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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1346944294635704362 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1346944294635704362><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/8242935291434d7f907f31028888f962-E62F3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=goldfishlaser data-user-id=526171283444989954>goldfishlaser#1337</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, March 5, 2025 9:35 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1346944294635704362>3/5/2025 9:35 PM</a></span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1346954039132160041 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1346954039132160041><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/bae24c3ac93c33865f03b051a72b0e87-8912D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=summersidehalfling data-user-id=952732508376690688>Summer</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, March 5, 2025 10:14 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1346954039132160041>3/5/2025 10:14 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>The wiki is good but it is limiting. You can use documentation to standardize your practices with systems engineering ISOs.</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1346954216727511171 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1346954216727511171><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, March 5, 2025 10:15 PM">10:15 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Aerospace did that with S1000D but I cant find something comparable that exists for farming</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1346954703422095391 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1346954703422095391><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/8242935291434d7f907f31028888f962-E62F3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=goldfishlaser data-user-id=526171283444989954>goldfishlaser#1337</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, March 5, 2025 10:17 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1346954703422095391>3/5/2025 10:17 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>gotcha. well, there are many volunteers including myself that have sometimes advocated for creating official documentation using better techniques. Marcin adopted the wiki and google docs way of doing things to lower the barrier of entry</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Wednesday, March 5, 2025 10:17 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1346955017004912761 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1346955017004912761><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, March 5, 2025 10:18 PM">10:18 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>i think i may even have the conversation documented in my log <em>checks</em></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1346955121497735250 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1346955121497735250><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, March 5, 2025 10:18 PM">10:18 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>anyways I&#39;d definitely recommend familiarizing yourself with the Documentation Team info on the wiki</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=thumbsup><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=👍 src=media-ose/1f44d-27259.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1346955131098239058 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1346955131098239058><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/bae24c3ac93c33865f03b051a72b0e87-8912D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=summersidehalfling data-user-id=952732508376690688>Summer</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, March 5, 2025 10:18 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1346955131098239058>3/5/2025 10:18 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Im not saying that wiki and google docs are bad or whether you should stop using them. What I am saying is there might be a way to standardize them for the finished product.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1346955253513195651 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1346955253513195651><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/8242935291434d7f907f31028888f962-E62F3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=goldfishlaser data-user-id=526171283444989954>goldfishlaser#1337</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, March 5, 2025 10:19 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1346955253513195651>3/5/2025 10:19 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>yes, I&#39;m just saying there are many volunteers that agree with that</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=thumbsup><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=👍 src=media-ose/1f44d-27259.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1346955288221323426 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1346955288221323426><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/bae24c3ac93c33865f03b051a72b0e87-8912D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=summersidehalfling data-user-id=952732508376690688>Summer</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, March 5, 2025 10:19 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1346955288221323426>3/5/2025 10:19 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Yes, I would like to see documentation team. I can always tinker with my idea on my own time</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1346955596548804720 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1346955596548804720><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/8242935291434d7f907f31028888f962-E62F3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=goldfishlaser data-user-id=526171283444989954>goldfishlaser#1337</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, March 5, 2025 10:20 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1346955596548804720>3/5/2025 10:20 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>and no do please continue to share your ideas I&#39;m not trying to chase it away I just am filling you in on the history</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=thumbsup><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=👍 src=media-ose/1f44d-27259.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1346955622985498674 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1346955622985498674><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/bae24c3ac93c33865f03b051a72b0e87-8912D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=summersidehalfling data-user-id=952732508376690688>Summer</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, March 5, 2025 10:20 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1346955622985498674>3/5/2025 10:20 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Got it</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1346955862870327347 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1346955862870327347><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, March 5, 2025 10:21 PM">10:21 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I work in a very niche tech writing field where we already do all that for aerospace. Because if anything is off, even just a little bit, things go “boom”</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1346956016910078125 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1346956016910078125><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, March 5, 2025 10:22 PM">10:22 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>However, the license to use S1000D is too limiting for what we need</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1346956282598391851 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1346956282598391851><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/8242935291434d7f907f31028888f962-E62F3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=goldfishlaser data-user-id=526171283444989954>goldfishlaser#1337</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, March 5, 2025 10:23 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1346956282598391851>3/5/2025 10:23 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Yeah that&#39;s pretty awesome. I haven&#39;t worked in high tech yet but I was applying to a job that I probably won&#39;t get due to lack of experience in high tech, but you miss all the shots you don&#39;t take, right</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Wednesday, March 5, 2025 10:23 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1346956315594981386 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1346956315594981386><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/bae24c3ac93c33865f03b051a72b0e87-8912D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=summersidehalfling data-user-id=952732508376690688>Summer</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, March 5, 2025 10:23 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1346956315594981386>3/5/2025 10:23 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Right</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1346957104845553725 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1346957104845553725><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/8242935291434d7f907f31028888f962-E62F3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=goldfishlaser data-user-id=526171283444989954>goldfishlaser#1337</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, March 5, 2025 10:26 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1346957104845553725>3/5/2025 10:26 PM</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/Screenshot_20250305_162623_Gmail-BB6BF.jpg> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/Screenshot_20250305_162623_Gmail-BB6BF.jpg alt="Image attachment" title="Image: Screenshot_20250305_162623_Gmail.jpg (402.07 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1346957373209710714 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1346957373209710714><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, March 5, 2025 10:27 PM">10:27 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>so yeah, like i said, he even says here, we should do it, just note the scope and limitations and priorities
