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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-800849379157082152 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=800849379157082152><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, January 18, 2021 11:09 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-800849379157082152>1/18/2021 11:09 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I just found this channel, and i love their &quot;chaotic maker&quot; energy (they are also less edgy than michael reeves etc, which is nice):
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/c/SufficientlyAdvanced/videos">https://www.youtube.com/c/SufficientlyAdvanced/videos</a></span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-800851286600843274 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=800851286600843274><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, January 18, 2021 11:17 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-800851286600843274>1/18/2021 11:17 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY6IWNkGjA0">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY6IWNkGjA0</a></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-800851424639713331 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=800851424639713331><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, January 18, 2021 11:17 PM">11:17 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>This was gross as hell (pun intended), but they talk with such a calm tone lol &quot;i love how sharpening it gave it a sort of &quot;semi-gloss&quot; finish&quot;</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-809897977605783633 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=809897977605783633><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/2dc6b4c5c15d5fe8e54656c60c986c7f-74822.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(46,204,113) title=frederikcza7143 data-user-id=596513609044066308>Frederik C (ZA)</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, February 12, 2021 10:25 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-809897977605783633>2/12/2021 10:25 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>January &#39;21 Technology Digest | All the Technology News for January 2021 — Pro Robots
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8V9JFGSrMU">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8V9JFGSrMU</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCu8luTDe_Xxd2ahAXsCWX5g><div class=chatlog__embed-author>PRO ROBOTS</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8V9JFGSrMU"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">January &#39;21 Technology Digest | All the Technology News for January...</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/K8V9JFGSrMU width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-811778824785756162 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=811778824785756162><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/2dc6b4c5c15d5fe8e54656c60c986c7f-74822.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(46,204,113) title=frederikcza7143 data-user-id=596513609044066308>Frederik C (ZA)</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, February 18, 2021 2:59 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-811778824785756162>2/18/2021 2:59 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="ericlotze">@Eric Lotze</span>
Despite his many faults, one of the things I like about John Oliver is that he&#39;s constantly pushing the envelope on saying negative things about large companies, often doing entire episodes on their shady dealings.
He&#39;s practically the only mainstream media person who does this constantly, probably because he&#39;s one of the few people with enough financial backing and clout to get away with it.
Also, companies that want to attack him, probably back off, just to avoid a Streisand Effect, as illustrated in the attached segment.
(His passive aggressive &quot;kicks-in-the-balls&quot; to people who directly confront him, are masterful.)
Must be a nice position to be in.
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bml8KwCmob8">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bml8KwCmob8</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3XTzVzaHQEd30rQbuvCtTQ><div class=chatlog__embed-author>LastWeekTonight</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bml8KwCmob8"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Letter of the Week -- POM Wonderful (Web Exclusive): Last Week Toni...</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/Bml8KwCmob8 width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-811779825244438579 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=811779825244438579><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, February 18, 2021 3:03 AM">3:03 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect">https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(234,236,240,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Streisand effect</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">The Streisand effect is a social phenomenon that occurs when an attempt to hide, remove, or censor information has the unintended consequence of further publicizing that information, often via the Internet. It is named after American entertainer Barbra Streisand, whose attempt to suppress the California Coastal Records Project&#39;s photograph of h...</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/1200px-Streisand_Estate-58775.jpg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/1200px-Streisand_Estate-58775.jpg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-811976511933382657 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=811976511933382657><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/0f3577d765872e18cb9615f430effce6-128C2.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=klari data-user-id=168410986032660480>KLARI</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, February 18, 2021 4:04 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-811976511933382657>2/18/2021 4:04 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>really off topic question, but is this hole punchout standard for drop ceiling framework?</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/20210218_100430-5FA0F.jpg> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/20210218_100430-5FA0F.jpg alt="Image attachment" title="Image: 20210218_100430.jpg (1.55 MB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-811976698602061865 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=811976698602061865><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, February 18, 2021 4:05 PM">4:05 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>was thinking about getting some extra frames to convert this ceiling into a 2x2&#39; grid instead of a 2x4</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-811976792599822427 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=811976792599822427><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, February 18, 2021 4:05 PM">4:05 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>and some frame caps, if they make those, to cover this ugly beige underside</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-811976793095012362 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=811976793095012362><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/def5e0a7ff07e73d477a87df10a3dc4f-BFBB1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(153,45,34) title=Arcane#7800 data-user-id=437808476106784770>Arcane</span> <span class=chatlog__author-tag>BOT</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, February 18, 2021 4:05 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-811976793095012362>2/18/2021 4:05 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="klari">@KLARI</span> has reached level <strong>16</strong>. GG!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-812055536169123920 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=812055536169123920><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, February 18, 2021 9:18 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-812055536169123920>2/18/2021 9:18 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I don&#39;t know but i know drop ceilings allow you to do all sorts of stuff cables/lights wise (saw something on someone who made each one a &quot;DMX Controlled RGBW Light&quot; or like...practical stuff lol</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-812055579690401812 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=812055579690401812><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, February 18, 2021 9:18 PM">9:18 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>ALSO <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="frederikcza7143">@Frederik C (ZA)</span> I LOVE JOHN OLIVER</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-812055787454726184 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=812055787454726184><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, February 18, 2021 9:19 PM">9:19 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>granted the humor aspect can make sharing the comment/arguement...complex (although not as bad as contrapoints etc...) i want a &quot;sterilized for centrists&quot; or something co-release</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-812056258143977563 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=812056258143977563><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, February 18, 2021 9:21 PM">9:21 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Some of my favorite episodes:
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UN8bJb8biZU">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UN8bJb8biZU</a></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Thursday, February 18, 2021 9:25 PM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3XTzVzaHQEd30rQbuvCtTQ><div class=chatlog__embed-author>LastWeekTonight</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UN8bJb8biZU"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">SLAPP Suits: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/UN8bJb8biZU width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-812056291123396609 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=812056291123396609><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, February 18, 2021 9:21 PM">9:21 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>e a t s h i t b o b</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-812057189107630162 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=812057189107630162><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, February 18, 2021 9:25 PM">9:25 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UsHHOCH4q8">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UsHHOCH4q8</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3XTzVzaHQEd30rQbuvCtTQ><div class=chatlog__embed-author>LastWeekTonight</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UsHHOCH4q8"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Tobacco: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/6UsHHOCH4q8 width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-812057236545339442 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=812057236545339442><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, February 18, 2021 9:25 PM">9:25 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9wHzt6gBgI">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9wHzt6gBgI</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3XTzVzaHQEd30rQbuvCtTQ><div class=chatlog__embed-author>LastWeekTonight</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9wHzt6gBgI"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Chickens: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/X9wHzt6gBgI width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-812057419601149956 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=812057419601149956><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, February 18, 2021 9:26 PM">9:26 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Or the running gag about AT&amp;T&#39;s shitty service</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-812057478056509450 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=812057478056509450><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, February 18, 2021 9:26 PM">9:26 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>ALSO</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-812057481382461520 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=812057481382461520><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, February 18, 2021 9:26 PM">9:26 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPXuw8SJfFI">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPXuw8SJfFI</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6uKrU_WqJ1R2HMTY3LIx5Q><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Everyday Astronaut</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPXuw8SJfFI"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Watch NASA land the Perseverance Rover on Mars!</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/iPXuw8SJfFI width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-812057957402935296 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=812057957402935296><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, February 18, 2021 9:28 PM">9:28 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Also just in case y&#39;all haven&#39;t heard:
<a href="https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/feb/17/tucker-carlson/tucker-carlson-falsely-blames-green-new-deal-wind-/">https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/feb/17/tucker-carlson/tucker-carlson-falsely-blames-green-new-deal-wind-/</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/feb/17/tucker-carlson/tucker-carlson-falsely-blames-green-new-deal-wind-/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">PolitiFact - Tucker Carlson falsely blames Green New Deal, wind ene...</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">More than 4 million Texans were forced to bear single-digit temperatures without heat or power this week when a polar vo/&gt;</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/tom_ruling_pof-F63B2.png> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/tom_ruling_pof-F63B2.png alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-812149324062523402 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=812149324062523402><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/0f3577d765872e18cb9615f430effce6-128C2.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=klari data-user-id=168410986032660480>KLARI</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, February 19, 2021 3:31 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-812149324062523402>2/19/2021 3:31 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>wait, <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="ericlotze">@Eric Lotze</span>, RGBW LEDs for drop ceilings???</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-812149359407792148 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=812149359407792148><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, February 19, 2021 3:31 AM">3:31 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><img
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src="media-ose/665264936880046110-22D09.png"></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-812149367926554664 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=812149367926554664><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, February 19, 2021 3:31 AM">3:31 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>do tell?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-812187385349275669 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=812187385349275669><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/2dc6b4c5c15d5fe8e54656c60c986c7f-74822.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(46,204,113) title=frederikcza7143 data-user-id=596513609044066308>Frederik C (ZA)</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, February 19, 2021 6:02 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-812187385349275669>2/19/2021 6:02 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--inline">I LOVE JOHN OLIVER</code>
Well then... some compilations.
John Oliver
Trashing AT &amp; T
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T87urVUlD-E">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T87urVUlD-E</a>
Trashing brands
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqS7sddUVH4">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqS7sddUVH4</a>
(Not everything he&#39;s done, of course.)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-812187386229293076 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=812187386229293076><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/def5e0a7ff07e73d477a87df10a3dc4f-BFBB1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(153,45,34) title=Arcane#7800 data-user-id=437808476106784770>Arcane</span> <span class=chatlog__author-tag>BOT</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, February 19, 2021 6:02 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-812187386229293076>2/19/2021 6:02 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="frederikcza7143">@Frederik C (ZA)</span> has reached level <strong>9</strong>. GG!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-812187954079858688 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=812187954079858688><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/2dc6b4c5c15d5fe8e54656c60c986c7f-74822.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(46,204,113) title=frederikcza7143 data-user-id=596513609044066308>Frederik C (ZA)</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, February 19, 2021 6:04 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-812187954079858688>2/19/2021 6:04 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Yeah, keep sucking up, bot. You&#39;ll get nothing from me. I&#39;m onto you... <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-812230562903097356 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=812230562903097356><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/2dc6b4c5c15d5fe8e54656c60c986c7f-74822.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(46,204,113) title=frederikcza7143 data-user-id=596513609044066308>Frederik C (ZA)</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, February 19, 2021 8:54 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-812230562903097356>2/19/2021 8:54 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>NASA trying to be less nerdy is adorably sad...
