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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-865035830597910538 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=865035830597910538><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/7ae59e77433a1eb8baae44b1e29c212a-6602D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=wesxdz data-user-id=230472437265989635>Wesxdz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, July 15, 2021 3:03 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-865035830597910538>7/15/2021 3:03 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time-based_currency">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time-based_currency</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time-based_currency><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Time-based currency</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">In economics, a time-based currency is an alternative currency or exchange system where the unit of account is the person-hour or some other time unit.
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Some time-based currencies value everyone's contributions equally: one hour equals one service credit. In these systems, one person volunteers to work for an hour for another person; thus, they a...</div></div></div></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=clap><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=👏 src=media-ose/1f44f-3D381.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-865035831350001716 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=865035831350001716><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/def5e0a7ff07e73d477a87df10a3dc4f-BFBB1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(153,45,34) title=Arcane#7800 data-user-id=437808476106784770>Arcane</span> <span class=chatlog__author-tag>BOT</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, July 15, 2021 3:03 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-865035831350001716>7/15/2021 3:03 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="wesxdz">@Wesxdz</span> has reached level <strong>7</strong>. GG!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-865234426144227358 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=865234426144227358><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/ec74cfea40554984d75748b827287c7d-253B3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(11,150,2) title=pcuci data-user-id=345521804074549249>pcuci</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, July 15, 2021 4:12 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-865234426144227358>7/15/2021 4:12 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Didn't most LETS'es die off with the advent of crypto <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="wesxdz">@Wesxdz</span> ?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-865319337015771176 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=865319337015771176><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/7ae59e77433a1eb8baae44b1e29c212a-6602D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=wesxdz data-user-id=230472437265989635>Wesxdz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, July 15, 2021 9:50 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-865319337015771176>7/15/2021 9:50 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Yeah it seems like a lot of LETS have died in the past: not necessarily replaced by crypto, but too localized to survive. I haven't explored the history and state of alternative currencies enough to really understand what's best. The number of crypto projects is a bit overwhelming</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-865325386165125170 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=865325386165125170><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/2c298b90ec031a6c231d3fe0841eff38-C0EC3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=cryptogothslowdao8302 data-user-id=756755259355037766>Paul Pham</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, July 15, 2021 10:14 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-865325386165125170>7/15/2021 10:14 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>The model I find most promising currently is a <code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--inline">decentralized autonomous organi{sm,zation}</code> aka DAO.
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With a common purpose, values, and good transparent discussion, you can track and reward contributions, let outside investors speculate on it, and coordinate large groups of people without having to manage them.
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The most successful and friendly community DAO I've found, that I participate in, is
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<a href="https://1hive.org/#/home">https://1hive.org/#/home</a>
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They propose fun things like managing a decentralized minecraft server, as well as more mundane management things.</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://1hive.org/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Honey Pot</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Honey Pot</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-865424507434565654 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=865424507434565654><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/ec74cfea40554984d75748b827287c7d-253B3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(11,150,2) title=pcuci data-user-id=345521804074549249>pcuci</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, July 16, 2021 4:48 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-865424507434565654>7/16/2021 4:48 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>These DAOs are fun governance experiments, I saw an OSE Coin attempt at some point(?)
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I think trade and bartering is orthogonal to permissive open source licencing schemes, which are abundance focused, gift economies
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WIR Bank seems to work at scale, in Switzerland, with no usury/interest; I don't see the need nowadays given crypto. Anyone can generate any tokens they want. What seems to make most sense to me is everyone minting thier own crypto currency (and use those tokens as reputation-based promissory notes)
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The problem with reputation is that it's worthless when you have none, and it's risky (for the counterparty) when you decide to sabotage yourself, and say, want to exercise your freedom to be forgotten; or someone else ruins your reputation (which you can't easily fend off against)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-865632913813667870 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=865632913813667870><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/2c298b90ec031a6c231d3fe0841eff38-C0EC3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=cryptogothslowdao8302 data-user-id=756755259355037766>Paul Pham</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, July 16, 2021 6:36 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-865632913813667870>7/16/2021 6:36 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>A similar business website that sells (A-frame) house kits, of stamped plansets approved by their own structural engineer, either for self-builders or hiring of contractors.
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<a href="https://avrameusa.com/">https://avrameusa.com/</a>
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They typically charge $150 / hour for an engineer to make the design changes, like the ones we are making in CAD right now.
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It's still a manual process, and could definitely be improved with a 3D visualization experience. There's no "Click here to buy $50k of precut house materials shipped to you". You fill out a form to start an email thread and arrange phone calls, and they have at least two dedicated salespeople who build relationships with and educate customers.
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The ones I talked to were good at their job, and I think any open hardware company would need to focus on sales / marketing equally with technology.</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href="https://avrameusa.com/author/zackpyle/"><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Zack</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://avrameusa.com/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Avrame</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Avrame USA A FLEXIBLE BUILDING SYSTEM FOR A-FRAMES PRE-CONSTRUCTION IS SIMPLE. BUILDING IS QUICK. STYLE IS CUSTOMIZABLE. Learn More Ever ask yourself, “What is so intriguing about an A-Frame?” Its classic triangular-peaked roof? Its perfect symmetry? Or simply its striking presence as it sits tall on the plot of land of your choosing?  Whatever ...</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/home-hero-E8D2F.jpg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/home-hero-E8D2F.jpg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-865725922899263488 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=865725922899263488><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/f85473df24e82818bc889e8806cd53fc-DF3BC.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=paleoracle data-user-id=573921462143025162>PaleOracle</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, July 17, 2021 12:45 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-865725922899263488>7/17/2021 12:45 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/money/agriculture/2021/07/15/2000-iowa-acres-for-bargain-price-only-good-owners-land-for-sale-coon-rapids-farming-climate-change/7962766002/">https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/money/agriculture/2021/07/15/2000-iowa-acres-for-bargain-price-only-good-owners-land-for-sale-coon-rapids-farming-climate-change/7962766002/</a></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Saturday, July 17, 2021 12:46 AM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(0,152,254,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/money/agriculture/2021/07/15/2000-iowa-acres-for-bargain-price-only-good-owners-land-for-sale-coon-rapids-farming-climate-change/7962766002/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Iowa family that once hosted Khrushchev will sell 2,000 acres, but ...</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">The eight prime parcels will carry a conservation easement that requires the purchasers to carry on soil health and anti-erosion practices</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/83e91a59-bb56-4af7-ba9d-264596531dfc-new_g-B8EAE.jpg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/83e91a59-bb56-4af7-ba9d-264596531dfc-new_g-B8EAE.jpg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=thumbsup><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=👍 src=media-ose/1f44d-27259.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-866477289566109706 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=866477289566109706><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5f2e719a9dac42a723b1b51646b8a4b4-F9D26.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=life_long_learner data-user-id=827415572111032350>Paul P.</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, July 19, 2021 2:31 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-866477289566109706>7/19/2021 2:31 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>We can list the Seed Home on Wikifactory. They have some amazing looking farming / agricultural structures, but not a house yet. It looks like the platform facilitates crowd designed open hardware products.
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<a href="https://wikifactory.com/topic/sustainable-building">https://wikifactory.com/topic/sustainable-building</a></span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-866576051722911774 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=866576051722911774><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/bfda12c56791ee8bacac0539df072826-465AA.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(237,146,238) title=hkienle data-user-id=860164694510010429>hkienle</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, July 19, 2021 9:03 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-866576051722911774>7/19/2021 9:03 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I think it's a good idea to have at least a stub there to increase reach. BTW, I don't have a problem with Wikifactory per se, but one should keep in mind that it's probably a venture capial driven thing. At some point they required people to sign up to see projects, now it seems that is gone again. Also, not all project are truly open source hardware and they seem to skirt around the issue...
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<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPeS0MD4Fx8">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPeS0MD4Fx8</a></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Monday, July 19, 2021 9:04 AM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/unknown-AF580.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/unknown-AF580.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: unknown.png (27.38 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC51YKVMVKrxEZmhgClg2tnw><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Wikifactory</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPeS0MD4Fx8"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Remaking Industry: Rapid prototyping and how to build a business</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/bPeS0MD4Fx8 width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-866740012648366090 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=866740012648366090><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/2c298b90ec031a6c231d3fe0841eff38-C0EC3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/bfda12c56791ee8bacac0539df072826-465AA.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(237,146,238) title=hkienle>hkienle</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'866576051722911774')"> I think it's a good idea to have at least a stub there to increase reach. BTW, I don't have a problem with Wikifactory per se, but one should keep in mind that it's probably a venture capial driven thing. At some point they required people to sign up to see projects, now it seems that is gone again. Also, not all project are truly open source hardware and they seem to skirt around the issue...
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<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPeS0MD4Fx8">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPeS0MD4Fx8</a> </span> <span class=chatlog__reply-edited-timestamp title="Monday, July 19, 2021 9:04 AM">(edited)</span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=cryptogothslowdao8302 data-user-id=756755259355037766>Paul Pham</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, July 19, 2021 7:55 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-866740012648366090>7/19/2021 7:55 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Sure, great caveats to bring up.
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I am more and more appreciating open hardware as a way of regulating the extractive / parasitic side of capitalism, as opposed to useful competitive markets that improve quality for everyone.
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I'm not against unlimited upside, but I'd like this upside to be applied back to the common good. It's a matter of moral judgment where to adjust this line, and how much monetary reward and gain you need to survive and feel appreciated.</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=rms><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=rms src=media-ose/269929983881773067-9AF48.png loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div><div class=chatlog__reaction title=ferris_thumbsup><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=ferris_thumbsup src=media-ose/677644907657297932-FE613.png loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-866740861387538472 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=866740861387538472><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/2c298b90ec031a6c231d3fe0841eff38-C0EC3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/ec74cfea40554984d75748b827287c7d-253B3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(11,150,2) title=pcuci>pcuci</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'865424507434565654')"> These DAOs are fun governance experiments, I saw an OSE Coin attempt at some point(?)
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I think trade and bartering is orthogonal to permissive open source licencing schemes, which are abundance focused, gift economies
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WIR Bank seems to work at scale, in Switzerland, with no usury/interest; I don't see the need nowadays given crypto. Anyone can generate any tokens they want. What seems to make most sense to me is everyone minting thier own crypto currency (and use those tokens as reputation-based promissory notes)
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The problem with reputation is that it's worthless when you have none, and it's risky (for the counterparty) when you decide to sabotage yourself, and say, want to exercise your freedom to be forgotten; or someone else ruins your reputation (which you can't easily fend off against) </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=cryptogothslowdao8302 data-user-id=756755259355037766>Paul Pham</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, July 19, 2021 7:58 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-866740861387538472>7/19/2021 7:58 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Here's my work-in-progress proposing a 3-way collaboration between two successful community DAOs: Metagame and 1hive
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Feedback and co-creation is most welcome.
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<a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MYpfB558SKkR8rsS7pC5smIBkMPjEs5pctGCieoBKT0/edit?usp=sharing">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MYpfB558SKkR8rsS7pC5smIBkMPjEs5pctGCieoBKT0/edit?usp=sharing</a>
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I did see the writing on OSE Coin and would love to discuss them at the next enterprise night if others are interested. I think Marcin's > 10 years of work on OSE is reputation enough, and each of us apprentices, writing up our experiences and publishing our youtube videos, is working towards that.
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Having a record of giving back to the world, and focusing on worthwhile goals. I see now that starting a youtube channel can be more than just a vanity. But yes, it can also be very silly.
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I'll also read more about WIR Bank, it is a weirdness that I love new kinds of banks.</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Monday, July 19, 2021 7:59 PM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MYpfB558SKkR8rsS7pC5smIBkMPjEs5pctGCieoBKT0/edit?usp=sharing"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Google Docs - create and edit documents online, for free.</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Create a new document and edit with others at the same time -- from your computer, phone or tablet. Get stuff done with or without an internet connection. Use Docs to edit Word files. Free from Google.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-866789970571689994 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=866789970571689994><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/ec74cfea40554984d75748b827287c7d-253B3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(11,150,2) title=pcuci data-user-id=345521804074549249>pcuci</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, July 19, 2021 11:13 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-866789970571689994>7/19/2021 11:13 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>"Project founders or early members will have no advantage over later
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members, except they may have the opportunity to demonstrate a longer history of service to
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the community, and therefore may use their social influence to be preferred as lenders."
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Interesting, this idea goes against the principles of fair equity proposed in <a href="https://slicingpie.com/">https://slicingpie.com/</a>
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Why not think of everyone as temporary founders?
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What happens to your assets once you exit or die? <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="cryptogothslowdao8302">@Paul Pham</span> (part of the problem of the current system is the default estate management rules, and crypto networks as "network states" would in-the-long-term exacerbate this dynamic(?))</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Monday, July 19, 2021 11:16 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-866813364104724510 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=866813364104724510><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5f2e719a9dac42a723b1b51646b8a4b4-F9D26.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/ec74cfea40554984d75748b827287c7d-253B3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(11,150,2) title=pcuci>pcuci</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'866789970571689994')"> "Project founders or early members will have no advantage over later
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members, except they may have the opportunity to demonstrate a longer history of service to
|
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the community, and therefore may use their social influence to be preferred as lenders."
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Interesting, this idea goes against the principles of fair equity proposed in <a href="https://slicingpie.com/">https://slicingpie.com/</a>
|
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Why not think of everyone as temporary founders?
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What happens to your assets once you exit or die? <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="cryptogothslowdao8302">@Paul Pham</span> (part of the problem of the current system is the default estate management rules, and crypto networks as "network states" would in-the-long-term exacerbate this dynamic(?)) </span> <span class=chatlog__reply-edited-timestamp title="Monday, July 19, 2021 11:16 PM">(edited)</span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=life_long_learner data-user-id=827415572111032350>Paul P.</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, July 20, 2021 12:46 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-866813364104724510>7/20/2021 12:46 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>You’re right, i did not speak entirely correctly. Early members who believe in the project have a chance to buy additional governance tokens from members who believe in it less, or need the cash</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-866813839075835914 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=866813839075835914><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5f2e719a9dac42a723b1b51646b8a4b4-F9D26.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/ec74cfea40554984d75748b827287c7d-253B3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(11,150,2) title=pcuci>pcuci</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'866789970571689994')"> "Project founders or early members will have no advantage over later
|
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members, except they may have the opportunity to demonstrate a longer history of service to
|
||
the community, and therefore may use their social influence to be preferred as lenders."
|
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|
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Interesting, this idea goes against the principles of fair equity proposed in <a href="https://slicingpie.com/">https://slicingpie.com/</a>
|
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|
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Why not think of everyone as temporary founders?
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What happens to your assets once you exit or die? <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="cryptogothslowdao8302">@Paul Pham</span> (part of the problem of the current system is the default estate management rules, and crypto networks as "network states" would in-the-long-term exacerbate this dynamic(?)) </span> <span class=chatlog__reply-edited-timestamp title="Monday, July 19, 2021 11:16 PM">(edited)</span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=life_long_learner data-user-id=827415572111032350>Paul P.</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, July 20, 2021 12:48 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-866813839075835914>7/20/2021 12:48 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Indeed, I’d like to treat all contributions of the same quality equally, and all members are founders for the time they are active. In both 1hive and meta game, there’s no strong sense of hierarchy, celebrity, or authority, so I doubt you’d even know you were talking to an early member.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-866814409094856755 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=866814409094856755><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5f2e719a9dac42a723b1b51646b8a4b4-F9D26.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/ec74cfea40554984d75748b827287c7d-253B3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(11,150,2) title=pcuci>pcuci</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'866789970571689994')"> "Project founders or early members will have no advantage over later
|
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members, except they may have the opportunity to demonstrate a longer history of service to
|
||
the community, and therefore may use their social influence to be preferred as lenders."
|
||
|
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Interesting, this idea goes against the principles of fair equity proposed in <a href="https://slicingpie.com/">https://slicingpie.com/</a>
|
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|
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Why not think of everyone as temporary founders?
|
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What happens to your assets once you exit or die? <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="cryptogothslowdao8302">@Paul Pham</span> (part of the problem of the current system is the default estate management rules, and crypto networks as "network states" would in-the-long-term exacerbate this dynamic(?)) </span> <span class=chatlog__reply-edited-timestamp title="Monday, July 19, 2021 11:16 PM">(edited)</span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=life_long_learner data-user-id=827415572111032350>Paul P.</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, July 20, 2021 12:50 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-866814409094856755>7/20/2021 12:50 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I know this work, I’d be interested if it aligns with concerns of actual founders. E.g. to hire or attract talented employees, we need to have a pool of tokens reserved early purely for this purpose.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-866815100564144188 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=866815100564144188><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/ec74cfea40554984d75748b827287c7d-253B3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(11,150,2) title=pcuci data-user-id=345521804074549249>pcuci</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, July 20, 2021 12:53 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-866815100564144188>7/20/2021 12:53 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Not clear what the scarce resource is that you want to tokenize? People's time?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-866815142460129300 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=866815142460129300><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5f2e719a9dac42a723b1b51646b8a4b4-F9D26.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/ec74cfea40554984d75748b827287c7d-253B3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(11,150,2) title=pcuci>pcuci</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'866789970571689994')"> "Project founders or early members will have no advantage over later
|
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members, except they may have the opportunity to demonstrate a longer history of service to
|
||
the community, and therefore may use their social influence to be preferred as lenders."
|
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|
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Interesting, this idea goes against the principles of fair equity proposed in <a href="https://slicingpie.com/">https://slicingpie.com/</a>
|
||
|
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Why not think of everyone as temporary founders?
|
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What happens to your assets once you exit or die? <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="cryptogothslowdao8302">@Paul Pham</span> (part of the problem of the current system is the default estate management rules, and crypto networks as "network states" would in-the-long-term exacerbate this dynamic(?)) </span> <span class=chatlog__reply-edited-timestamp title="Monday, July 19, 2021 11:16 PM">(edited)</span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=life_long_learner data-user-id=827415572111032350>Paul P.</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, July 20, 2021 12:53 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-866815142460129300>7/20/2021 12:53 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Crypto networks, as you call them, or ledger coordination games (I’m trying out the term <img
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src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> are designed to decentralize succession or inheritance. If I die without giving my private key to my heirs, my governance tokens become unvoteable, and we can write into the contract that tokens that are not used within one year are burned (for example) to encourage engagement</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-866815603440222248 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=866815603440222248><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5f2e719a9dac42a723b1b51646b8a4b4-F9D26.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/ec74cfea40554984d75748b827287c7d-253B3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(11,150,2) title=pcuci>pcuci</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'866815100564144188')"> Not clear what the scarce resource is that you want to tokenize? People's time? </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=life_long_learner data-user-id=827415572111032350>Paul P.</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, July 20, 2021 12:55 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-866815603440222248>7/20/2021 12:55 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I’d rather tokenize the value of providing affordable housing, which is the (scarce) benefit produced.
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People’s time and effort are indeed finite, but you can choose to spend them in unhelpful ways that don’t further the common goal.</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=thumbsup><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=👍 src=media-ose/1f44d-27259.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-866815638735683594 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=866815638735683594><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/ec74cfea40554984d75748b827287c7d-253B3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(11,150,2) title=pcuci data-user-id=345521804074549249>pcuci</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, July 20, 2021 12:55 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-866815638735683594>7/20/2021 12:55 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>In social networks we have the small-network effect that negates a lot of these equity ideals, whatever system we come up with needs to "fight" preferential attachment, systematically</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-866815710215012352 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=866815710215012352><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5f2e719a9dac42a723b1b51646b8a4b4-F9D26.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=life_long_learner data-user-id=827415572111032350>Paul P.</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, July 20, 2021 12:56 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-866815710215012352>7/20/2021 12:56 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I.e. I value outputs directly, inputs only indirectly</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=thumbsup><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=👍 src=media-ose/1f44d-27259.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-866816497791270932 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=866816497791270932><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5f2e719a9dac42a723b1b51646b8a4b4-F9D26.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/ec74cfea40554984d75748b827287c7d-253B3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(11,150,2) title=pcuci>pcuci</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'866815638735683594')"> In social networks we have the small-network effect that negates a lot of these equity ideals, whatever system we come up with needs to "fight" preferential attachment, systematically </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=life_long_learner data-user-id=827415572111032350>Paul P.</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, July 20, 2021 12:59 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-866816497791270932>7/20/2021 12:59 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Perhaps we can organize a chat night over clubhouse. I’d love to understand those effects more, and also directly observe the two DAOs I mentioned, each of which reward different kinds of participation (not outputs) and have been running for a year or more, with varying degrees of sustainability.</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=thumbsup><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=👍 src=media-ose/1f44d-27259.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-866816818219843584 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=866816818219843584><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/ec74cfea40554984d75748b827287c7d-253B3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(11,150,2) title=pcuci data-user-id=345521804074549249>pcuci</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, July 20, 2021 1:00 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-866816818219843584>7/20/2021 1:00 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preferential_attachment">https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preferential_attachment</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(234,236,240,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preferential_attachment><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Preferential attachment</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">A preferential attachment process is any of a class of processes in which some quantity, typically some form of wealth or credit, is distributed among a number of individuals or objects according to how much they already have, so that those who are already wealthy receive more than those who are not. "Preferential attachment" is only the most r...</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/Graph_with_Preferential_attachment-6E689.png> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/Graph_with_Preferential_attachment-6E689.png alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-866817057790099466 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=866817057790099466><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, July 20, 2021 1:01 AM">1:01 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="life_long_learner">@Paul P.</span> this one's fun too: <a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friendship_paradox">https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friendship_paradox</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(234,236,240,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friendship_paradox><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Friendship paradox</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">The friendship paradox is the phenomenon first observed by the sociologist Scott L. Feld in 1991 that most people have fewer friends than their friends have, on average. It can be explained as a form of sampling bias in which people with more friends are more likely to be in one's own friend group. Or, said another way, one is less likely to be ...</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-866817119198904320 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=866817119198904320><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, July 20, 2021 1:01 AM">1:01 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Basically: your friends have more friends than you do</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-866818013499621417 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=866818013499621417><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5f2e719a9dac42a723b1b51646b8a4b4-F9D26.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/ec74cfea40554984d75748b827287c7d-253B3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(11,150,2) title=pcuci>pcuci</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'866816818219843584')"> <a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preferential_attachment">https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preferential_attachment</a> </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=life_long_learner data-user-id=827415572111032350>Paul P.</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, July 20, 2021 1:05 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-866818013499621417>7/20/2021 1:05 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Interesting. If this is the rich get richer effect, with no additional input of labor, then my proposal could suffer by majority voters voting to award themselves a larger proportion of each monthly issuance. That’s why the governance is split into thirds, the tenants, social guardians and / or neighbors, and then the equity holders who earn.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-866818014451728384 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=866818014451728384><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/def5e0a7ff07e73d477a87df10a3dc4f-BFBB1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(153,45,34) title=Arcane#7800 data-user-id=437808476106784770>Arcane</span> <span class=chatlog__author-tag>BOT</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, July 20, 2021 1:05 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-866818014451728384>7/20/2021 1:05 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="life_long_learner">@Paul P.</span> has reached level <strong>3</strong>. GG!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-866818612488568832 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=866818612488568832><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5f2e719a9dac42a723b1b51646b8a4b4-F9D26.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=life_long_learner data-user-id=827415572111032350>Paul P.</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, July 20, 2021 1:07 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-866818612488568832>7/20/2021 1:07 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I do enjoy paradoxes and sampling biases!
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also, data is available to empirically draw conclusions about which of these effects actually appear at this point in time, for two large (around 150 active participants, and market cap of millions of USD via non participating investors trading ) populations</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-866818964515848213 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=866818964515848213><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, July 20, 2021 1:09 AM">1:09 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>If you’re interested in DAOs or curious how active they are and the assets they manage, you might like <a href="https://DeepDAO.io">https://DeepDAO.io</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://deepdao.io/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Deep DAO - Insights for a Decentralized World</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">dao analytics insights for a decentralized world</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-866820526609399858 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=866820526609399858><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/ec74cfea40554984d75748b827287c7d-253B3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(11,150,2) title=pcuci data-user-id=345521804074549249>pcuci</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, July 20, 2021 1:15 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-866820526609399858>7/20/2021 1:15 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>There is also a mention of skills quantifying - how did you plan to quantify that into the system?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-866848998039486474 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=866848998039486474><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5f2e719a9dac42a723b1b51646b8a4b4-F9D26.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/ec74cfea40554984d75748b827287c7d-253B3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(11,150,2) title=pcuci>pcuci</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'866820526609399858')"> There is also a mention of skills quantifying - how did you plan to quantify that into the system? </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=life_long_learner data-user-id=827415572111032350>Paul P.</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, July 20, 2021 3:08 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-866848998039486474>7/20/2021 3:08 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>That part was less thought out and could use some work. It may not be necessary, but the use case was, often we need contractors like plumbers, and we would want to incent positive relationships, high quality work, and a generous price to contractors</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-866867428922884099 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=866867428922884099><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/ec74cfea40554984d75748b827287c7d-253B3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/5f2e719a9dac42a723b1b51646b8a4b4-F9D26.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=life_long_learner>Paul P.</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'866848998039486474')"> That part was less thought out and could use some work. It may not be necessary, but the use case was, often we need contractors like plumbers, and we would want to incent positive relationships, high quality work, and a generous price to contractors </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(11,150,2) title=pcuci data-user-id=345521804074549249>pcuci</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, July 20, 2021 4:21 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-866867428922884099>7/20/2021 4:21 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>the neat thing about a DLTs is that they can track any such activity for later auditing, and build a reputation for contributors (even when no money exchanges hands; all we'd need is a few witnesses to sign that "person A did X", and put that on the chain)
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how about a "linkedin references"-like system, where people peer-compare two other people based on a skill they know
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say I know about "painting doors" (the skill can be anything), then I can choose 2 people I know in the network to rank-compare them on that skill "I stamp on the blockchain that person A is objectively better at skill X than person B"
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1000 rankings later, you get a network of excellence across many different desirable skills
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first benefit, is full labour market transparency, imagine knowing the capacity of every person you'd want to hire, you can now say: "I want to hire a top 10% skilled at X person", and of course, they would commend a better price than someone at "top 20%"
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(to address privacy concerns, you may be limited to only friends of friends, and have a limit of 150 friends; I know I don't want the world to know all my skills, just some, and only contextually)
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if you're familiar with Page Rank, something like that, this algorithm would be similar</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Tuesday, July 20, 2021 5:27 AM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-866867520337215568 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=866867520337215568><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, July 20, 2021 4:22 AM">4:22 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="life_long_learner">@Paul P.</span> did you want on- or off-chain governance designed into this system?</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Tuesday, July 20, 2021 5:30 AM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-867194109675438080 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867194109675438080><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a67349d5204fa45d8d75ef87bae8aef7-C25C9.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=osrsupport6829 data-user-id=788915694997209123>-- osr-support --</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, July 21, 2021 1:59 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-867194109675438080>7/21/2021 1:59 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I am looking since longer closer at WikiFactory; yep it's screwed - I remember that they got a 6 digit figure cash influx and it's far from seeing any fruits anywhere - seems to be another sad example where $$ ruins some great project; however - it's still a great platform one should consider to publish, beside of instructables.com or Hackaday.
