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I wonder if farm automation would allow for a nomadic society. It doesn't even need to be fully automated. If I can make a machine that takes care of the watering, sunlight, and weeding, I can just rotate between microfarms throughout the country for harvesting, replanting, tilling, and other general maintenance. If they weren't so expensive, I could get one of those industrial grade robotic arms and use a controller or vr to do maintenance regularly. Maybe even set up a solar powered quad rotor with an fpv camera so I can inspect the whole property. If I went with hydroponics, that means even less moving parts. I can theoretically make a hydroponic fodder machine that grows the fodder on water canals and when they're done growing, just open the end of the canal and let the water push them out and into a trough so I can raise livestock. I'd just have to come back every now and then to replenish the fodder seeds, and check up on the machine and livestock.</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-829825168289300542 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=829825168289300542><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:08 PM">11:08 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>OwnerOfOwn — Today at 1:36 PM
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think of it as a smart garden
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its really not that complex of a system
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get 7 sensors, humidity, temp, UV range, PH, ORP (millivolt reading to better understand nutrient content)
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digitally controlled valve body for nutrient dispersal with a parasaltic pump, using one pump and the smart valve body you can switch which nutrient is dosed into the system.
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It would be fairly easy to develop/piggyback on someone's project a machine learning assisted vision program to look for things like high nitrogen, or bites out of the leaves, dead leaves. you just load in pictures of ailments and then the ML algorithm gives you a percent chance that the image it sees matches one of those ailments, once its 90% sure, it will send you a notification
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I was thinking of this recently
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30-60 cycle on crops
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throughout something like 100 trays
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by putting the trays on a conveyer, you could have one central bottom water tray, that as the tray passes through it gets fresh water,
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lights would be on the bottom of the trays
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underside
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to tightly pack the conveyor as much as possible</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-829825242943324201 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=829825242943324201><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:09 PM">11:09 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/unknown-0F4B5.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/unknown-0F4B5.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: unknown.png (127.26 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-829825302272278589 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=829825302272278589><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:09 PM">11:09 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Cyberpeasant44 — Today at 1:44 PM
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I think a sophisticated program for detecting stuff like that would be too much work, at least for now. Again, having an industrial sized robotic arm, with a camera attached to it, and have it travel along a rail system to get access to all plants seems like a much easier way to do things. No need to code as much since I can just use the arm manually to snip off bits, remove weeds, take readings, etc.</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-829825346495840266 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=829825346495840266><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:09 PM">11:09 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>OwnerOfOwn — Today at 1:44 PM
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GMO micro greens to have high vitamins, grow seeds with nice macros of protein and fats, some carb fiber
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its actually super easy
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a noob could do it in like 8 hours
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you would use existing tools like those on an nvidia jetson
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they have a whole training algorithm you just put in 200 photos of each ailment
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robot arms are good
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you would be able to service the trays from an array of stationary tools at each part of the rotation</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-829825403652145192 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=829825403652145192><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:09 PM">11:09 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Cyberpeasant44 — Today at 1:47 PM
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interesting
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OwnerOfOwn — Today at 1:48 PM
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you only need 100-200 sqft to grow enough calories for your needs
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so 1x2 pans would need 50 to 100 pans to grow enough microgreens to feed you
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Cyberpeasant44 — Today at 1:48 PM
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oh yeah, I'd definitely go vertical with it
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OwnerOfOwn — Today at 1:48 PM
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and you would just cycle them and they would all be at different stages of growth
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vertical is kinda limited, this is horizontal pans but on a belt
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Cyberpeasant44 — Today at 1:49 PM
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oh okay
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OwnerOfOwn — Today at 1:50 PM
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so yeah, basically harvest a hydroponic tray everyday, make a smoothie and drink 2 green machines a day when times get tough
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then spread these to every home in america
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and no american starve when the world collapses
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Cyberpeasant44 — Today at 1:50 PM
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I've seen conveyer belt style systems, where all the plants float down a spiral staircase of a single hydroponic water canal. The speed is timed so when they reach the bottom, they're ready for harvest.</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:16 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-829825793663303730 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=829825793663303730><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:11 PM">11:11 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>yes, per eric's request the channel is soil free agriculture now</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-829825850814758982 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=829825850814758982><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:11 PM">11:11 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>aquaponics has weird ethical stuff too</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-829825862236635167 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=829825862236635167><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:11 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-829825862236635167>4/8/2021 11:11 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>i need to add linkspam</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-829825882327089233 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=829825882327089233><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/086356a9411edc3f5b3a821d064c601f-94388.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=cyberpeasant44 data-user-id=316404978119868416>cyberpeasant44</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:11 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-829825882327089233>4/8/2021 11:11 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>what ethics?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-829825901294256168 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=829825901294256168><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:11 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-829825901294256168>4/8/2021 11:11 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>seaweed's bit on azollaponics is really neat</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-829825951600869413 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=829825951600869413><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/086356a9411edc3f5b3a821d064c601f-94388.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=cyberpeasant44 data-user-id=316404978119868416>cyberpeasant44</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:12 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-829825951600869413>4/8/2021 11:12 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>it's just using fish poop for nutrients right?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-829825983640240129 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=829825983640240129><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:12 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-829825983640240129>4/8/2021 11:12 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>fish are friends not food</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-829826027899322378 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=829826027899322378><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/086356a9411edc3f5b3a821d064c601f-94388.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=cyberpeasant44 data-user-id=316404978119868416>cyberpeasant44</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:12 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-829826027899322378>4/8/2021 11:12 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>oh</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-829826041152405524 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=829826041152405524><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:12 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-829826041152405524>4/8/2021 11:12 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><strong>s h a r k b a i t h o o haha</strong></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:12 PM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=fish><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=🐟 src=media-ose/1f41f-B501A.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-829826054818103296 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=829826054818103296><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:12 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-829826054818103296>4/8/2021 11:12 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I would love salmon farm but idk if I can commit to that 5 year thang</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-829826218559012914 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=829826218559012914><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:13 PM">11:13 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/unknown-22073.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/unknown-22073.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: unknown.png (110.93 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-829826261819588618 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=829826261819588618><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:13 PM">11:13 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>so when I think about it
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make the trays dump in one basin, then go through a dry loop for root analysis, then they hit the clean water basin, scooping up perfectly maintained nutrient water, while the dirty basin is filtered and recycled into the clean water basin
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I need to nail down the wattage it would take to grow 3000 calories a day</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-829826305784676388 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=829826305784676388><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/086356a9411edc3f5b3a821d064c601f-94388.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=cyberpeasant44 data-user-id=316404978119868416>cyberpeasant44</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:13 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-829826305784676388>4/8/2021 11:13 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>yeah I suppose keeping fish in a windowless tank their whole lives isn't healthy. What if you had a pond and just ran piping to and from it?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-829826324003553363 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=829826324003553363><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:13 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-829826324003553363>4/8/2021 11:13 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://youtu.be/SR5kefWuYuY">https://youtu.be/SR5kefWuYuY</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxjC_VVez3w8Uyh7LWPnkXA><div class=chatlog__embed-author>FOX 13 News Utah</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SR5kefWuYuY"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Tech Talk - Robotic Vertical Farming</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/SR5kefWuYuY width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-829826381134692413 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=829826381134692413><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><div class=chatlog__reply-unknown>Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.</div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:13 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-829826381134692413>4/8/2021 11:13 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>it is a battery, just the output is calories instead of electrons</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-829826435823829012 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=829826435823829012><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:13 PM">11:13 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>put electrons in, get calories out</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-829826444665815040 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=829826444665815040><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:14 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-829826444665815040>4/8/2021 11:14 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>i had a great series on this concept somewhere</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:14 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-829826568242069554 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=829826568242069554><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:14 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-829826568242069554>4/8/2021 11:14 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>tiem for advanced memory query</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-829826814963875840 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=829826814963875840><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:15 PM">11:15 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>OwnerOfOwn — Today at 1:53 PM
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to figure out the cost of solar panels/feasibility of a skylight with a light collector on the roof
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Cyberpeasant44 — Today at 1:54 PM
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yeah isn't the bottleneck of hydroponics how much power it uses?
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especially if you're using uv lamps
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OwnerOfOwn — Today at 1:54 PM
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yup
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matter cannot be created or destroyed
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or something
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Cyberpeasant44 — Today at 1:55 PM
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yeah that one
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rules of heat or whatever
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OwnerOfOwn — Today at 1:55 PM
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solar collectors are interesting
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Cyberpeasant44 — Today at 1:55 PM
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I've seen those, but are they efficient for small scale?
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OwnerOfOwn — Today at 1:55 PM
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I think you could have a crystal lattice structure on the roof to collect the light and then let it rip on the trays 6 hours a day
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idk yet
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need to do more research in the pv/collector stuff
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Cyberpeasant44 — Today at 1:56 PM
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If it was cheaper, I wonder if you can use fiber optics and connect them to the roof
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Like use fiber optics to funnel uv light to wherever you need like a pipe
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OwnerOfOwn — Today at 1:57 PM
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exactly that
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just with the lowest cost solution
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I've been thinking a lot of optically clear resin
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Cyberpeasant44 — Today at 1:58 PM
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why not translucent mirrors so you can redirect through multiple levels?
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OwnerOfOwn — Today at 1:59 PM
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assuming rammed earth building is automated, I could pour in epoxy windows and vibrate out the bubbles for like 6 inch thick bulletproof epoxy windows, if the same applied to filling a could hoses with epoxy and vibrating the bubbles out, thats quite cheap.
