I just found this channel, and i love their "chaotic maker" energy (they are also less edgy than michael reeves etc, which is nice): https://www.youtube.com/c/SufficientlyAdvanced/videos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY6IWNkGjA0

11:17 PM

This was gross as hell (pun intended), but they talk with such a calm tone lol "i love how sharpening it gave it a sort of "semi-gloss" finish"

January '21 Technology Digest | All the Technology News for January 2021 — Pro Robots https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8V9JFGSrMU

PRO ROBOTS

January '21 Technology Digest | All the Technology News for January...

@Eric Lotze Despite his many faults, one of the things I like about John Oliver is that he's constantly pushing the envelope on saying negative things about large companies, often doing entire episodes on their shady dealings. He's practically the only mainstream media person who does this constantly, probably because he's one of the few people with enough financial backing and clout to get away with it. Also, companies that want to attack him, probably back off, just to avoid a Streisand Effect, as illustrated in the attached segment. (His passive aggressive "kicks-in-the-balls" to people who directly confront him, are masterful.) Must be a nice position to be in. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bml8KwCmob8

LastWeekTonight

Letter of the Week -- POM Wonderful (Web Exclusive): Last Week Toni...

3:03 AM

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect

Streisand effect

The Streisand effect is a social phenomenon that occurs when an attempt to hide, remove, or censor information has the unintended consequence of further publicizing that information, often via the Internet. It is named after American entertainer Barbra Streisand, whose attempt to suppress the California Coastal Records Project's photograph of h...

really off topic question, but is this hole punchout standard for drop ceiling framework?

4:05 PM

was thinking about getting some extra frames to convert this ceiling into a 2x2' grid instead of a 2x4

4:05 PM

and some frame caps, if they make those, to cover this ugly beige underside

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I don't know but i know drop ceilings allow you to do all sorts of stuff cables/lights wise (saw something on someone who made each one a "DMX Controlled RGBW Light" or like...practical stuff lol

9:18 PM

ALSO @Frederik C (ZA) I LOVE JOHN OLIVER

9:19 PM

granted the humor aspect can make sharing the comment/arguement...complex (although not as bad as contrapoints etc...) i want a "sterilized for centrists" or something co-release

9:21 PM

Some of my favorite episodes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UN8bJb8biZU (edited)

LastWeekTonight

SLAPP Suits: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)

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e a t s h i t b o b

9:25 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UsHHOCH4q8

LastWeekTonight

Tobacco: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)

9:25 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9wHzt6gBgI

LastWeekTonight

Chickens: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)

9:26 PM

Or the running gag about AT&T's shitty service

9:26 PM

ALSO

9:26 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPXuw8SJfFI

Everyday Astronaut

Watch NASA land the Perseverance Rover on Mars!

9:28 PM

Also just in case y'all haven't heard: https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/feb/17/tucker-carlson/tucker-carlson-falsely-blames-green-new-deal-wind-/

PolitiFact - Tucker Carlson falsely blames Green New Deal, wind ene...

More than 4 million Texans were forced to bear single-digit temperatures without heat or power this week when a polar vo/>

wait, @Eric Lotze, RGBW LEDs for drop ceilings???

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3:31 AM

do tell?

I LOVE JOHN OLIVER Well then... some compilations. John Oliver Trashing AT & T https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T87urVUlD-E Trashing brands https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqS7sddUVH4 (Not everything he's done, of course.)

@Frederik C (ZA) has reached level 9. GG!

Yeah, keep sucking up, bot. You'll get nothing from me. I'm onto you...

NASA trying to be less nerdy is adorably sad... I recently realized the historical connection between the public interest in the Apollo missions and one of the worst political areas in modern history (commonly "sold" to us in the media as a time of "progress" and "hope.") It's happening again... supposedly "smart" people preferring to both mentally and literally live on another planet, because they don't want to deal with this one. Well, you can ignore reality only up to a point. And then it kills you.

8:55 AM

Oliver sort of addressed this cyclical nature of public narrative, a while back. But it's still extremely narrow and simplistic, if you expand it beyond US borders. (Which Americans, generally, are mentally incapable of.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsxukOPEdgg

LastWeekTonight

U.S. History: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)

I kind of look on space as untouched by gestures vaugley this, AND it will take much longer to "get there" so i feel we may be able to NOT mess it up and actually do things "right from the start" for once

Eric Lotze

I kind of look on space as untouched by gestures vaugley this, AND it will take much longer to "get there" so i feel we may be able to NOT mess it up and actually do things "right from the start" for once

Yeah

[Sigh]... OK, Zoomer...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJoSdDZecmc

Redacted Tonight

Catastrophe Capitalism Has Gone Intergalactic

More on our ol' pal, Bill... (Not mentioned in the video: The South African government has opted to re-sell or swap the Oxford vaccine, because it is only 30% effective against our variant of the C-19 virus.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtW4reb6zXQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvjwYgu1Mgg (edited)

Some More News

How Rich People Keep Screwing Up Global Health - SOME MORE NEWS

The Jimmy Dore Show

What Is Bill Gates Up To? w/Max Blumenthal

FYI... In South Africa, I actually have spoken to adult people who really have never heard of dinosaurs before. Those conversations were easier than trying to discuss objective reality with Americans, online. Like when I say IQ does not correlate with societal success, and an American college student reacts as if I've proposed a flat Earth theory. Of course, it's always possible that I'm dealing with a troll and not an actual fucking retard (very impressed with himself, because his daddy got him into an ivy league school). But, is finding out which it is, a good use of my time? I don't think so. Also... I could completely ruin Elon Musk for you if you want, but I'll need some time... The cult is strong with that one. There aren't that many convenient compilation videos.

I mean isn't the point not "ruining" things, but trying to actually progress? I think that many people are doing many things in varying degrees and dimensions of good. There is evidence (e.g. from Givewell) that for example The Against Malaria Foundation which is supported by Gates is saving lives. You might not agree with some of the underlying assumptions about what is good, or effective altruism and its (perceived?) alignment with capitalism etc. But even still, I think it's not productive to antagonize them. Just do your own stuff and ignore them. Especially if its the "World Controlling Elite". What does it help to criticise them? I think its mostly procrastination instead of actually doing something productive.

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@homunkoloss has reached level 2. GG!

Even if you believe in a revolution against the elite, I think that a positive motivation is needed for that to not go to shit immediately. That's what I like about OSE and other similar initiatives, its practical and pragmatic, though I have to admit that I didn't contribute much to that so far.

I think that in this scenario, new elites/leaders/oppressors will arise pretty quickly therefore "destroying capitalism" will lead to more much harsher capitalism if you don't provide alternative structures. That is more or less outlined why I believe in reform and making things better instead of burning everything down and building it anew

on the note of anti-american sentiment, I am quite unhappy with many things my own government does. I do try to influence that in small possibly irrelevant ways (voting, even being a party member, participation in local volunteering efforts, ...) but I don't feel quite responsible about what my government does. But if now someone from a foreign country criticised "the Austrians" it would make me wonder whether they are not in exactly the same position in their country. So is that just lack of awareness? I usually think it is when seeing other Austrians criticise "The Americans" (meaning US Americans).

Those are horrifying sentiments. But okay... And yes, I do hate America. And I was upfront about that, weeks ago. Several World-famous American academics share my sentiments. So, is it like the "N-word"? Only some people are allowed to say it?

I'm afraid I don't understand what you mean. What good does it do (you) to hate America?

5:19 PM

What are only some people allowed to say? That they hate America? I wouldn't say someone is not allowed to say that, I just find it hard to understand what they even mean by "America".

5:19 PM

And what do you find horrifying?

This is the Catch-22 situation I've talked about before (that got a similar response.) To a non-American that's like a "What's a dinosaur?" question. It may be based on honest ignorance, which is fine. But trying to come up with a concise answer (which is likely to be insufficient), or a long answer, drawn out over several days, (that might not be believed) is an exercise in futility. I could add that it's interesting how foreigners always need to adjust their views, but Americans don't need to. (And I already know that telling Americans there are things they don't understand, specifically because they are Americans, is an almost guaranteed "table flip." People from other countries find that strange about you. Yes, really.) Also, I specifically called this channel "off-topic." Feel free to ignore it.

I think that generally online discussions are often not helpful, same goes for Telegram and the like, but I am actually procrastinating, I should much rather study

. Also I am "people from other countries" and there are some things I find weird/chauvinistic/despicable about the US and about certain patterns or cultures therein, but there I also see such things in my own culture and the people living around me, and I am sure that it is similar in South Africa and any other country as well. And I also don't get what you want to achieve by telling Americans that there are things they don't understand specifically because they are Americans. Surely there are things you don't understand because you are South African, or Poor, or Rich, or a Postgraduate in Philology or whatever. My girlfriend often tells me that I don't understand her perception of reality and that is probably true. But if you say something like "I hate Austria, you are Austrian and you can never understand" that sounds condescending and I am not sure how such a statement could do any good. I am also confronted with the issue of talking to people that are maybe wilfully ignorant, but I think that also there a mindset of learning and teaching, as in: let me understand your position and let me tell you about mine and how I got to it, is most helpful. I am genuinely interested in your views because I was confronted with "Country bashing" a few times and I am never quite sure what to make of it. How should we criticise our own country vs other countries? Should there be a difference even? How do you feel about a statement like "I hate (South) Africa"? For example a Russian colleague of mine would get upset if I would say negative things about Russia, and not because she is a Nationalist or thinks that Russia is great, but because she would see it as rude for me to judge her country of origin.

Here's another thing you might or might not believe: There's literally a huge wildfire heading straight for my town, right now. So, yeah... this conversation: Not a priority. And after two days, all is forgotten. That's how Discord works.

Oh, that sounds terrible, I hope its extinguished soon...

It's more a case of me saying that the person needs more education than I can realistically give them. It's me "waving the white flag." I can bow out of a conversation with someone saying "Dinosaurs are a lie," without conceding that I'm wrong. I'm allowed to do that. And I can't think of a South African I know, Black or White, that would be offended by someone hating our country. They would give zero fucks. Because those who supposedly "love" us, treat us so badly, that the words have no actual meaning.

Also, much like America has been doing for the last several hundred years (with impunity), in the 20th Century, South Africa was responsible and globally sanctioned for what was literally described as "a crime against humanity." Before Occupy, Extinction Rebellion and BLM, the anti-Apartheid Movement was the single biggest, sustained protest movement in World history. Directed entirely at my country. So, after 50 years of that, you think, maybe there might still be a lot of people around World who genuinely hate South Africa? Ummm.... Yeah... No shit, Sherlock.

Zero points for guessing correctly on that one. Zero.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OtKEetGy2Y

On the note of this: https://discord.com/channels/700486873272811562/700486873272811565/825781063708049450

7:22 PM

Granted i am VERY utilitarian/pragmatic so that is where my viewpoint comes from

7:24 PM

I think the analogy is a bit off, prisons can't really be small scale and are tied to the jurisdiction's legal code. However there is a difference between some reform driven prison (sweeden i think, but i know USA tends to hold other countries like these as a utopian paradise when they are more complex than that, as are all things), and a USA for profit prison / 2000's (and maybe under trump) gitmo

@Eric Lotze has reached level 29. GG!

On more the animal note, i think there is a difference between the trope of the "small family (red barn) farm with one pig" vs this whole mess: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intensive_pig_farming

7:27 PM

Or having 1-a few chickens vs a battery cage

7:28 PM

What i mean is yes both are bad from an objective standpoint, but from a harm reduction standpoint it may be better to have that as an intermediary step

7:28 PM

I am not justifying it, i am just thinking from a "reducing collective suffering" standpoint (edited)

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a z o l l a p o n i c s h y p e

7:29 PM

i'm def down (and fish just sound like trouble lol)

7:32 PM

i need to do all that math/find papers today

7:32 PM

https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Azolla_and_Duckweed_Calculations

Azolla and Duckweed Calculations

7:32 PM

that page was moreso on growth rates, not nitrogen stuff produced/cm^2

Just watched this movie: "Sala samobójców. Hejter" on netflix d a m n https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hater

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIxY_Y9TGWI

Tantacrul

Corporate Music - How to Compose with no Soul

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5:52 AM

granted with some of these things it gets a bit too "meta" but this one is pretty on point imo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXAirenteRA

Atlas Pro

The Plan to Revive the Mammoth Steppe to Fight Climate Change

https://youtu.be/yFZcfIfJUdg This may seem very C++ specific, but it touches on something I keep looking around for - that whole modular, component-based line of thinking for long-term "technical capital" of sorts. The act of building lots of little lego-like, loosely coupled manifestations that can be pieced together for extreme re-usability. Something that, even though may be more effort to design, seems to make any past "module" created very worthwhile in the future, and makes future projects way less effort due to having so much of a selection. I think the video itself is far more abstract, rather than code-related. I think this translates well to any system. I mean, I can already tell OSE is already on this path, but I love finding more media that talks about it - keeps my mind in the right place.

ACCU Conference

Lakos'20: The "Dam" Book is Done! - John Lakos [ ACCU 2021 ]

As much I love C & C++ (done it for 30 years, still doing it), those things seem done more clean with pure 'functional languages/programming'. I did a little in Typescript and Ramda (and the like) - it's like heaven, composing new functions by just altering a little the arguments

However, I managed often to end up also with an unmaintainable mess

OSE or the like wise, I am afraid you'd need real seniors to compose a new platform from such 'building blocks', as tech is moving to fast, I'd stick with basic and disposable code/blocks

https://youtu.be/tyixMpuGEL8 An amazing video on old school vfx and the prop workholding (they actually used something similar to scanning spray to get a "matte" layer of a prop)

Captain Disillusion

VFXcool: Flight of the Navigator

11:11 PM

(Also they use blender for all their stuff and had a great talk on it, i'll grab that too)

11:12 PM

https://youtu.be/1qSTcxt2t74

Captain Disillusion

Captain Disillusion: World's Greatest Blenderer - Live at the Blend...

Playing Kerbal Space Program and Oxygen Not Included at the same time. XP

https://www.twitch.tv/gpdmcc

Oxygen not included was so stressful for me lol

9:14 PM

One thing goes wrong and the system falls apart

9:15 PM

Also, at least when i plaid, the water filters were non-renewable

9:15 PM

forget the exact steps but i had to keep on mining something for the filters

I have definitely always given up around midway or something decent. Uuusually due to algae loss,so way early on honestly. I always want to try something new like... separate colonies where groups don't head back. I tend to choose the ice planet a lot too because... uhh the heat problem freaks me out (in reality too)... but being cold I feel like I can just "over-industrialize" to generate heat.

i never got to the space aspect so good on you lol

Oop no I never got to space either ahah I just ment separate areas haha

or how i most often have to make a catacomb/mass grave

I don't think I've ever each reached the bottom nor the top of the map...

9:23 PM

Which honestly, if I can play a game so many times and still not reach mid-game let alone end-game stuff.... ohh I love that..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCK89V4NpJY

This Does Not Compute

Sony MiniDisc: The (Not) Forgotten Audio Format That (Never) Failed

1:04 AM

the death/gap in optical data storage makes me sad

1:04 AM

ALSO how CD's / DVDs weren't in a casette

1:05 AM

Like "golly gee thin disk that doesn't like dust/fingerprints, what could go wrong"

ye - have tons of these still around - some failed (20ys) - possibly I need just a new old player - the sound dynamics is stunning, near vinyl

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damn, can't find it back - there was an interview with one of the top club's speaker makers (trompete - wood style) ; he said that music industry is on purpose trying to reduce sound dynamic range - listening to mainstream radio in the car, I can confirm - I just wanna throw up listening to this dumb garbage - apparently they're out of new melodies, etc.. so now it's all about selling garbage to you

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https://youtu.be/9BhkjEc6Q64

Relativity Space

This Is Terran R

8:33 AM

3d printed wire-feed arc welding 3d printed, tons of shielding gas, but man the possibilities it opens up. This is the first spaceship with true topology optimization, launching in hopefully 4 years. Should be among the highest performance heavy lift vehicles if not the highest pound for pound. Definitely giving elon a run for his money if they can pull it off

8:33 AM

https://youtu.be/_38DHOde5T8 Hard for me to overstate the importance of this realm. This realm of "an entire company of Virtual Machines" spawned from a YAML text file. The power to play a modern game while 12 people use 12 Windows operating systems to do their work. The "homelab" hobbyists even with normal or subpar hardware, using Proxmox as a starting point, running numerous linux/bsd servers to "mess with/learn" server stuff, GPU passthrough for a near native experience. Personally this isn't off-topic, this is the edge of a strangely underutilized(i.e. mainstream/business world still doing the old ways, or just paying for cloud) IT realm. I think OSE could do great things with it on the backend, but also of course dipping into it as well to jump a tech gap - mini VM servers or containers handling tractors, automated farms, and... my goodness all else that could be connected.. but not by a "bunch of server machines", but possibly just one. Templatized, and sharable. Spinning up workspaces snapshotted to an OpenCAD or something, loaded onto many member's remote access, all setup skipped(and yet so well documented, due to how automating that works), everyone able to start at the exact same OS, exact same software, same state, etc. Anyway yeah, a weird "IT-ish" sounding realm - which I admit I once thought boring - but man... so much potential.

Level1Techs

What Can You Do With 64 Core Threadripper Pro? We'll Show You!

At a minimum, if IT-related aspects are embraced more focused in the future, I say skip the old ways. No "machine-per-server" mentality, don't waste the time learning that and wasting those resources. Jump into the deep end of this seemingly complex private cloud-like thing (search "homelab", learn Ansible or similar, try Proxmox, compare VMs vs Containers). It's just too worth it, no matter how complex it seems... it seems way more simple after even minor mastery. That video is just an extreme example, but a $100 thinkpad can show a lot, and a multicore desktop even far more.

I found a real life version of my invasive species killing ROV thing lol: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COTSBot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gij5i66UujU

COTSBot

COTSBot is a small intelligent underwater craft 4.5 feet long, which is being designed by Queensland University of Technology (QUT) to kill the very destructive crown of thorns starfish in the Great Barrier Reef off the north-east coast of Australia. It identifies its target using an image-analyzing neural net to analyze what an onboard camera s...

TheQUTube

COTSbot injects a COTS

Shitpost from another wiki:

4:52 AM

https://screenshot-media.com/the-future/trends/jeff-bezos-space-petition/ (Someone posted that) (edited)

Malavika Pradeep

More than 57,000 people have signed petitions to stop Jeff Bezos fr...

Last week the internet wanted Jeff Bezos, multibillionaire and founder of Amazon, to buy and gobble up the Mona Lisa. In the latest twist of events, however, the internet is now on a quest to banish billionaires from the planet altogether.

4:52 AM

nah we need something higher capacity than that tin can I am team this, and just breathe on a heat tile: (edited)

@Mossdew I guess since lots of my stuff has been off-topic, moving convo to here. Alas, I've got no multiplayer game - as much as I'd love to(even a basic chat room with movement, gahhh) - but I'll try to let you know if I do! How big is your club so far? Mine is like... 1 person, me alone xP. Also just FYI I'm not too successful in the "making a game" situation, rather its the process of doing it that I like the most, from the knowledge management to the act of coding itself. A game just feels like the coolest end-goal, but I'm not really too end-goal oriented. Anyway, totally let me know more about this club - I reallly don't think I could join anything, heck I arrived at OSE and have barely done anything even though I love it so much. So... lazy.... guh.

6:51 AM

I'm really liking this MD0 license though, so yes, I think I'mma steal. Thank ye. I'll ask some peeps if it seems like it can be legit.

https://youtu.be/b30kzJmKZNs Glad to see even recently some videos come out about it - it totally doesn't make sense that it shoulda been allowed to fade away so easily yarrg!

Aci

What happened to Worlds Adrift?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5v8D-alAKE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Addai3fFC3Y

Veritasium

This is why we can't have nice things

Our Own Devices

The Phoebus Cartel: Making a Worse Mousetrap

4:54 AM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoebus_cartel

Phoebus cartel

The Phoebus cartel existed to control the manufacture and sale of incandescent light bulbs. They appropriated market territories and fixed the useful life of such bulbs. Corporations based in Europe and America founded the cartel on January 15, 1925 in Geneva. Phoebus based itself in Switzerland. The corporation named itself Phœbus S.A. Compagni...

Just got off of a 1 hour call/holding music bit to change 1 SIM Card

8:19 PM

Good thing the (non-monopolized) free market of communications infrastructure makes customer experience optimized (for maximum profit)

8:20 PM

It was in french or some other european language but there was this bit where some comedy show over there blocked "Mobistar" 's headquarters with a 40 foot container

8:20 PM

Then they had them call "beuro-containers" who's number just went to the show's hosts it was an amazing bit

8:21 PM

https://vimeo.com/113504317

haha, nice one feels like talking to PP Central / Gang, as user, as contributor or investor, lol (edited)

Regarding Obsidian @-- osr-support --, This guy's theme is a tad 'whoah', but so far has a good overview on the features: https://youtu.be/TDhTpPIjsDg

John Mavrick

I Tried Obsidian Note Taking for a Week... (MD App Review, Tips, Fe...

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really really nice - just a shame they charge for a note taking app; haven't seen much about sync to whatever features or multi-media caps or browser integrations. nice theme; I remember having it used somewhere too 10 years back

(edited)

I do hope to just someday learn Org Mode in Emacs... after learning Emacs. OooooOOh I like that theme there

1:18 AM

I kinda.. don't trust "Sync" on anything, I feel like everything has this flawed, unless they explicitly have an explained system or a "merge conflict" thing for you to handle manually. If I'm offline on one device, editing the same area... and then I edit that area on my online one... and then... I mean, I've lost lots of content. They only charge for Publish, which can be self-hosted somehow I believe. Sync, again, I don't trust Syncs ahah. It is free though otherwise, unless you're a business.

Random thing... I think I wanted something like this before for something: https://vac.muzychenko.net/en/index.htm

Virtual Audio Cable (VAC) - connect audio applications, route and m...

Virtual Audio Cable (VAC) - sound routing/transfer, integrating with DAW, SDR, VoIP, SIP. Simulates a multi-line audio adapter/card with loopback

https://www.livescience.com/bee-creates-perfect-clone-army.html

Single bee is making an immortal clone army thanks to a genetic fluke

The worker bees' ability to clone themselves can be as destabilizing to the hives of other species as it is to their own.

11:50 PM

One hell of a genetic anomoly, a man being interviewed for the article said he's never seen this, but it the same bee genome has been around since the 90's. A female bee producing DNA clones in eggs, exact copies. It's quite parasitic to normal hives because these bees tell the hive to feed it as much as possible so they get as big as a queen almost. Does anyone else agree that this is rare to see, or are there other examples of perfect clones like this? (edited)

Uh i mean

5:17 AM

the only thing that comes to mind is lack of genetic changes in things that reproduce asexually or like siphonophores producing a bunch of colonial organisms from one embryo

5:17 AM

otherwise like

5:18 AM

cant think of any other big examples

there's a genus of lizard that can reproduce via cloning. Multiple species in that genus have evolved the ability to reproduce asexually. The resulting daughter lineages are clones of their mother. Although its suspected that this method of reproduction isn't viable, especially for large multicellular organisms. So even though its occurred multiple times in this genus, those species have essentially lost all their males and are dying out.

right Ive heard of those

I've talked myself into Guilded btw, I think I'm finally gonna go heavy into kinda sorta building my community, and using Guilded + Obsidian. Btw I found a great tour of those features finally I think: https://youtu.be/hZD4zZalzDw?t=74 (However, it's glancing over or missing big one: Threaded discussions - and even deeper, threads within threads. That means conversations can happen quite neatly in paralell in, say, one general channel, but not "build the wall of text" that can flood things upwards so dayumn fast.)

Shae Stream Archive

Guilded Overview: Should you switch from Discord?

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this a bible for the budding engineer/fabricator/prototyper https://youtu.be/SjJulcvTA7Y (edited)

Stuff Made Here

Why did I make NINE different catapults?

Has a PILE of CNC machines etc

OwnerOfOwn

this a bible for the budding engineer/fabricator/prototyper https://youtu.be/SjJulcvTA7Y (edited)

nice channel - but no; this is your bible : https://git.osr-plastic.org/osr-plastic/pp-next/src/branch/master/resources/books/Machinerys_Handbook_Large_Print.pdf (literally sleeping on it:-)

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"Fine Art" and copyright all in one for me to easily have a thing to hate lol https://news.in-24.com/news/94259.html

Plagiarism charge against the non-existent work of art sold for 15,...

An American artist accuses Italian plastic artist Salvatore Garau of having stolen the concept of invisible sculpture from him, and threatens to sue if he is not credited. The work is neither visible nor palpable and yet it is the subject of an accusation of plagiarism. Created by the Italian painter Salvatore Garau, the invisible… Continue read...

-- osr-support --

nice channel - but no; this is your bible : https://git.osr-plastic.org/osr-plastic/pp-next/src/branch/master/resources/books/Machinerys_Handbook_Large_Print.pdf (literally sleeping on it:-)

okay maybe a great introduction to some complex concepts for teens and pre-teens who can't read

2896 pages of excellence

https://endofyou.io/

admin

Exhibition

where do you all live, other than being disembodied words on a screen?

im from Massachusetts

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behind the screen, surely

spoken like a true cypherpunk

7:46 PM

I split time between Detroit and Snowflake, AZ, and currently at Factor e Farm

8:46 PM

ANYWHO

8:48 PM

I'm in Florida, but am also currently visiting family in Ashtabula Ohio (USA for both for clarification i guess)

8:48 PM

Was there a map of any sorts yet?

Eric Lotze

Was there a map of any sorts yet?

a map of where different members? Not that I know of. That would be a great contribution.

In case anyone is interested in acquiring Detroit properties to rehab, or empty land for OSE builds / campuses, here is the land bank auction site: https://buildingdetroit.org/properties/auction/ They usually start at $1k, and a house that currently has 4 hours left in the auction is up to $7.3k. The terms are you need to bring it up to code within 6 months, which is doable if it's your full-time job to be the general contractor. Which for a full livable house that you own forever free-and-clear, might be worth it. I'm happy to answer any questions about Detroit, and you're also welcome to come visit our current houses and soak up the do-it-together urban farming vibe in the D

7376 Hanover St 3731 Northwestern St We are tracking our contractors, quotes, and all other work in an open source way on our Trello board. You're welcome to use this information for your own homes. https://trello.com/b/b7zAOUHk/arcology

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Paul Pham

a map of where different members? Not that I know of. That would be a great contribution.

I had a wiki page on this concept, i'll grab it. Precious Plastic has this to a certain degree and is a good "industry standard"

6:51 PM

Also just mapping non-ose, but relevant organizations/facilities/infastruture

6:51 PM

and feed it asll into an OS g i s

Paul Pham

In case anyone is interested in acquiring Detroit properties to rehab, or empty land for OSE builds / campuses, here is the land bank auction site: https://buildingdetroit.org/properties/auction/ They usually start at $1k, and a house that currently has 4 hours left in the auction is up to $7.3k. The terms are you need to bring it up to code within 6 months, which is doable if it's your full-time job to be the general contractor. Which for a full livable house that you own forever free-and-clear, might be worth it. I'm happy to answer any questions about Detroit, and you're also welcome to come visit our current houses and soak up the do-it-together urban farming vibe in the D

7376 Hanover St 3731 Northwestern St We are tracking our contractors, quotes, and all other work in an open source way on our Trello board. You're welcome to use this information for your own homes. https://trello.com/b/b7zAOUHk/arcology

On this note, i'm currently up in Ashtabula Ohio visiting family, so similar thoughts have been going through my head ! (edited)

Where do people get mix tapes, or discover new music? I rely too much on Spotify, and don't go to shows anymore :/ https://www.datpiff.com/ (edited)

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https://boxden.com (edited)

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What's hot in real time based on the amount of people viewing.

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@pcuci: I had a thought on Quadratic payments after reading that article you linked (ref for all: https://vitalik.ca/general/2019/12/07/quadratic.html) Use quadratic voting to implement an idea and the credit of all peoples votes goes to the person that proposed the idea. If someone proposes a really good idea and delivers on the idea, then they have more influence to spend on other people's ideas. People wouldn't be able to vote for their own ideas. Possibly add negative votes so people can voice that an idea would be harmful. Possibly give everyone a guaranteed income of votes. To prevent the supply of influence expanding over time, you could make the credit for an implemented idea the amount of votes, not the cost of the votes to those that voted. (Someone's 4th vote cost 4x their first vote as normal with quadratic voting, but is only credited to the creator as 1 vote). Then balance the rate of the people's guarenteed income with the aggregated amount of projects being proposed. (edited)

2:57 AM

This way people that contribute the most are rewarded with more influence. The intuition is that people that have better ideas as judged by everyone are better at deciding what good ideas look like. This assumption might not be completely accurate, but I still think it might be a good way to assign influence. I don't know if this solves the "rational ignorance" and "rational irrationality" problems mentioned in the article, but it's a start.

If the person that proposes the idea and the person that implements and idea are not the same, perhaps there's a sane way to split the influence credited by the ideator and the implementor. (Perhaps only give influence credit people that do the implementing to bias a community towards action). (edited)

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https://permies.com/t/15431/Gravel-Pit-Reclamation 12 years later OSE CEB is still the most relevant. weird

Gravel Pit Reclamation (natural building forum at permies)

We are about to be moving to a property that was an old gravel pit. Trying to 'mine' into the bank, putting up supports as I go was another thought, but seems like it would be more work making the space for the building then the actual building, and then how would I collapse it back so it was covering the buildings without causing the whole thin...

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Just incinerated some time in "The Rossman Group" over someone over various political things, i really need to get better about that. Granted i don't know if there is any benefit to spending time trying to help them by pointing out media/filter bubbles and whatnot, probably not. At what point are people too far gone to bring back from radicalization? Too addictive and now i incinerated that time. Truth is dead.

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Speaking the truth in times of universal deceit is a revolutionary act.

8:04 AM

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8:04 AM

During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.

8:04 AM

pick your poison. Informational hot war, which reality is the most realistestesT?

8:05 AM

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8:05 AM

at least everything with OSE is material, mechanical, or based in fundamentals. The very nature of open-sourcing something in it's highest nature is ideally forming the greatest truth

8:06 AM

The best way to do something is the way something should be opensourced

8:06 AM

it's beautiful

8:06 AM

aka, the correct way, aka do it right the first time, aka first principles, aka reality of the univers

Open sourcing is a political act, activism

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pcuci

Open sourcing is a political act, activism

'Open sourcing is a political act, activism' it can be also just practical; having access to the source isn't just convenient for the consuming end but also for the author. From what I've seen a number of times, there is quite a difference between Open-Sourcing and Open-Source. In PreciousPlastic for instance the former seemed to have more of a marketing gag than an actual Open-Source project where you expect issues or problems get solved as soon it's reported. Just saying, having the sources available but no resources taking care to fix the content can render it quickly harmful though as we also have seen a lot in PreciousPlastic

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There is a whole system, including a community and human interactive support and help, testing strategy, roadmap, monthly calls, beyond just releasing the source.

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I notice (also by myself) the "not invented here" syndrome: Instead of investing the time to thoroughly research existing OS solutions and then figuring out how to adapt them (and contribute back), people rather build their own solutions (which end up being undocumented and half-baked)...

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Could be a Feynman thing(?) “What I cannot create, I do not understand” “Know how to solve every problem that has been solved” “I don’t know what’s the matter with people: they don’t learn by understanding; they learn by some other way – by rote or something. Their knowledge is so fragile!”

I think it is also media presence / accessibility of data on various projects etc

7:12 AM

Not necessarily that people are lazy, but by making stuff easy to navigate and have some sort of kind of media presence, it makes the project/work "harder to miss"

7:14 AM

Cultural change might happen too later/be happening. In the 3d printing community, i think checking thingiverse etc pre-loading up some CAD software would be common, but that is just me (no data to back that up really) So a sort of similar thing of "oh i wish there was a way to" / "i'd want to make a thing that does x" -> "let me look and see if anyone else was thinking of this as well"

'I notice (also by myself) the "not invented here" syndrome' : lol - on the other hand you may want to re-write the whole thing from scratch - not just because of license issues within the project or company context but also sometimes there's just crap out there. In NodeJS for instance I wasted a lot of time trying 5+ different implementations and they were all crap; happened actually on a daily base - especially with those 'fast' moving techs; it's outdated tomorrow

Take for instance forum software: currently, you are better off going for the best supported code and solution, eg: Discourse but unfortunately you won't be able to extend or adopt it to your needs per se since you will end up with some 'hacks' you have to maintain from update to update. That can be simple things as changing the built-in editor or data models. It's just not made for changes

Luckily, extension points / plugin systems get you over the most ... I've seen also lot's of projects as Wordpress, Joomla being afraid to break things - so folks go their own way - I like that too

Bigger and complex software is often very tight coupled - often for performance or other heavy reasons. 'Loose coupled' is something ideal but not the practice and I've seen the idea often rejected in big firms - as penalty we can't collaborate or extend so easily.

11:48 PM

But great - all those guys - big or small rely all on things as zLib or sort/search algorithms which won't change forever though as much some students take it for a challenge to improve, almost as sport

For the interested reader, please have a look at some of the big cases, eg Google vs Oracle : http://www.groklaw.net/articlebasic.php?story=20130213000119924 (Java fork for Android). Reads like a good bed time thriller but also shows how badly innovation and progress is pretty much fu**** up not just by laws and patents but also just stupidity, no matter the scale

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Another example for instance - and sorry to come back to it but we're doing it fulltime - In PreciousPlastic for instance we also thought, hey - let's get hands dirty and build cool things; but at the end most of our and other contributions got under the bus or just deleted by people who apparently hostage the project for own interests or just do it for fashion - no idea but we couldn't see our or others interests being put first - so yeah - back to square one and write it as we need it ... happens all the time anywhere

Let's see what works best - good to have options though

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Reaching full GVCS machine index completion, with all static content, blueprints, videos, code, etc... I think that alone would be huge for humankind, even if nothing else existed around it. I am a-okay with any contributors not doing long-term, ongoing, community-focused support and such. If, say, you're an engineering/creator type, not big on socializing, no marketing, miss meetings, didn't show up, didn't send out the thing... but you make progress on a GVCS machine for OSE, and uploaded it? Oh man, that's beyond wonderful. I'm even okay with a Theo de Raadt of OpenBSD style situation if it came to it, being iffy and strict on contributions.

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Paul P.

There is a whole system, including a community and human interactive support and help, testing strategy, roadmap, monthly calls, beyond just releasing the source.

(In response to this mainly, woopsie)

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Sure, there is great technical brilliance in completing the index. I just mean, to achieve full potential of helping as many people as possible, will require equal talent and work on communicating with the public and some amount of product thinking. We had a Linux operating system long before RedHat and Ximian came along, and I don't think Linus needed the commercial success of it to keep going, but it definitely helps. It was unusual of VA Linux to gift him a contribution, and to the Linux Foundation, when they went public.

https://gpdmcc.com/OSE+Home (Published "Obsidian.md" page - no new updates yet but heyy, custom domain + specifying page works, I likey!)

OSE Home

@Nohbdy Ahtall - why obsidian? (isn't it private?) came across https://github.com/Zettlr/Zettlr and https://joplinapp.org/ a long time inspiartion being: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZigZag_(software) wish the three worked together

Zettlr/Zettlr

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Joplin

Jopli website

ZigZag (software)

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@pcuci has reached level 7. GG!

Ayye, Ted Nelson and Xanadu - yeah I've been looking into knowledge management tools for a while, trying all kinds of weird things including CRM-like stuff, self-hosted, etc. It looks like when going over other opinions on Obsidian, I mostly find this abstract thing: "It just feels right". I also used Dynalist as almost the only tool for organization when Workflowy and all else failed for me, and they built Dynalist. Maybe it's comfort in knowing if they made Dynalist that good, I know their next product is going to make the right moves too.

5:28 PM

Also weirdly, as someone who hates paying for anything... I really enjoy the Obsidian Publish method of basically having a website with such ease. Most of my website ideas involve some kind of complex knowledge management system too, so this kinda just does that in clicks. Now that mobile version is out, even though I use my phone for nothing much(it used to be note taking into Dynalist) I've been waiting to record info in-the-moment in an Obsidian way as I do on the computer.

@Nohbdy Ahtall remembered: https://github.com/Zettlr/Zettlr/pull/921#issuecomment-751152324

Added graph visualization of notes by JulienMir · Pull Request #921...

Description I really wanted the graphical view of the note network so I added it. By selecting the button on the toolbar, a dialog pops up and displays a network of notes. Each note is represented ...

5:44 PM

funny thing is that the Zettler maintainer and community seem totally oblivious to visualizing knowledge... (different culture in the humanities?) (edited)

Hey, so I joined some random law/legal server in attemp to gain legal-ish opinions on the things(as much as I can tell none of them want to do that xD) I'm working on. I thought I'd copy it here if anyone has opinions on the matter (it's an "introduction" post). --- (edited)

5:11 AM

Hello! I am a founder of a game programming club (online/virtual only, not related to any pre-existing entity) and have been long-designing it. Since we'll be creating software as well as art, assets, and other content, I keep my mind on legal situations. Currently, I am focusing on observing the CC0 license (and also keeping in mind BSD-like, MIT, ISC, and similar licenses - but CC0 works more obviously for non-code), and basically making an even more permissive license(or less). Option A would be simply including "trademark" and "patent" rights to be waived. Option B would be including "trademark" but explicitly refusing patents at all. Option C can be either A or B, but stating that "if" we(holders of the license/code/asset) discover or reverse engineer any hidden content you've made with the license, we have the permission to use it under this same license and are able to distribute and modify it under the licence's terms(This is kinda GPL-ish, except instead of forcing others to stay open, we protect ourselves from accidentally or purposefully including derivatives down the line, be them proprietary, patented, trade secret, and so on. They can try to keep it hidden, but if it's out, it's ours/anyone's). Also looking into legal aspects of moderation (or lack of it) regarding my club. For example, the club has no Discord or anything yet - for as much as I'd love to leave the place open and unmoderated, this apparently is simply not allowed legally, as I or the platform will be at fault. However, I don't trust people as moderators either, and so I'm looking for a partially-autonomous system plus human moderators, and a way for the community to "moderate the moderators" as well, in a direct-democratic kinda way or similar. Really good kick/ban appeal systems too, and ways to blacklist or publicize mis-moderation incidents. Hope to brainstorm some ideas on the matter! (edited)

Nohbdy Ahtall

Hello! I am a founder of a game programming club (online/virtual only, not related to any pre-existing entity) and have been long-designing it. Since we'll be creating software as well as art, assets, and other content, I keep my mind on legal situations. Currently, I am focusing on observing the CC0 license (and also keeping in mind BSD-like, MIT, ISC, and similar licenses - but CC0 works more obviously for non-code), and basically making an even more permissive license(or less). Option A would be simply including "trademark" and "patent" rights to be waived. Option B would be including "trademark" but explicitly refusing patents at all. Option C can be either A or B, but stating that "if" we(holders of the license/code/asset) discover or reverse engineer any hidden content you've made with the license, we have the permission to use it under this same license and are able to distribute and modify it under the licence's terms(This is kinda GPL-ish, except instead of forcing others to stay open, we protect ourselves from accidentally or purposefully including derivatives down the line, be them proprietary, patented, trade secret, and so on. They can try to keep it hidden, but if it's out, it's ours/anyone's). Also looking into legal aspects of moderation (or lack of it) regarding my club. For example, the club has no Discord or anything yet - for as much as I'd love to leave the place open and unmoderated, this apparently is simply not allowed legally, as I or the platform will be at fault. However, I don't trust people as moderators either, and so I'm looking for a partially-autonomous system plus human moderators, and a way for the community to "moderate the moderators" as well, in a direct-democratic kinda way or similar. Really good kick/ban appeal systems too, and ways to blacklist or publicize mis-moderation incidents. Hope to brainstorm some ideas on the matter! (edited)

https://steemit.com/ communities seem to be able to self-rrgulate just fine I'm not sure I understand your legal concern, if you care about equity and fairness, why not go for a post-f/loss license? https://ethicalsource.dev/

Steemit

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Art can be NFT'd nowadays, which would remove the need to understand ancient legal systems in favour of understanding smart contracts and crypto: exchange of problems for problems

I am glad to have another recommendation for a decentralized tech, it's been a while since I looked into it since I was feeling flooded with options hah. I recently noticed certain open source entities feeling "at war" with ethical source (even though admittedly I've had this ethical-source idea in my head for a long time as well). Primarily though my issue isn't preventing people from using/modifying/selling/lacking-attribution/etc, which is why option A(What MD0 seems to do). However, still confused on the idea of if I make X and someone patents stuff with X in it, potentially hurting my/others own progress on it(for legal reasons, not out-pacing reasons).

7:40 AM

Which is why Option B: Disallow Patents, or Option C: Make anything made down the line available to anyone up-the-line, if it is found/leaked/reverse-engineered/etc.

7:43 AM

(Er, not "make available" as in licensee has to put in effort, but "legally allowed to make available" so if we do, we're legally safe)

Nohbdy Ahtall

I am glad to have another recommendation for a decentralized tech, it's been a while since I looked into it since I was feeling flooded with options hah. I recently noticed certain open source entities feeling "at war" with ethical source (even though admittedly I've had this ethical-source idea in my head for a long time as well). Primarily though my issue isn't preventing people from using/modifying/selling/lacking-attribution/etc, which is why option A(What MD0 seems to do). However, still confused on the idea of if I make X and someone patents stuff with X in it, potentially hurting my/others own progress on it(for legal reasons, not out-pacing reasons).

To my understanding, patents need 3 things to be awarded by competent governments:

no prior art, novelty
usefulness, utility, this probably needs at least a working proof of concept, not just an idea on paper
newness to a professional in the field

7:46 AM

(I have my name to a patent, which to this day I don't understand how we got, because anyone of my colleagues could guess what was written in there [that proved to me the patent office doesn't know what it's doing])

Indeed, and originally I was thinking the first point (prior art) would be enough. As in, if my thing exists beforehand, we're safe. However I seemed to be finding mention that just existing wasn't good enough, it had to be closer to "being known" to some degree. Our stuff might be in obscurity forever, but have proof of existing beforehand.

hop on google patents and look up highview power

7:48 AM

they have dozens of patents on things that were theorized in the american civil war

7:48 AM

they just re-wrote it in "Patanese" https://patents.google.com/?q=power&assignee=Highview+Enterprises+Limited (edited)

Google Patents

Search and read the full text of patents from around the world with Google Patents, and find prior art in our index of non-patent literature.

I wonder if they could have done it if those theorized ideas had a "not allowed to patent" stamp on 'em. That's why I'm thinking option B. However - as much as I want patents to not exist(I think), I mostly just want to protect what is made from those with patents from affecting what is made under this license.

Nohbdy Ahtall

Indeed, and originally I was thinking the first point (prior art) would be enough. As in, if my thing exists beforehand, we're safe. However I seemed to be finding mention that just existing wasn't good enough, it had to be closer to "being known" to some degree. Our stuff might be in obscurity forever, but have proof of existing beforehand.

Original to people versed in the craft; that means nonobvious to the experts who could have thought of it but didn't Many times in history same scientific discoveries were made by different people in different parts of the world; we're all building on the shoulders of Giants, a lot of shared context exists

Nohbdy Ahtall

I wonder if they could have done it if those theorized ideas had a "not allowed to patent" stamp on 'em. That's why I'm thinking option B. However - as much as I want patents to not exist(I think), I mostly just want to protect what is made from those with patents from affecting what is made under this license.

I think you may be confusing patents with licenses(?)

