Open Source Ecology - start-here

So first the rant on what OSE is Basically a group dedicated to making all the open source hardware needed to build/run a small town/farm. Complex to explain so perhaps watch the ted talk and check it out? Ted talk on the group: https://www.ted.com/talks/marcin_jakubowski_open_sourced_blueprints_for_civilization?language=en More PR-ey Site https://www.opensourceecology.org/ Wiki Link https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Main_Page

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Hello, this is "Just Do Everything" from Youtube. I have been watching OSE for about 5 years, and really excited about the current progress. I don't have a ton of free time, but would love to talk/help in any way I can.

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Welcome @notprimalhaze !

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Is it worth subscribing to the mailing list? Does it have any contributions?

Can we have a tractor-stuff channel (analogous to the cnc-torch-table-stuff)?

Yeah I want to discuss solar tractor

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Is it worth subscribing to the mailing list? Does it have any contributions?

I think the OSE mailing list is not the most active. Here is where there is the most chatter, and I believe in fb group you’d get a faster response from @Jeff H and possibly @Marcin

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I've been watching some of the stuff on youtube related to the eco home, you guys know where I could find an up to date summary on things?

3:14 AM

its pretty interesting to see this being worked on

Roths

I've been watching some of the stuff on youtube related to the eco home, you guys know where I could find an up to date summary on things?

Here's current list of the development work that's going on as OSE pushes to finalize the CAD and BOM for upcoming Seed Eco Home builds this fall. https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Seed_Eco-Home_Collaboration_Team The latest CAD and design details can be found here. https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Seed_Home_v2. Anything in particular you'd like to know?

Seed Eco-Home Collaboration Team

Thats all for now, thanks!

Any updates on the build process?

12:13 AM

I heard there was supposed to be on in December

@Roths I don't think anyone involved with the build in on this Discord server. I've been trying to piece together information from Marcin's wiki updates, but they are few. Looks like at least one house is still in progress. https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Seed_Eco-Home_4_Data_Collection

Seed Eco-Home 4 Data Collection

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Thanks for the information!

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Yw! I've not been terribly involved lately. I should get back into it, but guidance dropped off in the months leading up to the house builds.

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12:06 PM

been checking out OSE's wiki and website for a while now

12:07 PM

is there anyone around doing manufacturing/metalworking-related projects lately? (edited)

12:07 PM

CNC, machining, forging, etc

@rajavlitra Towards the end of the apprenticeship, the last major project in development was the https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/CNC_Torch_Table

CNC Torch Table

4:11 PM

I think since the focus of OSE/Marcin is seed eco home right now, this has been put on the backburner since there is nobody actively pushing it forward

4:11 PM

would love to see more metal fab here though

same, been thinking with a friend on how to make die forging more small scale

maybe start with a very small project, attempt to manufacture something profitable, then using funds make a smaller/more precise open source metal forging/die process

5:04 PM

maybe check out https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Economic_Time_Binding and https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Slide_-_Materials_Ecology

Economic Time Binding

Slide - Materials Ecology

5:05 PM

In particular I think aluminum extraction from clay was something interesting to explore, but if I were to approach metal fab at the local scale I might start by seeing what is possible from melting down used food cans or other scrap (edited)

5:07 PM

https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Aluminum_Extraction_From_Clays

Aluminum Extraction From Clays

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5:07 PM

https://vimeo.com/18095549 there was this one wild video I found some time ago...

5:08 PM

I don't have the ability to work on this locally, but please let me know if you want any help with CAD or thermodynamics simulation

rajavlitra

is there anyone around doing manufacturing/metalworking-related projects lately? (edited)

I'd love to do some metal fab. Still refreshing up on my "Intro to Material Science and Engineering" by Callister. I was considering starting with lost-pla casting, but am currently blocked on the lack of a furnace and knowledge of how to verify the composition of the material

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303adastra

I'd love to do some metal fab. Still refreshing up on my "Intro to Material Science and Engineering" by Callister. I was considering starting with lost-pla casting, but am currently blocked on the lack of a furnace and knowledge of how to verify the composition of the material

well, check 'tom lipton' (https://www.youtube.com/user/oxtoolco), 'abom79', 'clockspring' and 'good old tony' on YT, for a start, not that hard

and of course, the first parts of machinary handbook, one among others : https://git.osr-plastic.org/osr-plastic/osr-resources/src/branch/master/papers/mechanics (edited)

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11:28 PM

seems to be a dying trade though, here in spain i can't get even remotly someone who can all the basics ...