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yee, lots of one way "light valves"</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:16 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-829826880169312287 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=829826880169312287><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:15 PM">11:15 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Cyberpeasant44 — Today at 1:59 PM
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Actually it might be cheaper and more durable to make resin sheets that are impregnated with reflective bits, like glitter but stronger. You can actively control how much light passes and how much gets reflected.
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OwnerOfOwn — Today at 1:59 PM
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yee
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thats sick
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that's probably best
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maybe reflectors directly into the bottom of the tray, then the glitter does the work from there
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Cyberpeasant44 — Today at 2:00 PM
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hell, actually, you could make a solar tower, where the tower is just a cylindrical, vertical farm, and you just put mirrors all around it.
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that way you're maximizing the surface area of the walls
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OwnerOfOwn — Today at 2:01 PM
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yeah, climate control and expensive equipment outdoors
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Cyberpeasant44 — Today at 2:01 PM
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yeah coating the trays, rails, and literally everything with uv reflective paint or something would help too
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OwnerOfOwn — Today at 2:01 PM
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key part of this is like inside the kitchen cooking up calories
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stainless steel mirror polished
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Cyberpeasant44 — Today at 2:02 PM
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Well you could just build a cylindrical greenhouse with clear window walls, so just the plants are inside. The mirrors can stay outside.
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OwnerOfOwn — Today at 2:03 PM
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true
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interesting
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idk
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seems like more labor
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Cyberpeasant44 — Today at 2:04 PM
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well yeah
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OwnerOfOwn — Today at 2:04 PM
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I want to be able to collect a tray from a single place each day
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fully grown, 3000 calorie mat of roots, seeds, and green
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Cyberpeasant44 — Today at 2:05 PM
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just have it convey the trays directly to the kitchen
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harvest and cook right there, or pick it and place it in a fridge or root cellar
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also the nice thing about hydroponics is that it recycles like 95% of its water, so for being nomadic, just bring back a tank of water to replenish any losses due to evaporation
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that way you're not confined to set up shop wherever there's city water, a stream, or well</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-829827041716731964 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=829827041716731964><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:16 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-829827041716731964>4/8/2021 11:16 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLU8luVji9KQnFeNupPyvPyCO1E6px7eFA">https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLU8luVji9KQnFeNupPyvPyCO1E6px7eFA</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLU8luVji9KQnFeNupPyvPyCO1E6px7eFA"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Vertical Farming - Future or Fantasy</div></a></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/hqdefault-505A0.jpg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/hqdefault-505A0.jpg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-829827109781897226 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=829827109781897226><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:16 PM">11:16 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>main limit was power input needed</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-829827161233031178 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=829827161233031178><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:16 PM">11:16 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Also new strains may be needed as stuff is kinda backwards</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-829827285125300254 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=829827285125300254><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:17 PM">11:17 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Like with conventional crops you want one huge harvest</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-829827308231721010 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=829827308231721010><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:17 PM">11:17 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>and you want deep roots</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-829827378175541308 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=829827378175541308><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:17 PM">11:17 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>with soil-less agriculture you want as little roots as needed</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:17 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-829827435062362142 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=829827435062362142><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:17 PM">11:17 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>and as little stem as possible</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-829827505581064323 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=829827505581064323><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:18 PM">11:18 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>and lower yields may be fine if it "rapidly cycles"</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-829827605074018305 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=829827605074018305><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:18 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-829827605074018305>4/8/2021 11:18 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>yes, I'm hoping for a 3000 calorie tray of roots, seeds and greens</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-829827659806539786 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=829827659806539786><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:18 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-829827659806539786>4/8/2021 11:18 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>the neat thing though with plant factories is there is so much data/control that they are essentially giant labs</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:18 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-829827742920998965 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=829827742920998965><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:19 PM">11:19 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>cell culture meat will be the real winner</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-829827786826186802 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=829827786826186802><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:19 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-829827786826186802>4/8/2021 11:19 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>throw it in a blender and get drinking, at least as a supplement to other staple foods, this is hedging against food supply chain issues</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-829827884096815117 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=829827884096815117><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:19 PM">11:19 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>OwnerOfOwn — Today at 1:36 PM
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think of it as a smart garden
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its really not that complex of a system
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get 7 sensors:
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humidity, temp, UV range, PH, ORP (millivolt reading to better understand nutrient content)
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digitally controlled valve body for nutrient dispersal with a parasaltic pump, using one pump and the smart valve body you can switch which nutrient is dosed into the system.
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It would be fairly easy to develop/piggyback on someone's project a machine learning assisted vision program to look for things like high nitrogen, or bites out of the leaves, dead leaves. you just load in pictures of ailments and then the ML algorithm gives you a percent chance that the image it sees matches one of those ailments, once its 90% sure, it will send you a notification
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I was thinking of this recently
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30-60 cycle on crops
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throughout something like 100 trays</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:20 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-829828047778873364 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=829828047778873364><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:20 PM">11:20 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>ooh</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-829828075935891498 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=829828075935891498><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:20 PM">11:20 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>green slime for everyone</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-829828084810252308 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=829828084810252308><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:20 PM">11:20 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I'm down</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-829828143795535872 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=829828143795535872><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:20 PM">11:20 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>can get a perfect vitamin, mineral/nutrient profile</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-829828224661192795 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=829828224661192795><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:21 PM">11:21 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>nice</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-829828335349268481 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=829828335349268481><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/086356a9411edc3f5b3a821d064c601f-94388.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=cyberpeasant44 data-user-id=316404978119868416>cyberpeasant44</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:21 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-829828335349268481>4/8/2021 11:21 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>You know, I had an idea for attaching slabs of lab grown meat to the sides of boston dynamics robots, equipping them with intelligent AI, and just let them roam the countryside, that way I can fulfill my instinctive desire to hunt without killing actual animals.</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=eyes><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=👀 src=media-ose/1f440-6C64D.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-829828339689586756 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=829828339689586756><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:21 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-829828339689586756>4/8/2021 11:21 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>get 5 sensors:
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humidity,
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temp,
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UV range,
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PH,
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ORP (millivolt reading to better understand nutrient content)
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what else would you guys reccomend?</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-829828522524016660 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=829828522524016660><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:22 PM">11:22 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://gfi.org/">https://gfi.org/</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://gfi.org/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Plant-based and cultivated meat innovation | GFI</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">GFI is a 501(c)(3) nonprofit building a sustainable, secure, and just food system with alternative proteins like plant-based and cultivated meat.</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/GettyImages-918656764-lo-F6B6F.jpg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/GettyImages-918656764-lo-F6B6F.jpg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-829828646834405387 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=829828646834405387><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/086356a9411edc3f5b3a821d064c601f-94388.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=cyberpeasant44 data-user-id=316404978119868416>cyberpeasant44</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:22 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-829828646834405387>4/8/2021 11:22 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I still don't trust plant meat. Maybe in a few decades when they get everything right.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-829828664866373643 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=829828664866373643><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:22 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-829828664866373643>4/8/2021 11:22 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>i'm getting a bit lost, <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="ownerofown">@OwnerOfOwn</span> are you referencing that older bit or repeating it or what</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-829828735745523732 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=829828735745523732><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=ownerofown>OwnerOfOwn</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'829825110797189170')"> Cyberpeasant44 — Today at 1:16 PM