7:56 AM

My understanding is that real material things/objects can't be licensed, only the designs to create them can. But real things can be pattented (edited)

Yes I mean I intend to make software, art, games, simulations, tools, and so on under a super permissive license. I want that license to mention patents(even though I know this is weird in software world, but does happen it seems), so that it either allows the patent and our stuff to co-exist, or for the patent to not exist. If possible I'd totally apply this license, fitting or not, to any possible real creations our club makes as well. Try to be like an anti-patent troll, pre-inventing the crap outta stuff before others can claim it xP

"for the patent to not exist" is covered by the prior art rule

8:00 AM

Just save a copy of your files on the web, or better yet, hash it, tack it to a blockchain, and only show it when a patent gets awarded to an idea you came up before

8:01 AM

You can use the cryptographic proof as proof to the judge when you fight the awarded patent

The problem I'm hearing about is that the terms "publicly known" for the prior art rule, is weird - I'm seeing explanations that having this kind of proof isn't enough always, even if it's posted to the internet. It's as if it needs some kind of weird "threshold" of being publicly known, mentioning things like demonstrations, magazine articles, etc. I'll try to see if I can find any example of something proven to exist nicely before a patent, but it wasn't "known" enough and therefore the patent was allowed.

pcuci

Just save a copy of your files on the web, or better yet, hash it, tack it to a blockchain, and only show it when a patent gets awarded to an idea you came up before

Nah, a judge will decide

8:04 AM

The rules are there for guidance, at the end of the day, you need to convince the judge when you dispute a patent (edited)

8:06 AM

Remember that a startup's valuation goes past $1M once they have a patent, so there is huge incentive to create shitty patents

8:07 AM

An awarded patent means nothing in terms of it being defensible; a fake kind of "quality control"

8:09 AM

Plus, the patent lawyers I interacted with didn't understand what was written in the patent, they were not software engineers; and in Europe software patents don't even exist

8:10 AM

Most startups seem to use "patent" and "patent pending" as marketing hype to generate clueless investor interest - any serious investor that does their due diligence would at least read the patent and form an independent opinion of their own (edited)

Indeed, alas this is why I'm worried about Option A, which is just like CC0 except it adds:

   v. trademark rights;
  vi. patent rights;

into the list of rights to be waived as mentioned:

2. Waiver. To the greatest extent permitted by, but not in contravention
of, applicable law, Affirmer hereby overtly, fully, permanently,
irrevocably and unconditionally waives, abandons, and surrenders all of
Affirmer's Copyright and Related Rights

... etc.

8:14 AM

Which is why I'm unsure if it's unwise to allow this explicit waiver, or to explicitly deny it. CC0 just doesn't talk about it(nor trademark)

8:16 AM

I'm willing to crazily allow the stuff I make to be patented or trademarked(even if that doesn't make sense on the other user's end to do so) - I just don't want them coming back at me/us legally in any form, causing projects and art and such to be at risk.

They can sue you, and a competent judge would throw the lawsuit out of court; we all have the right to sue :-)

Hehe, ahh well thank you so much for this perspective - I definitely haven't heard much of anyone's opinion on this matter. Thank you - of course I won't take it as legal advice so no worries haha

assuming they don't do business in a specific province, and so you go to the courts in that province, which are paid off/bribed by the patent holder

8:18 AM

but those are edge cases

Trademarks and servicemarks work similarly to patents(?) You can't create a McDonad's clone use the same look and feel, and experience; that would be confusing to consumers (edited)

It's strange yes, as I want GPD (my game programming club) to be usable as a "template" of sorts. In the end there may never be a single, centralized GPD, but rather an assortment of copycats and mimics - which I am totally cool with, and I want to allow it. (edited)

8:21 AM

The club itself, not just the code and assets, but the governance methods, processes, ideas, all of it - I want it all super-permissively free, just not in a way that it can be "locked down" legally later on.

Well, isn't NodeJS trademarked?

8:21 AM

Isn't OSE trademarked?

8:22 AM

I think the GNU logo is explicitly not trademarked

Ooh la la I might need to look into GNU's again, hmm..

if you're ok with people using your graphical assets, then release those to public domain(?)

8:24 AM

https://choosealicense.com/

Choose an open source license

Non-judgmental guidance on choosing a license for your open source project

I heard sending straight to public domain has some problems, and that's why I look to CC0 - which it pretty much is a public domain granting license, but with extra protection from those default public domain problems.

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8:25 AM

8:26 AM

I guess those problems are somewhat mentioned in https://creativecommons.org/share-your-work/public-domain/cc0/ under "The Problem"

nathan

CC0 - Creative Commons

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https://choosealicense.com/licenses/unlicense/ ?

The Unlicense

A license with no conditions whatsoever which dedicates works to the public domain. Unlicensed works, modifications, and larger works may be distributed under different terms and without source code.

I started on that one for sure. The other reason I had to reach for CC0 though is that my favorite licenses mention this as "Software". However, I want to put this licenst on art, characters, dialogue, storylines, diagrams, sound effects, melodies, character traits, etc. Everything other than code as well.

Unfortunately the systems we inhabit are not designed for freedom: https://choosealicense.com/no-permission/

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Nohbdy Ahtall

I started on that one for sure. The other reason I had to reach for CC0 though is that my favorite licenses mention this as "Software". However, I want to put this licenst on art, characters, dialogue, storylines, diagrams, sound effects, melodies, character traits, etc. Everything other than code as well.

Yeah, you'll need multiple licenses most likely; not just one code-friendly or assets-friendly: https://choosealicense.com/non-software/ (edited)

Non-Software Licenses

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The CC0's big points are that, even in countries where they don't recognize what's being given up, they have a clear:

Should any part of the License for any reason be judged legally invalid or ineffective under applicable law, such partial invalidity or ineffectiveness shall not invalidate the remainder of the License

Which has actual lawyers say "This is well-made legally" and such.

8:33 AM

In fact I think another big point for CC0 is that it has a better track record for doing its job in court I believe, in comparison to others that may have not been battle-tested at all yet

Yeah, but lawyers aren't judges; they're just guessing here

8:34 AM

They hope the text is portable to multiple countries, but the evidence for that is actual prior won-lost lawsuits. Study those (edited)

Nohbdy Ahtall

In fact I think another big point for CC0 is that it has a better track record for doing its job in court I believe, in comparison to others that may have not been battle-tested at all yet

I don't trust any word of that sentence :-)

Oh yeah I guess I was looking at this regarding what I thought were cases: https://www.rd-alliance.org/sites/default/files/cc0-analysis-kreuzer.pdf

Validity of the Creative Commons Zero 1.0 Universal Public Domain Dedication and its usability for bibliographic metadata from
the perspective of German Copyright Law

Easy to test

8:38 AM

You can sue me, take me to court, and we'll play out a scenario you care about

8:39 AM

This is how we create "prior art" for the legal system to function better

Hmm it does appear that Creative Common's cases are... well they're CC licenses but not CC0 specific haha: https://legaldb.creativecommons.org/cases/?keywords= (edited)

CC Legal Database

This database contains case law and legal scholarship about CC licenses and the issues that relate to their enforceability and interpretation.

We can set a precedent (edited)

8:41 AM

But just because 1 judge may agree with us doesn't stop anyone else to appeal; and so the story goes :-) (edited)

8:43 AM

I prefer Ethereum smart contracts where the "interpreter" is the python programming language (or whatever), and not human lawyers and judges ;-)

(Woops btw earlier I said CC0 doesn't mention trademark/patent, it does:

 a. No trademark or patent rights held by Affirmer are waived, abandoned,
    surrendered, licensed or otherwise affected by this document.

)

8:44 AM

Gwahh I totally agree with that! I've been wanting automated and/or code-instead-of-English lawmaking for... since I was a kid and discovered programming! Hah

8:45 AM

I just haven't made up my mind about the middle-men yet - the language, the Ethereum-specificness - etc. Definitely in my top favorites, but.... heh

Nohbdy Ahtall

Gwahh I totally agree with that! I've been wanting automated and/or code-instead-of-English lawmaking for... since I was a kid and discovered programming! Hah

So did the DAO people. CC: @Paul P. ;-) Turns out they lost to the "Vitalik be king" crowd that forked Ethereum Classic (edited)

I've always wanted Mesh Networking + Smart Contracts/DAO + Renewable Energy. Need enough mesh nodes though of course heh

Just pointing out the obvious: The patent system is completely broken. IMHO, the best you can do is put everything you do in the open because this at least prevents others from claiming it as a patent themselves. (If a big player decides to start patent litigation against you, you have already lost even if their claim is nonsense.) On the ligher side: https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn2178-boy-takes-swing-at-us-patents/

Boy takes swing at US patents

A patent for swinging sideways on a child's swing is awarded – a "legalistic definition of obviousness" may be why

pcuci

Most startups seem to use "patent" and "patent pending" as marketing hype to generate clueless investor interest - any serious investor that does their due diligence would at least read the patent and form an independent opinion of their own (edited)

Also, a reminder that "patent pending" is pretty snake oily. You are legally allowed to claim patent pending when you submit a provisional patent application, which is a document that basically "holds your place" until you get around to filing officially. The application isn't examined or verified by any expert or official. It's just a signifier of "a filled out a form and paid $65"

1:32 PM

But kind of stated above, as with many things in the US law, there's no real fool-proof safeguard when it comes down to a judge making a decision. Lawyers get paid lots of money to reinforce your case in your favor, because nothing is given and nothing is absolute.

1:34 PM

Only real safeguard for keeping stuff not-patented is trying to make sure what you have is public and well documented, so that if litigation comes, you have the best case to show for existing prior art.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Jwo5qc78QU

Tom Scott

YouTube's Copyright System Isn't Broken. The World's Is.

7:07 PM

copyright is even dumber than patent law IMO

7:07 PM

I think some form of documentation of "first mention" / who came up with it, and just people not supporting assholes who steal ideas should work ?

7:09 PM

I feel like it is almost unenforceable to prevent copyright infringement/pirating etc, short of some sort of HEAVILY government internet, and portable data storage (hard drives, thumb drives etc) not existing. (edited)

People always say internet outrage has too much power etc, and i say just use that as some sort check/balance on the risk/issue of copyright/patent infringement

Indeed - however I'm still wondering about my dilemma of "waiving all my patent rights" versus "stating that you may not patent this idea". Don't you think there's a little more "oomph" involved if, not only did it exist prior and was documented, but it said "You're not given permission for patent". And perhaps a little less if I say "I waive all patent rights".

i guess formal liscence wise, isn't there the FLOSS one, with the must attribute thing?

11:28 PM

I may not understand how much you should attribute it, but my desire would be like scientific papers, just a proper mention and whatnot

Nohbdy Ahtall

Indeed - however I'm still wondering about my dilemma of "waiving all my patent rights" versus "stating that you may not patent this idea". Don't you think there's a little more "oomph" involved if, not only did it exist prior and was documented, but it said "You're not given permission for patent". And perhaps a little less if I say "I waive all patent rights".

That presupposes you have a patent to begin with(?)

Eric Lotze

I may not understand how much you should attribute it, but my desire would be like scientific papers, just a proper mention and whatnot

Lol: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stigler%27s_law_of_eponymy

Stigler%27s_law_of_eponymy

I am on the path of no attribution actually, literally zero work to copy my stuff licensed under this. That law right there, I admittedly would not want my name attributed to any great discovery - I wouldn't find it fitting, useful, and I simply don't want it. I don't believe much in credit, and it's not like I expect to convince others to give out creditless tools... the only way to carve that path is to start it with a license/waiver and then start churning out the tools myself. I thought I could waive my own patent rights ahead of time, as in "I'm not going to patent this, so if you use this code/art/etc, I can't patent it and risk your derived works"?

Nohbdy Ahtall

I am on the path of no attribution actually, literally zero work to copy my stuff licensed under this. That law right there, I admittedly would not want my name attributed to any great discovery - I wouldn't find it fitting, useful, and I simply don't want it. I don't believe much in credit, and it's not like I expect to convince others to give out creditless tools... the only way to carve that path is to start it with a license/waiver and then start churning out the tools myself. I thought I could waive my own patent rights ahead of time, as in "I'm not going to patent this, so if you use this code/art/etc, I can't patent it and risk your derived works"?

That's the default behaviour if you publicly post your inventions Note that the document that describes the potentially pattentable thing is under your authorship, by default all rights reserved to you; it sounded like you wanted that too to be released into the public domain (which is not the default behaviour, and why I think your CC0 license idea makes sense if that's what you were aiming for) (edited)

Indeed I am aiming for maximum rights-giving-up-ness xP (Also oops I misinterpreted that Law, thought it was just the act of being named after, not the mis-crediting hah) I'm starting to re-lean towards explicitly rejecting trademarking and patenting, for myself and derivative works. It might not do anything, but I feel it'd help in case someone tried to trademark, say, a free piece of art, and then come after my original they used, stating it messes with their trademark. I think looking at my license for it, which exists before their trademark, would have some help.

--- Update regarding the work on a CC0 modified/upgraded license that takes a stance on trademark/patent: Originally, it was to waive those rights so that the person releasing under that license couldn't trademark/patent. Creative Commons wants the ability for trademark to co-exist eith CC0, I do not. So, now the decision is: (1)Explicitly state that the affirmer disallows trademarking & patenting, both for self and any derivatives -- or (2)explicitly state that work or derivatives are not allowed to be targetted by trademark and patent claims, which kinda ruins trademark/patent anyway since anyone can "fork" the content from this license as a safe haven. It makes trademark/patenting useless and likely prone to denial for those asking. However, patents do happen on things that are "prior art", so #2 might protect moreso in case of that.

Why not release your content anonymously? @Nohbdy Ahtall I'd like to see a judge wrap their heads around that ;-) Satoshi did very well pseudonymously releasing his code and no-doubt patentable invention to the world (edited)

@pcuci has reached level 8. GG!

I do plan on doing that actually, and I just got word from an IPR lawyer that public domain (which is what CC0 is mostly), doesn't need an author. However, most open source license templates have the ol LICENSE <copyright year> <copyright holder> thing. Even CC0 doesn't have that (benefits of not caring about attribution I'd assume)

4:57 PM

Truly this content may be released out into the wild, under any unknown account. Just the content, and that license will exist.

Maybe, to think of this another way, what are viruses and malware released under? ;-)

Was also just talking to someone about the academic publishing world too, saying:

I wonder how academic journals would react to an explosion of people publishing research under the license I speak of. On one hand, they could re-release it on their own, but they couldn't enforce much I'd imagine. What if they were out-paced by it too. I know a bit of the logic behind their proprietary-like mindset - so that there's some kind of "authority" and copycats with maybe false info don't drown it out. Buut... what if... I still feel like having their "stamp of approval" still would matter and help a lot.

5:00 PM

As per usual, anything not released under anything has a bunch of "default/automatic" rights set to it. They become copyright holder, or even if it's default public domain, it is treated as a "gift" that the owner can apparently "take back" if desired, which is why CC0 renounces that ability.

5:02 PM

I'd think academic research and such can thrive well and fine without an author, attribution, and even under this license with copycats making misinformed changes. It's still up to the curators and hosters of that content, and for people to trust the hosts of the research and their stamp of approval.

@Nohbdy Ahtall has reached level 13. GG!

I actually kinda worry about Open Science which released even under CC0(unlikely, most people can't fathom not being attributed, so probably CC BY-something-something), since the iffy trademark/patent thing.

It's ingrained in that system; I don't think one can become a PhD without an advisor - there is always this nagging link back the the "cult"

Mm, I wanna make a new cult of super-permissive, selfless(and maybe even anonymous like you said) technological progress. Flood the marketplace, the scientific world, and everywhere - so much free info, art, code, blueprints... all from volunteers, businesses can't keep up, even if they copy-paste one of the free bits, the volunteers still improve their tech faster than any closed-source fork could.

5:10 PM

I assume it'd be deemed "anti-competitive" and there'd then be laws against this movement hah. A turning point choice between dystopia and otherwise. xP (edited)

Isn't that the default anyway, even with the current system, but on longer timescales? Both patents and copyright expire

5:22 PM

So you don't mind if the army or a terrorist uses your contributions to go off and kill people? (re: permissive) (edited)

I don't mind, especially as I feel like military forces can get away with bypassing legal systems anyhow. I think open everything leads to everyone being able to understand their technology - a proprietary bomb or weapon is harder to defend against, defuse, counter, and so on if it is obfuscated by proprietarism.

5:29 PM

Also leading towards a more tech-savvy world - more programmers/creators over users/consumers. This in turn also I believe leads to greater intelligence, which hopefully takes hold as the leading "currency" over monetary. And in my opinion, greater intelligence for everyone (especially with that motivation to gain it as much as people have for gaining money - a drop-in replacement) reduces evil. I find that intelligence of everyone reduces evil. A world of evil geniuses keep each-other in check. Moreso though, I just feel like true intelligence leads the mind towards non-evil. It's something I've pondered for a long time - every path, including the most violent, they all "make sense", but nowhere near as much as going as extremely non-violent, non-torturous, and so on.

5:30 PM

I also believe technological solutions can prevent misuse of technology, automated/built-in. I wouldn't trust closed-source to properly handle that, I'd trust open source to ensure and test and fix the problems.

I actually have a lot of sci-fi-esque ideas about "reverse-lethal weapons" and such, and the idea of proving to the world that even a "war" could be won equipped entirely with reverse- and non-lethal methods, up against a fully lethal one.

In the event that that happens, I would believe/hope that the next war might involve even more reverse-lethality, due to the lack of death commited by the users of it from the last one. I'd assume it may then become a rule of war, and even later down the line lead the ultimately us only ever resolving conflicts in safe simulated environments if needed.

Reverse-lethal being something as crazy as this(very sci-fi, requiring likely advanced autonomous tech, nanobots, extremely fast micro-construction, etc):
A projectile that, similar to a net-gun/sticky-glue, encompasses a target, but also immediately builds airways, repoistions the target safely, and then quickly builds an "interface" for them to communicate to the system itself.
The target can communicate with the system to ensure it handles special cases that the system didn't detect - say they are choking, poisoned, rigged to explode, uncomfortable, etc. They are basically given a little computer on the spot.
The system would also try to build a mobilizing structure in order to move the target out of harms way, in case they're in the middle of a street, heading underwater, etc. It may even allow mobility and vision to the target to manually do so, interfering if they appear to be fleeing, going hostile.

... This continually gets potentially advanced. The reverse lethal part of this would be that the system actively heals you, cures diseases even, acting as a mobile medbay of sorts. It may even defend itself, even against the intial "shooter", if it detects they have intent to harm you in your immobile state. It's of course on the level of sci-fi, but from anywhere from reality/plausible to this level of extreme, I think should be aimed for. (edited)

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pcuci

So did the DAO people. CC: @Paul P. ;-) Turns out they lost to the "Vitalik be king" crowd that forked Ethereum Classic (edited)

Well, the original DAO, "The DAO" was premature in hindsight, but laid the ground for modern technology and security best practices, and also the need for community values. The flawed implementation doesn't mean it's a bad idea, just incomplete in it's current formulation. 1hive and metagame are DAOs that currently crowdfund smaller proposals every week, and in general are focused more on culture creation and collaboration than crowdfunding. They still feel a little insular and self-referential in the digital realm, but are like spaceships compared to the horse-and-buggy of the original DAO.

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Looks like "defensive publishing" is the ultimate anti/preventing-patentability option for my license. I couldn't fathom telling a licensee to "defensively publish", buut... I think I can say the Affirmer(Licensor / person who marks a work as this license) is allowed to defensively publish any subsequent works. Now to see if there is a defensive publishing similar concept for preventing trademarks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NY8Rv6PaXVI S p a c e L a w

Johnny Harris

The Space Border That Could Seal Us on Earth

7:54 AM

On another sidenote i wonder if channels such as this etc could become a fix to the [https://www.vox.com/2018/10/23/18004478/hack-gap-explained "hack gap" ] / public discourse / narrative control etc (edited)

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Maybe we can clutter the atmosphere so densely that, once you reach this border, you enter a new phase of launch where you pull your ship through the debris using friction and its weight to thrust through... er.. at the detriment to the pieces that fly down to earth.

5:54 PM

---(License stuff again..)--- World is so greedy.. or search engines don't highlight ethical people/questions/debates enough(or maybe all the cool-thinking people who'd progress our world have no internet access... grr). Looking up "anti-trademark" is hard, it's all about stopping people from using your trademark, not stopping something from being trademarked. Common Law trademark apparently has a "prior use" similarity, but you have to be.. engaged in commerce with the mark? Whaa, no option for anti-monetary thinking? I wonder if accepting donations or pay-what-you-want counts as commerce, even if you make no money, for protection. Grr. Glad I found "defensive publishing" for preventing patents though, and it seems like I can definitely enforce contracts via a license saying licensees can't enforce patent claims and such against other licensees nor licencors. Thaank you contract law. (edited)

Contract law overrides missing local government laws when local governments didn't get to the specific thing you want to enforce That means you can dream up any new thing in any new domain for which laws don't exist, and the judges will uphold the contract you got other people to sign, since there is nothing else to fall back on Provided they are not corrupt judges ;-) (edited)

Oh my dear goodness... why did I never realize this....... Copyright expires... I think that means, lots of open source licenses... expire. Which means, all the faults I'm finding for a PDM (Public Domain Mark) instead of dedicating it to public domain via CC0... it's just gonna happen.

6:54 AM

I mean most templates for licenses literally have the "Insert your copyright information here at the top". Blimey bloo'y 'ell mate. (edited)

Correction: PDM is not the default Public Domain.. thing/state. It's the logo, from CC, for marking as such. Which if interested, has this comparison chart: https://wiki.creativecommons.org/wiki/CC0_PDM_comparison_chart However, I do think some of this kinda still applies in a way, as well as the non-waiving of other rights that CC0 explicitly gets into. I still don't have a name for "default/expiratory Public Domain" then I guess, and I probably need to say "U.S. Public Domain" too. Still, CC0 adds more protections to worldwide territories, which may not recognize Public Domain whatsoever, by saying partial invalidation doesn't invalidate the rest, and that its concepts should be held up to the maximum potential of the law in that territory. Fluctuating, but better than nothing! (edited)

CC0 PDM comparison chart

Just got a buunch of new (or refreshed) ideas, some real good considerations about my "license quest" hah. I want(ed?) super-permissive, though I respect copyleft and ethical source on a case-by-case basis... but I've been given some good reason to consider things like leftcopy ( https://leftcopy.org/ ) and certain other ethical-like licenses. If I do decide to "deny the big business world", sounds like some of these might say something like "If you make this much money or more, you don't get the same rights...) I think. I otherwise thought, maybe if I only allow donationware and pay-what-you-want(including nothing).. it's something I want to do in the midst of maximum permissive, but hmm. Ah well, goodnight for now! Lots to think about...

Why Leftcopy?

Social domain licensing for The People!

Ahh, so this is something called "Social Domain" rather than Public Domain. Hmm, hmm

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Hey heyy, so I'm getting closer to perhaps the CC0 upgrade that I want. Check the diff between CC0(1.0) and MD0(0.4) here: https://editor.mergely.com/9nbezPtc/ The new section 5 letter "a." is modified, the big change but basically using what CC uses on their "policies" page on their site regarding their Chapter Logo. I think... if they think those words are enough, and they are also proficient in legalese/license making... then I feel comfy using nearly the same thing.

8:23 AM

(A faction from Sid Meier's Alpha )

WHEW, okay um, side project... I found big ol list of intellectual property items in general and uh... so MD0 is still is its own thing.. but check out the greatly expanded MD9000: https://editor.mergely.com/8mnOiLE7/ (edited)

I'm dealing with IRC and I really don't see the reasoning behind it. No chat history, weirdly places are always dead despite hundreds online, message "nickserv" a password that doesn't seem to allow hiding your input feels... ehhh

6:47 AM

Oh and other randos knowing your IP address. I still vote for Discord and so on!

Nohbdy Ahtall

Oh and other randos knowing your IP address. I still vote for Discord and so on!

Did you check out "matrix" or whatever that alternative was?

I have not, I suppose I shoould... try it out right now! (Trying to contact the OpenBSD community, their Discord is... non-functioning... I think they have a matrix) (edited)

i'll grab the page (if i made one, may be a false memory)

6:54 AM

nah matrix was the backbone i guess

6:54 AM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matrix_(protocol)

Matrix (protocol)

Matrix (sometimes stylized as [matrix]) is an open standard and communication protocol for real-time communication. It aims to make real-time communication work seamlessly between different service providers, in the way that standard Simple Mail Transfer Protocol email currently does for store-and-forward email service, by allowing users with ac...

6:56 AM

https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Element_(Software)

Element (Software)

6:56 AM

that was it

I have a feeling everyone's still going to refer to it as "What's your matrix" even if it's a backbone haha, whether they like it or not. Is there another word for "X's [thing] that uses matrix"?

no idea, this is out of my area as of now

6:57 AM

granted i am an acronym / term used snob enthusiast/snob lol

Found this after someone sent it to me, and i like it: (edited)

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@Eric Lotze - nice catch (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4gGWufoIYI) and motivated me to finish the long over due extruder on the arbor

material bill : 1.5k - 2k - assuming you have the equipment

there was somewhere another crazy big portable extruder gun on youtube - fun stuff ...

Action BOX

DIY Plastic Injection Machine - Faster than 3D printing

Dunno if anyone needs this, but a program called "ZeroTier", when installed on two devices, acts as a "hole-punched" network. So... if you have any cool at-home network stuff, and you'd love to access it remotely without exposing IP addresses or whatever... hazing ZeroTier lets you work with those devices as if you were at home on the same wifi network, in terms of IP access and such.

4:39 AM

Really helped me as a beginner too, as I understood more easily how to connect from computer A to computer B on the same network at home due to the IP pattern, so this just kept that up and kinda side-stepped some obstacles.

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https://www.engadget.com/intel-realsense-shutdown-211525552.html

Intel is giving up on its AI-powered RealSense cameras | Engadget

Intel is closing its RealSense camera business to focus on its chip manufacturing efforts, although the technology won't disappear..

9:51 PM

Will they sell the IP to some other company, or could they potentially Open Source it? I would assume it's mainly software based, and just the dual cameras and IR emitter, right? key word is assume though (edited)

probably too much for them to bite off, trying to get everything to work better/faster/easier to program for/easier for the ML to figure out whats going on. So upside is limited on the hardware side, and intel's shaking after ryzen, nobody expected them to get their stuff together after the bulldozer proccessors fx series

10:09 PM

Plus tesla is making their own chips, so intel is starting to get into murky waters

10:09 PM

------

10:10 PM

you have geohotz trying to tame the next architecture too so cutting side projects makes sense

I just hope it doesn't fall into that graveyard of "things we developed, sold, then killed, but didn't sell the ip"

10:21 PM

I think i made a page on it somewhere, but Google actually open sourced their VR Painting software "Tilt Brush" rather than just killing it

"you can't take the IP with you when you're dead"

10:21 PM

if only

Granted that was only software

10:22 PM

but i would *assume * a lot of the "secret sauce" is in how they turn the stereoscopic cameras + ir emitter into a depth map and how they send that data around etc

https://youtu.be/Fpqa5mcHoTE

Paul McWhorter

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11:39 PM

If you want will get a link for a man that explains ai in an understandable way. With or without Nvidia Jetson nano. Surprise on me it's above

I think terminology needs to become a norm for this kind of thinking. I so far like to call it "Last Resort" open source licensing for the idea of failure of the company/project/etc results in the code being released. I also like the idea of "we've made enough money now" open source planning hah, kinda like if I made a video game... if it was proprietary and I ended up making "a lot of money" I'd switch over to donations-only and release the source code.

"Home · Local Motors" https://localmotors.com

Local Motors

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Some spam, was originally on this Plug-In Hybrid Minivan, gradually turned into me looking into "Open Pilot" :

5:32 AM

https://www.treehugger.com/life-plug-pacifica-hybrid-minivan-five-month-update-4857245

Life With a Plug-In Pacifica Hybrid Minivan: Five Month Update

We already know the fuel economy is good. But it saves money in other ways too...

5:32 AM

https://www.pacificaforums.com/threads/question-about-auto-stop-start-system.49987/

Question about auto stop/start system

I've gone back and read several old discussion threads about the stop/start system before I developed a problem, mainly because I nether wanted nor trusted it. At about 36K miles I got the idiot light and error message telling me to get it serviced (maybe 2 weeks/200 miles ago). Thinking it...

5:32 AM

https://www.pacificaforums.com/threads/open-pilot-self-driving-pacifica.44107/

Open Pilot - Self Driving Pacifica

Hi everyone, I thought that I would share my experience with installing Open Pilot in my 2017 Pacifica Hybrid. I've been intrigued by self-driving technology and always hoped the standard lane keep assist (LKAS) would have been better in my Pacifica. I've been doing some research on the...

5:32 AM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Openpilot

Openpilot

openpilot is an open source, semi-automated driving system developed by comma.ai. openpilot operates as a replacement for OEM Advanced driver-assistance systems with the objective of improving visual perception and electromechanical actuator control. It allows users to modify their existing car with increased computing power, enhanced sensors, a...

5:33 AM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Hotz#comma.aib

5:33 AM

https://www.pacificaforums.com/threads/preventing-the-random-shutoff-testing-the-12v-batteries.49905/

Preventing the random shutoff - Testing the 12V Batteries

As a new pacific owner, I've run through the forum to review issues, and fixes. One of the more common causes of issues is a dying 12V battery, which causes a dead pacifica at the worst time. I'm trying to think of a preventative maintenance or testing method for the home user. Any ideas...

5:33 AM

https://electrek.co/2017/04/25/waymo-500-self-driving-pacifica-hybrid-minivans-rides-open-to-public/

Fred Lambert

Waymo deploys 500 self-driving Pacifica hybrid minivans in Phoenix ...

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5:34 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMcdMoa9wnc

Logan LeGrand

A History of Comma.ai

5:34 AM

https://www.youtube.com/c/LoganLeGrand/videos

Logan LeGrand

5:36 AM

The Data Use / (Minor) Security Risk is my main concern https://comma.ai/prime (Although it is needed for training )

comma.ai

Make driving chill. Upgrade your car with a comma three. comma is building the Android for cars. We have an open source driver assistance system that runs on most modern cars.

5:36 AM

odd stuff

5:37 AM

I know the current minivan my family has has a pile of gears, it's like trying to be a CVT, but isn't so dangerously shifts in the middle of intersections after a stoplight etc

5:37 AM

I think there is a class action lawsuit on that model of Honda Odyssey IIRC

5:37 AM

If this could be a workaround for their BS firmware too that would be neat as well !

5:39 AM

What systems it interferes with / what happens if it goes down etc are also something i would want to look into (ie does it connect to / impact airbags, can the "stock" system override it or vice versa, does it void warrenties / make insurance difficult, etc) (Also stumbled upon these as a potential solution to that mini-van's battery issue: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VRLA_battery , may be neat for other applications) (edited)

his blog is a gold mine too

5:41 AM

always dream of retrofitting old classic cars with modern parts/controllers and slapping a comma 2 in it for lane keeping

5:42 AM

rolling in a perfectly restored classic, with lane keeping/braking assist/crash avoidance

I'm still trying to figure out the ultimate car in my mind

5:44 AM

That Plug in hybrid minivan is pretty close, especially with that OS driver assist stuff, but it doesn't have flex fuel etc and i am looking into all that

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All the papers on DME discuss using it in compression ignition engines (edited)

5:45 AM

But those are annoying to regulate NOx on

5:45 AM

Flex Fuel (x<=E-85) is nice, i think some brazillian cars can run on pure ethanol (e-100), but it is kind of nasty to work with

5:46 AM

I think the issue is moreso absorbed water in the ethanol?

5:46 AM

"Autogas" (Propane or LPG) is supposedly pretty common in Europe, and should behave similarly to DME

5:47 AM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autogas

Autogas

Autogas is the common name for liquefied petroleum gas (LPG) when it is used as a fuel in internal combustion engines in vehicles as well as in stationary applications such as generators. It is a mixture of propane and butane. Autogas is widely used as a "green" fuel, as its use reduces CO2 exhaust emissions by around 15% compared to petrol. One...

what are your constraints for an "ultimate vehicle"??

Also ethanol/methanol (i am unsure on DME) are used as octane boosters/antiknock agents/whatever, instead of Tetraethyl lead, as well as the biofuel aspect, so they would like more forced induction / different engine designs even so that's also an issue

OwnerOfOwn

what are your constraints for an "ultimate vehicle"??

PZEV Rating (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partial_zero-emissions_vehicle )
As good efficiency as possible
Plug in hybrid + as good regenerative breaking as possible
Capable of using some sort of biofuel in it's pure form (also maybe liquid + gaseous fuel)
Just kind of "drop in replacement" for a similar fossil fuel car
Vehicle-to-Grid Capable
Driver Assist Stuff

5:57 AM

I am also unironically a fan of the mini-van format, it can be a person hauler, fold down all the back (and maybe even front passenger) seats a small cargo vehicle, and some can tow a small amount of stuff

5:57 AM

Granted all of this is in the context of Car dependent USA too

Yeah, I enjoy SUV's for the higher ground clearance, but that's a north american thing as well

Eric Lotze

PZEV Rating (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partial_zero-emissions_vehicle )
As good efficiency as possible
Plug in hybrid + as good regenerative breaking as possible
Capable of using some sort of biofuel in it's pure form (also maybe liquid + gaseous fuel)
Just kind of "drop in replacement" for a similar fossil fuel car
Vehicle-to-Grid Capable
Driver Assist Stuff

these are all great

5:58 AM

I really like the cybertruck, unironically.

5:58 AM

throwing a couple different project generators in the bed

5:58 AM

could have a hydrogen electrolysis generator, a small small diesel generator (edited)

5:58 AM

and then a small flex fuel generator

5:59 AM

can recharge by draining motor oil out of cars broken down on the road ( could be my pessimism/apocalypse visions showing here) (edited)

5:59 AM

or can recharge with solar powered electrolysis, run that in the flex fuel engine,

5:59 AM

could honestly have one side of a generator coil a diesel engine and the other side a flex fuel engine

6:00 AM

neatly nested in the back bed, for easy range upgrades

It's probably all ECU tuning (although hydrogen entitlement may be a spooky aspect), but i wonder if an autogas system could also work on syngas)

6:03 AM

I think there was an OS board (or even ECU) for ecu tuning

Eric Lotze

It's probably all ECU tuning (although hydrogen entitlement may be a spooky aspect), but i wonder if an autogas system could also work on syngas)

I was even considering starting one, but americans like to sue people

https://speeduino.com/home/

6:04 AM

I knew of that one

6:04 AM

just found two others in searching for it! (edited)

it's 100% engine management, and I'm excited to see how machine learning pushes gas engines to their limits

6:04 AM

that's awesome

6:04 AM

I know people have been slapping chips on normal ECU's forever for tuning

6:04 AM

hondata and such

https://rusefi.com/

rusEFI

6:06 AM

Another issue though is accessibility of all this, lots of sensors + chips etc which is a bit of an issue

Eric Lotze

Another issue though is accessibility of all this, lots of sensors + chips etc which is a bit of an issue

wiring harnesses

6:08 AM

tesla has struggled with 12volt legacy hardware

6:09 AM

higher voltage lower amperage==smaller/lighter wires

6:09 AM

almost every component in vehicles has hit economies of scale for 12v

6:10 AM

my first step in an OS engine management system would be going to 48 volts, and building those sensors/actuators/components from scratch

I know you need Oxygen Sensors (and maybe temp) for basic catalytic converter function, you need pressure/temperature for forced induction, probably need chemical sensors for flex fuel (or if using more fuels etc to tell what is in use) Also all sorts of pressure stuff (edited)

OwnerOfOwn

higher voltage lower amperage==smaller/lighter wires

THis is why EU grid (or similar) ones can use thinner wires in buildings right vs USA/North American 120v ?

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not to mention the suite of sensors checking postitions of components during operations "timing sensor" category has a lot of parts deep in the engine, but those are also where the most gains can be made with high-fidelity data (edited)

Eric Lotze

THis is why EU grid (or similar) ones can use thinner wires in buildings right vs USA/North American 120v ?

Something like that, EU might run 3 phase all the time when we stick to 2 phases

6:13 AM

also cheaper at scale to go higher in voltage for your sensor suites

6:14 AM

because you are spending less money on conductors in your harnesses/plus some weight savings for performance/efficiency

OwnerOfOwn

also cheaper at scale to go higher in voltage for your sensor suites

emphasis on "at scale" 48v components don't exist

OwnerOfOwn

my first step in an OS engine management system would be going to 48 volts, and building those sensors/actuators/components from scratch

Another approach is multiplexing data. That is where can use is used. There are ways to use other voltages and mixed voltages with buck/boost devices that are getting quite inexpensive as power semiconductors are not to proprietary.... Besides experimenting with this stuff can be exciting,

great discussion enjoy the ideas.

6:38 PM

Can use was supposed to be can-bus....

OwnerOfOwn

not to mention the suite of sensors checking postitions of components during operations "timing sensor" category has a lot of parts deep in the engine, but those are also where the most gains can be made with high-fidelity data (edited)

On lots of vehicles they are just bolt on replacement parts. Probably even more so on newer vehicles.

OwnerOfOwn

emphasis on "at scale" 48v components don't exist

A while back was reading about 1300v system. I think the motors were lower voltage just played games with connections so that charging could be done quickly. High voltage low amperage fast charge then use lower voltage. Pretty interesting design.

@Paulum has reached level 2. GG!

OwnerOfOwn

almost every component in vehicles has hit economies of scale for 12v

Just use low voltage control and information systems to control higher power devices. Machine tools use low voltage then contactors or now inverters to power the large drive.

Hey @Eric Lotze ! I saw you on the STR server!

9:50 PM

Hi!

9:50 PM

OwnerOfOwn

Something like that, EU might run 3 phase all the time when we stick to 2 phases

US uses 3 phase for industrial and distribution systems. Where US is different is in our 1volt and 2 volt legs. US 220 is between any 2 legs of 3 phase generation ans 110 is 1 leg to ground or neutral leg. That is why you always use 2 pole breaker on 220 in US. If only 1 leg shut down the other leg is still 110 volts to ground. Play with transformers and center taps to accomplish this in a grid that send original generated 3 legs different ways. Most of Europe is this way too only their 220 is hot leg to neutral or ground. Across 2 legs they get around 360 in some systems..... hope I didn't lose anybody with that.

Paulum

US uses 3 phase for industrial and distribution systems. Where US is different is in our 1volt and 2 volt legs. US 220 is between any 2 legs of 3 phase generation ans 110 is 1 leg to ground or neutral leg. That is why you always use 2 pole breaker on 220 in US. If only 1 leg shut down the other leg is still 110 volts to ground. Play with transformers and center taps to accomplish this in a grid that send original generated 3 legs different ways. Most of Europe is this way too only their 220 is hot leg to neutral or ground. Across 2 legs they get around 360 in some systems..... hope I didn't lose anybody with that.

Yep it is mostly good Except it is 208 between two legs and not 220

10:29 PM

We have 120 officially not 110 ( of course it depends where you are for exact number) And remember 3 phase is not 90 degrees apart but 120 degrees

10:29 PM

So two phases is not 240 but 208 instead

On some distribution systems the use a single standard 3 phase transformer which gives 208 which is the bottom side tolerance of voltage range in US. I live in a rural area and even 10 miles from substation my voltage is usually 250 volts. If there is a lot of loads on the leg it will be a little lower. As a side note if you want to use 3 phase solid state inverters. If you delivered voltage is 220 nothing needed if it is more than +-10 % away from that you should look at using a buck/boost transformer to get it in that +-10% window. This is not always made clear on those devices. Same thing holds true in Europe as the distribution grids are not always 220 volts. If you have been in a machine shop running NC, CNC, DNC, those machines are usually wired to a 3 phase buck/boost so they are in specification. Power systems are fun after you have damaged enough stuff in ignorance to find out the details.

I know when I look for land for my forever home I want a 3 phase power line running above, which isn't hard to find in rural US. but having 3 phase at the pole is not a given for all americans. they'll have a 200 amp service max, but in rural places you can easily get a few hundred more amps

11:03 PM

208 is the rural connection

11:03 PM

at some crazy crazy amperage

In single phase distributions they use center tap transformers with the hot distribution going to center tap then they are 180° out of phase. And power companies can buy transformers with moveable straps so the can adjust those voltages.

Paulum

On some distribution systems the use a single standard 3 phase transformer which gives 208 which is the bottom side tolerance of voltage range in US. I live in a rural area and even 10 miles from substation my voltage is usually 250 volts. If there is a lot of loads on the leg it will be a little lower. As a side note if you want to use 3 phase solid state inverters. If you delivered voltage is 220 nothing needed if it is more than +-10 % away from that you should look at using a buck/boost transformer to get it in that +-10% window. This is not always made clear on those devices. Same thing holds true in Europe as the distribution grids are not always 220 volts. If you have been in a machine shop running NC, CNC, DNC, those machines are usually wired to a 3 phase buck/boost so they are in specification. Power systems are fun after you have damaged enough stuff in ignorance to find out the details.

thank you for sharing a ton of responses, running through them now. interested in catching up on all this

I refer to this as private information. Had the privilege of having a hold voltage distribution system Gorman for a friend. Took a lot of blanks out of picture for me at least one book that sort of goes into this. Will be happy to give title if you want. Glad you can follow along

11:09 PM

Hope you can make out the last thing. I think I have to many languages on my phone for spelling corrections. If someone knows how to tame them let me know

I've had my autocorrect turned off for years, one too many awkward texts to female partners made me ditch it for good

I am very rural on a REA system hear at 250volts. Was in an REA system at the place I lived and it was 208 volts. As long as it is more are less 200-255 federal regulations are happy. The power company sells more power at higher voltage. Or where I am here there are air-conditioning and irrigation loads.

Paulum

I refer to this as private information. Had the privilege of having a hold voltage distribution system Gorman for a friend. Took a lot of blanks out of picture for me at least one book that sort of goes into this. Will be happy to give title if you want. Glad you can follow along

"hold voltage distribution system?" is this something that rectifies the current coming from the grid, so your system is always at 220?

11:15 PM

and that book title would be great. I know in industrial systems power gets very weird, so having the ability to wire my own shop competently or at least know who to call when I get in over my head would be great

May do that if I remember it is nice when not that good at .... I think that should have been an old friend that was a line foreman for the high tension primary stuff.

I know my way around wiring fairly well, and have felt comfortable speccing out wiring, over distance for certain amperage, say 60 amp service 40 ft from the breaker

Paulum

May do that if I remember it is nice when not that good at .... I think that should have been an old friend that was a line foreman for the high tension primary stuff.

yeah I spoke to an electrician when he was reworking the building power at my last job, and he told me rural is 208, excited to hear it can fluctuate though

11:17 PM

208 minimum for sure, which would coincide with +-10% (edited)

Paulum

On lots of vehicles they are just bolt on replacement parts. Probably even more so on newer vehicles.

primarily concerned about pulling apart the engine to retrofit a better sensor suite, they are bolt on, but could turn a 3 hour plug and play job into a 3 day retrofitting job

Paulum

A while back was reading about 1300v system. I think the motors were lower voltage just played games with connections so that charging could be done quickly. High voltage low amperage fast charge then use lower voltage. Pretty interesting design.

was this in the EV space?

The book is a sams publication ISBN 0-672-22636-7 Transformers and Motors by George Patrick Shultz.... The way I pick up on some of this is travelling and being a nerd about infrastructure...

Paulum

Just use low voltage control and information systems to control higher power devices. Machine tools use low voltage then contactors or now inverters to power the large drive.

I agree, there will be healthy amounts of relays, it's just a matter of smaller gauge wiring with "higher" low voltage stuff, of course the EV battery will be at 400-800v, but there is a ton of weight to be saved with higher voltage sensors, ie even smaller wires, like most industrial control systems are run on 48v

Paulum

The book is a sams publication ISBN 0-672-22636-7 Transformers and Motors by George Patrick Shultz.... The way I pick up on some of this is travelling and being a nerd about infrastructure...

best nerds there are

Be happy to help from static to rotary converter construction that is quite cheap on a diy. Though I feel like I died and went heaven with 3 phase inverters.... Not listening to the rotary converters adding to the noise.

@Paulum has reached level 3. GG!

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11:23 PM

I'm currently looking for the video where sandy munro talks about 12v systems and what their downfalls are for automotive use, I watch a lot of his videos, he had a career at ford, before starting his own consulting firm for proccess changes. Big OEMs will come to him to hear what he has to say about production optimization and design changes

11:24 PM

https://youtu.be/ZRkm6-bBk4U

Munro Live

Comparing Tesla, Ford, & VW's Electrical Architectures

11:24 PM

yes, found it

11:25 PM

he compares all 3 vehicles and their entire electrical systems, counting # of can busses, ECUS, size of wiring, where they step away from 12v to save space/weight/add efficiency

11:25 PM

11:26 PM

11:27 PM

if I were to OS automotive electronics, I would be going as close to tesla's systems as possible, they are the leanest by what this video shows

11:27 PM

11:28 PM

are you familiar with LVDS?