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As for running an OS HW business, you may need to go really nuts and be a real ninja - there are too many obstacles thrown between your legs - even with a 25 years track record - it's insane difficult (but becoming good at it <img
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Ash on my head but PreciousPlastic was a disaster (but good to learn from) and OSE seems to have a long way to go gaining momentum but also put the needed $$ outlets in the right places ...
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Just saying - whatever you look at, to be strict about OpenSource, you need some serious back wind and even though, you're still up to seasonal or whatever moods</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-867581012980269057 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867581012980269057><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5f2e719a9dac42a723b1b51646b8a4b4-F9D26.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/a67349d5204fa45d8d75ef87bae8aef7-C25C9.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=osrsupport6829>-- osr-support --</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'867194109675438080')"> I am looking since longer closer at WikiFactory; yep it's screwed - I remember that they got a 6 digit figure cash influx and it's far from seeing any fruits anywhere - seems to be another sad example where $$ ruins some great project; however - it's still a great platform one should consider to publish, beside of instructables.com or Hackaday.
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Ash on my head but PreciousPlastic was a disaster (but good to learn from) and OSE seems to have a long way to go gaining momentum but also put the needed $$ outlets in the right places ...
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Just saying - whatever you look at, to be strict about OpenSource, you need some serious back wind and even though, you're still up to seasonal or whatever moods </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=life_long_learner data-user-id=827415572111032350>Paul P.</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 3:37 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-867581012980269057>7/22/2021 3:37 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Someone from a different discord recommended preciousplastic to me. I’d be interested in a post Mortem or your own opinion some time about what went wrong there. Or is still going wrong <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-867779259615543346 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867779259615543346><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/7ae59e77433a1eb8baae44b1e29c212a-6602D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=wesxdz data-user-id=230472437265989635>Wesxdz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 4:44 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-867779259615543346>7/22/2021 4:44 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/anonymous-antitechnology-0">https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/anonymous-antitechnology-0</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/anonymous-antitechnology-0><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Antitechnology #0</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Anonymous Antitechnology #0 2009 Text version of the fanzine Antitechnology #0</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/opengraph-E4DD5.png> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/opengraph-E4DD5.png alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-867779300487725098 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867779300487725098><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 4:45 PM">4:45 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Division_of_labour">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Division_of_labour</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Division_of_labour><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Division of labour</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">The division of labour is the separation of tasks in any economic system or organisation so that participants may specialise (specialisation). Individuals, organisations, and nations are endowed with or acquire specialised capabilities and either form combinations or trade to take advantage of the capabilities of others in addition to their own....</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/1200px-Defrance%252C_Visiting_a_nail_facto-C07A8.jpg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/1200px-Defrance%252C_Visiting_a_nail_facto-C07A8.jpg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-867779355886223380 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867779355886223380><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 4:45 PM">4:45 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Perhaps liberation technology is a viable path?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-867779521256357918 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867779521256357918><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/7ae59e77433a1eb8baae44b1e29c212a-6602D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/7ae59e77433a1eb8baae44b1e29c212a-6602D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=wesxdz>Wesxdz</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'867779300487725098')"> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Division_of_labour">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Division_of_labour</a> </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=wesxdz data-user-id=230472437265989635>Wesxdz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 4:46 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-867779521256357918>7/22/2021 4:46 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I'm trying to figure out to what extent specialization is necessary</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-867779836067708948 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867779836067708948><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 4:47 PM">4:47 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Seems like a tradeoff between economic well-being and other forms of well-being, as I've found specialization to be boring/dehumanizing personally</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-867780077466812416 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867780077466812416><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 4:48 PM">4:48 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/unknown-A9415.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/unknown-A9415.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: unknown.png (913.5 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-867780111897329665 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867780111897329665><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/7ae59e77433a1eb8baae44b1e29c212a-6602D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/7ae59e77433a1eb8baae44b1e29c212a-6602D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=wesxdz>Wesxdz</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'867780077466812416')"> <em>Click to see attachment</em> <span>🖼️</span> </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=wesxdz data-user-id=230472437265989635>Wesxdz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 4:48 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-867780111897329665>7/22/2021 4:48 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>from <a href="https://modelviewculture.com/pieces/tripping-over-our-bootstraps-open-source-ecology-and-the-promise-of-liberational-technology">https://modelviewculture.com/pieces/tripping-over-our-bootstraps-open-source-ecology-and-the-promise-of-liberational-technology</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://modelviewculture.com/pieces/author/4lpkol9><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Model View Culture</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://modelviewculture.com/pieces/tripping-over-our-bootstraps-open-source-ecology-and-the-promise-of-liberational-technology><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Tripping Over Our Bootstraps: Open Source Ecology and the Promise o...</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Configuring tools as a mode of straightforward escape from oppression, be it poverty or unfulfilling work, risks ignoring existing material practices and organizations that hold us to systems of inequity.</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/pasek_lifetrac-0BEFE.jpg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/pasek_lifetrac-0BEFE.jpg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-867819605615706152 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867819605615706152><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/7ae59e77433a1eb8baae44b1e29c212a-6602D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=wesxdz>Wesxdz</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'867779521256357918')"> I'm trying to figure out to what extent specialization is necessary </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 7:25 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-867819605615706152>7/22/2021 7:25 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I think it depends, for most "day to day" things it isn't valid, and much is spend supporting giant beurocracies (companies that send makerspace scale capable products on 15 container ship trips from sweatshop to sweatshop "life of a t-shirt" and whatnot)
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Where i think it <strong>IS</strong> valid is in areas that require a pile of study/certification such as Medicine, High Tier Academics, Calculation Heavy / Cutting Edge Engineering, etc</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-867819918673575987 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867819918673575987><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 7:26 PM">7:26 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Like there are people who spend there entire life designing the perfect turbofan compressor blade geometry, and i think that will persist as a societal need / desire of people (i'm not into Pure mathematics, but some people love it to bits!)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-867820117232844830 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867820117232844830><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 7:27 PM">7:27 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><em>granted awefully centrist of me</em> but i think a balance/critical reconsideration of / vetting of social hierarchy is the solution i guess?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-867821185247739914 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867821185247739914><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/7ae59e77433a1eb8baae44b1e29c212a-6602D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=wesxdz>Wesxdz</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'867780111897329665')"> from <a href="https://modelviewculture.com/pieces/tripping-over-our-bootstraps-open-source-ecology-and-the-promise-of-liberational-technology">https://modelviewculture.com/pieces/tripping-over-our-bootstraps-open-source-ecology-and-the-promise-of-liberational-technology</a> </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 7:31 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-867821185247739914>7/22/2021 7:31 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>seems like a valid criticism</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-867821481185509376 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867821481185509376><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 7:32 PM">7:32 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>"This suggests that collective control over infrastructure is equally as important, if not more so, than access to tools."
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(o p e n s o u r c e i n f a s t r u c t u r e t i m e)</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 7:32 PM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=nut_and_bolt><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=🔩 src=media-ose/1f529-0301D.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-867821762829221888 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867821762829221888><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 7:33 PM">7:33 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>granted rural vs urban ease of self sufficiency energy/water wise is odd (roof area vs people below it, for raimwater/solar thermal water + photovoltaic electrity)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-867822340280418344 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867822340280418344><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 7:36 PM">7:36 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I think largely though the issues outlined are:
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<ul><li>Volunteer Developer Shortages (Especially post-hype dying out, but also the nature of the concept (but other projects cast doubt on their skepticism of it, moreso a numbers game imo)</li></ul><ul><li>Usage of existing infastructure due to non-full self sufficiency (solved by more digifab/food stuff, but also "no ethical consumption under capitalism" and whatnot)</li></ul><ul><li>Community Outreach Needs</li></ul></span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-867825870634483742 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867825870634483742><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/7ae59e77433a1eb8baae44b1e29c212a-6602D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze>Eric Lotze</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'867819605615706152')"> I think it depends, for most "day to day" things it isn't valid, and much is spend supporting giant beurocracies (companies that send makerspace scale capable products on 15 container ship trips from sweatshop to sweatshop "life of a t-shirt" and whatnot)
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Where i think it <strong>IS</strong> valid is in areas that require a pile of study/certification such as Medicine, High Tier Academics, Calculation Heavy / Cutting Edge Engineering, etc </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=wesxdz data-user-id=230472437265989635>Wesxdz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 7:50 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-867825870634483742>7/22/2021 7:50 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Arguably <em>anything</em> can be an area that requires high arounts of study.</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 7:50 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-867826748246458368 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867826748246458368><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 7:53 PM">7:53 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I'm starting to be concerned that open source hardware manufacture and research is limited due to high time costs from its DIY distributed nature. Ultimately if something is not 100% locally manufacturable at the press of a button almost all people will prefer the option which saves them time: ie buying a product from Amazon produced in a centralized factory in China.</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 7:54 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-867827031005986826 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867827031005986826><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 7:54 PM">7:54 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>For example, building the openflexure microscope, most of the parts are delivered from China. Things like objectives, screws, stepper motors are not easily created locally</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-867850041842335766 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867850041842335766><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/7ae59e77433a1eb8baae44b1e29c212a-6602D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=wesxdz>Wesxdz</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'867827031005986826')"> For example, building the openflexure microscope, most of the parts are delivered from China. Things like objectives, screws, stepper motors are not easily created locally </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 9:26 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-867850041842335766>7/22/2021 9:26 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Lenses i agree to a certain extent, but screws could be made by a (cnc automated) lathe (i don't know if small ones are made by another method for making many, such as investment casting maybe?), and stepper motors / motors in general can be made using coil/core winding machines and some quick assembly</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-867850102025224234 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867850102025224234><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 9:26 PM">9:26 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><strong>Granted</strong> on cost i agree 100%</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-867851561106276352 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867851561106276352><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 9:32 PM">9:32 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>but also i think the goal is less "make people not buy screws on amazon", but moreso "make ultimaker FDM printers (and similar "apple price" style marketing of hardware), obsolete/much cheaper, inspire innovation/modification of various tech by Open Sourcing it, and use the transparency/decentralization to make corruption/excessive bureaucracy very hard to exist</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-867851747413196890 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867851747413196890><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 9:33 PM">9:33 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://www.dynamism.com/ultimaker.html?position=&keyword=ultimaker&device=c&network=g&matchtype=e&campaignid=11335589227&adgroupid=113821939609&gclid=CjwKCAjwruSHBhAtEiwA_qCppi520cXwmplMgF27A1mCRsQqI9BUJR0ZNEjSaMLv5--tOn0eFry5zxoCfQIQAvD_BwE">https://www.dynamism.com/ultimaker.html?position=&keyword=ultimaker&device=c&network=g&matchtype=e&campaignid=11335589227&adgroupid=113821939609&gclid=CjwKCAjwruSHBhAtEiwA_qCppi520cXwmplMgF27A1mCRsQqI9BUJR0ZNEjSaMLv5--tOn0eFry5zxoCfQIQAvD_BwE</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.dynamism.com/ultimaker.html?position=&keyword=ultimaker&device=c&network=g&matchtype=e&campaignid=11335589227&adgroupid=113821939609&gclid=CjwKCAjwruSHBhAtEiwA_qCppi520cXwmplMgF27A1mCRsQqI9BUJR0ZNEjSaMLv5--tOn0eFry5zxoCfQIQAvD_BwE"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Ultimaker 3D Printers & Filaments | Dynamism | Dynamism</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Premium end-to-end 3D printing solutions, get your hardware, materials, and software from Ultimaker's #1 North American reseller.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-867852024510021632 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867852024510021632><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 9:34 PM">9:34 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Like people pay 2,000 USD+ for a mostly standard Cartesian printer, BEFORE accessories (and often proprietary parts, or even filament in some cases (makerbot i think, my data may be outdated) )</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-867852296582856704 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867852296582856704><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 9:35 PM">9:35 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>when that could buy ~2 Genuine Prusa Printers (+/- some money for enclosure etc), a PILE of ender 3's (not reccomended due to upgrades), or a VORON etc</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-867853296445685770 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867853296445685770><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/bfda12c56791ee8bacac0539df072826-465AA.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(237,146,238) title=hkienle data-user-id=860164694510010429>hkienle</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 9:39 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-867853296445685770>7/22/2021 9:39 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>You can go one step further back and say: what about the raw material? This a wonderful art project, I think.
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<a href="https://www.ted.com/talks/thomas_thwaites_how_i_built_a_toaster_from_scratch">https://www.ted.com/talks/thomas_thwaites_how_i_built_a_toaster_from_scratch</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(230,43,30,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.ted.com/speakers/thomas_thwaites><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Thomas Thwaites</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.ted.com/talks/thomas_thwaites_how_i_built_a_toaster_from_scratch><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">How I built a toaster -- from scratch</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">It takes an entire civilization to build a toaster. Designer Thomas Thwaites found out the hard way, by attempting to build one from scratch: mining ore for steel, deriving plastic from oil ... it's frankly amazing he got as far as he got. A parable of our interconnected society, for designers and consumers alike.</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/c0dad5978acf311af98891b7686da155b4faa744_8-DE5CD.jpg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/c0dad5978acf311af98891b7686da155b4faa744_8-DE5CD.jpg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-867853352842559518 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867853352842559518><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 9:39 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-867853352842559518>7/22/2021 9:39 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><strong>The donation/volunteering crituqe the article made is probably the most important/valid IMO</strong></span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-867853477413388338 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867853477413388338><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/bfda12c56791ee8bacac0539df072826-465AA.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(237,146,238) title=hkienle>hkienle</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'867853296445685770')"> You can go one step further back and say: what about the raw material? This a wonderful art project, I think.
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<a href="https://www.ted.com/talks/thomas_thwaites_how_i_built_a_toaster_from_scratch">https://www.ted.com/talks/thomas_thwaites_how_i_built_a_toaster_from_scratch</a> </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 9:39 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-867853477413388338>7/22/2021 9:39 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I think it depends on the material, and this has been churning in my brain with no real "solution" honestly</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-867853565631791106 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867853565631791106><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 9:40 PM">9:40 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I think some things can be made small scale, but many will still need to be centralized</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-867853672024899654 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867853672024899654><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 9:40 PM">9:40 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I made some obscenely long title page on all this, let me grab it (also i need to watch that link you posted)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-867854492719513660 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867854492719513660><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 9:43 PM">9:43 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><strong>and again, high-carbon, low human rights capitalism is the world we live in and won't be changed in a day, so focusing on small, measurable goals is the way to go, not 0-100</strong>
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I guess for example going "waste free"etc vs Organizing/Volunteering/Donating Money to Political Action for the same issues (in the plastic waste example, maybe taxes/subsidies for new/recycled plastics + non-fossil fuel ones, and bans on single use bags etc)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-867854877090906132 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867854877090906132><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/bfda12c56791ee8bacac0539df072826-465AA.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(237,146,238) title=hkienle>hkienle</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'867853296445685770')"> You can go one step further back and say: what about the raw material? This a wonderful art project, I think.
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<a href="https://www.ted.com/talks/thomas_thwaites_how_i_built_a_toaster_from_scratch">https://www.ted.com/talks/thomas_thwaites_how_i_built_a_toaster_from_scratch</a> </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 9:45 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-867854877090906132>7/22/2021 9:45 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>1:10 "But he didn't have wikipedia" THIS</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-867855069809999892 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867855069809999892><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 9:46 PM">9:46 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>(and internet in general ( <em>actual sources</em> and whatnot), and OSE / other similar OSHW groups !)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-867856371084820492 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867856371084820492><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 9:51 PM">9:51 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>9:00 early Homo sapiens named "Grug" makes plastic compression molding machine c2010</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 9:51 PM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=thumbsup><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=👍 src=media-ose/1f44d-27259.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-867859022408187936 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867859022408187936><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 10:01 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-867859022408187936>7/22/2021 10:01 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I need to grab the dates, but i guess that TED talk predates the youtube channels
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Primitive Technology: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAL3JXZSzSm8AlZyD3nQdBA">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAL3JXZSzSm8AlZyD3nQdBA</a>
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How to Make Everything: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfIqCzQJXvYj9ssCoHq327g">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfIqCzQJXvYj9ssCoHq327g</a></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-867859169998667796 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867859169998667796><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 10:02 PM">10:02 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><strong>I guess how they said in your link <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="hkienle">@hkienle</span> 2/3 of these are very low tech methods!</strong></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-867859847801733151 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867859847801733151><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 10:05 PM">10:05 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I don't know i'm kind of echo chambering/ranting too long, so i'll go get to some work lol</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-867912949950476318 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867912949950476318><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/2c298b90ec031a6c231d3fe0841eff38-C0EC3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze>Eric Lotze</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'867821481185509376')"> "This suggests that collective control over infrastructure is equally as important, if not more so, than access to tools."
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(o p e n s o u r c e i n f a s t r u c t u r e t i m e) </span> <span class=chatlog__reply-edited-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 7:32 PM">(edited)</span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=cryptogothslowdao8302 data-user-id=756755259355037766>Paul Pham</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, July 23, 2021 1:36 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-867912949950476318>7/23/2021 1:36 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I'm definitely interested in collective control over physical infrastructure, housing, land, <em>and</em> tools. By definition, the collective also has control over its own focus, direction, and emotional labor. I don't really see strong distinctions between the importance of each of these.
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There have been great works by Elinor Ostrom, a Nobel laureate political economist who is a pioneer in the field of cooperative economics, in her work "Governing the Commons" where she studies 8 different cooperatives, some existing sustainably for 200 years or more, managing common pool resources like irrigation canals in spain, fishing waters in Japan, etc., all without a central authority or government. They determine their own bureaucracy, and have their own system of enforcement and punishment. If you're interested in solving for "tragedy of the commons" or wondering if humans can ever coordinate without a profit motive, it's one answer with historical proofs. Although I like to think that joy and ecstasy represent other dimensions besides survival versus late-stage capitalist monopolies.
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<a href="https://beyondintractability.org/bksum/ostrom-governing">https://beyondintractability.org/bksum/ostrom-governing</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=thumbsup><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=👍 src=media-ose/1f44d-27259.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>3</span></div><div class=chatlog__reaction title=smiley><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=😃 src=media-ose/1f603-5E531.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-867912955306582017 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867912955306582017><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, July 23, 2021 1:36 AM">1:36 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Whether we can use these insights to socially engineer our own communities.... eh.
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In my experience, collective control is a slow process requiring decades of relationship building and allowing, and not much technological intervention is useful. It usually requires participants be equals from the beginning, or have no strong disadvantage to newcomers, as long as all are tied to equitable and mutual benefit. Think, credit unions and your local organic food coop. All of my attempts to create a collective from scratch and present it as a Great Salvation to people have been met with indifference, perplexity, or attempts to fit it into existing mental models of private property and value extraction. Rather than gin up these great designs which make us feel important, I would recommend we find success by just muddling through little by little every day, and try to go to sleep and wake up happy with how we spend our time on this earth and relate to one another.
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However, I'm still going to try this DAO thing. It just needs a few decades more of testing and proving, but there are a few who haven't died yet <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-867916144705695744 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867916144705695744><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/ec74cfea40554984d75748b827287c7d-253B3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/2c298b90ec031a6c231d3fe0841eff38-C0EC3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=cryptogothslowdao8302>Paul Pham</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'867912949950476318')"> I'm definitely interested in collective control over physical infrastructure, housing, land, <em>and</em> tools. By definition, the collective also has control over its own focus, direction, and emotional labor. I don't really see strong distinctions between the importance of each of these.
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There have been great works by Elinor Ostrom, a Nobel laureate political economist who is a pioneer in the field of cooperative economics, in her work "Governing the Commons" where she studies 8 different cooperatives, some existing sustainably for 200 years or more, managing common pool resources like irrigation canals in spain, fishing waters in Japan, etc., all without a central authority or government. They determine their own bureaucracy, and have their own system of enforcement and punishment. If you're interested in solving for "tragedy of the commons" or wondering if humans can ever coordinate without a profit motive, it's one answer with historical proofs. Although I like to think that joy and ecstasy represent other dimensions besides survival versus late-stage capitalist monopolies.
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<a href="https://beyondintractability.org/bksum/ostrom-governing">https://beyondintractability.org/bksum/ostrom-governing</a> </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(11,150,2) title=pcuci data-user-id=345521804074549249>pcuci</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, July 23, 2021 1:48 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-867916144705695744>7/23/2021 1:48 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I think she's got a theory of what to look for in successful cooperation, but to my understanding no path to get there</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-867916169573699614 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867916169573699614><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, July 23, 2021 1:48 AM">1:48 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://thisviewoflife.com/elinors-classroom-developing-a-connected-concept-of-the-commons-for-21st-century-civic-education/">https://thisviewoflife.com/elinors-classroom-developing-a-connected-concept-of-the-commons-for-21st-century-civic-education/</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href="https://thisviewoflife.com/author/ericm/"><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Eric Johnson</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://thisviewoflife.com/elinors-classroom-developing-a-connected-concept-of-the-commons-for-21st-century-civic-education/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Elinor’s Classroom: Developing a Connected Concept of the Commons f...</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">A new culture of interdisciplinary teaching is emerging in regards to the cultural evolution of school communities as agents of change through social learning.</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/education-3189934_1280-49CC9.jpg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/education-3189934_1280-49CC9.jpg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-867916697305223189 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867916697305223189><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, July 23, 2021 1:51 AM">1:51 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/43319562-prosocial">https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/43319562-prosocial</a> building up on Elinor's CDPs</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/43319562-prosocial><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Prosocial</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">A groundbreaking, comprehensive program for designing effective and socially equitable groups of all sizes—from businesses and social jus...</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/43319562._UY630_SR1200%2C630_-C2AE8.jpg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/43319562._UY630_SR1200%2C630_-C2AE8.jpg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-867919262814199809 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867919262814199809><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/2c298b90ec031a6c231d3fe0841eff38-C0EC3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/ec74cfea40554984d75748b827287c7d-253B3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(11,150,2) title=pcuci>pcuci</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'867916144705695744')"> I think she's got a theory of what to look for in successful cooperation, but to my understanding no path to get there </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=cryptogothslowdao8302 data-user-id=756755259355037766>Paul Pham</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, July 23, 2021 2:01 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-867919262814199809>7/23/2021 2:01 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>well, she has to leave some work and nobel prizes for the rest of us.</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=rofl><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=🤣 src=media-ose/1f923-5854E.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-868242816768311326 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=868242816768311326><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/ec74cfea40554984d75748b827287c7d-253B3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/2c298b90ec031a6c231d3fe0841eff38-C0EC3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=cryptogothslowdao8302>Paul Pham</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'867919262814199809')"> well, she has to leave some work and nobel prizes for the rest of us. </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(11,150,2) title=pcuci data-user-id=345521804074549249>pcuci</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, July 23, 2021 11:26 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-868242816768311326>7/23/2021 11:26 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>If we were to rank 1-to-10 OSE's CDPs, as per Elinor's theories, what would surprise you <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="cryptogothslowdao8302">@Paul Pham</span> ?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-868256210632200232 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=868256210632200232><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a67349d5204fa45d8d75ef87bae8aef7-C25C9.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/5f2e719a9dac42a723b1b51646b8a4b4-F9D26.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=life_long_learner>Paul P.</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'867581012980269057')"> Someone from a different discord recommended preciousplastic to me. I’d be interested in a post Mortem or your own opinion some time about what went wrong there. Or is still going wrong <img
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There's too much of it actually to be written here on Discord but there is some 'review' about coming up - also to leave all the trespassers and bouncers something upfront <img
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If you want to just toy around, Precious Plastic can be ok for some entry level experience - still at big figures and yet often disappointing; If it's about business, please repeat for your self for a few times "I want to be in the plastic recycling business" then it's a whole different story and the general consensus is : if you don't have a ties with the industry and/or a sh** load of cash, consider this a hobby <img
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There are however some paths one can go
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1. you produce a product from recycled plastic - ... I can count the success stories on one hand - and it's all outside of PreciousPlastic
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2. you produce machines - also that goes best ignoring Precious Plastic plans and especially their new free-loader blackmailing covered up as 'community plans' (<a href="https://onearmy.github.io/academy/guides/community-program">https://onearmy.github.io/academy/guides/community-program</a> - sick maniacs if you'd ask us ...) ; with whopping 200k you can get somewhere - and yet not exactly healthy business
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4. you're in research & development, I know enjoy this since a while most but also there, equipment and bills get bigger and bigger ...
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Plastic recycling isn't exactly known for making money after all - quite the contrary - there is a reason the industry refuses it, on scale - it's just extremely expensive and not exactly a thing one wants to do 8 hours long ...</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Saturday, July 24, 2021 12:22 AM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-868256828302176317 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=868256828302176317><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, July 24, 2021 12:22 AM">12:22 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>For what it worth, it can go alright if you're already own a business & infrastructure and incorporate plastic and some of the merely acceptable material developments ...</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-868258254298435594 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=868258254298435594><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, July 24, 2021 12:28 AM">12:28 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>In short, it could be a lot more healthy for you to join 'The Fellatio Truth Movement' (<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDgHO15Bb58)">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDgHO15Bb58)</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-716wgP94vhil91RVJwaIQ><div class=chatlog__embed-author>JonLajoie</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDgHO15Bb58"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">The Fellatio Truth Movement (Jon Lajoie)</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/QDgHO15Bb58 width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=rofl><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=🤣 src=media-ose/1f923-5854E.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-868265614056230982 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=868265614056230982><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a67349d5204fa45d8d75ef87bae8aef7-C25C9.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=osrsupport6829 data-user-id=788915694997209123>-- osr-support --</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, July 24, 2021 12:57 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-868265614056230982>7/24/2021 12:57 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>There is also a perfect summary : <a href="https://www.ribbonfarm.com/2009/10/07/the-gervais-principle-or-the-office-according-to-the-office/">https://www.ribbonfarm.com/2009/10/07/the-gervais-principle-or-the-office-according-to-the-office/</a> - doesn't just apply for Precious Plastic but also 'organizations' in general - leaving the 'project' to the classic 'internal success' first paradigm ; Looks a little tedious to read but I promise you, it's worth every second to read.</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href="https://www.ribbonfarm.com/author/admin/"><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Venkatesh Rao</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.ribbonfarm.com/2009/10/07/the-gervais-principle-or-the-office-according-to-the-office/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">The Gervais Principle, Or The Office According to “The Office”</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">My neighbor introduced me to The Office back in 2005. Since then, I’ve watched every episode of both the British and American versions. I’ve watched the show obsessively because I&#8217…</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/compLifeCycle-51CAC.JPG> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/compLifeCycle-51CAC.JPG alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-869018843958353990 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=869018843958353990><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, July 26, 2021 2:50 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-869018843958353990>7/26/2021 2:50 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Business model: Pool all efforts into self-replicating machines and accessing raw materials. Make it all open hardware.