at the time we were advising continuous documentation with sphinx</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Wednesday, March 5, 2025 10:30 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1346957821236875287 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1346957821236875287><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, March 5, 2025 10:29 PM">10:29 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/G_Log">https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/G_Log</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/G_Log><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">G Log</div></a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1346964334349123614 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1346964334349123614><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/bae24c3ac93c33865f03b051a72b0e87-8912D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=summersidehalfling data-user-id=952732508376690688>Summer</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, March 5, 2025 10:55 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1346964334349123614>3/5/2025 10:55 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Ive looked at Sphinx and am open to using it. What are you doing with Sphinx?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1346964666798047413 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1346964666798047413><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/8242935291434d7f907f31028888f962-E62F3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=goldfishlaser data-user-id=526171283444989954>goldfishlaser#1337</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, March 5, 2025 10:56 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1346964666798047413>3/5/2025 10:56 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Well Michael Altfield was the guy who was making the original suggestion and he uses a read the docs sphinx thing for his docs and we were wanting to take that approach... ill grab u the repo in a sec</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Wednesday, March 5, 2025 10:57 PM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=thumbsup><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=👍 src=media-ose/1f44d-27259.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1346965160824147999 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1346965160824147999><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, March 5, 2025 10:58 PM">10:58 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://github.com/maltfield/rtd-github-pages">https://github.com/maltfield/rtd-github-pages</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(30,35,39,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://github.com/maltfield/rtd-github-pages><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">GitHub - maltfield/rtd-github-pages: Fork-ready base for your proje...</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Fork-ready base for your project&amp;#39;s documentation using Sphinx + Read the Docs on GitHub Pages - GitHub - maltfield/rtd-github-pages: Fork-ready base for your project&amp;#39;s documentatio...</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/27e7c700-c996-11ea-97ab-65b868d89a67-18B19> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/27e7c700-c996-11ea-97ab-65b868d89a67-18B19 alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=thumbsup><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=👍 src=media-ose/1f44d-27259.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1346966937116344410 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1346966937116344410><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/8242935291434d7f907f31028888f962-E62F3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=goldfishlaser data-user-id=526171283444989954>goldfishlaser#1337</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, March 5, 2025 11:05 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1346966937116344410>3/5/2025 11:05 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>again, this is just one way and I definitely look forward to hearing more of what you have in mind. and also, i note that his workflows did have some build errors when I tried to contribute some docs to docs.buskill.in</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Wednesday, March 5, 2025 11:07 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1346976854082453627 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1346976854082453627><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/bae24c3ac93c33865f03b051a72b0e87-8912D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/8242935291434d7f907f31028888f962-E62F3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=goldfishlaser>goldfishlaser#1337</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1346966937116344410')"> again, this is just one way and I definitely look forward to hearing more of what you have in mind. and also, i note that his workflows did have some build errors when I tried to contribute some docs to docs.buskill.in </span> <span class=chatlog__reply-edited-timestamp title="Wednesday, March 5, 2025 11:07 PM">(edited)</span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=summersidehalfling data-user-id=952732508376690688>Summer</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, March 5, 2025 11:45 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1346976854082453627>3/5/2025 11:45 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I read over part 1 and part 2 of his series. Considering theyre from 2020, I imagine some dependencies have changed or have been updated since then</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=100><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=💯 src=media-ose/1f4af-4CFF5.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1346979722742992959 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1346979722742992959><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/bae24c3ac93c33865f03b051a72b0e87-8912D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=summersidehalfling data-user-id=952732508376690688>Summer</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, March 5, 2025 11:56 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1346979722742992959>3/5/2025 11:56 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Im doing a little research to see how we can use RST/Sphinx with OSE</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1346983365542281358 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1346983365542281358><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/bae24c3ac93c33865f03b051a72b0e87-8912D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=summersidehalfling data-user-id=952732508376690688>Summer</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, March 6, 2025 12:11 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1346983365542281358>3/6/2025 12:11 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>But yes, MJ is discussing in-work documenting when we are discussing end-user documentation</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1346983398941393068 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1346983398941393068><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, March 6, 2025 12:11 AM">12:11 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>They need to be separated</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1346983520878460940 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1346983520878460940><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/8242935291434d7f907f31028888f962-E62F3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=goldfishlaser data-user-id=526171283444989954>goldfishlaser#1337</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, March 6, 2025 12:11 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1346983520878460940>3/6/2025 12:11 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I concur</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=100><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=💯 src=media-ose/1f4af-4CFF5.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1346983795685064826 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1346983795685064826><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/bae24c3ac93c33865f03b051a72b0e87-8912D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=summersidehalfling data-user-id=952732508376690688>Summer</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, March 6, 2025 12:12 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1346983795685064826>3/6/2025 12:12 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>So I am not familiar with ReST (but it looks awesome.) Ill have to set my environment up for the 50 machines (assuming its not somewhere else already)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1346984011490136097 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1346984011490136097><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, March 6, 2025 12:13 AM">12:13 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Im all for doing a Red Hat-like freemium service, or having OSE franchises</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1346984330911809658 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1346984330911809658><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/8242935291434d7f907f31028888f962-E62F3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/bae24c3ac93c33865f03b051a72b0e87-8912D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=summersidehalfling>Summer</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1346983795685064826')"> So I am not familiar with ReST (but it looks awesome.) Ill have to set my environment up for the 50 machines (assuming its not somewhere else already) </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=goldfishlaser data-user-id=526171283444989954>goldfishlaser#1337</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, March 6, 2025 12:14 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1346984330911809658>3/6/2025 12:14 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>by ReST do you mean <a href="https://www.sphinx-doc.org/en/master/usage/restructuredtext/basics.html">https://www.sphinx-doc.org/en/master/usage/restructuredtext/basics.html</a> or something else</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1346984370946179082 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1346984370946179082><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/bae24c3ac93c33865f03b051a72b0e87-8912D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=summersidehalfling data-user-id=952732508376690688>Summer</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, March 6, 2025 12:14 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1346984370946179082>3/6/2025 12:14 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Yes</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1346984411908014230 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1346984411908014230><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, March 6, 2025 12:15 AM">12:15 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>restructured text</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1346984466555605115 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1346984466555605115><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/8242935291434d7f907f31028888f962-E62F3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=goldfishlaser data-user-id=526171283444989954>goldfishlaser#1337</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, March 6, 2025 12:15 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1346984466555605115>3/6/2025 12:15 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>ok yeah i need to review all this as well its been a minute but ive been meaning to</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1346984577071186002 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1346984577071186002><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/bae24c3ac93c33865f03b051a72b0e87-8912D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=summersidehalfling data-user-id=952732508376690688>Summer</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, March 6, 2025 12:15 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1346984577071186002>3/6/2025 12:15 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Do you want to set up a meeting for later, after we review everything?