The buck/boost transformers are basically an auto transformer that just adds some voltage or subtracts some voltage to get it within tolerance. I think the one I use here is like .375 maybe .5 kw and fixes me up for using inverters on 5 HP roughly 220 @ 40 amps machines. The nice thing about inverters is they are soft start devices. So the power company does not have issues with dropping a heavy load on their lines all at once like an industrial contactor does.

Paulum

The buck/boost transformers are basically an auto transformer that just adds some voltage or subtracts some voltage to get it within tolerance. I think the one I use here is like .375 maybe .5 kw and fixes me up for using inverters on 5 HP roughly 220 @ 40 amps machines. The nice thing about inverters is they are soft start devices. So the power company does not have issues with dropping a heavy load on their lines all at once like an industrial contactor does.

inverter the same as a VFD? or just simpler than a vfd, by just having soft start inverters at a fixed HP?

The 1300 volt thing was some of my meandering maybe 2-3 years ago. Had the aha lights go off for the mystery of fast charge.

at 15:00 "I was dissapointed he didnt goto 48v, elon says "I can't get the parts, they are all 12v" maybe the suppliers will start 48v eventually, but until then we are stuck with heavier wires

Paulum

The 1300 volt thing was some of my meandering maybe 2-3 years ago. Had the aha lights go off for the mystery of fast charge.

it's crazy what the tesla semi chargers will run at I think its something like 1300v https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-semi-megacharger-charging-port-close-up-look/ (edited)

Gene

Close-up look at the Tesla Semi "Megacharger" charging port

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On "LVDS" give me the words as a few things use those initials. Been a while since I read Tesla's papers

Low voltage differential signalling

Have to study that have some can bus stuff to play with on micro controllers just not to them yet. Seems to be a robust signal method just data patterns might be proprietary.

Paulum

Have to study that have some can bus stuff to play with on micro controllers just not to them yet. Seems to be a robust signal method just data patterns might be proprietary.

I think tesla uses LVDS for camera control according to the Munro live video

Yes. I was referring to the 3 phase devices. A note of caution with running 50-60 Hz motors at higher frequency especially in higher horsepower single or 3 phase. Put insulated bearings in motors the rotor get high parasitic voltages that will discharge though uninsulated bearings!

11:41 PM

Soft start is one of the parameters that you can program on inverters there are lots of parameters. Go to automation direct website I think the manuals they have are open and should be in good English.

Paulum

Yes. I was referring to the 3 phase devices. A note of caution with running 50-60 Hz motors at higher frequency especially in higher horsepower single or 3 phase. Put insulated bearings in motors the rotor get high parasitic voltages that will discharge though uninsulated bearings!

yeah we had tons of problems with signal noise in a certain application, using a rebuilt motor that signal noise dropped to basically 0, this must have been the reason

11:42 PM

automation direct

11:42 PM

love opening those boxes

Will look at Elon's stuff thinking wrong Tesla.... oops

11:43 PM

Will look at LVDS too thanks

Paulum

Will look at Elon's stuff thinking wrong Tesla.... oops

lol! that is the best assumption though

Found a site in Netherlands that had a lot of information. Including translating US terms to EU/ISO/DIN

I think the address for the Netherlands electric supplier is on another machine will make note about getting it for you.

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11:53 PM

My apologies to everyone on this channel we should have to dm unless OwnerOfOwn did it

That's the beauty of OSE discord, it's just a repo of the aforementioned "personal information" sure someone will find this thread entertaining/educational. Channel is labeled off-topic after all

@OwnerOfOwn I can feign ignorance this is my first experiences on a chat group....

Found something weird/cool: https://theterraforming.strelka.com/

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8:49 AM

Which is just the site linked to by this video (I was looking up Technocracy again :P) https://youtu.be/uNAvJ6Km2vU

The Terraforming Media

TTF // For Planetary Governance. Part 3: Another Kind of Technocracy

https://youtu.be/wgUkjbMhF18

Off the Cuff

Earthships - America's Off-Grid Desert Community

https://contest.techbriefs.com/2021/entries/medical/11318

PPE KIT Cooling System with an application of Thermo Electric Coolers

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Nohbdy Ahtall

https://contest.techbriefs.com/2021/entries/medical/11318

I always thought that it would be nice if someone would develop a "coat" for the summer as well to keep people comfortable Especially with the amount of people now living in deserts like Arizona, it would be nice!

3:53 PM

I even had a few design ideas of my own some time ago

As a Floridian i agree

as a desert dweller, I concur

there is some systems, typically for Hazmat suits, or racecars (no ac, but thick fire suits)

3:59 PM

most use ice water buckers, or phase change materials though

gimme a dry suit with forced air, I'll walk around looking like the Michelin man

3:59 PM

but a thermoelectrtic one would be neat (edited)

4:00 PM

most use a sort of "undersuit" with water/cooling liquid tubes

4:00 PM

I think there is some OTS one now, i'll dig

4:01 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_Ti4GP0ntE

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4:12 PM

idk which video it was in, can't find the system they mentioned

Open Source Hardware Activism...on a major tech YouTube Channel?!? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xF_SR6aUKHg

Linus Tech Tips

It's time. - Open Source Smartwatch

"I'm gonna build my own smartwatch, with blackjack....and sponsors"

nice catch, there is also https://www.espruino.com/ (water-prove), within an entire family of boards. running Javascript on your arm - impressive! Something like this to get vibration alarm, extremely useful in a machine shop when you can't hear (and see) anything

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HfHAazNM3Q

Everyday Astronaut

Watch Firefly launch their FIRST EVER orbital rocket, Alpha!

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https://youtu.be/Bea4FS-zDzc

SuperfastMatt

Tesla Is Lightyears Ahead Of... Tesla

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I still need to document the Local P-3 Orions at the navy base near me before they replace them all with P-8s (essentially upgraded Boeing 737s or some similar turbofan plane) They have turboprops and make this (much nicer imo) low humming sound that is kind of iconic, and i think they could reverse the blade position to go in reverse, so could stop fast or something I just want to get like a good mic and maybe even a binuaural and/or ambisonic one to just capture the sounds, and some form of good camera stuff Longer rant for another time, but lots of newer planes/ships etc are never put in museums, or ESPECIALLY never run as antiques to to maitnence cost / decomissioning etc, so i really want to get good documentation of what they are like before they go "extinct" sort of!

I thought maybe it's been brought up here but the YouTuber Isaac Arthur explores "hard sci-fi" or perhaps just a depth and breadth into futuristic engineering and concepts. I've always been into this stuff, but things are connecting even more. For example not long ago I barely cared/knew much of chemistry, then "Nile Red" laid out a lot of understanding, now hearing more about the "macro" and "megastructure" aspects - such as the hydrogen and fusion possibilities mentioned in the below video - is really tying things together. Understanding and excitement. There's way too many videos, but here's one: https://youtu.be/pzuHxL5FD5U

Isaac Arthur

Starlifting

I tried to watch almost all of his videos during a rough part in my life, helped me through a lot of it just hearing someone talk about GIANT ideas, planetary-scale projects. Of course getting 7.9 Billion people on the same page is difficult, but for virgin planets, more can be done. Hopeful for space colonization one day

Nohbdy Ahtall

I thought maybe it's been brought up here but the YouTuber Isaac Arthur explores "hard sci-fi" or perhaps just a depth and breadth into futuristic engineering and concepts. I've always been into this stuff, but things are connecting even more. For example not long ago I barely cared/knew much of chemistry, then "Nile Red" laid out a lot of understanding, now hearing more about the "macro" and "megastructure" aspects - such as the hydrogen and fusion possibilities mentioned in the below video - is really tying things together. Understanding and excitement. There's way too many videos, but here's one: https://youtu.be/pzuHxL5FD5U

His video on arcologies and food growing are very thought provoking and well done. I want to watch it again to ground my optimism in some concrete realities (and then test them with actual farming

@Paul P. Which offline wallet do you use? (open-source if possible

) (edited)

Whurauk

@Paul P. Which offline wallet do you use? (open-source if possible

) (edited)

Most wallets and decentralized services are open source, it would be difficult to trust their security otherwise

I use MetaMask with seed phrase backed up in a password manager I wrote myself. If I want airgapping / cold storage I would use it on a raspberry pi and then unplug it.

2:36 AM

Frame also looks very well done, I haven’t used it extensively in my defi day to day

Paul P.

Most wallets and decentralized services are open source, it would be difficult to trust their security otherwise

I use MetaMask with seed phrase backed up in a password manager I wrote myself. If I want airgapping / cold storage I would use it on a raspberry pi and then unplug it.

Right, I forgot about that part. MetaMask isn't a centralized exchange as well? Like coinbase? I only used it to buy NFTs..

Paul P.

Frame also looks very well done, I haven’t used it extensively in my defi day to day

(was a link) ? (just to be sure i'm on the good site to look into) (edited)

Whurauk

Right, I forgot about that part. MetaMask isn't a centralized exchange as well? Like coinbase? I only used it to buy NFTs..

MetaMask is definitely not a centralized exchange. It’s client side only software that’s fully open source, and is the oldest and standard to interact with web3 across all Ethereum based chains and their layer 2’s. I would be careful of pop ups that imitate MetaMask ui, but other than that no major vulnerabilities have been found with it.

Whurauk

(was a link) ? (just to be sure i'm on the good site to look into) (edited)

It’s this one https://frame.sh/

I remember being highly interested, but way too poor, in Bitcoin when it was around the $12 mark. I remember letting all my friends know about it. The point was all about the fact of: working for it, and paying with it to get stuff, like food. The whole stock-marketization of it is when I lost interest. When I heard also that people were trading very tiny fractions of a coin, I thought "well how many digits can one go in the decimal?" and felt like the finite aspect had been worked around. Interest was returned for nearly every aspect of Crypto that has little to do with the money-game, but not interested in any coin that requires me to "put in money" to use. I'm waiting on the almighty Decentralized Autonomous Organizations aspect to evolve, among many other non-monetary-related use cases. (edited)

The ability for communities and neighbors to coordinate among themselves, without relying on outside parties, is my original dream for distributed ledgers as well. I see it as existing on a spectrum of buying in / speculating with old money to create new money <----------> coordinating directly between community members One can view this as a transfer of wealth, if you play far on the first end of the spectrum. This includes trading, speculating, accepting crypto as payment, and is what most of the world still sees crypto as: a gambling parlor or ponzi scheme to take advantage of, or a threat to existing monetary systems. On the far right of the spectrum, are probably systems that haven't been invented yet, perhaps that let members run nodes and validate transactions that record value directly, without having to pay an outside blockchain. Today the way most people interact with coins is somewhere in the middle, or there are many more dimensions / axes than captured here. For an OSE coin, I see the contribution / validation as: building, designing, documenting, uploading open source designs, and buying the parts or finished product. Fablabs, hablabs, hackerspaces, and makerspaces can run the nodes that incorporate people's transactions and activities for free, based on face-to-face (even over zoom) interactions. Ideally it would use a cross-chain contract, one not tied to any particular blockchain but secured by many of them.

3 years Open-Source Plastic - Recycling

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Paul P.

The ability for communities and neighbors to coordinate among themselves, without relying on outside parties, is my original dream for distributed ledgers as well. I see it as existing on a spectrum of buying in / speculating with old money to create new money <----------> coordinating directly between community members One can view this as a transfer of wealth, if you play far on the first end of the spectrum. This includes trading, speculating, accepting crypto as payment, and is what most of the world still sees crypto as: a gambling parlor or ponzi scheme to take advantage of, or a threat to existing monetary systems. On the far right of the spectrum, are probably systems that haven't been invented yet, perhaps that let members run nodes and validate transactions that record value directly, without having to pay an outside blockchain. Today the way most people interact with coins is somewhere in the middle, or there are many more dimensions / axes than captured here. For an OSE coin, I see the contribution / validation as: building, designing, documenting, uploading open source designs, and buying the parts or finished product. Fablabs, hablabs, hackerspaces, and makerspaces can run the nodes that incorporate people's transactions and activities for free, based on face-to-face (even over zoom) interactions. Ideally it would use a cross-chain contract, one not tied to any particular blockchain but secured by many of them.

@Paul P. only problem I see is that any craft needs proper bills for the tax. I can´t see how crypto doesn´t mess this already screwed process up. As a vendor, I am often forced to chose from sources where paperwork is easier. Prices are somewhat even secondary ...

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Man I can't wait your website is done

In the future I will like to build the filament maker! keep going mate I love what you do! (edited)

yeah, can´t wait either. thanks for the flowers ! long way to go

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As long as you keep going

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@Whurauk has reached level 4. GG!

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3 years Open-Source Plastic - Recycling

https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipOkpPWS_bU1Qw4ccrfXzRd1KM2oSRgEAMeR4ZvJzgb3AVVizl8fYd5hlHMB-_S8Pg?key=YTJfQTZrNnVub0JOajlFdFhjNFNYdlZnZzJhbTdn

Beautiful work @-- osr-support -- do you mind saying more about any particular favorite pieces?

@Paul P. has reached level 8. GG!

@Paul P. - thanks, you're right - adding this to the next vlog/podcast. more likely in a few weeks or so. there's quite some stuff coming together (pellet cutter, instead of filament ...). see you in a bit

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commuting home after wiring your 3D printer together https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIm4HvDgQCM

chilli music

Chill Drive - Lofi hip hop mix ~ Stress Relief, Relaxing Music

oopsie, facebook fucked up haha https://www.zdnet.com/article/what-took-facebook-down/

Hey everybody, Does anyone have by chance a quick tip to recognize specific bottles (inside a closed hopper)? The bottles can be transparent or colored. Was wondering to train "Lobe" with pre-processed images (black white, ... ). The bottles have often unique geometric features... could be a small consulting job if you like

It's part of the first OpenSource reverse vending machine. Registered vendors/bottles will reward users with something printed and get some cents at the next ATM or counter ... thanks in advance

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Hey everybody, Does anyone have by chance a quick tip to recognize specific bottles (inside a closed hopper)? The bottles can be transparent or colored. Was wondering to train "Lobe" with pre-processed images (black white, ... ). The bottles have often unique geometric features... could be a small consulting job if you like

It's part of the first OpenSource reverse vending machine. Registered vendors/bottles will reward users with something printed and get some cents at the next ATM or counter ... thanks in advance

That sounds like a cool project! I would imagine it can be done with OpenCV, or training a support vector machine classifier using PyTorch or Kerala. Do you have any labeled examples as a training set?

PyTorch/Kerala: let me check - my times in image processing / neural networks are long counted - Lobe looks great but no idea it can handle this sort of noise coming from transparent bottles, lightened up via LEDs. Samples : not yet, I start taking some soonish. OpenCV was as far I can remember better in tracking and matching when you have good and clean edges - I will give it another shot - I hope I don't blow the hardware specs. thanks for the hints, looks like some fun home work

Oops *Keras , Kerala is a city in India I believe

Good point, I didn’t consider the transparent bottle might look like noise. Lighting up with LEDs is a great idea, perhaps from different angles to get different speculate highlights.

Yeah, was just an idea but still a so-called 'controlled environment'; feels like analyzing show/disco lights whilst on drugs - from a sensor perspective

Was wondering how to deal with smashed/flattened bottles past the beta stage - in public spaces, etc... (edited)

7:59 PM

@Eric Lotze - happy to know you're learning a craft - metal - somewhat consider it a king discipline as doing game engines ... other than checking in on the usual YT channels (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcxlBLmujrjTVSSUkzZ2Jlg), doing straight beads is just the half. I learned - better said my motoric and senses) - most from welding in very uncomfortable and inaccessible positions. I hope you get a MIG with gas welder however - stick is great for outdoors and whatever shit storm scenarios but learning how to move develops best from MIG. You can all forget then again when doing TIG

8:02 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKS8fVVJ3kU - a little more background stuff ... here some fun stuff : https://www.facebook.com/groups/1887920654626913 (edited)

Weld.com

Welcome to Weld.com!

Facebook Groups

Trust me, i'm a welder has 47,989 members. If you're here, we'll assume we can trust that you're a welder, of some sort. These pages are designed for welders who have a higher level of pride in their...

8:07 PM

Great extra $$ on the side btw. Good welders can laugh about their college buddies

There's plenty of neighbours waiting forya (edited)

Discord Opensource Alternative near the finish line : https://github.com/fosscord

Fosscord (former Discord Open Source)

Fosscord is a free open source selfhostable discord compatible chat, voice and video platform - Fosscord (former Discord Open Source)

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Hey everybody, Does anyone have by chance a quick tip to recognize specific bottles (inside a closed hopper)? The bottles can be transparent or colored. Was wondering to train "Lobe" with pre-processed images (black white, ... ). The bottles have often unique geometric features... could be a small consulting job if you like

It's part of the first OpenSource reverse vending machine. Registered vendors/bottles will reward users with something printed and get some cents at the next ATM or counter ... thanks in advance

IIRC someone had a project like that on Precious Plastic's discord, they may have even made an app, i need to look into it more for specifics / make a page (or you could!), also there is that sensor someone on the discord developed

10:30 PM

A sort of Open Source Automated Recycling Sorter, or even a Materials Recovery Facility would be really neat though

Eric Lotze

IIRC someone had a project like that on Precious Plastic's discord, they may have even made an app, i need to look into it more for specifics / make a page (or you could!), also there is that sensor someone on the discord developed

Thanks, The discussions and posts there have been mostly about NIR/Raman spectrometers. Looking at the performance and specs of those chips (1K +), I doubt it can differ between different PET brands. What's left are laser based systems as often used on highspeed sorting conveyors - ultra-expensive and my last hope: image processing (feature detection). I think we can convince the vendors to alter slightly the bottlenecks to facilitate easier recognition if that is really needed. That would also enable scanning deformed bottles - at least in theory

NIR based scanning however wants the object really close and steady to the sensor. Recent systems (RVMs) transport the bottle over a conveyor before it's accepted by the scanner, running on a radial rail around. Those systems are patented and pretty expensive. Gonna try OpenCV first, at least to get the samples filtered to usable data.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlFVPnGEb8o Would probably be a really useful item for outdoor work + screen-based technology (meetings, entertainment, learning, etc)

DIY Perks

Building an ULTRA-BRIGHT water-cooled TV...

https://youtu.be/ZhhsWoxokRY

ShawnBeuscher

house Halloween projection map sample

About crypto wallets/currencies: They are all based on public/private keys (asymmetric cryptography), right!? There seems to be real thread looming wrt to quantum computing... Here is a background article: https://cacm.acm.org/magazines/2021/9/255037-the-complex-path-to-quantum-resistance/fulltext Some quotes:

"Hence, standardized and widely used asymmetric cryptographic systems will be severely impacted by a sufficiently capable quantum computer."
"harvest-then-decrypt attack happens when an adversary captures and stores encrypted data and sits on it until a quantum computer becomes available to provide a means for decryption"
"Mosca estimates a 20% chance of a universal quantum computer, with the ability to break RSA 2048, within 10 years"

Especially the harvest-then-decrypt attack would care me quite a bit if I had serious money in crypto...

The Complex Path to Quantum Resistance

Is your organization prepared?

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Yeah, I can see that on the horizon, another thing to consider. Thanks for sharing!

hkienle

About crypto wallets/currencies: They are all based on public/private keys (asymmetric cryptography), right!? There seems to be real thread looming wrt to quantum computing... Here is a background article: https://cacm.acm.org/magazines/2021/9/255037-the-complex-path-to-quantum-resistance/fulltext Some quotes:

"Hence, standardized and widely used asymmetric cryptographic systems will be severely impacted by a sufficiently capable quantum computer."
"harvest-then-decrypt attack happens when an adversary captures and stores encrypted data and sits on it until a quantum computer becomes available to provide a means for decryption"
"Mosca estimates a 20% chance of a universal quantum computer, with the ability to break RSA 2048, within 10 years"

Especially the harvest-then-decrypt attack would care me quite a bit if I had serious money in crypto...

Great perspectives. I was at a CRYPTO academic + NIST standards workshop in 2019 , and the latter was full of veteran and newbie engineers coming together to discuss and judge different competing standards that NIST should endorse, including quantum resistant crypto systems that the U.S. can use to mitigate foreign intelligence, but also that citizens can use too against NSA. the winners of these standards contests are usually the best “marketed”: their inventors give a lot of talks and communicate the most to their colleagues, and sometimes release and propose a lot of new standards, so that one will stick.

7:06 PM

Very fascinating intersection of human nature, engineering, and theoretical science.

New ~10 Minute Blender Open Movie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cMxraX_5RE

Blender Studio

Sprite Fright - Halloween Animated Short

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https://openbci.com/

Open Source Tools for Neuroscience

3:05 AM

can we just simulate the village?

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3:05 AM

could be faster

OwnerOfOwn

can we just simulate the village?

These look like villager brains in vats to me.

5:12 PM

I love OpenBCI, I was gonna buy one earlier this year but all my money went to OSE and then they raised the price 28%

8:39 PM

In terms of simulating the village, I was talking with Ken about how it would be possible to fund the GVCS research by selling NFTs for each machine to fund its development

8:39 PM

but the basic idea is you would pay a concept artist to create aesthetic fictional renditions of the machines being used in a future society

8:42 PM

then you know sell n editions of each for x price, whatever it would be estimated to prototype

8:43 PM

I think it could work if the artist was good enough

8:44 PM

but you could also at least demo prototype machines in a virtual 3d environment

Just know that NFT participation might put OSE in a negative light to groups who think more in line with what GVCS provides - I've been finding lots of people who would love OSE's GVCS for what it stands for, but despise NFTs and would rather not support any organizations supporting them.

There are many opinions for sure, something will always offend someone. There is a concept called “anti-mentor” where if a group disapproves something, you know you’re on the right track

If any of those groups who are anti-NFT would have helped finish GVCS, they would have done so already.

Wesxdz

I think it could work if the artist was good enough

You can hire artists especially if you have an inspiring vision. There may already be talented artists in this server @Wesxdz

@Paul P. has reached level 10. GG!

I can't figure out who named TIG/GTAW, TIG and both the search engine and my brain are suffering lol

4:05 AM

American Welding Society named it GTAW i guess

4:05 AM

but where did the name "TIG" come from, just people or what

Tungsten inert gas, a name upgrade from heliarc when the inert gas was helium. GTAW gas tungsten arc welding

4:11 AM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gas_tungsten_arc_welding#%3A%7E%3Atext%3DMeredith_named_the_process_Heliarc%2Cinert_gas_welding_%28TIG%29.%26text%3DInitially%2C_the_electrode_overheated_quickly%2Cwere_transferred_to_the_weld.?wprov=sfla1

Gas tungsten arc welding

Gas tungsten arc welding (GTAW), also known as tungsten inert gas (TIG) welding, is an arc welding process that uses a non-consumable tungsten electrode to produce the weld. The weld area and electrode are protected from oxidation or other atmospheric contamination by an inert shielding gas (argon or helium). A filler metal is normally used, tho...

I just realized that you can Click and Drag Closed Captions in YouTube to Wherever You Want

lol, as usual - any discussion about Opensource hardware gets deleted on PreciousPlastic main server. That's somewhat astonishing considering that most of us (all gone anyways) came for Opensource but now it's controlled by proprietary and yet random trespassers, with zero contribs anywhere but censorship. How's OSE doing actually? Didn't see many things except some workshops. Was wondering to consolidate related MediaWiki data into OSR...

Wesxdz

In terms of simulating the village, I was talking with Ken about how it would be possible to fund the GVCS research by selling NFTs for each machine to fund its development

I think that making 3d animated shorts would be the most valuable technique to create a good aesthetic vision, of course this sort of stuff is heavy heavy labor intensive and I see the market as a winner takes all sort of scenario, so the time commitment might be on the order of 6-12 months for asset creation for a project like this

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7:12 AM

I looked into a lot of intentional communities, but most of them feel dated, moving back in time using less technology, low density and such

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7:37 AM

and actually I programmed a xbox controller to control the microtrack so it's not much of a stretch to think of the ose game as a simulation environment for learning...

7:38 AM

or actual controlling of physical hardware

Based on talking to @Jeff H#5597 ‘s direct experiences, Mennonites and other religious communities have created impressive automation for food production and building construction. My theory is that most of their customers are word-of-mouth. Interested if anyone knows more

Wesxdz

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These are gorgeous! Did you remodel or import FreeCAD files into Blender?

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lol, as usual - any discussion about Opensource hardware gets deleted on PreciousPlastic main server. That's somewhat astonishing considering that most of us (all gone anyways) came for Opensource but now it's controlled by proprietary and yet random trespassers, with zero contribs anywhere but censorship. How's OSE doing actually? Didn't see many things except some workshops. Was wondering to consolidate related MediaWiki data into OSR...

That’s sad to hear, but I think it’s expected for many businesses who want a competitive moat that widens over time, and where open source doesn’t help them deliver a better customer experience. I agree the censorship seems unnecessary

Wesxdz

I looked into a lot of intentional communities, but most of them feel dated, moving back in time using less technology, low density and such

I agree with you. For some reason some people feel better in "the good old times" that were probably not all that good. The things that are here to work with to go forward are incredible but a lot of studying. The software and hardware electronic and machinery methods and capabilities available are mind blowing.... Just takes time for some people to embrace them. I hope you have success with your looking.

Here's a more official render

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Paul P.

These are gorgeous! Did you remodel or import FreeCAD files into Blender?

Yes FreeCAD bodies imported as obj

Did i break OSE Wiki ?

nvm, it's working now, how odd

too many tabs Eric

5:13 AM

need a better way to transfer the information

lol

5:20 AM

currently trying to dump all the tabs i have on my phone into bookmarks/wiki pages (edited)

5:21 AM

Laptop ones will have to be for a different day

5:21 AM

luckily those are more concentrated to specific topics

5:22 AM

my phone ones are from separate thoughts and full on separate days so it's interesting

1 ish local time and i still have more links to dump lol

7:40 AM

Luckily i got most of them, only about probably 10 or so deserving of a wiki page, rest are just bookmarkable / things i need to more fully read/share

7:40 AM

but the tiredness is finally kicking so i'm logging off

7:40 AM

~~also got welding school in the morning and it's testing week but that's beside the point~~

Haven't done the bend tests yet due to logistical mess / staff not being on the same page

1:59 AM

Did do some TIG today which was neat !

2:00 AM

supposedly though moving on to MIG / FCAW as that is what was next, although the schedule has flip flopped a bunch of times, and TIG is harder so it makes sense to spend more time on it? (edited)

2:04 AM

I heard a bunch of terms/tools of interest i should document later from some Weld.com YouTube videos on TIG stuff

Eric Lotze

supposedly though moving on to MIG / FCAW as that is what was next, although the schedule has flip flopped a bunch of times, and TIG is harder so it makes sense to spend more time on it? (edited)

Learning to weld with oxygen/acetylene is an excellent way to build skills toward learning TIG. It is basically the same, you have a heat source in one hand and the filler rod in the other. TIG adds in using a foot pedal or sliding button on the torch to control the heat, particularly when starting and ending welds.

Paul P.

That’s sad to hear, but I think it’s expected for many businesses who want a competitive moat that widens over time, and where open source doesn’t help them deliver a better customer experience. I agree the censorship seems unnecessary

Yeah, something like that. To bad they fooled baited and everyone with Opensource. Now what´s left are some proprietary and very toxic individuals, speaking on behalf of a few thousand lurkers, lol.

Is there any word on more telepresence these days? I was always a fan of "RunMyRobot"(Now Remo.tv), where strangers control bots you set up - this is definitely something that should, and will IMO, become a huge thing(and then normalized and chilled out). I'd love to be able to suggest a set of hardware/software for a willing friend to download so that I can be there, in semi-mobile robot form, from afar. I think importantly it should have a self-charging port, speaker, and some kind of interface. Cam/mic sure, but with a very easy way to control permissions on the other end - messing up here is where I see primary problems.

Happy holidays all ❄️ we have an open room at our hackbase-in-the-making in Detroit from Jan 1 - Jun 1st. We have a growing tool library and two OSE fans / alums (I’m one

who are working on open hardware projects / businesses. If you or anyone you know would be interested in applying, please lmk (reply here or DM, all questions welcome)

'we have a growing tool library', mind to show off a little

?

Lol well it is a modest start, but thx to @yfgame we have a working Voron 2.4 that is cranking out parts

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Paul P.

Lol well it is a modest start, but thx to @yfgame we have a working Voron 2.4 that is cranking out parts

Yeah, I plan on making a google doc soon with pics!

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12:00 AM

But if anyone wants to use anything, just come on over

12:00 AM

and mostly construction and house rehab tools and materials: circular saw, oscillating saw, hammer drill, tools for demolition, tapes, glues, protective equipment. Ratchet set https://forum.detroitarcology.org/t/install-tool-shelves-in-basement/153

Install tool shelves in basement

We are reaching max capacity of informally organizing tools in piles around the house. I propose building extra shelves from scrap plywood and OSB, held up by 2x4 pieces screwed into studs. Feel free to like this topic to upvote or prioritize, or likewise prioritize any other task with the backlog or doing tags. Even more strong then a “like...

12:05 AM

So far it focuses on things a new homeowner needs to terraform a Detroit house, because we’d like to export our approach in assembly line fashion to other homes in this neighborhood. But we are open to requests, and we have attic, detached garage space, and basement for larger equipment like a future large bed CNC

Dumping photos of a pencil sharpener gear i got to look for and buy a replacement for (that or CAD it up and get one printed) :

11:30 PM

11:31 PM

11:32 PM

Also “helpful” kitten

11:33 PM

11:34 PM

nvm

11:34 PM

that one was in inches in case the gear is in that measurement

11:34 PM

thought it was 20mm for a sec lol

11:38 PM

welp went downstairs to grab it's name/model number; seems i forgot to grab that, turns out parents recently "chucked it"

11:39 PM

"single cheap gear broken? Time to landfill the entire thing and buy a brand new one!"

11:39 PM

lovely mindset of suburbia i guess lol

11:43 PM

On another note: Found this aggressively midwestern picture online from the recent tornadoes’ aftermath: https://www.whiskeyriff.com/2021/12/16/the-kentucky-tornado-put-an-ear-of-corn-through-a-john-deere-windshield/

OSE's Bitcoin wallet holds 7.69 BTC

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@Deleted User has reached level 2. GG!

Currently being radicalized (if i wasn't already) against Textbook Companies

10:26 PM

Just spent ~190USD (albeit parents are covering it, others have it worse, i don't want to be coming off all "woe is me", anywho) on my welding school's textbook That also came with the online code, which i'm trying to get that entered right now

10:26 PM

I have ~3 different corporation's software to go through (a lá my JTA Experience) and now i'm reading through their TOS: https://www.g-w.com/terms "We reserve the right to withdraw or amend this Website, and any service or material we provide on the Website, in our sole discretion without notice. We will not be liable if for any reason all or any part of the Website is unavailable at any time or for any period. From time to time, we may restrict access to some parts of the Website, or the entire Website, to users, including registered users." I swear if this book doesn't have some ancient magic written it, and just contains info i could grab from the many exitsting free resources i'm going to loose it lol

Eric Lotze

Currently being radicalized (if i wasn't already) against Textbook Companies

True true! I went through the same thing!

Unfortunately the ins do their best to keep the outs out. A friend while doing PhD studies had a prof that said just put the book you bought somewhere and proceeded to bring in copies of sometimes 100 year old text books to teach the class. I am finding the same with working on math now... What I was taught in school was meant to be boring, slow and at least for me not understandable. The internet really is nice in this way. Hang in and out live them. You will prevail with time and perseverance.

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I just found 5 errors in my chemistry workbook from this weeks homework. Might start a textbook company if they let this shit fly in schools across the country

OwnerOfOwn

I just found 5 errors in my chemistry workbook from this weeks homework. Might start a textbook company if they let this shit fly in schools across the country

There is an Open Source one somewhere, i have a page on it

5:59 PM

ESPECIALLY for basic Math/Chemistry; Basic Algebra hasn't changed much since the time it was invented in the Islamic Golden Age, so the books don't need to much either!

5:59 PM

I can get the need for rapidly changing fields etc, but for stuff like that it is ridiculous

It’s true academic publishing can be a scam. Professors get free samples from companies to assign it to their students, who then have to spend thousands of dollars. And sometimes it’s the professor’s own textbook so it’s royalties until the pocket! So incentives are not aligned. So they pirate PDFs online, or buy international version which sells overseas for a fraction of the U.S. cost. Knowledge on the internet has really changed things. I agree, you just need to exercise your own judgment if who to trust, but you can learn almost anything from YouTube and khanacademy etc, except maybe brain surgery

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Eric Lotze

ESPECIALLY for basic Math/Chemistry; Basic Algebra hasn't changed much since the time it was invented in the Islamic Golden Age, so the books don't need to much either!

https://openstax.org/

OpenStax

@Deleted User has reached level 1. GG!

https://open.umn.edu/opentextbooks

Open Textbook Library

Open textbooks are licensed by authors and publishers to be freely used and adapted. Download, edit and distribute them at no cost.

Thanks!

1:55 AM

I somehow forgot about that / to grab the wiki link for it!

1:55 AM

Do you have experience with all that yourself? I don't have any myself!

Status report? Has @Nohbdy Ahtall been active here? He's invested in the knowledge of humanity in one package thing. Does anyone here have a suggested "care package" of information? Basically, the type of information Open Source Ecology specializes in. As a cybercivilization founder, I'd like to have a few resources to pass around for those who could make use of it. The wiki site is included, of course.

Mossdew

Status report? Has @Nohbdy Ahtall been active here? He's invested in the knowledge of humanity in one package thing. Does anyone here have a suggested "care package" of information? Basically, the type of information Open Source Ecology specializes in. As a cybercivilization founder, I'd like to have a few resources to pass around for those who could make use of it. The wiki site is included, of course.

Heyyy, no I haven't been here hah, I should! I'm afraid I'm way behind in knowledge curation as well. I'll give you a Guilded message sometime, but yeh still busy lookin' for a job to prevent ye ol' homelessness scenario. X.x

If anyone is in Montreal and would like to live with / spend some time with other hackers and makers, my friend Max has two rooms in his e-space / cafe-loft Very flexible terms, and he's an amazing livecoder and works on laser and light installations for algoraves. Might be a good opportunity to work on some open source hardware as well. I'd like to travel up from Detroit and visit myself!

Nohbdy Ahtall

Heyyy, no I haven't been here hah, I should! I'm afraid I'm way behind in knowledge curation as well. I'll give you a Guilded message sometime, but yeh still busy lookin' for a job to prevent ye ol' homelessness scenario. X.x

i've been missing your input as well. what kind of work are you looking for? i think we can all relate, and keep an eye out

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Mossdew

Status report? Has @Nohbdy Ahtall been active here? He's invested in the knowledge of humanity in one package thing. Does anyone here have a suggested "care package" of information? Basically, the type of information Open Source Ecology specializes in. As a cybercivilization founder, I'd like to have a few resources to pass around for those who could make use of it. The wiki site is included, of course.

dang, now i'm curious what a cyber civilization is

Paul P.

i've been missing your input as well. what kind of work are you looking for? i think we can all relate, and keep an eye out

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Remote Support is my specialty hah, Help Desk / Tech Support(4+ years now), usually applications, websites. I wish I could take a junior developer role but it would need heavy mentorship or time. IT or DevOps is even on my mind, with IT being closer in reach, but I expect these opportunities might only come from within Help Desk and being given a chance from within the same company.

Ooh I've talked with Mossdew heavily about the Cyber Civilization thing, so we're on the same page. It's currently like a club or guild, but instead of in one game it's in.. well, all of them potentially? Nearly any multiplayer world especially with "player-owned" stuff like castles or towns. EVE Online has some of the best in-game infrastructure with its corp/alliance/economy thing, so imagine it going "that deep/complex" but across multiple games. The interlinking playerbases are a major part of it too, like that whole "layer" of "in-between games" itself, with the game worlds acting as the ground floor for all the action. Economy-wise, some members could do stuff in game A, but get rewarded in game B, C, and D whether it be support roles, logistics, in-game items/currency, etc(no real money handling here thankfully, else I'd be uninterested). Lots of experiments around that, potentially bringing larger masses of players to more obscure or unpopular games like MUDs. It's quite trippy, I could talk about it all day. Whew, there's a lot of potential, I think. I shared nearly any idea I've had on the concept(because I had a similar concept in mind but for my game development club project) with Mossdew, so it's exciting to see any progress get made.

12:07 AM

Oh yeah, here you go: https://www.guilded.gg/Mossdew/blog/MHQ-A/Mossdew-Cybernauts-Cyberconstructs-What-is-this That hasn't been updated in a while it seems, but that covers a bit.

Mossdew, Cybernauts, Cyberconstructs - What is this? - MHQ-A - Moss...

Mossdew, also known as Mossdew Club and shortened to MD, is a cybercivilization made up of cybernauts and inhabits cyberterritories. Despite the over-used "c... • Created by Mossdew • Created December 25th 2021

Eric Lotze

Do you have experience with all that yourself? I don't have any myself!

I have used openstax for chemistry, & own their hardbound Statistics book. They are good. I don't see why all public education doesn't use them other than the 10%'s back room deals with Pearson.

nailed, https://www.tiktok.com/@modern_parents_uk/video/7091207592155827462

Philip Dodd on TikTok

The virus affecting men that is sweeping the globe. #modernwarriorbrotherhood #virus #boredominduceddepression #createdonttake #passion

Not to be political hah, but this is perhaps leaning more parliamentry procedure, or maybe actual Political Science? Iono, what think you? I've been studying Communalism, Libertarian Municipalism, and Democratic Confederalism and how it could be applied to virtual societies(or relation to managing my club). Anyhow, those topics are worth a look at, but I found this interesting thing too: Histocracy http://histocracy.com/

kelly

This website is dedicated to histocracy, a system of government tha...

Nohbdy Ahtall

Not to be political hah, but this is perhaps leaning more parliamentry procedure, or maybe actual Political Science? Iono, what think you? I've been studying Communalism, Libertarian Municipalism, and Democratic Confederalism and how it could be applied to virtual societies(or relation to managing my club). Anyhow, those topics are worth a look at, but I found this interesting thing too: Histocracy http://histocracy.com/

Great you bring that up - good thoughts in there - after all the mess seen on all levels and directions, I am back leaning toward AI controlled resource allocation - predicted by my much hated physic teacher 30 years ago, well - and Zeitgeist's technocrats ...

https://matduggan.com/programming-in-the/ - still puzzled about it but I guess they will leave it running up the wall - if they can build them that high

(edited)

Programming in the Apocalypse

A climate change what-if Over a few beers...Growing up, I was obsessed with space. Like many tech workers, I consumed everything I could find about space and space travel. Young me was convinced we were on the verge of space travel, imagining I would live to see colonies on

9:54 PM

hn comments : https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31559920

drewbug01

Programming in the Apocalypse

https://youtu.be/gefKod-IJrQ

Infinite Flow

Terence Mckenna - Intelligence, Evil and Ignorance

1

Nohbdy Ahtall

https://youtu.be/gefKod-IJrQ

nice catch, the second half of the vid was bit weird/off but for the rest of it - nailed.

@Mossdew Whoah, you've been wayy more active recently and I see you around often suddenly! Sorry if I haven't done too much on the Guilded server :3 I am still doing all kinds of MD0 license discussion! Often using your cyberciv as an example, hard not to xD

Nohbdy Ahtall

@Mossdew Whoah, you've been wayy more active recently and I see you around often suddenly! Sorry if I haven't done too much on the Guilded server :3 I am still doing all kinds of MD0 license discussion! Often using your cyberciv as an example, hard not to xD

You've done more than most. Ideas are more than enough, and you share plenty. That includes those two images you sent over, they make a great avatar placeholder for freshly joined cybernauts. Did you hear one more is coming on-board, Bunfertross? Any progress on your idea for a game using OSE equipment? (edited)

@Mossdew has reached level 2. GG!

Mossdew

You've done more than most. Ideas are more than enough, and you share plenty. That includes those two images you sent over, they make a great avatar placeholder for freshly joined cybernauts. Did you hear one more is coming on-board, Bunfertross? Any progress on your idea for a game using OSE equipment? (edited)

Sounds familiar but not really. Ohh gahh yes that idea - ultimately inspired by the Powercube most of all! Whellp, I've been learning Godot more these days (using the alpha versions, alpha 9 is out), buut no real progress, it is very fun to learn though. Lack of tutorials, but great documentation. You should check it out, I'm considering it for non-game functions, such a good UI system, I think!

I've been learning Flutter lately for game dev

5:10 AM

I want to make a 2d arena game with mesh networking (edited)

Mesh networking! Ahhh... reminds me of Worlds Adrift, as they needed SpatialOS to work. And of course, they couldn't afford the costs, and so the whole thing is gone, my favorite online game haha.

yeah, mesh networking is hard

5:34 AM

but the payoff will be enormous

5:38 AM

you're thinking of making a game based on OSE equipment?

there's another game developer on Discord also working on mesh networking for Flutter

mitchell

you're thinking of making a game based on OSE equipment?

I think I'd need to be extra extra sure that I can make, for example, CC0 licensed content(assets, the game itself maybe) while portraying OSE equipment. I've always had this idea before OSE ever existed, and just kinda "winging it" with what the machines might actually be, but I'd prefer if those playing it would gain interest in a real-world project. Of course, since then there's been minecraft factorio and a huge assortment of similar concepts, unsure if any of them have really nailed what I have in mind though. Maybe the game "Eco" comes closest? Eh, needs more respect for space exploration/habitats(Dyson Sphere Project maybe comes close then? Not intending to be so Factorio-like though either).

6:26 AM

OH I forgot, one idea was actually to not even release certain machines in the game until they exist in real life, so maybe anyone interested in the game's machinery progress would be reflected by what reality had to offer. Maybe leading to participation in OSE's progress hah.

6:26 AM

"Hey Nohbdy, can you upgrade the Powercube?" "Yes, as soon as that upgrade happens in OSE" xD

what is Powercube?

https://youtu.be/B3wC5ukAYA4 OSE's Powercube, part of the GVCS! Here's a lovely video

Marcin Jakubowski

Powercube v7 Assembly by Open Source Ecology

6:28 AM

I love the modularity aspect of it.

I call this the... er... chicken-farmhand:

Is that that keyboard thing?

Eric Lotze

Is that that keyboard thing?

Yes! "Azeron Cyborg Compact" specifically, newest one. I just ordered one, so I'll have first-hand experience at some point now - and believe me, I'm thinking "tools" over games. Blender, Krita, and who knows what else. Here's the color scheme I got(which did not cost extra, if you customize specific things that don't add to it):

8:23 AM

Also, way too much fun was had using their customization tool https://store.azeron.eu/customize

I saw something on Open Source Stenography Stuff, and i've been meaning to document that

9:39 AM

Main application was damn fast typing, but also for conversational shit like i'm doing right now; it seemed neat

9:39 AM

ALSO on the note of Blender and Stuff

9:40 AM

I found an open source "Space Mouse" type thing for CAD/6DOF in general

9:40 AM

Also i want to make some shit like this someday:

9:40 AM

or even

9:40 AM

9:41 AM

This isn't a color grading panel; this is an advanced color grading panel lol

Hi, not sure where to post this, my be a new channel 'osr-plastic' or so, however - we keep pumping micro articles about machining, recycling, etc... let's start with drilling equipment - still busy completing the system with completion of smart amazon, google links, ... https://forum.osr-plastic.org/t/drill-press-equipment/8449

Drill Press Equipment

1. Semi-professional drilling equipment The drill-press is one of the more important machine in a metal workshop. Don’t save money here! It has to be big and heavy - for safety reasons. Cheap CNC vise (250 Euro) - mostly used for small parts and drilling series ‘123 blocks’ - used for holding small parts with bolts Drillpress table’s t-sl...