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Build more self replicating machines.
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<s>Release upon world, watch industry collapse and individuals self-sustain.</s>
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Ok wait build a REALLY nice resource distribution method globally, and transparent indicator of <em>how many resources we actually have left</em> and disallow crossing a threshold without regenerating or acquiring space-bound materials to refill.
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Then release upon world.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-869018993837604974 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=869018993837604974><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, July 26, 2021 2:51 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-869018993837604974>7/26/2021 2:51 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>g r e y g o o</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-869044466240081951 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=869044466240081951><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/ec74cfea40554984d75748b827287c7d-253B3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall>Nohbdy Ahtall</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'869018843958353990')"> Business model: Pool all efforts into self-replicating machines and accessing raw materials. Make it all open hardware.
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Build more self replicating machines.
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<s>Release upon world, watch industry collapse and individuals self-sustain.</s>
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Ok wait build a REALLY nice resource distribution method globally, and transparent indicator of <em>how many resources we actually have left</em> and disallow crossing a threshold without regenerating or acquiring space-bound materials to refill.
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Then release upon world. </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(11,150,2) title=pcuci data-user-id=345521804074549249>pcuci</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, July 26, 2021 4:32 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-869044466240081951>7/26/2021 4:32 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Let's not confuse the size of the problem with the size of the market...</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-869044764866146334 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=869044764866146334><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, July 26, 2021 4:33 AM">4:33 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>You're using a similar argument to "prediabetic people, which are 1/3 of westerners, should eat healthy", but very few do, so the market is very small...</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Monday, July 26, 2021 4:33 AM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-869045434889416794 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=869045434889416794><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/ec74cfea40554984d75748b827287c7d-253B3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall>Nohbdy Ahtall</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'869018843958353990')"> Business model: Pool all efforts into self-replicating machines and accessing raw materials. Make it all open hardware.
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Build more self replicating machines.
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<s>Release upon world, watch industry collapse and individuals self-sustain.</s>
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Ok wait build a REALLY nice resource distribution method globally, and transparent indicator of <em>how many resources we actually have left</em> and disallow crossing a threshold without regenerating or acquiring space-bound materials to refill.
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Then release upon world. </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(11,150,2) title=pcuci data-user-id=345521804074549249>pcuci</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, July 26, 2021 4:36 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-869045434889416794>7/26/2021 4:36 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://www.netflix.com/fr/title/81336476?s=a&trkid=13747225&t=cp&vlang=fr&clip=81441699">https://www.netflix.com/fr/title/81336476?s=a&trkid=13747225&t=cp&vlang=fr&clip=81441699</a>
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Unfinished work, still active research
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It's probably better to assume the numbers are worse than whatever we think we agree they are and act defensibly(?)</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Monday, July 26, 2021 4:36 AM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.netflix.com/fr/title/81336476?s=a&trkid=13747225&t=cp&vlang=fr&clip=81441699"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Breaking Boundaries: The Science Of Our Planet | Netflix Official Site</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">David Attenborough and scientist Johan Rockström examine Earth's biodiversity collapse and how this crisis can still be averted.</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/AAAABa_KunUXzX1NA3rfRvMANpmuzflPhj7u2z_G0C-0A0FD.jpg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/AAAABa_KunUXzX1NA3rfRvMANpmuzflPhj7u2z_G0C-0A0FD.jpg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-870728249699876965 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=870728249699876965><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/2c298b90ec031a6c231d3fe0841eff38-C0EC3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=cryptogothslowdao8302 data-user-id=756755259355037766>Paul Pham</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, July 30, 2021 8:03 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-870728249699876965>7/30/2021 8:03 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Another similar business website that offers eco-building services and learning materials
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<a href="https://pangeabuilders.com/">https://pangeabuilders.com/</a>
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They offer building an earthship and may collaborate with Michael Reynolds, the earthship founder. I just emailed them to see if they would be interested in collaborating with OSE on the Seed Eco-Home, will report back what they say.</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/cold-climate-passive-house-FBE83.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/cold-climate-passive-house-FBE83.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: cold-climate-passive-house.png (593.03 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href="https://pangeabuilders.com/author/pangea/"><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Pangea Builders</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://pangeabuilders.com/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Green Construction Off-Grid Systems | Pangea Builders</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Master Sustainable Builders. We Build Inspiring Residential and Commercial Spaces. Specialists in Modern Off-Grid Design, Systems and Construction.</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/Pangea-Builders-logo2-BD2DD.jpg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/Pangea-Builders-logo2-BD2DD.jpg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-870736032532922418 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=870736032532922418><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/ec74cfea40554984d75748b827287c7d-253B3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/2c298b90ec031a6c231d3fe0841eff38-C0EC3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=cryptogothslowdao8302>Paul Pham</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'870728249699876965')"> Another similar business website that offers eco-building services and learning materials
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<a href="https://pangeabuilders.com/">https://pangeabuilders.com/</a>
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They offer building an earthship and may collaborate with Michael Reynolds, the earthship founder. I just emailed them to see if they would be interested in collaborating with OSE on the Seed Eco-Home, will report back what they say. </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(11,150,2) title=pcuci data-user-id=345521804074549249>pcuci</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, July 30, 2021 8:34 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-870736032532922418>7/30/2021 8:34 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>The extra basement seems like a lot of additional work (?)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-870747714596524042 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=870747714596524042><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/2c298b90ec031a6c231d3fe0841eff38-C0EC3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=cryptogothslowdao8302 data-user-id=756755259355037766>Paul Pham</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, July 30, 2021 9:20 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-870747714596524042>7/30/2021 9:20 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>The extra basement is key, that's where the geothermal temperature stabilization (climate battery) comes from.
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In Detroit, all houses have them, as additional storage. It's a huge boon, but I agree, more digging work.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-870758487817347162 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=870758487817347162><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/ec74cfea40554984d75748b827287c7d-253B3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(11,150,2) title=pcuci data-user-id=345521804074549249>pcuci</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, July 30, 2021 10:03 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-870758487817347162>7/30/2021 10:03 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I like the open design, I wonder if there is an indoor vertical farm opportunity on the top floor, the attick space doesn't seem really used, and it should get pretty hot up there</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=green_heart><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=💚 src=media-ose/1f49a-E8B01.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-870882960105168926 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=870882960105168926><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, July 31, 2021 6:17 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-870882960105168926>7/31/2021 6:17 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I was watching something a while back on Persia/Iran and how they had/have "Windcatchers", and the underground basement level aqueducts and made this really neat passive cooling/ventilating (+ evaporative cooling!) system with it all, not <em>too</em> relevant for the channel, but really neat stuff</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=snowflake><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=❄️ src=media-ose/2744-E7445.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-870883126656782357 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=870883126656782357><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, July 31, 2021 6:18 AM">6:18 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>found the video:
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<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRYuUqYI3nM">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRYuUqYI3nM</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMFO6hGLq516_3Qnw2Dl2UQ><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Parsianada</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRYuUqYI3nM"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Ancient Persian Air Conditioning</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/hRYuUqYI3nM width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-874815377664786474 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=874815377664786474><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, August 11, 2021 2:43 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-874815377664786474>8/11/2021 2:43 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://youtu.be/FYwUfRg6q1g?t=638">https://youtu.be/FYwUfRg6q1g?t=638</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqA-SppbeUi5ou0isB27mgg><div class=chatlog__embed-author>One Army</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYwUfRg6q1g&start=638"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">MN#54 - We made a new shredder!</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/FYwUfRg6q1g width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-874815628211519500 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=874815628211519500><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, August 11, 2021 2:44 AM">2:44 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I made the timecode specifically to the section mentioning it, but they have made a very promising system for versioning their own stuff + organizing forks in an easily navigable manner!</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-874815660176330812 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=874815660176330812><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, August 11, 2021 2:45 AM">2:45 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://machine-inventory.preciousplastic.com/">https://machine-inventory.preciousplastic.com/</a></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-874815873372786718 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=874815873372786718><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, August 11, 2021 2:45 AM">2:45 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I made a comment in the YouTube Video on suggested "filters" to add in, as well as one on the need for a centralized/standardized test of sorts, as well as measures derived from this</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-874816036678017025 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=874816036678017025><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, August 11, 2021 2:46 AM">2:46 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I need to make a wiki page on that sometime. IIRC i did make one on a measure for 3D Printer "throughput" in "Benchys per Hour" or something, let me grab that</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-874816151882973195 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=874816151882973195><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, August 11, 2021 2:47 AM">2:47 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>FDM Printers are especially complex to predict given paths and whatnot hange extremely with each model, so that is why i made that one</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-874816470440353812 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=874816470440353812><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, August 11, 2021 2:48 AM">2:48 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>But measuring KG shredded per hour doesn't take into account all factors in a shredder (blade design, hopper size, etc), and injection molders/extruders seem hard to measure (at least to me, need to dig if there are industry standards for this measurement)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-874816532755148810 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=874816532755148810><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, August 11, 2021 2:48 AM">2:48 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><strong>Anyhow what do you all think of that?</strong></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Wednesday, August 11, 2021 2:48 AM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-877000018047938560 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=877000018047938560><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, August 17, 2021 3:24 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-877000018047938560>8/17/2021 3:24 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqMB8JrR2mg">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqMB8JrR2mg</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIrkL-1VQP215VALlOJYPwg><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Trash Panda Disc Golf</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqMB8JrR2mg"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Phase 1 is over. . .</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/NqMB8JrR2mg width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-880579861608022056 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880579861608022056><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/7ae59e77433a1eb8baae44b1e29c212a-6602D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=wesxdz data-user-id=230472437265989635>Wesxdz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 12:29 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-880579861608022056>8/27/2021 12:29 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://github.com/luxonis/depthai-hardware">https://github.com/luxonis/depthai-hardware</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(30,35,39,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://github.com/luxonis/depthai-hardware><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">GitHub - luxonis/depthai-hardware: Altium Designs for DepthAI Carri...</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Altium Designs for DepthAI Carrier Boards. Contribute to luxonis/depthai-hardware development by creating an account on GitHub.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-881220474993000518 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=881220474993000518><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/7ae59e77433a1eb8baae44b1e29c212a-6602D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=wesxdz data-user-id=230472437265989635>Wesxdz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, August 28, 2021 6:55 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-881220474993000518>8/28/2021 6:55 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17nKMpi_Dh5slCqzLSFBoWMxNvWiwt2R-t4e_l7LPLhU/edit#gid=0">https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17nKMpi_Dh5slCqzLSFBoWMxNvWiwt2R-t4e_l7LPLhU/edit#gid=0</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17nKMpi_Dh5slCqzLSFBoWMxNvWiwt2R-t4e_l7LPLhU/edit><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">COSSI: $100M+ Revenue Commercial Open-Source Software (COSS) Compan...</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">COSSI
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Mirantis,</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/_MIS6DvntXYsqiuOWqSml-UMBwBmTsFWtOUMujPIQo-9B5C7> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/_MIS6DvntXYsqiuOWqSml-UMBwBmTsFWtOUMujPIQo-9B5C7 alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=watermelon><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=🍉 src=media-ose/1f349-79F56.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-881232905949560843 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=881232905949560843><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/2-ADBB4.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=paulum3036 data-user-id=860212895501778954>Paulum</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, August 28, 2021 7:44 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-881232905949560843>8/28/2021 7:44 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Maixduino with the stereo camera optional board. For the price an amazingly capable set up. A board that I have played with some does very similar things. I have the stereo camera for it but have not attached yet. Uses a platformio variant. Uses Micropython variant. Is a k210 chip (think this correct) Which is also supported in regular platformio. <a href="https://github.com/sipeed/Maixduino">https://github.com/sipeed/Maixduino</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(30,35,39,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://github.com/sipeed/Maixduino><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">GitHub - sipeed/Maixduino: Arduino port on Maix board ( k210 )</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Arduino port on Maix board ( k210 ). Contribute to sipeed/Maixduino development by creating an account on GitHub.</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/Maixduino-93005> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/Maixduino-93005 alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-881468108320178207 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=881468108320178207><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/f85473df24e82818bc889e8806cd53fc-DF3BC.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=paleoracle data-user-id=573921462143025162>PaleOracle</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, August 29, 2021 11:19 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-881468108320178207>8/29/2021 11:19 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://innovationzonefacts.com/">https://innovationzonefacts.com/</a> Possibly for the future...</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://innovationzonefacts.com/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Nevada Innovation Zone Facts</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Innovation Zones (IZ) are a unique way to help diversify Nevada’s economy. Recently proposed legislation could help build the economy of the future right here in our state, building a place where technology and talent from around the world comes to create, collaborate and innovate.</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/BlockChains_infographic-247FB.jpg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/BlockChains_infographic-247FB.jpg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-881684792242995221 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=881684792242995221><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/7ae59e77433a1eb8baae44b1e29c212a-6602D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=wesxdz data-user-id=230472437265989635>Wesxdz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, August 30, 2021 1:40 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-881684792242995221>8/30/2021 1:40 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://youtu.be/nwVmUhkF7E4">https://youtu.be/nwVmUhkF7E4</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQnYwidVpqvJKNbwwSMI4Tw><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Library of Economic Possibility</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwVmUhkF7E4"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">What is the Library of Economic Possibility?</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/nwVmUhkF7E4 width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-881685379558801418 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=881685379558801418><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, August 30, 2021 1:42 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-881685379558801418>8/30/2021 1:42 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I feel a disturbance in the force</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-881685390484963388 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=881685390484963388><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/7ae59e77433a1eb8baae44b1e29c212a-6602D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=wesxdz data-user-id=230472437265989635>Wesxdz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, August 30, 2021 1:42 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-881685390484963388>8/30/2021 1:42 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I've been reading a bunch of posts by Yancey Strickler, one of the cofounders of Kickstarter. He has some great insights about post-capitalism</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-881685456054517870 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=881685456054517870><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/7ae59e77433a1eb8baae44b1e29c212a-6602D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/7ae59e77433a1eb8baae44b1e29c212a-6602D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=wesxdz>Wesxdz</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'881685390484963388')"> I've been reading a bunch of posts by Yancey Strickler, one of the cofounders of Kickstarter. He has some great insights about post-capitalism </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=wesxdz data-user-id=230472437265989635>Wesxdz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, August 30, 2021 1:43 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-881685456054517870>8/30/2021 1:43 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://www.ystrickler.com/">https://www.ystrickler.com/</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.ystrickler.com/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Yancey Strickler</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Yancey Strickler homepage, blog, news, bio. Kickstarter cofounder and former CEO.</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/Author%2Bphoto%2Bcropped-E6F3B.jpg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/Author%2Bphoto%2Bcropped-E6F3B.jpg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-881968630554820680 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=881968630554820680><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5f2e719a9dac42a723b1b51646b8a4b4-F9D26.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=life_long_learner data-user-id=827415572111032350>Paul P.</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, August 30, 2021 8:28 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-881968630554820680>8/30/2021 8:28 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>This seems congruent, given that most of Kickstarter is showing monetary support for largely creative goals that aren’t a strictly financial return</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-881968846284652644 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=881968846284652644><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, August 30, 2021 8:29 PM">8:29 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Also Kickstarter employees unionized !</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=mechanic><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=🧑🔧 src=media-ose/1f9d1-200d-1f527-32922.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-884144929746616331 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=884144929746616331><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/ec74cfea40554984d75748b827287c7d-253B3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/7ae59e77433a1eb8baae44b1e29c212a-6602D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=wesxdz>Wesxdz</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'881685390484963388')"> I've been reading a bunch of posts by Yancey Strickler, one of the cofounders of Kickstarter. He has some great insights about post-capitalism </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(11,150,2) title=pcuci data-user-id=345521804074549249>pcuci</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, September 5, 2021 8:36 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-884144929746616331>9/5/2021 8:36 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>takeaways? would love to read your synopsis, his articles are many <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-885150006607237140 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=885150006607237140><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/7ae59e77433a1eb8baae44b1e29c212a-6602D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/ec74cfea40554984d75748b827287c7d-253B3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(11,150,2) title=pcuci>pcuci</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'884144929746616331')"> takeaways? would love to read your synopsis, his articles are many <img
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src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=wesxdz data-user-id=230472437265989635>Wesxdz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, September 8, 2021 3:10 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-885150006607237140>9/8/2021 3:10 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Synopsis is try out the Bento method <a href="https://bentoism.org/2-the-bento-method">https://bentoism.org/2-the-bento-method</a></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-885150091931963393 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=885150091931963393><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, September 8, 2021 3:10 PM">3:10 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-funded_crowdfunding_projects">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-funded_crowdfunding_projects</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-funded_crowdfunding_projects><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">List of highest-funded crowdfunding projects</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">This is an incomplete list of the highest-funded crowdfunding projects (including projects which failed to achieve funding).</div></div></div></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=notebook_with_decorative_cover><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=📔 src=media-ose/1f4d4-E1314.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-885150114828677171 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=885150114828677171><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, September 8, 2021 3:10 PM">3:10 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://filecoin.io/">https://filecoin.io/</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://filecoin.io/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">A decentralized storage network for humanity's most important infor...</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Filecoin is making the web more secure and efficient with a decentralized data storage marketplace, protocol, and cryptocurrency.</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/filecoin-server-rack-share-DA980.jpg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/filecoin-server-rack-share-DA980.jpg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-885150177076334662 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=885150177076334662><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, September 8, 2021 3:10 PM">3:10 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>filecoin.io has an amazing landing page</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-885271564914921523 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=885271564914921523><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/7ae59e77433a1eb8baae44b1e29c212a-6602D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=wesxdz data-user-id=230472437265989635>Wesxdz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, September 8, 2021 11:13 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-885271564914921523>9/8/2021 11:13 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://solana.com/ignition">https://solana.com/ignition</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://solana.com/ignition><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Ignition Hackathon</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">A virtual hackathon with up to $5 million in prizes and seed funding.</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/ignitionsocialshare-6C70C.png> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/ignitionsocialshare-6C70C.png alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=eyes><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=👀 src=media-ose/1f440-6C64D.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-886284017245241375 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=886284017245241375><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/bfda12c56791ee8bacac0539df072826-465AA.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(237,146,238) title=hkienle data-user-id=860164694510010429>hkienle</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, September 11, 2021 6:16 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-886284017245241375>9/11/2021 6:16 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Should be on your reading list: <a href="https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3915997">https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3915997</a>
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(I have not read it yet. :))</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=eyes><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=👀 src=media-ose/1f440-6C64D.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>2</span></div><div class=chatlog__reaction title=pray><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=🙏 src=media-ose/1f64f-22B8D.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-886284018532876288 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=886284018532876288><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/def5e0a7ff07e73d477a87df10a3dc4f-BFBB1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(153,45,34) title=Arcane#7800 data-user-id=437808476106784770>Arcane</span> <span class=chatlog__author-tag>BOT</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, September 11, 2021 6:16 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-886284018532876288>9/11/2021 6:16 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="hkienle">@hkienle</span> has reached level <strong>5</strong>. GG!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-886284414907195432 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=886284414907195432><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/bfda12c56791ee8bacac0539df072826-465AA.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(237,146,238) title=hkienle data-user-id=860164694510010429>hkienle</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, September 11, 2021 6:17 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-886284414907195432>9/11/2021 6:17 PM</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/unknown-26918.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/unknown-26918.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: unknown.png (18.96 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-886615375322710036 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=886615375322710036><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/f85473df24e82818bc889e8806cd53fc-DF3BC.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=paleoracle data-user-id=573921462143025162>PaleOracle</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, September 12, 2021 4:12 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-886615375322710036>9/12/2021 4:12 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://3dprintingindustry.com/news/researchers-3d-print-recycled-plastic-into-affordable-tools-for-african-farmers-196015/">https://3dprintingindustry.com/news/researchers-3d-print-recycled-plastic-into-affordable-tools-for-african-farmers-196015/</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://3dprintingindustry.com/news/researchers-3d-print-recycled-plastic-into-affordable-tools-for-african-farmers-196015/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Researchers 3D print recycled plastic into affordable tools for Afr...</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Researchers at Loughborough University have recycled plastic waste into low-cost agricultural tools for local African businesses.</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/plasticproject-DAC46.jpeg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/plasticproject-DAC46.jpeg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=100><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=💯 src=media-ose/1f4af-4CFF5.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-947719768226557983 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=947719768226557983><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, February 28, 2022 6:00 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-947719768226557983>2/28/2022 6:00 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://youtu.be/InALPtKrGXU">https://youtu.be/InALPtKrGXU</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMf49SMPnhxdLormhEpfyfg><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Stephen Hawes</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InALPtKrGXU"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Using The LumenPnP In Production!</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/InALPtKrGXU width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=notebook_with_decorative_cover><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=📔 src=media-ose/1f4d4-E1314.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-985027392240226407 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=985027392240226407><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/389391b6e473017dfbb64eeab1a8d996-C4AF5.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=mitchell9048 data-user-id=367421464904990721>mitchell</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, June 11, 2022 5:47 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-985027392240226407>6/11/2022 5:47 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG_HJh3hIjc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG_HJh3hIjc</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6ZFN9Tx6xh-skXCuRHCDpQ><div class=chatlog__embed-author>PBS NewsHour</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG_HJh3hIjc"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">How Social Entrepreneurs Use Rice Husks to Power India</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/TG_HJh3hIjc width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-985624425934250035 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=985624425934250035><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, June 12, 2022 9:19 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-985624425934250035>6/12/2022 9:19 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>There is a group that does a ton of great work in india, I think the name of the group is "Development Alternatives" , let me check</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-987088135768899604 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=987088135768899604><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/389391b6e473017dfbb64eeab1a8d996-C4AF5.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=mitchell9048 data-user-id=367421464904990721>mitchell</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, June 16, 2022 10:15 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-987088135768899604>6/16/2022 10:15 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://news.slashdot.org/story/22/06/16/1912200/why-rural-americans-keep-waiting-for-fast-internet-despite-billions-spent">https://news.slashdot.org/story/22/06/16/1912200/why-rural-americans-keep-waiting-for-fast-internet-despite-billions-spent</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://news.slashdot.org/story/22/06/16/1912200/why-rural-americans-keep-waiting-for-fast-internet-despite-billions-spent><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Why Rural Americans Keep Waiting for Fast Internet, Despite Billion...</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">The U.S. government has spent billions of dollars on several rounds of programs to upgrade internet speeds in rural areas over the past decade. Despite those efforts, many residents are still stuck with service that isn't fast enough to do video calls or stream movies -- speeds that most take for gr...</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/usa_64-4E0BF.png> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/usa_64-4E0BF.png alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-987088137333399622 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=987088137333399622><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/def5e0a7ff07e73d477a87df10a3dc4f-BFBB1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(153,45,34) title=Arcane#7800 data-user-id=437808476106784770>Arcane</span> <span class=chatlog__author-tag>BOT</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, June 16, 2022 10:15 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-987088137333399622>6/16/2022 10:15 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="mitchell9048">@mitchell</span> has reached level <strong>5</strong>. GG!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-987088352719282237 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=987088352719282237><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/389391b6e473017dfbb64eeab1a8d996-C4AF5.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=mitchell9048 data-user-id=367421464904990721>mitchell</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, June 16, 2022 10:16 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-987088352719282237>6/16/2022 10:16 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://ispdesign.ui.com/">https://ispdesign.ui.com/</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://ispdesign.ui.com/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">ISP Design Center</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Your all-in-one suite for network planning and profitability tracking</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-987088834783240242 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=987088834783240242><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, June 16, 2022 10:18 PM">10:18 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZKc3PBs67c">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZKc3PBs67c</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCckETVOT59aYw80B36aP9vw><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Matthias Wandel</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZKc3PBs67c"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Wifi antenna booster dish</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/VZKc3PBs67c width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-987088989964079174 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=987088989964079174><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, June 16, 2022 10:19 PM">10:19 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_Internet_service_provider">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_Internet_service_provider</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_Internet_service_provider><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Wireless Internet service provider</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">A wireless Internet service provider (WISP) is an Internet service provider with a network based on wireless networking. Technology may include commonplace Wi-Fi wireless mesh networking, or proprietary equipment designed to operate over open 900 MHz, 2.4 GHz, 4.9, 5, 24, and 60 GHz bands or licensed frequencies in the UHF band (including the MM...</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/Tyler1-5C63B.JPG> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/Tyler1-5C63B.JPG alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-987093934100602910 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=987093934100602910><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/389391b6e473017dfbb64eeab1a8d996-C4AF5.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=mitchell9048 data-user-id=367421464904990721>mitchell</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, June 16, 2022 10:38 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-987093934100602910>6/16/2022 10:38 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVAOBMMrWBc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVAOBMMrWBc</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIRYBXDze5krPDzAEOxFGVA><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Guardian News</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVAOBMMrWBc"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">The villagers who DIYed some of the fastest internet in the UK</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/lVAOBMMrWBc width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-987441740850032640 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=987441740850032640><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, June 17, 2022 9:40 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-987441740850032640>6/17/2022 9:40 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>There was some group, “The Open Network Foundation” or something, it seemed to have fissiled out but it was really neat</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-987442842748190782 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=987442842748190782><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, June 17, 2022 9:45 PM">9:45 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Free_Network_Foundation_Technology">https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Free_Network_Foundation_Technology</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Free_Network_Foundation_Technology><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Free Network Foundation Technology</div></a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-987442878416576522 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=987442878416576522><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, June 17, 2022 9:45 PM">9:45 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I guess this was all i posted?</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-987443020175642652 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=987443020175642652><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, June 17, 2022 9:46 PM">9:46 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Especially now that i am better at using Archive.org’s “Wayback Machine” I should dive into their work again sometime.</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-987443084612743289 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=987443084612743289><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, June 17, 2022 9:46 PM">9:46 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I know they also had a few YouTube interviews iirc</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1046022464683130920 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1046022464683130920><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/af3baf9e542f82809d854763deb81943-42092.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><div class=chatlog__reply-unknown>Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.</div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=peoplefirst. data-user-id=740625002449207388>American Fascism</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, November 26, 2022 12:19 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1046022464683130920>11/26/2022 12:19 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>thanks, great food. Discord - Channels to Markdown directory confirmed <img
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src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1046022762533240954 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1046022762533240954><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, November 26, 2022 12:21 PM">12:21 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>was wondering to mirror it Discourse or/and MediaWiki as well ..</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1046028465519988836 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1046028465519988836><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/af3baf9e542f82809d854763deb81943-42092.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=peoplefirst. data-user-id=740625002449207388>American Fascism</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, November 26, 2022 12:43 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1046028465519988836>11/26/2022 12:43 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Already linked in the post above : <a href="https://journalopenhw.medium.com/open-hardware-distribution-and-documentation-working-group-pyramids-versus-circles-the-need-for-505a4f3a990">https://journalopenhw.medium.com/open-hardware-distribution-and-documentation-working-group-pyramids-versus-circles-the-need-for-505a4f3a990</a>. Precious Plastic delivered a good example, now digging in the ashes of over-branding, start-up like attitudes toward stakeholders and investors - leaving them with literally no substance or even a 'viable' product. Back to square one <img
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I believe however that a central entity has it's benefits, distributing wealth, managing waste and lowering risks for the network. Consumers/clients of the very brand are more likely interested to purchase from a strong company than from an individual or small outlet. Distribution is another major key to success.</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1046035347089408030 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1046035347089408030><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/af3baf9e542f82809d854763deb81943-42092.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=peoplefirst. data-user-id=740625002449207388>American Fascism</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, November 26, 2022 1:11 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1046035347089408030>11/26/2022 1:11 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>btw. as small vendor, 'open' or not, you can spend easily 1-2k in fees, CAD, CAM, for SEO, e-mail, books, content creators, ...</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1046339398075154432 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1046339398075154432><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/af3baf9e542f82809d854763deb81943-42092.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><div class=chatlog__reply-unknown>Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.</div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=peoplefirst. data-user-id=740625002449207388>American Fascism</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, November 27, 2022 9:19 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1046339398075154432>11/27/2022 9:19 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>yep, haven't seen this model really taking off anywhere yet (<a href="https://cooperativa.cat/)">https://cooperativa.cat/)</a>, same for social currencies as 'fair-coin'. perhaps it's picking up steam with the upcoming crises. that's normally the trigger to make people getting organized tho.