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1346985086452760586 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1346985086452760586><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/8242935291434d7f907f31028888f962-E62F3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=goldfishlaser data-user-id=526171283444989954>goldfishlaser#1337</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, March 6, 2025 12:17 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1346985086452760586>3/6/2025 12:17 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>that actually sounds like a pretty good idea hm... im estimating how much time I plan to take <em>estimating</em></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1346985506545733713 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1346985506545733713><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, March 6, 2025 12:19 AM">12:19 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>any times particularly work well for you?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1346985702545559635 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1346985702545559635><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/bae24c3ac93c33865f03b051a72b0e87-8912D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=summersidehalfling data-user-id=952732508376690688>Summer</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, March 6, 2025 12:20 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1346985702545559635>3/6/2025 12:20 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Im in the Central US (Texas) and Im available during first shift</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1346985753556815893 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1346985753556815893><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, March 6, 2025 12:20 AM">12:20 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Daytime hours</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1346985784405786645 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1346985784405786645><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/8242935291434d7f907f31028888f962-E62F3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=goldfishlaser data-user-id=526171283444989954>goldfishlaser#1337</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, March 6, 2025 12:20 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1346985784405786645>3/6/2025 12:20 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>ok I&#39;m EST</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1346985830362779758 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1346985830362779758><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/bae24c3ac93c33865f03b051a72b0e87-8912D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=summersidehalfling data-user-id=952732508376690688>Summer</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, March 6, 2025 12:20 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1346985830362779758>3/6/2025 12:20 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Im CST, so that works</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1346985865695465473 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1346985865695465473><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, March 6, 2025 12:20 AM">12:20 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Maybe next Wednesday?</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=thumbsup><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=👍 src=media-ose/1f44d-27259.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>2</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1346986074332729436 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1346986074332729436><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/8242935291434d7f907f31028888f962-E62F3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=goldfishlaser data-user-id=526171283444989954>goldfishlaser#1337</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, March 6, 2025 12:21 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1346986074332729436>3/6/2025 12:21 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>yeah can do! thanks for your participation, perhaps others will join us in the meantime, so i like that aspect of giving it a week</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Thursday, March 6, 2025 12:21 AM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=thumbsup><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=👍 src=media-ose/1f44d-27259.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1347012634657947719 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1347012634657947719><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=303adastra data-user-id=457390086879969280>303adastra</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, March 6, 2025 2:07 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1347012634657947719>3/6/2025 2:07 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Cc&#39;ing a message that&#39;s perhaps gotten buried in the general chat <a href="https://discord.com/channels/700486873272811562/700486873272811565/1339848428032888905" onclick="scrollToMessage(event, '1339848428032888905')">https://discord.com/channels/700486873272811562/700486873272811565/1339848428032888905</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=thumbsup><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=👍 src=media-ose/1f44d-27259.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1347263256364060817 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1347263256364060817><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/bae24c3ac93c33865f03b051a72b0e87-8912D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=summersidehalfling data-user-id=952732508376690688>Summer</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, March 6, 2025 6:43 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1347263256364060817>3/6/2025 6:43 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>So, I did a little research and found out that the S1000D and other S Series aerospace specifications are based on ISO Standard ISO 10303-239 Product Life Cycle Support (PLCS.) Im going to buy a copy so I can use it for work and for here. <a href="http://www.ap239.org/">http://www.ap239.org/</a> for more information</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1347264320903315537 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1347264320903315537><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, March 6, 2025 6:47 PM">6:47 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>The idea is that we can use it to create our OSE specifications that can be used throughout the entire life cycle of the GVCS. Benefits include:
*Complete standardization of the machines
*Ability to build software, including digital twins, and online documentation, of the machines
*Ability to open source said standards
*The ability to collaborate because everyone is on the same page
*Other things I havent thought of yet (might edit this one later)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1347264564743376917 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1347264564743376917><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/8242935291434d7f907f31028888f962-E62F3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=goldfishlaser data-user-id=526171283444989954>goldfishlaser#1337</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, March 6, 2025 6:48 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1347264564743376917>3/6/2025 6:48 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>hm digital twins sounds like what is already being attempted by DOF</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1347264691130339381 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1347264691130339381><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/bae24c3ac93c33865f03b051a72b0e87-8912D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=summersidehalfling data-user-id=952732508376690688>Summer</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, March 6, 2025 6:48 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1347264691130339381>3/6/2025 6:48 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>What/who is DOF</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1347264843077521460 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1347264843077521460><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/8242935291434d7f907f31028888f962-E62F3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=goldfishlaser data-user-id=526171283444989954>goldfishlaser#1337</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, March 6, 2025 6:49 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1347264843077521460>3/6/2025 6:49 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>its what <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="303adastra">@303adastra</span> is talking about</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1347264983721050235 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1347264983721050235><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/bae24c3ac93c33865f03b051a72b0e87-8912D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=summersidehalfling data-user-id=952732508376690688>Summer</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, March 6, 2025 6:50 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1347264983721050235>3/6/2025 6:50 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>That means DOF would have standardized digital twins, then</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1347265144819810334 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1347265144819810334><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/8242935291434d7f907f31028888f962-E62F3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=goldfishlaser data-user-id=526171283444989954>goldfishlaser#1337</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, March 6, 2025 6:50 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1347265144819810334>3/6/2025 6:50 