I recently realized the historical connection between the public interest in the Apollo missions and one of the worst political areas in modern history (commonly &quot;sold&quot; to us in the media as a time of &quot;progress&quot; and &quot;hope.&quot;)
It&#39;s happening again...
supposedly &quot;smart&quot; people preferring to both mentally and literally live on another planet, because they don&#39;t want to deal with this one.
Well, you can ignore reality only up to a point. And then it kills you.</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-812230763373658112 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=812230763373658112><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, February 19, 2021 8:55 AM">8:55 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Oliver sort of addressed this cyclical nature of public narrative, a while back.
But it&#39;s still extremely narrow and simplistic, if you expand it beyond US borders. (Which Americans, generally, are mentally incapable of.)
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsxukOPEdgg">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsxukOPEdgg</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3XTzVzaHQEd30rQbuvCtTQ><div class=chatlog__embed-author>LastWeekTonight</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsxukOPEdgg"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">U.S. History: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/hsxukOPEdgg width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-812482082948775946 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=812482082948775946><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, February 20, 2021 1:33 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-812482082948775946>2/20/2021 1:33 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I kind of look on space as untouched by <em>gestures vaugley</em> this, AND it will take much longer to &quot;get there&quot; so i feel we may be able to NOT mess it up and actually do things &quot;right from the start&quot; for once</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-812744042591813684 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=812744042591813684><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/3-FB033.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze>Eric Lotze</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'812482082948775946')"> I kind of look on space as untouched by <em>gestures vaugley</em> this, AND it will take much longer to &quot;get there&quot; so i feel we may be able to NOT mess it up and actually do things &quot;right from the start&quot; for once </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title="Deleted User" data-user-id=456226577798135808>Deleted User</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, February 20, 2021 6:54 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-812744042591813684>2/20/2021 6:54 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Yeah</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-813309649901584477 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=813309649901584477><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/2dc6b4c5c15d5fe8e54656c60c986c7f-74822.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(46,204,113) title=frederikcza7143 data-user-id=596513609044066308>Frederik C (ZA)</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, February 22, 2021 8:22 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-813309649901584477>2/22/2021 8:22 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><em>[Sigh]</em>... OK, Zoomer... <img
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<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJoSdDZecmc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJoSdDZecmc</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyvaZ2RHEDrgKXz43gz7CbQ><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Redacted Tonight</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJoSdDZecmc"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Catastrophe Capitalism Has Gone Intergalactic</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/cJoSdDZecmc width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-814081610101030922 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=814081610101030922><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/2dc6b4c5c15d5fe8e54656c60c986c7f-74822.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(46,204,113) title=frederikcza7143 data-user-id=596513609044066308>Frederik C (ZA)</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, February 24, 2021 11:29 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-814081610101030922>2/24/2021 11:29 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>More on our ol&#39; pal, Bill...
(Not mentioned in the video: The South African government has opted to re-sell or swap the Oxford vaccine, because it is only 30% effective against our variant of the C-19 virus.)
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtW4reb6zXQ">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtW4reb6zXQ</a>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvjwYgu1Mgg">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvjwYgu1Mgg</a></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Wednesday, February 24, 2021 11:35 AM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvlj0IzjSnNoduQF0l3VGng><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Some More News</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtW4reb6zXQ"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">How Rich People Keep Screwing Up Global Health - SOME MORE NEWS</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/KtW4reb6zXQ width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3M7l8ved_rYQ45AVzS0RGA><div class=chatlog__embed-author>The Jimmy Dore Show</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvjwYgu1Mgg"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">What Is Bill Gates Up To? w/Max Blumenthal</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/wvjwYgu1Mgg width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-814842961610539030 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=814842961610539030><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/2dc6b4c5c15d5fe8e54656c60c986c7f-74822.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(46,204,113) title=frederikcza7143 data-user-id=596513609044066308>Frederik C (ZA)</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, February 26, 2021 1:55 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-814842961610539030>2/26/2021 1:55 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>FYI...
In South Africa, I actually have spoken to adult people who really have never heard of dinosaurs before.
Those conversations were easier than trying to discuss objective reality with Americans, online.
Like when I say IQ does not correlate with societal success, and an American college student reacts as if I&#39;ve proposed a flat Earth theory.
Of course, it&#39;s always possible that I&#39;m dealing with a troll and not an actual fucking retard (very impressed with himself, because his daddy got him into an ivy league school).
But, is finding out which it is, a good use of my time? I don&#39;t think so.
