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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1279210443843309600 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1279210443843309600><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=303adastra data-user-id=457390086879969280>303adastra</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, August 31, 2024 12:45 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1279210443843309600>8/31/2024 12:45 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>(Creating a thread to brainstorm this idea, but) What kind of minimum power requirements would be needed to run an EDM machine and induction heater and any reason the power supply units for both couldn't be one in the same?</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Saturday, August 31, 2024 12:47 AM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1279210561841791140 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1279210561841791140><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, August 31, 2024 12:46 AM">12:46 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="hopefulmgowner">@HopefulMGowner</span> curious if you have thoughts on this</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1279216100361633842 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1279216100361633842><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/74e3a14bf208809ed4c1ebc56dbd69e9-FDCE1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=hopefulmgowner data-user-id=662348700508749827>HopefulMGowner</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, August 31, 2024 1:08 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1279216100361633842>8/31/2024 1:08 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Wanna VC about it or text?</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1279216158108553328 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1279216158108553328><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, August 31, 2024 1:08 AM">1:08 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="303adastra">@303adastra</span></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1279216675308437666 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1279216675308437666><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, August 31, 2024 1:10 AM">1:10 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I am not an EE but IIRC an EDM machine uses high voltage to vaporise metal as it's cutting (which is why the electrodes are brass high thermal conductivity and cheap) and induction heating uses high amperage low voltage to induce eddy currents in the material to cause resistive heating</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1279218657397968998 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1279218657397968998><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/74e3a14bf208809ed4c1ebc56dbd69e9-FDCE1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=hopefulmgowner data-user-id=662348700508749827>HopefulMGowner</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, August 31, 2024 1:18 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1279218657397968998>8/31/2024 1:18 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>High amperage low voltage system you need big conductors, can use thin insulation(not a good idea as going through the insulation will kill you) expect a lot of heat build up though depending on the amperage it won't necissarily hurt you due to you <strong>dry</strong> skin having enough resistance to not complete the circuit
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High voltage(at low enough amperage) with shock the ever loving shit out of you but you can use thin conductors <strong>if</strong> you have a stable power supply go to thin and a drop in voltage will fry your board and use thick insulation, and IMO (again not an EE) pot the board make the conductors a good bit thicker then needed and pot the board in something that is a VERY good insulator and use a lot of it
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If it is high voltage and high amperage it will shock the ever loving shit out of you AND kill you</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=grimacing><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=😬 src=media-ose/1f62c-CE43C.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1279223479345877133 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1279223479345877133><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/74e3a14bf208809ed4c1ebc56dbd69e9-FDCE1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=hopefulmgowner data-user-id=662348700508749827>HopefulMGowner</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, August 31, 2024 1:37 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1279223479345877133>8/31/2024 1:37 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Why do you want a combo power supply? <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="303adastra">@303adastra</span>?</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1279224030334943274 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1279224030334943274><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, August 31, 2024 1:39 AM">1:39 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I think the Rack Robotics power supply(which is open source btw) will do just fine for EDM. Sizing a induction power supply depends on a few things what do you wanna heat, how much of it, what shape is it, how fast do you need to heat it etc</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1279234587251441775 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1279234587251441775><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, August 31, 2024 2:21 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1279234587251441775>8/31/2024 2:21 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>The rack robotics power supply is non commercial which doesn’t fit the oshw definition :((((</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=slight_frown><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=🙁 src=media-ose/1f641-E1429.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1279237185727627285 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1279237185727627285><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/74e3a14bf208809ed4c1ebc56dbd69e9-FDCE1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=hopefulmgowner>HopefulMGowner</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1279223479345877133')"> Why do you want a combo power supply? <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="303adastra">@303adastra</span>? </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=303adastra data-user-id=457390086879969280>303adastra</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, August 31, 2024 2:31 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1279237185727627285>8/31/2024 2:31 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Mostly to be able to say it's multi-use, but if I have to build two separate designs then such is life</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1279237462761144361 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1279237462761144361><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/74e3a14bf208809ed4c1ebc56dbd69e9-FDCE1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=hopefulmgowner>HopefulMGowner</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1279218657397968998')"> High amperage low voltage system you need big conductors, can use thin insulation(not a good idea as going through the insulation will kill you) expect a lot of heat build up though depending on the amperage it won't necissarily hurt you due to you <strong>dry</strong> skin having enough resistance to not complete the circuit