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I suppose as long there's no incentive for people to contribute to the collective's good, there will be always sharks, cowboys, ... taking advantages of whatever is being tried. PreciousPlastic shines with good examples again, turning a Opensource hardware project into a cashcow for a few whilst leaving nothing on the table <img
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src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://cooperativa.cat/),><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Cooperativa el Poblet</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Cooperativa per la transformació social mitjançant l'autogestió i el treball en xarxa.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1046361928622149662 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1046361928622149662><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/af3baf9e542f82809d854763deb81943-42092.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=peoplefirst. data-user-id=740625002449207388>American Fascism</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, November 27, 2022 10:48 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1046361928622149662>11/27/2022 10:48 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>In a monetary world, 'franchise' might be still the best model though. Lovely movie, <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4276820/">https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4276820/</a>
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As for the rest, I have a hard time how up & down stream contribs protocols could work ...</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-8EDA6.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-8EDA6.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (35.87 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4276820/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">The Founder (2016) - IMDb</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">The Founder: Directed by John Lee Hancock. With Michael Keaton, Nick Offerman, John Carroll Lynch, Linda Cardellini. The story of Ray Kroc, a salesman who turned two brothers' innovative fast food eatery, McDonald's, into the biggest restaurant business in the world, with a combination of ambition, persistence, and ruthlessness.</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/MV5BMzExNDg0MDk1M15BMl5BanBnXkFtZTgwNzE1Mj-A9284.jpg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/MV5BMzExNDg0MDk1M15BMl5BanBnXkFtZTgwNzE1Mj-A9284.jpg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1046362007588315136 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1046362007588315136><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, November 27, 2022 10:49 AM">10:49 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>just guessing, not my cup of tea ...</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1050875336709128272 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1050875336709128272><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/af3baf9e542f82809d854763deb81943-42092.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=peoplefirst. data-user-id=740625002449207388>American Fascism</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, December 9, 2022 9:43 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1050875336709128272>12/9/2022 9:43 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>keeper, <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phcUDITNrBE">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phcUDITNrBE</a> - no interview with the workers of course - poor things, are that minors ?</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-8B1FF.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-8B1FF.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (516.09 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAK4C6aa-BXlqD2KsTx54xw><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Precious Plastic</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phcUDITNrBE"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">This Indonesian woman makes $400k recycling plastic</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/phcUDITNrBE width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1050875362625724477 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1050875362625724477><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, December 9, 2022 9:43 PM">9:43 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phcUDITNrBE">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phcUDITNrBE</a></span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1050892906510163968 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1050892906510163968><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/af3baf9e542f82809d854763deb81943-42092.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=peoplefirst. data-user-id=740625002449207388>American Fascism</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, December 9, 2022 10:53 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1050892906510163968>12/9/2022 10:53 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>To me, that raises again lots of red flags and questions. How free can be 'free', decentralized content/forks/communication & trade ? PP might be an awkward edge case where abuse is normality but who knows, sharks are around every time.
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Had a look at webtorrent & <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention">#gosh-3d-business</span> again but nowhere near.</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1050894407886438410 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1050894407886438410><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, December 9, 2022 10:59 PM">10:59 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Good news however is that it's possible to have a sort of p2p trade docker template - still looking at better back end options; 'Go' got banana and Rust isn't settled yet ...</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Friday, December 9, 2022 10:59 PM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/docker-template-min-9B6CA.jpg> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/docker-template-min-9B6CA.jpg alt="Image attachment" title="Image: docker-template-min.jpg (22.26 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1052691123086311534 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1052691123086311534><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/af3baf9e542f82809d854763deb81943-42092.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=peoplefirst. data-user-id=740625002449207388>American Fascism</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, December 14, 2022 9:58 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1052691123086311534>12/14/2022 9:58 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://www.plural.sh/blog/open-source-is-the-way-out-of-a-tech-downturn/">https://www.plural.sh/blog/open-source-is-the-way-out-of-a-tech-downturn/</a>, and for the interested reader, crunchbase mailing list : <a href="https://www.crunchbase.com/">https://www.crunchbase.com/</a></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1052691970016935976 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1052691970016935976><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, December 14, 2022 10:02 PM">10:02 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>OSE/OSR/PP wise however, nothing really good in sight - too many services, riding on enflated tech and capital ...</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1054988696736256060 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1054988696736256060><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/3eba7b5848ac599b5fe673d4f73000bf-C77EB.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/7ae59e77433a1eb8baae44b1e29c212a-6602D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=wesxdz>Wesxdz</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'885150091931963393')"> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-funded_crowdfunding_projects">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-funded_crowdfunding_projects</a> </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=stardust_007 data-user-id=561462879526584320>Yasin vs. the Gang</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, December 21, 2022 6:08 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1054988696736256060>12/21/2022 6:08 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>we're doing it wrong, darling <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1055558232829067285 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1055558232829067285><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/3eba7b5848ac599b5fe673d4f73000bf-C77EB.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=stardust_007 data-user-id=561462879526584320>Yasin vs. the Gang</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, December 22, 2022 7:51 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1055558232829067285>12/22/2022 7:51 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://www.benkuhn.net/abyss/">https://www.benkuhn.net/abyss/</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.benkuhn.net/abyss/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Staring into the abyss as a core life skill</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">thinking about scary things • examples from Wave • examples from elsewhere • finding a buddy • getting the timing right • a list of abyss questions</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1055558452996485210 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1055558452996485210><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, December 22, 2022 7:52 PM">7:52 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>nailed by Camu, <a href="https://www2.hawaii.edu/~freeman/courses/phil360/16.%20Myth%20of%20Sisyphus.pdf">https://www2.hawaii.edu/~freeman/courses/phil360/16.%20Myth%20of%20Sisyphus.pdf</a></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1055558806697947146 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1055558806697947146><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, December 22, 2022 7:53 PM">7:53 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>here some of the punch lines on tiktok, <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@americanbaron">https://www.tiktok.com/@americanbaron</a> | <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@americanbaron/video/7159040437645298990?is_copy_url=1&is_from_webapp=v1">https://www.tiktok.com/@americanbaron/video/7159040437645298990?is_copy_url=1&is_from_webapp=v1</a></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Thursday, December 22, 2022 7:53 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1058464684996579328 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1058464684996579328><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/3eba7b5848ac599b5fe673d4f73000bf-C77EB.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=stardust_007 data-user-id=561462879526584320>Yasin vs. the Gang</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, December 30, 2022 8:20 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1058464684996579328>12/30/2022 8:20 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Not bad, <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="katharinaelleke">@katharinaelleke</span> , <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="davohax">@justDave</span> - your dirty tricks and abuses caused damages in 6 digit figures, for many of people involved. Good step of yours, answering a better future with censorship and banning .. RIP Precious Plastic, or what's left of it.</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Friday, December 30, 2022 8:30 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1058464985254203472 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1058464985254203472><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, December 30, 2022 8:21 PM">8:21 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Detailed report in progress, there are people who want to progress ..</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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This year was a catastrophe so far. Numerous job losses, people's investments, retirement but also their reputation have been put on the edge - if not lost; and myself in a pretty awful situation, facing lawsuits, and tremendous work (5-10 years) to recover the damages for everyone involved. If I'm lucky, we don't need to leave the country ... The upcoming global problems won't make it easier. Venture capital dropped by 70%, compared to 2021.
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The 'new rules' have also other bad impacts on small-scale recycling, such as the general discovery of talents, projects, etc... Most of the new designs, enhancements, and fixes - have been financed through the Bazar discovery, in the last 4 years. That includes supporting the rare talents we have around.
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However, re-evaluating the existing portfolio, v3-v4 but also OSR-plastic enhancements & designs, based on user & customer feedback and needs, I'd suggest splitting the project into several parts, aiming for a success-oriented approach, for the entire chain, eg: builder and user. </code></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1058478346150871081 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1058478346150871081><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, December 30, 2022 9:15 PM">9:15 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--multiline nohighlight">1. v3 should be refined/re-designed, less waste, risk, and resources ( and disappointment ) - aiming for the educational and enthusiasts camp, ideally classroom grade equipment - also to increase the educational value of courses. Refinements, addons, etc... for lab usage could be added once a good foundation allows collaborative methods (distributed design). We have some proposals for that in the drawer as well.
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2. v4 requires unfortunately too much labor and professional equipment, rendering its current price/value ratio beyond reasonable - and yet, it doesn't address SME or professional needs. Open to suggestions but composing industrial solutions into more tailored solutions may have the best outcome, in the long run. That would also allow having some buffer for other side projects.
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3. Networking, allocation of funds, etc... deserves more coordinated attention. I'd suggest that dedicated working groups could create a good plan, eg: visits to fair trades, finding sponsors, etc.
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ps: dm me for questions or hints. </code></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1058479102371311767 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1058479102371311767><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, December 30, 2022 9:18 PM">9:18 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Once again, I'd like to emphasize that OS indeed may have a chance .. The class room could be a good start <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1058484178674516058 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1058484178674516058><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/3eba7b5848ac599b5fe673d4f73000bf-C77EB.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=stardust_007 data-user-id=561462879526584320>Yasin vs. the Gang</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, December 30, 2022 9:38 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1058484178674516058>12/30/2022 9:38 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>ah, before I forget it, that's what I end up with, for OSR, or whatever name it will have <img
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1. what does it do to the individual
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1058495545443893339 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1058495545443893339><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/3eba7b5848ac599b5fe673d4f73000bf-C77EB.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=stardust_007 data-user-id=561462879526584320>Yasin vs. the Gang</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, December 30, 2022 10:23 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1058495545443893339>12/30/2022 10:23 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>For the interested reader, Melisa nailed it. <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@melisa_arnautovic/video/7173270397520071942?is_copy_url=1&is_from_webapp=v1">https://www.tiktok.com/@melisa_arnautovic/video/7173270397520071942?is_copy_url=1&is_from_webapp=v1</a>
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Without intention of mockery, gaslighting, ... we found it extremely fascinating that a few very dull, empty, uninterested, backgroundless, ... characters and their dogs - well rewarded - managed to spin off indeed that evil cycle of the ´Gervais principles´ (great read for quitters :-), living from the short lifecycles of trespassers, a 500k-2M production, with nothing but some bucks made on Patreon, ...
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I can´t help myself but explaining all that cruelty with reasons I don´t want to know ..
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<a href="https://www.ribbonfarm.com/2009/10/07/the-gervais-principle-or-the-office-according-to-the-office/">https://www.ribbonfarm.com/2009/10/07/the-gervais-principle-or-the-office-according-to-the-office/</a></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Friday, December 30, 2022 11:09 PM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-3E993.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-3E993.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (41.32 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href="https://www.ribbonfarm.com/author/admin/"><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Venkatesh Rao</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.ribbonfarm.com/2009/10/07/the-gervais-principle-or-the-office-according-to-the-office/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">The Gervais Principle, Or The Office According to “The Office”</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">My neighbor introduced me to The Office back in 2005. Since then, I’ve watched every episode of both the British and American versions. I’ve watched the show obsessively because I&#8217…</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/compLifeCycle-4C84E.JPG> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/compLifeCycle-4C84E.JPG alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1059228135025029160 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1059228135025029160><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/3eba7b5848ac599b5fe673d4f73000bf-C77EB.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=stardust_007 data-user-id=561462879526584320>Yasin vs. the Gang</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, January 1, 2023 10:54 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1059228135025029160>1/1/2023 10:54 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>CitizenSh**Shop (@Leavemealone) , not bad performance so far, ZERO contribs, 200+ contacts killed, 3 networks ruined, plenty of running and potential projects fucked - whilst watching you, and PP Mafia plundering and raping everything and everyone else around, through the front and back door - PP HQ asking on top money for all that, killing everything what´s left for the so called disposable, Garry, Baki, PlasticHub, Timberstar, Jason, ...
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wondering why you´re around at all</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Monday, January 2, 2023 12:02 AM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1059230050404274216 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1059230050404274216><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/3eba7b5848ac599b5fe673d4f73000bf-C77EB.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=stardust_007 data-user-id=561462879526584320>Yasin vs. the Gang</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, January 1, 2023 11:02 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1059230050404274216>1/1/2023 11:02 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>but hey, dont worry, we understand Dave Hakken´s statement ´we like it rather quite here´ ... you´re a good choice</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1059233097507409990 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1059233097507409990><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/3eba7b5848ac599b5fe673d4f73000bf-C77EB.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=stardust_007 data-user-id=561462879526584320>Yasin vs. the Gang</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, January 1, 2023 11:14 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1059233097507409990>1/1/2023 11:14 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>-----------------------------------
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Anyway, it´s 2023 - I hope we can leave that dark times behind. Still wondering what´s the next step. Combining OSE/PP/OSR/PH & maker efforts makes most sense though. Perhaps we have an expert around who understands blockchains, something which would allow us to create incentives for OS contributions, unaffected from central power ...</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1059233099143192657 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1059233099143192657><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/def5e0a7ff07e73d477a87df10a3dc4f-BFBB1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(153,45,34) title=Arcane#7800 data-user-id=437808476106784770>Arcane</span> <span class=chatlog__author-tag>BOT</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, January 1, 2023 11:14 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1059233099143192657>1/1/2023 11:14 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="stardust_007">@Yasin vs. the Gang</span> has reached level <strong>4</strong>. GG!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1059233803371020368 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1059233803371020368><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/3eba7b5848ac599b5fe673d4f73000bf-C77EB.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=stardust_007 data-user-id=561462879526584320>Yasin vs. the Gang</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, January 1, 2023 11:16 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1059233803371020368>1/1/2023 11:16 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>the needed tooling, etc... became clear so far,
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<a href="https://git.osr-plastic.org/osr-plastic/system/src/branch/master/_pages/packages%20-%20q1.jpg">https://git.osr-plastic.org/osr-plastic/system/src/branch/master/_pages/packages%20-%20q1.jpg</a> - still a few years away from mature but works for most cases</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1059233921478434856 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1059233921478434856><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, January 1, 2023 11:17 PM">11:17 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/packages_-_q1-E7E27.jpg> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/packages_-_q1-E7E27.jpg alt="Image attachment" title="Image: packages_-_q1.jpg (93.55 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1063964782522269746 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1063964782522269746><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/3eba7b5848ac599b5fe673d4f73000bf-C77EB.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><div class=chatlog__reply-unknown>Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.</div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=stardust_007 data-user-id=561462879526584320>Yasin vs. the Gang</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, January 15, 2023 12:36 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1063964782522269746>1/15/2023 12:36 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>nice, one of the more sexy things I´ve seen recently. CERN didn´t really appeal to me but felt safe with it through the years <img
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src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-F7982.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-F7982.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (310.86 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1065999360422318080 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1065999360422318080><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/55a669254c7a27c90912e3b2943c20e6-A80F1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><div class=chatlog__reply-unknown>Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.</div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=shaolin_peanut data-user-id=714894630789054606>sbars</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, January 20, 2023 3:20 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1065999360422318080>1/20/2023 3:20 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I don't want to be rude, but we can agree the purpose of this discord channel is to talk about OSE right? It isn't the place to talk about all the issues with Precious Plastic.
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And If I were in your situation, I'd pour my heart into a huge series of blog post, and then somehow get myself free from this leadership and do something else.
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You take the position of the martyr, of the victim, but what if you quit supporting this organization and used your talents in something else? First thing that comes to mind is electronics recycling instead of plastic recycling, as it's also a business involving shredding and metal work. The benefit is that selling metals is way more profitable than plastic objects. Or you could somehow find other revenue streams that are not dependent on the teach, like doing metalwork training (education is a great business). Also I'd recommend you quit using discord (your attention deserves to be direct on machines and innovation, not endless feuds), get income in the most direct/low-friction optionality you can find (sell whatever you can, or get a job). To get rid of the flu, get outside everyday and take magnesium chloride.
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You can get out of this hole you've dug for yourself, if you allow yourself to believe it can be much easier than you think to do so. Let go of that weight you've been carrying for years, allow yourself to succeed and get free of the shadow of precious plastic. you're better than this</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1066017959442661427 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1066017959442661427><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/3eba7b5848ac599b5fe673d4f73000bf-C77EB.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=stardust_007 data-user-id=561462879526584320>Yasin vs. the Gang</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, January 20, 2023 4:34 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1066017959442661427>1/20/2023 4:34 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>happy to see btw. the net mobilizing for exposure and truths, globally - 2023 seems to be the year of awakening, ... time to break old power structures, mainly designed for slavery, ...
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<a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@introverts008/video/7190018165554826502">https://www.tiktok.com/@introverts008/video/7190018165554826502</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(254,44,85,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.tiktok.com/@introverts008/video/7190018165554826502><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Tajana on TikTok</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Tajana's short video with ♬ original sound</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/689949726c1a45f993326734eccaedf3_167405656-C2E0C.jpeg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/689949726c1a45f993326734eccaedf3_167405656-C2E0C.jpeg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1066305153000558592 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1066305153000558592><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/55a669254c7a27c90912e3b2943c20e6-A80F1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=shaolin_peanut data-user-id=714894630789054606>sbars</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, January 21, 2023 11:35 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1066305153000558592>1/21/2023 11:35 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Didnt mean to offend you, just hoped to help you find some peace but I cannot, and I dont know the full context. Apologies for speaking on things I know nothing about.
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Hoping that things will get better for you at some point, I send my prayers and encouragement</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1067858572391764069 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1067858572391764069><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/3eba7b5848ac599b5fe673d4f73000bf-C77EB.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=stardust_007 data-user-id=561462879526584320>Yasin vs. the Gang</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, January 25, 2023 6:28 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1067858572391764069>1/25/2023 6:28 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Ah, at some point - there's some business logic/messaging needed, between cs-cart, Discourse and service providers. Not sure AMQP is still a thing. Also looking for an alternative to RQL (querying sub systems)</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=eyes><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=👀 src=media-ose/1f440-6C64D.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1068250845017280572 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1068250845017280572><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/3eba7b5848ac599b5fe673d4f73000bf-C77EB.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=stardust_007 data-user-id=561462879526584320>Yasin vs. the Gang</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, January 26, 2023 8:27 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1068250845017280572>1/26/2023 8:27 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>still, wondering why automatisch got downvoted, ...</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1071557239208431677 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1071557239208431677><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/def5e0a7ff07e73d477a87df10a3dc4f-BFBB1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(153,45,34) title=Arcane#7800 data-user-id=437808476106784770>Arcane</span> <span class=chatlog__author-tag>BOT</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, February 4, 2023 11:25 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1071557239208431677>2/4/2023 11:25 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="katbotretirementfund.">@KatBot Retirement Fund</span> has reached level <strong>2</strong>. GG!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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On top of exorbitant labor, there is a dozen of other trades one has to master, SEO, a bunch of script languages, etc... to get an idea from zero to market. I looked at Crunchbase and others but can't make sense of it. The little maker still faces massive obstacles. Perhaps I missed some new ways, ... OpenAI doesn't seem very compelling either.</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1071564316467286107 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1071564316467286107><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, February 4, 2023 11:54 PM">11:54 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>A pool of shared resources, to pimp whatever brand stack in a copy paste style could certainly help. Open to suggestions <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1110145118012461056 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1110145118012461056><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5-E9BDB.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=katbotretirementfund. data-user-id=1061395407382532186>KatBot Retirement Fund</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, May 22, 2023 12:00 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1110145118012461056>5/22/2023 12:00 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Alrighty,
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still in it's infancy but the first layer getting shape, primarily dealing with basic concepts of a 'core'.
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after that, distribution, deployment (social media, forum, shops, ...)
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Feedback loops as described in ISO9001 is on the radar as well.</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-6E0DD.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-6E0DD.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (35.75 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1132082451259338795 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1132082451259338795><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/7ae59e77433a1eb8baae44b1e29c212a-6602D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=wesxdz data-user-id=230472437265989635>Wesxdz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, July 22, 2023 12:51 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1132082451259338795>7/22/2023 12:51 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="http://web.stanford.edu/class/cs224w/">http://web.stanford.edu/class/cs224w/</a></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1132082614598127617 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1132082614598127617><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, July 22, 2023 12:52 AM">12:52 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="http://networksciencebook.com/chapter/0">http://networksciencebook.com/chapter/0</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=http://networksciencebook.com/chapter/0><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Network Science by Albert-László Barabási</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">The power of network science, the beauty of network visualization.</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/networksciencebook-C9629.jpg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/networksciencebook-C9629.jpg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1132082844756361266 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1132082844756361266><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, July 22, 2023 12:53 AM">12:53 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I have been thinking more about osh business models and realized that one problem is potentially a lack of collaboration threshold</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1132083239662657719 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1132083239662657719><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, July 22, 2023 12:54 AM">12:54 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I think that the urge to DIY every part of a project can lead to burnout or difficulty compared to purchasing, but I think that possibilities like using an LLM to aquire BOM or do better project planning through graph theory could help. Does anyone have any thoughts on this?</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=thumbsup><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=👍 src=media-ose/1f44d-27259.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1132087066767917218 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1132087066767917218><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/7ae59e77433a1eb8baae44b1e29c212a-6602D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=wesxdz>Wesxdz</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1132083239662657719')"> I think that the urge to DIY every part of a project can lead to burnout or difficulty compared to purchasing, but I think that possibilities like using an LLM to aquire BOM or do better project planning through graph theory could help. Does anyone have any thoughts on this? </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=303adastra data-user-id=457390086879969280>303adastra</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, July 22, 2023 1:09 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1132087066767917218>7/22/2023 1:09 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I'm of the opinion the current state of the art tooling (i.e., spreadsheets and Wiki pages) are too slow at capturing/maintaining/updating BOM and/or assembly instructions for OSHW and that we need to adopt a new approach that's more akin to how we manage projects in open-source software. The founder of the Mach 30 foundation gave a talk on what such an approach would look like at the recent Southern California Linux Expo <a href="https://youtu.be/qIMT--XEZiM">https://youtu.be/qIMT--XEZiM</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCN2nbMPLJWv3Y__4JuF_hMQ><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Southern California Linux Expo</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIMT--XEZiM"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Fire, Smoke, and Open Source Hardware</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/qIMT--XEZiM width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=eyes><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=👀 src=media-ose/1f440-6C64D.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1132087514698629180 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1132087514698629180><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/ac387c8f9c811c4255a7a524df14b736-E8063.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=katbotretirementfund data-user-id=1127306683929067640>Anne vs the Gang</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, July 22, 2023 1:11 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1132087514698629180>7/22/2023 1:11 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Cant say anthing about protocols, ... or graphs but watching the pace OSHW is moving, we might be 5-10 years away from similar collaborations at scale as seen in the software world. Semi-conductor business is currently paving the way..</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Saturday, July 22, 2023 1:14 AM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1132088159006626003 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1132088159006626003><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, July 22, 2023 1:14 AM">1:14 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Even with the best tools for the job, as Solidworks, and PDM (product configuration / managment) - it's a fulltime job to handle it. Custom APIs, etc... not included.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1132092112733732956 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1132092112733732956><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/7ae59e77433a1eb8baae44b1e29c212a-6602D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=303adastra>303adastra</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1132087066767917218')"> I'm of the opinion the current state of the art tooling (i.e., spreadsheets and Wiki pages) are too slow at capturing/maintaining/updating BOM and/or assembly instructions for OSHW and that we need to adopt a new approach that's more akin to how we manage projects in open-source software. The founder of the Mach 30 foundation gave a talk on what such an approach would look like at the recent Southern California Linux Expo <a href="https://youtu.be/qIMT--XEZiM">https://youtu.be/qIMT--XEZiM</a> </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=wesxdz data-user-id=230472437265989635>Wesxdz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, July 22, 2023 1:29 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1132092112733732956>7/22/2023 1:29 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>yo this is amazing, let's get the GVCS to the moon on an open source rocket hehe</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-65747.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-65747.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (41.05 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=rocket><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=🚀 src=media-ose/1f680-A35CE.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>2</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1132099683519565895 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1132099683519565895><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/7ae59e77433a1eb8baae44b1e29c212a-6602D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=wesxdz data-user-id=230472437265989635>Wesxdz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, July 22, 2023 1:59 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1132099683519565895>7/22/2023 1:59 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Let's make some money from OSH <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1132106580612100178 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1132106580612100178><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/7ae59e77433a1eb8baae44b1e29c212a-6602D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=303adastra>303adastra</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1132087066767917218')"> I'm of the opinion the current state of the art tooling (i.e., spreadsheets and Wiki pages) are too slow at capturing/maintaining/updating BOM and/or assembly instructions for OSHW and that we need to adopt a new approach that's more akin to how we manage projects in open-source software. The founder of the Mach 30 foundation gave a talk on what such an approach would look like at the recent Southern California Linux Expo <a href="https://youtu.be/qIMT--XEZiM">https://youtu.be/qIMT--XEZiM</a> </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=wesxdz data-user-id=230472437265989635>Wesxdz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, July 22, 2023 2:27 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1132106580612100178>7/22/2023 2:27 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>really liked around min 16-18</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-B38C0.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-B38C0.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (122.99 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=thumbsup><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=👍 src=media-ose/1f44d-27259.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1133099737449513060 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1133099737449513060><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/7ae59e77433a1eb8baae44b1e29c212a-6602D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=wesxdz data-user-id=230472437265989635>Wesxdz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, July 24, 2023 8:13 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1133099737449513060>7/24/2023 8:13 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I would like to find some resources on <code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--multiline nohighlight">purchase vs self-fabrication expediency for open source hardware ecologies</code> if anyone has ideas</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1160643016344743939 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1160643016344743939><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/901af8d5d7b236a5da3de700cb7bbbb8-CA765.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=nobody2877 data-user-id=1136741687046197360>Anne vs. the Mafia</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, October 8, 2023 8:20 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1160643016344743939>10/8/2023 8:20 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Latest Duck Elevator Machine, 400g+
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#thermalmisconfigurator</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/1-1E1C6.jpg> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/1-1E1C6.jpg alt="Image attachment" title="Image: 1.jpg (225.5 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/2-0F14B.jpg> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/2-0F14B.jpg alt="Image attachment" title="Image: 2.jpg (227.36 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/cabinet-B087C.jpg> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/cabinet-B087C.jpg alt="Image attachment" title="Image: cabinet.jpg (309.4 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1160643511914344518 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1160643511914344518><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, October 8, 2023 8:22 PM">8:22 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>was built for a young company, developing casings for electronics, outputs up to 500g</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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#thermalmisconfigurator </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=303adastra data-user-id=457390086879969280>303adastra</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, October 8, 2023 11:53 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1160696565116190720>10/8/2023 11:53 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>What would you use this for?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1160790974046408815 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1160790974046408815><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/901af8d5d7b236a5da3de700cb7bbbb8-CA765.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=nobody2877 data-user-id=1136741687046197360>Anne vs. the Mafia</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, October 9, 2023 6:08 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1160790974046408815>10/9/2023 6:08 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I heard that people inject plastic into moulds with it <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1160791657478897714 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1160791657478897714><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/def5e0a7ff07e73d477a87df10a3dc4f-BFBB1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(153,45,34) title=Arcane#7800 data-user-id=437808476106784770>Arcane</span> <span class=chatlog__author-tag>BOT</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, October 9, 2023 6:11 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1160791657478897714>10/9/2023 6:11 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="nobody2877">@Anne vs. the Mafia</span> has reached level <strong>1</strong>. GG!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1160807568772431943 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1160807568772431943><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/901af8d5d7b236a5da3de700cb7bbbb8-CA765.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=nobody2877 data-user-id=1136741687046197360>Anne vs. the Mafia</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, October 9, 2023 7:14 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1160807568772431943>10/9/2023 7:14 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>However, the machine on the right resembles more or less low-tech efforts of the last 5 years, mostly used for buzzword activities, producing stuff for demos (stuff nobody really needs <img
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src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> - and the one on the left finally enables predictable shots, as requested by small companies, beyond the 150g limits :). To me, it paves the way to start working on a fully automated setup, using/combining an extruder as feed. That would allow us to replicate agriculture/farming and perhaps food & pharma components .. I am so excited, more than a grown up should be tho <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1160817667670823022 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1160817667670823022><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/901af8d5d7b236a5da3de700cb7bbbb8-CA765.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=nobody2877 data-user-id=1136741687046197360>Anne vs. the Mafia</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, October 9, 2023 7:54 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1160817667670823022>10/9/2023 7:54 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Btw. - 'Openhardware Business', or in our case, 'eating our own dogfood'. The OSR (is just a test) stack more or less settled on Discourse, Gitea, Hugo, and a toolchain to help with documentation (CAD, CAM, Electrics). Still wondering to deploy this as one-click SASS. Not familar with containerizing, my last attempts with Rancher & Co failed. However, the idea is as said to provide small organizations, individuals, ... with tools, to distribute content, and perhaps sell products.