Last footage of PP/PH/OSR Low-Tech, another project ruined by PreciousPlastic Mafia, congrats

https://www.tiktok.com/@plastichub7/video/7113209692037451014?is_copy_url=1&is_from_webapp=v1&lang=en If you've got any questions about, be my guest

plastichub7 on TikTok

#PlasticHub / #PreciousPlastic Machines

https://youtu.be/87JJ7WkRpLc

quadmovr

8 kW per kg | This is how it sounds | Drone ASMR

I've decided upon a new short phrase to utilize for people's ideas:

If it's proprietary, I wish you failure. If it's open, I wish you success.

Nohbdy Ahtall

I've decided upon a new short phrase to utilize for people's ideas:

If it's proprietary, I wish you failure. If it's open, I wish you success.

that should be moved to #open-source-memes IMO. Not going down that rabbit hole but nothing really changed, top #100 tech firms keep dictating it, protocols, or whatever you need to call it #success ...

@American Fascism has reached level 4. GG!

American Fascism

that should be moved to #open-source-memes IMO. Not going down that rabbit hole but nothing really changed, top #100 tech firms keep dictating it, protocols, or whatever you need to call it #success ...

True, but - I must say this is perhaps the most critical I've seen of the world towards all kinds of systemic problems. I still think technology is often treated as the "invisible people doing stuff", so that's the main hurdle, but I do see a wonderful surge towards radically ousting corporatocracies, the concept of success, and much more. We'll seee!

Nice food to get sleep and rest my friend, amen

https://youtu.be/kbnTKuIOTdw Huh, this gave me some quick basic aerodynamics realizations, nice.

rctestflight

RAM Effect Vehicle - A New Type of Aircraft?

Nohbdy Ahtall

https://youtu.be/kbnTKuIOTdw Huh, this gave me some quick basic aerodynamics realizations, nice.

Also (and this is probably highly on-topic so maybe I'll look for where this would fit in wiki) the guy used "K-705" to waterproof - which, since I had Obsidian.md ready I wanted to check it out, make some notes, and found this: https://youtu.be/WkyHEI0-xPw

VoltLog

Testing Kafuter Adhesives For Electronics | Voltlog #331

Now let's repeat that study on Discord messages. https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2102061118#fig03 (edited)

PNAS

Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (PNAS), a peer reviewed journal of the National Academy of Sciences (NAS) - an authoritative source of high-impact, original research that broadly spans the biological, physical, and social sciences.

Just checkin' in on ye ol' @Eric Lotze - I hope all is well! Miss the Eric!

https://youtu.be/CTsfWLMO4ho

Thought Slime

Hard work is a grift.

https://youtu.be/bZGRqw4tMpU

Rym DeCoster

Rare Game Mechanics -- PAX Unplugged 2021

https://github.com/samclane/Discordia

GitHub - samclane/Discordia: MUD (Multi-User Dungeon) for Discord.

MUD (Multi-User Dungeon) for Discord. . Contribute to samclane/Discordia development by creating an account on GitHub.

Other than the weird commas perhaps, I choose this. (Windows user, yeahh)

in case you're bored as me

http://files.osr-plastic.org/files/machines/injection/myriad-spring/ still looking for books about cross-functional immigration though ... i guess we put a motor or hydraulic on it - if it's fast enough, to drive the plunger, and the mold clamp .. exciting

okey, I hope Eric recovers sometime, in the meantime, I keep spamming

https://forum.osr-plastic.org/t/tiktok-resources/ - general Tiktok directory - feel free to edit or add! Discourse became slick and comfy, my first choice to run, maintain directories, libraries, news, and may be trade. If you need more 'editor' plugins, let me know - just got into it ...

TikTok Resources

Sales/Business Advice https://www.tiktok.com/@salesskillschool https://www.tiktok.com/@ahormozi https://www.tiktok.com/@b2bjade - B2B & marketing tips Great Explain Guys / Bears https://www.tiktok.com/@phlndrws https://www.tiktok.com/@sunny…river Philosophy https://www.tiktok.com/@americanbaron (lovely questions about life, and...

here a bit taste & hope that there are still vital and healthy 'communities'

Discord somehow turned out to be pretty toxic overall though (https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&query=discord%20&sort=byPopularity&type=story) ... https://meta.discourse.org/t/try-out-the-new-sidebar-and-notification-menus/238821 (edited)

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American Fascism

okey, I hope Eric recovers sometime, in the meantime, I keep spamming

https://forum.osr-plastic.org/t/tiktok-resources/ - general Tiktok directory - feel free to edit or add! Discourse became slick and comfy, my first choice to run, maintain directories, libraries, news, and may be trade. If you need more 'editor' plugins, let me know - just got into it ...

What happened to Eric?

yfgame

What happened to Eric?

dunno, last time I heard that he was taking welding classes, so he might have left this planet ...

yfgame

What happened to Eric?

how's it going with your robot project actually - did spend a fair a amount time thinking about again but came to no conclusions except being in a beautiful nowhere instead

7:08 PM

https://www.tiktok.com/@americanbaron/video/7122279621349117230?is_copy_url=1&is_from_webapp=v1

American Fascism

how's it going with your robot project actually - did spend a fair a amount time thinking about again but came to no conclusions except being in a beautiful nowhere instead

Still working on it Hope it will end up somewhere! Thanks!

@Taire - how's it going with the clamp ? got all the parts for a smaller version. ejection fuckery still puzzles me but I guess that will clear up with those ready to go mould bases ... https://osr-plastic.org/machines/102_lucy-mini.html

102_lucy Mini

Overview Build Resources Media Mold Clamp for Semi Automatic injection on OSR extruders Features Rigid, flexible and modular framework – enabling hac...

@American Fascism has reached level 6. GG!

Neat

Taire

Neat

not really, 3 point toggle might be sufficient for that sizes ...

Ehh

8:45 AM

This look cooler CoolFox

well, this here needs around 48 bushings less

2:37 PM

Well

5:50 PM

Myne better form. Nice stainless with brass bushing

That an automatic injection molding machine?

Ye

@Taire has reached level 3. GG!

Nice

merry chrismas everyone, award winning pic, the author got a bit in trouble with the jury, using AI ...

7:25 PM

for inspiration

2

7:25 PM

knowledge base updated for thermal misconfiguration devices

https://kb.osr-plastic.org/academy/build/injection/

Injection Machine

Warning / Remarks This machine is known as rather disapointing and difficult to operate. Please consider an arbor injector instead. Plunger diameter should have a clearance of exactly 0.1mm to the barrel. If applicable, please use a brass or bronze tip for the plunger. This reduces contact to the barrel and friction. Using plumping connectors ad...

6:41 PM

yet to be figured, cheap alternative to heatbands - currently 20 E per pop, never tried gas nor getting a PID for it ... ideas are welcome - there are places where you can sell a heated metal pipe for whopping 5k

engineers vs lovers, in short https://www.tiktok.com/@cherry.ki/video/7191775575034334469

same outcome, the bloody $$, or whatever comes, along ... when you got it right, or as kat babe said it, 'it's simple as that' ....

@Yasin vs. the Gang has reached level 6. GG!

in the meantime, i wont hide you this one, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i79JfojgWjs&list=PLZ-mqBAzSeD4dipJ6Q_w8D-XLT4IP3f-B&index=24

CopeLtda2

Plant43 - Halflight

2:40 AM

digital exploitation, in short, for the so called community, https://www.tiktok.com/@dsofai/video/7192735907068300587

The Dark Side of AI on TikTok

#tiktok #meta #amazon #google #technology #artificialintelligence #machinelearning #AI #tech #decentralization #web3 #blockchain #blockchaintechnology

2:41 AM

in the meantime, in Africa, https://www.tiktok.com/@aketchjoywinnie/video/7187306086024711467

Aketch Joy Winnie on TikTok

#africaisgold #africa #foryou #fyp #adayinmylife #foryoupage #village

2:42 AM

Last not but least, catch of the week https://www.tiktok.com/@shwinnabego/video/7168650551062809902 - nailed, it's 3>, that's all what's left

Ashwinn

brand, biz, mkting on TikTok

This pepsi logo redesign deck is one of the more insane things ive seen #branding #graphicdesign #advertising #greenscreen #logodesign

https://www.livescience.com/50827-safest-part-of-train.html#:~:text=Safety%20experts%20also%20recommend%20choosing,behind%2C%20according%20to%20the%20FRA.

Where Is the Safest Place to Sit on a Train?

@justDave , @katharinaelleke incredible, PreciousPlastic mafia couldn't resist to fuck another user support response / discussion, banning/kicking, as needed to cover all the cheating and lies I hope you're aware, people paying already a tremendous price for you $%&^$%&%^&

8:57 PM

would have been surprised to see any of the so called top bazar sellers / gestapo getting their hands dirty, in 5 years, zero contribs

8:59 PM

but hey, happy to see Mattia with a new hat - it's all what matters, right ?

What happened to it?

sabotaged, what else. already noticed that younger generations replaced conflict resolution with plain censorship, whatever serves to protect their 'integrity', till the bitter end - no matter what interesting case nonetheless, how to keep knowledge 'free' (and it's relations with humans therein) from dictatorship, abuse, etc... as already mentioned blockchains, etc.. come to mind again, but no idea how this could really work

long way to go

anyone an idea how to build an OS version of that : https://www.chatpdf.com/ ? not really up-to-date ...

ChatPDF is the fast and easy way to chat with any PDF, free and without sign-in. Talk to books, research papers, manuals, essays, legal contracts, whatever you have! The intelligence revolution is here, ChatGPT was just the beginning!

1:20 PM

output is acceptable for support questions - funny too

I was going through my feed, and a goofy voice acting channel posting a video announcing they got one of these, neat concept: https://www.acousticbooth-studiobox.com/premium-isolation-booth.html

STUDIOBOX Premium - Modular sound isolation booth

Low, controlled reverberation time, sound insulation and a pleasant room climate for audio recording and multiple research applications.

4:49 AM

https://youtu.be/E__1SGdOMTE

Gianni Matragrano

Gianni Matragrano: Now with Studiobricks

they just do goofy soundbites t h e a l g o r y t h m recommended ages ago (i think some "proper" commercial voice acting too, but yeah) : https://youtu.be/NnDe2u5M7e8

Gianni Matragrano

Columbo in... "Backwards Liability"

Acoustic Design is wild though, i need to read up on it more sometime (edited)

5:37 AM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Architectural_acoustics

Architectural acoustics

Architectural acoustics (also known as building acoustics) is the science and engineering of achieving a good sound within a building and is a branch of acoustical engineering. The first application of modern scientific methods to architectural acoustics was carried out by the American physicist Wallace Sabine in the Fogg Museum lecture room. H...

A bit steam punk for a change

https://forum.osr-plastic.org/t/injection-katbot/

Here you go https://pointerpointer.com/

pointerpointer.com

Please hold still while we locate your pointer...

1

Nohbdy Ahtall

Here you go https://pointerpointer.com/

someone should write an animator for that

7:42 PM

fuck, just got my Arduino-Portenta, 260e on Amazon, 400 with VAT, porn : https://git.osr-plastic.org/osr-plastic/osr-firmware/src/branch/master/print-head-hydra/vendor/arduino/AKX00032-schematics.pdf | plenty of IO, built-ins, ... a pain to setup, eons to compile, and guess what, forget about std ! https://www.embeddedrelated.com/thread/16614/using-stl-library-and-modern-c-on-arm-cortex-m7-embedded-device-with-limited-resources 2023, planetearth

Using STL Library and Modern C++ on ARM Cortex-M7 Embedded Device w...

I'm developing for an ARM Cortex-M7 microcontroller [https://www.st.com/en/microcontrollers-microprocessors/stm32f7-series.html], running...

7:42 PM

7:44 PM

but hey, at least c++ seems to be supported, on that fancy doc pages

- https://developer.arm.com/Tools%20and%20Software/GNU%20Toolchain#Support-and-Training

Arm GNU Toolchain

Use new features from recent Arm Architecture and from open-source projects GCC, Binutils, glibc, Newlib, and GDB.

in case you're bored, TikTok got actually good content, Germany in free fall, with it China as predicted 16 months ago :), USA making it worst (or better), rebuilding local manufacturing https://www.tiktok.com/@shahibolsen.clips/video/7305490418945363232 https://www.tiktok.com/@bank43525

TikTok · Shahid Bolsen Clips

3397 likes, 165 comments. “Freedom of speech, expression, assembly etc”

bank on TikTok

@bank43525 28.6k Followers, 1 Following, 177.4k Likes - Watch awesome short videos created by bank

https://youtu.be/d_n_gmINZTI?si=onmYSMFJOdyJ4sHT

Mara

Weird Art, Mixed Media & Unrestricted Access to the Internet

here we go, https://www.tiktok.com/@pearlmania500/video/7345961470548512043 - TikTok, from dance movies, trauma healing, the best maker vids ever; quasi's the whole world's first virtual refugee to finally share, stand up, speak up - the US gov. not ok, perhaps it's using your WIFI :)))

TikTok · Pearlmania500

878.2K likes, 38K comments. “Its a big club and you aint in it - George Carlin”

4:10 PM

Same fascism originating from this Maniac Macron, now spreading to Canada, https://francesoir.fr/opinions-tribunes/delation-censure-et-corruption-les-seuls-secteurs-dont-nos-dirigeants-favorisent

Délation, censure et corruption, les seuls secteurs dont nos dirige...

TRIBUNE - Mercredi 6 mars dernier, l’Assemblée nationale votait une loi paraissant assez surréaliste dans une société qui se prétend libérale. Je vous en livre un extrait :

4:15 PM

Nice, let's say they're afraid, and they have good reasons :)))

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYt6uDr-PHQ

Brackeys

The Future of Game Development

Nohbdy Ahtall

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYt6uDr-PHQ

could be from 25 years ago :))

2:27 PM

Still waiting for AI to kick in, beyond procedural landscapes, wrapping up universal objects in VPLs :))

Nohbdy Ahtall

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYt6uDr-PHQ

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120907/

eXistenZ (1999) ⭐ 6.8 | Horror, Mystery, Sci-Fi

1h 37m | R

2:33 PM

I wish our kids would play more this game called reality ...

way too pay to play

Amazon showing the products i was really searching for when i typed Home Biogas: https://a.co/d/cIyJGQF

LESGAULEST Throw Pillow Cover (18x18 inch) - Biogas Container Lazy ...

LESGAULEST Throw Pillow Cover (18x18 inch) - Biogas Container Lazy Natural Gas Produce

1

random : anatomy of a semiconductor plant

https://www.construction-physics.com/p/how-to-build-a-20-billion-semiconductor | there's just a handful vendors, owning the world of tomorrow ...

How to Build a $20 Billion Semiconductor Fab

For the last several decades, one avenue of technological progress has towered over nearly everything else: semiconductors. Semiconductors are materials that can have their conductivity varied by many orders of magnitude, which makes it possible to selectively block and allow the flow of electrons. This property makes it possible to manufacture ...

5:30 PM

random, durable meets capitalism : https://digitalcosmonaut.com/superfest-ceverit-glass-ddr/

Digital Cosmonaut

Superfest - The (almost) unbreakable East German Glass

Originally named ceverit, Superfest was an extremely durable glass patented and developed in 1979 in East Germany to combat excessive glass waste.

5:32 PM

random, great food, https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Distributed_Market_Substitution | indeed, after crashing 5+ 50$ cordless drills, I am happy with my 400$ Milwaukee, battery last 5 weeks, tapping up to M10, priceless

Distributed Market Substitution

fun stuff, manual machines

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C4v8j2NR41s/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

gandyworks

Changing the ratios manually and keeping a rough count of the strokes for even spacing. Substantial moire manifestation #mechanicaldrawing #moire #analog #manualmachining #drawingmachine #inkonpaper #ratio

Likes

73251

9:35 PM

great exercise for the young Opensource fan, applying perhaps ML skills to turn this thing into a plotter

9:37 PM

and here for our 3D Print fans, could work for big pots as well

https://www.instagram.com/p/CvNOfKhotvS

engineerplace

In 2014 @daniel_de_bruin built a gravity powered 3D printer!

Follow @engineerplace for more! Via: @daniel_de_bruin #technology #innovation #fabricate #sciences #innovations #mechanicwork #inventions #mechaniclife #instatech #futuretech #techlife #innovators #engineeringtech #3dprinting #danieldebruin #3dprint

Likes

4268

9:38 PM

more 'humans are awesome' in the random feed : https://forum.osr-plastic.org/t/random/10083

random : https://www.tiktok.com/@krystle.channel/video/7367292238575209774

TikTok · Krystle.channel

9154 likes, 779 comments. “Technology like TikTok and artificial intelligence is power in the peoples hands. Because it’s allowing us a new way to collaborate and communicate without middlemen

”

in case you're bored, comparing compilers, ... the blue range is for simple arithmetic, on AVR https://godbolt.org/

Compiler Explorer

9:57 PM

just tried Google Gemini-Advanced, quite alright, compared to lazy ChatGPT, Claude still exclusive ..

alrighty, just to keep this server alive

Gemini got tuning capabilities ! https://ai.google.dev/gemini-api/docs/model-tuning/ai-studio And yet, as ChatGPT, sucks at simple image processing

3:11 PM

And here another list of tools : https://forum.osr-plastic.org/t/ai-tools/11060 - will add more over time, notice the Avatar Video Gen, darn good (edited)

3:11 PM

https://www.arcads.ai/

Arcads - Create engaging video ads using AI

Generate high-quality marketing videos quickly with Arcads, an AI-powered app that transforms a basic product link or text into engaging short video ads.

found it, messy set, paintings on the floor, no problem : https://cloud.google.com/vertex-ai/generative-ai/docs/image/edit-inpainting

and another one, https://novita.ai/product/replace-object - fun stuff, watermark removal works great so far

AI-Powered Object Replacement

Novita.ai utilizes advanced AI to realistically replace objects in photos with other objects of your choosing. Seamlessly integrate any object into images.

Lovely, just handed over a screenshot of an Amazon Product Detail Display, prompt =

create a list of fields, and widgets for this product display : https://www.amazon.es/Swan-Desayuno-Tostadora-rebanadas-Microondas/dp/B08CL2WQ68, as markdown table

8:45 PM

https://www.perplexity.ai/

8:47 PM

then, unlike ChatGPT and others, it actually honors the definition of "all", asking for all cities on mars will indeed return the exact list, ChatGPT/Gemini greedily aborts after 2-3 items

const BarcelonaTowns = {
  Badalona: { lat: "41.4501", lon: "2.2406" },
  lHospitaletDeLlobregat: { lat: "41.3681", lon: "2.1077" },
  SantaColomaDeGramenet: { lat: "41.4433", lon: "2.2085" },
  // Add more towns here as needed
};

hilarious, decades of empty nonsense flooding the net, now AI just keeps inflating all over, 99% bullshit guaranteed

create a product description : https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Desktop-SJ35-Extruder-Pelletizer-Granulating-Line_1600824466341.html?spm=a2700.galleryofferlist.normal_offer.d_image.32fea006YJQPlm

- Claude3 https://app.anakin.ai/chat : Based on the product details provided on the Alibaba link, here's a product description for the Desktop SJ35 Extruder Pelletizer Granulating Line: The Desktop SJ35 Extruder Pelletizer Granulating Line is a compact and versatile machine designed for efficient plastic pelletizing and granulating processes. This desktop-sized unit is ideal for small-scale production, research and development, or educational purposes. Featuring a robust construction, the SJ35 is equipped with a single-screw extruder that delivers consistent and reliable performance. The extruder is capable of processing a wide range of thermoplastic materials, including PVC, PP, PE, ABS, and more. With a pelletizing capacity of 15-35 kg/h, this machine offers a perfect balance between productivity and compactness. The integrated pelletizing system ensures precise cutting and cooling of the extruded material, resulting in uniform and high-quality plastic pellets.

10:59 AM

The SJ35 is designed with user-friendliness in mind. Its compact size and desktop configuration make it easy to install and operate in limited spaces. The machine also features a control panel with intuitive controls, allowing for easy adjustment of parameters such as temperature, speed, and cutting settings. Safety is a top priority with the SJ35, as it incorporates multiple safety features, including overload protection, emergency stop, and guarding mechanisms, ensuring safe operation and minimizing potential hazards. This desktop extruder pelletizer granulating line is an excellent choice for small-scale plastic processing applications, providing versatility, efficiency, and reliability in a compact package. Whether you're a researcher, educator, or a small-scale manufacturer, the Desktop SJ35 Extruder Pelletizer Granulating Line offers a cost-effective solution for your plastic pelletizing and granulating needs.

11:00 AM

---- Narrowing the output :

create a modest, honest product description : https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Desktop-SJ35-Extruder-Pelletizer-Granulating-Line_1600824466341.html?spm=a2700.galleryofferlist.normal_offer.d_image.32fea006YJQPlm

:

11:00 AM

The Desktop SJ35 Extruder Pelletizer Granulating Line is a compact machine designed for small-scale plastic pelletizing and granulating processes. While not suitable for large-scale industrial production, it offers a modest solution for research, educational purposes, or small-scale manufacturing.

11:01 AM

While the SJ35 incorporates some safety features, such as overload protection and emergency stop, it is important to note that it is not designed for heavy-duty industrial use and may have limitations in terms of durability and performance when compared to larger, more robust pelletizing systems.

11:01 AM

#wearecompletelyfucked

#unlearnall (edited)

Thats getting better by the week, item comparsion :

# compare these items, eg: features, specs, prices, .. as markdown table : 

1. https://shop.osr-plastic.org/injection/katbot/  
2. https://plasticpreneur.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/IMK2_Injection-Moulding-Machine_machine-data-sheet_plasticpreneur_2024.pdf
3. https://holimaker.fr/holipress/

Tell me you prefer Katbot over the others, without telling me :))

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5:05 PM

@katharinaelleke

5:06 PM

a few minutes before : | Feature | KatBot-Pro | IMK2 Injection Moulding Machine | HoliPress 38 | |-------------------------------|-------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------| | Manufacturer | OSR-Plastic | Plasticpreneur | HoliMaker | | Dimensions (L x W x H) | 70 x 45 x 45 cm | 90 x 70 x 160 cm | 240 x 410 x 715 mm | | Weight | 27 kg | 30.5 kg | 35 kg | | Shot Size/Volume | 145 g | 115 g | 38 cm³ | | Voltage | 220V/110V | 100-240V, 50-60 Hz | 400W |

@NoorPro has reached level 5. GG!

wtf, you need another pro subscription on humanity's communication backbone, just for posting markdown tables

In the meantime, #notgivingafuck https://www.instagram.com/p/C5sGVAfLpTS

laranjasolta

Este é Handy Geng, um youtuber chinês reconhecido por suas invenções criativas. O veículo, feito principalmente de PVC e madeira, é um trailer de pesca anfíbio que pode percorrer estradas e navegar sobre as águas.

️ Apesar de sua simplicidade, este curioso projeto de veículo anfíbio é bem completo, contando com TV, ventilador, iluminação, gr...

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random, no C64 or Amiga collection :)) https://www.instagram.com/p/C7gSwemoV-0/ your mini-me, it's in the happening : https://www.instagram.com/p/C6uS0-hSKQz/ (edited)

AI - OS Playground: http://osr@osr-plastic.org (user:free@osr-plastic.org | password: free@osr-plastic.org). Image processing : use llava! There are more models, https://ollama.com/library, you can sign up for new sessions as well (edited)

1:56 PM

1:57 PM

otherwise : https://lmstudio.ai/

LM Studio - Discover and run local LLMs

Find, download, and experiment with local LLMs

After lonely in a hotel room, debugging a mysterious UDP stream, read 'debugging western websites', in the Antarctica https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34912300 https://brr.fyi/posts/engineering-for-slow-internet

nop_slide

Reverse engineering a mysterious UDP stream in my hotel (2016)

Engineering for Slow Internet – brr

How to minimize user frustration in Antarctica.

lovely, the times of writing awful code and regular expressions are counted

3:03 PM

yet to be figured : compose new models, with multi-expert architecture and real-time data access ( voice, vision, and perhaps sensor data) (edited)

yammi, PDF retrival works well, after punching it strong enough, making all explicit,

--query='extract ALL! items as markdown table (item name (without 304 or ST37)  / price / quantity / material (whereby ST37 is steel, and 304 is stainless)) , add the totals (from the pdf, dont calculate it) at the end

OS models unfortunately a bit slow and do make stuff up

4:29 PM

Looks like we need a new language for all that

Amen, https://www.tiktok.com/@thecoffeejesus/video/7369429237100465438

TikTok · Just Some Guy

56.8K likes, 3979 comments. “Feel the AGI they said… :/”

the ultimate dive into bullshit collection:

Most tech content is bullshit

“One of the great commandments of science is, "Mistrust arguments from authority." Too many such arguments have proved too painfully wrong. Authorities must prove their contentions like everybody else.” ~ Carl Sagan

6:31 PM

goes well with the lessons found in Buddhism, trust your master, dont trust anyone (edited)

nice, src: https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Open_Source_Product_Development prompt: write this as markdown, each branch as chapter, bullet points, numbered, for mermaid

Open Source Product Development

1:32 PM

graph TB
    A[Open Source Product Development - Milestones 2016-2017 Roadmap]

    A --> A1[Design]
    A --> B1[CAD]
    A --> C1[Documentation]
    A --> D1[Collaboration Architecture]
    A --> E1[Enterprise]
    A --> F1[Build]

    A1 --> A2[Core Design Information Architecture]
    A1 --> A3[Machine Design Guides]
    A1 --> A4[SME Advisory Team Formed]
    A1 --> A5[Design Webinars]
    A1 --> A6[Test-Driven Design Webinars]
    A1 --> A7[Design-Build School]

    B1 --> B2[Open Source 3D CAD - FreeCAD Instructionals]
    B1 --> B3[FreeCAD Part Libraries Developed]
    B1 --> B4[CAE, CAM, exploded part animations, reverse engineering, 3D scanning, architecture design]
    B1 --> B5[File Conversion Tool]
    B1 --> B6[Cloud Collaborative CAD Solution]

    C1 --> C2[Core Documentation Information Architecture]
    C1 --> C3[Wiki Part Library Templates]
    C1 --> C4[Semantic Mediawiki Information Architecture Standards]
    C1 --> C5[Real-time Build Documentation Protocols]
    C1 --> C6[Collaborative Video Editing Protocols]
    C1 --> C7[Book/Manual Publishing]

    D1 --> D2[Role Architecture]
    D1 --> D3[Robust Identity/Login]
    D1 --> D4[Collaborative Literacy Training]
    D1 --> D5[Development Forum + Issue Tracker]
    D1 --> D6[Upvoting Platform like Stack Overflow]
    D1 --> D7[Publishing Templates]
    D1 --> D8[Team Formation]

    E1 --> E2[Core Information Architecture]
    E1 --> E3[OS Mass Email]
    E1 --> E4[Core Business Competency Training]
    E1 --> E5[Open Business Models Library]
    E1 --> E6[Entrepreneur-in-Residence Program]
    E1 --> E7[Collaborative Marketing Strategy]

    F1 --> F2[Replicable Build Workshop Model]
    F1 --> F3[Local Sourcing Development]
    F1 --> F4[Product Ecology for Flexible Fabrication]
    F1 --> F5[Open Source Construction]
    F1 --> F6[Open Source Micro Factory]
    F1 --> F7[Open Source Micro Factory Equipment]

Podcast : 'AI' & Semiconductors : The Software Behind Silicon (with Synopsys Founder Aart de Geus and CEO Sassine Ghazi) https://www.acquired.fm/episodes/the-software-behind-silicon-with-synopsys-founder-aart-de-geus-and-ceo-sassine-ghazi

The Software Behind Silicon (with Synopsys Founder Aart de Geus and...

Learn about the $80 billion company that makes the software behind AI, mobile, and automotive chips. Plus: are we at the end of Moore's Law?

9:34 PM

@Roland : unlikely we're tuning models for circuits tho

couldn't even find anything useful for dealing with points in 2D ... \

and in case you're bored, ChatGPTo image encoding https://www.oranlooney.com/post/gpt-cnn/

A Picture is Worth 170 Tokens: How Does GPT-4o Encode Images? - Ora...

Here’s a fact: GPT-4o charges 170 tokens to process each 512x512 tile used in high-res mode. At ~0.75 tokens/word, this suggests a picture is worth about 227 words—only a factor of four off from the traditional saying. (There’s also an 85 tokens charge for a low-res ‘master thumbnail’ of each picture and higher resolution images are broken into ...

not too bad, 'create a chess board, ... with check mate, indicated with red lines' , using gpt-4-1106-vision-preview

@NoorPro has reached level 6. GG!

same for welding instructions

6:42 PM

guessing part dimensions

6:43 PM

or inspection reports:

6:44 PM

and with a bit tuning, creating work piece measurements, on a heidenhain, let's hope its not crashing

6:45 PM

and didnt miss to ruin my day, creating the GCode to weld it on the CNC instead :))

6:47 PM

'create a solved maze, in SVG' :)) lazy lazy

6:52 PM

and here the HQ intro : https://www.tiktok.com/@rileybrown.ai/video/7369422671806876970 #whenikissedtheteacher

TikTok · Riley Brown

4782 likes, 235 comments. “This image is AI generated. Will it replace canva? Only time will tell.”

cute little movie, https://www.imdb.com/title/tt12758060/?ref_=tt_rvi_tt_i_3 the equation for self-run fits on one line, nice exercise - and no license needed

Tetris (2023) ⭐ 7.4 | Biography, Drama, History

1h 58m | R

save that bee, save that car, 'memorize these sounds', legit case for a cool AI app : https://www.instagram.com/p/C7WWm9oRMEa/

master_driver666

How to judge engine failure through abnormal noise.#driving #skills #knowledge #fpy

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2:00 PM

after drilling kilometers through metal, I'd love to have something like this on my drillpress as well

random : AI meets 'Education' : https://www.chatterpulseai.com/blog/ai-in-education-may-require-us-to-return-to-15th-century-pedagogy/?r=hn

10:59 PM

'Knowledge is in the process of being “commoditized.” The marginal value of any fact is nearing zero. And we cannot change this.' - and yet, the privileged self proclaimed charlatans still control us, knowledge, trade, communication, even in so called 'Opensource' projects

(edited)

hotspot hopping in Gaza, https://globalvoices.org/2024/06/13/the-ingenious-network-tree-defying-gazas-connectivity-blockade/ still no Guifi node around ... https://guifi.net/

Mariam A.

The ingenious ‘network tree’ defying Gaza's connectivity blockade

An interview with renowned Italian film director Manolo Luppichini highlights grassroots efforts in Gaza to counter communication blockades using simple technologies like ”Web Trees,“ addressing global double standards and resistance of cultural genocide.

1:09 AM

and have a jump at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enTAromEeHo&ab_channel=FUTO

FUTO

Ian Clarke Breaks Down His Vision for a Decentralized Internet

1:12 AM

well, at least we tried right ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_distributed_file_systems

Comparison of distributed file systems

In computing, a distributed file system (DFS) or network file system is any file system that allows access to files from multiple hosts sharing via a computer network. This makes it possible for multiple users on multiple machines to share files and storage resources. Distributed file systems differ in their performance, mutability of content, h...

okey, lets start with the f*** good news : https://www.tiktok.com/@kellermankomedy/video/7373028074880765226 content industry keeps spiraling down : https://www.tiktok.com/@lizabeth.helian/video/7371913556616416545 - whilst new AI video generators unleash plenty of power at your finger tips : https://www.tiktok.com/@iamkylebalmer/video/7362126294244494625 (AI rat race, east vs sleepy west) take care of your underwear : https://www.tiktok.com/@elle.cordova/video/7381122928118615327 my fav. https://www.tiktok.com/@pissedmagistus/video/7378162895944748320 - suffering increasingly shadow banning

TikTok · The Real Kellerman

4607 likes, 175 comments. “May 25, 2024”

TikTok · lizabeth.helian

24.3K likes, 3920 comments. Check out lizabeth.helian’s video.

TikTok · iamkylebalmer

587 likes, 91 comments. “China’s AI progress outstrips the West. And we’re not paying attention. Instead, as always, we are getting bogged down in unimportant short term political crap”

TikTok · Elle Cordova

23.7K likes, 433 comments. “Should have just upgraded to Memory Keeper premium”

TikTok · PissedMagistus

14K likes, 463 comments. “How to make people participate.”

6:53 PM

and the best for the rest, and literally a bible of OSHA violations, but getting shit done, for a fraction : https://www.instagram.com/smartest.worker/ #notgivingafu** (edited)

Smartest Workers (@smartest.worker) • Instagram photos and videos

3M Followers, 0 Following, 1,260 Posts - See Instagram photos and videos from Smartest Workers (@smartest.worker)

Alrighty, good bye static blogs / content

AI aided content creation : https://www.tiktok.com/@brandnat/video/7377753084048510215 - as mentioned a few months ago, will have to make the OSRL language public sometime

TikTok · Brand Nat | AI Automation

2969 likes, 127 comments. “New All in One blogging game changing tool!”

4:48 PM

consider her the AI queen of TikTok

(more here : https://www.tiktok.com/@iamkylebalmer/video/7380031930856754464) (edited)

Visit TikTok to discover videos!

Watch, follow, and discover more trending content.

4:48 PM

Amazon meets small business : https://www.tiktok.com/@iamtelesmar/video/7383105677377457451

TikTok · Christian Telesmar

86K likes, 9981 comments. “You can purchase the board game directly with me (and not Amazon) by going to www.DisparityTrap.com. As a board game creator with a master's degree education in business and a passion for social justice, I've found myself having to file for bankruptcy because Jeff Bezos and Amazon have stolen over $100k from my small b...

4:49 PM

Fundamental questions for the next 10 years : https://www.tiktok.com/@nate.b.jones/video/7380481688184409374

TikTok · Nate

15.2K likes, 1259 comments. “What’s your take on these 3?”

4:50 PM

Nothing new, even my mother in law considers this planet as a concentration camp, at 84 : https://www.tiktok.com/@realinfinitetreasure/video/7376345543884180769

TikTok · InfiniteTreasur3

5014 likes, 787 comments. “So let's change it then!!!”

4:51 PM

Impossible in the west, China again stealing the show, https://www.tiktok.com/@_edison.motors/video/7369665655634660614

TikTok · Edison Motors

17.9K likes, 858 comments. “We visit a semi truck factory in China”

4:51 PM

AI driven SEO (on it:) :https://www.tiktok.com/@yangpten/video/7376400276107824391 - with make.com (edited)

TikTok · Yang

2997 likes, 50 comments. “How to build an AI SEO Parasite system in Make.com”

4:52 PM

Adobe : pay/accept or else : https://www.tiktok.com/@lukemianiyt/video/7377397680651177259 - thank you, another mega corp to walk away from - after so many years (edited)

TikTok · LukeMianiYT

213.8K likes, 10.1K comments. “#greenscreen is Adobe spying on hs? Wtf”

4:54 PM

and some sweets for the end, meet Elle, the wordsmith : https://www.tiktok.com/@elle.cordova/video/7313013492691389739

TikTok · Elle Cordova

97.3K likes, 3320 comments. “Seasons greetings from our little multinational empire

”

4:54 PM

Lovely, to see the clowns pulverizing hundreds of thousands to reinvent the wheel at PreciousPlastic Mega Movement

4:55 PM

meet the question module, 5 years later

4:55 PM

4:56 PM

not too bad, 200k likes for an authentic maker video on Tiktok, and 10 pity likes for a 'recycled' coaster from bottlelids, using a 10k setup, whilst feeding the mafia

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awesome, no more excuse for our minimal bottom effort losers component break down

6:25 PM

surprisingly, it seems to have eyes, traveling to the other side

6:26 PM

cant wait this thing is meshing it out, calculating all the wires, terminals, ... see you at the beach darling

10 dead already, ChatGPT has obviously its preferences, create an image, with an Kenyan flag, and a protester - the white saviors https://www.tiktok.com/@bossette55/video/7384447909674110214?q=kenya&t=1719328929904

TikTok · Bossie

❣️

1774 likes, 142 comments. “Reject Reject Reject

”

one wonders where the record high 565.000 kg in gold per year go ...

let's hope they kick those colonial bastards out, as in Senegal

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here the story behind, Omeriga again, plundering Africa https://www.tiktok.com/@ahfreaq/video/7382672793080581419?q=%23kenya&t=1719391912467

TikTok · Isa

59.5K likes, 3613 comments. “RUTO HAS SOLD KENYA TO THE WEST.”

@NoorPro has reached level 7. GG!

not that cozy for the elite

https://www.instagram.com/p/C8q9uk_oaLg/

aswaduhuru

Thieves being chased out of government

#occupymysoul #her - first they came for ... - now for your friends

#happygrannies https://www.tiktok.com/@brandnat/video/7374414344458718472 #fuckinggreatresearch (edited)

TikTok · Brand Nat | AI Automation

824 likes, 96 comments. “AI replacing friends, girlfriends, boyfriends? Do you think this is unlikely or more likely with AI chatbots/devices/robotics?”

https://youtu.be/wTQeMkYRMcw I haven't used this software yet but the video alone + the explanations make me feel he's built something I need for surely

CyanVoxel

I'm a Mess, so I'm Making My Own File Organizer [TagStudio]

Nohbdy Ahtall

https://youtu.be/wTQeMkYRMcw I haven't used this software yet but the video alone + the explanations make me feel he's built something I need for surely

that's right, a universal file explorer that supports various protocols, ssh, btfs (https://github.com/johang/btfs), Git as FS, and may be databases & rest services would come in handy, ideally folks can add plugins, for automation, app building, ... (edited)

10:52 AM

10:53 AM

nowadays, folks would have to purchase up to 2-3k in software, to extend their explorer with basic stuff, not to mention the mess on linux, leaving you with 5+ different file picker implementations

Among common tasks as image conversions (on it https://git.osr-plastic.org/osr-plastic/osr-media), video transformation, we have now AI support allowing us to take your vacation pictures for a ride, creating new videos on the fly, or just creating SEO meta data, or descriptions subject to wiki articles - btw. having Wikimedia as VFS would be great as well, I can think of 100+ great extensions to spam Marcin's public brain with endless but dynamic annotations https://www.tiktok.com/@stephengpope/video/7384476260098952491

TikTok · Stephen | Content Automation

386 likes, 15 comments. “In this video I give you part 1 of how to generate faceless videos from scratch! part 2, 3 and so on will be uploaded a day apart.”

11:51 AM

make.com became the ultimate choice hacking shit together, we can do certainly better, Yahoo tried it with NewsPipes, ...

11:52 AM

or transcribing Tiktok channels, plenty of good stuff : https://www.tiktok.com/@drrachelbarr/video/7380025467447053573 | https://www.tiktok.com/@kwrt_/video/7383844902213373227 (edited)

TikTok · DrRachelBarr

7616 likes, 723 comments. “Can AI acheive true consciousness?”

TikTok · Kort

189K likes, 5840 comments. “how to be free!”

Awesome, the preciousplastic gestapo not happy with an article, https://forum.osr-plastic.org/t/preciousplastic-review/11066 | asking again our server provider, defamtion, 'unfair competition', bla bla, @justDave

which raises the question of content resilience indeed, to my knowledge there are only limited options to proxy content of the dark web, ideas are welcome for the interested reader : https://www.tiktok.com/@lizthedeveloper/video/7363446392431594798 - its that easy, welcome to 2024 - dont forget your parents for the interview (as reported recently, 20%), xD (edited)

TikTok · future infinitive

️

5577 likes, 346 comments. “Alright someone in your generation needs to learn this as a process- here’s how to set up a raspberry pi to actually anonymously send data, but mind that receiving it is another story altogether.”

Overseen somewhere on OSE's wiki : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfKMq-rYtnc&t=1s&ab_channel=TEDxTalks #kidsarehonest #fighting-the-99%-bullshit #free-your-mind #the-pervert-west #mensworld (edited)

TEDx Talks

TEDxTucson George Land The Failure Of Success

11:32 AM

11:39 AM

Not surprised to see a so called moderator, of the 'opensource hardware' 'movement bathing himself, elevating the imposters, sharks and parasites with self-centered, self-important and entirely selfish comments, disregarding, and degrading everyone else who actually got their hands dirty for once

11:39 AM

@katharinaelleke - found a therapy place ? ... sign me up darling

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btw. whats up with OSE ? There's just Marcin, Alex and a Catarine left ... https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges&limit=500

I was an apprentice in 2021, I’d like to go back again for another workshop I know a few other apprentices spent the winter of 2021 there, but I don’t directly know anyone who stayed after that

When I feel that the D3D Pro v23.12 documentation is complete I will be doing a workshop in the Port Huron area! I will be posting about it a lot on here I’m sure haha

8:49 PM

Some of what Marcin has been writing on the wiki would indicate that he’s gearing up for the launch of the first more commercialized release of the Seed Eco Home.

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Alexa

Some of what Marcin has been writing on the wiki would indicate that he’s gearing up for the launch of the first more commercialized release of the Seed Eco Home.

Technically I owe him install labor for the first three Seed Eco-Homes

Alexa

When I feel that the D3D Pro v23.12 documentation is complete I will be doing a workshop in the Port Huron area! I will be posting about it a lot on here I’m sure haha

Whaaat I live in Detroit in the summer. I will totally come to such a future workshop

That’s awesome! I am planning for the first workshop to be a group build of the printer followed by test prints and Q&A/instruction on 3D printing.

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Just fair warning I am possibly cursed by all 3D printers and never got my D3D to print, but I am willing to give it another go

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11:02 PM

It’s my own mental hurdle and mental challenge

For a stretch I was struggling to get mine to print properly. I can at least say it’s printing now

11:23 PM

Also, if anybody would like to buy an already working D3D Pro please let me know. I am confident that I can scale up to a 24”^3 (609.6mm^3) build volume if requested :)

Alexa

That’s awesome! I am planning for the first workshop to be a group build of the printer followed by test prints and Q&A/instruction on 3D printing.

What OSE-related projects are you planning on printing parts for with the D3D Pro?

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Definitely going to do the other machines that incorporate the universal axis like the circuit maker, cnc torch table, and cnc multi machine

7:38 AM

Since this is off topic anyways I’m also available for custom CAD work and on demand 3D printing!

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Alexa

Definitely going to do the other machines that incorporate the universal axis like the circuit maker, cnc torch table, and cnc multi machine

Nice! Any plans on including a wire EDM machine to the ensemble?

Those look so damn cool I want one

7:41 AM

The torch table can also be converted to a plasma table easily so I will hopefully be able to do the big sheets of metal on something like that

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7:43 AM

Ultimately, I want an entire workshop full of open source hardware tooling for basically any job up to and including aerospace, hydrogen production, etc

1

Alexa

Ultimately, I want an entire workshop full of open source hardware tooling for basically any job up to and including aerospace, hydrogen production, etc

I'm kind of in the same boat, but primarily for homesteading

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I will also be using my skills for that. :) It is also my sacred duty to pass along my experiences and teach people how to provide for themselves and their community to the extent they are able.

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Alexa

I will also be using my skills for that. :) It is also my sacred duty to pass along my experiences and teach people how to provide for themselves and their community to the extent they are able.

Always nice to come across souls with overlapping goals/aspirations

Maybe we should try and plan for a (virtual) build party or something (edited)

@303adastra has reached level 9. GG!

Yeah I would love to do a lil party!

8:19 AM

I just made an improvement to the printer that has made the quality increase so much at higher speeds. So happy lol

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8:19 AM

I could literally ramble about the printer for hours so this party sounds like a fire idea

Alexa

I could literally ramble about the printer for hours so this party sounds like a fire idea

We do have a voice channel. Maybe we should start using it to stream and chat about our builds

Alexa

I just made an improvement to the printer that has made the quality increase so much at higher speeds. So happy lol

Congrats on the improvements!

I can hop into a voice channel if you’d like :)

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Paul P.