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High voltage(at low enough amperage) with shock the ever loving shit out of you but you can use thin conductors <strong>if</strong> you have a stable power supply go to thin and a drop in voltage will fry your board and use thick insulation, and IMO (again not an EE) pot the board make the conductors a good bit thicker then needed and pot the board in something that is a VERY good insulator and use a lot of it
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If it is high voltage and high amperage it will shock the ever loving shit out of you AND kill you </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=303adastra data-user-id=457390086879969280>303adastra</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, August 31, 2024 2:32 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1279237462761144361>8/31/2024 2:32 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Makes sense. One needs high voltage; the other needs high average</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1279240154883559455 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1279240154883559455><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/74e3a14bf208809ed4c1ebc56dbd69e9-FDCE1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich>Alexa</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1279234587251441775')"> The rack robotics power supply is non commercial which doesn’t fit the oshw definition :(((( </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=hopefulmgowner data-user-id=662348700508749827>HopefulMGowner</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, August 31, 2024 2:43 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1279240154883559455>8/31/2024 2:43 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Thats no good</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1279240303920025632 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1279240303920025632><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, August 31, 2024 2:44 AM">2:44 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Though they should all work in a similar way so you could just figure out how it works then design your own</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1279241046773207091 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1279241046773207091><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/74e3a14bf208809ed4c1ebc56dbd69e9-FDCE1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=303adastra>303adastra</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1279237185727627285')"> Mostly to be able to say it's multi-use, but if I have to build two separate designs then such is life </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=hopefulmgowner data-user-id=662348700508749827>HopefulMGowner</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, August 31, 2024 2:47 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1279241046773207091>8/31/2024 2:47 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>The good news is the power needed for an induction furnace or forge should be similar to the power needed for a welder</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=eyes><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=👀 src=media-ose/1f440-6C64D.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1279265409274478684 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1279265409274478684><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/74e3a14bf208809ed4c1ebc56dbd69e9-FDCE1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=hopefulmgowner data-user-id=662348700508749827>HopefulMGowner</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, August 31, 2024 4:24 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1279265409274478684>8/31/2024 4:24 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="303adastra">@303adastra</span> are you an EE?</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1279265461757935637 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1279265461757935637><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, August 31, 2024 4:24 AM">4:24 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>(Electrical engineer)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1279277088960020481 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1279277088960020481><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/74e3a14bf208809ed4c1ebc56dbd69e9-FDCE1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=hopefulmgowner>HopefulMGowner</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1279265409274478684')"> <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="303adastra">@303adastra</span> are you an EE? </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=303adastra data-user-id=457390086879969280>303adastra</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, August 31, 2024 5:10 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1279277088960020481>8/31/2024 5:10 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>no, former MechE</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1279277736371687594 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1279277736371687594><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/74e3a14bf208809ed4c1ebc56dbd69e9-FDCE1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=hopefulmgowner>HopefulMGowner</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1279224030334943274')"> I think the Rack Robotics power supply(which is open source btw) will do just fine for EDM. Sizing a induction power supply depends on a few things what do you wanna heat, how much of it, what shape is it, how fast do you need to heat it etc </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=303adastra data-user-id=457390086879969280>303adastra</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, August 31, 2024 5:13 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1279277736371687594>8/31/2024 5:13 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I did see the RackRobotics power supply. Will probably start with that as a first pass at building an EDM machine then decide later whether I want to redesign it just to get around the non commercial license, if that's even enforceable</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1279277737478983734 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1279277737478983734><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/def5e0a7ff07e73d477a87df10a3dc4f-BFBB1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(153,45,34) title=Arcane#7800 data-user-id=437808476106784770>Arcane</span> <span class=chatlog__author-tag>BOT</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, August 31, 2024 5:13 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1279277737478983734>8/31/2024 5:13 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="303adastra">@303adastra</span> has reached level <strong>12</strong>. GG!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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