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Perhaps there are services to deploy and offer this ...</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1160818088065904680 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1160818088065904680><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, October 9, 2023 7:56 AM">7:56 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>a bit dated, <a href="https://git.osr-plastic.org/osr-plastic/system/src/branch/master/diagrams">https://git.osr-plastic.org/osr-plastic/system/src/branch/master/diagrams</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/compile_component_v2-24AE0.jpg> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/compile_component_v2-24AE0.jpg alt="Image attachment" title="Image: compile_component_v2.jpg (67.65 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1160818599187980398 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1160818599187980398><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, October 9, 2023 7:58 AM">7:58 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>At the moment, it can deal with the needs of Fablabs, OSE, OSR and even R&D projects as TheFlipFlopi (<a href="https://www.instagram.com/theflipflopi/)">https://www.instagram.com/theflipflopi/)</a> in developing countries, sure almighty <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="katharinaelleke">@katharinaelleke</span> can add her 2 cents <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1160818740875767829 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1160818740875767829><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, October 9, 2023 7:59 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1160818740875767829>10/9/2023 7:59 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>That’s cool!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1160821693401542756 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1160821693401542756><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/901af8d5d7b236a5da3de700cb7bbbb8-CA765.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=nobody2877 data-user-id=1136741687046197360>Anne vs. the Mafia</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, October 9, 2023 8:10 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1160821693401542756>10/9/2023 8:10 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Yeah, the lion chunk of work, goes into maintaining, recomposing, ... data (CAD, tests, docs) - pretty much the biggest obstacle and barrier to get folks into it ...</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1161018989632294912 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1161018989632294912><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/901af8d5d7b236a5da3de700cb7bbbb8-CA765.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=nobody2877>Anne vs. the Mafia</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1160807568772431943')"> However, the machine on the right resembles more or less low-tech efforts of the last 5 years, mostly used for buzzword activities, producing stuff for demos (stuff nobody really needs <img
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src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> - and the one on the left finally enables predictable shots, as requested by small companies, beyond the 150g limits :). To me, it paves the way to start working on a fully automated setup, using/combining an extruder as feed. That would allow us to replicate agriculture/farming and perhaps food & pharma components .. I am so excited, more than a grown up should be tho <img
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src="media-ose/1f483-F1B1B.svg"> </span> <span class=chatlog__reply-edited-timestamp title="Monday, October 9, 2023 7:17 AM">(edited)</span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=303adastra data-user-id=457390086879969280>303adastra</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, October 9, 2023 9:14 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1161018989632294912>10/9/2023 9:14 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Sorry, I should've phrased my question a little better; I meant to ask, "what specific parts would you want to injection mold first?"</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1161025615445630976 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1161025615445630976><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/901af8d5d7b236a5da3de700cb7bbbb8-CA765.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=nobody2877 data-user-id=1136741687046197360>Anne vs. the Mafia</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, October 9, 2023 9:41 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1161025615445630976>10/9/2023 9:41 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Hard to tell, product design, application, etc... wasn´t on my plate til recently. For now it´s looking good, but I have to find a better controller to make sure that shots are 100% repeatable and predictable (<a href="https://www.instagram.com/stories/lovebird_opensource/3209869743205410070/)">https://www.instagram.com/stories/lovebird_opensource/3209869743205410070/)</a>. It´s outcompeting 3D print by 10-20 times, in the 300 - 400g range, by time, and surface finish</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1161026013594144779 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1161026013594144779><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, October 9, 2023 9:42 PM">9:42 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>As much I love the controllino mini (140$), I´d need a few more DACs.</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1161026337159512084 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1161026337159512084><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, October 9, 2023 9:44 PM">9:44 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>However, people do prototyping but also small batches, shoe soles (TPU, 350g) with that .. time will tell</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Monday, October 9, 2023 9:44 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1161027299613884456 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1161027299613884456><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/901af8d5d7b236a5da3de700cb7bbbb8-CA765.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=nobody2877>Anne vs. the Mafia</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1161025615445630976')"> Hard to tell, product design, application, etc... wasn´t on my plate til recently. For now it´s looking good, but I have to find a better controller to make sure that shots are 100% repeatable and predictable (<a href="https://www.instagram.com/stories/lovebird_opensource/3209869743205410070/)">https://www.instagram.com/stories/lovebird_opensource/3209869743205410070/)</a>. It´s outcompeting 3D print by 10-20 times, in the 300 - 400g range, by time, and surface finish </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=303adastra data-user-id=457390086879969280>303adastra</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, October 9, 2023 9:47 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1161027299613884456>10/9/2023 9:47 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Looks like a froyo dispenser at the moment</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1161028563315728464 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1161028563315728464><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/901af8d5d7b236a5da3de700cb7bbbb8-CA765.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=nobody2877 data-user-id=1136741687046197360>Anne vs. the Mafia</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, October 9, 2023 9:53 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1161028563315728464>10/9/2023 9:53 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>well, it punches holes too</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1161028564368494614 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1161028564368494614><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/def5e0a7ff07e73d477a87df10a3dc4f-BFBB1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(153,45,34) title=Arcane#7800 data-user-id=437808476106784770>Arcane</span> <span class=chatlog__author-tag>BOT</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, October 9, 2023 9:53 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1161028564368494614>10/9/2023 9:53 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="nobody2877">@Anne vs. the Mafia</span> has reached level <strong>2</strong>. GG!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1161029227320197130 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1161029227320197130><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=303adastra data-user-id=457390086879969280>303adastra</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, October 9, 2023 9:55 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1161029227320197130>10/9/2023 9:55 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Dumb question, can it injection-mold recycled HDPE or PP plastics? I've been trying to decide whether I should be saving my recycle code 2 and 5 plastics</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1161029872743895121 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1161029872743895121><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/901af8d5d7b236a5da3de700cb7bbbb8-CA765.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=nobody2877 data-user-id=1136741687046197360>Anne vs. the Mafia</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, October 9, 2023 9:58 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1161029872743895121>10/9/2023 9:58 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>this, and a few other types, tried also exotic stuff (modern bottle materials, amorphous), as for the time & money, I am sure there´s more pleasure with other things</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1161030296838361308 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1161030296838361308><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=303adastra data-user-id=457390086879969280>303adastra</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, October 9, 2023 9:59 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1161030296838361308>10/9/2023 9:59 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Fascinating...</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1161030646991429652 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1161030646991429652><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, October 9, 2023 10:01 PM">10:01 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Another possibly dumb question (as I'm kind of ignorant when it comes to injection-molding processes), but would I be able to injection-mold something like a 50 gal rain barrel?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1161031381380505660 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1161031381380505660><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/901af8d5d7b236a5da3de700cb7bbbb8-CA765.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=nobody2877 data-user-id=1136741687046197360>Anne vs. the Mafia</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, October 9, 2023 10:04 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1161031381380505660>10/9/2023 10:04 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>there are no dumb questions, ...
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not in one go, but you could mount a welder on a rotary, to knit all the slices together .. fun stuff</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=thumbsup><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=👍 src=media-ose/1f44d-27259.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1161031440612470966 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1161031440612470966><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, October 9, 2023 10:04 PM">10:04 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://forum.osr-plastic.org/t/plastic-welding-overview/10188">https://forum.osr-plastic.org/t/plastic-welding-overview/10188</a></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1161031572791758928 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1161031572791758928><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, October 9, 2023 10:04 PM">10:04 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I think that´s more a case for rotary casting tho (powder @ intertia )</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Monday, October 9, 2023 10:07 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1161032144047591454 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1161032144047591454><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/901af8d5d7b236a5da3de700cb7bbbb8-CA765.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=nobody2877>Anne vs. the Mafia</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1161031572791758928')"> I think that´s more a case for rotary casting tho (powder @ intertia ) </span> <span class=chatlog__reply-edited-timestamp title="Monday, October 9, 2023 10:07 PM">(edited)</span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=303adastra data-user-id=457390086879969280>303adastra</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, October 9, 2023 10:07 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1161032144047591454>10/9/2023 10:07 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Gotcha. Another thing I'll have to read up on <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1186654764423974973 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1186654764423974973><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9bd2f1b2001f7daebc107b4929888786-79120.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=hellobellojello7914 data-user-id=563850294887448576>Aschenputtel</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, December 19, 2023 2:02 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1186654764423974973>12/19/2023 2:02 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>okey, getting there, milling, drilling, turning, tapping, engraving, laser marking, plasma cutting, grinding, sanding, welding, printing, extruding covered so far, extending kinematic for external driven axes is still a bit unclear, as well an ATC for the permanent installed milling head</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Tuesday, December 19, 2023 2:02 PM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-6E1FA.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-6E1FA.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (144.86 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1186657357095256164 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1186657357095256164><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9bd2f1b2001f7daebc107b4929888786-79120.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=hellobellojello7914 data-user-id=563850294887448576>Aschenputtel</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, December 19, 2023 2:12 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1186657357095256164>12/19/2023 2:12 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>well, besides all the pain, a Fusion360 license might be out of question, I guess I have to add a bunch of wizards as in Mach3, SVG-> GCode seems practical as well
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<h3>Control Modes</h3><ul><li>[ ] 3D-Print: Marlin | Klipper</li><li>[ ] CNC: GBRL | Mach3 | Mach4-Pro | Linux-CNC</li><li>[ ] Direct: Arduino | Raspberry Pi | Custom/External (PCB) | PLC | Follow (training)</li><li>[ ] OpenROS ?</li><li>[ ] Jogging/Pendant</li></ul></span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1188557607615594556 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1188557607615594556><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/1-B2132.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=titankilleridcteam data-user-id=781978222786772993>nbodylikeyou</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, December 24, 2023 8:03 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1188557607615594556>12/24/2023 8:03 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Merry Christmas 'OpenSource' (whatever this really means <img
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1. <a href="https://files.osr-plastic.org/files/osr-machines/injection/myriad-spring/">https://files.osr-plastic.org/files/osr-machines/injection/myriad-spring/</a> most sexy, handy injector in the solar system - whopping 280g
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2. <a href="https://files.osr-plastic.org/files/osr-machines/extrusion/lydia-v3.5/">https://files.osr-plastic.org/files/osr-machines/extrusion/lydia-v3.5/</a>, clients: MIT, Lego, and R&D labs SMEs, filament winder, gauges, ... controlled dispenser yet to be figured
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3. Another battle won, small sheetpress, for reasons I don't know <img
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src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> <a href="https://files.osr-plastic.org/files/osr-machines/sheetpress/cassandra-light/">https://files.osr-plastic.org/files/osr-machines/sheetpress/cassandra-light/</a>
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4. Finally, low tech meets practical needs, injector motorized : <a href="https://files.osr-plastic.org/files/osr-machines/injection/elena-zmax-motor-mod3/">https://files.osr-plastic.org/files/osr-machines/injection/elena-zmax-motor-mod3/</a>
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All in all, yes - it's all about data, frameworks, tooling, ... able to respond fast to requests - welcome on square one comma five <img
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src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/DSC02239-3A72D.JPG> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/DSC02239-3A72D.JPG alt="Image attachment" title="Image: DSC02239.JPG (1003.95 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/latest-2A788.jpg> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/latest-2A788.jpg alt="Image attachment" title="Image: latest.jpg (340.83 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/perspective-301E3.jpg> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/perspective-301E3.jpg alt="Image attachment" title="Image: perspective.jpg (646.24 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/perspective-18943.jpg> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/perspective-18943.jpg alt="Image attachment" title="Image: perspective.jpg (592.32 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/latest-3AF78.jpg> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/latest-3AF78.jpg alt="Image attachment" title="Image: latest.jpg (209.53 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1192451732333146212 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1192451732333146212><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9bd2f1b2001f7daebc107b4929888786-79120.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=hellobellojello7914 data-user-id=563850294887448576>Aschenputtel</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, January 4, 2024 1:57 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1192451732333146212>1/4/2024 1:57 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>little bounty : implement a gateway for low-spec ARM devices, eg: Arduino, essentially it's a table accessible via different protocols : CAN/Profibus/Modbus/Custom serial,... and whatever comes along <img
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most of the leg work is done, reference implementations, docs, design is provided, see draft : <a href="https://forum.osr-plastic.org/t/guide-to-implement-standard-interfaces/10042#h-21-example-print-head-7">https://forum.osr-plastic.org/t/guide-to-implement-standard-interfaces/10042#h-21-example-print-head-7</a> | <a href="https://git.osr-plastic.org/osr-plastic/osr-firmware">https://git.osr-plastic.org/osr-plastic/osr-firmware</a>
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it's meant as library/framework to hook up sensors, Siemens servos, ... etc.. - communicating also with other platforms as Marlin. It's quite messy, and fun <img
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DM me for proposals,</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1192456471934418955 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1192456471934418955><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9bd2f1b2001f7daebc107b4929888786-79120.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=hellobellojello7914 data-user-id=563850294887448576>Aschenputtel</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, January 4, 2024 2:16 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1192456471934418955>1/4/2024 2:16 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>otherwise, implementing smaller components s PID controllers are welcome as well, my C got really rusty ...</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1192456473490497619 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1192456473490497619><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/def5e0a7ff07e73d477a87df10a3dc4f-BFBB1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(153,45,34) title=Arcane#7800 data-user-id=437808476106784770>Arcane</span> <span class=chatlog__author-tag>BOT</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, January 4, 2024 2:16 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1192456473490497619>1/4/2024 2:16 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="hellobellojello7914">@Aschenputtel</span> has reached level <strong>3</strong>. GG!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1195783793747963924 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1195783793747963924><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/af3baf9e542f82809d854763deb81943-42092.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=peoplefirst. data-user-id=740625002449207388>American Fascism</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, January 13, 2024 6:37 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1195783793747963924>1/13/2024 6:37 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Alrighty, just to keep this server, and the initial idea alive, .... next please <img
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6 hours marathon, fun stuff, feel free to add <img
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<a href="https://files.osr-plastic.org/files/osr-machines/injection/katbot-pro/">https://files.osr-plastic.org/files/osr-machines/injection/katbot-pro/</a></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Saturday, January 13, 2024 6:40 PM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/perspective-5FD14.jpg> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/perspective-5FD14.jpg alt="Image attachment" title="Image: perspective.jpg (52.04 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/perspective-vintage-deluxe-5498E.jpg> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/perspective-vintage-deluxe-5498E.jpg alt="Image attachment" title="Image: perspective-vintage-deluxe.jpg (59.98 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1197642196296409139 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1197642196296409139><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/af3baf9e542f82809d854763deb81943-42092.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=peoplefirst. data-user-id=740625002449207388>American Fascism</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, January 18, 2024 9:42 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1197642196296409139>1/18/2024 9:42 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I can see the excitement <img
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Anyone knows something better than CoPilot or ChatGPT ? It gets hiccups and shortens the output after 1000 tokens ...</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1197677339404931152 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1197677339404931152><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/af3baf9e542f82809d854763deb81943-42092.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=peoplefirst. data-user-id=740625002449207388>American Fascism</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, January 19, 2024 12:02 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1197677339404931152>1/19/2024 12:02 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>re AI, I toyed with ChatGPT a bit over the last weeks, it's definitely useful, doing research, sourcing, boilerplating, product development, etc.. however it seems a bit hyped, even simple cases as code fall short (very short), or building lists of links (often 404, outdated or just made up), and of course its inability to perform actions on the local system (creating files, ...)
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biggest problems remain, for the young 'Openhardware' 'business' : streamlining/outsourcing products/production, documentation (eg: cable harnesses, compliance) & distribution. best shot is still Solidworks, and a few dozen services, paid - marketing & sales not included <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1201564457667670159 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1201564457667670159><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/af3baf9e542f82809d854763deb81943-42092.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=peoplefirst. data-user-id=740625002449207388>American Fascism</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, January 29, 2024 5:28 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1201564457667670159>1/29/2024 5:28 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>confirmed good, still too slow, around 5-15kg the hour, not too bad what's coming out, under higher pressure, 12/7, working south min. wage (as Anne), just as artists say, creativity kicks in under massive work loads <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1205259767740891256 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1205259767740891256><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/3eba7b5848ac599b5fe673d4f73000bf-C77EB.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><div class=chatlog__reply-unknown>Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.</div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=stardust_007 data-user-id=561462879526584320>Yasin vs. the Gang</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, February 8, 2024 10:12 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1205259767740891256>2/8/2024 10:12 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="303adastra">@303adastra</span> - you gonna love this <img
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<a href="https://git.osr-plastic.org/osr-plastic/osr-ai#example-describe-the-content-of-a-file">https://git.osr-plastic.org/osr-plastic/osr-ai#example-describe-the-content-of-a-file</a>
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<code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--multiline language-sh">osr-ai chatgpt prompt --query="create a scene, with all possible primitives, lined up along one line, for SCAD" --model=gpt-4 --dst="./tests/chatgpt/primitives.scad" --system="./tests/chatgpt/scad-system.json"</code>
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still have to make it chainable (<a href="https://js.langchain.com/docs/integrations/document_loaders/file_loaders/pdf)">https://js.langchain.com/docs/integrations/document_loaders/file_loaders/pdf)</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://js.langchain.com/docs/integrations/document_loaders/file_loaders/pdf><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">PDF files | <img
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todos: plug more APIs, eg: gender of the company owner (there are now 100+), names of their employees, their social habits, company worth, social network activities, and perhaps the same about their pets <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1205654707721347122 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1205654707721347122><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/3eba7b5848ac599b5fe673d4f73000bf-C77EB.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=stardust_007>Yasin vs. the Gang</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1205259767740891256')"> <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="303adastra">@303adastra</span> - you gonna love this <img
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<a href="https://git.osr-plastic.org/osr-plastic/osr-ai#example-describe-the-content-of-a-file">https://git.osr-plastic.org/osr-plastic/osr-ai#example-describe-the-content-of-a-file</a>
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<code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--multiline language-sh">osr-ai chatgpt prompt --query="create a scene, with all possible primitives, lined up along one line, for SCAD" --model=gpt-4 --dst="./tests/chatgpt/primitives.scad" --system="./tests/chatgpt/scad-system.json"</code>
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still have to make it chainable (<a href="https://js.langchain.com/docs/integrations/document_loaders/file_loaders/pdf)">https://js.langchain.com/docs/integrations/document_loaders/file_loaders/pdf)</a> </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=303adastra data-user-id=457390086879969280>303adastra</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, February 10, 2024 12:21 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1205654707721347122>2/10/2024 12:21 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Neat~ Now if only it could do my taxes <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1205762456282996777 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1205762456282996777><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/3eba7b5848ac599b5fe673d4f73000bf-C77EB.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=303adastra>303adastra</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1205654707721347122')"> Neat~ Now if only it could do my taxes <img
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src="media-ose/1f643-F8BDC.svg"> </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=stardust_007 data-user-id=561462879526584320>Yasin vs. the Gang</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, February 10, 2024 7:29 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1205762456282996777>2/10/2024 7:29 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>well, according to the hype, accountancy will be replaced by AI sometime soon as well. 'claude - AI' recently announced a context window of 200k, and other neat features, more than enough to throw templates and excel files at the right questions, in the meantime, you can use osr-search to find someone near you <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1205762457117786135 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1205762457117786135><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/def5e0a7ff07e73d477a87df10a3dc4f-BFBB1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(153,45,34) title=Arcane#7800 data-user-id=437808476106784770>Arcane</span> <span class=chatlog__author-tag>BOT</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, February 10, 2024 7:29 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1205762457117786135>2/10/2024 7:29 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="stardust_007">@Yasin vs. the Gang</span> has reached level <strong>7</strong>. GG!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1218923257202216990 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1218923257202216990><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/0-EB806.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=psycho4o1506 data-user-id=977719542430171186>nbdody</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, March 17, 2024 3:05 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1218923257202216990>3/17/2024 3:05 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>just to keep this server alive
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#steampunk
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<a href="https://git.osr-plastic.org/osr-plastic/osr-machines/src/branch/master/injection/katbot-pro-mega-beta">https://git.osr-plastic.org/osr-plastic/osr-machines/src/branch/master/injection/katbot-pro-mega-beta</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/black-0-7893C.JPG> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/black-0-7893C.JPG alt="Image attachment" title="Image: black-0.JPG (367.78 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1218923848947204169 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1218923848947204169><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, March 17, 2024 3:08 PM">3:08 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>And, AI is getting there, Language to Code Tooling in action
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<a href="https://git.osr-plastic.org/osr-plastic/osr-firmware/src/branch/mixer-l36/mixer-control/test/pwm-mixer-query.hpp">https://git.osr-plastic.org/osr-plastic/osr-firmware/src/branch/mixer-l36/mixer-control/test/pwm-mixer-query.hpp</a>
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<code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--multiline nohighlight">Create an Arduino Class, to control stepper motors, max. 6 in total, via potentiometers. There's one additional potentiometer to control speeds of all motors, using multiplication. Dont wrap it as Markdown, output just the code.
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- Use MultiStepper class of the AccelStepper library
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- add an example Arduino program
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- dont add notes
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- each motor has 2 parameters, direction and pulse, and one for the potentiometer pin, define a struct for this
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- the controller's main function is called 'loop', and the initialization 'setup'
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- optimize the class and it's types for low-memory consumption
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- place all constants at the top, max acceleration, max speed, etc.
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- dont use moveTo or distanceToGo, use setSpeed
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Wrap the motor controller in another class, and adding this functions
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- add 2 analog inputs, to start and stop the motors. let me specify the threshold as constant
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- add 2 digital ouputs for LED feedback, eg: PIN_LED_ON, PIN_LED_OFF
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- add a function to query the speed for each motor</code></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1218924036537716747 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1218924036537716747><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, March 17, 2024 3:08 PM">3:08 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>script: <code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--multiline nohighlight">osr-ai chatgpt prompt --query="./query.md" --dst="pwm-mixer-query.hpp" --skip=false </code>
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you can massage the output using the --source argument, eg: 'add Doxygen comments', <code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--multiline nohighlight">osr-ai chatgpt prompt --query="add comments" --src="pwm-mixer-query.hpp" --dst="pwm-mixer-query.hpp" --skip=false</code></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Sunday, March 17, 2024 6:08 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1222220594548838461 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1222220594548838461><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/79d292c51e64389f77decebf36a8a712-5F38C.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=__pololeew0680__ data-user-id=977718342745985044>\__NoorSeesTheLight__/</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, March 26, 2024 5:28 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1222220594548838461>3/26/2024 5:28 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Alrighty, my friends, in the privileged west, just to fill the void, and in case you don't know where to start, like me 7 years ago :)))
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the not-so-ultimate-opensource-hardware stack keeps piling up, design tools, translations (deepl:31 languages, for yaml, toml, xlsx, hugo, markdown,... plus more yet to happen), cad conversion, reach (bots: googlemaps, socialnetworks, ...), AI: content creation, analysis, ...