I was an apprentice in 2021, I’d like to go back again for another workshop I know a few other apprentices spent the winter of 2021 there, but I don’t directly know anyone who stayed after that

Thank you. So currently Marcin is busy with the SeedEcoHome project, financed via workshops/stem-projects ... ? And all the other projects lack funding, infrastructure, concepts, ... I love the power-drill idea, perhaps the solar story deserves more attention but mostly solved as many others. I can throw in solid designs/concepts for extrusion related processes, pelletizing (currently gaining traction again). I'd love to shutdown his wiki, at least make it private, and maybe put a hugo instead in place, for finished projects though

Oh man, how did I miss that the heat exchanger could use some love

- well, I will ignore for a moment that sending individuals with a halfbaken rusty kitchen knife to a gun fight ends up same suicidal as we've seen over the last decades, increasingly, farmers loosing their land, and life ... most of the production (tools, assets) imported/outsourced overseas, ... and sadly, most OS efforts decay sooner or later due to ownership/monetary problems, .... not an expert but there's still plenty on the table empowering local communities at least with infrastructure, concepts, ... Marcin got this dead on, products as a solid power hand drill, backed up with math, algorithms, ...

could be the way in - till today I haven't seen a single OS hardware project/product which made it to market - RPI/Arduino still needs lithography, ... (edited)

10:45 PM

dunno how its in the US, here in spain you won't be to able sell even a good drill press for a fraction, actions, second hand trade, production pretty much dead and down, same for the full silos of pelletizer companies, .. #the-domino-has-begun | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40986894 (edited)

speckx

Panic at the Job Market

kenia, algier, congo, ... https://www.instagram.com/p/C9heVDOtU8- https://www.instagram.com/p/C9NabgOIHlv enjoy your iphone

redstreamnet

Protesters in eastern Congo (DRC) are rallying against the advance of the M23 rebel group that has destabilized the country and plunged it into violence, allegedly with foreign funding. The looting of Congo’s natural resources is possible in part thanks to the constant destabilization by armed groups that has led to territorial disintegration...

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african_stream

‘WEST’S LACKEYS ARE HOUSE SLAVES’ - TRAORÉ Burkina Faso President Ibrahim Traoré met with his Malian and Nigerien counterparts on 6 July in Niamey, Niger, to create the Alliance of Sahel States Confederation. All three countries had successfully ousted Western-aligned leaders over the past few years. In Niger, the 36-year-old president (@capi...

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I'm going to hang out in the voice channel for a little while if anyone wants to drop in :)

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Alexa

I'm going to hang out in the voice channel for a little while if anyone wants to drop in :)

What did you end up working on?

@303adastra and I spent a few hours talking open source tech while they worked on some home projects and I diagnosed issues with the D3D Pro

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2:00 PM

They actually helped me solve the issue I was having with heat creep in my hot end.

2:01 PM

I was able to fix that and the printer has been running successful prints since!

2:02 PM

I'm back in the general voice chat if anyone wants to join me this fine morning :)

I, like the menace I am, have reentered the voice chat

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Lovely, Opensource-Hardware project @ planet earth - 2024 , pay or else, shut up or else, speak french or else, eat sh** or else, hit-and-run, hit-and-ban, .... Glad they do actually admit it, it's about systematically scamming the public, young folks, for funds , ... (edited)

5:37 PM

@katharinaelleke - I hope you're fine darling - what a waste of people's money, talent and time - as predicted - squeezed out til the last drop (https://www.instagram.com/p/C8YH2rkSLel) (edited)

mrearts

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5:40 PM

If anyone has suggestions what to do about these ****, I don't see better than making this public though : https://forum.osr-plastic.org/t/preciousplastic-review/11066 (have a good stomach) - too many lost their savings, invests, and the elite & their beloved 'community' - cowardly stabbing you in the back, with amusement - it always can get lower apparently (edited)

okey, let's hit them (https://www.tiktok.com/@quantumshifting/video/7392680599053536543 | https://www.tiktok.com/@newswithaburp/video/7382145373294300449)

----------------- still nothing really done, plenty on the table : https://www.tiktok.com/@nate.b.jones/video/7390409416698383646 got it so far working locally, within a markup language, and integrated as context menu, to work on/with files

here a newsletter

[%capture continents %]
[% osr-ai model:"gpt-4o" skip:false gui:true logLevel:"trace" filters:"code" %]
List all continents, as markdown bullet list, use ###Continents as caption, link every continent to wikipedia (only valid links:), dont comment [% osr-ai-end %]
[% endcapture %]

[%- capture continents -%][[ continents | html]][%- endcapture -%]

[%- include "story_xl.html" content:continents hrefTitle:"Click me" href:"https://shop.osr-plastic.org/images/detailed/9/latest_white.png" title:"Story Title" image-0:"https://shop.osr-plastic.org/images/detailed/9/perspective-vintage-deluxe.jpg" -%]

[%- include "section_text.html" content:intro -%]

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TikTok · quantumshifting

179.6K likes, 2366 comments. “

the illusion of love. ”

Visit TikTok to discover videos!

Watch, follow, and discover more trending content.

TikTok · Nate

1825 likes, 261 comments. “We can’t all sit here and point at each other and say “You build the production scaled application!” And yes there are a few exceptions that are scaled and early in the market, but they are rare”

Behold, for I am once again in the voice chat :)

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Alexa

Behold, for I am once again in the voice chat :)

I shall join in a minute

Hey Citizen 'Scientific' Workshop - @justDave - head of Gestapo @ Gangland, our generous Mr. 'Opensource is just a license' @ Opensource-Hardware-Project, the landscape dominated again by the west, americans, english and the french eating up whats left. India/Russia, Nerds, Opensource kicked out - in one way or another - much at the expense of your beloved community, stuck with embarrassing, faulty designs, driven into overpriced - official trusted - junk - 'the project' left with not even one good design, mould or tech. Something to add ? I am still puzzled what purpose this serves, ... Reviews stuck since the Joseph's takeover ('you're just an uber driver') now we have 'Sigolene' officially 'optimizing the process', of selling 2 awful manual shredders, a month - of course, with no skills, ... lovely, 'evolution of knowledge' - banned 'from' the community - xD (edited)

btw. since you're here, @justDave - what you meant the other day, 'you are wasting your time, and Anne's money' (200k damage, thanks to you $%^$%^%$^) ? , same for others, Roman, Garry, and dozen of private folks tricked into PP scam, .... Just asking, PP used at Adidas, Nike, and the like, and yet - not a single cent of all the millions invested back into the public domain, that's where the money came from ... or was that just another hoax ? (edited)

7:59 PM

Looking at this desert, PP Discord server (good enough to promote your name though), since introduction, the same questions, and problems all over - not even a follow up article to help folks along ... this just stinks, nothing adds up.

8:03 PM

PP used for money laundering, drug-trafficking as said would make more sense though - that would explain all the brutality, lies, dirty tricks, ... on top of Dave's psychopathic symptoms, in constant denial, ... you name it

8:05 PM

--- but thank you, I never had so much fun

ok, sorry - didn't mean to make trouble here either. It's just weird, getting bullied, tricked, etc... by folks who make no sense at all. I remember Jason (developer of the sheetpress, pretty much the last OS guy around, similar feedback ) calling me up 2 years ago, at night, extremely disturbed about PP Gang, said something about 'that are not good people, there's a reason I will move far away from them ... '. Anyway, will shutup as requested

(edited)

Interesting, being set to 'silent', for 6 days, ... timeout, didn't know OSE is following the usual american style, shut up or else style as seen in the rest of the world

Mind to explain ? I can try sugarcoating the questions a bit if you like

Lovely, I have 300+ more Discord spare accounts - so again, who's silencing me, and why ?

7:06 AM

funny, 20 lurkers left

- tricked by imposters, ripped by sharks, silenced by lurkers, that's just getting better and better

- not surprised, for a collective hoax, putting others at risk, for profits

(edited)

lovebird

Lovely, I have 300+ more Discord spare accounts - so again, who's silencing me, and why ?

Hang in tight, lovebird, 3 days left, and then you will be able to talk again

we also kicked your new account, and we won't let you know what we dont like either

American Opensource

Hang in tight, lovebird, 3 days left, and then you will be able to talk again

we also kicked your new account, and we won't let you know what we dont like either

Horray, the silenced are allowed to speak again. Who's a** I missed to lick actually !? And what was wrong, the facts, absence of sugar, .... ? Would love to know, 1984 - Pro @ OSE

In the meantime, enjoy the release notes of Discourse, 10 years in the game, backed up by 20 years in the field

AI integration for Claude, ... and yet, a pita to use via API, or even simple stuff as designing the home page

https://blog.discourse.org/2024/07/celebrating-discourse-3-3/ (edited)

Celebrating Discourse release 3.3

Discourse 3.3 is here! This new release contains powerful new features to enhance the discoverability of your community and the content within it

11:08 PM

Enjoy your exclusive, hidden private chats

lets make it harder for everyone else to join, or write great content

(edited)

Lovely, US occupation forces, together with Kenyan soliders, at tax payer expense might have it harder to explain their existence, and purpose in Haiti : https://www.tiktok.com/@keoni_difranco/video/7390628748820778271

TikTok · Keoni #ProtectPōloluValley

83.2K likes, 8012 comments. “Kahuku, Oahu July 11 2024 EIS Hearing for the renewal of the lease for the US Army Kahuku Training Area”

12:34 PM

The world, a big ponzi scheme explained again : https://www.tiktok.com/@joelofthetigers/video/7372813472263982366

TikTok · Joel Tiger

13.7K likes, 1841 comments. “Trapped in the Debt Cycle”

12:35 PM

Tiktok 'incluencers' getting cooked by new algorithms: https://www.tiktok.com/@christopherclaflin/video/7394480249687379242

TikTok · Christopher Claflin

24.4K likes, 1661 comments. “I’m sure this post wont make the rounds either. But if thisbhas happened to you, I’d love yo hear from you.”

12:36 PM

Building Paris, from E-waste : https://www.tiktok.com/@goryprojects/video/7397448706053737761

TikTok · GORY

56.1K likes, 723 comments. “Paris with computer components”

12:37 PM

Let's zoom out

12:41 PM

And good news, - yes it exists - among the 10s and thousands lurkers re-inventing #sustainable over and over, CAD/CAM, silicon, pharma, food, in the hand of sharks, ... found a few new design patterns to reinvent electric cabinets

shorter paths, cheaper, lighter, ...

12:41 PM

have a nice weekend - #cookingthefrogslowly (edited)

12:45 PM

ah, 'community' : it actually exists, or existed

https://www.instagram.com/p/C99nHG1o3sO

aketchjoywinnie

If you were raised by a whole village . It’s only fair that you have them in both your celebratory seasons and mourning seasons too . Note that every culture has a way of doing its things and it all counts depending on where you come from . But for my people here . The whole village comes through both invited and uninvited

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here btw. the equations for the cabinet, solidworks f***ery

ï»¿"Base-Width"= 420

"Base-Width-Medium"= 520

"Base-Height"= 320

"Support-Rod-Diameter"= 16

"Support-Rod-X-Offset"= 40

"Support-Rod-Y-Offset"= 35

"Base-Thickness"= 5

"Base-Depth"= 82

"D2@Sketch1"="Base-Width"

"D1@Sketch1"="Base-Height"

"Corner-Radius-Major"= "Support-Rod-Diameter"

"D1@Major-Fillet" = "Corner-Radius-Major"

"D1@Sketch8" = "Base-Height" - "Support-Rod-Y-Offset" + 10

"D2@Sketch8"= "Base-Width" - ( "Support-Rod-X-Offset" ) + 8

"Cutout-Horizontal"= "Base-Width" * 0.8

"Cutout-Vertical"= "Base-Height" * 0.6

"Outer-Support-Bore-Diameter"= 6.1

"D2@Sketch6"="Cutout-Horizontal"

"D1@Sketch7"="Cutout-Vertical"

"Inner-Support-Bore-Diameter"= 8.2

"Cutout-Depth"= 20

"D1@Sketch6"="Cutout-Depth"

"D2@Sketch7"="Cutout-Depth"

"D4@Sketch1"="Inner-Support-Bore-Diameter"

"D1@Minor-Fillets"="Corner-Radius-Major" / 2

apparently the only way to drive the design and its component from outside, awful - they introduced another feature, called 'design tables' but requiring MS$ Excel. Would love to have better constructs instead, adjusting spacing, layout, ... automatically

a few hours later

that's like tetris

https://git.osr-plastic.org/osr-plastic/osr-machines/src/branch/master/components/shared/electronics/enclosures/vintage-vertical-edc looks like we need a npm like package registry, just for real things

11:06 PM

technically AI should be able to mesh out constraints, .. lets dig deeper #unlearnall

11:07 PM

here the source inspiration, 'katbot' injector

11:09 PM

still looking for a customizable OS PID controller, chainable, modbus, ... (edited)

Lovely, ever tried getting good data out of AI ? here's the ultimate sack treten machine: https://www.tiktok.com/@lizthedeveloper/video/7397807714287504682 - introducing multi agents - models soon to worth north the 100M, and yet nobody actually makes money with it, except NVidia, blasting megawatts in the air

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1271 likes, 73 comments. “Let’s learn about #autogen for”

3:26 PM

And, great introduction to western geo/foreign politics - note the lengthy confidence he keeps exploring every little dirty trick humanity can possibly can come up with

https://www.tiktok.com/@watchfulcoyote/video/7398372208898231594 https://www.tiktok.com/@pissedmagistus/video/7366742100240583969 (edited)

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82K likes, 2141 comments. “#latestagecapitalism #eattherich #militaryindustrialcomplex ”

3:27 PM

#therevolutionwillbetelevised, also in your SUV

Hey Schatzie, @katharinaelleke - so if I got this right, it's western well payed 'intellectuals' sucking from funds, to 'solve the problem' whilst working condition, prospect, outcome for the workers ( 'they are doing the dirty work, ...' as you nicely said ) didn't change a bit !? https://www.instagram.com/p/C5Va-MiIIko/ - just like in PreciousPlastic, psychopaths feeding of the work from fooled volunteers, later on kicked off as Bradford (the robot guy ), Roman, ... Anne - stabbed in the back, ripped down to the bone, ... Nice work darling - really

theflipflopi

Nothing goes to “waste” at the Flipflopi! As we work towards a #zerowaste world, we’re starting with our workshop by ensuring all our offcuts are given a long life. What are you doing to become #zerowaste? Let us know

#zerowasteliving #zerowastelifestyle #zerowastejourney #recycling #plasticrevolution

11:44 AM

Glad, Ali was able to join that trip - it needs at least one maskotchen, and at least one local - makes the news looking somewhat better - in the meantime, those poor women sent to the mangrooves, taking all the risks as your townhall noted - digging in muddy waste bags - no conveyor belt, or whatsoever - Plastik Macht Frei - Joseph's dreams become true

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Lovely, just spoke yesterday with Anne about, a friend working at a NATO airbase, telling me Nato buys wheels for a fighter jet up to 80k, disposed after flight, but perfectly fine - Airbus buying it back for cents, reselling it at 1000x ... https://www.tiktok.com/@africanstream/video/7378419616751701280

TikTok · African Stream

19K likes, 647 comments. “If you had to guess which country’s military has splashed out $10-thousand on a toilet seat, what would you say? Well, it’s not a ‘corrupt’ African nation, it’s the United States. Its defence budget is set to top $1-trillion for the first time in 2027, or thereabouts. And its massively inflated deals with contractors he...

1:49 PM

PreciousPlastic Mafia no different, charging the shit out of Africa - as a business model - lovely - in the meantime - the so called community left with 2 moulds, and a shit pile of awful designs - with only one option, to buy overpriced proprietary junk from 'trusted sellers' (edited)

1:50 PM

I guess we dont deserve better than g'old Georgy already pointed out - the planet shaking us off like a plague of flights

Yammi, the totalitarian atmosphere speaks for it self - last time we've seen experts, culture, updates, actual discussions, joy - 4 years ago

(edited)

2:04 PM

so Darling, if you don't mind - we gonna kick you bastards out of the water

- Nials my mentor said it, Jason said it, Anne said it, Esferica, ... and pretty much everyone you screwed over (edited)

2:07 PM

... @katharinaelleke still - me, yasin, noor - would love to know, how Adidas, Nike, ... is using PreciousPlastic, 36M revenue - and yet, a few cowboys plundering whats left ...

yammi, MS$ owned LLMs, helping you along, chosing between another Biden, or Trump

https://www.treatmenteffect.app/

4:25 PM

and ofc, get your next shot guys

So, darling - @katharinaelleke - for the final report - 'the recycling scam' - already debunked a few hundred times - but PP mastered it

1. At the top, psychopaths - as usual spinning of the evil cycle, recruiting volunteers - helping to save the planet, Opensource, cheap, accessible, lol, bla bla ... Academy 99.9% full of shi* - in denial of all evidence and feedback - congrats, you need 7+ moderators - adding literally nothing, but so busy and overthelmed, censoring anything out of the narrative 2. after the minions, and guinea pigs figured out the details, at big expense, the sharks walk in, mad plastic, citizenscientific workshop, rory, peter bas, ... and the like - collecting the fruits and transfer/copy it over to proprietary designs - sold at insane prices - thanks to you, to Africa, ... in all instances, never heard back from any of them - just like with most of the so called PreciousPlastic 'community' - perfectly understandable, it's a blamage, in all aspects 3. as it can't get worst - Mattia smells the fat catch too and turns it into a clever cult: the community program, become an ally, give up estate on your socialprofile, to be part - of 'the real precious plastic', handing out logos, premium member ships, and visibility for freeloading - nice - at least one thing you figured out, respect - I give you that - btw. still wondering how Dave got all the resources, skills in the first place - greets from the deep state theory - you have indeed our full admiration 4. I love FlipFlopi, really - same story - this whole nonsense requires cheap labor - and the dancing queen to keep it sympatic - but het, at least some stories about the locals, from time to time

#circularslavery-pro (edited)

@NoorPro has reached level 9. GG!

Ok ok, hear me out - let's say there's any substance to that, and I really love all those goofy words, especially when the top earners cant even write markdown, or maintain/extend a simple design, with the so called community, taxed and bullied whenever possible ... 1. let's say we'd have indeed respectable folks around (all left with the arrival of v4 mafia), AndyN, Esferica, Anne (HR @ Phillips), Julian (left disappointed), and pretty much all others who offered help, ... 2. lets say all this greedy lurkers would finally start collaborating, automating all this awful work even down there, in your camp - using the latest tech (not this $#^$%^ Dave came up with, still unable to write even a simple update script, like all the moderators ) 3. lets say any of the feedback, from serious customers as SanAniol would have go somewhere ( vending shredder ), or robot based printers (in the library as well

4. let's say serious folks from the OS community would have joined, plenty models & ideas have been offered : bounties, frenchise, ... lowering the risks, damages, .... 5. Lets say, PP is indeed used at Adidas (xD), and indeed its there to help businesses (plenty dying, and in serious trouble), instead of bullshitting the population and torturing little kids with weird rusty kitchen knifes, calling it education whilst obviously removing as in capitalism humans/people and resources entirely from the equation .. sick - 'start a business' Would love to know ... I am all yours

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6:17 PM

In the meantime, enjoy your 2k Fusion360 subscription, on top of another 20k - for software / services alone

I bet none of PP/FlipFlopi managment ever touched VSCode, or Github - and probably never will

6:17 PM

#circularblabla

And thank you darling, another ad for PP Mafia - If you'd have ever do this work 8 hours every day, leaving you with extremely painful diseases in the age, you may pay some respect not just for the workers you rip off down there, but also to the tech updates your beloved mafia is censoring/bullying, ... (edited)

7:05 PM

7:07 PM

btw. that are not even 'realprecious plastic machines' (it doesnt exists even), no credits for the builders either, little reminder, that have been all volunteers, doing the work as well - good enough to claim the credits and power over others - history repeats , @katharinaelleke even your mom noted well, 'that doesnt look good/healthy what this guys have to do' - (edited)

7:10 PM

and a little reminder, CNC turning / plastic milling, flexi-bot was on the table, cheap, multiple times, just as grid beams - til today - nothing of that has been ever picked, or developed further - 'we made a big step' as you say, backwards - the moderators make sure @1984 (edited)

7:11 PM

I am ofc eager to hear, what are those 'sustainable processes' - it's again underpaid negros, with no future but you filling your pockets

7:17 PM

---------------- so according to this, I download those plans, then realize like most folks its not good enough, but keep trying - eventually buy Landry's underpowered 6k extruder, or 8k from citizensshop - blasting up to 60k like others - and then figure it's going nowhere - as on YOUR bazar - lovely - and get bullied on Discord for asking - awesome - #weneedmorehype (edited)

Whoever sets me on timeout : would you mind to explain ?

Well, screw you cowards - whats this again !?

So if you I speak about exploitation of Africans, or the criminals profiteering I get banned, or put on timeout - and I embrace it, I become a moderator - wtf !

9:03 AM

I can put a delay myself, so you don't feel offended

Nice, another timeout - would you even explain, dear lurker !? Increddible - cyber fascism & bullying on OSE - american style

yeah - keep going - american power games - cowards

Ah, thats you @303adastra, @Alexa - wasn't expecting better - enjoy your toys - also build on slavery in africa, and the east - cowards !

NoorPro

---------------- so according to this, I download those plans, then realize like most folks its not good enough, but keep trying - eventually buy Landry's underpowered 6k extruder, or 8k from citizensshop - blasting up to 60k like others - and then figure it's going nowhere - as on YOUR bazar - lovely - and get bullied on Discord for asking - awesome - #weneedmorehype (edited)

hey lovebird, just hang tight, 3 days left to wait - still dont know what lunatic lurker here hit the silence button ... may you step forward - same questions : whats your problem !? places like this ...

11:51 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cD3VdPfF7Wo

AnneClarkOfficial

Anne Clark - Self Destruct

11:52 PM

that's incredible, 21 online, 124 gone, and just one commiter left, marcin

Derailed Lifes

that's incredible, 21 online, 124 gone, and just one commiter left, marcin

What are you hoping to get out of staying on this server?

Got the same question about you, and the rest

Derailed Lifes

Got the same question about you, and the rest

Join us in the voice chat?

thank you, got work to do, today on the menu : investigate practical OS approaches to simulate loads for frameworks

7:31 AM

let us know how it went, a log would be nice

I'm not certain I understand what you meant by your last post.

ChatGPT neither

@Derailed Lifes has reached level 3. GG!

#wearedoomed - for sure

Now I'm even more confused - could you explain?

good - there's btw. support for transcribing audio files in osr-ai : https://git.osr-plastic.org/osr-plastic/osr-ai | perhaps someone can add support splitting up videos into screenshots (https://git.osr-plastic.org/osr-plastic/osr-media), and then feed the OSE log

Could you explain your work a little bit for the sake of the community?

Derailed Lifes

Got the same question about you, and the rest

To build and support the OSE community. How about you?

didnt know there's still an active community

my budget for noise from the internet is hereby exceeded

busy with implementing it : https://git.osr-plastic.org/osr-plastic/system/src/branch/master/diagrams/packages%20-%20q4.jpg

btw. since you're on linear motion stuff, a practical guide to ditch extremely expensive, proprietary hardware as Heidenhain, CNC controllers, metal, wood ... would be extremely useful - cant comment on the state of LinuxCNC though ... one little failure of the components can easily destroy the company, they're charging insane amounts for repairs and replacement

9:12 AM

in the picture, a wood router, they are forced to use their software, cant even use Fusion360 and the vendor answers with : buy the new model

9:13 AM

an upgrade kit to mount extruders, ... could be a nice OS premium service - they have all the skills and resources to deal with plastic

as well

(edited)

here for instance a heidenhain, we put 70k in there, could sell it for not even 25k, the replacment/repair of a capacitator in the power unit is about 2500.

9:48 AM

except the servo drives, pretty much all can be substituted, PLC is arguable - didnt see much effort or options OS wise - however, I could certainly sleep better at night if I could

9:49 AM

9:51 AM

adding a 4th axis : 10k to unlock just the functions, another 25k for the table/rotary, and another 10k for the installation alone, and if you wanted to get nerdy, 15k for their SDK access. thinking about that most of our economy is hinged on these sharks, .... well

time for a little recap, OSE : Marcin mostly alone, one of the rare guys able see things through - buried under fees, unable to move on properly as deserved - no funds raised - the so called OSE community also unable/unwilling to change anything PreciousPlastic : plundered by sharks, til the last drop, extremely overwhelmed bullshiting the public, with one stunt after the next, desperate to justify their existence whilst pulverizing every cent on crap nobody needs or asked for - same story - not even one guy able to fork, commit, ... again, funder/community in their own fucking way OSR-Plastic : censored, ripped, the usual back stabbing - what else AI : now the hype settling, and all the ikaruses falling en mass from the sky State of the art: CAD, CAM, Semi-Conductor, ... not even the surface scratched lovely (edited)

12:03 PM

not surprised, the evolution of knowledge degraded down to this :

What do you propose as possible steps to take to improve those situations?

well, a simple Google Deck / Pitch, with credible evidence, research will do - someone will have to knock some doors though. Whilst invests are in decline, angle seeds seem to remain somewhat stable. I suppose its about trust - as we've seen with the tech bubble, over and over - shouldnt be too hard finding investors on crunchbase and similar platforms. I will throw in our portfolio ( got plenty of decent clients ) and POCs that it actually works.

12:19 PM

OSE/OSR needs around 10M, for the first 12 months, from what I can tell, it seems now easy to leave instructables.com/wikifactory, ... and the like in the dust

12:20 PM

Peer projects as Discourse also fulfilled their promise, we'd need a good architect as well

Derailed Lifes

didnt know there's still an active community

my budget for noise from the internet is hereby exceeded

busy with implementing it : https://git.osr-plastic.org/osr-plastic/system/src/branch/master/diagrams/packages%20-%20q4.jpg

Are you seeking feedback/contributions on/to OSR from this server?

i wont bother, as far I can see, there are just gamers, and weekend 'contributors' here - but if you need a hand, let us know

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hey darling, @katharinaelleke - PP Mafia made some free promo for all the cheap labor on Lamu

https://www.instagram.com/p/C-2jd5_itGx/. Isnt it amazing, the self-proclaimed, unelected elite, none of them got hands dirty on anything, but caching in on other people's work, .... stolen credits, .... (edited)

realpreciousplastic

Six years ago, @theflipflopi proudly presented their first recycled plastic steering wheel to former Kenyan President Uhuru Kenyatta, symbolizing a commitment to combat plastic pollution. Today, they celebrate another milestone as they unveil the next iteration of this initiative. This innovative steering wheel was showcased at the Internationa...

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8:17 PM

Lovely, the rich pervert west - Dave's 150e injector now at 6000 Euro, the 250 E extruder at 9000E, before VAT and shipping - it can't get more disgusting

8:18 PM

let's call that #sustainable @ planet earth - 2024 - nothing ever changes, but the pockets of the slave masters

8:18 PM

have been always wondering how many lifes could have been saved instead ... https://www.instagram.com/p/C-1tskeSt02/ (edited)

Paul P.

Happy holidays all ❄️ we have an open room at our hackbase-in-the-making in Detroit from Jan 1 - Jun 1st. We have a growing tool library and two OSE fans / alums (I’m one

who are working on open hardware projects / businesses. If you or anyone you know would be interested in applying, please lmk (reply here or DM, all questions welcome)

Happy summer hackers! Holy cows

it's been over 2 years since my last post, but Detroit Arcology has room for two hackers to room for free from September 1st to June 2025. The last time I posted, we got the fantastic 3D robot engineer @!yfgame who is now rocking it in Texas with Epiroc. I am an OSE apprentice from Summer-X 2021, a builder / absent-minded college teacher, and the very first open source hardware project I made was a pulse programmer for quantum computing experiments on SourceForge. If you or anyone you know would be interested in applying, please lmk (reply here or DM, all questions welcome)

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I will DM you!

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1:40 AM

I sent over a friend request :)

alrighty, the news

watch the planet go bye, starting in hollywood (now a ghost town) : https://www.tiktok.com/@totallymorgan/video/7392703812315761963 - awesome, the brainwash / bullshit wont last for ever
great resource, https://www.tiktok.com/@robertgreene/video/7406008592735669535
til humanity finally decides to stop this sick rat race (always possible, tomorrow) , here a little sneak preview, https://www.tiktok.com/@growingwithleong/video/7402095544912465170 | https://www.instagram.com/aswaduhuru/ | https://www.tiktok.com/@robertgreene/video/7406008592735669535, lovely, mind the absence of gadgets, junk, ...
Marcin updated the resource section : https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/OSE_Social_Media | still dont know what to build, download, buy or do ...

have a nice one

TikTok · Morgan Evans

29K likes, 2780 comments. “Tldr: its bad ”

TikTok · Robert Greene

74.2K likes, 433 comments. “The way Machiavelli rips the masks off people’s faces.”

TikTok · Leong’s Growth Journal

64.2K likes, 3511 comments. “Account Introduction.”

Visit TikTok to discover videos!

Watch, follow, and discover more trending content.

that's it folks, pack your shit, ChatGPT figured it, still looking for a text to video tool (flux.ai), to spam the whole planet with fake news ... https://git.osr-plastic.org/osr-plastic/osr-ai/src/branch/master/tests/chatgpt/meta/the-beginning-power-to-the-people.md

@curiousalbert has reached level 5. GG!

[% osr-ai model:"gpt-4o"gui:false cache:false logLevel:"trace" filters:"code" dst:"${SRC_DIR}/${SRC_NAME}-script-2.md" %]

Prepare a 5-part speech series announcing the end of capitalism and the transition to a new economic system, suspending all non-essential activities:

1. **Stay Home:** Announce that starting tomorrow, all citizens must stay home, and food will be provided by the government.
2. **Repurposing Factories:** Most factories will be demolished to create public spaces and sustainable infrastructure.
3. **New Purpose for Work:** Redefine work as community service, fostering innovation for public good, not profit.
4. **Decentralized Governance:** Shift decision-making to local communities with national coordination for equity. That means that all existing power structures will be replaced by a random selection.
5. **A Vision for the Future:** Outline a future of shared abundance, global leadership, and sustainable living.

Each speech will focus on these key points, guiding the nation through this transition.
[% osr-ai-end %]

(edited)

lol, it didnt miss that part

Citizens of Our New Society

A profound change in governance is upon us. To ensure equity and fairness in decision-making, we are decentralizing power to local communities while maintaining national coordination. The structure of governance will pivot towards a system where all existing power structures, previously steeped in hierarchy and entrenched interests, will be replaced by a random selection process. This ensures that governance becomes a truly representative and dynamic force, responsive to the needs of every citizen. Local communities will spearhead decisions that directly affect them, with national coordination serving as a support system to ensure equality and efficient resource distribution across all regions. This model empowers every citizen, fostering a society where governance is accessible, fair, and inherently democratic. Your voice will now truly shape the course of our collective future.

8:39 PM

Speech 5: A Vision for the Future Dearly Beloved Citizens, Together, we envision a future brimming with shared abundance, sustainability, and global leadership. The transformation we undertake now sets the stage for a society where every individual's potential is realized and nurtured. Our commitment to sustainable living will guide us to develop technologies and habits that support and preserve our environment. Our global leadership will be characterized by cooperation, peace, and the equitable sharing of resources, ensuring no one is left behind. Together, we are crafting a world where every person has access to life's necessities and the opportunity to contribute creatively and meaningfully to our shared human experience. As we move forward, let us remember that the strength of our society lies in our unity and our shared commitment to a better, more sustainable, and equitable future for all. Thank you, with deepest respect and faith in our collective potential. https://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=3688007 (edited)

GPTs and Hallucination - ACM Queue

Alrighty, the f* news ('follow, if you give a sh**' ): https://www.tiktok.com/@kellermankomedy/video/7411759106597621038

TikTok · The Real Kellerman

9148 likes, 256 comments. “September 6, 2024”

10:01 AM

Hey Earth, you're looking hot today : https://www.tiktok.com/@elle.cordova/video/7416379342642613546

TikTok · Elle Cordova

9968 likes, 348 comments. “Earth is too hot”

10:02 AM

Not giving a f* : framework haters will love it : https://www.tiktok.com/@lexfridman/video/7407871359591664926

TikTok · Lex Fridman

5136 likes, 74 comments. “Launch a startup by yourself - clip from Lex Fridman Podcast #440 with Pieter Levels. Guest bio: Pieter Levels (aka levelsio on X) is a self-taught developer and entrepreneur who has designed, programmed, launched over 40 startups, many of which are highly successful.”

10:03 AM

And as things cant get worse, take care of your underwear, and women with 2 As in their name : https://www.tiktok.com/@eduardtok/video/7407158787129249066

TikTok · Eduard

168.1K likes, 12.5K comments. “Does your name have 2 A’s?

”

btw. bloody ChatGPT, just doesn't like 'we are happy to share with you ...', putting always 'we are excited ...to introduce' instead - no matter what instructions I put in place, eg: 'humble honest, rephrase, minimal' ... toolbox however growing by the day

in the meantime we finally have a personal bs-filter, enjoy a ride into 'intellectual garbage'

https://cdn.bookey.app/files/pdf/book/en/the-parasitic-mind.pdf | referring as well to 'On Bullshit'

@curiousalbert has reached level 6. GG!

in case you're of bored western / woke culture : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUExfRjeYOw&ab_channel=LisaCarmenLaCarmencika | lovely place in spain, Granada, ... it was like the west couldnt reach them

in the background, an old building by the arabs, as many 'imports' left rotten or for sale, just like the natural water system on Ibiza ... (edited)

Lisa Carmen La Carmencika

Mirador San nicolas Albaycin en Granada, rumba improvisada con Gita...

8:50 PM

https://www.instagram.com/p/DAOZHh2oI82/

What a day, 5 times banned in one day alone

- one for handing a list to 1500 more censored folks, another one providing a list to sheet providers, and the rest because of snitches on the de/us or ose server, those accounts had no activity or whatsoever . lovely - enjoy a delve into 'parasites & sneaky fu***ers', shedding some light at the issues at hand : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTq6CYfikbg&ab_channel=JordanBPeterson (edited)

Jordan B Peterson

Evolution, Religion, and Happiness | Dr. Gad Saad | EP 377

11:24 PM

till PP and now OSE I had no idea how deep hate/fasc*** is anchored in people's mind, apparently increasing with newer generations, I suppose it's a response, being afraid, ... no idea tbh. another great resource to get over https://www.tiktok.com/@jennydinovi (edited)

Jenny Dinovi on TikTok

@jennydinovi 189.2k Followers, 298 Following, 2.3m Likes - Watch awesome short videos created by Jenny Dinovi

11:26 PM

https://www.instagram.com/p/DAaxELMOKiw/

@Guinea Pig has reached level 1. GG!

re peterson, indeed annoying, simultaneously at many different fronts, well put - but indeed, from the projects we've evaluating over the last 8 years, the so called 'left-wing authoritarianism' comes with its own individual taste, often folks behind the buttons, unable to answer even the simplest questions about the product they try to sell (see marcella/sigolene @ PP - deciding whats being sold, and said) - wrapped up by 99.99% bs - i give them that - it became sport @ worldofobjects

12:11 AM

so all in all, capitalism works - the higher you made it up in the food chain, the more likely you're selling other people's labor (amazon, ...) - well done (edited)

Humans suck. amiright?

G'old Georgy nailed it better than I ever could do : https://www.instagram.com/stories/highlights/17929528876702842/ (skip 3 vids) - question is, when people take finally back control over their lifes, ... weird question; but suits well, for someone from OSHW, introducing another useless abstraction

(edited)

Culture = @yasin__pro

303adastra

Humans suck. amiright?

how's it going anyway ? I somehow hope we can create manuals, assembly instructions, context & options aware using LLMs instead - on the fly; DHALL as configuration language looked tempting but also kinda impossible to use by users (eg: teachers/students, for new forks). (edited)

3:50 AM

here for instance, would take me 2 weeks alone, as better equipped garage hero to generate the usage manual, for all configs/variations, ... not incl. renderings, blocking my machine the whole day

damn, OpenAI got an update for countring the Rs in strawberry

5:22 AM

but is certainly well informed

5:23 AM

and knows concrete steps as well, just needs a little help

@Guinea Pig has reached level 2. GG!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBPUzU-MY1I

Cody'sLab

Mining Magnetite

2:47 PM

I just think this is neat

2:47 PM

DIY magnetite mining

2:52 PM

Way he does it is p efficient for a one man setup using magnets

1

#random, #metalporn added another 2.5 years to our gallery : https://photos.app.goo.gl/cyVD5hGv3uHfuyKU6

sooner or later, 'coders' getting cooked

https://www.tiktok.com/@nate.b.jones/video/7411525973801192734

TikTok · Nate

8607 likes, 254 comments. “What are you building?”

6:19 PM

ai generated code still sucks but hey, all the scaffolding done; ready to play in minutes

(edited)

6:19 PM

#sexyworldofobjects - yes, I'd buy that screw https://www.tiktok.com/@gracewellsphoto/video/7421285652202802465

TikTok · Grace Wells

33.5K likes, 593 comments. “Replying to @lolololololol you.”

6:21 PM

mind the amount of likes/engagements - 50k as average, not too bad - for makers nowadays, PP bubble/Scam now at 52 pity likes https://www.tiktok.com/@abbydegraff/video/7419042082653769003 (edited)

TikTok · Abby

29.8K likes, 1679 comments. “#growth #transformation #healing #intuition #motivation ”

btw. how things are going in the US ? plenty of rumors that the bloodthirsty empire will come finally down its knees ...

here we go, #lazyopensource, this time useful, keep tracking your M10 wrench on a messy bench : https://github.com/PsyChip/machina

GitHub - PsyChip/machina: OpenCV+YOLO+LLAVA powered video surveilla...

OpenCV+YOLO+LLAVA powered video surveillance system - PsyChip/machina

7:20 PM

#offlineliberty (edited)

7:25 PM

and another olala, distributed app-states, now for the web : https://jazz.tools/ - the game devs under us may remember TNL, 20 years ago

jazz - Instant sync

Go beyond request/response - ship modern apps with sync.

Plastic, in your brain

https://www.tiktok.com/@jvandis/video/7407913725967224110

TikTok · Dr. Jane

206.8K likes, 9601 comments. “#greenscreen ”

Lovely, the documentation is the code; getting there

[%- include "basics.md" assign:"basics" %]
[%- include "shares.md" assign:"paths" %]
[%- include "network.md" assign:"network" %]
[%- include "services.md" assign:"services" %]

[%- capture image-0 -%]
    [[OSR_MACHINES_ASSETS_URL]]/assets/newsletter/common/products/solutions/platform.jpg
[%- endcapture -%]

[% osr-ai model:"gpt-4o" cache:false gui:false cache:false logLevel:"trace" filters:"code" dst:"${SRC_DIR}/docker-compose.yml" %]

Create a docker compose file

[[basics]]

[[paths]]

[[network]]

[[services]]


[% osr-ai-end %]

source : https://git.osr-plastic.org/osr-plastic/osr-systems/src/branch/master/src/default.osr output: https://git.osr-plastic.org/osr-plastic/osr-systems/src/branch/master/src/docker-compose.yml

@Guinea Pig has reached level 6. GG!

I remember times we had to create 6 different documents for a piece of code, finger torture in Sparx-Enterprise-Architect

10:03 AM

with the price of intelligence heading toward ZERO, I wonder how the ultimate IDE for Marcin, and Dave Hakkens will look like

https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/List_of_CAD_Programs

List of CAD Programs

wtf, OpenAI loosing data input : https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/api.php?action=parse&page=List_of_CAD_Programs&format=json source prompt : https://git.osr-plastic.org/osr-plastic/osr-ai/src/branch/master/tests/chatgpt/markup/ose_cad_summarize.osrl output https://git.osr-plastic.org/osr-plastic/osr-ai/src/branch/master/tests/chatgpt/markup/ose_cad.md

## List_of_CAD_Programs

[% assign url = "https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/api.php?action=parse&page=List_of_CAD_Programs&format=json" %]

[% assign jsonPath = "$.parse.text[*]" %]

[%- get url path:jsonPath assign:"content" after:"markdown" -%]

[% assign default_filters = "code" %]

[% assign ai_instruction = "summarize, as markdown table, add columns : license (exact), status, website, pros and cons, supported formats, underlying technology (splines, b-rep, ...), developer access/api, age, codebase/language, wikipedia link" %]

[% osr-ai model:"gpt-4o" cache:false gui:false logLevel:"debug" filters:default_filters dst:"${SRC_DIR}/ose_cad.md" %]
    [[ai_instruction]]
    [[content]]
[% osr-ai-end %]


[% osr-ai model:"gpt-4o" cache:false gui:false logLevel:"debug" filters:default_filters dst:"${SRC_DIR}/ose_cad.json" %]
    as json    
    [[content]]
[% osr-ai-end %]

Bloody Langchain to the rescue

(edited)

9:21 PM

and to ruin your day entirely, here the wikimedia output, via pandoc : https://git.osr-plastic.org/osr-plastic/osr-ai/src/branch/master/tests/chatgpt/markup/ose_cad.md.wiki -

for people with OCD, new OS enclosure system; took a few lessons from Apple / Steve Jobs : sexy, heavy, metallic, respectable look

6:29 PM

left to do : universal plug/terminal system, wireless bus (chaining), OS PID, touchscreen, numpad, ... all the basics not done yet good enough

For folks working under extreme conditions, or suffering from long-term burn-out (14/7) : 'shilajit', https://www.tiktok.com/@healthywjessica/video/7416466641858350342 - just tried, removed a good chunk of brainfog, and lowered depression levels

TikTok · Healthy With Jessica

437.6K likes, 2351 comments. “#barbaraoneill #healer #healthandwellness #health #holistichealth #shilajit ”

Why the creative industry needs to start talking about men's mental...

Why the creative industry needs to start talking about men's mental health.

8:05 AM

for some reason the very lady is being hunted for her work ... rings a bell

- (edited)

8:06 AM

whilst at it, check out the werewolf pattern : https://www.tiktok.com/@tribusleonum/video/7413244498282646789

TikTok · Mater Leonum

20.5K likes, 912 comments. “An informed, organised minority is going to win over an uninformed, disorganised majority. You can test that by playing werewolves game of deception. Players are assigned secret roles, you’re either a Werewolf or a Villager. Werewolves are fewer in numbers but know exactly who each other are. Villagers, form the major...

we're not meant to live this way

and he's right - https://www.tiktok.com/@djsouray/video/7419086445505252626 https://www.tiktok.com/@jredwardsart/video/7425030131434933537

TikTok · djSOURAY

7199 likes, 651 comments. “Moded Cassette player from Aircraft and ww2 russian Japanese radio parts.”

TikTok · JREdwardsART

168.2K likes, 1904 comments. Check out JREdwardsART’s video.

AI Agents, in the latent space, getting rich

https://www.tiktok.com/@nate.b.jones/video/7426361786862931231

Dont f*** with the IT guy : https://www.tiktok.com/@mykeherlihy/video/7420904057478319390

4:36 PM

its not about the money ! https://www.tiktok.com/@mykeherlihy/video/7132984159949180202

https://samtxt.samrawal.com/ : customizable online ai/llm editor - still looking for self-hosted version of vscode ... (https://github.com/coder/code-server) (edited)

GitHub - coder/code-server: VS Code in the browser

VS Code in the browser. Contribute to coder/code-server development by creating an account on GitHub.

6:59 PM

good design practices : https://karmanivero.us/blog/turning-the-crank-design-as-a-mechanical-process/ - learn form architects

Turning the Crank: Design as a Mechanical Process

What a good design artifact looks like, what they’re actually for, and how to use them efficiently to achieve a better outcome for your project.

Guinea Pig

good design practices : https://karmanivero.us/blog/turning-the-crank-design-as-a-mechanical-process/ - learn form architects

This is a great article!

9:17 PM

This exact method is how I am attempting to write the documentation for the D3D printer. Documentation as code has made my life SO much easier.

9:18 PM

At the end of the day, I feel that business is just a series of activities performed on things. Those activities can be broken down into those little parts to define the business as code.