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://discord.com/channels/700486873272811562/700486873272811565/1132181812534313040" onclick="scrollToMessage(event, '1132181812534313040')">https://discord.com/channels/700486873272811562/700486873272811565/1132181812534313040</a></span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1347265226273198152 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1347265226273198152><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/bae24c3ac93c33865f03b051a72b0e87-8912D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=summersidehalfling data-user-id=952732508376690688>Summer</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, March 6, 2025 6:51 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1347265226273198152>3/6/2025 6:51 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>So whether its a truck built in India or France or the USA it would be standardized designs and standardized parts</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1347265264374386748 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1347265264374386748><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/8242935291434d7f907f31028888f962-E62F3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=goldfishlaser data-user-id=526171283444989954>goldfishlaser#1337</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, March 6, 2025 6:51 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1347265264374386748>3/6/2025 6:51 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>DOF is a work in progress. it hasnt used the word digital twin specifically but yes</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1347265397627555900 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1347265397627555900><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, March 6, 2025 6:51 PM">6:51 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>please have a look as its possible your expertise is useful in the effort</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=thumbsup><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=👍 src=media-ose/1f44d-27259.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1347265449594720266 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1347265449594720266><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/bae24c3ac93c33865f03b051a72b0e87-8912D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=summersidehalfling data-user-id=952732508376690688>Summer</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, March 6, 2025 6:51 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1347265449594720266>3/6/2025 6:51 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Its the same standard being used to create specifications for aircraft and fighter jets</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1347265493924446281 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1347265493924446281><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/8242935291434d7f907f31028888f962-E62F3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=goldfishlaser data-user-id=526171283444989954>goldfishlaser#1337</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, March 6, 2025 6:52 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1347265493924446281>3/6/2025 6:52 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>and id like to know how it compares to what you&#39;ve worked on</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1347265768999485451 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1347265768999485451><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, March 6, 2025 6:53 PM">6:53 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>the people driving DOF also have aerospace background</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Thursday, March 6, 2025 6:53 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1347266406567116862 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1347266406567116862><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/bae24c3ac93c33865f03b051a72b0e87-8912D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=summersidehalfling data-user-id=952732508376690688>Summer</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, March 6, 2025 6:55 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1347266406567116862>3/6/2025 6:55 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Yes, I should probably join OSHW</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1347266582480556094 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1347266582480556094><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/bae24c3ac93c33865f03b051a72b0e87-8912D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/8242935291434d7f907f31028888f962-E62F3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=goldfishlaser>goldfishlaser#1337</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1347265144819810334')"> <a href="https://discord.com/channels/700486873272811562/700486873272811565/1132181812534313040" onclick="scrollToMessage(event, '1132181812534313040')">https://discord.com/channels/700486873272811562/700486873272811565/1132181812534313040</a> </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=summersidehalfling data-user-id=952732508376690688>Summer</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, March 6, 2025 6:56 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1347266582480556094>3/6/2025 6:56 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Thanks for the provided context. Yes, <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="303adastra">@303adastra</span> and I are on the same page</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1347266700512460871 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1347266700512460871><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/8242935291434d7f907f31028888f962-E62F3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=goldfishlaser data-user-id=526171283444989954>goldfishlaser#1337</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, March 6, 2025 6:56 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1347266700512460871>3/6/2025 6:56 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>the talk is really good</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1347266749359456338 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1347266749359456338><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, March 6, 2025 6:57 PM">6:57 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>ive been onboarding myself</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=thumbsup><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=👍 src=media-ose/1f44d-27259.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1347266890757832746 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1347266890757832746><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/bae24c3ac93c33865f03b051a72b0e87-8912D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/8242935291434d7f907f31028888f962-E62F3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=goldfishlaser>goldfishlaser#1337</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1347265493924446281')"> and id like to know how it compares to what you&#39;ve worked on </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=summersidehalfling data-user-id=952732508376690688>Summer</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, March 6, 2025 6:57 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1347266890757832746>3/6/2025 6:57 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I did the tech writing and IT for a major defense contractor for about six years. Theyre going through a lot of changes so I quit and Im doing similar things on my own through independent contract work.</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1347267220350435409 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1347267220350435409><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, March 6, 2025 6:58 PM">6:58 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Im glad I left, based on current events. Nearly their entire business plan is based on the US being a member of NATO</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1347267387384135821 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1347267387384135821><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, March 6, 2025 6:59 PM">6:59 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I can switch to helping things locally in the USA</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1347267712044499016 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1347267712044499016><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/8242935291434d7f907f31028888f962-E62F3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=goldfishlaser data-user-id=526171283444989954>goldfishlaser#1337</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, March 6, 2025 7:00 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1347267712044499016>3/6/2025 7:00 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>heh i feel you on that</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=thumbsup><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=👍 src=media-ose/1f44d-27259.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1347268071894810636 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1347268071894810636><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/bae24c3ac93c33865f03b051a72b0e87-8912D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=summersidehalfling data-user-id=952732508376690688>Summer</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, March 6, 2025 7:02 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1347268071894810636>3/6/2025 7:02 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Not to get too political, but I did not vote for this nonsense <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="😢"
title="cry"
