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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1147589504857817279 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1147589504857817279><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=303adastra data-user-id=457390086879969280>303adastra</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, September 2, 2023 7:50 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1147589504857817279>9/2/2023 7:50 PM</a></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1147589507298885702 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1147589507298885702><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, September 2, 2023 7:50 PM">7:50 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>OSHWA recently started up a working group (which I happen to be on) to try and address the needs for open standards <a href="https://github.com/oshwa/oshw-standards">https://github.com/oshwa/oshw-standards</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(30,35,39,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://github.com/oshwa/oshw-standards><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">GitHub - oshwa/oshw-standards: Open Source Hardware Standards</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Open Source Hardware Standards. Contribute to oshwa/oshw-standards development by creating an account on GitHub.</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/oshw-standards-D7727> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/oshw-standards-D7727 alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1148244771349995520 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1148244771349995520><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/ac387c8f9c811c4255a7a524df14b736-E8063.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=303adastra>303adastra</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1147589507298885702')"> OSHWA recently started up a working group (which I happen to be on) to try and address the needs for open standards <a href="https://github.com/oshwa/oshw-standards">https://github.com/oshwa/oshw-standards</a> </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=katbotretirementfund data-user-id=1127306683929067640>Anne vs the Gang</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, September 4, 2023 3:14 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1148244771349995520>9/4/2023 3:14 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Great, let us know how it goes, eager to know more about scope, implementation & milestones ..
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1148317274256707635 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1148317274256707635><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/ac387c8f9c811c4255a7a524df14b736-E8063.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=katbotretirementfund data-user-id=1127306683929067640>Anne vs the Gang</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, September 4, 2023 8:02 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1148317274256707635>9/4/2023 8:02 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Just tried to wrap my mind around 'standards', and, can't actually find it's place yet. From a pure practical point of view (code, toolkits), that's the pipe I end up with: policies -> specs -> templates -> validation. hope it helps,
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1148656973064196307 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1148656973064196307><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=303adastra data-user-id=457390086879969280>303adastra</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, September 5, 2023 6:32 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1148656973064196307>9/5/2023 6:32 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="katbotretirementfund">@Anne vs the Gang</span> At the moment, we're focused on developing a YAML-based modeling language for developing domain-specific language(s) (DSLs) for describing a framework for open-source hardware, as well as for describing project management, quality control, and configuration management standards (s.a., ISO 9001). We picked YAML as the syntax of choice for its compatibility with template languages (s.a., jinja2), ability to perform CRUD operations on, as well as its line-oriented human-readable asciitext for its compatibility with modern version control systems (s.a., git) and persistence on the local filesystem. Our first pass milestone is to develop the minimal language constructs needed to model a set of terms and acronyms.</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1148658244353544192 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1148658244353544192><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, September 5, 2023 6:37 PM">6:37 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>It's a volunteer effort, so more than happy to accept help, if you're interested <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1148685763303702570 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1148685763303702570><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/ac387c8f9c811c4255a7a524df14b736-E8063.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=303adastra>303adastra</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1148656973064196307')"> <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="katbotretirementfund">@Anne vs the Gang</span> At the moment, we're focused on developing a YAML-based modeling language for developing domain-specific language(s) (DSLs) for describing a framework for open-source hardware, as well as for describing project management, quality control, and configuration management standards (s.a., ISO 9001). We picked YAML as the syntax of choice for its compatibility with template languages (s.a., jinja2), ability to perform CRUD operations on, as well as its line-oriented human-readable asciitext for its compatibility with modern version control systems (s.a., git) and persistence on the local filesystem. Our first pass milestone is to develop the minimal language constructs needed to model a set of terms and acronyms. </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=katbotretirementfund data-user-id=1127306683929067640>Anne vs the Gang</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, September 5, 2023 8:27 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1148685763303702570>9/5/2023 8:27 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Thanks for the insights, much appriciated. There's 'dhall' for this kind of scenarios (compiles to JSON & YAML, ...) as well. <a href="https://dhall-lang.org/">https://dhall-lang.org/</a>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1148692733226139769 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1148692733226139769><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/ac387c8f9c811c4255a7a524df14b736-E8063.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=katbotretirementfund data-user-id=1127306683929067640>Anne vs the Gang</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, September 5, 2023 8:54 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1148692733226139769>9/5/2023 8:54 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Needless to say, and just for the interested reader. Biggest pain remains, to have type safety across config / data files, and your scripting and/or markup language - well, and authoring aids as auto-completion (vscode plugins or web based IDEs). There are a couple of Typescript packages as 'class transformer', and the like but never got anything clean ..</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1148836452747198535 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1148836452747198535><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=303adastra data-user-id=457390086879969280>303adastra</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, September 6, 2023 6:25 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1148836452747198535>9/6/2023 6:25 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Regarding typesafety, m30ml (the in-development modeling language for describing a standard) is building off LinkML - a modeling language for authoring YAML-based schemas, whose runtime includes schema validators <a href="https://linkml.io/linkml/">https://linkml.io/linkml/</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=eyes><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=👀 src=media-ose/1f440-6C64D.