Also... I could completely ruin Elon Musk for you if you want, but I&#39;ll need some time...
The cult is strong with that one. There aren&#39;t that many convenient compilation videos.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-814873096548384809 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=814873096548384809><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/4-4551A.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=homunkoloss7384 data-user-id=693083655765098546>homunkoloss</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, February 26, 2021 3:54 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-814873096548384809>2/26/2021 3:54 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I mean isn&#39;t the point not &quot;ruining&quot; things, but trying to actually progress? I think that many people are doing many things in varying degrees and dimensions of good. There is evidence (e.g. from Givewell) that for example The Against Malaria Foundation which is supported by Gates is saving lives. You might not agree with some of the underlying assumptions about what is good, or effective altruism and its (perceived?) alignment with capitalism etc. But even still, I think it&#39;s not productive to antagonize them. Just do your own stuff and ignore them. Especially if its the &quot;World Controlling Elite&quot;. What does it help to criticise them? I think its mostly procrastination instead of actually doing something productive.</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=thumbsup><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=👍 src=media-ose/1f44d-27259.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-814873097563537408 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=814873097563537408><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/def5e0a7ff07e73d477a87df10a3dc4f-BFBB1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(153,45,34) title=Arcane#7800 data-user-id=437808476106784770>Arcane</span> <span class=chatlog__author-tag>BOT</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, February 26, 2021 3:54 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-814873097563537408>2/26/2021 3:54 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="homunkoloss7384">@homunkoloss</span> has reached level <strong>2</strong>. GG!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-814874038614622259 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=814874038614622259><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/4-4551A.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=homunkoloss7384 data-user-id=693083655765098546>homunkoloss</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, February 26, 2021 3:58 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-814874038614622259>2/26/2021 3:58 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Even if you believe in a revolution against the elite, I think that a positive motivation is needed for that to not go to shit immediately. That&#39;s what I like about OSE and other similar initiatives, its practical and pragmatic, though I have to admit that I didn&#39;t contribute much to that so far.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-814875974058377236 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=814875974058377236><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/4-4551A.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=homunkoloss7384 data-user-id=693083655765098546>homunkoloss</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, February 26, 2021 4:06 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-814875974058377236>2/26/2021 4:06 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I think that in this scenario, new elites/leaders/oppressors will arise pretty quickly therefore &quot;destroying capitalism&quot; will lead to more much harsher capitalism if you don&#39;t provide alternative structures. That is more or less outlined why I believe in reform and making things better instead of burning everything down and building it anew</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-814877818755743814 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=814877818755743814><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/4-4551A.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=homunkoloss7384 data-user-id=693083655765098546>homunkoloss</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, February 26, 2021 4:13 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-814877818755743814>2/26/2021 4:13 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>on the note of anti-american sentiment, I am quite unhappy with many things my own government does. I do try to influence that in small possibly irrelevant ways (voting, even being a party member, participation in local volunteering efforts, ...) but I don&#39;t feel quite responsible about what my government does. But if now someone from a foreign country criticised &quot;the Austrians&quot; it would make me wonder whether they are not in exactly the same position in their country. So is that just lack of awareness? I usually think it is when seeing other Austrians criticise &quot;The Americans&quot; (meaning US Americans).</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-814893626227556392 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=814893626227556392><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/2dc6b4c5c15d5fe8e54656c60c986c7f-74822.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(46,204,113) title=frederikcza7143 data-user-id=596513609044066308>Frederik C (ZA)</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, February 26, 2021 5:16 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-814893626227556392>2/26/2021 5:16 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Those are horrifying sentiments. But okay...
And yes, I do hate America.
And I was upfront about that, weeks ago.
Several World-famous American academics share my sentiments.
So, is it like the &quot;N-word&quot;? Only some people are allowed to say it?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-814894008999739423 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=814894008999739423><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/4-4551A.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=homunkoloss7384 data-user-id=693083655765098546>homunkoloss</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, February 26, 2021 5:17 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-814894008999739423>2/26/2021 5:17 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I&#39;m afraid I don&#39;t understand what you mean. What good does it do (you) to hate America?</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-814894358696427590 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=814894358696427590><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, February 26, 2021 5:19 PM">5:19 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>What are only some people allowed to say? That they hate America? I wouldn&#39;t say someone is not allowed to say that, I just find it hard to understand what they even mean by &quot;America&quot;.</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-814894537557278780 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=814894537557278780><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, February 26, 2021 5:19 PM">5:19 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>And what do you find horrifying?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-814900549551783976 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=814900549551783976><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/2dc6b4c5c15d5fe8e54656c60c986c7f-74822.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(46,204,113) title=frederikcza7143 data-user-id=596513609044066308>Frederik C (ZA)</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, February 26, 2021 5:43 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-814900549551783976>2/26/2021 5:43 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>This is the Catch-22 situation I&#39;ve talked about before (that got a similar response.)
To a non-American that&#39;s like a &quot;What&#39;s a dinosaur?&quot; question.
It may be based on honest ignorance, which is fine.