src="media-ose/1f622-BDD22.svg"></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1347268166463524905 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1347268166463524905><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, March 6, 2025 7:02 PM">7:02 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>But the nice thing about being a solopreneur is that its much easier to make changes</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1347268637463150732 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1347268637463150732><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/8242935291434d7f907f31028888f962-E62F3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=goldfishlaser data-user-id=526171283444989954>goldfishlaser#1337</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, March 6, 2025 7:04 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1347268637463150732>3/6/2025 7:04 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>heh yeah no worries i think its very clear this administration is very hostile to everything we value here so its kind of not so politically divisive to have problems with it...</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Thursday, March 6, 2025 7:05 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1347269081128243292 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1347269081128243292><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, March 6, 2025 7:06 PM">7:06 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>i just got let go from my job so</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1347269244802564106 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1347269244802564106><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, March 6, 2025 7:06 PM">7:06 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__embed><video class=chatlog__embed-generic-gifv width=640 height=360 loop onmouseover=this.play() onmouseout=this.pause()><source src=media-ose/im-waiting-A0581.mp4 alt="Embedded gifv"></video></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=people_hugging><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=🫂 src=media-ose/1fac2-960B6.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1347269341908959344 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1347269341908959344><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/bae24c3ac93c33865f03b051a72b0e87-8912D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=summersidehalfling data-user-id=952732508376690688>Summer</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, March 6, 2025 7:07 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1347269341908959344>3/6/2025 7:07 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I understand, and Im sorry</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1347269580510199878 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1347269580510199878><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, March 6, 2025 7:08 PM">7:08 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Youre not alone</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1347269742708129792 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1347269742708129792><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, March 6, 2025 7:08 PM">7:08 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I have to step away for a bit, but <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🫂"
title="people_hugging"
src="media-ose/1fac2-960B6.svg"> and I will be back on this Discord later</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1347269915467452416 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1347269915467452416><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/8242935291434d7f907f31028888f962-E62F3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=goldfishlaser data-user-id=526171283444989954>goldfishlaser#1337</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, March 6, 2025 7:09 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1347269915467452416>3/6/2025 7:09 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>no worries i gotta get back to stuff too ttyl</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=wave><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=👋 src=media-ose/1f44b-8A059.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1348794486427226163 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1348794486427226163><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/bae24c3ac93c33865f03b051a72b0e87-8912D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=summersidehalfling data-user-id=952732508376690688>Summer</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, March 11, 2025 12:07 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1348794486427226163>3/11/2025 12:07 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I found a documentation manual that was created with Sphinx and uses the Read the Docs theme, so its similar to what <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="goldfishlaser">@goldfishlaser#1337</span> recommended we do.</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1348794655013339317 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1348794655013339317><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, March 11, 2025 12:08 AM">12:08 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://docs.opnsense.org/index.html">https://docs.opnsense.org/index.html</a></span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1352705154201292851 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1352705154201292851><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/bae24c3ac93c33865f03b051a72b0e87-8912D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=summersidehalfling data-user-id=952732508376690688>Summer</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, March 21, 2025 7:07 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1352705154201292851>3/21/2025 7:07 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I want to create an open source version of this project:</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><div class=chatlog__attachment-generic><svg class=chatlog__attachment-generic-icon><use href=#attachment-icon /></svg><div class=chatlog__attachment-generic-name><a href=media-ose/supplier-connect-datasheet_tcm228-266641-3F101.pdf> supplier-connect-datasheet_tcm228-266641.pdf </a></div><div class=chatlog__attachment-generic-size>459.52 KB</div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1352705640287703040 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1352705640287703040><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, March 21, 2025 7:09 PM">7:09 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Instead of using the S1000D specification, I would create an open source version of the specification that is approved for use by OSHWA.</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1352705877442039940 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1352705877442039940><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, March 21, 2025 7:10 PM">7:10 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I would use YAML and Git, as well as the ISO specification that S1000D is based on.</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1352706141934718986 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1352706141934718986><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, March 21, 2025 7:11 PM">7:11 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Does anyone know who to talk to about this project? Preferably someone in OSHWA. <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="goldfishlaser">@goldfishlaser#1337</span> <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="303adastra">@303adastra</span></span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1352710418929422396 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1352710418929422396><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/bae24c3ac93c33865f03b051a72b0e87-8912D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=summersidehalfling>Summer</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1352706141934718986')"> Does anyone know who to talk to about this project? Preferably someone in OSHWA. <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="goldfishlaser">@goldfishlaser#1337</span> <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="303adastra">@303adastra</span> </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=303adastra data-user-id=457390086879969280>303adastra</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, March 21, 2025 7:28 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1352710418929422396>3/21/2025 7:28 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>What do you mean by &quot;approved for use by OSHWA&quot;?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1352720967516033127 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1352720967516033127><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/8242935291434d7f907f31028888f962-E62F3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=goldfishlaser data-user-id=526171283444989954>goldfishlaser#1337</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, March 21, 2025 8:10 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1352720967516033127>3/21/2025 8:10 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I think it would make more sense to collaborate with folks in aerospace that would publish a standard to OASIS, bc OSHWA is not so much focused on open standards, but resources for OSHW and certifying projects - <a href="https://www.oasis-open.org/">https://www.oasis-open.org/</a></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Friday, March 21, 2025 8:11 PM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.oasis-open.org/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">OASIS Open Homepage-Aug2024</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">OASIS Open is where individuals, organizations, and governments come together to solve some of the worlds biggest technical challenges through the development of open code and open standards.</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/not-for-profit%402x-150x150-1-50E1B.png> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/not-for-profit%402x-150x150-1-50E1B.png alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1352751996003815517 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1352751996003815517><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/bae24c3ac93c33865f03b051a72b0e87-8912D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/8242935291434d7f907f31028888f962-E62F3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=goldfishlaser>goldfishlaser#1337</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1352720967516033127')"> I think it would make more sense to collaborate with folks in aerospace that would publish a standard to OASIS, bc OSHWA is not so much focused on open standards, but resources for OSHW and certifying projects - <a href="https://www.oasis-open.org/">https://www.oasis-open.org/</a> </span> <span class=chatlog__reply-edited-timestamp title="Friday, March 21, 2025 8:11 PM">(edited)</span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=summersidehalfling data-user-id=952732508376690688>Summer</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, March 21, 2025 10:13 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1352751996003815517>3/21/2025 10:13 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>YAML is not recognized by OASIS as an open standard. XML is, and thats why S1000D uses XML. S1000D is not an open standard but is based on open standards. If OSHWA wants an open standard based on OASIS, it cant use YAML. If OSHWA wants YAML to do it, it will have to come up with something on its own. I dont make the rules <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1352753434486505564 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1352753434486505564><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/8242935291434d7f907f31028888f962-E62F3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=goldfishlaser data-user-id=526171283444989954>goldfishlaser#1337</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, March 21, 2025 10:19 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1352753434486505564>3/21/2025 10:19 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>neither xml nor yaml are standards. oasis is a standards consortium.