I would love to make some knight armor

7:33 PM

knight techwear, walk around Seattle with my companion AI

7:34 PM

It does seem like it would take a lot of physical resource, or... at least courage... to attempt forging

feel like most people would think you were a pyromanic if you started makin charcoal in an urban area

Wesxdz

feel like most people would think you were a pyromanic if you started makin charcoal in an urban area

interlink with local BBQ places :0 put a sign up too, advertising-ish, maybe then it'd be fine-o

Hello everybody

Bambukah

Hello everybody

Welcome!

Alexa

Welcome!

Thank you, how are you ?

Bambukah

Hello everybody

Welcome! What brings you to the OSE community?

303adastra

Welcome! What brings you to the OSE community?

Someone called Karen invit me here

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7:51 AM

I search about a DIY shredder kit for my PLA We talk together, and VOILA, I'm here

Bambukah

I search about a DIY shredder kit for my PLA We talk together, and VOILA, I'm here

Cool! I have not built a shredder myself, but plan to at some point. Will probably start with an EDM machine, since it looks safer than a CNC machine for machining metal components

303adastra

Cool! I have not built a shredder myself, but plan to at some point. Will probably start with an EDM machine, since it looks safer than a CNC machine for machining metal components

There is no shredder available near me (I live in Mons, Belgium) and we are some 3D print hobbyist (and pros) who want to recycle PLA

8:00 AM

The near fabLab have an extruder but not a shredder

Bambukah

There is no shredder available near me (I live in Mons, Belgium) and we are some 3D print hobbyist (and pros) who want to recycle PLA

Have you checked out the filament pelletizer? I'm planning on also building this, since I have a lot of French fry (or "chips" in some places) sized unused filament that I've been meaning to recycle https://youtu.be/3p7bl7eFaEo

Teaching Tech

Open source filament pelletizer | Naomi Wu needs our help

303adastra

Have you checked out the filament pelletizer? I'm planning on also building this, since I have a lot of French fry (or "chips" in some places) sized unused filament that I've been meaning to recycle https://youtu.be/3p7bl7eFaEo

It's a really nice start ! I have lot of brim / skirt which can be shredder with this ! I also have real 3d printed "fails" & prototypes, So i need a bigger shredder too

You know, I see many "shredders" with plastic blades or with low-end motor... Don't know what is a good solution for PLA...

Bambukah

You know, I see many "shredders" with plastic blades or with low-end motor... Don't know what is a good solution for PLA...

10 hours 'wecrashed' or 'billions', a hammer and a kitchen mixer will do

curiousalbert

10 hours 'wecrashed' or 'billions', a hammer and a kitchen mixer will do

a kitchen Mixer ?!? What is the best for blend PLA ?

- might need some hacks - I wont bother and just keep collecting it instead, there's always somebody with a grinder ... otherwise, this one here spins almost by self, with mesh, deserves some upgrades for bio waste though, my wife keeps bothering me about

https://forum.osr-plastic.org/t/osr-shredder-v3-1-light/10166

Yooo!

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Is anyone around at OSE?

2:35 PM

I was omw to Denver from Indianapolis, was gonna pass by ose, can come and say hi

New here, been popping in on the website and wiki a few times over the past few years. Good to see posts as recent as last week. I honestly expected it to be a ghost town here.

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CAD_CAM_CNC

New here, been popping in on the website and wiki a few times over the past few years. Good to see posts as recent as last week. I honestly expected it to be a ghost town here.

"ghost town", sooner or later it will be, as on every Discord server

Marcin is still pumping bookmarks into wiki : https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges&limit=250

PP Mafia Lamu

"ghost town", sooner or later it will be, as on every Discord server

Marcin is still pumping bookmarks into wiki : https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges&limit=250

I saw that just earlier. E-mailed the info address and waiting on response. I'm retired, with lots of time on my hands, and have 10 acres of undeveloped land here in Oklahoma. I figured I'd put my name out there if they need, or want, some help with equipment prototyping.