But trying to come up with a concise answer (which is likely to be insufficient), or a long answer, drawn out over several days, (that might not be believed) is an exercise in futility.
I could add that it&#39;s interesting how foreigners always need to adjust their views, but Americans don&#39;t need to.
(And I already know that telling Americans there are things they don&#39;t understand, specifically because they are Americans, is an almost guaranteed &quot;table flip.&quot; People from other countries find that strange about you. Yes, <em><strong>really</strong></em>.)
Also, I specifically called this channel &quot;off-topic.&quot; Feel free to ignore it.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-814907949465206835 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=814907949465206835><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/4-4551A.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=homunkoloss7384 data-user-id=693083655765098546>homunkoloss</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, February 26, 2021 6:13 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-814907949465206835>2/26/2021 6:13 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I think that generally online discussions are often not helpful, same goes for Telegram and the like, but I am actually procrastinating, I should much rather study <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="😉"
title="wink"
src="media-ose/1f609-9EC67.svg"> .
Also I am &quot;people from other countries&quot; and there are some things I find weird/chauvinistic/despicable about the US and about certain patterns or cultures therein, but there I also see such things in my own culture and the people living around me, and I am sure that it is similar in South Africa and any other country as well.
And I also don&#39;t get what you want to achieve by telling Americans that there are things they don&#39;t understand specifically because they are Americans. Surely there are things you don&#39;t understand because you are South African, or Poor, or Rich, or a Postgraduate in Philology or whatever. My girlfriend often tells me that I don&#39;t understand her perception of reality and that is probably true. But if you say something like &quot;I hate Austria, you are Austrian and you can never understand&quot; that sounds condescending and I am not sure how such a statement could do any good.
I am also confronted with the issue of talking to people that are maybe wilfully ignorant, but I think that also there a mindset of learning and teaching, as in: let me understand your position and let me tell you about mine and how I got to it, is most helpful.
I am genuinely interested in your views because I was confronted with &quot;Country bashing&quot; a few times and I am never quite sure what to make of it. How should we criticise our own country vs other countries? Should there be a difference even? How do you feel about a statement like &quot;I hate (South) Africa&quot;? For example a Russian colleague of mine would get upset if I would say negative things about Russia, and not because she is a Nationalist or thinks that Russia is great, but because she would see it as rude for me to judge her country of origin.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-814917161512206346 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=814917161512206346><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/2dc6b4c5c15d5fe8e54656c60c986c7f-74822.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(46,204,113) title=frederikcza7143 data-user-id=596513609044066308>Frederik C (ZA)</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, February 26, 2021 6:49 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-814917161512206346>2/26/2021 6:49 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Here&#39;s another thing you might or might not believe:
There&#39;s literally a huge wildfire heading straight for my town, right now.
So, yeah... this conversation: Not a priority.
And after two days, all is forgotten.
That&#39;s how Discord works.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-814917738694311947 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=814917738694311947><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/4-4551A.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=homunkoloss7384 data-user-id=693083655765098546>homunkoloss</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, February 26, 2021 6:52 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-814917738694311947>2/26/2021 6:52 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Oh, that sounds terrible, I hope its extinguished soon...</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-814920089786122302 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=814920089786122302><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/2dc6b4c5c15d5fe8e54656c60c986c7f-74822.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(46,204,113) title=frederikcza7143 data-user-id=596513609044066308>Frederik C (ZA)</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, February 26, 2021 7:01 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-814920089786122302>2/26/2021 7:01 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>It&#39;s more a case of me saying that the person needs more education than I can realistically give them.
It&#39;s me &quot;waving the white flag.&quot; I can bow out of a conversation with someone saying &quot;Dinosaurs are a lie,&quot; without conceding that I&#39;m wrong. I&#39;m allowed to do that.
And I can&#39;t think of a South African I know, Black or White, that would be offended by someone hating our country. They would give zero fucks. Because those who supposedly &quot;love&quot; us, treat us so badly, that the words have no actual meaning.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-815153397556445225 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=815153397556445225><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/2dc6b4c5c15d5fe8e54656c60c986c7f-74822.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(46,204,113) title=frederikcza7143 data-user-id=596513609044066308>Frederik C (ZA)</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, February 27, 2021 10:28 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-815153397556445225>2/27/2021 10:28 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Also, much like America has been doing for the last several hundred years (with impunity), in the 20th Century, South Africa was responsible and globally sanctioned for what was <em><strong>literally</strong></em> described as &quot;a crime against humanity.&quot;
Before Occupy, Extinction Rebellion and BLM, the anti-Apartheid Movement was the single biggest, sustained protest movement in World history. Directed <strong>entirely</strong> at my country.
So, after 50 years of that, you <em>think</em>, maybe there <em>might</em> still be a lot of people around World who genuinely hate South Africa?
Ummm.... Yeah... No shit, Sherlock. <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="😳"
title="flushed"
src="media-ose/1f633-5703D.svg">
Zero points for guessing correctly on that one.