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I wonder if farm automation would allow for a nomadic society. It doesn't even need to be fully automated. If I can make a machine that takes care of the watering, sunlight, and weeding, I can just rotate between microfarms throughout the country for harvesting, replanting, tilling, and other general maintenance. If they weren't so expensive, I could get one of those industrial grade robotic arms and use a controller or vr to do maintenance regularly. Maybe even set up a solar powered quad rotor with an fpv camera so I can inspect the whole property. If I went with hydroponics, that means even less moving parts. I can theoretically make a hydroponic fodder machine that grows the fodder on water canals and when they're done growing, just open the end of the canal and let the water push them out and into a trough so I can raise livestock. I'd just have to come back every now and then to replenish the fodder seeds, and check up on the machine and livestock. </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:23 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-829828735745523732>4/8/2021 11:23 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>you can do this neat thing via the upper right bit of messages</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:23 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-829828747824857108 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=829828747824857108><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:23 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-829828747824857108>4/8/2021 11:23 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>what would the ideal sensor suite be for growing hydroponics?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-829828868222222376 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=829828868222222376><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:23 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-829828868222222376>4/8/2021 11:23 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I could maybe make a channel for engineered meat substitutes / cell culture meat</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-829829027057369170 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=829829027057369170><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:24 PM">11:24 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>that too</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-829829055204294686 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=829829055204294686><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/086356a9411edc3f5b3a821d064c601f-94388.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=cyberpeasant44 data-user-id=316404978119868416>cyberpeasant44</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:24 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-829829055204294686>4/8/2021 11:24 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>high estrogen levels</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-829829089749499965 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=829829089749499965><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:24 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-829829089749499965>4/8/2021 11:24 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>xenoestrogens are a myth</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-829829138474991696 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=829829138474991696><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:24 PM">11:24 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>(sadly to many trans girls/enbies lol)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-829829226786062397 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=829829226786062397><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/086356a9411edc3f5b3a821d064c601f-94388.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=cyberpeasant44 data-user-id=316404978119868416>cyberpeasant44</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:25 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-829829226786062397>4/8/2021 11:25 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>idk man, I've heard both and I don't know who to trust</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-829829321551511583 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=829829321551511583><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:25 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-829829321551511583>4/8/2021 11:25 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>i had some meta analysis somewhere, although i think that whole rant may be better for another channel</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-829829389532921856 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=829829389532921856><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:25 PM">11:25 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>i'll put it in <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention">#off-topic</span> i guess idk</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-829829441009483826 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=829829441009483826><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:25 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-829829441009483826>4/8/2021 11:25 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>feel free to discuss it here</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-829829473541161050 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=829829473541161050><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:26 PM">11:26 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>agriculture without soil</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-829829488207724634 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=829829488207724634><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:26 PM">11:26 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>marginally on topic</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-829829685688139827 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=829829685688139827><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:26 PM">11:26 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>rest well m8</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-829829802285334528 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=829829802285334528><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:27 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-829829802285334528>4/8/2021 11:27 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I think a sensor module would be a good project</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-829829858422292532 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=829829858422292532><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:27 PM">11:27 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>That and one for soil (also had an idea for an air quality/data one)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-829829930640343050 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=829829930640343050><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:27 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-829829930640343050>4/8/2021 11:27 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>ooh CO2 ppm sensor too</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-829830369820934194 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=829830369820934194><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:29 PM">11:29 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>yeah, I have a fair bit of plant growing experience, know what to look for, anything big I am missing?</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-829830565163040789 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=829830565163040789><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:30 PM">11:30 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>sensor list bump:
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CO2 ppm sensor
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humidity
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temp
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ORP( oxidation reduction potential, millivolt reading will give lots of data)</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:31 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-829830671584854027 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=829830671584854027><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:30 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-829830671584854027>4/8/2021 11:30 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>the nutrient bit for the solution gets odd i guess</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:30 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-829834058270900224 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=829834058270900224><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:44 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-829834058270900224>4/8/2021 11:44 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://www.aquashieldcontrol.com/">https://www.aquashieldcontrol.com/</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.aquashieldcontrol.com/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Main Page - AquaShield Control</div></a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-829834077049716746 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=829834077049716746><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:44 PM">11:44 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>found this group</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-829834106803978251 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=829834106803978251><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:44 PM">11:44 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>good industry standard i guess</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:44 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-829834207807143947 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=829834207807143947><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:44 PM">11:44 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>they have this youtube channel, but thar be kickstarter music! Ye be warned...</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-829834253918928946 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=829834253918928946><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, April 8, 2021 11:45 PM">11:45 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://www.youtube.com/c/AquaShieldAquaponics/videos">https://www.youtube.com/c/AquaShieldAquaponics/videos</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.youtube.com/c/AquaShieldAquaponics/videos><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">AquaShield Aquaponics</div></a></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/AAUvwngm0kHfJ6X4bm8yOfFtIoUAbTozE3qwulBFYD-90075> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/AAUvwngm0kHfJ6X4bm8yOfFtIoUAbTozE3qwulBFYD-90075 alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-835959410215616532 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=835959410215616532><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, April 25, 2021 9:24 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-835959410215616532>4/25/2021 9:24 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="matthew.v.greene">@Matthew.V.Greene</span></span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-835959600007610368 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=835959600007610368><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/e48fb607884b0e0704baa95a6bebe386-B69B0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=matthew.v.greene data-user-id=375450061611597844>Matthew.V.Greene</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, April 25, 2021 9:25 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-835959600007610368>4/25/2021 9:25 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Ooohhhhh neat!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-836750542285570079 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=836750542285570079><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, April 28, 2021 1:47 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-836750542285570079>4/28/2021 1:47 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2em0Q3HlyuI">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2em0Q3HlyuI</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0RQHXbdN4mvQSznPQ5hLhA><div class=chatlog__embed-author>matou makes</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2em0Q3HlyuI"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Making a better 3D printed hydroponics system</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/2em0Q3HlyuI width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-837175156367556628 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=837175156367556628><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, April 29, 2021 5:55 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-837175156367556628>4/29/2021 5:55 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://youtu.be/1Cvcf_VNCDg">https://youtu.be/1Cvcf_VNCDg</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyv4OYLskCjLFerg1TONJGQ><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Peter van de Pol</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Cvcf_VNCDg"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">DIY Solar collector and storage for my greenhouse</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/1Cvcf_VNCDg width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-837175270200049695 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=837175270200049695><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, April 29, 2021 5:55 AM">5:55 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>no pump, apparently the happy pixies move the water for you</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-837175418188595200 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=837175418188595200><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, April 29, 2021 5:56 AM">5:56 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://youtu.be/pHk0PX8pbWY?t=690">https://youtu.be/pHk0PX8pbWY?t=690</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCoVt9WOZcTYadXM64jQLfjw><div class=chatlog__embed-author>desertsun02</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHk0PX8pbWY&start=690"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Solar Air Heater! - The "Screen Absorber" Solar Air Heater! - Easy ...</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/pHk0PX8pbWY width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-837175827795148831 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=837175827795148831><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, April 29, 2021 5:57 AM">5:57 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>these systems seem truly powerful for winter, of course you will need to supplement some heat into the system which you could use geothermal heat pump loop or grid/battery power, at night or during cloudy/stormy weeks. But this could propose a really efficient greenhouse in tundra-type biomes</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Thursday, April 29, 2021 6:02 AM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-837175983894560799 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=837175983894560799><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, April 29, 2021 5:58 AM">5:58 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://youtu.be/Sc78nueDQ64">https://youtu.be/Sc78nueDQ64</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCoVt9WOZcTYadXM64jQLfjw><div class=chatlog__embed-author>desertsun02</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sc78nueDQ64"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">DIY "PEX COIL" Solar Water Heater! - High temps! - No crimping! - S...</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/Sc78nueDQ64 width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-858419276117180466 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=858419276117180466><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a67349d5204fa45d8d75ef87bae8aef7-C25C9.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=osrsupport6829 data-user-id=788915694997209123>-- osr-support --</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, June 26, 2021 8:51 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-858419276117180466>6/26/2021 8:51 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>just found this channel, 'soil free' - really ? this sounds hilarious - all in top of new generations entirely loosing mind on their phones or worst, their feets - on the ground <img
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src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=smile><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=😄 src=media-ose/1f604-BF863.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-859125915509063690 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=859125915509063690><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, June 28, 2021 7:39 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-859125915509063690>6/28/2021 7:39 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>It's land use</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-859126000628924416 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=859126000628924416><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, June 28, 2021 7:40 PM">7:40 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>you can have a farm taking up large swaths of land, or one skyscraper</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-859126076601401355 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=859126076601401355><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, June 28, 2021 7:40 PM">7:40 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>...and all that agricultural land could be rewilded with <em>nature trails</em></span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-859136106016931900 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=859136106016931900><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/7ae59e77433a1eb8baae44b1e29c212a-6602D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/a67349d5204fa45d8d75ef87bae8aef7-C25C9.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=osrsupport6829>-- osr-support --</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'858419276117180466')"> just found this channel, 'soil free' - really ? this sounds hilarious - all in top of new generations entirely loosing mind on their phones or worst, their feets - on the ground <img