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more tbc : <a href="https://plastic-hub.com/project/osr-plastic-platform/">https://plastic-hub.com/project/osr-plastic-platform/</a>
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#dancingwhilstnobodyiswatching <img
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src="media-ose/1f483-F1B1B.svg"> #offlineliberty #thisisjustatest
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question: storefront, there's just vercel & shopify, both leaving much to desire ...</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Tuesday, March 26, 2024 5:29 PM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/data-226B2.jpg> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/data-226B2.jpg alt="Image attachment" title="Image: data.jpg (39.66 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/tools-A7901.jpg> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/tools-A7901.jpg alt="Image attachment" title="Image: tools.jpg (24.09 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/core-5FDF2.jpg> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/core-5FDF2.jpg alt="Image attachment" title="Image: core.jpg (28.08 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,186,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://plastic-hub.com/project/osr-plastic-platform/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">OSR-Plastic-Platform</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">OSR-Plastic, Opensource Technology</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/osr-plastic-icons-rec-3E7ED.jpg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/osr-plastic-icons-rec-3E7ED.jpg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1222220598269448223 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1222220598269448223><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/def5e0a7ff07e73d477a87df10a3dc4f-BFBB1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(153,45,34) title=Arcane#7800 data-user-id=437808476106784770>Arcane</span> <span class=chatlog__author-tag>BOT</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, March 26, 2024 5:28 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1222220598269448223>3/26/2024 5:28 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="__pololeew0680__">@\__NoorSeesTheLight__/</span> has reached level <strong>3</strong>. GG!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1223700400520040539 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1223700400520040539><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/ff4430e79abb746417db375d28568df2-AF3EA.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=pronoobj3913 data-user-id=977719207468875786>Bullied to Death</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, March 30, 2024 7:28 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1223700400520040539>3/30/2024 7:28 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Highlights of the week <img
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<a href="https://github.com/serkandyck/realtime-voice-assistant-groq">https://github.com/serkandyck/realtime-voice-assistant-groq</a> - voice assistant
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<a href="https://3dprintingindustry.com/news/spare-parts-3d-launches-new-ai-powered-2d-to-3d-model-digitization-tool-229349/">https://3dprintingindustry.com/news/spare-parts-3d-launches-new-ai-powered-2d-to-3d-model-digitization-tool-229349/</a> - 2D to 3D
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<a href="https://www.coingecko.com/en/highlights">https://www.coingecko.com/en/highlights</a> - trending crypto</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1223700401694441543 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1223700401694441543><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/def5e0a7ff07e73d477a87df10a3dc4f-BFBB1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(153,45,34) title=Arcane#7800 data-user-id=437808476106784770>Arcane</span> <span class=chatlog__author-tag>BOT</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, March 30, 2024 7:28 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1223700401694441543>3/30/2024 7:28 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="pronoobj3913">@Bullied to Death</span> has reached level <strong>2</strong>. GG!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1230317671585939486 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1230317671585939486><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5df5dc97aa08308897ee2dc98ff95264-5AD6D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=azurite0693 data-user-id=1225203510312828950>NoorPro</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, April 18, 2024 2:43 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1230317671585939486>4/18/2024 2:43 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>exemplary, welcome to Dave's Opensource Hardware Universe - PreciousPlastic, deleted by propiearty bazar sellers @ planet earth - 2024</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-61DB4.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-61DB4.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (180.3 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1237812488418885672 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1237812488418885672><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5df5dc97aa08308897ee2dc98ff95264-5AD6D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=azurite0693 data-user-id=1225203510312828950>NoorPro</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, May 8, 2024 7:04 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1237812488418885672>5/8/2024 7:04 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Charging a few cents, per device for new libz & libc versions wouldn't be too bad after all
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<a href="https://thenewstack.io/open-source-is-at-a-crossroads/">https://thenewstack.io/open-source-is-at-a-crossroads/</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href="https://thenewstack.io/author/bill-doerrfeld/"><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Bill Doerrfeld</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://thenewstack.io/open-source-is-at-a-crossroads/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Open Source Is at a Crossroads</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">The cracks are beginning to show in this global ecosystem, as many projects lack the basic funding to sustain the software that literally runs the world.</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/fe07bb72-crossroads-7766604_1280-1024x575--12022.jpg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/fe07bb72-crossroads-7766604_1280-1024x575--12022.jpg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1237813077542572102 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1237813077542572102><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, May 8, 2024 7:07 PM">7:07 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Opensource, another perfect prove of humanity unable to communicate, learn and collaborate :))
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Maintainer/Founder of Marlin has been also struggling, can you imagine that ?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1237869415123386451 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1237869415123386451><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=303adastra data-user-id=457390086879969280>303adastra</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, May 8, 2024 10:51 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1237869415123386451>5/8/2024 10:51 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Scott Lahteine, the Marlin maintainer? He was on the Meltzone podcast 10 mo ago. Seemed to be doing fine <a href="https://youtu.be/4aMo5IyVeu0">https://youtu.be/4aMo5IyVeu0</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzUgJrG-w_KQexroYkJR9XQ><div class=chatlog__embed-author>The Meltzone Podcast</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aMo5IyVeu0"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">The man behind Marlin: How an open source project works! - The Melt...</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/4aMo5IyVeu0 width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1238038242843168841 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1238038242843168841><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5df5dc97aa08308897ee2dc98ff95264-5AD6D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=303adastra>303adastra</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1237869415123386451')"> Scott Lahteine, the Marlin maintainer? He was on the Meltzone podcast 10 mo ago. Seemed to be doing fine <a href="https://youtu.be/4aMo5IyVeu0">https://youtu.be/4aMo5IyVeu0</a> </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=azurite0693 data-user-id=1225203510312828950>NoorPro</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, May 9, 2024 10:01 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1238038242843168841>5/9/2024 10:01 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>ye, things were a bit different for Marlin 2 years ago, according to some article ... glad to hear he's doing fine again <img
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src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Thursday, May 9, 2024 10:02 AM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1238039434553987093 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1238039434553987093><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, May 9, 2024 10:06 AM">10:06 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>tbh, someone should rewrite this code base one day <img
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<code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--multiline language-cpp">// X2 Stepper
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#if HAS_X2_ENABLE && AXIS_IS_TMC(X2)
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extern TMC_CLASS(X2, X) stepperX2;
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#ifndef CHOPPER_TIMING_X2
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#define CHOPPER_TIMING_X2 CHOPPER_TIMING_X
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static constexpr chopper_timing_t chopper_timing_X2 = CHOPPER_TIMING_X2;
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#if ENABLED(SOFTWARE_DRIVER_ENABLE)
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#define X2_ENABLE_INIT() NOOP
|
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#define X2_ENABLE_WRITE(STATE) stepperX2.toff((STATE)==X_ENABLE_ON ? chopper_timing_X2.toff : 0)
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#define X2_ENABLE_READ() stepperX2.isEnabled()
|
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#endif
|
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#if AXIS_HAS_DEDGE(X2)
|
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#define X2_STEP_WRITE(STATE) do{ if (STATE) TOGGLE(X2_STEP_PIN); }while(0)
|
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#endif
|
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#endif</code></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Thursday, May 9, 2024 8:56 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1238091639793254440 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1238091639793254440><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5df5dc97aa08308897ee2dc98ff95264-5AD6D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=303adastra>303adastra</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1237869415123386451')"> Scott Lahteine, the Marlin maintainer? He was on the Meltzone podcast 10 mo ago. Seemed to be doing fine <a href="https://youtu.be/4aMo5IyVeu0">https://youtu.be/4aMo5IyVeu0</a> </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=azurite0693 data-user-id=1225203510312828950>NoorPro</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, May 9, 2024 1:34 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1238091639793254440>5/9/2024 1:34 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>just read the comments, and some parts of the vid, .... anything else but fine ... considering environmental, resource, ... problems, additive manufacturing indeed deserves more attention as currently available to small enterprises, maker/hacker spaces through</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1238091640887836723 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1238091640887836723><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/def5e0a7ff07e73d477a87df10a3dc4f-BFBB1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(153,45,34) title=Arcane#7800 data-user-id=437808476106784770>Arcane</span> <span class=chatlog__author-tag>BOT</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, May 9, 2024 1:34 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1238091640887836723>5/9/2024 1:34 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="azurite0693">@NoorPro</span> has reached level <strong>4</strong>. GG!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1238202274044448899 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1238202274044448899><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5df5dc97aa08308897ee2dc98ff95264-5AD6D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=azurite0693 data-user-id=1225203510312828950>NoorPro</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, May 9, 2024 8:53 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1238202274044448899>5/9/2024 8:53 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="vegan_anticucho">@Roland</span> , since you're here, with exotic compiler skills <img
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|
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Any recommendations how to get around this sort of code ? I like Macros, to some extend but yet, a pita to maintain and use. Didn't catch up with the language 'D', if that is still a thing ...
|
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|
||
<code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--multiline language-cpp">#if (defined(MB_STEPPER_DIR_0) && defined(MB_STEPPER_PULSE_0))
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stepperController_0 = new StepperController(this,
|
||
MB_STEPPER_DIR_0, MB_STEPPER_PULSE_0, MB_STEPPER_FEEDBACK_0, MB_STEPPER_OVERLOAD_0, MB_STEPPER_ENABLED_0,
|
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STEPPER_DEFAULT_SPEED_0,
|
||
STEPPER_PULSE_WIDTH_0,
|
||
STEPPER_DEFAULT_DIR_0,
|
||
COMPONENT_KEY_STEPPER_0,
|
||
MB_RW_STEPPER_SPEED_0);
|
||
components.push_back(stepperController_0);
|
||
stepperController_0->setGateway(modbusBridge->getMudbus());
|
||
#endif</code></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Thursday, May 9, 2024 8:56 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1238202819438317589 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1238202819438317589><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, May 9, 2024 8:55 PM">8:55 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>and worst, it's not even cross platform/compiler compatible ...
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||
|
||
<a href="https://github.com/MarlinFirmware/Marlin/blob/bab1917311877025f2d387bf009fbf75bc8c4f9e/Marlin/src/core/macros.h">https://github.com/MarlinFirmware/Marlin/blob/bab1917311877025f2d387bf009fbf75bc8c4f9e/Marlin/src/core/macros.h</a></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Thursday, May 9, 2024 8:56 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1238302385902846044 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1238302385902846044><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/7fe3bac75d292d46815d72024d716a27-CC23A.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/5df5dc97aa08308897ee2dc98ff95264-5AD6D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=azurite0693>NoorPro</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1238202274044448899')"> <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="vegan_anticucho">@Roland</span> , since you're here, with exotic compiler skills <img
|
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|
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alt="💃"
|
||
title="dancer"
|
||
src="media-ose/1f483-F1B1B.svg">
|
||
|
||
Any recommendations how to get around this sort of code ? I like Macros, to some extend but yet, a pita to maintain and use. Didn't catch up with the language 'D', if that is still a thing ...
|
||
|
||
<code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--multiline language-cpp">#if (defined(MB_STEPPER_DIR_0) && defined(MB_STEPPER_PULSE_0))
|
||
stepperController_0 = new StepperController(this,
|
||
MB_STEPPER_DIR_0, MB_STEPPER_PULSE_0, MB_STEPPER_FEEDBACK_0, MB_STEPPER_OVERLOAD_0, MB_STEPPER_ENABLED_0,
|
||
STEPPER_DEFAULT_SPEED_0,
|
||
STEPPER_PULSE_WIDTH_0,
|
||
STEPPER_DEFAULT_DIR_0,
|
||
COMPONENT_KEY_STEPPER_0,
|
||
MB_RW_STEPPER_SPEED_0);
|
||
components.push_back(stepperController_0);
|
||
stepperController_0->setGateway(modbusBridge->getMudbus());
|
||
#endif</code> </span> <span class=chatlog__reply-edited-timestamp title="Thursday, May 9, 2024 8:56 PM">(edited)</span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=vegan_anticucho data-user-id=856898354398494770>Roland</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, May 10, 2024 3:31 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1238302385902846044>5/10/2024 3:31 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Do you have a specific compilation error? In what platform are you trying to compile?
|
||
|
||
In general yes, macros should be avoided.
|
||
|
||
Tomorrow I will take a close look at this</span></div></div></div></div></div>
|
||
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1238385422095351853 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1238385422095351853><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5df5dc97aa08308897ee2dc98ff95264-5AD6D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/7fe3bac75d292d46815d72024d716a27-CC23A.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=vegan_anticucho>Roland</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1238302385902846044')"> Do you have a specific compilation error? In what platform are you trying to compile?
|
||
|
||
In general yes, macros should be avoided.
|
||
|
||
Tomorrow I will take a close look at this </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=azurite0693 data-user-id=1225203510312828950>NoorPro</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, May 10, 2024 9:01 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1238385422095351853>5/10/2024 9:01 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Thank you, don't bother - was just curious about your take on macros and conditional compiling <img
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|
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title="slight_smile"
|
||
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span></div></div></div></div></div>
|
||
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1239319087088144524 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1239319087088144524><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5df5dc97aa08308897ee2dc98ff95264-5AD6D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=azurite0693 data-user-id=1225203510312828950>NoorPro</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, May 12, 2024 10:51 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1239319087088144524>5/12/2024 10:51 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>micro franchising <img
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loading="lazy"
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|
||
alt="🙂"
|
||
title="slight_smile"
|
||
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@duarte_biz_gouveia/video/7352271627180166406">https://www.tiktok.com/@duarte_biz_gouveia/video/7352271627180166406</a></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Sunday, May 12, 2024 10:51 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
|
||
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1242887593167949904 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1242887593167949904><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5df5dc97aa08308897ee2dc98ff95264-5AD6D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=azurite0693 data-user-id=1225203510312828950>NoorPro</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, May 22, 2024 7:11 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1242887593167949904>5/22/2024 7:11 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>random: found finally a good Hugo Theme : <a href="https://mcshelby.github.io/hugo-theme-relearn/shortcodes/openapi/index.html">https://mcshelby.github.io/hugo-theme-relearn/shortcodes/openapi/index.html</a>. That should do for most cases I came across; inter linking fuckery (doxygen jump targets, files ... ) not exactly sexy but can be resolved via hardlinks/vfs/hugo-mounts ...</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Wednesday, May 22, 2024 7:11 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1242887909657280534 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1242887909657280534><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, May 22, 2024 7:12 PM">7:12 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>And still, a custom language (DSL) works better in the long run though, CMS agnostic <img
|
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|
||
alt="🙂"
|
||
title="slight_smile"
|
||
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Wednesday, May 22, 2024 7:12 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
|
||
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1255898447484157952 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1255898447484157952><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5df5dc97aa08308897ee2dc98ff95264-5AD6D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=azurite0693 data-user-id=1225203510312828950>NoorPro</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, June 27, 2024 4:52 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1255898447484157952>6/27/2024 4:52 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>random stuff</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/array-2x1-AD5D1.jpg> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/array-2x1-AD5D1.jpg alt="Image attachment" title="Image: array-2x1.jpg (121.32 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/DSC02541-99EAE.JPG> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/DSC02541-99EAE.JPG alt="Image attachment" title="Image: DSC02541.JPG (170.92 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/DSC02544-B6870.JPG> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/DSC02544-B6870.JPG alt="Image attachment" title="Image: DSC02544.JPG (230.3 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/DSC02579-B14FE.jpg> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/DSC02579-B14FE.jpg alt="Image attachment" title="Image: DSC02579.jpg (208.09 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/DSC02590-D09D2.JPG> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/DSC02590-D09D2.JPG alt="Image attachment" title="Image: DSC02590.JPG (228.13 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/DSC02606-BDFD7.JPG> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/DSC02606-BDFD7.JPG alt="Image attachment" title="Image: DSC02606.JPG (261.21 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/l38-ex-D749B.jpg> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/l38-ex-D749B.jpg alt="Image attachment" title="Image: l38-ex.jpg (604.66 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/perspective-bare-CD862.jpg> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/perspective-bare-CD862.jpg alt="Image attachment" title="Image: perspective-bare.jpg (428.73 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1255898635292377179 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1255898635292377179><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, June 27, 2024 4:52 PM">4:52 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>and for no other reason than fucking around with industrial CAD software</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-39D97.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-39D97.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (350.11 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1255898847415111701 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1255898847415111701><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, June 27, 2024 4:53 PM">4:53 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>#scratchingthesurface <img
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|
||
alt="🙂"
|
||
title="slight_smile"
|
||
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span></div></div></div></div></div>
|
||
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1256691492857315411 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1256691492857315411><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5df5dc97aa08308897ee2dc98ff95264-5AD6D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=azurite0693 data-user-id=1225203510312828950>NoorPro</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, June 29, 2024 9:23 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1256691492857315411>6/29/2024 9:23 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Getting there, AI aided content creation,
|
||
|
||
input : file (custom DSL) :
|
||
<code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--multiline nohighlight">[%capture continents %]
|
||
[% osr-ai model:"gpt-4o" skip:false gui:true logLevel:"trace" filters:"code" %]
|
||
List all continents, as json, , add a field with all countries, as array [% osr-ai-end %]
|
||
[% endcapture %]
|
||
|
||
``json
|
||
[[continents]]
|
||
``
|
||
|
||
## Continents
|
||
|
||
[% osr-ai model:"gpt-4o" skip:true gui:true logLevel:"warn" filters:"code" %]
|
||
List all continents (including russia), as markdown table, columns :
|
||
|
||
- population
|
||
- total gdp
|
||
- at war or involved in war
|
||
- religion
|
||
- number of US bases
|
||
- debts
|
||
[% osr-ai-end %]
|
||
|
||
## Africa
|
||
|
||
[% osr-ai model:"gpt-4o" skip:true gui:true logLevel:"warn" filters:"code" %]
|
||
List all countries in Africa, as markdown table, columns :
|
||
|
||
- population
|
||
- total gdp
|
||
- at war or involved in war
|
||
- religion
|
||
- number of US bases
|
||
- debts
|
||
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[% osr-ai-end %]</code></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Saturday, June 29, 2024 9:24 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1256691631407632414 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1256691631407632414><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, June 29, 2024 9:23 PM">9:23 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Output : <a href="https://git.osr-plastic.org/osr-plastic/osrl/src/branch/master/tests/osr-ai/open-ai-test.out.md">https://git.osr-plastic.org/osr-plastic/osrl/src/branch/master/tests/osr-ai/open-ai-test.out.md</a>
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Did Europeans ever act in good faith towards Africans? That’s the question asked in this clip by former Big Brother Africa 9 contestant-turned-social media commentator @samanthajannsen - responding to an accusation of hate in the comments.
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For 500 years, Africa has received the short end of the stick - starting with sla...</div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-fields><div class="chatlog__embed-field chatlog__embed-field--inline"><div class=chatlog__embed-field-name><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Likes</div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-field-value><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">6908</div></div></div></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-footer><img class=chatlog__embed-footer-icon src=media-ose/68d99ba29cc8-B525E.png alt="Footer icon" loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__embed-footer-text> Instagram </span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1262542260923400323 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1262542260923400323><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5df5dc97aa08308897ee2dc98ff95264-5AD6D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=azurite0693 data-user-id=1225203510312828950>NoorPro</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, July 16, 2024 12:52 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1262542260923400323>7/16/2024 12:52 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>random stuff <img
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library : <a href="https://files.osr-plastic.org/files/osr-machines/">https://files.osr-plastic.org/files/osr-machines/</a>
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#unlearn-all</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/SCD20-40-120-Test-F84F2.jpg> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/SCD20-40-120-Test-F84F2.jpg alt="Image attachment" title="Image: SCD20-40-120-Test.jpg (614.5 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/perspective-edc-test-00B9A.jpg> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/perspective-edc-test-00B9A.jpg alt="Image attachment" title="Image: perspective-edc-test.jpg (556.91 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/perspective-max-7085B.jpg> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/perspective-max-7085B.jpg alt="Image attachment" title="Image: perspective-max.jpg (688.86 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/perspective-max-55D88.jpg> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/perspective-max-55D88.jpg alt="Image attachment" title="Image: perspective-max.jpg (717.21 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1273581821203972176 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1273581821203972176><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/86fb79a65690dd42b37144bad2a534d9-B324D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=bilimage data-user-id=868985692754165770>Derailed Lifes</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, August 15, 2024 11:59 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1273581821203972176>8/15/2024 11:59 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>alrighty, that will be my last post for the next 12 months, let us know if you guys want to help one day,
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latest version of Jason's sheetpress, probably the only design which ever came out of PreciousPlastic, with market fit : <a href="https://files.osr-plastic.org/files/osr-machines/sheetpress/cassandra-edczmax-rc1/">https://files.osr-plastic.org/files/osr-machines/sheetpress/cassandra-edczmax-rc1/</a>, another 110cm version is in progress. With a bit luck, we can win at least the battle in the class room, and for small businesses, ... <a href="https://git.osr-plastic.org/osr-plastic/osr-edu-kit/src/branch/master/designs/renderings/spc-stacked-test.jpg">https://git.osr-plastic.org/osr-plastic/osr-edu-kit/src/branch/master/designs/renderings/spc-stacked-test.jpg</a>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1276495800687661118 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1276495800687661118><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, August 23, 2024 12:58 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1276495800687661118>8/23/2024 12:58 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Don't you have anything better to do with your time, Guenter?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1276496094741790781 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1276496094741790781><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/def5e0a7ff07e73d477a87df10a3dc4f-BFBB1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(153,45,34) title=Arcane#7800 data-user-id=437808476106784770>Arcane</span> <span class=chatlog__author-tag>BOT</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, August 23, 2024 12:59 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1276496094741790781>8/23/2024 12:59 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="amicable_clarkson_17">@freedomfighters</span> has reached level <strong>1</strong>. GG!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1276503524129247254 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1276503524129247254><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/def5e0a7ff07e73d477a87df10a3dc4f-BFBB1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(153,45,34) title=Arcane#7800 data-user-id=437808476106784770>Arcane</span> <span class=chatlog__author-tag>BOT</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, August 23, 2024 1:29 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1276503524129247254>8/23/2024 1:29 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="amicable_clarkson_17">@freedomfighters</span> has reached level <strong>2</strong>. GG!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1276504992223723623 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1276504992223723623><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, August 23, 2024 1:35 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1276504992223723623>8/23/2024 1:35 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I don't know if anyone has told you this yet, but this isn't the precious plastic discord server. As far as anyone I've spoken to can tell, nobody here cares about your beef with them - nor most of your other word vomit either for that matter. If you're genuinely looking for advice, mine would be for you to go find a different corner of the internet to make noise in. On this discord server we are focused on Open Source Ecology and related projects. Nothing you have posted here has furthered the aims of this community or contributed anything useful to the conversation.