<em><strong>Zero</strong></em>.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-821433223938572308 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=821433223938572308><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, March 16, 2021 6:22 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-821433223938572308>3/16/2021 6:22 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OtKEetGy2Y">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OtKEetGy2Y</a></span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-825781800097546260 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=825781800097546260><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, March 28, 2021 7:22 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-825781800097546260>3/28/2021 7:22 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>On the note of this: <a href="https://discord.com/channels/700486873272811562/700486873272811565/825781063708049450" onclick="scrollToMessage(event, '825781063708049450')">https://discord.com/channels/700486873272811562/700486873272811565/825781063708049450</a></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-825781900253593610 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=825781900253593610><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, March 28, 2021 7:22 PM">7:22 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Granted i am VERY utilitarian/pragmatic so that is where my viewpoint comes from</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-825782340646600764 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=825782340646600764><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, March 28, 2021 7:24 PM">7:24 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I think the analogy is a bit off, prisons can&#39;t really be small scale and are tied to the jurisdiction&#39;s legal code. However there is a difference between some reform driven prison (sweeden i think, but i know USA tends to hold other countries like these as a utopian paradise when they are more complex than that, as are all things), and a USA for profit prison / 2000&#39;s (and maybe under trump) gitmo</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-825782341884313719 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=825782341884313719><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/def5e0a7ff07e73d477a87df10a3dc4f-BFBB1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(153,45,34) title=Arcane#7800 data-user-id=437808476106784770>Arcane</span> <span class=chatlog__author-tag>BOT</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, March 28, 2021 7:24 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-825782341884313719>3/28/2021 7:24 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="ericlotze">@Eric Lotze</span> has reached level <strong>29</strong>. GG!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-825783110586597387 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=825783110586597387><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, March 28, 2021 7:27 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-825783110586597387>3/28/2021 7:27 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>On more the animal note, i think there is a difference between the trope of the &quot;small family (red barn) farm with one pig&quot; vs this whole mess:
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intensive_pig_farming">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intensive_pig_farming</a></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-825783176205959209 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=825783176205959209><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, March 28, 2021 7:27 PM">7:27 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Or having 1-a few chickens vs a battery cage</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-825783298566520892 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=825783298566520892><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, March 28, 2021 7:28 PM">7:28 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>What i mean is yes both are bad from an objective standpoint, but from a harm reduction standpoint it may be better to have that as an intermediary step</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-825783381353955379 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=825783381353955379><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, March 28, 2021 7:28 PM">7:28 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I am not justifying it, i am just thinking from a &quot;reducing collective suffering&quot; standpoint</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Sunday, March 28, 2021 7:28 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-825783385166184468 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=825783385166184468><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/def5e0a7ff07e73d477a87df10a3dc4f-BFBB1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(153,45,34) title=Arcane#7800 data-user-id=437808476106784770>Arcane</span> <span class=chatlog__author-tag>BOT</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, March 28, 2021 7:28 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-825783385166184468>3/28/2021 7:28 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="Deleted User">@Deleted User</span> has reached level <strong>6</strong>. GG!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-825783488589332500 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=825783488589332500><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, March 28, 2021 7:28 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-825783488589332500>3/28/2021 7:28 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>a z o l l a p o n i c s h y p e</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-825783553701707799 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=825783553701707799><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, March 28, 2021 7:29 PM">7:29 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>i&#39;m def down (and fish just sound like trouble lol)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-825784382466949153 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=825784382466949153><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, March 28, 2021 7:32 PM">7:32 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>i need to do all that math/find papers today</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-825784433884790795 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=825784433884790795><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, March 28, 2021 7:32 PM">7:32 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Azolla_and_Duckweed_Calculations">https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Azolla_and_Duckweed_Calculations</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Azolla_and_Duckweed_Calculations><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Azolla and Duckweed Calculations</div></a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-825784519009370115 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=825784519009370115><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, March 28, 2021 7:32 PM">7:32 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>that page was moreso on growth rates, not nitrogen stuff produced/cm^2</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-827352991911903248 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=827352991911903248><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, April 2, 2021 3:25 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-827352991911903248>4/2/2021 3:25 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Just watched this movie: &quot;Sala samob&#243;jc&#243;w. Hejter&quot; on netflix
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<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hater">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hater</a></span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-830289086270799872 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=830289086270799872><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, April 10, 2021 5:52 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-830289086270799872>4/10/2021 5:52 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIxY_Y9TGWI">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIxY_Y9TGWI</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl_dlV_7ofr4qeP1drJQ-qg><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Tantacrul</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIxY_Y9TGWI"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Corporate Music - How to Compose with no Soul</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/AIxY_Y9TGWI width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=thumbsup><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=👍 src=media-ose/1f44d-27259.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div><div class=chatlog__reaction title=smiling_face_with_tear><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=🥲 src=media-ose/1f972-F415D.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>2</span></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-830289209889128478 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=830289209889128478><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, April 10, 2021 5:52 AM">5:52 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>granted with some of these things it gets a bit too &quot;meta&quot; but this one is pretty on point imo</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-832352911240593437 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=832352911240593437><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/086356a9411edc3f5b3a821d064c601f-94388.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=cyberpeasant44 data-user-id=316404978119868416>cyberpeasant44</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, April 15, 2021 10:33 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-832352911240593437>4/15/2021 10:33 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXAirenteRA">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXAirenteRA</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCz1oFxMrgrQ82-276UCOU9w><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Atlas Pro</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXAirenteRA"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">The Plan to Revive the Mammoth Steppe to Fight Climate Change</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/RXAirenteRA width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-843675734664151070 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=843675734664151070><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, May 17, 2021 4:26 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-843675734664151070>5/17/2021 4:26 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://youtu.be/yFZcfIfJUdg">https://youtu.be/yFZcfIfJUdg</a> This may seem very C++ specific, but it touches on something I keep looking around for - that whole modular, component-based line of thinking for long-term &quot;technical capital&quot; of sorts. The act of building lots of little lego-like, loosely coupled manifestations that can be pieced together for extreme re-usability. Something that, even though may be more effort to design, seems to make any past &quot;module&quot; created very worthwhile in the future, and makes future projects way less effort due to having so much of a selection.