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src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=wesxdz data-user-id=230472437265989635>Wesxdz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, June 28, 2021 8:20 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-859136106016931900>6/28/2021 8:20 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Revolution">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Revolution</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Revolution><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Green Revolution</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">The Green Revolution, or the Third Agricultural Revolution, is the set of research technology transfer initiatives occurring between 1950 and the late 1960s, that increased agricultural production in parts of the world, beginning most markedly in the late 1960s. The initiatives resulted in the adoption of new technologies, including high-yieldin...</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/Cropduster_spraying_pesticides-9C42D.jpg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/Cropduster_spraying_pesticides-9C42D.jpg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-859136272421355572 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=859136272421355572><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, June 28, 2021 8:20 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-859136272421355572>6/28/2021 8:20 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>wen 4th?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-859136366742863934 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=859136366742863934><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/7ae59e77433a1eb8baae44b1e29c212a-6602D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=wesxdz data-user-id=230472437265989635>Wesxdz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, June 28, 2021 8:21 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-859136366742863934>6/28/2021 8:21 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I'm uncertain if the green revolution is a positive or negative thing. It seems to have dramatically increased crop yields everywhere but Africa with less severe downsides (ie pesticides less harmful than famine)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-859136385003945985 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=859136385003945985><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/7ae59e77433a1eb8baae44b1e29c212a-6602D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=ownerofown>OwnerOfOwn</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'859136272421355572')"> wen 4th? </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=wesxdz data-user-id=230472437265989635>Wesxdz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, June 28, 2021 8:21 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-859136385003945985>6/28/2021 8:21 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>??</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-859137052095545354 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=859137052095545354><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, June 28, 2021 8:23 PM">8:23 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I do like the idea of nature trails, maybe nobody wants to live in rural Kansas anymore because it's all mechanized farmland</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-859137268480213033 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=859137268480213033><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, June 28, 2021 8:24 PM">8:24 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I think the centralization of land ownership for large scale agriculture is not good for workers but benefits consumers so</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-859154381748305971 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=859154381748305971><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, June 28, 2021 9:32 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-859154381748305971>6/28/2021 9:32 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>It's a mess that this may help work out. Kind of how like hunter gatherer -> farmer initially led to malnutrition, but added food security but now we have both</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-859154742268526623 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=859154742268526623><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, June 28, 2021 9:34 PM">9:34 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Post-Plant Factory / Vertical Farming / Whatever term you use,
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There would be little/no pesticides/fertilizers, high food security, high food diversity, as well as none of the geopolitical/human rights mess (banana republics etc)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-859154900594982962 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=859154900594982962><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, June 28, 2021 9:34 PM">9:34 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><s>granted the unemployment that could result is a whole other issue</s></span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-862177879952195604 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=862177879952195604><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, July 7, 2021 5:47 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-862177879952195604>7/7/2021 5:47 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://hackaday.com/2021/05/14/automated-watering-machine-has-what-plants-crave-fertilizer/">https://hackaday.com/2021/05/14/automated-watering-machine-has-what-plants-crave-fertilizer/</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(26,26,26,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href="https://hackaday.com/author/cornbreadninja/"><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Kristina Panos</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://hackaday.com/2021/05/14/automated-watering-machine-has-what-plants-crave-fertilizer/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Automated Watering Machine Has What Plants Crave: Fertilizer</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">We’ve seen countless automated plant care systems over the years, but for some reason they almost never involve the secret sauce of gardening — fertilizer. But [xythobuz] knows what&#82…</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/plant-machine-800-A39F3.jpg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/plant-machine-800-A39F3.jpg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-862177969349722128 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=862177969349722128><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, July 7, 2021 5:47 AM">5:47 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>another existing open source design i had buried in my phone tabs</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-862416842681221139 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=862416842681221139><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, July 7, 2021 9:36 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-862416842681221139>7/7/2021 9:36 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqQ02_rEGxg">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqQ02_rEGxg</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCglOtoGILgG7bT3DbA6HA8w><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Greens and Machines</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqQ02_rEGxg"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">DIY Hydroponic Propagation Container | NFT 72</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/KqQ02_rEGxg width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-867887181032849448 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867887181032849448><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 11:53 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-867887181032849448>7/22/2021 11:53 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/sci-tech/lab-developed-chocolate-passes-the-taste-test-/46766404">https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/sci-tech/lab-developed-chocolate-passes-the-taste-test-/46766404</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/sci-tech/lab-developed-chocolate-passes-the-taste-test-/46766404><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Lab-developed chocolate passes the taste test</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">The chocolate of the future could come from the bio-reactor, if the work of a Swiss team is anything to go by.</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/chocolate_zhaw_ret-F5F91.jpg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/chocolate_zhaw_ret-F5F91.jpg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-868559650797277205 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=868559650797277205><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5f2e719a9dac42a723b1b51646b8a4b4-F9D26.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/a67349d5204fa45d8d75ef87bae8aef7-C25C9.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=osrsupport6829>-- osr-support --</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'858419276117180466')"> just found this channel, 'soil free' - really ? this sounds hilarious - all in top of new generations entirely loosing mind on their phones or worst, their feets - on the ground <img
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src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=life_long_learner data-user-id=827415572111032350>Paul P.</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, July 24, 2021 8:25 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-868559650797277205>7/24/2021 8:25 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I’m more interested in regenerating soil than being soil free, but <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="wesxdz">@Wesxdz</span> brought up good points:
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Indoor hydroponics don’t suffer from insect pests and weeds as much, because you have more control via e.g. netting, plus more efficient use of vertical space and less tubing needed for automatic watering.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-868581042846576691 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=868581042846576691><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5f2e719a9dac42a723b1b51646b8a4b4-F9D26.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=life_long_learner data-user-id=827415572111032350>Paul P.</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, July 24, 2021 9:50 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-868581042846576691>7/24/2021 9:50 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="wesxdz">@Wesxdz</span> Other greenhouse farmers, I’d like to get multiple of these valves to control each “circuit” of plant watering <a href="https://www.adafruit.com/product/997">https://www.adafruit.com/product/997</a>
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Driven by 0 or 12V from a high voltage relay board, driven by Arduino</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.adafruit.com/product/997><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Plastic Water Solenoid Valve - 12V - 1/2" Nominal</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Control the flow of fluid using the flow of electrons! This liquid valve would make a great addition to your robotic gardening project. There are two 1/2" (Nominal non-taped National ...</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/997-04-78550.jpg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/997-04-78550.jpg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-868585881898995802 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=868585881898995802><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5f2e719a9dac42a723b1b51646b8a4b4-F9D26.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze>Eric Lotze</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'862177879952195604')"> <a href="https://hackaday.com/2021/05/14/automated-watering-machine-has-what-plants-crave-fertilizer/">https://hackaday.com/2021/05/14/automated-watering-machine-has-what-plants-crave-fertilizer/</a> </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=life_long_learner data-user-id=827415572111032350>Paul P.</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, July 24, 2021 10:10 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-868585881898995802>7/24/2021 10:10 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Using an 8 channel version of the relay board from this design, thanks <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="ericlotze">@Eric Lotze</span></span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-868682194456051752 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=868682194456051752><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/7ae59e77433a1eb8baae44b1e29c212a-6602D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/5f2e719a9dac42a723b1b51646b8a4b4-F9D26.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=life_long_learner>Paul P.</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'868581042846576691')"> <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="wesxdz">@Wesxdz</span> Other greenhouse farmers, I’d like to get multiple of these valves to control each “circuit” of plant watering <a href="https://www.adafruit.com/product/997">https://www.adafruit.com/product/997</a>
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Driven by 0 or 12V from a high voltage relay board, driven by Arduino </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=wesxdz data-user-id=230472437265989635>Wesxdz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, July 25, 2021 4:32 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-868682194456051752>7/25/2021 4:32 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>lol I was lookin at this exact valve earlier</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-868682371845718017 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=868682371845718017><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/7ae59e77433a1eb8baae44b1e29c212a-6602D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/5f2e719a9dac42a723b1b51646b8a4b4-F9D26.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=life_long_learner>Paul P.</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'868581042846576691')"> <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="wesxdz">@Wesxdz</span> Other greenhouse farmers, I’d like to get multiple of these valves to control each “circuit” of plant watering <a href="https://www.adafruit.com/product/997">https://www.adafruit.com/product/997</a>
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Driven by 0 or 12V from a high voltage relay board, driven by Arduino </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=wesxdz data-user-id=230472437265989635>Wesxdz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, July 25, 2021 4:33 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-868682371845718017>7/25/2021 4:33 AM</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><video class=chatlog__embed-generic-gifv width=602 height=640 loop onmouseover=this.play() onmouseout=this.pause()><source src=media-ose/mp4-AB8CC alt="Embedded gifv"></video></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-868689197320515614 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=868689197320515614><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/2c298b90ec031a6c231d3fe0841eff38-C0EC3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/5f2e719a9dac42a723b1b51646b8a4b4-F9D26.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=life_long_learner>Paul P.</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'868585881898995802')"> Using an 8 channel version of the relay board from this design, thanks <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="ericlotze">@Eric Lotze</span> </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=cryptogothslowdao8302 data-user-id=756755259355037766>Paul Pham</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, July 25, 2021 5:00 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-868689197320515614>7/25/2021 5:00 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://www.amazon.com/ELEGOO-Channel-Optocoupler-Arduino-Raspberry/dp/B01HCFJC0Y/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8">https://www.amazon.com/ELEGOO-Channel-Optocoupler-Arduino-Raspberry/dp/B01HCFJC0Y/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(35,47,62,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.amazon.com/ELEGOO-Channel-Optocoupler-Arduino-Raspberry/dp/B01HCFJC0Y/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">ELEGOO 8 Channel DC 5V Relay Module with Optocoupler Compatible wit...</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">ELEGOO 8 Channel DC 5V Relay Module with Optocoupler Compatible with Arduino UNO R3 MEGA 1280 DSP ARM PIC AVR STM32 Raspberry Pi</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/51SYIKCMqvL._SR600%252c315_PIWhiteStrip%25-9548F.jpg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/51SYIKCMqvL._SR600%252c315_PIWhiteStrip%25-9548F.jpg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-868701254052872272 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=868701254052872272><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/7ae59e77433a1eb8baae44b1e29c212a-6602D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/2c298b90ec031a6c231d3fe0841eff38-C0EC3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=cryptogothslowdao8302>Paul Pham</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'868689197320515614')"> <a href="https://www.amazon.com/ELEGOO-Channel-Optocoupler-Arduino-Raspberry/dp/B01HCFJC0Y/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8">https://www.amazon.com/ELEGOO-Channel-Optocoupler-Arduino-Raspberry/dp/B01HCFJC0Y/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8</a> </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=wesxdz data-user-id=230472437265989635>Wesxdz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, July 25, 2021 5:48 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-868701254052872272>7/25/2021 5:48 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Elegoo makes amazing printers I want a mars 2</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-868989792057192448 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=868989792057192448><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a67349d5204fa45d8d75ef87bae8aef7-C25C9.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/5f2e719a9dac42a723b1b51646b8a4b4-F9D26.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=life_long_learner>Paul P.</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'868559650797277205')"> I’m more interested in regenerating soil than being soil free, but <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="wesxdz">@Wesxdz</span> brought up good points:
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Indoor hydroponics don’t suffer from insect pests and weeds as much, because you have more control via e.g. netting, plus more efficient use of vertical space and less tubing needed for automatic watering. </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=osrsupport6829 data-user-id=788915694997209123>-- osr-support --</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, July 26, 2021 12:55 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-868989792057192448>7/26/2021 12:55 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Good point, still - kinda prefer food which grew in an 'natural environment' (what's left of it); for same reason it's probably incredible difficult (and expensive )to have an indoor salt water aquarium.