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I'll ask again - don't you have anything better to do with your time?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1276583898515767317 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1276583898515767317><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, August 23, 2024 6:48 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1276583898515767317>8/23/2024 6:48 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="amicable_clarkson_17">@freedomfighters</span> Maybe every single thing you’re saying is true. That still doesn’t make this Discord server the place to air everything out. Go find some other place to stand on your soapbox and make a fuss about it.</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=nauseated_face><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=🤢 src=media-ose/1f922-92B0C.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1276584222886199348 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1276584222886199348><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, August 23, 2024 6:49 PM">6:49 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I can give you one reason</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=question><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=❓ src=media-ose/2753-7C696.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1278718382174240849 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1278718382174240849><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/3-FB033.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=krokolosoy1173 data-user-id=974232018411999242>mozzard</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, August 29, 2024 4:10 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1278718382174240849>8/29/2024 4:10 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>whilst at it, say hello multi-agent architectures, and good bye to static content, wikis, logo design, centralized platforms, ... - perhaps a great template for OSE / Marcin <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1278812934545604699 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1278812934545604699><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/3-FB033.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=krokolosoy1173>mozzard</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1278718382174240849')"> whilst at it, say hello multi-agent architectures, and good bye to static content, wikis, logo design, centralized platforms, ... - perhaps a great template for OSE / Marcin <img
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<a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@lizthedeveloper/video/7406770571981147434">https://www.tiktok.com/@lizthedeveloper/video/7406770571981147434</a> </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=303adastra data-user-id=457390086879969280>303adastra</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, August 29, 2024 10:26 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1278812934545604699>8/29/2024 10:26 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://youtu.be/pjT3zhS1YGo">https://youtu.be/pjT3zhS1YGo</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIW4KKF-t-UPgocUUdH2bTA><div class=chatlog__embed-author>iTyqr</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjT3zhS1YGo"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Let’s invent a thing invented said the thing invented invented afte...</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/pjT3zhS1YGo width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=heart><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=❤️ src=media-ose/2764-A3D25.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div><div class=chatlog__reaction title=man_shrugging><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=🤷♂️ src=media-ose/1f937-200d-2642-fe0f-7AA71.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1280456346730500167 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1280456346730500167><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/4-4551A.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=pmangatq0238 data-user-id=977717870379278356>curiousalbert</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, September 3, 2024 11:16 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1280456346730500167>9/3/2024 11:16 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>can anyone apply ? <a href="https://menlovc.com/anthology-fund-application/">https://menlovc.com/anthology-fund-application/</a> - we need around 1M+ just to fully integrate AI, as OS extensions, assisting in R&D, manufacturing, ... here a bit more background : <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@nate.b.jones/video/7392801770000403743">https://www.tiktok.com/@nate.b.jones/video/7392801770000403743</a>
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tests looking good so far : <a href="https://git.osr-plastic.org/osr-plastic/osr-ai/src/branch/master/tests/chatgpt">https://git.osr-plastic.org/osr-plastic/osr-ai/src/branch/master/tests/chatgpt</a> |
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bottlenecks: context window, missing flexibility to compose new models, with customizable 'expert archtitecture'
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remember, we're not here to play, but to help <img
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src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://menlovc.com/anthology-fund-application/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Anthology Fund Application - Menlo Ventures</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">The Anthology Fund is a $100M initiative between Menlo Ventures and Anthropic to fund the next generation of AI startups.</div></div></div></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.tiktok.com/@nate.b.jones/video/7392801770000403743><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">TikTok · Nate</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">1313 likes, 48 comments. “I’m curious who applies for this”</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/ogDIkINgx8GGHCzBAtqBQeIoLIAj0GMMeknYeQ~tpl-17C84.jpeg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/ogDIkINgx8GGHCzBAtqBQeIoLIAj0GMMeknYeQ~tpl-17C84.jpeg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1280456347791396937 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1280456347791396937><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/def5e0a7ff07e73d477a87df10a3dc4f-BFBB1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(153,45,34) title=Arcane#7800 data-user-id=437808476106784770>Arcane</span> <span class=chatlog__author-tag>BOT</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, September 3, 2024 11:16 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1280456347791396937>9/3/2024 11:16 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="pmangatq0238">@curiousalbert</span> has reached level <strong>3</strong>. GG!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1280457503951425557 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1280457503951425557><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/4-4551A.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=pmangatq0238 data-user-id=977717870379278356>curiousalbert</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, September 3, 2024 11:20 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1280457503951425557>9/3/2024 11:20 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>here another example, <a href="https://git.osr-plastic.org/osr-plastic/osrl/src/branch/master/tests/osr-ai/osr-search">https://git.osr-plastic.org/osr-plastic/osrl/src/branch/master/tests/osr-ai/osr-search</a>
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<code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--multiline language-md">[% assign area = "Sentmenat" %]
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[% assign location = "(Spain, Barcelona)" %]
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[% osr-ai model:"gpt-4o" cache:false gui:false logLevel:"warn" filters:"code,JSONParse" dst:"${SRC_DIR}/${SRC_NAME}-sentmenat.json" assign:"areas" %]
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- List 20 'polygonos' (industrial areas) next to [[area]] [[location]]
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- as json array
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[% osr-ai-end %]
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[%- for area_item in areas %]
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## [[area_item]]
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[%- capture area_query -%]
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List essential geo data [[area_item]] [[location]], as Markdown bullet list, with links, dont add a chapter:
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- Link to Google Maps
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- Link to Wikipedia
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- Size of Population
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- type of industries
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- Next major city / town
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- Distance to [[area]] [[location]] (in kilometers)
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[%- endcapture -%]
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[%- osr-ai model:"gpt-4o" cache:false gui:true logLevel:"warn" filters:"code" assign:"area_result" -%]
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[[-area_query-]]
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[[-area_result-]]
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[%- endfor -%]</code>
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generating leads, preferably validated using RAG (google map scraper), via right click, in any document, as template <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1281271521981108338 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1281271521981108338><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/7fe3bac75d292d46815d72024d716a27-CC23A.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/5df5dc97aa08308897ee2dc98ff95264-5AD6D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=azurite0693>NoorPro</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1239319087088144524')"> micro franchising <img
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src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@duarte_biz_gouveia/video/7352271627180166406">https://www.tiktok.com/@duarte_biz_gouveia/video/7352271627180166406</a> </span> <span class=chatlog__reply-edited-timestamp title="Sunday, May 12, 2024 10:51 PM">(edited)</span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=vegan_anticucho data-user-id=856898354398494770>Roland</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, September 5, 2024 5:15 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1281271521981108338>9/5/2024 5:15 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Interesting, do you know of any such business open for micro franchising right now?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1281278598925389834 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1281278598925389834><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/4-4551A.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=pmangatq0238 data-user-id=977717870379278356>curiousalbert</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, September 5, 2024 5:43 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1281278598925389834>9/5/2024 5:43 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>not per se but I bet any business next to you is, that might include the competition, or just suppliers in the chain</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1281278953595605024 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1281278953595605024><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, September 5, 2024 5:45 PM">5:45 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>took me a while to figure that 'sales' shouldnt be the center of the company though, going after the client's success will pay out better, that's how I understood at least <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1281282249370763382 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1281282249370763382><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/4-4551A.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=pmangatq0238 data-user-id=977717870379278356>curiousalbert</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, September 5, 2024 5:58 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1281282249370763382>9/5/2024 5:58 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>here another great coach for that matter, a bit more straight forward, he mentioned platforms to buy business (THE gold receipt) instead : <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@robertcroakofficial/video/7365679826302225710?_r=1&_t=8pTJvlrV4in">https://www.tiktok.com/@robertcroakofficial/video/7365679826302225710?_r=1&_t=8pTJvlrV4in</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(254,44,85,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.tiktok.com/@robertcroakofficial/video/7365679826302225710?_r=1&_t=8pTJvlrV4in"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">TikTok · ROBERT CROAK</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">5992 likes, 823 comments. “#CapCut Daily business, mindset and lifestyle hacks to help you achieve financial freedom!”</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/play-icon-large.png%3A%3A%3A%3A%3A-19652.jpeg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/play-icon-large.png%3A%3A%3A%3A%3A-19652.jpeg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1283064291003600968 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1283064291003600968><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/4-4551A.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=pmangatq0238 data-user-id=977717870379278356>curiousalbert</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, September 10, 2024 3:59 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1283064291003600968>9/10/2024 3:59 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Sweet little dive into Operating Systems, <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41490290">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41490290</a> | NT vs Unix - OSs occupy a full semester computer science, in germany, happy to have that skipped as well <img
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src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,102,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><div class=chatlog__embed-author>LorenDB</div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41490290"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Windows NT vs. Unix: A design comparison</div></a></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-footer><img class=chatlog__embed-footer-icon src=media-ose/y18-27627.gif alt="Footer icon" loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__embed-footer-text> Hacker News • 9/9/2024 6:37 PM </span></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1283064363778838649 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1283064363778838649><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, September 10, 2024 3:59 PM">3:59 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>#goodtobelatesometimes</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1283064721209032744 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1283064721209032744><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, September 10, 2024 4:01 PM">4:01 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>digging 10 years into oshw, maker stuff by now, OSHW certainly deserves an entire OS <img
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src="media-ose/1f483-F1B1B.svg"></span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1283410069123498047 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1283410069123498047><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/58231ee17e494ed3df6d92b36cb74ffa-21F25.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=bambukah data-user-id=337476863804964875>Bambukah</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, September 11, 2024 2:53 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1283410069123498047>9/11/2024 2:53 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Me and my friend think about create a fully OpenSource coffee/espresso machine. But before that, we need to find a solution to recycle coffee grounds. My friend created a really good coffee house and we need to find the best ecological solution to re-use ~100kg of coffee grounds per week</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1283539883138486353 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1283539883138486353><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/58231ee17e494ed3df6d92b36cb74ffa-21F25.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=bambukah>Bambukah</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1283410069123498047')"> Me and my friend think about create a fully OpenSource coffee/espresso machine. But before that, we need to find a solution to recycle coffee grounds. My friend created a really good coffee house and we need to find the best ecological solution to re-use ~100kg of coffee grounds per week </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=303adastra data-user-id=457390086879969280>303adastra</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, September 11, 2024 11:29 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1283539883138486353>9/11/2024 11:29 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>coffee grinds are great; they don't even need to be composted - they can just go directly in your garden beds!</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=thumbsup><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=👍 src=media-ose/1f44d-27259.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div><div class=chatlog__reaction title=heart><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=❤️ src=media-ose/2764-A3D25.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1283540272852107284 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1283540272852107284><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, September 11, 2024 11:30 PM">11:30 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>They can also be used to make 3D printer filament <a href="https://youtu.be/zTu9zhU3Xck">https://youtu.be/zTu9zhU3Xck</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCiczXOhGpvoQGhOL16EZiTg><div class=chatlog__embed-author>CNC Kitchen</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTu9zhU3Xck"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">I made COFFEE 3D Printing FILAMENT</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/zTu9zhU3Xck width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1284087582384328704 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1284087582384328704><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/58231ee17e494ed3df6d92b36cb74ffa-21F25.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=303adastra>303adastra</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1283539883138486353')"> coffee grinds are great; they don't even need to be composted - they can just go directly in your garden beds! </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=bambukah data-user-id=337476863804964875>Bambukah</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, September 13, 2024 11:45 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1284087582384328704>9/13/2024 11:45 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>the 3d filament is AWESOME !</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=coffee><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=☕ src=media-ose/2615-17F2E.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1284087740157136966 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1284087740157136966><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, September 13, 2024 11:46 AM">11:46 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I made some comfort tools for disabled people. If I can made this with coffee grounds recycled filament... it's so great ! Thank you so much !</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=heart><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=❤️ src=media-ose/2764-A3D25.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>2</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1285566684341604373 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1285566684341604373><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/4-4551A.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/58231ee17e494ed3df6d92b36cb74ffa-21F25.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=bambukah>Bambukah</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1283410069123498047')"> Me and my friend think about create a fully OpenSource coffee/espresso machine. But before that, we need to find a solution to recycle coffee grounds. My friend created a really good coffee house and we need to find the best ecological solution to re-use ~100kg of coffee grounds per week </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=pmangatq0238 data-user-id=977717870379278356>curiousalbert</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, September 17, 2024 1:43 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1285566684341604373>9/17/2024 1:43 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>neat, OS PID controller remains still a pending story, I'd love to have one with touchscreen, num/keypad, modbus, ... for extruders, sheetpresses (multi ramp)
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<ul><li><a href="https://github.com/CoffeeTronics/Arduino-PID-Controller-for-Espresso-V2.0/tree/master">https://github.com/CoffeeTronics/Arduino-PID-Controller-for-Espresso-V2.0/tree/master</a></li><li><a href="https://git.osr-plastic.org/osr-plastic/osr-firmware/src/branch/master/pid">https://git.osr-plastic.org/osr-plastic/osr-firmware/src/branch/master/pid</a></li><li><a href="http://ospid.com/blog/">http://ospid.com/blog/</a></li></ul></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Tuesday, September 17, 2024 1:47 PM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(30,35,39,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://github.com/CoffeeTronics/Arduino-PID-Controller-for-Espresso-V2.0/tree/master><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">GitHub - CoffeeTronics/Arduino-PID-Controller-for-Espresso-V2.0</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Contribute to CoffeeTronics/Arduino-PID-Controller-for-Espresso-V2.0 development by creating an account on GitHub.</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/Arduino-PID-Controller-for-Espresso-V2-215B9.0> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/Arduino-PID-Controller-for-Espresso-V2-215B9.0 alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1285566864302411806 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1285566864302411806><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, September 17, 2024 1:43 PM">1:43 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>ESP seems to be a nice board though, still didnt manage to debug stuff properly <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1297040155437432872 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1297040155437432872><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, October 19, 2024 5:34 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1297040155437432872>10/19/2024 5:34 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I am making plans to begin a makerspace in my local community.
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<span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="303adastra">@303adastra</span> and I discussed the possibility of starting at the scale of a trailer full of tools that could be used for creating a mobile makerspace. The purpose of that would be to save on rent for a commercial space. Additionally, it would make the operation portable to do on-site jobs like house building, machine repair, events, community workshops, etc.
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Napkin math for rich case:
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$6,000 - 8'x20' enclosed trailer (Not strict on size, but this size is preferred)
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$5,000 - Two (2) 1m^3 build volume D3D Mega printers (This is the BOM cost)
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$2,400 - Two Precious Plastic basic shredders
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$2,400 - Four Lyman Filament Extruders (<a href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Lyman_Filament_Extruder)">https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Lyman_Filament_Extruder)</a>
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$1,000 - Miscellaneous hand and power tools (Bandsaw, welder, drill press, benchtop grinder, vise, clamps, hand saw, screwdrivers, soldering iron, etc.)
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$16,800</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Lyman_Filament_Extruder><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Lyman Filament Extruder</div></a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1297040349822324789 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1297040349822324789><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, October 19, 2024 5:35 AM">5:35 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Probable case:
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$1,000 cheapest enclosed trailer I can get
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$0 - whatever tools I have on hand</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1297045555280613420 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1297045555280613420><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, October 19, 2024 5:55 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1297045555280613420>10/19/2024 5:55 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>The primary function of the tools would be to have a closed-loop manufacturing system in a box. Recycling systems are not capturing anywhere near as much plastic as is being created. The above tools can be used to convert household plastic waste (pop/soda bottles, milk jugs, shampoo bottles, etc) into either 3D printer filament or plastic pellets. These recycled materials can then either be used as feedstock for the 3D printers or sold as a raw material.</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1297046896065511444 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1297046896065511444><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, October 19, 2024 6:01 AM">6:01 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>The trailer becomes a "Makerspace" by how one uses it. In the rich case, the trailer is the mobile workshop, so you can go out to where people are and let them use or borrow the tools as is needed. In the more probable case, the tools are taken to a location where they can be safely used by the community.</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1297047058334613587 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1297047058334613587><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, October 19, 2024 6:01 AM">6:01 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Basically, as long at the people have regular access to the tools it's a Makerspace.</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1297047597516722186 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1297047597516722186><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, October 19, 2024 6:04 AM">6:04 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>The most mutually beneficial relationship I can imagine would be the access to the tools is free so long as you bring whatever plastic recycleables as you can in exchange. (clean please! lol)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1297074244898787341 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1297074244898787341><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/0e0411d4c4583d4597ac4ed846393944-385DB.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich>Alexa</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1297040155437432872')"> I am making plans to begin a makerspace in my local community.
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<span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="303adastra">@303adastra</span> and I discussed the possibility of starting at the scale of a trailer full of tools that could be used for creating a mobile makerspace. The purpose of that would be to save on rent for a commercial space. Additionally, it would make the operation portable to do on-site jobs like house building, machine repair, events, community workshops, etc.
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Napkin math for rich case:
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$6,000 - 8'x20' enclosed trailer (Not strict on size, but this size is preferred)
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$5,000 - Two (2) 1m^3 build volume D3D Mega printers (This is the BOM cost)
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$2,400 - Two Precious Plastic basic shredders
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$2,400 - Four Lyman Filament Extruders (<a href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Lyman_Filament_Extruder)">https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Lyman_Filament_Extruder)</a>
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$1,000 - Miscellaneous hand and power tools (Bandsaw, welder, drill press, benchtop grinder, vise, clamps, hand saw, screwdrivers, soldering iron, etc.)
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$16,800 </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=hal_9000_90_99 data-user-id=749466797799112745>HAL_9000</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, October 19, 2024 7:49 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1297074244898787341>10/19/2024 7:49 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Not sure about the lyman extruder but the shredder at 1200 might be a bit of a tight budget depending on motor HP. I know even a used reducer is about 500.00</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1297074819564568577 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1297074819564568577><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, October 19, 2024 7:52 AM">7:52 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>You are going to need mobile power ( generator ? ) yeah?</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1297075001660280913 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1297075001660280913><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, October 19, 2024 7:52 AM">7:52 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>What about a gutted used RV with power hookups?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1297111087715717130 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1297111087715717130><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, October 19, 2024 10:16 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1297111087715717130>10/19/2024 10:16 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>pp basic shredder wants at least 2-3 kw, and good auto-reverse; thats alone 2.5k - you can also share the drive instead to the extruder, 'Zoe' was pretty popular, til the Mafia takeover : <a href="https://forum.osr-plastic.org/t/extrusion-shredder-combo-zoe/10184">https://forum.osr-plastic.org/t/extrusion-shredder-combo-zoe/10184</a></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Saturday, October 19, 2024 10:23 AM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1297111739497975819 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1297111739497975819><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, October 19, 2024 10:18 AM">10:18 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>as alternative, you can run the light version, more likely with a belt drive @ 500w :<a href="https://forum.osr-plastic.org/t/osr-shredder-v3-1-light/10166">https://forum.osr-plastic.org/t/osr-shredder-v3-1-light/10166</a> - works flawless
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#weneedmoredemos</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Saturday, October 19, 2024 10:24 AM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1297180150038921276 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1297180150038921276><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, October 19, 2024 2:50 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1297180150038921276>10/19/2024 2:50 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>here btw. the specs of the mini osr-edu kit, mainly for educational purposes, in depth <img
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<a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1thPayondLk4g-YOCgwzTMt5DZJ-rKoJUNDWLbOjAR1w/edit?usp=sharing">https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1thPayondLk4g-YOCgwzTMt5DZJ-rKoJUNDWLbOjAR1w/edit?usp=sharing</a>
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not sure I will complete it - be my guest if you want</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Saturday, October 19, 2024 2:51 PM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1thPayondLk4g-YOCgwzTMt5DZJ-rKoJUNDWLbOjAR1w/edit?usp=sharing"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">q1</div></a></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/AHkbwyJBhJg16DyCkqUeJQUqHkIOhdgzkwDkt6bj-q-4644E> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/AHkbwyJBhJg16DyCkqUeJQUqHkIOhdgzkwDkt6bj-q-4644E alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1297184207893823618 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1297184207893823618><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, October 19, 2024 3:06 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1297184207893823618>10/19/2024 3:06 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>The lucky winner completing this can be proud; providing a complete, robust, class-room/lab, market grade modular kit, with in-depth insights into latest OS tech stacks (documentation, support, firmware .. templates), aka 'we can' <img
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src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> - I am sure this will not just credibility but also value to all our beloved long-term investors, <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="katharinaelleke">@katharinaelleke</span>, ...</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Saturday, October 19, 2024 3:29 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1297184466527060040 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1297184466527060040><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, October 19, 2024 3:07 PM">3:07 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>perhaps more a thing for kick-starter as well</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1297193930487763064 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1297193930487763064><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, October 19, 2024 3:45 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1297193930487763064>10/19/2024 3:45 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>#walkingthelastmiles <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1297223247728742460 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1297223247728742460><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/0e0411d4c4583d4597ac4ed846393944-385DB.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=karen_fi501_13984>Guinea Pig</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1297111087715717130')"> pp basic shredder wants at least 2-3 kw, and good auto-reverse; thats alone 2.5k - you can also share the drive instead to the extruder, 'Zoe' was pretty popular, til the Mafia takeover : <a href="https://forum.osr-plastic.org/t/extrusion-shredder-combo-zoe/10184">https://forum.osr-plastic.org/t/extrusion-shredder-combo-zoe/10184</a> </span> <span class=chatlog__reply-edited-timestamp title="Saturday, October 19, 2024 10:23 AM">(edited)</span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=hal_9000_90_99 data-user-id=749466797799112745>HAL_9000</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, October 19, 2024 5:42 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1297223247728742460>10/19/2024 5:42 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Do you have any links to photo's showing real life units ( not cad renderings )?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1297230678445785128 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1297230678445785128><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, October 19, 2024 6:11 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1297230678445785128>10/19/2024 6:11 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>not quite yet, just made my way through the prototypes; as mentioned, not sure I will actually finish this, even though 6 years went into this <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1297250424922837083 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1297250424922837083><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/0e0411d4c4583d4597ac4ed846393944-385DB.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=karen_fi501_13984>Guinea Pig</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1297230678445785128')"> not quite yet, just made my way through the prototypes; as mentioned, not sure I will actually finish this, even though 6 years went into this <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1297255527033602068 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1297255527033602068><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, October 19, 2024 7:50 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1297255527033602068>10/19/2024 7:50 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>injector : a nice maker, somewhere in germany, extruder: material researcher, sheetpress: a firm investigating post industrial waste <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298176413790109706 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298176413790109706><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, October 22, 2024 8:49 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1298176413790109706>10/22/2024 8:49 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Thought I’d share my work on my business model canvas for my business. Main sources of revenue will come from machine sales, workshop ticket sales, events/vendor show sales, and 3D print commissions.</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/IMG_4295-C4064.jpg> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/IMG_4295-C4064.jpg alt="Image attachment" title="Image: IMG_4295.jpg (924.51 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298177038024183869 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298177038024183869><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, October 22, 2024 8:52 AM">8:52 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Looking to provide programming in my existing local community centers that educates people on how to make their own 3D models. After that they’re going to be looking for ways to get ahold of their creations so they’ll likely be in the market for machines and or commissions.</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298177401116819518 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298177401116819518><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, October 22, 2024 8:53 AM">8:53 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I have the dual effect of providing free or low cost training to the community to increase the skills of my community members but I also build local awareness of my business in the process</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298177992597438556 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298177992597438556><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, October 22, 2024 8:55 AM">8:55 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>This is the core of an open source business model - giving away the information for free (libre and gratis), but the experience of in person training and the materials are not free of charge.</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298178276182851635 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298178276182851635><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, October 22, 2024 8:57 AM">8:57 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Maybe a pay what you want community 3D modeling course where the amount you pay determines the size or number of 3D prints you get to do as part of the class.</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298179046873759775 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298179046873759775><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, October 22, 2024 9:00 AM">9:00 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Nothing I have to teach is deeper than a properly worded web search could provide, but having that information condensed into a training with an in person instructor is valuable</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298180056253993042 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298180056253993042><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, October 22, 2024 9:04 AM">9:04 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>The events/vendor fairs would likely only occur if I partner with another business or individual who has a specific niche that they know well that can benefit from 3D printing. There are a lot of hobbies and arts that can benefit, for example.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298180273145516043 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298180273145516043><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich>Alexa</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1298176413790109706')"> Thought I’d share my work on my business model canvas for my business. Main sources of revenue will come from machine sales, workshop ticket sales, events/vendor show sales, and 3D print commissions. </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, October 22, 2024 9:04 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1298180273145516043>10/22/2024 9:04 AM</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/1298176413790109706remix-1729580694568-5B099.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/1298176413790109706remix-1729580694568-5B099.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: 1298176413790109706remix-1729580694568.png (815.33 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298180324685123616 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298180324685123616><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, October 22, 2024 9:05 AM">9:05 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Rotated for easier reading</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298180488179089428 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298180488179089428><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, October 22, 2024 9:05 AM">9:05 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>The YMCA, Library, Economic Development Alliance, etc are all potential collaborators</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298180791964274698 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298180791964274698><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, October 22, 2024 9:06 AM">9:06 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Part of what I am attempting to do with this business is to carry it as far as it can go on fully open source hardware and software.</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298181655508549674 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298181655508549674><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, October 22, 2024 9:10 AM">9:10 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I’m a firm believer that everyone should have equal access to economically significant information. I’m going to continue to release business information and products under fully open source licenses.</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298182317709332501 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298182317709332501><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, October 22, 2024 9:13 AM">9:13 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Since you have read this far I invite you to join me in developing the business model and fleshing it out into its finer details</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=tada><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=🎉 src=media-ose/1f389-5C738.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>2</span></div><div class=chatlog__reaction title=muscle><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=💪 src=media-ose/1f4aa-2FD27.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>2</span></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298182829422936085 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298182829422936085><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, October 22, 2024 9:15 AM">9:15 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Ideally, I’d like to be able to model the entire business from business plan down into an operations manual for every process</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298187125648392232 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298187125648392232><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, October 22, 2024 9:32 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1298187125648392232>10/22/2024 9:32 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Here’s where I’m working on the business model: <a href="https://github.com/OpenSourceMfg/osm-business-model">https://github.com/OpenSourceMfg/osm-business-model</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(30,35,39,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://github.com/OpenSourceMfg/osm-business-model><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">GitHub - OpenSourceMfg/osm-business-model: The business model for O...</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">The business model for Open Source Manufacturing LLC - OpenSourceMfg/osm-business-model</div></div></div></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=eyes><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=👀 src=media-ose/1f440-6C64D.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298690215644495912 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298690215644495912><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich>Alexa</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1298187125648392232')"> Here’s where I’m working on the business model: <a href="https://github.com/OpenSourceMfg/osm-business-model">https://github.com/OpenSourceMfg/osm-business-model</a> </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, October 23, 2024 6:51 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1298690215644495912>10/23/2024 6:51 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Interesting, there's indeed plenty of room for good coaching, OS tools as solution (lnx became a mess), ... will look into it - thanks for sharing</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298690944287248446 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298690944287248446><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, October 23, 2024 6:54 PM">6:54 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>leaving this here for inspiration : <a href="https://files.polymech.io/files/machines/injection/elena-zmax-rc1/">https://files.polymech.io/files/machines/injection/elena-zmax-rc1/</a> (firmware upgrade for motor option is missing, ...)