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CAD_CAM_CNC

I saw that just earlier. E-mailed the info address and waiting on response. I'm retired, with lots of time on my hands, and have 10 acres of undeveloped land here in Oklahoma. I figured I'd put my name out there if they need, or want, some help with equipment prototyping.

Nice! I'm out on 1 acre in high desert Arizona trying to do the homesteading thing. Taking more of a permaculture approach though, which in theory shouldn't require at least half of the industrial machines listed on the OSE wiki. What kind of equipment were you thinking of prototyping? (edited)

303adastra

Nice! I'm out on 1 acre in high desert Arizona trying to do the homesteading thing. Taking more of a permaculture approach though, which in theory shouldn't require at least half of the industrial machines listed on the OSE wiki. What kind of equipment were you thinking of prototyping? (edited)

Specifically, anything for the tractor, micro tractor, everything CNC, power cube, steam engine, truck, generator, backhoe, dozer, and soil pulverizer, universal power supply. I was an electrician in the Navy, mechanic when I got out of the service, and machinist/cnc programmer for an industrial equipment retrofitter the last couple years. Everything here is right up my alley and under the unbrella of "fun" for me. haha

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12:08 AM

Not to say I wouldn't be happy to work on other stuff, I just have immediate experience on the above.

CAD_CAM_CNC

Specifically, anything for the tractor, micro tractor, everything CNC, power cube, steam engine, truck, generator, backhoe, dozer, and soil pulverizer, universal power supply. I was an electrician in the Navy, mechanic when I got out of the service, and machinist/cnc programmer for an industrial equipment retrofitter the last couple years. Everything here is right up my alley and under the unbrella of "fun" for me. haha

Awesome! Well, happy to have you. Will likely be picking your brain when I also get around to building machining tools

303adastra

Awesome! Well, happy to have you. Will likely be picking your brain when I also get around to building machining tools

Please! I'm sooo bored most of the time.

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CAD_CAM_CNC

Please! I'm sooo bored most of the time.

Nothing on your plate, nothing to prove, isnt that the definition of happiness ? (edited)

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PP Mafia Lamu

Nothing on your plate, nothing to prove, isnt that the definition of happiness ? (edited)

I wish nothing on my plate was my key to happiness lol. My happiness lies in small threshold right before the point of overwhelmed.

CAD_CAM_CNC

I wish nothing on my plate was my key to happiness lol. My happiness lies in small threshold right before the point of overwhelmed.

well, boredomness is a common disease among males these days though; aka you cant travel it away, you cant drink it away, ... those roads lead ultimately to the same end

PP Mafia Lamu

well, boredomness is a common disease among males these days though; aka you cant travel it away, you cant drink it away, ... those roads lead ultimately to the same end

To call boredom a disease is a bit harsh. It's a kind of privilege to be able to find yourself in a state of boredom. Some say it's even a precursor to creativity and problem solving https://youtu.be/LKPwKFigF8U

Veritasium

Why Boredom is Good For You

303adastra

To call boredom a disease is a bit harsh. It's a kind of privilege to be able to find yourself in a state of boredom. Some say it's even a precursor to creativity and problem solving https://youtu.be/LKPwKFigF8U

Here here. A touch of boredom can be fun imho.

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303adastra

To call boredom a disease is a bit harsh. It's a kind of privilege to be able to find yourself in a state of boredom. Some say it's even a precursor to creativity and problem solving https://youtu.be/LKPwKFigF8U

well, I've been referring to the kinda boredomness which comes on top of hopelessness; I am sure you never experienced it, never mind

7:19 PM

looking around, Github, PP, OSE, ... history is basically already written

good example again, same questions, same winners; same loosers, same old dirty tricks - patreon sponsored imposters; filling their pockets, claiming credits, ... not one cent going into education, platform, tools, .... at the top - folks who cant answer even their own & simple questions (edited)

7:34 PM

Thats how I imaged it, the modern 1984; Patreon only, white and rich only, back door sales, taxes, indoctrination/ brainwashing ... knowledge, trade - at the merci of 'machine builders', the island got smaller