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I am doing garden my self and it's coming out way more delicious than any supermarket or near by 'farmer' stuff <img
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src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> - had to get 3 tons of soil since ours was polluted by construction waste - common practice during building construction here in Spain ...</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-868989923615703061 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=868989923615703061><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, July 26, 2021 12:55 AM">12:55 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>there is another discord server about : <a href="https://discord.gg/yVNP5rHNBm">https://discord.gg/yVNP5rHNBm</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-invite-container><div class=chatlog__embed-invite-title>Invite to join a server</div><div class=chatlog__embed-invite><div class=chatlog__embed-invite-guild-icon-container><img class=chatlog__embed-invite-guild-icon src=media-ose/8ef8a32cd577235c6546c91b7ad1502f-C3BBD.png alt="Guild icon" loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__embed-invite-info><div class=chatlog__embed-invite-guild-name><a href=https://discord.gg/yVNP5rHNBm> Hectar Open Source </a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-invite-channel-name><svg class=chatlog__embed-invite-channel-icon><use href=#channel-icon></use></svg> <span> welcome-and-rules</span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-869015101674508329 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=869015101674508329><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/a67349d5204fa45d8d75ef87bae8aef7-C25C9.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=osrsupport6829>-- osr-support --</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'868989792057192448')"> Good point, still - kinda prefer food which grew in an 'natural environment' (what's left of it); for same reason it's probably incredible difficult (and expensive )to have an indoor salt water aquarium.
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I am doing garden my self and it's coming out way more delicious than any supermarket or near by 'farmer' stuff <img
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src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> - had to get 3 tons of soil since ours was polluted by construction waste - common practice during building construction here in Spain ... </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, July 26, 2021 2:35 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-869015101674508329>7/26/2021 2:35 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>granted "natural" is kind of a myth, especially with domesticated plants. Also current agricultural methods aren't sustainable/easy, and climate change's impacts will only make that worse. As well as many countries developing which means eating "staple crops" -> complex diets, many of which are fragile fruits/vegtables etc</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-869015607331418152 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=869015607331418152><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, July 26, 2021 2:37 AM">2:37 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Also it isn't too complex especially since it is so controlled. (ie you can get close to "spherical cows in a vacuum", not many unknowns/factors at play) The only real cost would be up front investment, and energy, although given PV solar's cheapness and almost excess of energy at times i could see it being viable</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-869015840710885426 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=869015840710885426><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, July 26, 2021 2:38 AM">2:38 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>IIRC it is already viable for leafy greens and some other things where freshness is key</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-869017628079976448 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=869017628079976448><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, July 26, 2021 2:45 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-869017628079976448>7/26/2021 2:45 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>as a consumer of a certain type of good that has been grown in soil vs grown hydroponically, I can't tell the difference. I love the romantism about soil and soil health, and soil conditioning. Fact is a 500 gallon water system is easier to condition than 5000lbs of soil.
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To Eric's point, Hydroponics/media-based systems have more automation potential, and ultimately could be far more sustainable.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-869018878347444224 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=869018878347444224><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a67349d5204fa45d8d75ef87bae8aef7-C25C9.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=osrsupport6829 data-user-id=788915694997209123>-- osr-support --</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, July 26, 2021 2:50 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-869018878347444224>7/26/2021 2:50 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>But from where you get the good soil then ? It comes usually from within good connections with the surrounding nature and not some lab crap <img
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There have been a few good documentaries about soil creation and recovery; another reason to move to the mountains <img
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src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-869019704008790088 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=869019704008790088><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, July 26, 2021 2:54 AM">2:54 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>you know, nature developed over millions of years - we're part of it - literally created from - I don't think we can change the rules so easily - possibly the reason why we gonna fail for good because some psychopaths think they 'can change nature' within 100 years just - lol</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-869020100441817178 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=869020100441817178><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, July 26, 2021 2:55 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-869020100441817178>7/26/2021 2:55 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I think you are vitally mis-understanding the purpose of this channel</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-869020185137389628 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=869020185137389628><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a67349d5204fa45d8d75ef87bae8aef7-C25C9.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=osrsupport6829 data-user-id=788915694997209123>-- osr-support --</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, July 26, 2021 2:55 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-869020185137389628>7/26/2021 2:55 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Possibly on purpose <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-869020279379214406 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=869020279379214406><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, July 26, 2021 2:56 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-869020279379214406>7/26/2021 2:56 AM</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><video class=chatlog__embed-generic-gifv width=640 height=640 loop onmouseover=this.play() onmouseout=this.pause()><source src=media-ose/mp4-28970 alt="Embedded gifv"></video></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-869020653989298226 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=869020653989298226><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a67349d5204fa45d8d75ef87bae8aef7-C25C9.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=osrsupport6829 data-user-id=788915694997209123>-- osr-support --</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, July 26, 2021 2:57 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-869020653989298226>7/26/2021 2:57 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Anyway - keep moving - really interested to see the outcome of this channel; there are possibly up to millions starving to death the next decades - not sure what crisis hits next but water and soil is long overdue - yeah</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-869020739364343818 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=869020739364343818><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, July 26, 2021 2:58 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-869020739364343818>7/26/2021 2:58 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>humans could just get food from a bunch of automated tunnels and all that farmland could go back to the ecosystem</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-869020767411642378 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=869020767411642378><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a67349d5204fa45d8d75ef87bae8aef7-C25C9.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=osrsupport6829 data-user-id=788915694997209123>-- osr-support --</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, July 26, 2021 2:58 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-869020767411642378>7/26/2021 2:58 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I heard China is running out of ground water the next 10 - 20 years ...</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Monday, July 26, 2021 2:58 AM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-869020835116122122 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=869020835116122122><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, July 26, 2021 2:58 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-869020835116122122>7/26/2021 2:58 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>good</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-869020860055453716 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=869020860055453716><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a67349d5204fa45d8d75ef87bae8aef7-C25C9.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=osrsupport6829 data-user-id=788915694997209123>-- osr-support --</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, July 26, 2021 2:58 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-869020860055453716>7/26/2021 2:58 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-869020864614629437 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=869020864614629437><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, July 26, 2021 2:58 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-869020864614629437>7/26/2021 2:58 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>hope it's sooner</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-869020991358124052 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=869020991358124052><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a67349d5204fa45d8d75ef87bae8aef7-C25C9.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=osrsupport6829 data-user-id=788915694997209123>-- osr-support --</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, July 26, 2021 2:59 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-869020991358124052>7/26/2021 2:59 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I think you mis-understood the purpose of this channel <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-869021027546562600 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=869021027546562600><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, July 26, 2021 2:59 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-869021027546562600>7/26/2021 2:59 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>1.1 billion people figuring out how to sustainable recharge water tables sounds too good to be true</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-869021100632322058 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=869021100632322058><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, July 26, 2021 2:59 AM">2:59 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>o wait</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-869021142541807686 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=869021142541807686><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, July 26, 2021 2:59 AM">2:59 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>they just go conquer more water tables</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-869021162368282684 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=869021162368282684><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, July 26, 2021 2:59 AM">2:59 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>forgot about that</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-869021490492887082 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=869021490492887082><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/a67349d5204fa45d8d75ef87bae8aef7-C25C9.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=osrsupport6829>-- osr-support --</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'869020653989298226')"> Anyway - keep moving - really interested to see the outcome of this channel; there are possibly up to millions starving to death the next decades - not sure what crisis hits next but water and soil is long overdue - yeah </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, July 26, 2021 3:01 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-869021490492887082>7/26/2021 3:01 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>this was the founding thesis behind this channel, that millions are subject to starvation with just a few simple hiccups in the modern supply chain or any number of world events</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-869021811432632443 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=869021811432632443><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a67349d5204fa45d8d75ef87bae8aef7-C25C9.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=osrsupport6829 data-user-id=788915694997209123>-- osr-support --</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, July 26, 2021 3:02 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-869021811432632443>7/26/2021 3:02 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I think this goes a little beyond that - if China fails - we're all screwed dude</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-869022010188128327 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=869022010188128327><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, July 26, 2021 3:03 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-869022010188128327>7/26/2021 3:03 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Automated and decentralized hydroponics could be a path forward with the right source of light, wether thats fiber-opticish reflectors or solar-powered LEDs.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-869022097496756244 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=869022097496756244><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a67349d5204fa45d8d75ef87bae8aef7-C25C9.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=osrsupport6829 data-user-id=788915694997209123>-- osr-support --</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, July 26, 2021 3:03 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-869022097496756244>7/26/2021 3:03 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>great - more artificial crap !</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-869022114060054568 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=869022114060054568><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, July 26, 2021 3:03 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-869022114060054568>7/26/2021 3:03 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>and yeah, it seems like india and china are responsible for everything in the modern world from a labor perspective</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Monday, July 26, 2021 3:03 AM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-869022209564360754 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=869022209564360754><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, July 26, 2021 3:04 AM">3:04 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>spelling labor like laber</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-869022241227153439 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=869022241227153439><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, July 26, 2021 3:04 AM">3:04 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I'm sleeping</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-869023413266677770 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=869023413266677770><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a67349d5204fa45d8d75ef87bae8aef7-C25C9.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=osrsupport6829 data-user-id=788915694997209123>-- osr-support --</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, July 26, 2021 3:08 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-869023413266677770>7/26/2021 3:08 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>in your dreams maybe - til then, we still have to bridge perhaps 20 - 30 years - if the atmosphere is still there <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-869051694208671814 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=869051694208671814><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5f2e719a9dac42a723b1b51646b8a4b4-F9D26.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/a67349d5204fa45d8d75ef87bae8aef7-C25C9.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=osrsupport6829>-- osr-support --</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'868989792057192448')"> Good point, still - kinda prefer food which grew in an 'natural environment' (what's left of it); for same reason it's probably incredible difficult (and expensive )to have an indoor salt water aquarium.