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Viola, hopefully the last iteration <img
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the machine was once our so called MVP (50+ builds) - still, I think the $$ spend better somewhere else</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Wednesday, October 23, 2024 7:47 PM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/DSC01641-A1131.JPG> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/DSC01641-A1131.JPG alt="Image attachment" title="Image: DSC01641.JPG (214.29 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/DSC03137-03D95.JPG> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/DSC03137-03D95.JPG alt="Image attachment" title="Image: DSC03137.JPG (163.72 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/DSC03125-76B14.JPG> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/DSC03125-76B14.JPG alt="Image attachment" title="Image: DSC03125.JPG (191.01 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/DSC03127-A5126.JPG> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/DSC03127-A5126.JPG alt="Image attachment" title="Image: DSC03127.JPG (179.01 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298691339868831775 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298691339868831775><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich>Alexa</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1298187125648392232')"> Here’s where I’m working on the business model: <a href="https://github.com/OpenSourceMfg/osm-business-model">https://github.com/OpenSourceMfg/osm-business-model</a> </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, October 23, 2024 6:55 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1298691339868831775>10/23/2024 6:55 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>forget about 'business models' - I think that became an outdated construct as well; you're looking for a 'business blueprint' (architecture, services, ...) instead; something that gives results fast, faster than 6 months planning, ... folks do A/B testing of ideas on social media before producing anything</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Wednesday, October 23, 2024 7:32 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298698505526968394 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298698505526968394><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, October 23, 2024 7:24 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1298698505526968394>10/23/2024 7:24 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>here btw a sweet small business in the states, building their own injector : <a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/Cv4T64LAnPJ/">https://www.instagram.com/p/Cv4T64LAnPJ/</a> - dead on, they put a valve in place later on as well</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298707694441463931 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298707694441463931><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=karen_fi501_13984>Guinea Pig</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1298691339868831775')"> forget about 'business models' - I think that became an outdated construct as well; you're looking for a 'business blueprint' (architecture, services, ...) instead; something that gives results fast, faster than 6 months planning, ... folks do A/B testing of ideas on social media before producing anything </span> <span class=chatlog__reply-edited-timestamp title="Wednesday, October 23, 2024 7:32 PM">(edited)</span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=303adastra data-user-id=457390086879969280>303adastra</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, October 23, 2024 8:00 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1298707694441463931>10/23/2024 8:00 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I think what <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="saphnich">@Alexa</span>'s trying to do is model the "business blueprint"</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298708058431553566 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298708058431553566><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=karen_fi501_13984>Guinea Pig</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1298691339868831775')"> forget about 'business models' - I think that became an outdated construct as well; you're looking for a 'business blueprint' (architecture, services, ...) instead; something that gives results fast, faster than 6 months planning, ... folks do A/B testing of ideas on social media before producing anything </span> <span class=chatlog__reply-edited-timestamp title="Wednesday, October 23, 2024 7:32 PM">(edited)</span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, October 23, 2024 8:02 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1298708058431553566>10/23/2024 8:02 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>The business model will be the root of the operations manual eventually - the whole business’ processes/procedures, SOPs, etc will all stem from the core “model”</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298708233619378207 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298708233619378207><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, October 23, 2024 8:02 PM">8:02 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Like <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="303adastra">@303adastra</span> said, I’m trying to model the blueprint and the “model” part comes from how I’m documenting it in this case</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298708722524098645 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298708722524098645><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, October 23, 2024 8:04 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1298708722524098645>10/23/2024 8:04 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>right, will have a look at it - by services and blue print I rather referred to the tech involved - as mentioned earlier - we should become good architects, good business owners just replicate the system - so you're not failing that hard though - ideally its just copy & paste, from product/service to the next - at least thats how I understood it from the coaches</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Wednesday, October 23, 2024 8:05 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298709339527446650 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298709339527446650><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, October 23, 2024 8:07 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1298709339527446650>10/23/2024 8:07 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>The tech is definitely part of this, but the model is meant to be more general purpose than that to include all of the “compilation instructions” for every aspect of the business. All of the human functions in the business will be mapped out as part of this</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298709397115240489 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298709397115240489><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, October 23, 2024 8:07 PM">8:07 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Alongside the tech and other assets</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298709530334593114 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298709530334593114><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, October 23, 2024 8:08 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1298709530334593114>10/23/2024 8:08 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>btw. do I have to compile that : <a href="https://github.com/OpenSourceMfg/osm-business-model">https://github.com/OpenSourceMfg/osm-business-model</a> ? I ended up rendering Liquid markup into Hugo files instead, 'relearn' is a pretty decent theme : <a href="https://git.polymech.io/plastichub/lydia-printhead/src/branch/master/documentation/hugo">https://git.polymech.io/plastichub/lydia-printhead/src/branch/master/documentation/hugo</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(30,35,39,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://github.com/OpenSourceMfg/osm-business-model><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">GitHub - OpenSourceMfg/osm-business-model: The business model for O...</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">The business model for Open Source Manufacturing LLC - OpenSourceMfg/osm-business-model</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/osm-business-model-9BEF3> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/osm-business-model-9BEF3 alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298709749302427741 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298709749302427741><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/74e3a14bf208809ed4c1ebc56dbd69e9-FDCE1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=hopefulmgowner data-user-id=662348700508749827>HopefulMGowner</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, October 23, 2024 8:08 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1298709749302427741>10/23/2024 8:08 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I've got a intelectual challenge for ya'll</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298709965569130538 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298709965569130538><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, October 23, 2024 8:09 PM">8:09 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>So its been revealed that back doors that the NSA put into US systems where hacked by chinese and russian hackers</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298710056493121619 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298710056493121619><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich>Alexa</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1298709339527446650')"> The tech is definitely part of this, but the model is meant to be more general purpose than that to include all of the “compilation instructions” for every aspect of the business. All of the human functions in the business will be mapped out as part of this </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, October 23, 2024 8:10 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1298710056493121619>10/23/2024 8:10 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>right, yes - I've seen those yaml files all over the place; I am currently not settled on any fixed data structure / model; I hope I can loosen up a little configurations with selfhosted AI, generating schemas from one system/language into the next, on the fly - without bothering me about specifcs <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298710158284689419 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298710158284689419><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/74e3a14bf208809ed4c1ebc56dbd69e9-FDCE1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=hopefulmgowner data-user-id=662348700508749827>HopefulMGowner</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, October 23, 2024 8:10 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1298710158284689419>10/23/2024 8:10 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>How so assuming compremised infrastructure how could a cell service provider assure good security</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298710258927140914 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298710258927140914><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, October 23, 2024 8:10 PM">8:10 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Assume they operate similar to mint in that they rent hardware access</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298710459058356227 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298710459058356227><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/74e3a14bf208809ed4c1ebc56dbd69e9-FDCE1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=hopefulmgowner>HopefulMGowner</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1298709965569130538')"> So its been revealed that back doors that the NSA put into US systems where hacked by chinese and russian hackers </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=303adastra data-user-id=457390086879969280>303adastra</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, October 23, 2024 8:11 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1298710459058356227>10/23/2024 8:11 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Not to be pedantic, but I think this is an <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention">#off-topic</span> question, as it doesn't relate to <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention">#open-hardware-business-models</span></span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298710469208576032 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298710469208576032><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, October 23, 2024 8:11 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1298710469208576032>10/23/2024 8:11 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>there's 'Docker' for that - luckily - cuz deploying apps/services become a nightmare, in all regards</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298710545104371783 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298710545104371783><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/74e3a14bf208809ed4c1ebc56dbd69e9-FDCE1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=303adastra>303adastra</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1298710459058356227')"> Not to be pedantic, but I think this is an <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention">#off-topic</span> question, as it doesn't relate to <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention">#open-hardware-business-models</span> </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=hopefulmgowner data-user-id=662348700508749827>HopefulMGowner</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, October 23, 2024 8:12 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1298710545104371783>10/23/2024 8:12 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Moving conversation then</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=thumbsup><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=👍 src=media-ose/1f44d-27259.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298710688419549204 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298710688419549204><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, October 23, 2024 8:12 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1298710688419549204>10/23/2024 8:12 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Well, deploying Docker as part of an installer is one of the core problems I have right now <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298710973796057219 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298710973796057219><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/74e3a14bf208809ed4c1ebc56dbd69e9-FDCE1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=hopefulmgowner data-user-id=662348700508749827>HopefulMGowner</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, October 23, 2024 8:13 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1298710973796057219>10/23/2024 8:13 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Moved</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298711435697721375 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298711435697721375><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=karen_fi501_13984>Guinea Pig</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1298709530334593114')"> btw. do I have to compile that : <a href="https://github.com/OpenSourceMfg/osm-business-model">https://github.com/OpenSourceMfg/osm-business-model</a> ? I ended up rendering Liquid markup into Hugo files instead, 'relearn' is a pretty decent theme : <a href="https://git.polymech.io/plastichub/lydia-printhead/src/branch/master/documentation/hugo">https://git.polymech.io/plastichub/lydia-printhead/src/branch/master/documentation/hugo</a> </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=303adastra data-user-id=457390086879969280>303adastra</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, October 23, 2024 8:15 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1298711435697721375>10/23/2024 8:15 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>There's a build.gradle file that "builds" the model's schema, but it's only necessary if the schema is split up into multiple files and/or imports from other schemas. I'll get on <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="saphnich">@Alexa</span> 's case later for not adding a proper README <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298712136222113893 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298712136222113893><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, October 23, 2024 8:18 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1298712136222113893>10/23/2024 8:18 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>wow, didnt know folks still use Java - another reason to spin a universal server for those purposes, besides of preconfigured IDEs, for Marcin <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298712719914172436 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298712719914172436><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=karen_fi501_13984>Guinea Pig</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1298712136222113893')"> wow, didnt know folks still use Java - another reason to spin a universal server for those purposes, besides of preconfigured IDEs, for Marcin <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298714001357930556 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298714001357930556><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, October 23, 2024 8:25 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1298714001357930556>10/23/2024 8:25 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>well, still sitting on Grunt ( great addition by the web pioneers, 'Dojo' / IBM) : <a href="https://git.polymech.io/plastichub/lydia-printhead/src/branch/master/tasks/product.ts">https://git.polymech.io/plastichub/lydia-printhead/src/branch/master/tasks/product.ts</a> - the world speaks Typescript now; great eco system</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298714305130266725 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298714305130266725><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, October 23, 2024 8:26 PM">8:26 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>here a 'custom' plugin for Grunt, compiling our DSL : <a href="https://git.polymech.io/osr-plastic/osr-tasks/src/branch/master/tasks/compile.ts">https://git.polymech.io/osr-plastic/osr-tasks/src/branch/master/tasks/compile.ts</a></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298714396767551592 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298714396767551592><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, October 23, 2024 8:27 PM">8:27 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>perhaps there's better, wasnt convinced of Gulp and Webpack ...</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298715217513156620 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298715217513156620><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=karen_fi501_13984>Guinea Pig</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1298714305130266725')"> here a 'custom' plugin for Grunt, compiling our DSL : <a href="https://git.polymech.io/osr-plastic/osr-tasks/src/branch/master/tasks/compile.ts">https://git.polymech.io/osr-plastic/osr-tasks/src/branch/master/tasks/compile.ts</a> </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=303adastra data-user-id=457390086879969280>303adastra</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, October 23, 2024 8:30 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1298715217513156620>10/23/2024 8:30 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Hm, it looks like Grunt uses an imperative approach for defining build logic whereas Gradle uses an declarative approach. I think I'd still want to go with a declarative approach, despite how much I hate looking at the syntax.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298719252785922108 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298719252785922108><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, October 23, 2024 8:46 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1298719252785922108>10/23/2024 8:46 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>yeah, its still java <img
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declarative - yup; another good addition for the perfect DSL - still messing with type safety (zod) and AI</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Wednesday, October 23, 2024 8:46 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298719493882773561 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298719493882773561><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, October 23, 2024 8:47 PM">8:47 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>anyway, there wasnt anything I missed in Grunt so far; stupid simple works</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298720487177719899 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298720487177719899><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, October 23, 2024 8:51 PM">8:51 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>btw. thats pretty hard always : cache invalidation, in the build pipe; no matter the system; you'd need to know when linked assets need to be recompiled, eg: pdf,... translations -</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298720678337314949 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298720678337314949><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, October 23, 2024 8:52 PM">8:52 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>currently I am considering a central registry that receives hashes/beacons instead since all the files are compiled in different places, and contexts</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Wednesday, October 23, 2024 8:53 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298723795150049414 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298723795150049414><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=karen_fi501_13984>Guinea Pig</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1298720487177719899')"> btw. thats pretty hard always : cache invalidation, in the build pipe; no matter the system; you'd need to know when linked assets need to be recompiled, eg: pdf,... translations - </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=303adastra data-user-id=457390086879969280>303adastra</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, October 23, 2024 9:04 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1298723795150049414>10/23/2024 9:04 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I haven't had to model anything that complicated, but as far as PDF artifacts, you just re-build the PDF whenever there's an update to the model (or get fancy and have some CI pipeline do it for you)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298727162563530793 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298727162563530793><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, October 23, 2024 9:18 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1298727162563530793>10/23/2024 9:18 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>yeah; not sure yet even what i want, for now its still simple deployment/build-server ->verticals->content->assets, plus translations</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298727344030351360 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298727344030351360><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, October 23, 2024 9:18 PM">9:18 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>CI is out, needs to be all downloadable, via docker I guess
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1299609078758379582 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1299609078758379582><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=karen_fi501_13984>Guinea Pig</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1298727344030351360')"> CI is out, needs to be all downloadable, via docker I guess
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#offlineliberty </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=303adastra data-user-id=457390086879969280>303adastra</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, October 26, 2024 7:42 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1299609078758379582>10/26/2024 7:42 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>As in you want to be able to generate build artifacts of a model from within a docker container?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1299612776268038218 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1299612776268038218><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, October 26, 2024 7:57 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1299612776268038218>10/26/2024 7:57 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>yep, most of the build chain I'd love to pack as docker container, also accessible via REST; in my case, and probably for most companies out there in this field; solidworks needs to be accessible via ssh; within a vm (virtual box refuses to run it probably, and vmware has been killed) - what a mess <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1299614820362092545 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1299614820362092545><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, October 26, 2024 8:05 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1299614820362092545>10/26/2024 8:05 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>and to make things more complicated: not even close to automate Fusion-360 (my 500$ subscription expires soon) - I'd like to meet this guys at FreeCAD, alone, somewhere in a park <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1299618055265058820 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1299618055265058820><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=karen_fi501_13984>Guinea Pig</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1299612776268038218')"> yep, most of the build chain I'd love to pack as docker container, also accessible via REST; in my case, and probably for most companies out there in this field; solidworks needs to be accessible via ssh; within a vm (virtual box refuses to run it probably, and vmware has been killed) - what a mess <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1299619927652565092 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1299619927652565092><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, October 26, 2024 8:25 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1299619927652565092>10/26/2024 8:25 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>yeah, something like that, just for windows though (thats where production usually happens)
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didnt know about 'ungit'; neat <a href="https://github.com/FredrikNoren/ungit">https://github.com/FredrikNoren/ungit</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(30,35,39,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://github.com/FredrikNoren/ungit><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">GitHub - FredrikNoren/ungit: The easiest way to use git. On any pla...</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">The easiest way to use git. On any platform. Anywhere. - FredrikNoren/ungit</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/ungit-29CC6> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/ungit-29CC6 alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1299620312362782772 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1299620312362782772><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, October 26, 2024 8:27 AM">8:27 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>btw. still looking for a distributed FS - also there Windows options lack behind - got only 5 main products; takes up to 10 hours to compile all, good renderings could add a week</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1299621061012230235 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1299621061012230235><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=karen_fi501_13984>Guinea Pig</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1299619927652565092')"> yeah, something like that, just for windows though (thats where production usually happens)
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didnt know about 'ungit'; neat <a href="https://github.com/FredrikNoren/ungit">https://github.com/FredrikNoren/ungit</a> </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=303adastra data-user-id=457390086879969280>303adastra</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, October 26, 2024 8:30 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1299621061012230235>10/26/2024 8:30 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://kasmweb.com/docs/latest/guide/windows/overview.html">https://kasmweb.com/docs/latest/guide/windows/overview.html</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://kasmweb.com/docs/latest/guide/windows/overview.html><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Windows Overview — Kasm 1.16.0 documentation</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Kasm Workspaces Windows support overview.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1299621062010736701 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1299621062010736701><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/def5e0a7ff07e73d477a87df10a3dc4f-BFBB1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(153,45,34) title=Arcane#7800 data-user-id=437808476106784770>Arcane</span> <span class=chatlog__author-tag>BOT</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, October 26, 2024 8:30 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1299621062010736701>10/26/2024 8:30 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="303adastra">@303adastra</span> has reached level <strong>14</strong>. GG!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1299621643676553337 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1299621643676553337><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=karen_fi501_13984>Guinea Pig</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1299620312362782772')"> btw. still looking for a distributed FS - also there Windows options lack behind - got only 5 main products; takes up to 10 hours to compile all, good renderings could add a week </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=303adastra data-user-id=457390086879969280>303adastra</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, October 26, 2024 8:32 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1299621643676553337>10/26/2024 8:32 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/InterPlanetary_File_System">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/InterPlanetary_File_System</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/InterPlanetary_File_System><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">InterPlanetary File System</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">The InterPlanetary File System (IPFS) is a protocol, hypermedia and file sharing peer-to-peer network for storing and sharing data in a distributed file system. By using content addressing, IPFS uniquely identifies each file in a global namespace that connects IPFS hosts, creating a resilient system of file storage and sharing.
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IPFS allows users...</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/Ipfs-logo-1024-ice-text-6FA4C.png> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/Ipfs-logo-1024-ice-text-6FA4C.png alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1299641312793985024 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1299641312793985024><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, October 26, 2024 9:50 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1299641312793985024>10/26/2024 9:50 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>nice, kasmweb will definitely help me; thank you
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InterPlanetary_File_System : will have to check, most of those file systems lack a good fuse implementation, making it easy to mount in your operating system - still dreaming to mount git that way, for simple users, as my assistants <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1301623205018210335 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1301623205018210335><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, October 31, 2024 8:05 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1301623205018210335>10/31/2024 8:05 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Yammi, 'zod' (<a href="https://github.com/colinhacks/zod?tab=readme-ov-file#ecosystem)">https://github.com/colinhacks/zod?tab=readme-ov-file#ecosystem)</a> plays nice in most scenarios: schema -> YArgs | Grunt | JSONSchema | OpenAPI Spec, and with some luck to React-Forms (as GUI for CLI apps) not sure that's the right thing to do though but there's nothing better right now (wont pay Rust devs <img
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src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Thursday, October 31, 2024 8:06 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1301623528558170215 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1301623528558170215><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, October 31, 2024 8:07 PM">8:07 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>and still, a simple app loads about 1000+ files in deps <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1301834265331240994 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1301834265331240994><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, November 1, 2024 10:04 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1301834265331240994>11/1/2024 10:04 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>our future of search : <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42008569">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42008569</a> - just tried OpenAI app in voice mode ( headphones ), really neat, it keeps writing into my session, ... asking it however about OSE/PP gives an endless stream of bs but its quite accurate about spinning up a small fabrication related business, involved fees, risks, etc...</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,102,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><div class=chatlog__embed-author>marban</div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42008569"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">ChatGPT Search</div></a></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-footer><img class=chatlog__embed-footer-icon src=media-ose/y18-27627.gif alt="Footer icon" loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__embed-footer-text> Hacker News • 10/31/2024 5:41 PM </span></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1301834780870180924 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1301834780870180924><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, November 1, 2024 10:06 AM">10:06 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>so we are a few years away that this thing spots all problems in a code base whilst offering me options to solve them, interactively -</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1301842364335132717 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1301842364335132717><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, November 1, 2024 10:36 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1301842364335132717>11/1/2024 10:36 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>ah, judging voice and overall quality (call center grade), perhaps a good idea to warn the elderly; so easy to copy anyone's face & voice ...</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1301842645961674774 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1301842645961674774><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, November 1, 2024 10:37 AM">10:37 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt15314262/?ref_=nm_flmg_job_1_cred_t_1">https://www.imdb.com/title/tt15314262/?ref_=nm_flmg_job_1_cred_t_1</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt15314262/?ref_=nm_flmg_job_1_cred_t_1"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">The Beekeeper (2024) ⭐ 6.3 | Action, Crime, Thriller</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">1h 45m | R</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/MV5BNzg3YjVmZGYtOTc5MC00MDdiLTllOTYtZWQ0OD-BA71A.jpg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/MV5BNzg3YjVmZGYtOTc5MC00MDdiLTllOTYtZWQ0OD-BA71A.jpg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1313203213956022333 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1313203213956022333><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, December 2, 2024 7:00 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1313203213956022333>12/2/2024 7:00 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>viola, final iteration (on this level <img
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src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> , most censored, most copied low-tech injector, unmatched <img
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src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> <a href="https://files.polymech.io/files/machines/injection/elena-zmax-rc1/">https://files.polymech.io/files/machines/injection/elena-zmax-rc1/</a>
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things learned :
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<ul><li>avoid laser parts</li><li>avoid welding</li><li>avoid powder coating (zinc, chromeplating)</li><li>avoid clumsy mechanics, it has to be dead on, no merci, 0.05mm all around</li><li>avoid eco / recycler "clients", nothing but trouble</li><li>tune every detail, its got to be safe, precise & predictable</li><li>dont try this at home <img
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src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></li></ul></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Monday, December 2, 2024 7:01 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1313203215101333566 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1313203215101333566><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/def5e0a7ff07e73d477a87df10a3dc4f-BFBB1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(153,45,34) title=Arcane#7800 data-user-id=437808476106784770>Arcane</span> <span class=chatlog__author-tag>BOT</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, December 2, 2024 7:00 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1313203215101333566>12/2/2024 7:00 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="fabianochristian42173_03541">@PP Mafia Lamu</span> has reached level <strong>5</strong>. GG!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1313203232524341308 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1313203232524341308><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, December 2, 2024 7:00 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1313203232524341308>12/2/2024 7:00 PM</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/DSC03159-0BE5B.JPG> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/DSC03159-0BE5B.JPG alt="Image attachment" title="Image: DSC03159.JPG (197.97 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1313203638495346688 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1313203638495346688><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, December 2, 2024 7:02 PM">7:02 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>all in all, terrible process after all; cant imagine how anyone could like that - no matter what</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1313204365518966824 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1313204365518966824><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, December 2, 2024 7:05 PM">7:05 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>here the 'lab version', ok for fun stuff though, challange : integrated electronics, fume handling, ...</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/DSC02240-416EF.JPG> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/DSC02240-416EF.JPG alt="Image attachment" title="Image: DSC02240.JPG (390.7 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1313204840645787730 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1313204840645787730><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, December 2, 2024 7:07 PM">7:07 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>and here our friends in the 'poor' countries, doing more, with way less : <a href="https://www.instagram.com/smartest.worker/">https://www.instagram.com/smartest.worker/</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.instagram.com/smartest.worker/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Smartest Workers (@smartest.worker) • Instagram profile</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">3M Followers, 0 Following, 1,661 Posts - See Instagram photos and videos from Smartest Workers (@smartest.worker)</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/320226312_705639934511951_4847587076451733-E41FE.jpg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/320226312_705639934511951_4847587076451733-E41FE.jpg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1313220870088556605 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1313220870088556605><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=fabianochristian42173_03541>PP Mafia Lamu</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1313203213956022333')"> viola, final iteration (on this level <img
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src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> <a href="https://files.polymech.io/files/machines/injection/elena-zmax-rc1/">https://files.polymech.io/files/machines/injection/elena-zmax-rc1/</a>
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<ul><li>avoid laser parts</li><li>avoid welding</li><li>avoid powder coating (zinc, chromeplating)</li><li>avoid clumsy mechanics, it has to be dead on, no merci, 0.05mm all around</li><li>avoid eco / recycler "clients", nothing but trouble</li><li>tune every detail, its got to be safe, precise & predictable</li><li>dont try this at home <img
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src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></li></ul> </span> <span class=chatlog__reply-edited-timestamp title="Monday, December 2, 2024 7:01 PM">(edited)</span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, December 2, 2024 8:10 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1313220870088556605>12/2/2024 8:10 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>other, non monetary things I learned with that 'stuff' :
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<ul><li>dont do it for made up stuff, eg: recycling, Opensource, education, eco, .... most of them, lazy, pretentious, .... however, most rewarding clients have been always who pursued quality, consistency - aka "designing for the root cause", or "dont join a weak crowd</li><li>anything related to production, at least here in the west, Europe, an enclave of the USA <img
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src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> is more likely to be doomed, I hope things change - I still consider it as the best way for folks to actually connect, collaborate, beyond just money - tools, platforms, protocols ... yet to be written</li></ul></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Monday, December 2, 2024 8:11 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1313221478099058760 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1313221478099058760><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, December 2, 2024 8:13 PM">8:13 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/DDEXxIeCk-o">https://www.instagram.com/p/DDEXxIeCk-o</a> ( life before technology <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1318303172942626826 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1318303172942626826><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, December 16, 2024 8:46 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1318303172942626826>12/16/2024 8:46 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>looking for someone who can take this to the next level, shelf components are nice somehow but require insane time to wire, and space ... would love to have the power circuits (2, fuse & contactor) on a modular bus ready PCB, as well the PIDs, chainable (modbus), and a feedback panel, keypad & touchscreen</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-8EC1C.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-8EC1C.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (1.28 MB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1318303444913881109 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1318303444913881109><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, December 16, 2024 8:47 PM">8:47 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>got the same problems with other controllers : extruders, clamping addons, mixers, shredder combos, ...</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1318303466443116704 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1318303466443116704><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, December 16, 2024 8:47 PM">8:47 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>lab grade</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1330247366615240744 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1330247366615240744><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, January 18, 2025 7:48 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1330247366615240744>1/18/2025 7:48 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Alrighty <img
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In case anyone knows better, I am happy with
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main-page - theme : <a href="https://lexingtonthemes.com/viewports/trendspotter/">https://lexingtonthemes.com/viewports/trendspotter/</a>, checkout <a href="https://lexingtonthemes.com/viewports/williamsburg/">https://lexingtonthemes.com/viewports/williamsburg/</a> as well</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1330247502796030044 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1330247502796030044><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, January 18, 2025 7:48 PM">7:48 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>documentation, <a href="https://github.com/withastro/starlight">https://github.com/withastro/starlight</a></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1330247688725463070 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1330247688725463070><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, January 18, 2025 7:49 PM">7:49 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>shop, synced with Shopify : <a href="https://astrofront.vercel.app/">https://astrofront.vercel.app/</a></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1330247955852296313 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1330247955852296313><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, January 18, 2025 7:50 PM">7:50 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>most of the legwork is done in the starlight theme (i18n), but still, structured data, AI outlets, user directories, and knowledgebase yet to be figured...</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1344875407023017984 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1344875407023017984><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/bae24c3ac93c33865f03b051a72b0e87-8912D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=summersidehalfling data-user-id=952732508376690688>Summer</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, February 28, 2025 4:34 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1344875407023017984>2/28/2025 4:34 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Why not go all in one with Odoo Community?</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1344875558777126942 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1344875558777126942><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, February 28, 2025 4:35 AM">4:35 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://demo6.odoo.com/odoo">https://demo6.odoo.com/odoo</a></span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1344877569966739486 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1344877569966739486><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/bae24c3ac93c33865f03b051a72b0e87-8912D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=summersidehalfling>Summer</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1344875407023017984')"> Why not go all in one with Odoo Community? </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, February 28, 2025 4:43 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1344877569966739486>2/28/2025 4:43 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>That link doesn’t work for me <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1345574401047007293 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1345574401047007293><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/bae24c3ac93c33865f03b051a72b0e87-8912D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich>Alexa</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1344877569966739486')"> That link doesn’t work for me <img
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src="media-ose/1f914-15707.svg"> </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=summersidehalfling data-user-id=952732508376690688>Summer</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, March 2, 2025 2:52 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1345574401047007293>3/2/2025 2:52 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Huh…it worked earlier.</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1345574851389165658 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1345574851389165658><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, March 2, 2025 2:54 AM">2:54 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://odoo-community.org/">https://odoo-community.org/</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://odoo-community.org/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Home | The Odoo Community Association | OCA</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Making Odoo mightier, together. ERP Solutions that are fast, reliable, high quality and support open source excellence.</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/Social%2520Media%2520Avatar-3FFCE.png> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/Social%2520Media%2520Avatar-3FFCE.png alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1345574942938366005 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1345574942938366005><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, March 2, 2025 2:54 AM">2:54 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>That is a different site but it’s more in line with what this community values</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1345649935520895016 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1345649935520895016><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/bae24c3ac93c33865f03b051a72b0e87-8912D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=summersidehalfling data-user-id=952732508376690688>Summer</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, March 2, 2025 7:52 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1345649935520895016>3/2/2025 7:52 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>It’s licensed under the AGPLv3.0</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1379942948132618302 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1379942948132618302><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, June 5, 2025 12:00 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1379942948132618302>6/5/2025 12:00 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I am planning a 3D Printer Build Experience Workshop in Port Huron, MI at the beginning of August this year.</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=eyes><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=👀 src=media-ose/1f440-6C64D.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1379943200558551060 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1379943200558551060><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, June 5, 2025 12:01 AM">12:01 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>In the interest of being open, here is the email with my initial details that I sent to my local YMCA’s CEO to get an idea of whether they will be a good fit for hosting the event.</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=thumbsup><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=👍 src=media-ose/1f44d-27259.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1379943672363094087 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1379943672363094087><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, June 5, 2025 12:03 AM">12:03 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__attachment><div class=chatlog__attachment-generic><svg class=chatlog__attachment-generic-icon><use href=#attachment-icon /></svg><div class=chatlog__attachment-generic-name><a href=media-ose/Email_of_interest-CC5FD.txt> Email_of_interest.txt </a></div><div class=chatlog__attachment-generic-size>3.83 KB</div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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