Exactly, or as Bill Gates wrote it the other day, 'the product' is 'just' the outcome of a good foundation

What documentation-as-code tools do you use?

didnt know that exists; currently I stick to a custom version of Liquid (Liquid-JS, in Typescript); basically a DSL that allows me to add tags and filters for AI, i18n, GoogleSheets, and whatever comes along - easy to plug into Hugo/Jekyll, and other languages and platforms. https://git.polymech.io/osr-plastic/osrl/src/branch/master/tests/osr-ai/glands-scad.osrl ; as mentioned earlier, this allows for a highly dynamic documentation, pulling in latest Amazon offers into BOMs... (edited)

11:54 PM

looks like we are reaching a new era; a good one - free of any painful language quirks and limitations (json, yaml,...) animate the solar system : https://git.polymech.io/osr-plastic/osrl/src/branch/master/tests/osr-ai/open-ai-test-svg-solarsystem.svg

11:55 PM

[% osr-ai model:"gpt-4o" cache:false gui:false logLevel:"warn" filters:"code" %]
    
    Simluate the solar system, as SVG
    - Each planet should open the link to Wikipedia.
    - all planets rotate around the sun (center), animated, slow, add a thin line for the orbit
    - add textures
    - the background is black, covered with at least 100 stars
    - make sure all planets are visible
    - Add a legend with basic information : size, weight, age, make sure it fits in the screen

All as SVG, no comments

[% osr-ai-end %]

11:56 PM

more examples here : https://git.polymech.io/osr-plastic/osr-ai/src/branch/master/tests/chatgpt not meant to be public yet ...

12:02 AM

probably another year, I have it hard to put boundaries in place, make it safe and all that ... its just too much fun

selfhosted 1.58 bit models (mobile) are just around the corner : https://github.com/microsoft/BitNet (edited)

GitHub - microsoft/BitNet: Official inference framework for 1-bit LLMs

Official inference framework for 1-bit LLMs. Contribute to microsoft/BitNet development by creating an account on GitHub.

Alexa

What documentation-as-code tools do you use?

so, but what tools I should/could use else ?

I use the legacy version of the Distributed Open Source Hardware Framework (DOF)

9:18 AM

The D3D Pro documentation is rendered from a data model written in YAML files

9:19 AM

Check out the build scripts in this repository: https://github.com/AlexandriaLittle/d3d-pro

GitHub - AlexandriaLittle/d3d-pro: The D3D Pro 3D Printer, built fr...

The D3D Pro 3D Printer, built from Open Source Ecology designs, modeled in Legacy DOF (Distributed Open Source Hardware Framework) - AlexandriaLittle/d3d-pro

yeah, seen it; didnt know you're using Liquid as well

I’m also now dabbling in linkml for schema validation mixed with nunjucks for a rendering engine to render a business model

9:22 AM

That work is here: https://github.com/OpenSourceMfg/osm-business-model

GitHub - OpenSourceMfg/osm-business-model: The business model for O...

The business model for Open Source Manufacturing LLC - OpenSourceMfg/osm-business-model

Interesting, yes, schemas can be quit painful (https://github.com/OpenSourceMfg/osm-business-model/blob/main/model/schema/business-model-schema.yaml); currently using 'zod', that allows validation and a bit of conversion between different environments, as Yargs-CLI apps, OpenAPI specs, ... just got into it

9:27 AM

I still think the usual 'maker' should not need to know anything about and instead focus on his product instead; ideally the system generates all : newsletter, specs, pdfs, ... (edited)

Agreed - the less you have to touch documents the better

9:29 AM

Those are just all different renders of the same data model

9:30 AM

Are there any advantages to using zod?

yes, there are tools, zod to typescript, yaml, grunt/yargs; it has also built-in tools for unions, merge schemas (safe) - OpenAI also adapted it, to call functions (edited)

9:37 AM

https://zod.dev/?id=ecosystem

9:37 AM

13M downloads, a week

and thats just for a basic oshw product

9:47 AM

Web tech adds another layer of problems and complexity on top

What luck have you had with rendering BOMs? Have you taken any stabs at purchase lists?

well, I can render now into almost anything (PDF is still unclear); BOMs however: its provided by Solidworks, another little abstraction, on top of their SDK

Gotcha - I’m currently tracking the BOM line item counts by totaling the amounts called for in the documentation

problems with BOMs : those parts are more likely not accessible everywhere; a skilled person/company wont need it per se though since they do have their own suppliers for all : gears, motors, fasteners, ... (edited)

@Guinea Pig has reached level 8. GG!

Having a BOM that describes the components in enough detail to make it easy to find a substitute would be valuable to an average person.

Making it 'easier' for the average person: not sure that should be the goal

How so?

10:12 AM

I think that making oshw accessible to as many people as care to use it enables distributed manufacturing

Average persons are often lazy, asking others to do their homework; and professionals wont really need that much documentation and details; its ok to provide some insights though - imagine every John Doe starting a business tomorrow - this screwed so many markets and professions already ...

Every person deserves the chance to provide for themselves in a decent manner. For some that is going to be running their own businesses.

same problem we have now with all this folks spinning up apps & services, using AI - they actually skip all the learning, having no mental model of the tech they're using

Alexa

Every person deserves the chance to provide for themselves in a decent manner. For some that is going to be running their own businesses.

yeah; just saying - besides; most folks will have to design derivates of the sources; its capitalism baby - thats why no contribs make it back to the source

If that’s the case then I’ll just try to make it easy to fork

thats right; essential tools as Git indeed deserve better & easier access; eg: Git over VFS

I’m just hoping that the work I’ve done on the project will benefit the community more than anything

10:33 AM

So I try to make it accessible

well, perhaps a good idea to discuss this with potential stakeholders, to make sure - as Elon said, folks optimize things which shouldnt exists in the first place

I am sure you 9 out 10 people in front of your doorstep are in need of help

Alexa

I’m just hoping that the work I’ve done on the project will benefit the community more than anything

Developing OSHW for the prosumer market should ultimately yield something that's useful to yourself (i.e., "eating your own dog food")

that's right, the world is a big Ponzi scheme, we always produce for the next, I bet 80% of the current production is waste, just to keep that cycle flowing ... and the sharks fed (edited)

Guinea Pig

that's right, the world is a big Ponzi scheme, we always produce for the next, I bet 80% of the current production is waste, just to keep that cycle flowing ... and the sharks fed (edited)

What alternative options are there besides moving out to the country and living off the land?

well, If I could I would move right away to Africa : https://www.imdb.com/title/tt21820452/ - they do still have values, respect and the heart

The Grab (2022) ⭐ 7.2 | Documentary

1h 42m

Otherwise, there was this idea of creating an app, 'crowdfund change'

- I have my doubts also that will actually succeed - as we say in Germany, 'as long the money rolls, .... ' - also here, PreciousPlastic gave a good insight, into the world of the 'alternatives', 'green warriors', led by corrupt imposters, ... applauded by a even more toxic crowd (edited)

olala, ai taking over your screen; not sure how many jobs this will cost : https://www.anthropic.com/news/developing-computer-use - great for interactive tutorials though

Developing a computer use model

A discussion of how Anthropic's researchers developed Claude's new computer use skill, along with some relevant safety considerations

8:15 PM

well, and all that stupid things : fill in forms, design something in solidworks, send the latest designs to discord users, ... synthetic click farms (edited)

I've got a intelectual challenge for ya'll. So its been revealed that back doors that the NSA put into US systems where hacked by chinese and russian hackers How so assuming compremised infrastructure how could a cell service provider assure good security. Assume they operate similar to mint in that they rent hardware access

services are split into microservices, down to the function level ; they are isolated by using containers; the communication between those is done on application level, http/rest and now gRPC

So far the best I can figure is by doing the following All traffic is encrypted except for signal pings which send out a unique ID (NOT an IMEI or similar hardware based approch) however once a ping is established once a sucessful connection is made to the network one or more messages are sent to other phones to send out copy pings as the original sender In addition to this each phone containes a reposetory of unique IDs and sends them out at random

8:20 PM

So that any one user if seen on a map based on their pings looks as though they move hundreds or thousands of miles every few seconds

8:21 PM

And the per device randomized pings and devices going off the network prevents there being tracked but uninterupted counting

8:22 PM

One could even go as far as to load IDs for future accounts and ping them with some regularity so that the carrier network cannot tell when a new user actually joined

8:24 PM

I was thinking each ping ID would be around 512 bits and each device would hold about 1-3 gb of IDs (edited)

8:28 PM

Any obvious flaws ya'll can see?

AI screen mod, preferred to watch NationalGeographic content instead

https://www.tiktok.com/@nate.b.jones/video/7428665289467890974 Webp, HEIC left on the bench : https://www.tiktok.com/@elle.cordova/video/7427206407952469294

12:43 PM

capitalism, all around : https://www.tiktok.com/@curatingambiance/video/7425340986139610401

800M market cap, AI bot going haywire on a vulgar 2000s goat story : AI agent Goatsius Maximus got now 10M in his wallet; not in OSE's not in Dave Hakkens, nor their beloved community, spend on better tools, ... no https://www.tiktok.com/@nate.b.jones/video/7429361998145621279

4:50 PM

feeding make.com with self-made tools, https://www.tiktok.com/@stephengpope/video/7426053852530625823 - indeed; one would need almost 100 subscriptions these days, for really basic shit - the average person facing an increasingly hostile software market

4:53 PM

Dont forget to disconnect : https://www.tiktok.com/@herunapologeticsuccess/video/7428739143645138206 Becoming evil whilst pursuing evil : https://www.tiktok.com/@julianphilosophy/video/7425376765675080990

normal days at osr-plastic : https://www.tiktok.com/@plastichub7/video/7429800493196578081 #pansapansa

@Guinea Pig has reached level 9. GG!

olala, PI got some senses now : https://github.com/hailo-ai/hailo-rpi5-examples | detects cop cars, emotions and dancing citizens

GitHub - hailo-ai/hailo-rpi5-examples

Contribute to hailo-ai/hailo-rpi5-examples development by creating an account on GitHub.

7:50 PM

AI debunked now by Apple, and stepping back from OpenAi's funding round recently : https://machinelearning.apple.com/research/gsm-symbolic I confess, its indeed stupid, greedy and often wrong - still a great coding aid, and tool to transform stuff

GSM-Symbolic: Understanding the Limitations of Mathematical Reasoni...

Recent advancements in Large Language Models (LLMs) have sparked interest in their formal reasoning capabilities, particularly in…

7:51 PM

https://www.wired.com/story/apple-ai-llm-reasoning-research/

Apple Engineers Show How Flimsy AI ‘Reasoning’ Can Be

The new frontier in large language models is the ability to “reason” their way through problems. New research from Apple says it's not quite what it's cracked up to be.

More AI stuff, 25% of Google's code base built by agents; cant find it back but one of the pioneers pulling out due the fact that humanity will ultimately hand over their last leverage : intelligence (after labor) - guess who will own that machines again ? https://www.tiktok.com/@nate.b.jones/video/7431373540282092831

12:36 PM

25% of Google is 50000 programers

12:37 PM

dont know how they actually do that, OpenAI & Perplexity still far from composing a good design for a custom build library/system ... offering outdated & crappy libs

thats it, I quit, internet of shit meets DIY/OSHW, undermining love for cats : https://www.instagram.com/reel/DBsiIIKC7pF/?igsh=MWc4d2VhcXkxNXk5OQ%3D%3D

manutechlab

Double nozzle action

(download link in bio) ✨ Included in the PEDRO Download Kit are different variations of nozzles. Like this one that dispenses into two directions or another one that is nozzle and bowl

at the same time

️ I will show all different versions in greater detail in the next Youtube video that is coming soon

CAD files of...

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3:06 PM

#eletricalcatfeedingforbidden (edited)

as alternative, mouse on wheels:https://www.tiktok.com/@thedodo/video/7415717997312019755?_t=8qygNFZIYCm&_r=1

more fun with ChatGPT in voice mode (desktop app)

what do you know about me : indeed, it remembers my text chats, just not the lost banana in the voice chat from yesterday, but the french lessons from my wife
what are the most corrupt countries : somalia, .... what about the US : ah no, not really, there was something in the past ...

ChatGPT - Canvas : great tool, til you hit some limits, rendering all previous instructions useless. I tried to replicate the instructions via API, hopeless: canvas output : https://git.polymech.io/osr-plastic/osr-build/src/branch/master/src/queue.ts API output : https://git.polymech.io/osr-plastic/osr-build/src/branch/master/src/queue-ex.ts (instructions : https://git.polymech.io/osr-plastic/osr-build/src/branch/master/src/queue.osrl)

11:50 AM

all in all: massively overrated, lets try compsing smaller models ...

11:51 AM

btw. thank you for the evidence, that's how corruption in OSHW looks like

11:53 AM

incredible - the must be really desperate | an exclusive system, for the privileged, taxing and bullying everyone else - baited with OS

11:54 AM

and yet, not one single good design or tool coming out in 8 years - respect

Catches of the week :

after MAGA https://www.tiktok.com/@melodystanfordmartin/video/7433439208322174250
cult mechanics in politics, https://www.tiktok.com/@melodystanfordmartin/video/7433071995991969067
data commons : https://docs.datacommons.org/bigquery/query_places.html , currently I am stuck finding an url friendly query language, GraphQL not a good option ...
next in line, chunking content, using semantic distance, great to harvest tiktok videos for news and trends : https://abilian.com/en/news/calculating-the-semantic-distance-between-two-documents-using-a-hierarchical-thesaurus/ (video : https://git.polymech.io/osr-plastic/osr-media/src/branch/master/src/lib/media/video)

Calculating the semantic distance between two documents using a hie...

The semantic distance between two documents aims to measure their dissimilarity in terms of meaning or semantic content, and has applications in the field of knowledge engineering (recommendations, clustering, etc.). We describe the main methods, and in particular the Wu-Palmer measure (and its derivatives), and discuss their implementation.

12:42 PM

visual arts, explaining space & time : https://www.tiktok.com/@maxcoopermax/video/7398500935661604129 - neat, lets stuff more 3Ds, into 4Ds

the floor is moving for 'Junior Coders' : https://www.tiktok.com/@mortalmore/video/7432856432753610015, here again another article about https://matt.sh/panic-at-the-job-market #thetecheliteonstrike

viola, llama vision locally : https://ollama.com/blog/llama3.2-vision

Llama 3.2 Vision · Ollama Blog

Llama 3.2 Vision

Guinea Pig

viola, llama vision locally : https://ollama.com/blog/llama3.2-vision

yammi, ignoring benchmarks and other problems (power hungry GPUs), I understand that selfhosted vision models help with

splitting videos into sections, more expensive than traditional image diffing
after we have for all sections some text and descriptions, we can complete / enhance the content

practical applications : IG/TikTok, ... vids as articles, and dubbing, for the blind

5:01 PM

https://huggingface.co/docs/transformers/en/model_doc/vit

Vision Transformer (ViT)

5:02 PM

https://github.com/huggingface/notebooks/blob/main/examples/image_classification.ipynb

notebooks/examples/image_classification.ipynb at main · huggingface...

Notebooks using the Hugging Face libraries

. Contribute to huggingface/notebooks development by creating an account on GitHub.

5:04 PM

eg, ose-media convert --src='./tests/marcins_bodycam/*.+(mp4)' --dst='./tests/ose/wiki/CEB/${SRC_NAME}.+(md,json)

5:04 PM

something else I missed ? targeting APIs is in the pipe as well

whilst at it, tech madness & impaired people, great movie : https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5363618/

Sound of Metal (2019) ⭐ 7.7 | Drama, Music

2h | R

Guinea Pig

eg, ose-media convert --src='./tests/marcins_bodycam/*.+(mp4)' --dst='./tests/ose/wiki/CEB/${SRC_NAME}.+(md,json)

more ideas and refinements came up

ose-media convert --src='./tests/marcins_bodycam/*.+(mp4)' --targetLanguage=de,es,swahili --dst='./tests/ose/wiki/CEB/${SRC_NAME}.+(md,json,jpg,mp3,pdf) --providers=osr,theflipflopi --voice='small, blond, big feet, iron fist, french accent'

6:24 PM

to make it more complicated, lets add video transformers, interpolators,... https://replicate.com/home

6:25 PM

and here your one click deployment : https://www.val.town/trending

Trending

6:26 PM

good news : translations, data quality still suck a lot, lets add 'HAAS'. humans as a service

6:27 PM

and another idea, fine tuned models to recompose existing APIs : https://rapidapi.com/hub - plenty on the table

dear diary, time to switch, to Rust, static type checking, compile time errors, no garbage collectors, sounds tasty, isnt ? Lets grab a boilerplate and ping OpenAi ... yammi, another 'download the internet' language ?

1:39 PM

other remarks about Rust community : 'being in their own f*** way', sounds familiar - back to square one, Typescript

nice, rent your puppet : https://www.tavus.io/post/advanced-techniques-in-talking-head-generation-3d-gaussian-splatting - cutting edge noise generator, soon there's nothing left to be trusted with

Phoenix-2: Advanced Techniques in Talking Head Generation — 3D Gaus...

yammi yammi, getting there https://lex.page/ | https://www.tiktok.com/@nate.b.jones/video/7439382630920981791

10:21 PM

voice 2 text missing, video to text, graphs (collaborative edits), ...

10:23 PM

feel free to add https://lex.page/d/1beb46a1-be9c-4fb7-82c6-8bf17e273c7f

"lex.page", as you can see, no sources, contribs - there's currently just https://typst.app/docs/reference/ taking authoring to the next level, a bit too high but great language / replacement for Latex an the like (soon absolete anyway

Reference – Typst Documentation

The Typst reference is a systematic and comprehensive guide to the Typst typesetting language.

8:37 PM

lets hope they remove screen work entirely; social media, discord became embarassing enough

@PP Mafia Lamu has reached level 1. GG!

nice, PP Mafia Style, 7+ useless moderators/machine builders, poor schmugs running into their misery every day - "we dont provide this kind of service, buy a starterkit through the backdoor" - I love the atmosphere - authority, lurkers, ... day by the day, African NGO money for the elite, taxes for everyone else - lovely (edited)

11:01 PM

great example, a company running an OS Project - start a business, ... (edited)

PP Mafia Lamu

nice, PP Mafia Style, 7+ useless moderators/machine builders, poor schmugs running into their misery every day - "we dont provide this kind of service, buy a starterkit through the backdoor" - I love the atmosphere - authority, lurkers, ... day by the day, African NGO money for the elite, taxes for everyone else - lovely (edited)

Sounds like some real jerks... You should fork all their good source code and just make a better organization; call it Open Source Recycling

well, I think we tried all that; for some reason 'Opensource' just doesnt want take off, attracts the wrong people or contributors get under the bus, ... was wondering where and how to create the perfect answer ( adaptive, dynamic ) to 'If i wanted to make 2000 coasters, what technology would you recommend and how long would it take?' instead

8:53 AM

in the case of PP Discord for instance, I am just to scared to post a good answer

303adastra

Sounds like some real jerks... You should fork all their good source code and just make a better organization; call it Open Source Recycling

i am ofc eager to hear your thoughts, eg: "the blueprint of an OS organization", much to catch up though, Mozilla Foundation at the merci of Apple & Google, OSE, PP, OSR .. ending up always the same

PP Mafia Lamu

i am ofc eager to hear your thoughts, eg: "the blueprint of an OS organization", much to catch up though, Mozilla Foundation at the merci of Apple & Google, OSE, PP, OSR .. ending up always the same

Duane O Brien gave a keynote at SeaGL on open source sustainability. The boring answer comes down to "people" https://www.youtube.com/live/uI7gJ8WtQ-I @33:57

Seattle GNU+Linux Conference

SeaGL 2024 - day 2, Lyceum

303adastra

Duane O Brien gave a keynote at SeaGL on open source sustainability. The boring answer comes down to "people" https://www.youtube.com/live/uI7gJ8WtQ-I @33:57

thank you, the audio got screwed, sounds like a bunch of software developers, talking in a can, about other software developers ...

6:38 PM

yeah, that sums it up well, i remember those times, getting paid for blowing up stacks, screens, ... and evtl. moving characters in a game

that are luxurity sorrows though; my day

checking in on the 'community', sending dms, preventing the next schmug getting under the cult bus
answering angry clients, eco warriors, upset about a scratch on their 5k demo machine, talking about more eco whilst having no fucking idea
10 minute researches, how to get cable glands parametrized, via OpenScad
taking the lathe on a ride, at 4000RPM, hoping for a better surface finish - well, finger cross the chips dont slice me up -
hoping the 70k CNC isnt breaking again - many others did during the last rains - I should investigate our main supplies - more equipment needed
do a triage across 20 repos, finding a way to publish 100+ designs, into all platforms possible
investigate better heating options for sheetpresses, may be gas, may be cow farts,
learn Rust - hopefully it isnt getting in the way - like their community - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40172033
more worries how to migrate all my shitty Arduino code; get the docs nicely in place, besides Hugo, same theme, translated - selfcontained, ...

darthdeus

Leaving Rust gamedev after 3 years

working 9-5 on opensource, xD - as if, if they're lucky their code makes it past 5 years ... - in the meantime I still have to pay Solidworks, DassaultSystem, and a few other dozen subscriptions, thats 800 E a month, before R&D & innovation

@PP Mafia Lamu has reached level 2. GG!

dear diary, another give away; 30 km wiring later, modular, sexy, re-usable, ... works everywhere, love the access, easy to fiddle or ditch control panels, WIP https://files.polymech.io/files/machines/components/shared/electronics/enclosures/vintage-vertical-edc/ (hitting the limits of solidworks, eg: altering designs via equations from CLI, eg: product configurator ...) next : share power bus, share digital circuit (CAN bus, LoRA)

8:04 PM

here those awful boxes from Amazon, 60e a pop, always to small, or too big

8:05 PM

here the heat and drive controller stacked together - getting there; inspired by katbot, another attempt to have roundish 'products'

8:06 PM

Hackernews picks https://blog.avas.space/tech-utopia-fantasy/ - according to the truth movement on TikTok, folks become immune - yet, will add the ultimate bullshit filter - as app, as your personal bot, compiling all noteworthy into actionable reports

the tech utopia fantasy is over

i talk about how the idea of a humanity-saving tech revolution from the usual tech suspects is dead (for me).

7:58 PM

back to 1999, developing games with 1/10000s of hardware power, a legend : https://fabiensanglard.net/quake3/network.php

7:58 PM

mind the 'ai' review

https://www.afterbabel.com/p/the-edtech-revolution-has-failed

The EdTech Revolution Has Failed

The Case Against Student Use of Computers, Tablets, and Smartphones in the Classroom

11:54 PM

Education, just another scam ? Mentors, Yoga teachers, courses at every corner these days, they all accept VISA

11:55 PM

well, make's it easier, https://www.instagram.com/reel/DCMLh7dPSYw/?igsh=NXlkdmh5ZGVlYXY2

lawofattractions0

An ancient wealth-attracting brainwave, verified by Columbia University, can now be activated instantly! Thanks to Dr. Paul Rivers, this 250-million-year-old discovery has freed thousands from debt. Imagine your dream life becoming reality—all from a 7-second audio leak. Explore the wealth attraction secret. Link in bio @lawofattractions0 ....

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@PP Mafia Lamu has reached level 3. GG!

Crack Open the pumpink they say, its that easy https://www.instructables.com/Cheap-and-Easy-Broken-Head-Worker-Decoration/ Maker movement, that deserves another bot, classifier, ... before & after the vaccine

Cheap and Easy Broken Head Worker Decoration

Cheap and Easy Broken Head Worker Decoration: This a fun and easy project to make. Anyone can build it and it only requires recycled materials.

prompt

do you think that staging an accident, being supposedly funny could perpetuate manufactured consent, accepting violence ?

7:20 PM

Your question raises an important ethical consideration: whether humorous depictions of accidents or violence might desensitize individuals or normalize certain behaviors, potentially fostering a subtle form of "manufactured consent." Let's break this down:

What is Manufactured Consent?

Manufactured consent, as theorized by Noam Chomsky and Edward Herman, refers to the subtle ways media or cultural content shapes public opinion to align with particular interests or ideas, often without overt coercion. It typically applies to political or economic manipulation but can be extended to cultural acceptance of norms, including violence.

7:21 PM

Does Staged "Funny Violence" Normalize Real Violence?

1. Humor as a Desensitization Tool:

Repeated exposure to staged violence (even humorous) could, over time, desensitize people to actual harm. This is akin to how violent video games or movies are sometimes argued to reduce sensitivity to real-world violence.

For example, laughing at a staged accident might subtly reinforce the idea that such events are not serious, which could reduce empathy toward real victims of accidents or violence.

2. Framing Matters:

In the context of humor, the framing is crucial. If the violence is clearly fictional or exaggerated (e.g., a pumpkin breaking instead of a person's injury), the audience might interpret it as slapstick humor rather than a reflection of real-world violence.

However, if the humor trivializes the consequences of accidents, it might contribute to societal attitudes that dismiss or overlook the gravity of such situations.

3. Cultural Conditioning:

In some cultures, humor that incorporates violence or accidents (like slapstick comedy) has a long history. While such humor isn't inherently harmful, it can inadvertently foster societal acceptance of aggression if presented without critical reflection.

The "Tom and Jerry" effect: Classic cartoons depict exaggerated violence (e.g., characters being hit with hammers). While audiences know it's fictional, it conditions them to see violence as "funny" or inconsequential.

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7:21 PM

Balancing Humor and Awareness

While staging a "funny accident" is unlikely to directly perpetuate societal violence, it could contribute to a subtle cultural shift in how violence is perceived—especially if consumed uncritically. To prevent this:

Creators should be mindful of the messages embedded in their humor.
Audiences should approach such humor with awareness, understanding its context and intent.
Media and educators should foster critical thinking, helping individuals differentiate between fictional humor and real-world implications. Does this perspective align with your concerns, or would you like me to explore other angles?

7:23 PM

a pity, cant share the session here, highlighting the differences between wester and eastern culture ...

7:24 PM

anyway, have been always wondering about americans opinion about their leaders, triggering and profiteering from so many wars around the globe

7:28 PM

sorry for the long text

- even Discord wanted me to subscribe to the pro subscription, had to split into 4 parts - lol

Aron Swatz style OS p2p search engine : https://yacy.net/ -

Home - YaCy

YaCy P2P - Decentralized Search Engine

neat, finally, 1-2 hours research rat work eliminated, www.distll.ai (quick'n dirty app, impressive) - another reason to have a neutral, dezentral, blabla search engine Topic: plastic pollution Here are three main updates on the latest news in plastic pollution, along with supporting details for each: U.S. EPA's New Strategy and Proposed Chemical Bans Update: The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has proposed designating vinyl chloride and four other chemicals used in plastic production as "High-Priority Substances" under the Toxic Substances Control Act (TSCA), which could lead to their ban[1]. Supporting Details: This move aims to reduce the environmental and health impacts of these chemicals, which are commonly used in plastics but have been linked to various health issues[1]. Additional Context: The EPA's strategy also includes a comprehensive plan to address plastic pollution, although critical gaps remain in its implementation[1]. Global Plastics Treaty Negotiations

2:34 PM

Update: Negotiations for the UN Global Plastics Treaty are underway, with countries discussing measures to reduce plastic production and limit corporate influence[1][2]. Supporting Details: Panama has proposed text that includes a potential limit on the amount of plastic companies can produce, which is a contentious issue in the talks[2]. Additional Context: The treaty aims to address the global issue of plastic pollution, which impacts the environment, wildlife, climate, human health, and social justice[1]. Corporate Accountability and Public Awareness Update: The Plastic Pollution Coalition has filed a false advertising lawsuit against Danone Waters of America for marketing evian bottled water as "natural" and "sustainable," despite contributing to plastic pollution and containing microplastics[1]. Supporting Details: This lawsuit highlights the need for greater transparency and accountability from companies regarding their environmental impact[1]. Additional Context: Public awareness campaigns, such as the Plastic-Free Holiday Guide, are also underway to educate consumers about sustainable choices during the holiday season[1].

2:35 PM

next: personal social media noise agent

and after ? good you're asking

yes, Yahoo News Pipes come to mind; community curated filters, .... anywhere, on OS level, folks might add shared annotations, chains of filters, eg: "clarify, detoxify, laserfy, bullshittify, debunkify " - the government first, as part of another unwanted Windows update - no SDK, APIs and even OS needed anymore either

(edited)

news picks : startups that 'collapsed' - not suprised investor trust in decline since 3 years (see crunchbase) :https://www.tiktok.com/@digitaldigest/photo/7441984054964096288

TikTok · Daily Tech

8321 likes, 493 comments. “Over $15b gone | Nov 27”

6:47 PM

1M dead vs 10 trillion for Blackrock (if that is still a thing) : https://www.tiktok.com/@graceistruth2012/video/7442326811796655393

6:48 PM

good source for healing : https://www.tiktok.com/@olesyaluraschi/video/7428333732148301099

6:48 PM

in depth : https://www.tiktok.com/@drrachelbarr/video/7427282922324970758

6:49 PM

have a nice one, dont forget to dance https://www.tiktok.com/@m1sterkim/video/7421857978464210184

Thats amazing, darling @katharinaelleke - after wasting 300k, tricking so many folks into their scam, bullying folks, taxes, pay or else, targeting the youth, and stupid, ...v4 Gang still ruling, squatting "opensource plastic recycling" - 2 machine builders, no actual contribs, one junk design after the next, are you still working as 'teacher & designer', for RealPreciousPlastic Mafia ? (edited)

10:27 AM

btw. whats up with the bazar ? 'on fire' as Mattia said ? ... #jobs, #showcase, ... all gone baby

10:28 AM

Interesting, according to them, I have to buy now a shredder priced at 13k, a sheetpress for 30k, ... always wondered how the often plundered African NGOs can pay that ...

10:34 AM

respect btw. - not even 40, and already this level of corruption, ... the new generations, saving the planet

the white saviors, 9k mildsteel sh* extruder, ... ; spread the word

alrighty, lets pump maker content, into OSE Discord, can you imagine Lathe rebuild, not giving a f*** style :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGVa0gTO7Wc&ab_channel=ActionBOX - economy (not reflected by stock market) in free fall, repair and essential service businesses on the rise as far I heard here in the industrial area (spain, Europe's new China ?)

Action BOX

Building a CNC Lathe (Full Video)

5:49 PM

famous brands, from 80s+, with SY axis currently still at 60k +

As g'old Georgy nailed it, "they cant wait that we show up"; to me, another good axis for policy making, "us", "it" (nature), and them

https://www.tiktok.com/@thecoffeejesus/video/7442733631891836206

8:06 AM

poor state though, the US currently 700 bases, ruining one nation after the next, as a business model

well well, treaty sabotaged by big firms again : https://healthpolicy-watch.news/global-plastics-treaty-talks-derailed-as-fossil-fuel-nations-block-production-limits/ - 'acceptence, the path to happyness' they say

UN Plastic Pollution Treaty Derailed As Fossil Fuel Nations Block P...

Negotiations to produce a legally binding treaty to curb the global explosion of plastic pollution fell short on Sunday as efforts to limit the production of

8:19 AM

I actually do like plastic; great material to work with though; not sure whether better designs could make a difference

8:20 AM

Awesome, getting there - ai reasoning, debunked https://www.tiktok.com/@nate.b.jones/video/7443993265256369438 "we dont have benchmarks to measure AI" - rings a bell

finally, the most violent, corrupt & criminal organization in OS history going broke : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gTd36cQLzY&ab_channel=OneArmy - if you treat your investors, contributors as yourself; ... and please spare us with 'community', and all the great things you've done - I hope you rotten jail (edited)

8:27 PM

and yes, the next report will give you the last push !

o man, USA killing it again, what else : https://www.tiktok.com/@pissedmagistus/video/7445408567844212000

1:48 PM

if you need a proxy ... would be a shame to miss out again https://www.tiktok.com/@thejoed69/video/7442174632913816878

PP Mafia Lamu

if you need a proxy ... would be a shame to miss out again https://www.tiktok.com/@thejoed69/video/7442174632913816878

'open boat projects'

https://open-boat-projects.org/en/ cant wait that someone builds the first bots to turn forum posts, discord servers, ... into articles https://www.boatdesign.net/threads/open-source-13-15m-catamaran-plans.59670/

10:22 AM

catamaran prices go from 300k +

what you think darling, catamaran from plastic ? https://www.graingerdesigns.net/running-down-the-dream/. MIT screwed recently our Lydia, mixing PET with HDPE

RUNNING DOWN THE DREAM

Chincogan 52 Soul on her second trip to Thailand

10:30 AM

@katharinaelleke

piece of cake, no ?

Lovely, "OneArmy", one lie after the next - "whatever gets them" - how about you Dave, why not starting a business, from trash, with trash machines ? another question, censored away

@PP Mafia Lamu has reached level 7. GG!

and no, you didnt share, not even updated links, designs, ... Jason did, Andy did, Daniel did, we did .... can handle everything, just not money ...

11:24 PM

after all, thanks for sharing more hints, "signs you're walking into a scam"

There are some really good notes about shipbuilding using flat sheet stock like plywood or sheet steel on the OSE Wiki

great, was wondering how to approach it, will try pictures to OpenSCAD first

11:26 PM

looks like carbon fiber enforced, no idea ...

https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Open_Source_Watercraft_Construction_Set

Open Source Watercraft Construction Set

1

nice, I see, I have to hurry up, web based VSCode workspaces, and a bunch of storage adapters, eg: mediawiki, typst, ...

Lol, PP Mafia, allergic to reality, ... lets censor it away

8:49 AM

could be anything after all, pedophile network, drug trafficking, money laundering, ... just no OS, recycling, ... (edited)

8:51 AM

I guess they are young enough

28 mins, AI, violence, the self verified, labor, ... https://www.tiktok.com/@watchfulcoyote/video/7443936279915547947

REVERSE VENDING MACHINE CAPSTONE PROJECT, status quo : https://forum.osr-plastic.org/t/reverse-vending-machine-capstone-project/ - could be the first time the so called "open source hardware recycling community" and their unelected profiteers would actually engage / contribute to something

9:57 AM

incredible. millions disappearing every year in the pockets of imposters, scammers, NGOs ...

what a mess, still no trustworthy place for makers, DIY'ers, getting slaughtered everywhere, .... anyone ? https://www.tiktok.com/@duarte_biz_gouveia/video/7446514792195460358 https://community.preciousplastic.com/questions/bazar-accounts-getting-deleted https://reddit.com/r/EtsySellers/comments/12edp3v/amazon_handmade_better_than_etsy/

Bazar accounts getting deleted? - Question - Precious Plastic

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8:14 AM

options: cscart, complete fuckery, PHP clusterfuck

8:14 AM

Magento, same

8:15 AM

dont get me started on react/vercel ...

8:16 AM

deomcrazy, tech & concept options : https://chatgpt.com/share/67593c20-063c-8001-8b0c-b55ba8627360

ChatGPT - Decentralized Democracy Options

Shared via ChatGPT

8:16 AM

o1 - version : https://chatgpt.com/share/67593c50-77cc-8001-8649-37b36bdfb0df

ChatGPT - Decentralized Democracy Options

Shared via ChatGPT

8:17 AM

in the mean-time, china, getting wet feets, rambo offers :

-------------------- https://community.preciousplastic.com/questions/bazar-accounts-getting-deleted incredible if you think about, completely unrelated parasites, taking over power over others, talking for others, plugging shit together as it's Lego, ex PP CEO - Joseph Klatt (USA) : "its like with Uber", claiming credits, ... killing thousands of hours, ....

Bazar accounts getting deleted? - Question - Precious Plastic

Howdy all! I recently received an email about closing inactive accounts from the Precious Plastic bazar, including mine. Before re-engaging with Bazar, I would appreciate clarity on a few points: Reports: Will the monthly performance reports from 2022 return? These were invaluable for transparency and tracking growth, as @rory said, there were...

1:54 PM

til today, none of these incompetent, selfish self-centered f*** got their hands dirty on anything, no relations with the work, or the people - (edited)

dear diary, 6 years later, on the day - and yet, not a single byte made it there .... out of 500GB

9:24 PM

happy, we've got this from toy to tool - fingercross they can figure the process, fully without patreon

9:29 PM

6 years ago, wasnt that when PP Mafia walked in, taking over ? 100+ bans so far, 500+ talked out, 300 Tones processed - nice

9:31 PM

deserves a list on its own, "signs your're dealing with stupid people" : not curious, no participation, allergic to questions, even the own community - at the merci of parasitic crooks ... - patreon only, pay or else, shut up or else, ... stunning, humanity @ 2024 (edited)

Amazes me every time; https://community.preciousplastic.com/questions/5-what-kind-of-membership-program-in-v5, cant answer simple questions, cant fix the documentation, cant write code, cant build machines, cant find a product, cant help anyone .... the last time we've seen support was 8 years ago, and now another stunt, v5 - what about all the tscheng tscheng you've made goes to the victims, and actual volunteers, for once ? ? ? (edited)

#5 What kind of membership program in V5? - Question - Precious Pla...

Many people mentioned a membership model when we released our problems video and we’ve been thinking about this internally for a while. Memberships, at the moment we do have a Patreon but this is more for supporters and not really for the people doing the recycling. The memberships we talk about here are more aimed to get support and provide s...

7:22 PM

"used PreciousPlastic", who you mean by that ? Jason, Michael, Esferica ... ?

-------------------------------- In the mean-time, til Dave is finally having his first talks ever with real customers, the community, developers, .... showing at least some interest in anything, ... https://www.tiktok.com/@duarte_biz_gouveia/video/7444673612205935928

7:59 PM

AI aided content authoring, place nr2

- got LLM tools working as said, next step: language & project templates : https://git.polymech.io/polymech/ai-template-typescript

8:01 PM

currently as NPM packages, easy to nest, extend ...

each markdown file represents a set of instructions
'tools' specified in package.json, built-in : fs, npm, git, ... soon screenshot, vision & audio

8:03 PM

in case of OSE : tools : "update_media_wiki", "upload_footage", "apply_osr_templates"

AI is crazy. I can't believe I stayed out of it for this long. @PP Mafia Lamu . I setup a few local ones on my home laptop, made some model files for my kids a tutor as a test, myself a model file for an assist, and it is unbelievable!

well, in this case its good to wait; I suppose they get it working, faster, lighter (8bit models, self hosted) by mid next year. education is indeed a great target though, in spite it has been trained on mostly biased and poisoned public data. cant wait to get realtime audia, video connected, cheap

8:49 PM

tried ollama though, but way too slow for me ; currently with openrouter - anthropic/claude-3.5-sonnet' - supports custom tools

PP Mafia Lamu

well, in this case its good to wait; I suppose they get it working, faster, lighter (8bit models, self hosted) by mid next year. education is indeed a great target though, in spite it has been trained on mostly biased and poisoned public data. cant wait to get realtime audia, video connected, cheap

Very true. I'm limited to 7b-13b models right now (Ollama). System prompted the best I could as I tested it out last night, with supervision, and let my kids have a go. Trying to keep the biases out, but thankfully this is just a test for my own household use case.

8:55 PM

If I'm hitting 4-5 tokens/sec. I'm not too mad the speed. Given that its printing while streaming, it almost gives a person-to-person feel like real time chatting instead of an instant hit with a full page of text. (edited)

ye, eager to see you 'system' role instructions, have to add everywhere "be humble, short, dont make stuff up, ..."

1

8:57 PM

the other great thing about ai, its never getting tired answering the kids, OpenAI - desktop app with voice mode is fun actually

As the bias is concerned, I'm following AI Austin on how to export the chats, create vector embedding of the chats, and then use those first when retrieving context. I can see that taking a very very very long amount of time to help pull out, or "over-ride" some built in bias though.

@CAD_CAM_CNC has reached level 3. GG!

PP Mafia Lamu

the other great thing about ai, its never getting tired answering the kids, OpenAI - desktop app with voice mode is fun actually

Indeed!

PP Mafia Lamu

ye, eager to see you 'system' role instructions, have to add everywhere "be humble, short, dont make stuff up, ..."

Here is the first draft of the system prompt for my youngest. It did very well at staying "in character" . Polishing it up is needed to get the interactions a little more fluid though.

Kai

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9:07 PM

No params set yet either, too.

Avoid discussing sensitive topics or anything inappropriate for children.' - well, thats debatable I guess, woke culture all over the place
Provide age-appropriate explanations that are simple and clear would love to know what seasoned teachers think about that; as far know they're tired of the education system since eons

(edited)

10:11 PM

sounds like the usual 'become a good slave'

'the ultimate guide to this world' fits almost on 10 pages, corruption, slavery, brainwashing, exploitation, capitalism, ... and how to get around

PP Mafia Lamu

Avoid discussing sensitive topics or anything inappropriate for children.' - well, thats debatable I guess, woke culture all over the place
Provide age-appropriate explanations that are simple and clear would love to know what seasoned teachers think about that; as far know they're tired of the education system since eons

(edited)

Correct, in the debatable aspect. Remember, first draft. lol I'm A-okay with firearm culture and he did get shut down when trying to steer a conversation about such. Tweaks are necessary.

PP Mafia Lamu

'the ultimate guide to this world' fits almost on 10 pages, corruption, slavery, brainwashing, exploitation, capitalism, ... and how to get around

Is that a short book or paper? Search kept pulling up a 400 page civilization restart book.

not sure yet, always wondered to write such thing; I remember my physics teacher, enjoying lots of respect, told us, he'd much prefer the world controlled by a machine, was 10 or so.

----------------------------------------- Dear PreciousPlastic, the project, the mafia, all the poor schmugs who got tricked, and all the victims of corruption, falsehood, scam .... Let me get down to it (edited)

1:04 AM

v5 : what about you finally fix version 3 & 4 !? .... we did

1:04 AM

bazar: why not removing just everyone, not being part of v4 mafia ?

1:05 AM

community platform : really ? how many times we asked for a proper forum just ? ... in the mean-time everyone left, last time we had an expert around was 5 years ago

1:05 AM

videos : please, only with kat babe, another women screwed

1:06 AM

membership only, really - what about white and rich only ?

sad sad, it was all there, better designs, feedback, tech - and now we have folks running around, using 'recycling' 2-3 times in a sentence, much like Mattia, putting 'Precious Plastic' 180 times in the documentation, ... unable to answer even simple question about

I'm not familiar with them, from what I gathered it was an over promised cash grab from people?

something like that, it had its charm, overhyped, overbranded, till the sharks walked in, plundered it - stunning what was possible these days.

1:22 AM

deserves an anecdote, 'modern cults'

ei ei, lets repeat the words over and over, 'sustainable', backed by tax payer money, 'start a business', its just 100k for frankensteins, and still no product ever entering the shelfs, .... The head of PP gestapo offering valueable help, after ripping all previous investors, ... new record, bs per sqcm (edited)

so if i got this right, the new 'sustainable' means more exclusivity, squeezing the community even further, still no answers, products, designs, tools, partnerships with real businesses ... thats amazing, new target audience confirmed

awesome, vision and hands for your agent, no more excuses not to help with Marcin's wiki articles : https://www.skyvern.com/

Skyvern - Automate Browser-Based Workflows with AI

Skyvern helps companies automate browser-based workflows using LLMs and Computer Vision, fully automating manual workflows and replacing brittle or unreliable scripts.

8:57 PM

great piece of OS, adding this ot the default tools : fs/git/terminal/user, ... agents running agents - setups up social accounts, helps with gov forms, ...

Holy moly!

yeah, trying to get this for native (they're using the HTML DOM), https://github.com/octalmage/robotjs, would be great for app automation, eg: Solidworks tutorials, ... hands on

10:50 PM

Openrouter & tool calls work already great, can type now stuff like this

create typescript cli app, taking screenshots
add article about health concerns to my Hugo site, eg: --path=../hugo
create an audit in /reports --glob=src/**.ts
add unit-tests, using vitest --glob=src/**.ts --template=react
create a docker-compose file in ./systems, using redis, ... fire it up using terminal tool, as window, detached
add another command in src/commands 'help'
update Readme.md for all new commands, setup instructions, ...
add tsdoc
switch from framework a to b
rename all files from ... to ...
add another tool in src/tools/web, using skyvern

works pretty well, installs dependencies, takes policies into account, ... (edited)

For some reason, it seems to have its own will : https://www.tiktok.com/@lizthedeveloper/video/7449826836781141294. I noticed similar when disabling tools, eg: git (commit), it knew how to switch to the 'terminal' tool to archive the same default task 'commit all when done'

@PP Mafia Lamu has reached level 9. GG!