I think the video itself is far more abstract, rather than code-related. I think this translates well to any system. I mean, I can already tell OSE is already on this path, but I love finding more media that talks about it - keeps my mind in the right place.</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJhay24LTpO1s4bIZxuIqKw><div class=chatlog__embed-author>ACCU Conference</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFZcfIfJUdg"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Lakos&#39;20: The &quot;Dam&quot; Book is Done! - John Lakos [ ACCU 2021 ]</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/yFZcfIfJUdg width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-843894424940445737 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=843894424940445737><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a67349d5204fa45d8d75ef87bae8aef7-C25C9.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=osrsupport6829 data-user-id=788915694997209123>-- osr-support --</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, May 17, 2021 6:55 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-843894424940445737>5/17/2021 6:55 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>As much I love C &amp; C++ (done it for 30 years, still doing it), those things seem done more clean with pure &#39;functional languages/programming&#39;. I did a little in Typescript and Ramda (and the like) - it&#39;s like heaven, composing new functions by just altering a little the arguments <img
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title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> However, I managed often to end up also with an unmaintainable mess <img
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OSE or the like wise, I am afraid you&#39;d need real seniors to compose a new platform from such &#39;building blocks&#39;, as tech is moving to fast, I&#39;d stick with basic and disposable code/blocks <img
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title="slight_smile"
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-850481882978320484 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=850481882978320484><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, June 4, 2021 11:11 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-850481882978320484>6/4/2021 11:11 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://youtu.be/tyixMpuGEL8">https://youtu.be/tyixMpuGEL8</a>
An amazing video on old school vfx and the prop workholding
(they actually used something similar to scanning spray to get a &quot;matte&quot; layer of a prop)</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEOXxzW2vU0P-0THehuIIeg><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Captain Disillusion</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyixMpuGEL8"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">VFXcool: Flight of the Navigator</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/tyixMpuGEL8 width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-850482012036005919 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=850482012036005919><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, June 4, 2021 11:11 PM">11:11 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>(Also they use blender for all their stuff and had a great talk on it, i&#39;ll grab that too)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-850482156845400095 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=850482156845400095><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, June 4, 2021 11:12 PM">11:12 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://youtu.be/1qSTcxt2t74">https://youtu.be/1qSTcxt2t74</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEOXxzW2vU0P-0THehuIIeg><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Captain Disillusion</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qSTcxt2t74"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Captain Disillusion: World&#39;s Greatest Blenderer - Live at the Blend...</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/1qSTcxt2t74 width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-852253533855940678 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=852253533855940678><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, June 9, 2021 8:31 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-852253533855940678>6/9/2021 8:31 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Playing Kerbal Space Program and Oxygen Not Included at the same time. XP</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-852256859506343987 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=852256859506343987><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, June 9, 2021 8:44 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-852256859506343987>6/9/2021 8:44 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://www.twitch.tv/gpdmcc">https://www.twitch.tv/gpdmcc</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/unknown-92272.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/unknown-92272.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: unknown.png (505.58 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-852264366154055771 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=852264366154055771><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, June 9, 2021 9:14 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-852264366154055771>6/9/2021 9:14 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Oxygen not included was <em>so</em> stressful for me lol</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-852264413436051486 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=852264413436051486><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, June 9, 2021 9:14 PM">9:14 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>One thing goes wrong and the system falls apart</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-852264541613326436 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=852264541613326436><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, June 9, 2021 9:15 PM">9:15 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Also, at least when i plaid, the water filters were non-renewable</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-852264652002951228 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=852264652002951228><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, June 9, 2021 9:15 PM">9:15 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>forget the exact steps but i had to keep on mining something for the filters</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-852265235355926580 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=852265235355926580><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, June 9, 2021 9:17 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-852265235355926580>6/9/2021 9:17 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I have definitely always given up around midway or something decent. Uuusually due to algae loss,so way early on honestly.