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---------------------------------- btw. there's good news; we've got more resources and time to implement the next basics 1. cross platform VFS (Google Drive, REST, ...), with integrated ACLs - that would allow for any editor, and tech (via context menus, eg: AI filters: summarize, translate, or publish to Hugo, ...) 2. modding Discourse : directory / map / event plugin, evtl. trade as well 3. OSRL ( Liquid based, as Shopify ), VSCode extension - perhaps a dual web editor open to suggestions

PP Mafia Lamu

well, I've been referring to the kinda boredomness which comes on top of hopelessness; I am sure you never experienced it, never mind

What you're describing sounds more like ennui that stems from a kind of nihilism, what some might label as depression. I've been there too, it sucks. The only "antidote" as far as I can tell is existentialism or absurdism, or some combination of both. https://youtu.be/MBRqu0YOH14

Kurzgesagt – In a Nutshell

Optimistic Nihilism

thank you, a nice dose of blue pills, 'free', ... do what makes you happy

10:02 PM

I will go for 'dismantling those systems', instead (edited)

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10:02 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLI4nhAE-Rk&feature=youtu.be

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What would you do?

PP Mafia Lamu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLI4nhAE-Rk&feature=youtu.be

Likewise; Mr. OSHW

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12:51 AM

Here, smth again that actually may help; 1. cross platform VFS (Google Drive, REST, ...), with integrated ACLs - that would allow for any editor, and tech (via context menus, eg: AI filters: summarize, translate, or publish to Hugo, ...) 2. Modding Discourse : directory / map / event plugin, evtl. trade as well - 3. OSRL/DSL ( Liquid based, as Shopify ), VSCode extension - perhaps a dual web editor 4. and @303adastra first contrib ever : contribution guideline

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I suppose thats the usual western decadence to answer questions

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PP Mafia Lamu

I suppose thats the usual western decadence to answer questions

I didn't choose where to be born

Wrong channel folks - please continue this sidebar in the off topic channel :) @PP Mafia Lamu @303adastra

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well, attitude is a good subject for #start-here

1:23 AM

btw. its just a chat, not a knowledgebase - hard to imagine someone is scrolling up https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29128361

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9:33 PM

@Alexa - @Gene.N is comming feom Precious Plastic and trying to find a sheet press for plastic. I thought OSE had one in it large repo of machines, but I could be wrong.

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@Alexa - @Gene.N is comming feom Precious Plastic and trying to find a sheet press for plastic. I thought OSE had one in it large repo of machines, but I could be wrong.

Actually, I am planning on making one.

ah very cool have you seen the stuff Brothers Make has been up to? Oh and I see Precious Plastic does also have a sheet press. May or may not have known that at one time. Anyways welcome look forward to hearing about your build! (edited)

Gene.N

Actually, I am planning on making one.

Even better!

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ah very cool have you seen the stuff Brothers Make has been up to? Oh and I see Precious Plastic does also have a sheet press. May or may not have known that at one time. Anyways welcome look forward to hearing about your build! (edited)

Yes, I have, but I find faults in most of the designs.

Gene.N

Yes, I have, but I find faults in most of the designs.

nice! then definitely looking forward to hearing more

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Gene.N

Yes, I have, but I find faults in most of the designs.

Are you looking to make this run on 120V or something else

120, or air over hydraulic pump.

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10:15 PM

Like that

Cool we have used a few air over oil systems for production in a robotic welding environment.

Ah, Bravo, most people don't even seem to know about them

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Hi, y'all! Looking forward to learning more about open source ecology with you all.

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Welcome, Katie! Feel free to peruse old chats or ask questions. There is a lot of information on the website and the wiki that can tell you about OSE’s aims and progress on its projects. www.opensourceecology.org wiki.opensourceecology.org I’m also rather quick at finding info on either so if you need to find anything just ping me and I’ll help where I can :)

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Many thanks! I appreciate it.

You’re welcome! Currently there’s active development on the Seed Eco-Home and the D3D Pro 3D printer as well as a website migration

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ok, i read the rules and got roles, is that all I need to do?

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i guess not haha, thanks for the welcome everyone!

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i guess not haha, thanks for the welcome everyone!

Welcome! That’s all you have to do haha

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not beer

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Microplastic beer

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with precision fermentation anything is possible

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