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1148838496245665842 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1148838496245665842><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=303adastra data-user-id=457390086879969280>303adastra</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, September 6, 2023 6:34 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1148838496245665842>9/6/2023 6:34 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Though, we've found the runtime implementation to be a bit lacking, as it struggles a bit with validating behaviors we need, s.a., polymorphism, so we're in the process of having to reimplement parts of the runtime</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1148864221044547624 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1148864221044547624><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/ac387c8f9c811c4255a7a524df14b736-E8063.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=katbotretirementfund data-user-id=1127306683929067640>Anne vs the Gang</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, September 6, 2023 8:16 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1148864221044547624>9/6/2023 8:16 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Holy moly, thanks a lot ! Didn't know about linkml <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1148967903509618728 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1148967903509618728><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/ac387c8f9c811c4255a7a524df14b736-E8063.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/ac387c8f9c811c4255a7a524df14b736-E8063.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=katbotretirementfund>Anne vs the Gang</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1148864318742462515')"> how you're planning to edit it, gui, ... ? </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=katbotretirementfund data-user-id=1127306683929067640>Anne vs the Gang</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, September 6, 2023 3:08 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1148967903509618728>9/6/2023 3:08 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>There's now VSCode for the Web : <a href="https://insiders.vscode.dev/">https://insiders.vscode.dev/</a>. To enable version control, you could use Gitea API, as VFS - I've got a prototype for GitHub as well <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1149004543644942416 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1149004543644942416><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/ac387c8f9c811c4255a7a524df14b736-E8063.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=katbotretirementfund data-user-id=1127306683929067640>Anne vs the Gang</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, September 6, 2023 5:33 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1149004543644942416>9/6/2023 5:33 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Kept scratching my head ( i am soo & too excited about ) - what's the objective for 'Open Standards' (OSHW wise) ? Is it writing standards, or just defining standards for OSHW ? Either way, this is a deep rabbit hole, in many aspects. Here for instance ISO : <a href="http://files.osr-plastic.org/files/resources/standards/ISO/">http://files.osr-plastic.org/files/resources/standards/ISO/</a> - a nightmare to redo, and maintain.</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1149005834840453230 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1149005834840453230><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, September 6, 2023 5:38 PM">5:38 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I think in most DIY'ish / Semi-Pro scenarios, a best practice guide to jump start OSHW project might do just fine. That are the artefacts I came across</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-4B84A.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-4B84A.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (80.05 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1149399407880577107 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1149399407880577107><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=303adastra data-user-id=457390086879969280>303adastra</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, September 7, 2023 7:42 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1149399407880577107>9/7/2023 7:42 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>at the moment, m30ml is being developed as a minimal modeling language needed to CRUD and persist an open standard (and its implementation) on the local filesystem. You can read about it or watch this presentation that was given at the Southern California Linux Expo that explains how it can about <a href="https://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale/20x/presentations/fire-smoke-and-open-source-hardware">https://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale/20x/presentations/fire-smoke-and-open-source-hardware</a></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Thursday, September 7, 2023 7:52 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1149401646347071568 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1149401646347071568><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=303adastra data-user-id=457390086879969280>303adastra</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, September 7, 2023 7:51 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1149401646347071568>9/7/2023 7:51 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>As far as editing, we put together an "immutable-infrastructure-as-code" (IIaC) workspace / dev environment containing the necessary tooling (s.a., the linkml runtime) specifically for development of the language <a href="https://github.com/mach30/kasm-dof-workspace">https://github.com/mach30/kasm-dof-workspace</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(30,35,39,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://github.com/mach30/kasm-dof-workspace><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">GitHub - Mach30/kasm-dof-workspace: Mach 30 Distributed OSHW Framew...</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Mach 30 Distributed OSHW Framework Workspace (Kasm Image) - GitHub - Mach30/kasm-dof-workspace: Mach 30 Distributed OSHW Framework Workspace (Kasm Image)</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/kasm-dof-workspace-210CD> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/kasm-dof-workspace-210CD alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1149460842539122830 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1149460842539122830><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/ac387c8f9c811c4255a7a524df14b736-E8063.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=303adastra>303adastra</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1149399407880577107')"> at the moment, m30ml is being developed as a minimal modeling language needed to CRUD and persist an open standard (and its implementation) on the local filesystem. You can read about it or watch this presentation that was given at the Southern California Linux Expo that explains how it can about <a href="https://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale/20x/presentations/fire-smoke-and-open-source-hardware">https://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale/20x/presentations/fire-smoke-and-open-source-hardware</a> </span> <span class=chatlog__reply-edited-timestamp title="Thursday, September 7, 2023 7:52 PM">(edited)</span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=katbotretirementfund data-user-id=1127306683929067640>Anne vs the Gang</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, September 7, 2023 11:47 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1149460842539122830>9/7/2023 11:47 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Thank you, yes, I went through most and can't still make much sense of it, at least not outside the lab <img
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