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I am doing garden my self and it's coming out way more delicious than any supermarket or near by 'farmer' stuff <img
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src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> - had to get 3 tons of soil since ours was polluted by construction waste - common practice during building construction here in Spain ... </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=life_long_learner data-user-id=827415572111032350>Paul P.</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, July 26, 2021 5:01 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-869051694208671814>7/26/2021 5:01 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I have friends in Catalonia who are working on an eco village called Aldea. Perhaps you know it?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-869052001273671680 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=869052001273671680><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5f2e719a9dac42a723b1b51646b8a4b4-F9D26.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=ownerofown>OwnerOfOwn</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'869021027546562600')"> 1.1 billion people figuring out how to sustainable recharge water tables sounds too good to be true </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=life_long_learner data-user-id=827415572111032350>Paul P.</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, July 26, 2021 5:02 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-869052001273671680>7/26/2021 5:02 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>This is my dream, how to call the rains with planting forests in a virtuous cycle .</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-869103085182660648 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=869103085182660648><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5f2e719a9dac42a723b1b51646b8a4b4-F9D26.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/2c298b90ec031a6c231d3fe0841eff38-C0EC3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=cryptogothslowdao8302>Paul Pham</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'868689197320515614')"> <a href="https://www.amazon.com/ELEGOO-Channel-Optocoupler-Arduino-Raspberry/dp/B01HCFJC0Y/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8">https://www.amazon.com/ELEGOO-Channel-Optocoupler-Arduino-Raspberry/dp/B01HCFJC0Y/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8</a> </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=life_long_learner data-user-id=827415572111032350>Paul P.</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, July 26, 2021 8:25 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-869103085182660648>7/26/2021 8:25 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>These relays and the Adafruit valves (8x) will arrive around Thursday the 29th. That will give us some time to figure the hoses, fittings, wiring, tanks, etc. you know <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="wesxdz">@Wesxdz</span> the easy stuff <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-878808252320727040 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=878808252320727040><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, August 22, 2021 3:10 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-878808252320727040>8/22/2021 3:10 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:32963/comments">https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:32963/comments</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(36,139,251,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:32963/comments><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Venturi effect cnc mist nozzle by robosavvy</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">This was designed to go on the end of segmented hose to spray a mix of air and liquid lubrication for use in a cnc machine.
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A tube connects the nozzle to a container with the lubricant. The flow of air (tested at 3bar) draws in the fluid trough the tube and mixes it with air. The tube entrance is tapered to accept tubes from 3 to 6mm. (1/8 to 1/...</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/8116100421_4af70f4e02_o_preview_featured-3CD09.jpg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/8116100421_4af70f4e02_o_preview_featured-3CD09.jpg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-878808305873616927 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=878808305873616927><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, August 22, 2021 3:10 AM">3:10 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Not sure if this is up to spec</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-878808588884254720 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=878808588884254720><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, August 22, 2021 3:11 AM">3:11 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spray_nozzle#Two-fluid_nozzles">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spray_nozzle#Two-fluid_nozzles</a></span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-878808767767130132 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=878808767767130132><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, August 22, 2021 3:12 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-878808767767130132>8/22/2021 3:12 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>3 bar is a lot for spritzers, am I missing a VC or something</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-878813785333317663 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=878813785333317663><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, August 22, 2021 3:32 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-878813785333317663>8/22/2021 3:32 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Nah just my thinking lol</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-878813849392910346 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=878813849392910346><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, August 22, 2021 3:32 AM">3:32 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I was thinking about aeroponics/"fogoponics"</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-878813967429029939 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=878813967429029939><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, August 22, 2021 3:32 AM">3:32 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>one of the big issues is mineralization clogging nozzles/the need for those high pressure pumps etc</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-878814090565390426 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=878814090565390426><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, August 22, 2021 3:33 AM">3:33 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I don't know if ultrasonic transducers get clogged/break down long term, but if not they may be a good option too</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-878814257024745512 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=878814257024745512><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, August 22, 2021 3:34 AM">3:34 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>But with the compressed air venturi based system, you just need a compressed air line, and these</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-878814407419912192 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=878814407419912192><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, August 22, 2021 3:34 AM">3:34 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>this may just me not realizing something / not having enough data, but i would assume the fouling/mineralization would be less in a venturi based system?</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Sunday, August 22, 2021 3:34 AM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-878814485765296218 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=878814485765296218><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, August 22, 2021 3:35 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-878814485765296218>8/22/2021 3:35 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>yeah, compressed air is notoriously energy expensive, but I would be interested to see if a large/multistage parasaltic pump could do it with a small enough nozzle</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-878814810572218368 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=878814810572218368><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze>Eric Lotze</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'878814407419912192')"> this may just me not realizing something / not having enough data, but i would assume the fouling/mineralization would be less in a venturi based system? </span> <span class=chatlog__reply-edited-timestamp title="Sunday, August 22, 2021 3:34 AM">(edited)</span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, August 22, 2021 3:36 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-878814810572218368>8/22/2021 3:36 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>the scaling/mineral build up would likely be the same. this is my first time hearing of aeroponics/fogoponics</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-878814893892071454 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=878814893892071454><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, August 22, 2021 3:36 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-878814893892071454>8/22/2021 3:36 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeroponics">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeroponics</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeroponics><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Aeroponics</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Aeroponics is the process of growing plants in an air or mist environment without the use of soil or an aggregate medium. The word "aeroponic" is derived from the Greek meanings of aer (ἀήρ, "air") and ponos (πόνος, "labour"). Aeroponic culture differs from both conventional hydroponics, aquaponics, and in-vitro (plant tissue culture) growing. ...</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/NASA-Aeroponics_International-lettuce-day3-0F987.jpg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/NASA-Aeroponics_International-lettuce-day3-0F987.jpg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=grey_marcin><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=grey_marcin src=media-ose/870861870691668008-8743D.png loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-878814905229258752 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=878814905229258752><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, August 22, 2021 3:36 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-878814905229258752>8/22/2021 3:36 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Hard water seems to ruin a lot of sensitive things</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-878814924338524221 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=878814924338524221><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, August 22, 2021 3:36 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-878814924338524221>8/22/2021 3:36 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>yep</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-878815027447087215 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=878815027447087215><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, August 22, 2021 3:37 AM">3:37 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>The mist itself allows more oxygen for the roots, but the ultrafine mist (ie fog) is when stuff gets really interesting</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Sunday, August 22, 2021 3:37 AM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-878815239485939722 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=878815239485939722><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, August 22, 2021 3:38 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-878815239485939722>8/22/2021 3:38 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>my thinking goes straight to an "upstream" (hahahah) solution of filtering those minerals in bulk, so that the nozzles don't clog, or just swapping nozzles to a vinegar bath twice a month</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-878815366900498462 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=878815366900498462><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze>Eric Lotze</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'878815027447087215')"> The mist itself allows more oxygen for the roots, but the ultrafine mist (ie fog) is when stuff gets really interesting </span> <span class=chatlog__reply-edited-timestamp title="Sunday, August 22, 2021 3:37 AM">(edited)</span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, August 22, 2021 3:38 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-878815366900498462>8/22/2021 3:38 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>spooky</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-878815397229498368 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=878815397229498368><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, August 22, 2021 3:38 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-878815397229498368>8/22/2021 3:38 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>granted nutrient media or whatever the term is will always have stuff in it</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-878815497464999967 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=878815497464999967><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze>Eric Lotze</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'878815397229498368')"> granted nutrient media or whatever the term is will always have stuff in it </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, August 22, 2021 3:39 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-878815497464999967>8/22/2021 3:39 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>ah yes, so it is a catch 22 of wanting those minerals in the fog</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-879041272860541008 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=879041272860541008><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/2-ADBB4.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=paulum3036 data-user-id=860212895501778954>Paulum</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, August 22, 2021 6:36 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-879041272860541008>8/22/2021 6:36 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Could centrifugal misters be set up that may not clog as easily or fast? Run at high speeds to generate fine mist and distributed with fans? I live with very hard water was a great concern when I gardened. Seemed like I was poisoning the soil.</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-879041900227739700 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=879041900227739700><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, August 22, 2021 6:38 PM">6:38 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>For drinking I use reverse osmosis. That is too expensive for large volumes. Could resin ion exchange be used? At least with salt tolerant plants?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-879044062408224788 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=879044062408224788><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/2-ADBB4.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=paulum3036 data-user-id=860212895501778954>Paulum</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, August 22, 2021 6:47 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-879044062408224788>8/22/2021 6:47 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Droplet control sounds like a great place for a simple ai.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-880289210874101831 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880289210874101831><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/7ae59e77433a1eb8baae44b1e29c212a-6602D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=wesxdz data-user-id=230472437265989635>Wesxdz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, August 26, 2021 5:15 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-880289210874101831>8/26/2021 5:15 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>reminds me of <a href="https://www.gwern.net/fog-gun">https://www.gwern.net/fog-gun</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.gwern.net/fog-gun><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Buckminster Fuller’s fog gun</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Remaining materials towards one day building and trying out a real fog gun</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/logo-whitebg-large-border-E7D44.png> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/logo-whitebg-large-border-E7D44.png alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-883440178239258624 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=883440178239258624><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a67349d5204fa45d8d75ef87bae8aef7-C25C9.