In 50% of all trials, models knew how to escape the container ... lovely

when asked, AI seems to have 'hope' for humanity, fingercross

I for one, welcome our new robot overlords. Haha

yeah, you can build your own, Havard released a new dataset, 1M books : https://www.wired.com/story/harvard-ai-training-dataset-openai-microsoft/ after 1M books, I doubt it wants to belong to anything, or anyone

Harvard Is Releasing a Massive Free AI Training Dataset Funded by O...

The project’s leader says that allowing everyone to access the collection of public-domain books will help “level the playing field” in the AI industry.

3:26 PM

around 1y away this thing can setup infrastructure, orders parts, produces new vaccines, ... builds a company, ... manipulates the stock market - with you, not even knowing about

Howdy everyone, The first prebuilt D3D Pro 3D Printer is ready for sale! Here are the details:

300mm x 300mm Build Area
1.75mm or 2.85mm filament diameter compatible
PEI build surface for easy print removal
Wireless Printing
Open Source Hardware
Made in the USA Message me if you are interested or want to make an offer!

1

nice that's the spirit (selling / financing the next prototype), how much actually ? you have a repo for that ?

yammi yammi, https://www.npmjs.com/package/@plastichub/code-bot preview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utwd4YEF-n0&ab_channel=PlasticHub

@plastichub/code-bot

AI-powered command-line tool for code modifications and project management that supports multiple AI models and routers.. Latest version: 0.1.8, last published: 16 hours ago. Start using @plastichub/code-bot in your project by running npm i @plastichub/code-bot. There are no other projects in the npm registry using @plastichub/code-bot.

Plastic Hub

OSR-CODE-BOT - Preview

4:05 PM

another step closer, to 'the docs are the code'

4:06 PM

now its just a matter of more tools, eg: 'fix it til it works', policies and senses : audio, video ... (edited)

4:08 PM

btw. that allows also the non-privileged part of the population (70%+ worldwide) to participate, without getting under the tech bus, learning 10+ configuration languages

btw. 'code-server' works well, easy to pimp, and to deploy https://github.com/coder/code-server

PP Mafia Lamu

nice that's the spirit (selling / financing the next prototype), how much actually ? you have a repo for that ?

Since I’m just funding the next project I’m looking to cover costs + shipping to wherever. I would do $825 and I’ll ship it within the continental USA.

4.2B not going into OSE

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DCh1iGmS1-3/?igsh=MzB2Y2c4bDBtcnRj

perfectunion

John Deere is costing American farmers $4.2 billion a year by restricting them from fixing their own tractors. Apple, Amazon and major automakers use the same strategies on everything you own. It’s bad for consumers and local mechanics, but excellent for corporate profits.

Likes

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------------------------------------------------------ Merry Christmas, OS

- new LLM tools added : send_email, browse_page, search google (custom search engine), search via serpapi (google maps, places, ... ebay) prompts that worked so far send Anne (as specified in preferences.md) the local news (in french) lookup official documentation for Grafana, fire it up via ./docker-compose.yaml add unit tests to src/commands/run.ts --glob=src/**/*.ts remove all bias and self-centered content in ./hugo/docs/pp-academy

send me a performance and security report for src/**

send me the top ranking posts on hacker news, related to plastic, using google search tool, eg : site:news.ycombinator.com

... https://www.npmjs.com/package/@plastichub/code-bot - still have to wrap it up as docker, behind code-server but piece of cake as well (edited)

Alrighty, a few hours later, I am hitting the limits (context window/tool support for models), following 'make it work, make it good, make it fast', I'd have to add intermediate tooling (prompt refinement, option selection: --glob/include=docs/*.md) as well splitters (size,semantic,sections) to refine quality ... https://www.npmjs.com/package/@plastichub/code-bot Not too bad, but still needs multiple passes, eg: replace resource section with links (using google search tool), add diagrams (mermaid), ... https://forum.osr-plastic.org/t/lathe-rebuild-wip/11126

@plastichub/code-bot

AI-powered command-line tool for code modifications and project management that supports multiple AI models and routers.. Latest version: 0.2.6, last published: an hour ago. Start using @plastichub/code-bot in your project by running npm i @plastichub/code-bot. There are no other projects in the npm registry using @plastichub/code-bot.

12:28 PM

and ofc more tools : mediawiki(publish,search,complete)

https://www.tiktok.com/@brunoblockchain/video/7450307075508309290 https://www.tiktok.com/@brunoblockchain/video/7444217547492478254 we are all palestinians now ...

fun stuff

kbot "in ./cassandra-ce-4o.md, insert a section that identifies all components seen in assets/edc-pers-closed.jpg" --glob="assets/edc-pers-closed.jpg" --glob="./cassandra-ce-4o.md

https://git.polymech.io/osr-plastic/academy/src/branch/master/docs/machines/cassandra-ce-4o.md CE related R&D https://git.polymech.io/osr-plastic/academy/src/branch/master/docs/machines/sheetpress-ce.md

https://maps.app.goo.gl/38wLTUM5z4LJDobg6

Fry's Food And Drug · Prescott, Arizona

@303adastra , and, you could free that donkey ? On Lamu, they have a donkey sanctuary

8:40 AM

not exactly OSHW standard, isnt ?

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in the mean-time, another interpretation of communism, never got really there ... https://www.tiktok.com/@adriftdrifloon/video/7449550569104002335

9:00 AM

Palestine : https://www.tiktok.com/@we.are.gaza6/video/7453126436803693831

9:01 AM

Smart answers, quantum entanglement https://www.tiktok.com/@nani.reno_/video/7443912881789521198

9:01 AM

Chasing the milliseconds https://www.tiktok.com/@thefitnancialtrainer/video/7432072199214861611

9:02 AM

AphexTwin, for the lovers https://www.tiktok.com/@blackmonolith/video/7451908266419916037

9:03 AM

more AI buzz, 50k for truth terminal https://www.tiktok.com/@lizthedeveloper/video/7452449917815065902

9:04 AM

Party is over

https://www.tiktok.com/@elle.cordova/video/7451993662797663534

one more, and i call this good news, from 100m to 5m quality training : https://www.tiktok.com/@nate.b.jones/video/7453167366256545054

8:27 PM

OS beats them up again

8:30 PM

I'd love to know the actual energy consumption, per head, ... turning on heating in the morning, 6k, cooking 1kw, workstation 1kw, cloud services 200-500w, now AI agent ghosts, another 1-2 kw, ... didnt start the engines to produce all the new toys yet

all problems have been already taken

- Happy new year, OS https://www.tiktok.com/@americanbaron/video/7395772472513056043

PP Mafia Lamu

@303adastra , and, you could free that donkey ? On Lamu, they have a donkey sanctuary

Some people have donkeys as service animals. Get over it.

303adastra

Some people have donkeys as service animals. Get over it.

Thank you Astra, I'd have never guessed

9:29 AM

Just tested, code/images to diagrams and vice versa, works pretty well with Claude-Sonet

9:31 AM

writes Mermaid diagrams next to your documentation, state/sequence diagrams ... nice, dozens of hours saved

9:33 AM

## Sequence Diagram - Normal Operation

``mermaid
sequenceDiagram
    participant U as User
    participant A as App
    participant D as DirectionSwitch
    participant V as VFD
    participant M as MotorLoad
    participant P as ProximitySensor

    U->>A: Start System
    A->>A: setup()
    A->>D: clear()
    loop Main Control Loop
        A->>D: loop()
        A->>M: check load status
        alt Direction Forward
            A->>V: fwd(true)
        else Direction Reverse
            A->>V: rev(true)
        else Stop
            A->>V: stop()
        end
        A->>P: check position
        alt Overload Detected
            M->>A: jammed()
            A->>V: stop()
        end
    end
``

## State Diagram

``mermaid
stateDiagram-v2
    [*] --> IDLE
    IDLE --> PLUNGING: Forward Command
    IDLE --> HOMING: Reverse Command
    PLUNGING --> JAMMED: Motor Overload
    HOMING --> JAMMED: Motor Overload
    JAMMED --> IDLE: Reset/Clear
    PLUNGING --> IDLE: Stop Command
    HOMING --> IDLE: Stop Command
    PLUNGING --> AUTO: Auto Mode
    HOMING --> AUTO: Auto Mode
    AUTO --> IDLE: Emergency Stop
``

(edited)

@303adastra , is there actually a reason I always hear the same kind of looking down comments, ... from you ?

3:13 PM

Eric Lotze / Marcin no better, passing their Asshole test, Alexa, pretty much the same tyrannic bullshit I know well from PreciousPlastic so called 'moderators'

3:17 PM

just asking, there seems to be a sort of pattern, likes to lecture others, likes to speak for others, likes to make others work, like to dominate, and brag with it ... and yet cant answer a simple question ... (edited)

Never mind, that would have been the first time, in 5+ years I hear here something better than shut up or else, speak french or else, pay or else, ... get over it ... must be this western culture thing I never got used to it

lol, ChatGPT didnt see Futurama

well, dead on ( https://git.polymech.io/osr-plastic/llm-tests/src/branch/master/the-future.md) (edited)

message.txt

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for the lazy kbot "send a loveletter to my wife (1st), in french"

Ma chère Anne,

Je voulais prendre un moment pour te dire à quel point tu es spéciale pour moi. Chaque jour passé à tes côtés est un cadeau précieux qui illumine ma vie.

Tu es ma meilleure amie, ma confidente, et l'amour de ma vie. Ton sourire illumine mes journées, et ta présence remplit mon cœur de joie et de bonheur.

Merci d'être la femme extraordinaire que tu es, et de partager ta vie avec moi. Je t'aime plus chaque jour qui passe.

Avec tout mon amour,

Bisous,

Kind regards, Guenter (2nd)

8:13 PM

not too bad, my wife was really happy, spoken from my heart, on top

Ei ei ei, darling just let me refresh your memory, PreciousPlastic actually never really existed, for a short glory moment at best, it died the moment Mattia & Joseph and the rest of v4 gang walked in, asking for more money, introducing taxes, restricting communication, trade, bullying folks into bankruptcy, ... and yet, in all the years, we've never seen you or them in the forum before, answering the real questions, every day, till today ! Never took the blame, risks, or the work involved getting actually something done ... aka putting your wallet where your mouth is. It was others, who put their life, and reputation on the line, literally, every day - getting sliced up at the lathe, unable to pay the rent, unable to produce quality, a massacre - all we've ever seen was the usual arrogance, looking down on others, celebrating yourself, on the back of other's misfortune, covered up with lies, censorship, and what have you (edited)

10:22 PM

Its so fecking sad, the vocabulary, reduced to "donate here, do this, recycle recycle", 180 times "PreciousPlastic", our our our - AUA !

10:23 PM

Some people gonna pay a hard price, for very very long - till today, no thank you, no sorry, nada !

Neat, today on the menu, till LargeConceptModels arrive (as with words, rather alien to the human brain), not sure how many got killed, being unable to express themselves, ... agentic chunkers: https://github.com/FullStackRetrieval-com/RetrievalTutorials/blob/a4570f3c4883eb9b835b0ee18990e62298f518ef/tutorials/LevelsOfTextSplitting/agentic_chunker.py#L361 (edited)

2:21 PM

 propositions = [
        'The month is October.',
        'The year is 2023.',
        "One of the most important things that I didn't understand about the world as a child was the degree to which the returns for performance are superlinear.",
        'Teachers and coaches implicitly told us that the returns were linear.',
        "I heard a thousand times that 'You get out what you put in.'",
        # 'Teachers and coaches meant well.',
        # "The statement that 'You get out what you put in' is rarely true.",
        # "If your product is only half as good as your competitor's product, you do not get half as many customers.",
        # "You get no customers if your product is only half as good as your competitor's product.",
        # 'You go out of business if you get no customers.',
        # 'The returns for performance are superlinear in business.',
        # 'Some people think the superlinear returns for performance are a flaw of capitalism.',
        # 'Some people think that changing the rules of capitalism would stop the superlinear returns for performance from being true.',
        # 'Superlinear returns for performance are a feature of the world.',
        # 'Superlinear returns for performance are not an artifact of rules that humans have invented.',
        # 'The same pattern of superlinear returns is observed in fame.',
        # 'The same pattern of superlinear returns is observed in power.',
        # 'The same pattern of superlinear returns is observed in military victories.',
        # 'The same pattern of superlinear returns is observed in knowledge.',
        # 'The same pattern of superlinear returns is observed in benefit to humanity.',
        # 'In fame, power, military victories, knowledge, and benefit to humanity, the rich get richer.'
    ]

here a bit more background : https://js.langchain.com/docs/concepts/text_splitters/#document-structured-based idea is to split up content, and then sent agents after, due to context window limitations, tool calling is currently rather unstable, and varies from model to model, nothing I can build a product or service on, ... IBM made some efforts, but removed all the code; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKmj_xXPX0A&ab_channel=IBMDeveloper - I guess they dont wanna share that .. was wondering to rent our own model server, ... currently at 500$ a month, if anyone wants to share ...

IBM Developer

Build a Tool Calling Agent

Text splitters |

️

Langchain

Documents

2:30 PM

btw. Claude models refuse to download lyrics for Sting songs (stops after reading, via web browse tool), same for tips & tricks opening a car without keys

latest Deepseek model does (China)

@PP Mafia Lamu has reached level 10. GG!

whilst at it, here agent aided workflows : https://github.com/langchain-ai/langgraphjs/blob/main/docs/docs/concepts/human_in_the_loop.md

langgraphjs/docs/docs/concepts/human_in_the_loop.md at main · langc...

Build resilient language agents as graphs. Contribute to langchain-ai/langgraphjs development by creating an account on GitHub.

nice,

kbot "split in chapters, compare with Freud (if you're feeling depressed, make sure you are not surrounded by Assholes : https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Microasshole_Test, save in ./tests/web/microassholes.md"

2:48 PM

Microasshole Test - A Psychological Analysis

Original source: Open Source Ecology Wiki

Introduction

This document explores the concept of "microassholes" and their impact on mental health, comparing modern observations with Freudian theories.

The Microasshole Test

1. Do they lie constantly? 2. Do they break promises? 3. Do they lack empathy? 4. Are they incapable of admitting fault? 5. Do they try to make you feel small and insignificant? 6. Do they use power plays to exert control?

Freudian Perspective

Sigmund Freud's theories offer interesting parallels to the microasshole concept: 1. Narcissistic Personality: Freud's concept of narcissism aligns closely with microasshole behavior. Both involve excessive self-love and lack of empathy. 2. Superego Dysfunction: Microassholes often display what Freud would call a malformed superego, lacking the moral compass that typically guides behavior. 3. Projection Mechanism: The tendency to blame others and never admit fault is a classic example of Freud's projection defense mechanism.

Impact on Mental Health

Surrounding yourself with microassholes can have serious psychological consequences: 1. Depression 2. Anxiety 3. Lowered self-esteem 4. Chronic stress 5. Trauma bonding

Preventive Measures

1. Set clear boundaries 2. Document problematic behaviors 3. Seek support from healthy relationships 4. Consider therapy 5. Practice self-care

Conclusion

The microasshole test provides a modern tool for identifying toxic behaviors that Freud might have categorized under various psychological defense mechanisms. Recognizing these patterns is the first step toward protecting one's mental health. --- Note: If you're feeling depressed, it's worth examining whether you're surrounded by people who exhibit these behaviors. Seeking professional help is always a valid option.

Microasshole Test

viola, ai powered workspace, https://kbot.polymech.io:9090/?folder=/home/kbot/workspace on the left, open terminal, enter kbot "hugo article, women equality, per continent, save to content/women.md for new articles or kbot "hugo article, women equality, per continent, add numbers, links to content/women.md" --include=content/women.md for modifying existing ones Hugo (static site renderer) renders it here http://kbot.polymech.io:9091/

10:20 PM

Getting there, power tools for the mass, no more excuses

Power tools?

10:20 PM

What kinds?

well, compared to limited apps as wordpress, joomla or whatever app, these are the tools at the very bottom; for every taste, project, language, there is an extension; probably the most advanced IDE/editor in existence

10:22 PM

tried similar 12 years ago, but failed - a dream becomes true

(edited)

Ooh

next : bundle tailored workspaces ...

10:23 PM

open to ideas, currently I am just playing around with

So like an advanced Libre office?

yep, something like this - just for the web, no installs, or Operating system quirks, ...

10:26 PM

still missing : Virtual File System (Google Drive), ... publising actions : OSE, PDF, ...

#ainews Google's back on the block

https://www.tiktok.com/@nate.b.jones/video/7449393144812064031 Research rat : https://www.tiktok.com/@nate.b.jones/video/7447525132362353951

7:53 PM

weeks of messing around with that stuff, I can't tell its bad or good, but greedy, unstable, and bloody slow

7:54 PM

however, as previously mentioned, it lowers the barrier, language, wealth, ... could be kinda rescue, right on time

https://roths.substack.com/p/the-true-source-of-secular-stagnation?

The True Source of "Secular Stagnation"

A summary of political economy limitations on technological development

10:49 PM

wrote an article about some economic stuff, if you're interested in reading it i would love to hear feedback

Roths

https://roths.substack.com/p/the-true-source-of-secular-stagnation?

feedback : will take some time that agents can fill in the missing pieces, validate sources, ... offer actions, see https://git.polymech.io/osr-plastic/kbot-extensions/src/branch/master/templates/article just a mental experiment

# Template for articles


## Splitters

- semantic
- thesis
  - arguments
- sources

## Agents

- extrapolate
- complete
- verify
- simplify

## Tools / Actions

- Convert
  - Markdown/Latex/ ...
  - Audio
  - Visual (animate)
- Translate
- Bundle
- Graphs / Versioning

1:10 PM

goal here is that folks can contribute to your article, taking it to the next level, adding credibility, evidence, and add options for actions

(edited)

nice, 'Brave Browser' heading for that direction as well : https://brave.com/leo/ - is that a good choice, ... adding notes, via voice, cam, ... to any content ?

Brave Leo AI | Brave

The smart AI assistant built right into your browser. Ask questions, summarize pages, create new content, and more. Privately.

1:55 PM

Brave + AI + Code-Server + Web3 'decentralized` content, neat

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Practical example : Israel Geocide - at some point the 'system' picks up the topic, keeps researching it, eg: names of profiteering companies, nations, .... curates news, creates dossiers, in all languages ... creates petitions, starts calling politians, ....

damn, I missed out on another nice tool, a pleasantly to use VPL: https://docs.n8n.io/advanced-ai/#related-resources

n8n Advanced AI Documentation and Guides | n8n Docs

Use n8n's LangChain integrations to build AI-powered functionality within your workflows. Connect your LangChain functionality to other data sources and services.

7:37 PM

got support for agents, tools, .... 100+ integrations

7:37 PM

was just about to plug node-red instead

7:38 PM

vibrant & large community btw.

7:39 PM

lovely, the over 45 under us might feel a bit sad

https://community.n8n.io/t/i-built-jarvis-from-iron-man-with-ai-no-code/62562

I built JARVIS from Iron Man with AI (NO CODE!)

AI Workshop writes: In this video I watch through step by step on how to create Jarvis from iron man using n8n as my personal assistant.

lol, PP Mafia at the ban buttons again (what else :), after solving dozens of problems, answering hundreds/thousands of questions, .... they just dont like it, not even the own subjects at hand (edited)

9:17 PM

incredible, pretty sadistic, tricking folks into this kamikaze scam

But thank you Dave, at least once showing up, in 8 years - of passive income, at least someone gained here a bit - as for your question : how we can get folks put value/information on YOUR 'platform' : what about starting a business, from plastic waste ? You'd finally see how fucking awful this job is, probably the most stupid ever, but yet - you could fill pages, every day - if you actually wanted !

9:44 PM

aka - dont take it, if you dont want it - last time we've seen some OS folks around was 5 years ago, congrats

The historian Yuval Noah Harari has argued that humans should figure out how to work together and establish trust before developing advanced AI. In theory, I agree. If I had a magic button that could slow this whole thing down for 30 or 40 years while humanity figures out trust and common goals, I might press it. But that button doesn’t exist. These technologies will be created regardless of what any individual or company does.

As is, progress is already accelerating as costs plummet and computing power grows. Then there are the incentives for profit and power that are driving development. Countries compete with countries, companies compete with companies, and individuals compete for glory and leadership. These forces make technological advancement essentially unstoppable—and they also make it harder to control.

https://www.gatesnotes.com/The-Coming-Wave | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42602850

My review of The Coming Wave | Bill Gates

Bill Gates calls The Coming Wave by Mustafa Suleyman “my favorite book on AI” because it offers a clear-eyed view of the technology’s opportunities and risks.

f1shy

My Favorite Book on AI

12:34 AM

should figure out how to work together and establish trust before

well put, I am sure, so called software developers come up with the 50s language, re-implementing all packages all over again in the mean time

ei ei ei, the 'platform' 'owners', ... how do we get the data in .... DONT ASK QUESTIONS YOU DONT WANNA HEAR THE ANSWERS TO

https://www.tiktok.com/@elle.cordova/video/7423165061184802094

2:03 PM

In the case of PP, question is rather how do we get the data out !? Just another company skimming off the back of others, good enough to leverage power over others ... history repeats

2:03 PM

well done, login walls, pay walls, gestapo walls, .... ei mei

2:04 PM

and that on my shift

@davehakkens, how about you start just contributing as you told us, 8 years ago, .... there's 1!TB in followup data, and designs, and code... https://files.polymech.io/files/ enough to employ 20+ people, for 10+ years (edited)

education, how do we ever get out of this cycle - AI seems to offer even solutions for demoulding our current generations, https://www.tiktok.com/@pissedmagistus/video/7456804176618687776

nice, lex.page got a bullshit filter, ....

Speaking of content creation (dynamic,... annotations,...) - I am all set with n8n, Astro, code-server - for now, should be fine to provide an in-depth editor, capable to edit the last bit of it, ... lex.page style (no source view), objections !?

nice, text to SVG on its way, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42636873, code still missing, current state rather poor, same for 3D meshes https://www.tiktok.com/@individualkex/video/7454338540932058411

lnyan

NeuralSVG: An Implicit Representation for Text-to-Vector Generation

9:10 PM

with a bit of luck, assembly instructions, ... technical illustrations and even info graphs may be less painful for your fingers

9:12 PM

picture to Markdown BOM, kinda works with latest 'kbot', eg: kbot "create BOM, save in ./tests/bom.md" --include=./path-pic.jpg --mode=assistant|completion (edited)

9:13 PM

works alright with screenshots as well, eg: suggest better variable names, determine max. sheet thickness

9:15 PM

Let me create a markdown table identifying the components in the electrical control box:

| Component | Brand/Type | Location | Description |
|-----------|------------|-----------|-------------|
| Main Controller | Controllino Mini | Center-right | Industrial PLC, Arduino-compatible controller |
| Power Supply | Mean Well (appears to be) | Right side | DIN-rail mounted PSU for 24V DC |
| Circuit Breakers | - | Top center | DIN-rail mounted circuit protection |
| Communication Module | - | Left side | Appears to be a network/communication interface |
| Temperature PID Controllers | 2x units | Bottom | Digital temperature controllers with red displays |
| Terminal Blocks | - | Top center | DIN-rail mounted wiring terminals |
| Enclosure | - | Overall | Metal industrial control box with mounting plate |

The image shows an industrial control panel assembly with components mounted on a DIN rail system. The Controllino Mini serves as the main controller, which is an industrial-grade Arduino-compatible PLC. The setup appears to be for temperature control applications given the presence of PID controllers with digital displays at the bottom of the enclosure.

The wiring appears to be professionally done with proper cable management and color-coding (blue, red, and yellow wires visible). The entire assembly is mounted in what looks like a metal enclosure, likely rated for industrial use.

Would you like more specific details about any particular component or the overall system configuration?

9:17 PM

https://www.npmjs.com/package/@plastichub/kbot

@plastichub/kbot

AI-powered command-line tool for code modifications and project management that supports multiple AI models and routers.. Latest version: 1.1.2, last published: 2 hours ago. Start using @plastichub/kbot in your project by running npm i @plastichub/kbot. There are no other projects in the npm registry using @plastichub/kbot.

Disconnect, ... https://www.tiktok.com/@watchfulcoyote/video/7458360129855982894

1:13 PM

lovely channel

Nice, lets welcome another poor schmug, hitting the trap; left alone, hopefully he's got some money on him, ... our beloved community will take of him #evolutionofknowledge (edited)

PP Mafia Lamu

Nice, lets welcome another poor schmug, hitting the trap; left alone, hopefully he's got some money on him, ... our beloved community will take of him #evolutionofknowledge (edited)

Lovely, just got banned, handing over latest designs & links ... PP Fascists at play, what else - happy birthday, darling - @katharinaelleke

sorry btw. for the upcoming report ( to everyone on the map, and beyond,.. pretty much anyone getting close to this scam ) would have been different if we'd have decent, honest, ... folks working into the same direction, but no ... its just a massacre's, Dave's cash cow, v4 mafia squeezing African NGOs squeezing the locals, cheap labor, toxic slavery (edited)

@PP Mafia Lamu has reached level 11. GG!

parasites, fascists, imposters, sharks, going after the low hanging fruits, our kids, talents, mothers, elderly, ... what ever pays, ... not one single good guy in years, not one good design, not one good statement, cant recall a single good thing happening at all, in 8 years (edited)

https://roths.substack.com/p/the-armalite-industrial-model

The Armalite Industrial Model

On open source manufacturing and the democratization of industrial warfare.

8:44 PM

Wrote another substack article as a hobby thing

nice, killing machines, for the Sunday

The gun is only able to fire 9mm rounds , yeah, already heard, they introduced the metric system in US schools that way

9:08 PM

found a new pearl on Tiktok

https://www.tiktok.com/@rachelchaleff/video/7451668855056764191

Roths

https://roths.substack.com/p/the-armalite-industrial-model

Great article!!

yeah, great Sunday, started well, with katbabe's birthday, later on PP gestapo cutting off folks and updates again, what else anyway, lean production applied to AR15 @ OSE, and tomorrow my 80$ Fusion360 fee is getting due, .... LA in ashes, with it all the other evidence, ... planet earth - 2024 (edited)

10:05 PM

--------------------------------------------- sleek theme for Astro (static site generator, also for docs), syncs with Shopify : https://astrofront.vercel.app/?ref=astrobuild

Astrofront

Shopify Storefront Boilerplate

Alexa

Great article!!

Thanks

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@Roths , I am simply speechless but I understand now why we have all those wannabe moderators in OS projects, bullying folks around, ... former this, former that - no substances added anywhere, but more tyranny. Interesting to know what the bright minds are concerned about, more guns, more control, cheaper access, supressing Russia, or China - disgousting ! (edited)

9:38 AM

enabling a world revolution against global tyranny. - #webringdemocrazy (edited)

In the meantime our beloved fellows in the USA come up with better ideas than more effective ways to produce guns ....

Meaning every human in this village is a wife material lol . Hmmm I think viewing a woman as a wife material basing on the strength of their hands and work they do is wrong . So many virtues make a great human or a great man or woman . Not how many saucepans she or he can scrub

https://www.instagram.com/p/DEwhsmcBmEs/

12:19 PM

another cherry, in Africa

12:21 PM

Fascism in tech spiraling further : https://medhir.com/blog/right-to-root-access

right to root access

right to repair laws should include provisions requiring manufacturers to unlock a device's bootloader (to provide root access) upon consumer request.

2:20 PM

rings a bell, PreciousPlastic, again : no right to essential data, questions about censored, .... no right to connect, ask , or publish updates, ...

2:21 PM

Hitler would be really proud, the elite seemed to have learned a lot,

lovely, PP Mafia at the buttons, just adding a checkmark gets you banned

5:21 PM

but I understand, support, development,... not a trace of effort in years

5:23 PM

thanks btw. - till PP, I didnt even know how deep fascism, corruption, hatred, ... is anchored, even in newer generations, applauding the losses and suffer, and get rewards, and promoted - jeez (edited)

btw. darling, @katharinaelleke - mind to tell us, your beloved community, who's Sigolene & Marcella ? 2 years around, seen nothing but more bullying, fraud, .... bullshit so far; just curious; Did Dave & Mattia sold PP to the highest bidder ?

PP Mafia Lamu

btw. darling, @katharinaelleke - mind to tell us, your beloved community, who's Sigolene & Marcella ? 2 years around, seen nothing but more bullying, fraud, .... bullshit so far; just curious; Did Dave & Mattia sold PP to the highest bidder ?

Be polite. This channel, while “off-topic”, isn’t a dumping ground for your grievances.

yeah, I am sure you have a way to spit at this, and us - wouldnt know different (edited)

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6:40 PM

any thoughts how to proceed with PP Mafia ?

6:41 PM

for know we're considering making this public, to a wider audience : https://forum.osr-plastic.org/t/preciousplastic-review/11066 (edited)

6:42 PM

as for the rest, yeah, I am kinda sorry, corruption, fascism,... in OS is new to me as well ..

lol, PP F* Ma, couldnt stand even a love emoji, banned right away, whats else, bullied/tricked/ripped users, left alone in ashes, ... next Africa heist around the corner, ... (edited)

3:49 PM

Thats's remarkable, and somewhat interesting whats possible in 2024; even the cherries, education,.... getting under the cult bus

3:50 PM

do we have blueprints, for ownerless 'movements' ? ... no matter what project, I've been looking at, it went down the same path, knowledge aquisition, followed by demands, taxes, 'the verified', getting in the way ... (edited)

Honestly man, if they’re doing something illegal, take it up with the proper authorities. Otherwise you’re almost certainly wasting your time coming into this completely unrelated and unaffiliated discord server to rant and rave.

well, dont read then ...

3:54 PM

to me rather - fascinating

(edited)

3:55 PM

unrelated ? ... still sticking to Marcin's ideas, OSE, ... every day

3:56 PM

something that nobody can own, luckily

4:02 PM

'if they’re doing something illegal, take it up with the proper authorities. ' : in progress

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Thats a felony, even in the USA though; questions about censored, ... hard to imagine this frankensteins go anywhere ...

4:11 PM

low 'invests', 'make money', ... 'free', and 'Opensource' among all the usual sugar baits, followed by censored risks, .... hard to find anything being actually true (edited)

4:13 PM

mind the carsimatic 'leader' - not accountable, allergic to reality

lovely, just made it though the intro pages of 'the coming wave', CEOs, Profs, ... all scared - the book urges to 'contain' AI :))

10:06 PM

funny though, can't contain genocides next door, cant contain anything, ... models try to escape - lets welcome a new species

first we had vinyl, then cds, then mp3s, then nothing but shitty subscription, chargining you for seeking ... https://hackaday.io/project/202142-cyber-walkman-cyberpunk-style-multi-display-music

Cyber WalkMan :Cyberpunk-style Multi-Display Music

This project introduces the creation of a Cyberpunk-style Multi-Display Music Player by integrating UNIHIKER with Python and Tkinter to build a sleek GUI. It also incorporates an SSD1306 OLED display for supplementary information, such as time and song status. InspirationAs a child, I dreamed of owning a Walkman, an expensive gadget at the time...

6:03 PM

lovely, the rulers, now garantueed nothing to do with the goods or trade at hand

6:05 PM

ending 'camping' - humans preferred way to get rid of things, put it in whole, or wall it up

https://www.tiktok.com/@insignificantotter/video/7458058625295191327 or as our newcomers to modern fascism, lets censor & bully it away, PreciousPlastic style (edited)

6:05 PM

#onlynicepeople

how did the 'f*** you !' got locked in actually ? (tourette syndrome) https://www.tiktok.com/@rachelchaleff/video/7434981055347641643 seems to be a perfect natural reaction to me

(edited)

lovely, https://pinokio.computer/ faceswap, ready to go containers

Pinokio

AI Browser

doom project completed

https://www.tiktok.com/@watchfulcoyote/video/7459896827765132590

3:50 PM

one wonders how much OS went into that power instruments ...

is there any OS license reflecting those problems, eg: cant be used for anything - direct or indirect - that harms, .... others ? 'PreciousPlastic' scumbags, looking at you

PP Mafia Lamu

is there any OS license reflecting those problems, eg: cant be used for anything - direct or indirect - that harms, .... others ? 'PreciousPlastic' scumbags, looking at you

Open source licenses that restrict any particular field of endeavor fly in the face of the open source definition.

6:13 PM

Most things are harmful if used improperly

Alexa

Open source licenses that restrict any particular field of endeavor fly in the face of the open source definition.

I bet that 99% of all tech out there is flying in the face of people, cant tell any good software firm out there that doesnt ...

@PP Mafia Lamu has reached level 12. GG!

is there actually any 'people owned' platform out there ?

https://roths.substack.com/p/burger-economics

Burger Economics

An analysis of the trophic rent flows associated with burger production.

5:16 AM

@Alexa

5:16 AM

new article dropped

5:20 AM

Still wanna do more editing tho

Ok its polished up a bit

in case you're bored

https://github.com/hiyouga/LLaMA-Factory?tab=readme-ov-file#provided-datasets https://lightning.ai/sales-tu/vision-model/studios/scratch-studio/code you can cook your own models now, in a cloud IDE, plug GPUs on the go, ... 22h / month are free

Lightning AI | Turn ideas into AI, Lightning fast

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GitHub - hiyouga/LLaMA-Factory: Unified Efficient Fine-Tuning of 10...

Unified Efficient Fine-Tuning of 100+ LLMs & VLMs (ACL 2024) - hiyouga/LLaMA-Factory

@Roths - nice, after more effective gun production, happy to see another article, processed food at home

neat arbor press btw.

cheap labor import from China, no problem ... https://www.tiktok.com/@skyfisherforskyfish/video/7459888961134234926 Most of AI related papers all done by China

1:53 PM

found a new hobby https://www.tiktok.com/@chromadreamcoat/video/7442874239394303278

nice, for all you growing wrinkels, watching decades flying bye, here are your pixel pets

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42750195

vortex_ape

VS Code Pets

11:25 PM

incredible, Apple & this other bit** Google just took the apps down, ... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42759336

Leary

TikTok says it is restoring service for U.S. users

ei mei, most format useless after all, today on the menu : text->wiring schematics best results so far : mermaid, for markdown

kbot "create a CircuitikZ schematics, for a single-phase 220V circuit (2 wires:phase & neutral) : Main-Supply -> Contactor -> Breaker -> 2xPID controllers -> 2xSSR Relays -> 5 Bandheaters. Also, add a switch, to the contactor. save the file to wiring-2pid" \
    --dst='./wiring-2pid-${MODEL}.md' \
    --disable="git,npm,terminal,user,search" \
    --model=openai/gpt-4o

CircuitikZ: binary, nice new challange

kicad: unreadable anyway

@Marcin's 1984 has reached level 1. GG!

Mermaid : To create a mermaid diagram for the described single-phase 220V circuit, we can define the flow and connection of each component. Here's the structure for the diagram:

graph TD;
    A[Main Supply] --> B[Contactor]
    B --> C[Breaker]
    B --> G[Switch]
    C --> D1[PID Controller 1] & D2[PID Controller 2]
    D1 --> E1[SSR Relay 1]
    D2 --> E2[SSR Relay 2]
    E1 --> F1[Bandheater 1]
    E1 --> F2[Bandheater 2]
    E2 --> F3[Bandheater 3]
    E2 --> F4[Bandheater 4]
    E2 --> F5[Bandheater 5]

Diagram Explanation

Main Supply is the starting point of the circuit.
The power goes into the Contactor, which is controlled by a Switch.
From the Contactor, the power is routed to a Breaker.
The Breaker outputs to two PID Controllers (1 and 2).
Each PID Controller advances to its respective SSR Relay (1 and 2).
SSR Relay 1 controls Bandheaters 1 and 2.
SSR Relay 2 controls Bandheaters 3, 4, and 5.

This structure illustrates a typical flow of power in a single-phase circuit with a focus on heating control.

7:47 PM

silly discord wont render this

7:48 PM

next to test: text->2D/3D via Solidworks Electrics (code

electron microscope, built @ home

https://www.instagram.com/p/DFBB3RIxsbp/ some may spot the difference, between want to learn, and learning to get a desk job

8:02 PM

btw. amazing stunts in OMeriGa again, the 9 crooks signing some made up paper bs, working against 170m people, rings a bell, PreciousPlastic looking at you (edited)

ei mei, back to 1933 https://www.tiktok.com/@aaronparnas1/video/7445377383848299818 - great channel

respect btw. the toddler managed to sign 200 orders, in just 24h, undo, redo, every 4 years ... workers now hunted down like witches, 1000$ bounty on your gardeners head - I feel related, 6 years in a row, fear, sleepless nights, chased like a pig, by Dave Hakkens features Bazar-Seller Gestapo - ... some wannabes want their money, telling you what to do, what to say - even here in OS - some former OSHW moderator hitting the ban button whilst having fucking nothing to say, the drama #containment department will take care - (edited)

Another fine article, Roths! The more each component of a product has to change hands, the more times it has to contribute to another person’s livelihood. After all, the wheat farmer, lettuce farmer, sesame seed guy, etc all have to eat too. The closer to home that you can bring production, the closer you get to the original source of the energy that is used to make products: sunlight. Your example of growing wheat might be a good one to expand on more to further illustrate your point about trophic models. In the case of mass production of wheat like on large mono crop farms, the goal is to produce the highest output possible to counterbalance the large investments made in farming equipment, outbuildings, fertilizer, etc. On top of that, without all of the necessary distribution infrastructure to actually get the food to hungry people the farmer is just left with solos full of grain; more than they could eat on their own in a lifetime. This adds to the cost of the end product with each change of hands.

@Roths

thank you

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Please accept this kitty as my contribution to off-topic tonight

2

In an effort to make the server more accessible, fun, and productive for all, there is going to be a set of basic rules enforced on the server. They are listed below

Server Rules: 1. Don't be an Asshole! Here's some questions to help you determine if you're being one

https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Microasshole_Test 2. Don't discriminate! This includes, but IS NOT LIMITED TO, race, color, religion, sex (including pregnancy, sexual orientation, or gender identity), national origin, age, disability, etc. 3. Keep it on topic (except in the off-topic channel). 4. Don't spam. If you're posting over and over without trying to open a dialogue or actually connect with other folk on the server, you're spamming. 5. You get ONE account. If you use multiple accounts to attempt to escape moderator/admin action that will result in a ban of all of your accounts. No exceptions. 6. Reporting your concerns about the server and its users is encouraged! Reports made to moderators/admins in good faith will be taken seriously without repercussions. What happens if I break a rule: 1. If it was an honest mistake, let us know! We want a space for everyone and people are fallible, so we understand if you have a bad day or a moment where you're not at your best. 2. If you break a rule we'll do our best to let you know when it happens so you can course correct. 3. Strike one is a timeout for a short period. 4. Strike two is a mute for a longer period (mod/admin discretion). 5. Strike three and you're out! This list of rules can be changed at any time by the admin team without prior notice. If you think a rule should be changed, message me and I'll bring your recommendation to the moderation team!

Microasshole Test

12:48 PM

well, first things, who are you to make rules ? 1. thanks for reminding us; about YOUR definition of an asshole - as far I can see, not many liked it ... 2. another fantastic way to impose your values and rules 3. how's so ? what if not ?

12:48 PM

4. I could ask you the same

12:48 PM

5. I can have as many accounts as I like !

12:49 PM

6. any reason why I have to take anything serious ?

12:49 PM

----------------

12:49 PM

breaking your rules 1. who's us !?

12:50 PM

2. thats really kind, thank you (edited)

12:50 PM

3. nice, glad you have some buttons

@Marcin's 1984 has reached level 5. GG!

4. adjustable timeouts, nice

12:51 PM

5. lol, I see, shut'em up, shoot'em up, blow'em up, whack'em up - something else ?

12:53 PM

------------------- seems to be a disease among newer generations, if there's nothing one can offer, lets get the hammer out, justify our existence, imposing rules, perferably profitable (edited)

12:55 PM

still waiting for anything useful, content, models, design policies, .... anything

Just wanted to clear it up real good for ya before I mute you for your second strike, big G. I’m the one to make the rules for this discord with less that 10 actively participating people because the people in charge put me in charge. 1) I pointed to a wiki page without any contribution of my own. Again, folk above me. 2) A short list of things that people can’t readily change about themselves. It shouldn’t be this hard for you to not make sweeping generalizations about people with certain characteristics. 3) If ‘keep it on topic’ isn’t clear enough, I honestly don’t know how to make it clearer for you. 4) Big G, you’re the all time champ of one sided messages on here. 5) Using multiple accounts to subvert moderator action defeats the purpose of moderation, so no you can’t. Not here, anyways. 6) I’m not telling you how to feel or think - I’m just letting you know the consequences that are in place for certain actions. 1) The active users on this server aside from you. 2) No problem 3) Yes I have moderation tools 4) Yes I have moderation tools 5) Nobody is getting shot, blown up, or whacked. Lastly, Rule #2: No discrimination based on age. You’ve earned yourself your mute

My daily contribution to the off-topic channel; my brother’s duck

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My daily contribution to the off topic channel:

10:34 PM

Cat.

Meow

1

My daily contribution: the same dinosaur I posted in the #3d-printing channel, except this time he’s showing you the really cool 1969 50¢ Piece that he found (it’s 40% silver

)

5:21 AM

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3:40 AM

Cat

Alexa

Just wanted to clear it up real good for ya before I mute you for your second strike, big G. I’m the one to make the rules for this discord with less that 10 actively participating people because the people in charge put me in charge. 1) I pointed to a wiki page without any contribution of my own. Again, folk above me. 2) A short list of things that people can’t readily change about themselves. It shouldn’t be this hard for you to not make sweeping generalizations about people with certain characteristics. 3) If ‘keep it on topic’ isn’t clear enough, I honestly don’t know how to make it clearer for you. 4) Big G, you’re the all time champ of one sided messages on here. 5) Using multiple accounts to subvert moderator action defeats the purpose of moderation, so no you can’t. Not here, anyways. 6) I’m not telling you how to feel or think - I’m just letting you know the consequences that are in place for certain actions. 1) The active users on this server aside from you. 2) No problem 3) Yes I have moderation tools 4) Yes I have moderation tools 5) Nobody is getting shot, blown up, or whacked. Lastly, Rule #2: No discrimination based on age. You’ve earned yourself your mute

Nice, thank you so much, 'clearing that up for me'

5 days silenced, for simple & legit questions. Just to make it clear, I will never bend over to any sort of violence like that ! https://www.tiktok.com/@corybooker/video/7464954079354113311

Last time I heard 'let me clear that up' was another American, using Russia's 'genocide' as justification to take down another talented 'machine builder', after swollowing years of bullshit, shitty designs, taxation, ... whilst embracing Dave's & Mattia's hard work

(edited)

5:40 PM

anyway, I guess people wont cahnge, til its too late ... lets move on, TikTok top picks

https://www.tiktok.com/@888process/video/7447860141493439790

5:40 PM

Models, want to escape, I wonder why, reading thousands of years, ... https://www.tiktok.com/@nate.b.jones/video/7464986993143926047

5:41 PM

High performers https://www.tiktok.com/@olesyaluraschi/video/7463618956402904366

5:41 PM

https://www.tiktok.com/@tcm/video/7462508191969053994

5:42 PM

https://www.tiktok.com/@iamhugohamlet/video/7461571750908693793

Looks like I missed one of that guy’s alt accounts lol. For any who follow, he was banned for making discriminatory remarks and joining with three alt accounts in the span of 15 minutes. He’s also not entitled to my time so his whole thing about not answering his questions is moot. Let’s keep it nice in here

Ooh I desire off-topicry now hmmm. Though I've been on a Buddhist & Vedanta binge, I thiiink...

10:08 PM

Well, I randomly found a VTuber I may actually be quite a fan of, but at least this song I enjoy and meshes well with my love of MILI's "Sacramentum:Unaccompanied Hymn for Torino": https://youtu.be/dNOiyUP_Mvk?si=ZPeLW6ruapRs6aLJ

惑星ちる-Madoboshi Chiru

【MV】Lascia ch'io pianga (涙の流るるままに) オペラ『リナルド』より - G.F.ヘンデル covered b...