</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Friday, March 21, 2025 10:38 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1352757740866375754 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1352757740866375754><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/8242935291434d7f907f31028888f962-E62F3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=goldfishlaser data-user-id=526171283444989954>goldfishlaser#1337</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, March 21, 2025 10:36 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1352757740866375754>3/21/2025 10:36 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>OASIS DITA is an open standard for XML, used for documents, and XML is appropriate for documents whereas for data it has its weaknesses, hence YAML, which is specifically named &quot;YAML aint markup language&quot; due to not solving for the same thing.</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Friday, March 21, 2025 10:44 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1352760160346574919 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1352760160346574919><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/bae24c3ac93c33865f03b051a72b0e87-8912D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/8242935291434d7f907f31028888f962-E62F3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=goldfishlaser>goldfishlaser#1337</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1352753434486505564')"> neither xml nor yaml are standards. oasis is a standards consortium. </span> <span class=chatlog__reply-edited-timestamp title="Friday, March 21, 2025 10:38 PM">(edited)</span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=summersidehalfling data-user-id=952732508376690688>Summer</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, March 21, 2025 10:45 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1352760160346574919>3/21/2025 10:45 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>XML is an open standard developed by the w3c consortium. <a href="https://www.w3.org/XML/">https://www.w3.org/XML/</a></span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1352760471660531914 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1352760471660531914><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/8242935291434d7f907f31028888f962-E62F3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=goldfishlaser data-user-id=526171283444989954>goldfishlaser#1337</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, March 21, 2025 10:47 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1352760471660531914>3/21/2025 10:47 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>its a format, markup language with a standard defined by the w3 consortium</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1352760699142537277 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1352760699142537277><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/bae24c3ac93c33865f03b051a72b0e87-8912D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=summersidehalfling data-user-id=952732508376690688>Summer</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, March 21, 2025 10:48 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1352760699142537277>3/21/2025 10:48 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Okay, the point is that OASIS doesnt use it but OSHWA does</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1352760769934000241 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1352760769934000241><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, March 21, 2025 10:48 PM">10:48 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>So I would rather develop something that OSHWA can use</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1352760821968801863 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1352760821968801863><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, March 21, 2025 10:48 PM">10:48 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>What does OSHWA use?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1352760903606734898 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1352760903606734898><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/8242935291434d7f907f31028888f962-E62F3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=goldfishlaser data-user-id=526171283444989954>goldfishlaser#1337</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, March 21, 2025 10:48 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1352760903606734898>3/21/2025 10:48 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>there is no rule that oasis has against a standard using yaml.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1352761223627804763 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1352761223627804763><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/bae24c3ac93c33865f03b051a72b0e87-8912D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=summersidehalfling data-user-id=952732508376690688>Summer</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, March 21, 2025 10:50 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1352761223627804763>3/21/2025 10:50 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>OASIS requires employer membership, and Im self-employed. Id have to join something that already exists and that OSHWA doesnt use</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1352761382424150136 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1352761382424150136><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, March 21, 2025 10:50 PM">10:50 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>What can I work on that OSHWA uses?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1352761763376005251 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1352761763376005251><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/8242935291434d7f907f31028888f962-E62F3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=goldfishlaser data-user-id=526171283444989954>goldfishlaser#1337</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, March 21, 2025 10:52 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1352761763376005251>3/21/2025 10:52 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>not true. you do not have to be a member to submit a project to oasis <a href="https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/open-projects-process/">https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/open-projects-process/</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href="https://www.oasis-open.org/author/claudia-rauchoasis-open-org/"><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Claudia Rauch</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/open-projects-process/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Open Project Rules</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">This version of the OASIS Open Project (OP) Rules was approved by the OASIS Board of Directors on 14 June 2022 and became effective immediately. The change was announced to OASIS members on 01 July 2022 in <a href="https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/members/202207/msg00000.html">https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/members/202207/msg00000.html</a> Table of Contents 1. Purpose of Open Projects 2. Project Formation 3. Role...</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1352762579440762942 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1352762579440762942><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, March 21, 2025 10:55 PM">10:55 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>same goes for having a project certified via oshwa, does not require membership.</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Friday, March 21, 2025 10:56 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1352763110339117180 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1352763110339117180><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, March 21, 2025 10:57 PM">10:57 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>if you&#39;re trying to list an open standards project -OASIS. if you&#39;re trying list an open hardware project -OSHWA.The sites have all the info you need for submitting your projects.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1352778777943605248 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1352778777943605248><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/bae24c3ac93c33865f03b051a72b0e87-8912D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=summersidehalfling>Summer</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1352761382424150136')"> What can I work on that OSHWA uses? </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=303adastra data-user-id=457390086879969280>303adastra</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, March 21, 2025 11:59 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1352778777943605248>3/21/2025 11:59 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>OSHWA is not a standards committee. Their aim is to foster community around OSHW projects. You could try submit a proposal for a talk on open standards at the Open Hardware Summit, but I doubt you&#39;ll get very far.</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=thumbsup><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=👍 src=media-ose/1f44d-27259.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1352801790285975633 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1352801790285975633><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/bae24c3ac93c33865f03b051a72b0e87-8912D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=303adastra>303adastra</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1352778777943605248')"> OSHWA is not a standards committee. Their aim is to foster community around OSHW projects. You could try submit a proposal for a talk on open standards at the Open Hardware Summit, but I doubt you&#39;ll get very far. </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=summersidehalfling data-user-id=952732508376690688>Summer</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, March 22, 2025 1:31 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1352801790285975633>3/22/2025 1:31 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Have you ever heard of DIN Spec 3105? <a href="https://webstore.ansi.org/standards/din/dinspec31052020">https://webstore.ansi.org/standards/din/dinspec31052020</a></span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1352802287373783140 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1352802287373783140><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/8242935291434d7f907f31028888f962-E62F3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=goldfishlaser data-user-id=526171283444989954>goldfishlaser#1337</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, March 22, 2025 1:33 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1352802287373783140>3/22/2025 1:33 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/DIN_SPEC_3105">https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/DIN_SPEC_3105</a>