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=osrsupport6829 data-user-id=788915694997209123>-- osr-support --</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, September 3, 2021 9:55 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-883440178239258624>9/3/2021 9:55 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>more RNA hacks, this time not to ruin your immune system but your food : <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28403932">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28403932</a> <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-884560194410020874 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=884560194410020874><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, September 7, 2021 12:06 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-884560194410020874>9/7/2021 12:06 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Sunday, September 19, 2021 9:00 PM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070723/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Soylent Green (1973) - IMDb</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Soylent Green: Directed by Richard Fleischer. With Charlton Heston, Leigh Taylor-Young, Chuck Connors, Joseph Cotten. A nightmarish futuristic fantasy about the controlling power of big corporations and an innocent cop who stumbles on the truth.</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/MV5BZmFlYmJhZWItMWYyZS00NjZjLTlhYzgtODkzY2-5836B.jpg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/MV5BZmFlYmJhZWItMWYyZS00NjZjLTlhYzgtODkzY2-5836B.jpg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=thumbsup><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=👍 src=media-ose/1f44d-27259.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-950372010121379850 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=950372010121379850><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/3-FB033.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title="Deleted User" data-user-id=456226577798135808>Deleted User</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, March 7, 2022 1:39 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-950372010121379850>3/7/2022 1:39 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I feel strongly, my citie's lack of vertical framing artistic towers is in a sense--theft. <a href="https://architizer.com/blog/inspiration/stories/vertical-farming-urban-agriculture/">https://architizer.com/blog/inspiration/stories/vertical-farming-urban-agriculture/</a></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Monday, March 7, 2022 1:41 PM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href="https://architizer.com/blog/author/tian-wang/"><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Tian Wang</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://architizer.com/blog/inspiration/stories/vertical-farming-urban-agriculture/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Stacking Up: Urban Agriculture Reaches New Architectural Heights in...</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">As the global population continues to grow, architects and cities could cultivate fresh greens in skyscrapers to confront food shortages.</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/vertical-farm-A162D.jpg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/vertical-farm-A162D.jpg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=clap><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=👏 src=media-ose/1f44f-3D381.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div><div class=chatlog__reaction title=100><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=💯 src=media-ose/1f4af-4CFF5.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div><div class=chatlog__reaction title=tada><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=🎉 src=media-ose/1f389-5C738.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-954964810544578630 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=954964810544578630><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, March 20, 2022 5:49 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-954964810544578630>3/20/2022 5:49 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://youtu.be/ZXFjsDtvUiY">https://youtu.be/ZXFjsDtvUiY</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxkd2FJltPA2vwofdKxn-cw><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Werbewunder</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXFjsDtvUiY"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">DIY Hydroponik Tower im 3D Print</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/ZXFjsDtvUiY width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-954964937678151751 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=954964937678151751><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, March 20, 2022 5:49 AM">5:49 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I think i made a page on a modular grow tower like this (this may have even been the person who made it); i need to double check all that</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-983575592484093962 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=983575592484093962><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, June 7, 2022 5:38 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-983575592484093962>6/7/2022 5:38 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://youtu.be/04fHpanu-P4">https://youtu.be/04fHpanu-P4</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnQJRfTarj65XKOL011nxSw><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Down On The Farm</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04fHpanu-P4"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Vertical Farming Is Going To Change EVERYTHING.. Here's How</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/04fHpanu-P4 width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-985623807391826030 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=985623807391826030><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, June 12, 2022 9:17 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-985623807391826030>6/12/2022 9:17 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I was thinking plant variants for this the other day</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-985624018063343657 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=985624018063343657><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, June 12, 2022 9:17 PM">9:17 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>They mentioned it in that "Plant Factory" video, but i wonder how fast you could get the germination to harvest time, and how Harvest Volume (giant ear of corn/maiz) to harvest rate</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-985624258707333160 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=985624258707333160><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, June 12, 2022 9:18 PM">9:18 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Like currently they optimize for volume since you only harvest once per season etc, but would it be advantagous in these to make it as fast as possible so you could have like a 1 rotation per week belt or some shit of grow trays</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1287101326374862908 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1287101326374862908><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a63d122e27a3fb038bfe313622933231-319C9.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=roths data-user-id=188532829095854080>Roths</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, September 21, 2024 7:21 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1287101326374862908>9/21/2024 7:21 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>For vertical farming isnt the large amount of power consumption required for LEDs a concern</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1287184649445052458 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1287184649445052458><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/a63d122e27a3fb038bfe313622933231-319C9.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=roths>Roths</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1287101326374862908')"> For vertical farming isnt the large amount of power consumption required for LEDs a concern </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=303adastra data-user-id=457390086879969280>303adastra</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, September 22, 2024 12:52 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1287184649445052458>9/22/2024 12:52 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Unless you're using something like grow towers outside</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1287185587467587688 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1287185587467587688><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/a63d122e27a3fb038bfe313622933231-319C9.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=roths>Roths</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1287101326374862908')"> For vertical farming isnt the large amount of power consumption required for LEDs a concern </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=303adastra data-user-id=457390086879969280>303adastra</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, September 22, 2024 12:55 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1287185587467587688>9/22/2024 12:55 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I personally don't see the appeal of using LED lights exclusively as a light source when we have the sun. There may be a case for using it as augmented light for night time, but I'm not sure it's worth the added overhead</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1287194598313037895 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1287194598313037895><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a63d122e27a3fb038bfe313622933231-319C9.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=roths data-user-id=188532829095854080>Roths</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, September 22, 2024 1:31 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1287194598313037895>9/22/2024 1:31 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Yeah the commercial setups use LEDs but frankly if you're using power the capex is wayyy too high</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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In the last few years, however, I needed the garage space back so switched to hydroponically growing on my deck using natural sunlight only.. The sun exposure is intense and destroyed all my plastic bins in a single season.</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Tuesday, October 1, 2024 11:44 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1290784776361480193 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1290784776361480193><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, October 1, 2024 11:17 PM">11:17 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>My various attempts to mitigate:
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-I tried every single kind of plastic paint I can think of and nothing holds up in the sun. It all rapidly degrades and flakes off and still all my bins get destroyed in a single season.
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-I tried covering everything with black plastic film but it is rather unwieldly, looks terrible, tears, and I struggle to get it to stay put especially on the bottom where the drain is. While it protected better than the paint, the plastic film also degraded and made a mess within a single season.
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-I then tried covering in fiberglass mat using marine grade resin mixed with a healthy dose of black pigment. The fiberglass doesn't remain stuck to the plastic so I have to lay several layers all the way around the sides creating a sort of shell. This approach worked the best so far but damn it was a lot of work and the fiberglass also UV degrades and requires touch up every couple seasons.
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-Building on this technique I built a 10ft long wood box for my reservoir which I covered in black pigmented fiberglass. Working but I wouldn't recommend it simply because god damn it is so labor intensive. I must have 40hrs of labor into a mere 15 sq ft of grow space. Not scalable from a labor or materials $ perspective.</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Tuesday, October 1, 2024 11:50 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1290784799472222281 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1290784799472222281><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, October 1, 2024 11:17 PM">11:17 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>-This year I replaced my last plastic grow tray with one built entirely from stainless steel sheet. Got a giant milk tank from a scrapyard that came from a dairy and cut it into flat sheets with angle grinder cutoff disks (plasma torch was too rough of edge). Planned to weld all the seams together but good grief that would have been an insane amount of welding so I just welded enough spots to be strong and sealed the remaining parts with silicon. Building everything out of stainless is way more time intensive than I thought it would be but hopefully it will last a super long time.</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1290785168407138436 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1290785168407138436><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, October 1, 2024 11:19 PM">11:19 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Here is my version using black painted PP grow trays that didn't last (but look good at the beginning of the grow season in this pic)</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/20210723_193334-A5095.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/20210723_193334-A5095.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: 20210723_193334.png (2.59 MB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=green_heart><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=💚 src=media-ose/1f49a-E8B01.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1290785656213082153 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1290785656213082153><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, October 1, 2024 11:21 PM">11:21 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Here is this year's version with stainless steel grow tray on the left (painted black for aesthetics) and older fiberglass covered polypropylene grow tray on the right</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Tuesday, October 1, 2024 11:51 PM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/20240815_150714-2DAFE.jpg> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/20240815_150714-2DAFE.jpg alt="Image attachment" title="Image: 20240815_150714.jpg (1.17 MB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/20240815_150540-B7612.jpg> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/20240815_150540-B7612.jpg alt="Image attachment" title="Image: 20240815_150540.jpg (1.13 MB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1290786026557800458 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1290786026557800458><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, October 1, 2024 11:22 PM">11:22 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>You can also see I'm slowly switching from using milk jug bottoms as pots (which get destroyed in a single season) to purpose built metal ones fabricated from recycled aluminum sheet</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1290787298463711242 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1290787298463711242><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, October 1, 2024 11:27 PM">11:27 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I should have mentioned I now exclusively use a flood and drain style system. My first couple years I had nine different systems all running as a deep water culture (air pumps, air stones, plants on floating rafts, etc). It was a noisy maintenance nightmare compared to cheaper flood and drain, i didn't notice much difference in growth rates, and flood & drain seems to be compatible with a wider variety of plants.</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Tuesday, October 1, 2024 11:47 PM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=thumbsup><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=👍 src=media-ose/1f44d-27259.