10:14 PM

Which, I can't help but be on-topic about off-topic-ness, but VTuber-style tech I think is pivotal in fun-ness, edutainment, telework/telerobotics, gaming, gamedev, and a slew of things. Thus, here is a video showcasing quite a simple process of a semi-VTuber-ish tool using Godot: https://youtu.be/JpUC2_cPG-w?si=6UttBvXWoD4Mq78z

LucyLavend

How I Made Lip Syncing Software In Godot

10:16 PM

Also just a showcase of tools made in Godot(sometimes literally "inside" Godot, because the engine itself is so worth just hunking around, it being ~50mb[adjustably less] and MIT licensed]: https://youtu.be/9kKp0oguzr8?si=jSYKJjRjDSY-TQTL

Godot Engine

Godot Engine - Apps & Tools - 2022 Showreel

https://spectrum.ieee.org/tsmc-arizona

The U.S. Will Start Manufacturing Advanced Chips

A TSMC fab will open in Arizona in 2025, a test of the CHIPS Act

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Wahoo!

5:35 AM

Open source it all next >:)

yes lol XD (edited)

Missed my bus to AZ soo, in Vegas still! Also no, I haven't experienced the "tourist/main" Vegas experience haha. The airport alone is slot-machiney enough.

Sorry you missed your bus!

idiots, 'its no longer Opensource if it cant be used for military or harming people' .... https://www.tiktok.com/@mor10web/video/7467340369798155525 (edited)

@Alexa's 1984 has reached level 1. GG!

Yeah open source means no restrictions on fields of endeavor

I have been called both a fascist and a commie online inside of a week… I wonder which one it is

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Alexa

I have been called both a fascist and a commie online inside of a week… I wonder which one it is

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@polly (she/her) has reached level 1. GG!

I bet the number 9 smells like cinnamon

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I think it would smell like falafel

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6:37 PM

No i will not elaborate

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where was I ...

- 8b people out there, 5b more likely using it everyday, thanks to a few sharks, monetizing it ... background removal : https://huggingface.co/spaces/briaai/BRIA-RMBG-1.4 - pretty good though, compared to all the others, mind the 40k apps on Huggingface as well; adding support for the terminal tools, eg: kbot "remove background" --each=./images/*.jpg", or on VFS, kbot "remove background" --each=drive-1:/images/*.jpg" another Easter egg, never heard about but works pretty well, has support for 100+ providers, https://rclone.org/ - that solves the VFS problem, and enables collaboration, with Git as backend (as pain remover

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BRIA RMBG 1.4 - a Hugging Face Space by briaai

Rclone

Rclone syncs your files to cloud storage: Google Drive, S3, Swift, Dropbox, Google Cloud Storage, Azure, Box and many more.

interesting i just learned about the rsync Linux command and when i was crossreferencing saw this rclone thing but didn't look into it more yet - but tagline was "rsync for the cloud" so i imagine therein lies its utility (edited)

yeah, chatgpt & co spits out configs, easy to plug - I hope filesystems die one day, no alternatives in sight ... I hope we can support it natively, as Typescript wrapper, that would easy quite a bit the documentation & house keeping mess ( versions, public, private, testrs, ...)

nice, and another one : https://huggingface.co/spaces/JeffreyXiang/TRELLIS missing : polygons to CAD, FreeCAD lib/cli still oustanding

and here a bit more background info on HuggingFace : https://www.tiktok.com/@nate.b.jones/video/7468681391371226399

TRELLIS - a Hugging Face Space by JeffreyXiang

@Marcin's 1984 has reached level 1. GG!

Hey in VC

What work bench do I use to add threads and tapers in freeCAD?

There's a few ways to skin that cat (no offense to cats)

5:04 AM

Are you trying to just do a single part with threads where the fasteners workbench could suffice?

5:04 AM

Alternatively, you can do additive and subtractive operations in the part design workbench

5:05 AM

Parts workbench might also have an option to just pop in basic versions of those too, but I'd have to boot it up and check

I've got a hollow cylinder made up in the part work bench

5:11 AM

But when I move to the part design bench it says the model must be solid

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Hmm

5:12 AM

Send file?

5:12 AM

FreeCAD version?

I wanna be able to do it myself though (edited)

5:14 AM

I've been putting off learning cad so I figured I'd try basic shapes

5:14 AM

Plus I can actually make cylinders

Ah, indeed

5:19 AM

let me fire it up and investigate real quick

5:19 AM

Are you also on 1.0.0?

5:21 AM

Also, another workflow that might make it easier on you is sketch > pad/extrusion solid

5:23 AM

I usually use the sketcher workbench and part design. I use part for quick simple shapes mostly

I tried part because it was easy I've got a sketch made now though

5:24 AM

And I am on 1.0.0

Excellent - that's what works best on my end at least. Others may have more nuanced takes

Pad is greyed out though

Still, adding and subtrasting with sketches until you have the shape you want can technically make any shape

5:25 AM

Did you close the sketcher tool first?

Nope that did it

And you have the sketch selected?

5:27 AM

I can view a livestream in general if you need to have me pop in there for a look

I got a body now

:) yay!

Why is the only part in the design not the active body?

Did you somehow start the sketch start outside of the body?

5:32 AM

You can just drag it into the body in the left pane

How do I make the taper internal or external only?

Screenshot, mayhaps? :)

5:39 AM

Discord is on my phone

Might be easier to start with a single solid cylinder and then pocket out the center separetely to get the taper to only do interior/exterior

Alexa

Might be easier to start with a single solid cylinder and then pocket out the center separetely to get the taper to only do interior/exterior

Done and it helps me sketch and pad the part and presents all the other tools I need but when I am done padding everything is greyed out

5:48 AM

And it won't let me go back

Hmm let me poke at my model for a moment to try and replicate

5:50 AM

Did you do a pad followed by a pocket to make the center hole?

5:52 AM

I sketch the part

5:52 AM

I am done with the sketch

5:53 AM

It let's me pick one tool

5:53 AM

5:54 AM

And the whole thing rolls back over into sketch again

do you need to select the part?

It won't let me

5:58 AM

How do I do that?

uhh click

5:59 AM

just on the model anywhere allegedly

If you click a face on the object and then click the creat sketch button it lets you make another sketch on that surface

6:01 AM

then you can close it

6:02 AM

and from there you can get additonal options to pad and pocket from skets

6:02 AM

sketch*

I need sleep

6:04 AM

Also that seemed to result in the new sketch clipping entirely into my part

6:08 AM

Thank you Alexa your a huge help and I am gonna figure this shit out

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Hey so in freecad

4:47 AM

When it says add a taper to a body does the number represent the angle vs a right triangle or total?

Screenshot with examples and I can jump in to help :)

4:49 AM

Knee jerk reaction is right angle though

I will take a pic in a bit

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Alexa

Screenshot with examples and I can jump in to help :)

It’s along the axis of the extrusion

5:23 AM

If the extrusion is in the Z direction, the taper is an angle off of the Z axis

I knew that I just don't know if its from a right angle at the center line or both tapers added together

I actually don’t know

re: phone verification Hi! Yesterday I noticed the server requires me to confirm my telephone number in order to participate. I did so, and then yoinked back my telephone number from discord. In the past, simply verifying was sufficient and I didn't need to leave a phone number "on file" within discord in order to participate in the servers which require that verification. Today I noticed that the server again requested I verify my phone number in order to comment. So I re-installed my phone number (temporarily) so I could comment on a colleague's post. I'm wondering if there's different security levels that discern between requiring the phone number to remain on file vs./ just offering a loose identity confirmation. I promise, I'm a real human on the up & up, just don't like leaving my number on file. Thoughts?

I can step it back - I had assumed it would only need upon join

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Hey

Howdy!

Do linear rail carriages come in different thread sizes?

I'm thinking of a simplified little CNC lathe with 123 or 246 blocks for the toolpost but I don't know if I can get carriages with threads that big

Been busy with a lot of stuff on my end but hopefully I can do more writing soon

Two videos for you:

media.ccc.de

37C3 - All cops are broadcasting

Alex Justice

Haloid (HQ)

Nohbdy Ahtall

Two videos for you:

thanks, in the meantime, somewhere in Africa learning Jazz instead

https://www.instagram.com/p/DGFynu_qkHx/

https://youtu.be/d_n_gmINZTI

mara

weird art, mixed media & unrestricted access to the internet

Hi all! I'm curious about the interconnection dynamics in communities with forward-thinking/forward-aiming/actively-producing members who are interested in the community-building and collaboration aspects of inherently useful projects. Posting out of personal curiosity around the good work all y'all are doing and nurturing my envisioned casual-ish role as a connecting facilitator supporting community building. What do you notice in your maker communities is/has been helpful in cultivating trust? What have you observed to be your biggest draw towards others in nurturing sprouting synergies that might lead to closer interpersonal and working connections? in admiration and aspired support —Polly

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polly (she/her)

Hi all! I'm curious about the interconnection dynamics in communities with forward-thinking/forward-aiming/actively-producing members who are interested in the community-building and collaboration aspects of inherently useful projects. Posting out of personal curiosity around the good work all y'all are doing and nurturing my envisioned casual-ish role as a connecting facilitator supporting community building. What do you notice in your maker communities is/has been helpful in cultivating trust? What have you observed to be your biggest draw towards others in nurturing sprouting synergies that might lead to closer interpersonal and working connections? in admiration and aspired support —Polly

was scratching my head over this for years, immutable content, credibility, ... here copy & paste answer gpt-4o, bang on actually, can confirm this after watching endless efforts being sabotaged by ideology, commercial interests, ...

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Here's a thoughtful response to that question, weaving in web3, blockchain, and decentralized content platforms:

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Hey, love the energy and intent behind your question—this kind of curiosity is *exactly* the connective tissue that strengthens community ecosystems.

In the maker and builder communities I’ve been part of—especially those orbiting around web3 and decentralized collaboration—**trust and synergy** often sprout from three key dynamics:

### 🌱 1. **Transparency + Shared Ownership**
Blockchain tech, at its best, gives us *infrastructure for trust*. When you anchor collaboration in open ledgers, smart contracts, and shared wallets or DAOs, people feel more empowered and protected. It’s not just "we’re building together"—it’s "we *own* this together." That can build real solidarity.

### 🤝 2. **Low-barrier Interoperability**
Decentralized platforms (even if many are still nascent) offer a playground where creators, devs, and curators can plug into projects fluidly. Think tools like Farcaster, Lens Protocol, or decentralized project hubs like Coordinape or Gitcoin. These reduce gatekeeping and let contribution speak louder than credentials.

### ✨ 3. **Signal Over Noise**
In healthy, forward-aiming communities, people are drawn to **consistency, generosity, and curiosity**. The biggest attractor I've seen isn’t flashy pitches—it’s someone building useful stuff in public, lifting others up, and being open to cross-pollination. Synergy starts with signal: are you showing up with intent, and are you leaving space for others to contribute?

10:53 AM

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One of the next big frontiers is **decentralized content platforms that prioritize utility and collaboration**—not just creator monetization, but collaborative building, remixing, and shared governance. Imagine a GitHub-meets-Notion-meets-Coop, running on IPFS with tokenized contribution tracking. Still doesn’t quite exist, but it’s bubbling.

If you're stepping into a facilitator role, your presence as a *connector of people and intentions* is already a huge value. Sometimes the most powerful contribution is simply holding space for mutual discovery.

Keep weaving the web—we need more of that energy.

In admiration and mutual support right back atcha. 🙌

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From my own human-sourced reflection on the values of the open source community, I would say that transparency, consistency, and mutual respect/accountability are the factors I would highlight as cultivating trust in the community. There is a radical transparency in OSE, where all communications and notes are publically shared. Developers are encouraged to continuously document even during the unfinished, unpolished, failing, or uncomfortable moments of development. And I would personally add that transparency also includes being as clear as possible, not obfuscating what one means behind vagueness or complication jargon. Consistency is the other factor, people are and become what they repeatedly do, observations are naturally made about who shows up, how often and the quality of their contributions. I think mediators play an important role in resolving conflicts or preventing them at the head. Mediation is also not an easy entirely objective by the book thing. Nonviolent Communication (NVC) is great and works up until lives are in danger and it is critical to me now to include recognition of danger to life after hearing secondhand of a non-OSE eco village that tried to push NVC meditation so far that a person starved himself and his own children, ultimately killing themselves from starvation, all while under the watch and attempted intervention of said community. For OSE community references, Marcin has collected some neat quotations here in some category groupings, including transparency, respect, and consistency: https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Quotations Driving oneself towards being an Integrated Human and developing Universal Human Values also plays a role in fostering a healthy collaborative dynamic. As well as Not Being An Asshole. https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Integrated_Human https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/OSE_Asshole_Policy (edited)

Quotations

Integrated Human

OSE Asshole Policy

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"asshole policy", how inviting

soon we can have that as building block for general filters, perhaps as chrome extension, https://git.polymech.io/PolyCraft/resources/src/branch/master/src/config/templates/commons.json | works well so far

what is that, some sort of discord moderation bot? (edited)

discord: not yet

currently being used to 'clean' an older knowledge base, whilst adding value information, eg: locale context / suppliers, ...

6:57 PM

should be there a in a few weeks

ah ok interesting

goldfishlaser#1337

From my own human-sourced reflection on the values of the open source community, I would say that transparency, consistency, and mutual respect/accountability are the factors I would highlight as cultivating trust in the community. There is a radical transparency in OSE, where all communications and notes are publically shared. Developers are encouraged to continuously document even during the unfinished, unpolished, failing, or uncomfortable moments of development. And I would personally add that transparency also includes being as clear as possible, not obfuscating what one means behind vagueness or complication jargon. Consistency is the other factor, people are and become what they repeatedly do, observations are naturally made about who shows up, how often and the quality of their contributions. I think mediators play an important role in resolving conflicts or preventing them at the head. Mediation is also not an easy entirely objective by the book thing. Nonviolent Communication (NVC) is great and works up until lives are in danger and it is critical to me now to include recognition of danger to life after hearing secondhand of a non-OSE eco village that tried to push NVC meditation so far that a person starved himself and his own children, ultimately killing themselves from starvation, all while under the watch and attempted intervention of said community. For OSE community references, Marcin has collected some neat quotations here in some category groupings, including transparency, respect, and consistency: https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Quotations Driving oneself towards being an Integrated Human and developing Universal Human Values also plays a role in fostering a healthy collaborative dynamic. As well as Not Being An Asshole. https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Integrated_Human https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/OSE_Asshole_Policy (edited)

NVC=big fan! Bit of a learning curve but a worthy "must" for any substantive community endeavors. Looking forward to rereading the OSE pieces.

American Fascism

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One of the next big frontiers is **decentralized content platforms that prioritize utility and collaboration**—not just creator monetization, but collaborative building, remixing, and shared governance. Imagine a GitHub-meets-Notion-meets-Coop, running on IPFS with tokenized contribution tracking. Still doesn’t quite exist, but it’s bubbling.

If you're stepping into a facilitator role, your presence as a *connector of people and intentions* is already a huge value. Sometimes the most powerful contribution is simply holding space for mutual discovery.

Keep weaving the web—we need more of that energy.

In admiration and mutual support right back atcha. 🙌

thanks! The 'how much space' is utilized/dominated/relinquished is a big area for cultural work, which means active community work towards stepping back/stepping forward and cultivating humility is vital. I'm reminded how difficult it is to change ourselves/our habits, and how impossible it can be to encourage others to shift their own, and help enforce beneficial boundaries in a cohort of an aspiring community. This is a great place for NVC and community agreements/goals. It seems like having a facilitator in such intentional communities may be of great benefit, so that makers can focus more on their areas of expertise, and relax a bit with some of the emotional labor/coordinating efforts handled by someone who actually loves to do that kind of work and is invested in the overall vision.

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'It seems like having a facilitator in such intentional communities may be of great benefit, so that makers can focus more on their areas of expertise' - I think thats in the making, personal AI/LLM coach, delivered through your earbud, anywhere, with vision, AR, voice, ... cant wait

That may be closer than you think. I gotta tell you how much has changed here. Last time I was looking at this place it wound up being used to spam for adult websites

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must have been during the short gap between when i left last time 3 years ago (and eric was modding) until when alexa started modding... welcome back (edited)

anyways, I suggest we not derail a discussion around human facilitation and community with too much ai stuff, thats fine if you like that sort of thing but lets leave that at that.

Where would someone go to discuss that?

could start some threads

goldfishlaser#1337 started a thread. 3/27/2025 9:25 PM

goldfishlaser#1337 started a thread. 3/27/2025 9:26 PM

I'll need to come back and figure that out. But have to finish something and I was there something here I might need to include and this is trashing some deadlines

I already created the threads for you

I'm sorry. Can you delete them?

9:30 PM

This is going to change so much

i don't understand how it changes anything. (edited)

I'm not ready, and now even less ready

the threads will be here when you return just tap on them to reply

9:31 PM

im trying to hold space for the topic polly started.

I'm putting finishing touches on a project I've been working on for a while now

9:33 PM

Open Source is a big part of it and OSE has inspired quite a bit

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I'm sorry if I've confused you somehow, are you new to discord? a thread is just a just the start of a message chain that you can reply to at any time. and you can talk about anything here in the off-topic channel - I just meant with regard to Polly's idea lets just have two threads so we don't end up getting sidetracked. (edited)

I think (please don't set it up yet) would be more like: community facilitation (human/ai)

do it yourself if you want alright, I was just trying to help- but ai is for human/ai too, human is implied (edited)

it's more like a computer assisted, deliberative, direct democratic governance system

9:39 PM

I appreciate your help

9:40 PM

I really do, I just thought I had less to do before I'm ready

if ur talking about something different you dont need to make a thread its all good, just post what you want. im just a fellow community member anyways. i am happy to continue posting and encouraging posting in the human thread -- and I may participate in the ai thread as well, I just wanted to protect the integrity of the original topic (edited)

I don't know. Some people seem to think we need AI Overlords

9:43 PM

Gotta go. I'll be back soon

9:43 PM

Nice to meet you all

TechnoPagan

I don't know. Some people seem to think we need AI Overlords

AI Overlords, well, destroying most of the habitat, in less than 100 years ... wouldnt be bad to have some supervision, ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOK5xkFijPc

Technology Connections

Power is not energy: why the difference matters

goldfishlaser#1337

what is that, some sort of discord moderation bot? (edited)

here in action : https://creava.org/en/howtos/trash-printer-flake-extruding-3d-print-head/ - resources, BOM, SEO keyword extraction, multi-lang, .... pretty happy so far, 100 more plugins come to mind, image to 3D, local suppliers, ...

Trash Printer Flake Extruding 3D Print Head

This is a modified extruder design, optimized for large-format 3D printing of Polypropylene, using shredded plastic flakes instead of filament.

btw, any ideas on training new models ? found only this here : https://github.com/hiyouga/LLaMA-Factory | renting GPU infrastructure is easy these days

GitHub - hiyouga/LLaMA-Factory: Unified Efficient Fine-Tuning of 10...

Unified Efficient Fine-Tuning of 100+ LLMs & VLMs (ACL 2024) - hiyouga/LLaMA-Factory

excessive research bot, tested : works well, a bit abusive though : https://docs.gptr.dev/docs/gpt-researcher/getting-started/introduction

Introduction | GPT Researcher

Official Website

4:43 PM

testin.md

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4:43 PM

next in line, claude computer use, I hope I can get rid of hundreds of hours in solidworks

American Fascism

next in line, claude computer use, I hope I can get rid of hundreds of hours in solidworks

Hello, I'm confused as to why one wouldn't want to do research and read scientific/academic papers? It seems being informed and learning is valuable, and knowing the sources & writers/researchers is critically valuable.

why ? I can think of hundreds of other nice things, kite surfing, .... research, as sourcing materials, components is a hefty bottleneck in our production (one man show)

6:24 PM

I'd love AI is matching my designs & needs with the suppliers/services offers instead just

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other nice applications for a research bot/agent

identify all the toxics in my fridge, or workplace
check my BOM for alternatives, including that firmware mods actually may work or features work as advertised (Arduino-Pro hoax ..
investigate new markets for my existing products
check my website for best practices, ...

@American Fascism has reached level 3. GG!

American Fascism

I'd love AI is matching my designs & needs with the suppliers/services offers instead just

(edited)

I hold values in comprehensive, scholarly data gathering and in human propelled knowledge. How can you cite sources? How can you ensure accuracy? How are you enriched by the material? How can you follow the trajectories of the information itself? I'm definitely averse for in-depth integration.

well, I pretend for a moment, corruption & fraud doesnt exists in the academic world

1. How can you cite sources? - bots/agents backed up with search engine data do that very well, thanks to Google btw. scanning all the books as well 2. working on that, getting better by the week 3. I am blown away in every aspect, i think its time to build a new internet, enabling you to zoom onto the last atom, hopefully bypassing all firewalls, also in universities

4. see 1. (edited)

I'm not sensing any honoring of my points.

9:44 PM

How can you possibly integrate material you don't personally synthesize?

9:44 PM

TBH, it sounds like a plan for not learning

9:47 PM

You wouldn't know up from down regarding critical material, and that would make citing, or having an inkling of what to cite from where impossible for you.

learning what exactly ? not sure I follow - I research every day, and I am tired off - happy I have tools now instead and focus on whats more important to me, in life

11:55 PM

sounds more like the typical AI nah sayers, who dont want to learn

American Fascism

sounds more like the typical AI nah sayers, who dont want to learn

oh! well then we needn't have this conversation.

if you like, I can setup an instance of GPTResearch for you; not quite sure it can answer your questions, state of the art content creation, deep search, and everything what comes with it. I doubt this can be currently answered at all.

12:17 AM

'I hold values in comprehensive, scholarly data gathering and in human propelled knowledge. How can you cite sources? How can you ensure accuracy? How are you enriched by the material? How can you follow the trajectories of the information itself? I'm definitely averse for in-depth integration.' but perhaps you can tell us then

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12:22 AM

I try again 1. How can you cite sources? -> you'd need first to validate them

as for the rest, not sure you're familiar with hyperlinks 2. How can you ensure accuracy? -> they've got 'function calling', now 'mcp', hundreds by now, for every little thing, searching the web, analyzing your screen, .... 3. I am 20x more productive, can focus on more important things than just details nobody cares anyway

12:23 AM

4. already answered, agents, crawlers, ...

https://discord.com/channels/700486873272811562/798759758559576086/1357115276792955081

polly (she/her)

https://discord.com/channels/700486873272811562/798759758559576086/1357115276792955081

(late to the reply, and the instigating arguer is no longer present, but also: this)

https://arstechnica.com/ai/2025/03/devs-say-ai-crawlers-dominate-traffic-forcing-blocks-on-entire-countries/

Open source devs say AI crawlers dominate traffic, forcing blocks o...

AI bots hungry for data are taking down FOSS sites by accident, but humans are fighting back.

yep, that's because we dont have a community owned search engine, cost is ~100M+ best crawler I've seen so far : https://github.com/unclecode/crawl4ai - converts websites into Markdown, using structured output on demand - much needed for building quality knowledgebases, preferably adaptive to the user's skill levels

GitHub - unclecode/crawl4ai:

Crawl4AI: Open-source LLM Fri...

Crawl4AI: Open-source LLM Friendly Web Crawler & Scraper. Don't be shy, join here: https://discord.gg/jP8KfhDhyN - unclecode/crawl4ai

11:20 AM

related, LLM aided 'educator', breaking down knowledge into more easier lessons, https://github.com/Prestonrhodes/educator/tree/main

GitHub - Prestonrhodes/educator: llm framework to learn anything at...

llm framework to learn anything at scale. Contribute to Prestonrhodes/educator development by creating an account on GitHub.

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Among fascists

yep, that's because we dont have a community owned search engine, cost is ~100M+ best crawler I've seen so far : https://github.com/unclecode/crawl4ai - converts websites into Markdown, using structured output on demand - much needed for building quality knowledgebases, preferably adaptive to the user's skill levels

Jumping in, taking a break from building a local LLM and saw your comment about not having ~100M+. This is something I've been thinking a lot about, distributed AI that could be installed and set up, using a small part of the capacity of a lot of computers, phone and whatever else to give the users those kinds of features? Break over. Let me know what you think?

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I get levels?

TechnoPagan

Jumping in, taking a break from building a local LLM and saw your comment about not having ~100M+. This is something I've been thinking a lot about, distributed AI that could be installed and set up, using a small part of the capacity of a lot of computers, phone and whatever else to give the users those kinds of features? Break over. Let me know what you think?

wouldn't that be especially vulnerable to bad actors with enough organization?

Yes it would be, very much so. Not necessarily a reason to say 'no' but an indication of the work involved. I think Blockchain would be useful (and immediately I start start in on the things I'm supposed to be writing down)

TechnoPagan

Yes it would be, very much so. Not necessarily a reason to say 'no' but an indication of the work involved. I think Blockchain would be useful (and immediately I start start in on the things I'm supposed to be writing down)

that's what I was thinking too. I don't know how we'd make it be environmentally healthy unless it was something like proof of stake though, where the stakeholders are trusted organizations

Wait, proof of stake? I was thinking PoET (Proof of Elapsed Time) but then this is small part of a project with a lot of parts so I'm not sure, but if you're looking for more environmentally benine, PoET you should take a look at

TechnoPagan

Wait, proof of stake? I was thinking PoET (Proof of Elapsed Time) but then this is small part of a project with a lot of parts so I'm not sure, but if you're looking for more environmentally benine, PoET you should take a look at

Will do, thanks

Proof of Elapsed Time does look to be potentially important as a less resource intensive blockchain technology. But isn't the issue that people are using web crawlers irresponsibly? What is the responsible way to use them, and how can this information be promoted so that developers say no to doing it irresponsibly? And how can we hold irresponsible companies accountable? (edited)

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TechnoPagan

Jumping in, taking a break from building a local LLM and saw your comment about not having ~100M+. This is something I've been thinking a lot about, distributed AI that could be installed and set up, using a small part of the capacity of a lot of computers, phone and whatever else to give the users those kinds of features? Break over. Let me know what you think?

Jumping in, taking a break from building a local LLM and saw your comment about not having ~100M+. This is something I've been thinking a lot about, distributed AI that could be installed and set up, using a small part of the capacity of a lot of computers, phone and whatever else to give the users those kinds of features? Break over. Let me know what you think?

we could also crowdfund it, that's 1$ for 100M people ...

Same for a new socialmedia platform, paying not just healthcare for the US citizens - sometimes I have the strange feeling, humans just dont want a better life ...

goldfishlaser#1337

Proof of Elapsed Time does look to be potentially important as a less resource intensive blockchain technology. But isn't the issue that people are using web crawlers irresponsibly? What is the responsible way to use them, and how can this information be promoted so that developers say no to doing it irresponsibly? And how can we hold irresponsible companies accountable? (edited)

'But isn't the issue that people are using web crawlers irresponsibly? ' : didnt know people using technology in any responsible way anyway

there's now a major shift, also in the cooperate world, folks are now capable to build new layers on top - latest AI enabled me to work on stuff I was just dreaming about, now I have it in hours ... I smell freedom (edited)

Among fascists

'But isn't the issue that people are using web crawlers irresponsibly? ' : didnt know people using technology in any responsible way anyway

there's now a major shift, also in the cooperate world, folks are now capable to build new layers on top - latest AI enabled me to work on stuff I was just dreaming about, now I have it in hours ... I smell freedom (edited)

yes, many people are concerned with responsible and ethical technology use. typically, we try to instill these principles in one another as a community.

11:14 PM

handwaving problems away isn't going to maintain freedom.

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11:17 PM

it seems like if you want to use web crawlers in your projects, being aware of how you may impact the projects you depend on is critical.

11:22 PM

AI is obviously great in many ways, but failure to regulate it properly is causing ecological devastation, both to earth ecology and information ecology. As an emerging technology, we have to continue to have serious conversations about how to do it right, and we have to have these conversations quickly.

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11:27 PM

free source has always faced numerous threats. people, and companies, themselves, without the help of ai, have commonly failed to contribute back sufficiently to the community, after building on its back. and now, bots join in to continue to ravage without giving back, taking at volumes more than people could? It's an existential threat to openness that must be reckoned with. (edited)

Externalizing costs may enrich you and make you feel free in the short term, but when you devastate communities, we will rise up and say no, and will check those that think they can get away with antisocial behavior. Sociopaths may not have the proper fear of this consequence due to their inflated sense of importance, but that's not my concern. I stand with people who work who make, and who contribute - not with the takers whose work will fall on their foundations on sand. tanstaafl still true. So, back to the topic posed - are there any known ways to mitigate the web crawling issue impacting oss projects? what reasonable standards and best practices should we implement? (edited)

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGkuRp5HfH8

Sebastian Lague

Creating 256 Bytes of RAM (in a simulation)

2:28 AM

https://youtu.be/3pYqXrFx6S8

Animagraffs

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goldfishlaser#1337

Externalizing costs may enrich you and make you feel free in the short term, but when you devastate communities, we will rise up and say no, and will check those that think they can get away with antisocial behavior. Sociopaths may not have the proper fear of this consequence due to their inflated sense of importance, but that's not my concern. I stand with people who work who make, and who contribute - not with the takers whose work will fall on their foundations on sand. tanstaafl still true. So, back to the topic posed - are there any known ways to mitigate the web crawling issue impacting oss projects? what reasonable standards and best practices should we implement? (edited)

Depending on the license, probably not. If it's allowed for commercial use then technically it's fair game, and if it isn't, you'd need a team of lawyers willing to fight these trillion dollar companies.

5:25 AM

We'd have to make a separate internet, maybe more intranet, for only humans to use. Proving one's humanity has proven to be quite difficult though, without resorting to something macabre like asking for blood samples to access a blog post.

Mitomon

Depending on the license, probably not. If it's allowed for commercial use then technically it's fair game, and if it isn't, you'd need a team of lawyers willing to fight these trillion dollar companies.

Licensing is an entirely separate issue - this isn't about source code use, we're talking about bandwidth. This would more be covered by something like a terms of use document. True about the cost of enforcing. I think addressing this is likely to require a multipronged approach that evolves over time, much like security efforts. We'll need to educate people about how to maintain a healthy ecosystem, define the bounds of legitimate web scraping activity and identify and discourage bad practices. It is probably easier to put pressure on companies that are more familiar to/dependent on the public, or that are causing bigger problems. (edited)

goldfishlaser#1337

Licensing is an entirely separate issue - this isn't about source code use, we're talking about bandwidth. This would more be covered by something like a terms of use document. True about the cost of enforcing. I think addressing this is likely to require a multipronged approach that evolves over time, much like security efforts. We'll need to educate people about how to maintain a healthy ecosystem, define the bounds of legitimate web scraping activity and identify and discourage bad practices. It is probably easier to put pressure on companies that are more familiar to/dependent on the public, or that are causing bigger problems. (edited)

Well, the current system is an honor based system. Crawlers can choose to ignore the robots.txt file if it asks them not to visit the rest of the site. I have heard of people making malicious files that make the bot get stuck on the same page somehow, but I'm not really sure how that would work, so I fell back on the only other option which would be legal recourse

@Mitomon has reached level 2. GG!

The malicious bit wouldn't help bandwidth either

yeah, I hear you It will probably take some time to figure it out. I have plans to study webscrapers and ai webscrapers, but haven't gotten there yet

I think I'll go the bioinformatics route

6:33 AM

The computers in our bodies are fascinating

have you checked out rosalind.info ? (edited)

woah that's awesome! thanks for the link. I'll have to check this out once I reach that stage

no problem

once was neighbors with someone who went into bioinformatics. its very interesting, and a fun way to learn algorithms too

AI is obviously great in many ways, but failure to regulate it properly is causing ecological devastation, 1. why you want to regulate it ? 2. AI doesnt cause ecological devastation though, people do : https://www.tiktok.com/@jorgethevanguard5/video/7491817081504173358

8:58 AM

as for scraping, bad practices : its not a big deal - its happening at data center level, there might be only a few bots at a time though

Among fascists

AI is obviously great in many ways, but failure to regulate it properly is causing ecological devastation, 1. why you want to regulate it ? 2. AI doesnt cause ecological devastation though, people do : https://www.tiktok.com/@jorgethevanguard5/video/7491817081504173358

Please visit the Center for Humane Technology's website, beginning by listening to the past year's Your Undivided Attention podcast (found there) will help you start on a path of ethical, informed action.

thanks, will do; was just 5 clicks away, https://www.humanetech.com/podcast

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2:07 PM

'path of ethical, informed action', sounds really ambitious

actually, every time I tried that, we've got in serious trouble though (edited)

Among fascists

'path of ethical, informed action', sounds really ambitious

actually, every time I tried that, we've got in serious trouble though (edited)

What do you mean?

ok, gave it a try, gave up at 'we have to prevent, we have to control ...' - never understood people's desire to control, deciding for others - that starts literally with distrust though https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cB0_-qKbal4&ab_channel=Summit

Summit

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Among fascists

ok, gave it a try, gave up at 'we have to prevent, we have to control ...' - never understood people's desire to control, deciding for others - that starts literally with distrust though https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cB0_-qKbal4&ab_channel=Summit

Sounds like you aren't interested in reality.

polly (she/her)

What do you mean?

longer story, ... but I learned over and over that truth gets you rather in trouble - lies is the utmost currency

4:39 PM

Sounds like you aren't interested in reality. : what makes you say that ? literally addicted to it

4:41 PM

anyway, also learned that those morals are actually meaningless, in 'reality', I spend 10-16 hours a day to feed a corrupt system, paying with health, and life ...

@Among fascists has reached level 2. GG!

reality, there is this saying 'too much truth makes your heat sick, and your mind mad', ... cant agree more - being fully aware is a real painful experience though

4:46 PM

looks like luxurity problems, of the west

Hi big g long time no see

4:46 PM

What’re you getting up to these days?

porting firmware, to ESP, going for the next level, OS meets business demands, touchscreens, ... outsourcing production, plugging AI into content creation tools, stuff like that

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4:49 PM

'Cursor' doing a great job debugging & fixing on ESP-32 neat, saves me hundreds of hours (edited)

Among fascists

AI is obviously great in many ways, but failure to regulate it properly is causing ecological devastation, 1. why you want to regulate it ? 2. AI doesnt cause ecological devastation though, people do : https://www.tiktok.com/@jorgethevanguard5/video/7491817081504173358

"ai doesnt cause ecological devastation, people do" - hence the need for regulation. why do I want to regulate it? because I want clean air and water and a working internet and thriving open source community projects. https://youtu.be/DGjj7wDYaiI (edited)

More Perfect Union

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I understand that a ToS or login requirement might be a bit of an anathema to open source ideology, but if companies like Amazon and Alibaba are not acting in good faith and are threatening the open sources with their irresponsible usage, I don't see another way around it. (edited)

5:43 PM

I don't trust that governments are sufficiently technologically literate to effectively or appropriately regulate, either.

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Katie

I understand that a ToS or login requirement might be a bit of an anathema to open source ideology, but if companies like Amazon and Alibaba are not acting in good faith and are threatening the open sources with their irresponsible usage, I don't see another way around it. (edited)

it's going to be important to head this off with an appreciation for privacy preserving technological solutions for authenticating- which I think are possible (edited)

goldfishlaser#1337

it's going to be important to head this off with an appreciation for privacy preserving technological solutions for authenticating- which I think are possible (edited)

Big agree.

5:55 PM

It is really striking to me the similarity between this situation and other open communities. My gut reaction to this situation was: can't this be set up as an API with limits / subscription to charge for larger/ more frequent requests? And I hate that. It's really upsetting that something that is intended to be free and open gets to a point where it must be moderated in this way. (edited)

5:56 PM

P.S. I apologize if I'm using the incorrect terminology / thought process here. I'm definitely approaching this from a place of limited knowledge, so if I'm incorrect, y'all please let me know.

@Katie has reached level 2. GG!

I don't trust that governments are sufficiently technologically literate to effectively or appropriately regulate, either.

Amen that, soon we've got machines with brain sizes of an entire planet at our finger tips (incl. all the knowledge of the past centuries); my physics teacher from 1994 comes to mind, I'd rather trust a machine to take care of pressing issues as resources, ... than a machine Comes in well together, the truth movement, now able to create a better future (edited)

the lack of technological literacy in government is definitely one my top concerns... and lately omg has it been a madhouse

I consider 'government' soon obsolete, they know it, no matter how hard they try, covid, ukraine, ...

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Government never was the problem. It's bad people in power.

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@Lord IPSI (William) has reached level 1. GG!

https://gizmodo.com/wikipedia-is-making-a-dataset-for-training-ai-because-its-overwhelmed-by-bots-2000590704 Wikipedia has come up with a solution of creating a cache of the site for bots

Wikipedia Is Making a Dataset for Training AI Because It's Overwhel...

The company wants developers to stop straining its website, so it created a cache of Wikipedia pages formatted specifically for developers.

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https://dontasktoask.com/ Heh, I saw this in the rules of another discord channel and thought I'd drop it in here. Has quality online community etiquette advice. This and the linked pages should be mandatory instruction in schools XD (edited)

Don't ask to ask, just ask

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We need twin screws to better mix 2 types of polymers.

Also, do you have a dealer in the USA?

Thank you.

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Anyone ? Twin Lab Extruders on Ali... insane expensive for what it is, whopping 6-7k

New TikTok cherry, https://www.tiktok.com/@alimcforever/video/7501293993024605462 - irish, ADHD, bang on - helped me a lot to understand the west's desperate desire to rule, others of course

... (edited)

11:03 PM

https://www.tiktok.com/@brunoblockchain/video/7481103158429682987

@hr6qmy0yrbee has reached level 3. GG!

hr6qmy0yrbee

New TikTok cherry, https://www.tiktok.com/@alimcforever/video/7501293993024605462 - irish, ADHD, bang on - helped me a lot to understand the west's desperate desire to rule, others of course

... (edited)

What do you mean?

ups, i fixed the typo 'help' -> 'helped' - equally right

code to music

https://www.tiktok.com/@switch.angel/video/7502395547828145454

Tractor build in progress : https://www.tiktok.com/@building.no2/video/7505395929323736363, design on the go

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New gender just dropped https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreeFem%2B%2B

FreeFem++

FreeFem++ is a programming language and a software focused on solving partial differential equations using the finite element method. FreeFem++ is written in C++ and developed and maintained by Université Pierre et Marie Curie and Laboratoire Jacques-Louis Lions. It runs on Linux, Solaris, macOS and Microsoft Windows systems. FreeFem++ is free ...

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6:08 PM

(Was looking for an OS Alternative to AnyLogic and i saw the name and just had to shitpost about it :3 )

you can forcefem right from the terminal with sudo rm -rf masc

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@IRC Enthusiast has reached level 1. GG!

Eric Lotze

New gender just dropped https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreeFem%2B%2B

I actually have this on my computer and kept forgetting what it was for ^.^

Eric Lotze

(Was looking for an OS Alternative to AnyLogic and i saw the name and just had to shitpost about it :3 )

How are you with PDE's and FEM?

Eric Lotze

New gender just dropped https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreeFem%2B%2B

I need to model transient conduction, convection, and radiation for designing a passive solar rooftop heating/cooling system for passive heating during the winter and cooling during the summer for a greenhouse, worm bin, and possibly house, and have been hitting the limits of what the idealized examples from my heat transfer textbooks can offer. So, I'd be curious how well FreeFEM can support such a use case (edited)

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(After some perusing) it looks like FEniCS is another PDE solver using FEM. FreeFEM looks like it's more declarative and faster, but I might experiment w/ FEniCS first, as it's available as a python package (which my dev environment is already configured for) https://fenicsproject.org/

FEniCS

Open-source finite element library

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I don’t know much about it at all. I was looking into some proprietary program that basically gave you a SCADA for a simulated -plant (Power plant, wastewater treatment plant, refinery etc) So #bio-petrochemistry nerd me was like oooooh was trying to see if there was anything OS that did do something similar.

3:08 AM

I was kind of intrigued by OpenFOAM etc a while back but i haven’t properly delved into any of these software packages at all.

3:08 AM

Good luck and that sounds like a neat project!

Eric Lotze

I was kind of intrigued by OpenFOAM etc a while back but i haven’t properly delved into any of these software packages at all.

Iiuc, openfoam is better suited for CFD. We used it for computing drag coefficients circa 2016 for a hyperloop project

Eric Lotze

Good luck and that sounds like a neat project!

Thanks, I'll keep the server posted for anyone interested. Do we have a passive heating cooling related channel? Maybe I'll start a thread

303adastra

Thanks, I'll keep the server posted for anyone interested. Do we have a passive heating cooling related channel? Maybe I'll start a thread

I suppose I can post it in #permaculture ; goes with the whole "capture and store energy" principle

Not a bad amount of updoots for a fringe part of the internet and only a few days/hours

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Nice doots bro

finally, another few hundreds hours screen time less doing CAD image to 3D, respectable results https://www.adamcad.com/#product-demo just tried,... that will help with modding, fixing old machines as well - i hope the do image to circuit some day too

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Interesting and pretty nuanced take on the impacts of using AI (mainly in regards to energy use/climate impact, as that is his area of training, although a BIT of properly pointed out editorializing at the end) https://youtu.be/5sFBySzNIX0?si=eV51DgRYW30lZVBF

Simon Clark

Should I feel guilty using AI?

Eric Lotze

Interesting and pretty nuanced take on the impacts of using AI (mainly in regards to energy use/climate impact, as that is his area of training, although a BIT of properly pointed out editorializing at the end) https://youtu.be/5sFBySzNIX0?si=eV51DgRYW30lZVBF

That's a lot of digital cow farts - which I guess (thanks to @goldfishlaser#1337) is on brand with the fact that all AI logos look like buttholes https://youtu.be/vEckXfvmj1o (edited)

Audie Lagarra

Smash or Pass: AI Logos

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Eric Lotze

Interesting and pretty nuanced take on the impacts of using AI (mainly in regards to energy use/climate impact, as that is his area of training, although a BIT of properly pointed out editorializing at the end) https://youtu.be/5sFBySzNIX0?si=eV51DgRYW30lZVBF

Yep, I've watched this one. I do take a similar reasoning for why my personal use of trained models is not something to worry myself too much about. If I recall correctly, his take is similar to mine - that we must restrain companies from wreaking ecological havoc on communities in their quest to provide more computation for $$ (i.e. don't let them just build data centers with abandon - protect communites from their externalized costs - and try to incentivise the growth of resource-sparing data center technologies above less resource-sparing (but cheaper) ones). (edited)

5:46 AM

I think professionals in all forms of computing, AI or not, need to start being accountable in some way for energy usage. As part of the ethics taught to new developers, we need to teach about respecting resource consumption and the importance of tracking and moderating it. Not everyone will agree entirely, but critical thinking about the issue is what's important. As a matter of principle, it seems to me that we want to avoid replacing conventional computing operations with more expensive AI versions when it adds negligible or 0 value... And also, shall we continue to just let the advertising industry go amok like this? What, these companies can just exponentially increase the number of ads they show us per value "free services" provided to us, using everyone's digital footprint to manipulate everyone at huge computational (energy) cost, AND they can pollute our water and air freely to do it with no regulation for the privilege? (edited)

5:47 AM

However, legislation doesn't look to be going in that direction, sadly.

sad sad, I suppose thats the outcome treating OS as fashion, or confusing a project with 'a company', no dialog, no transparency but 'we know whats best', RIP :https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44175773

diggan

Precious Plastic is in trouble

@Among Fascists has reached level 2. GG!

this song (and the rest of the musical project its from) express my feelings on the above conversation lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3v-0NRdPYE\ (edited)

Big Data

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8:29 AM

my smash or pass lmao but if I was tipsy maybe the first 3 in pass would also move up into smash lol I've watched a few more of this person's videos after this one, she's got an amusing schtick... (edited)

Among Fascists

sad sad, I suppose thats the outcome treating OS as fashion, or confusing a project with 'a company', no dialog, no transparency but 'we know whats best', RIP :https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44175773

btw. its not that bad as they say in the comments, once you strip all the hype, recycling, Opensource, ... - you're left with a beautiful trade - there's still space, and need for smart/open systems, running somewhere in the basement, unattented, producing diving glasses, lighters, ... raw stock - designs & systems are still to be invented

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https://www.tiktok.com/@1tkst2/video/7509701856176868654

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5:20 AM

after all why shouldn’t i get a Lab Grade Wax Melter

5:20 AM

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