<a href="https://openhardware.science/2020/08/27/din-spec-3105-explained/">https://openhardware.science/2020/08/27/din-spec-3105-explained/</a>
<a href="https://gitlab.com/OSEGermany/OHS-3105">https://gitlab.com/OSEGermany/OHS-3105</a></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Saturday, March 22, 2025 2:04 AM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/DIN_SPEC_3105><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">DIN SPEC 3105</div></a></div></div></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href="https://openhardware.science/author/jenny/"><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Jenny Molloy</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://openhardware.science/2020/08/27/din-spec-3105-explained/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">DIN SPEC 3105 Explained - Gathering for Open Science Hardware</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">By J&#233;r&#233;my Bonvoisin, University of Bath, cross-posted from the Journal of Open Hardware Medium account. In the past 18 months I had the pleasure to be part of a great adventure: establishing a new standard refining the contours of what we mean with “Open Source Hardware”. This standard, DIN SPEC 3105, sets a new milestone</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/1_8N74mYzxh_G16e6qUSvEcw-85463.jpeg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/1_8N74mYzxh_G16e6qUSvEcw-85463.jpeg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(236,236,239,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://gitlab.com/OSEGermany/OHS-3105><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">OSEGermany / OHS-3105 &#183; GitLab</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Open Hardware Standard Requirements for technical documentation and community-based assessment</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/twitter_card-570ddb06edf56a2312253c5872489-60AF3.jpg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/twitter_card-570ddb06edf56a2312253c5872489-60AF3.jpg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1352804057357615105 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1352804057357615105><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/8242935291434d7f907f31028888f962-E62F3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=goldfishlaser data-user-id=526171283444989954>goldfishlaser#1337</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, March 22, 2025 1:40 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1352804057357615105>3/22/2025 1:40 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>cool im checking it out</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1352804230930628628 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1352804230930628628><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/bae24c3ac93c33865f03b051a72b0e87-8912D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=summersidehalfling>Summer</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1352801790285975633')"> Have you ever heard of DIN Spec 3105? <a href="https://webstore.ansi.org/standards/din/dinspec31052020">https://webstore.ansi.org/standards/din/dinspec31052020</a> </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=303adastra data-user-id=457390086879969280>303adastra</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, March 22, 2025 1:41 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1352804230930628628>3/22/2025 1:41 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Yes. What about it?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1352805541767942324 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1352805541767942324><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/8242935291434d7f907f31028888f962-E62F3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=goldfishlaser data-user-id=526171283444989954>goldfishlaser#1337</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, March 22, 2025 1:46 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1352805541767942324>3/22/2025 1:46 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://www.internetofproduction.org/openknowhow">https://www.internetofproduction.org/openknowhow</a> related project</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1352805844412006420 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1352805844412006420><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/bae24c3ac93c33865f03b051a72b0e87-8912D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=303adastra>303adastra</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1352804230930628628')"> Yes. What about it? </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=summersidehalfling data-user-id=952732508376690688>Summer</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, March 22, 2025 1:47 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1352805844412006420>3/22/2025 1:47 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>The first rule of tech writing is to write once and reuse many times; dont reinvent the wheel</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1352806034153930903 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1352806034153930903><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, March 22, 2025 1:48 AM">1:48 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>so I need info on the state of OSHW documentation before I make any decisions on if I want to contribute to it</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1352813672379977759 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1352813672379977759><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/8242935291434d7f907f31028888f962-E62F3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=goldfishlaser data-user-id=526171283444989954>goldfishlaser#1337</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, March 22, 2025 2:18 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1352813672379977759>3/22/2025 2:18 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>aka &quot;write once, post everywhere&quot; or &quot;create once, publish everywhere&quot; or &quot;single sourcing&quot; is a useful strategy and one we often champion, although I must disagree about it being the first rule or that it means the same thing as don&#39;t reinvent the wheel. I know you may have been intending it more colloquially, but for readers&#39; sake. There are also exceptions: <a href="https://www.writethedocs.org/videos/portland/2022/don-t-shoot-yourself-in-the-foot-with-content-reuse-anna-gasparyan/">https://www.writethedocs.org/videos/portland/2022/don-t-shoot-yourself-in-the-foot-with-content-reuse-anna-gasparyan/</a></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Saturday, March 22, 2025 2:29 AM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.writethedocs.org/videos/portland/2022/don-t-shoot-yourself-in-the-foot-with-content-reuse-anna-gasparyan/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Dont shoot yourself in the foot with content reuse</div></a></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/logo-opengraph-9B200.png> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/logo-opengraph-9B200.png alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1352814626777333882 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1352814626777333882><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/bae24c3ac93c33865f03b051a72b0e87-8912D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=summersidehalfling data-user-id=952732508376690688>Summer</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, March 22, 2025 2:22 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1352814626777333882>3/22/2025 2:22 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Of course, there are exceptions</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1352815190277619852 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1352815190277619852><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/8242935291434d7f907f31028888f962-E62F3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=goldfishlaser data-user-id=526171283444989954>goldfishlaser#1337</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, March 22, 2025 2:24 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1352815190277619852>3/22/2025 2:24 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>if i picked a first rule it would be &quot;know your audience&quot; and the second rule to write with the 5Cs &quot;clear, complete, correct, concise, consistent&quot;. everything else in technical writing are the details on accomplishing those 2 things</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Saturday, March 22, 2025 2:26 AM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=heavy_check_mark><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=✔️ src=media-ose/2714-F2A1F.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>2</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1352815798305034354 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1352815798305034354><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/bae24c3ac93c33865f03b051a72b0e87-8912D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=summersidehalfling data-user-id=952732508376690688>Summer</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, March 22, 2025 2:27 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1352815798305034354>3/22/2025 2:27 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/plcs/faq.php">https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/plcs/faq.php</a></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1352815827543658536 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1352815827543658536><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, March 22, 2025 2:27 AM">2:27 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>This is what I was looking for</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=tada><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=🎉 src=media-ose/1f389-5C738.