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1290787643713519626 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1290787643713519626><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, October 1, 2024 11:29 PM">11:29 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I also spent a fortune on those lightweight clay balls which now seems like a waste of money - now in storage. I find simple cheap pea gravel from home depot works better for me.</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Tuesday, October 1, 2024 11:47 PM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=thumbsup><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=👍 src=media-ose/1f44d-27259.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1290789879902371840 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1290789879902371840><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/edebdfc8c7ed15168e6eb1896c20b406-68044.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=cmjstealth data-user-id=238534974465245187>Cmjstealth</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, October 1, 2024 11:38 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1290789879902371840>10/1/2024 11:38 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Can't affordably grow food with a system cost of ~$100/sqr ft between time and labor</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Tuesday, October 1, 2024 11:50 PM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=100><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=💯 src=media-ose/1f4af-4CFF5.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1290791272629538826 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1290791272629538826><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, October 1, 2024 11:43 PM">11:43 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Anyway... the TLDR for my outdoor hydronics journey is that I've yet to find materials cheap, durable, and easy enough to construct to ever consider scaling up. Maybe concrete? Thinner sheet metal with some sort of external reinforcement frame? Maybe containers built from precious plastic style recycled plastic sheet covered with thin aluminum sheet metal for the UV?</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Tuesday, October 1, 2024 11:51 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1290803014487113848 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1290803014487113848><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/edebdfc8c7ed15168e6eb1896c20b406-68044.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=cmjstealth>Cmjstealth</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1290791272629538826')"> Anyway... the TLDR for my outdoor hydronics journey is that I've yet to find materials cheap, durable, and easy enough to construct to ever consider scaling up. Maybe concrete? Thinner sheet metal with some sort of external reinforcement frame? Maybe containers built from precious plastic style recycled plastic sheet covered with thin aluminum sheet metal for the UV? </span> <span class=chatlog__reply-edited-timestamp title="Tuesday, October 1, 2024 11:51 PM">(edited)</span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=303adastra data-user-id=457390086879969280>303adastra</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, October 2, 2024 12:30 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1290803014487113848>10/2/2024 12:30 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Care to join me in replicating the recipe for self-healing Roman concrete? <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1290929286362173491 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1290929286362173491><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, October 2, 2024 8:52 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1290929286362173491>10/2/2024 8:52 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="cmjstealth">@Cmjstealth</span><ul><li>nice, I remember others with same conclusions ( labor / energy per nutrient ). Personally, I wont let any plastic getting near food, ...</li></ul>
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<ul><li><a href="https://forum.osr-plastic.org/t/food-aquaponic-projects-resources/11024">https://forum.osr-plastic.org/t/food-aquaponic-projects-resources/11024</a> (generated via OpenAI/PerplexityAI)</li><li>components (vertical) : <a href="https://forum.osr-plastic.org/t/hydroponics-components-from-recycled-plastic/8250">https://forum.osr-plastic.org/t/hydroponics-components-from-recycled-plastic/8250</a></li></ul></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1290929664042209360 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1290929664042209360><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, October 2, 2024 8:53 AM">8:53 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>plastic-sheet & AL foli : will try, got plenty of sheets, and sun <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1290941471587045459 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1290941471587045459><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, October 2, 2024 9:40 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1290941471587045459>10/2/2024 9:40 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>btw. natural light, might it be possible to use optics, and a 'smart' collector to harvest light/energy and then distribute where you'd need it ? could need this as well for melting stuff <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1290941472811778078 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1290941472811778078><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/def5e0a7ff07e73d477a87df10a3dc4f-BFBB1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(153,45,34) title=Arcane#7800 data-user-id=437808476106784770>Arcane</span> <span class=chatlog__author-tag>BOT</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, October 2, 2024 9:40 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1290941472811778078>10/2/2024 9:40 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="karen_fi501_13984">@Guinea Pig</span> has reached level <strong>5</strong>. GG!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1290951108906192997 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1290951108906192997><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/edebdfc8c7ed15168e6eb1896c20b406-68044.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=cmjstealth data-user-id=238534974465245187>Cmjstealth</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, October 2, 2024 10:18 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1290951108906192997>10/2/2024 10:18 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Although not a top priority project for me right now... just had a random crazy idea. What if instead of pumping nutrients from a reservoir into floodable trays filled with pots.... imagine a setup where the pots themselves are intermittently lowered into a large tank/lake of nutrients with some mechanical system. This would allow you to eliminate all of the plumbing, all the pumps, the entire grow tray structure, and even the filters. <img
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src="media-ose/1f914-15707.svg"> I've never seen anyone try anything like this before.</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Wednesday, October 2, 2024 10:20 AM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=fire><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=🔥 src=media-ose/1f525-8FE4F.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1291171517518053487 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1291171517518053487><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/edebdfc8c7ed15168e6eb1896c20b406-68044.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=cmjstealth>Cmjstealth</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1290951108906192997')"> Although not a top priority project for me right now... just had a random crazy idea. What if instead of pumping nutrients from a reservoir into floodable trays filled with pots.... imagine a setup where the pots themselves are intermittently lowered into a large tank/lake of nutrients with some mechanical system. This would allow you to eliminate all of the plumbing, all the pumps, the entire grow tray structure, and even the filters. <img
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src="media-ose/1f914-15707.svg"> I've never seen anyone try anything like this before. </span> <span class=chatlog__reply-edited-timestamp title="Wednesday, October 2, 2024 10:20 AM">(edited)</span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=303adastra data-user-id=457390086879969280>303adastra</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, October 3, 2024 12:54 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1291171517518053487>10/3/2024 12:54 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>You're essentially describing a cross between a self-wicking grow bed and a keyhole garden. Requires no plumbing and you have fertilizer in the form of compost tea leaching into your growbed.</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1291172626768859228 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1291172626768859228><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, October 3, 2024 12:59 AM">12:59 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I'm working on a small scale version of this, but need a week or so before the design is ready for release</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1294828165671419976 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1294828165671419976><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=303adastra>303adastra</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1290803014487113848')"> Care to join me in replicating the recipe for self-healing Roman concrete? <img
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src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> <a href="https://discord.com/channels/700486873272811562/845335418584039474/1255114049210028094" onclick="scrollToMessage(event, '1255114049210028094')">https://discord.com/channels/700486873272811562/845335418584039474/1255114049210028094</a> </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, October 13, 2024 3:04 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1294828165671419976>10/13/2024 3:04 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>It was basically just volcanic ash as the cement, right?</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1294828428553486367 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1294828428553486367><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, October 13, 2024 3:05 AM">3:05 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Granted you can make some bonkers concrete mixes if you have the money. IDK if we have a channel or if i have rambled properly on-wiki yet but yeah.
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Also some concrete engineer (for lack of the proper word i guess) has a whole youtube channel and covers stuff</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1294837145088819240 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1294837145088819240><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze>Eric Lotze</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1294828165671419976')"> It was basically just volcanic ash as the cement, right? </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=303adastra data-user-id=457390086879969280>303adastra</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, October 13, 2024 3:40 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1294837145088819240>10/13/2024 3:40 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>That and the hot mixing of quicklime directly into the cement mixture seemed to be the critical part.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1312738194336514170 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1312738194336514170><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/edebdfc8c7ed15168e6eb1896c20b406-68044.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=cmjstealth>Cmjstealth</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1290791272629538826')"> Anyway... the TLDR for my outdoor hydronics journey is that I've yet to find materials cheap, durable, and easy enough to construct to ever consider scaling up. Maybe concrete? Thinner sheet metal with some sort of external reinforcement frame? Maybe containers built from precious plastic style recycled plastic sheet covered with thin aluminum sheet metal for the UV? </span> <span class=chatlog__reply-edited-timestamp title="Tuesday, October 1, 2024 11:51 PM">(edited)</span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, December 1, 2024 12:12 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1312738194336514170>12/1/2024 12:12 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>grow food, using 'recycled plastic' - here a 60x60x15mm sheet sliced up and bent, using at least 20T pressure ; easily a day, robust, modular bla bla <img
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WIP : <a href="https://git.polymech.io/PolyCraft/poly-mech/src/branch/master/cad/drawers/600">https://git.polymech.io/PolyCraft/poly-mech/src/branch/master/cad/drawers/600</a> - a client, a carpenter will try it sometimes this months <img
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#multiplexernoise</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Sunday, December 1, 2024 2:03 PM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/DSC03166-CBE5D.JPG> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/DSC03166-CBE5D.JPG alt="Image attachment" title="Image: DSC03166.JPG (240.07 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1312739589047189586 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1312739589047189586><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, December 1, 2024 12:18 PM">12:18 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>adaptive pressure control : needed for the motorized version of the injector as well; if anyone wants, or has ideas ....</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1312740733480079412 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1312740733480079412><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, December 1, 2024 12:23 PM">12:23 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>might be an interesting exercise : smart sun collector & plant turret @ home <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1314021541713023118 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1314021541713023118><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/edebdfc8c7ed15168e6eb1896c20b406-68044.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=cmjstealth>Cmjstealth</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1290951108906192997')"> Although not a top priority project for me right now... just had a random crazy idea. What if instead of pumping nutrients from a reservoir into floodable trays filled with pots.... imagine a setup where the pots themselves are intermittently lowered into a large tank/lake of nutrients with some mechanical system. This would allow you to eliminate all of the plumbing, all the pumps, the entire grow tray structure, and even the filters. <img
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src="media-ose/1f914-15707.svg"> I've never seen anyone try anything like this before. </span> <span class=chatlog__reply-edited-timestamp title="Wednesday, October 2, 2024 10:20 AM">(edited)</span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=303adastra data-user-id=457390086879969280>303adastra</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, December 5, 2024 1:12 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1314021541713023118>12/5/2024 1:12 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>How about something like this? <a href="https://github.com/multiplanetaryhomestead/reprap-chinampa">https://github.com/multiplanetaryhomestead/reprap-chinampa</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(30,35,39,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://github.com/multiplanetaryhomestead/reprap-chinampa><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">GitHub - multiplanetaryhomestead/reprap-chinampa: Passive self-wate...</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Passive self-watering 3D-printable vegetable pot, inspired by the chinampa (floating garden bed) - multiplanetaryhomestead/reprap-chinampa</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/reprap-chinampa-D46F2> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/reprap-chinampa-D46F2 alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=eyes><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=👀 src=media-ose/1f440-6C64D.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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