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1352827972758929509 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1352827972758929509><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/8242935291434d7f907f31028888f962-E62F3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=goldfishlaser data-user-id=526171283444989954>goldfishlaser#1337</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, March 22, 2025 3:15 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1352827972758929509>3/22/2025 3:15 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://docs.oasis-open.org/plcs/plcslib/v1.0/cs01/help/plcslib_overview_content.html">https://docs.oasis-open.org/plcs/plcslib/v1.0/cs01/help/plcslib_overview_content.html</a> indeed seems like it matches what ur looking for</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Saturday, March 22, 2025 3:30 AM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://docs.oasis-open.org/plcs/plcslib/v1.0/cs01/help/plcslib_overview_content.html><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">PLCS technical overview</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">PLCSlib.</div></div></div></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=thumbsup><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=👍 src=media-ose/1f44d-27259.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1352834118127325245 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1352834118127325245><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/bae24c3ac93c33865f03b051a72b0e87-8912D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=summersidehalfling data-user-id=952732508376690688>Summer</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, March 22, 2025 3:39 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1352834118127325245>3/22/2025 3:39 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>And <a href="http://committee.iso.org/home/tc184sc4">http://committee.iso.org/home/tc184sc4</a></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1352834320028663921 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1352834320028663921><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, March 22, 2025 3:40 AM">3:40 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>So ap239 is for medical devices and ap242 is for aerospace</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1352834875056586917 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1352834875056586917><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, March 22, 2025 3:42 AM">3:42 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Tangentially, I suspect its time to join the S1000D group of AIA also. It appears I can join ISO, too</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1352835028106608641 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1352835028106608641><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, March 22, 2025 3:43 AM">3:43 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I just really like product lifecycle design and support</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=sparkles><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt= src=media-ose/2728-DCB65.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1352839006857203733 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1352839006857203733><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/bae24c3ac93c33865f03b051a72b0e87-8912D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=summersidehalfling>Summer</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1352835028106608641')"> I just really like product lifecycle design and support </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=303adastra data-user-id=457390086879969280>303adastra</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, March 22, 2025 3:59 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1352839006857203733>3/22/2025 3:59 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Since it&#39;s probably lost in the chat history (or DM&#39;s), it&#39;s probably worth reiterating here... the DOF development team is aware of STEP (a.k.a., ISO 10303-239 or AP-239), but there currently aren&#39;t any development plans to support STEP any time soon. That being said, we would potentially be interested in your experience with STEP in terms of data that is essential in exchanging product lifecycle designs that we may want to incorporate into DOF.</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=thumbsup><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=👍 src=media-ose/1f44d-27259.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1352840474200641557 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1352840474200641557><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/8242935291434d7f907f31028888f962-E62F3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/bae24c3ac93c33865f03b051a72b0e87-8912D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=summersidehalfling>Summer</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1352834320028663921')"> So ap239 is for medical devices and ap242 is for aerospace </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=goldfishlaser data-user-id=526171283444989954>goldfishlaser#1337</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, March 22, 2025 4:05 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1352840474200641557>3/22/2025 4:05 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>PLCS is AP number 239 and is therefore sometimes referred to as AP239 or as &quot;ISO 10303-239&quot;. &quot;information model of ISO 10303-239 PLCS is capable of representing all the information required to cover the entire life cycle of a product. <em>It is not however, aimed at any particular business or industry domain.</em> Because it is designed to be used in many different business applications, it is a large, generic information model.&quot;</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Saturday, March 22, 2025 4:07 AM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=thumbsup><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=👍 src=media-ose/1f44d-27259.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1352844233396195409 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1352844233396195409><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/bae24c3ac93c33865f03b051a72b0e87-8912D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/8242935291434d7f907f31028888f962-E62F3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=goldfishlaser>goldfishlaser#1337</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1352840474200641557')"> PLCS is AP number 239 and is therefore sometimes referred to as AP239 or as &quot;ISO 10303-239&quot;. &quot;information model of ISO 10303-239 PLCS is capable of representing all the information required to cover the entire life cycle of a product. <em>It is not however, aimed at any particular business or industry domain.</em> Because it is designed to be used in many different business applications, it is a large, generic information model.&quot; </span> <span class=chatlog__reply-edited-timestamp title="Saturday, March 22, 2025 4:07 AM">(edited)</span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=summersidehalfling data-user-id=952732508376690688>Summer</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, March 22, 2025 4:19 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1352844233396195409>3/22/2025 4:19 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Good, because I paid $300 for it and I dont want to spend that much money on another specification if I dont have to</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1352844521200685217 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1352844521200685217><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/bae24c3ac93c33865f03b051a72b0e87-8912D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=303adastra>303adastra</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1352839006857203733')"> Since it&#39;s probably lost in the chat history (or DM&#39;s), it&#39;s probably worth reiterating here... the DOF development team is aware of STEP (a.k.a., ISO 10303-239 or AP-239), but there currently aren&#39;t any development plans to support STEP any time soon. That being said, we would potentially be interested in your experience with STEP in terms of data that is essential in exchanging product lifecycle designs that we may want to incorporate into DOF. </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=summersidehalfling data-user-id=952732508376690688>Summer</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, March 22, 2025 4:21 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1352844521200685217>3/22/2025 4:21 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>In a previous role, a colleague and I worked on converting images to STEP files for illustrated parts data files in S1000D</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1352849092866342965 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1352849092866342965><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/bae24c3ac93c33865f03b051a72b0e87-8912D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=summersidehalfling>Summer</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1352844521200685217')"> In a previous role, a colleague and I worked on converting images to STEP files for illustrated parts data files in S1000D </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=303adastra data-user-id=457390086879969280>303adastra</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, March 22, 2025 4:39 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1352849092866342965>3/22/2025 4:39 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Oh interesting. What would be the advantages of persisting images as STEP files?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1353402020358520962 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1353402020358520962><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/bae24c3ac93c33865f03b051a72b0e87-8912D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=summersidehalfling data-user-id=952732508376690688>Summer</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, March 23, 2025 5:16 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1353402020358520962>3/23/2025 5:16 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>First, STEP files are compatible with CAD tools and software, which makes them easy to share and edit. FreeCAD and KiCAD already support this file format.
STEP files are also precise, using a mathematical representation of curves known as NURBS to store data accurately. In addition, they can also read and save complete 3D models.
Finally, you can customize a STEP file. Its easy to share with others to edit or save to another computer as a backup option.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1353438117159239742 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1353438117159239742><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=303adastra data-user-id=457390086879969280>303adastra</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, March 23, 2025 7:39 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1353438117159239742>3/23/2025 7:39 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>We&#39;ve discussed tentative plans to support some kind of FreeCAD and KiCAD bindings for DOF at some point, so will definitely keep STEP in mind when that time comes</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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