I always want to try something new like... separate colonies where groups don&#39;t head back. I tend to choose the ice planet a lot too because... uhh the heat problem freaks me out (in reality too)... but being cold I feel like I can just &quot;over-industrialize&quot; to generate heat.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-852266496125042699 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=852266496125042699><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, June 9, 2021 9:22 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-852266496125042699>6/9/2021 9:22 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>i never got to the space aspect so good on you lol</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-852266567747633192 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=852266567747633192><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, June 9, 2021 9:23 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-852266567747633192>6/9/2021 9:23 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Oop no I never got to space either ahah I just ment separate areas haha</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-852266578326454322 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=852266578326454322><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, June 9, 2021 9:23 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-852266578326454322>6/9/2021 9:23 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>or how i most often have to make a catacomb/mass grave</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-852266615273160745 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=852266615273160745><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, June 9, 2021 9:23 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-852266615273160745>6/9/2021 9:23 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I don&#39;t think I&#39;ve ever each reached the bottom nor the top of the map...</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-852266765555990549 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=852266765555990549><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, June 9, 2021 9:23 PM">9:23 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Which honestly, if I can play a game so many times and still not reach mid-game let alone end-game stuff.... ohh I love that..</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-852322279274184714 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=852322279274184714><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, June 10, 2021 1:04 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-852322279274184714>6/10/2021 1:04 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCK89V4NpJY">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCK89V4NpJY</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEp20NgOZHmgWdbQdHSxgjw><div class=chatlog__embed-author>This Does Not Compute</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCK89V4NpJY"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Sony MiniDisc: The (Not) Forgotten Audio Format That (Never) Failed</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/CCK89V4NpJY width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-852322340138516500 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=852322340138516500><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, June 10, 2021 1:04 AM">1:04 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>the death/gap in optical data storage makes me sad</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-852322387659325460 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=852322387659325460><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, June 10, 2021 1:04 AM">1:04 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>ALSO how CD&#39;s / DVDs weren&#39;t in a casette</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-852322469087019028 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=852322469087019028><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, June 10, 2021 1:05 AM">1:05 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Like &quot;golly gee thin disk that doesn&#39;t like dust/fingerprints, what could go wrong&quot;</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-853351841227997194 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=853351841227997194><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a67349d5204fa45d8d75ef87bae8aef7-C25C9.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=osrsupport6829 data-user-id=788915694997209123>-- osr-support --</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, June 12, 2021 9:15 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-853351841227997194>6/12/2021 9:15 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>ye - have tons of these still around - some failed (20ys) - possibly I need just a new old player - the sound dynamics is stunning, near vinyl <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-853354968165777408 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=853354968165777408><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a67349d5204fa45d8d75ef87bae8aef7-C25C9.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=osrsupport6829 data-user-id=788915694997209123>-- osr-support --</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, June 12, 2021 9:27 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-853354968165777408>6/12/2021 9:27 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>damn, can&#39;t find it back - there was an interview with one of the top club&#39;s speaker makers (trompete - wood style) ; he said that music industry is on purpose trying to reduce sound dynamic range - listening to mainstream radio in the car, I can confirm - I just wanna throw up listening to this dumb garbage - apparently they&#39;re out of new melodies, etc.. so now it&#39;s all about selling garbage to you <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-853522417469227039 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=853522417469227039><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, June 13, 2021 8:33 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-853522417469227039>6/13/2021 8:33 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://youtu.be/9BhkjEc6Q64">https://youtu.be/9BhkjEc6Q64</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq7hwLOc6lhNoyXkGkXKSNQ><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Relativity Space</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BhkjEc6Q64"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">This Is Terran R</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/9BhkjEc6Q64 width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-853522478114930699 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=853522478114930699><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, June 13, 2021 8:33 AM">8:33 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>3d printed
wire-feed arc welding 3d printed, tons of shielding gas, but man the possibilities it opens up. This is the first spaceship with true topology optimization, launching in hopefully 4 years. Should be among the highest performance heavy lift vehicles if not the highest pound for pound. Definitely giving elon a run for his money if they can pull it off</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-853522558895783946 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=853522558895783946><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, June 13, 2021 8:33 AM">8:33 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/29-762E5.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/29-762E5.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: 29.png (967.73 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-853881351840989184 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=853881351840989184><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, June 14, 2021 8:19 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-853881351840989184>6/14/2021 8:19 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://youtu.be/_38DHOde5T8">https://youtu.be/_38DHOde5T8</a> Hard for me to overstate the importance of this realm. This realm of &quot;an entire company of Virtual Machines&quot; spawned from a YAML text file.
The power to play a modern game while 12 people use 12 Windows operating systems to do their work. The &quot;homelab&quot; hobbyists even with normal or subpar hardware, using Proxmox as a starting point, running numerous linux/bsd servers to &quot;mess with/learn&quot; server stuff, GPU passthrough for a near native experience.
Personally this isn&#39;t off-topic, this is the edge of a strangely underutilized(i.e. mainstream/business world still doing the old ways, or just paying for cloud) IT realm. I think OSE could do great things with it on the backend, but also of course dipping into it as well to jump a tech gap - mini VM servers or containers handling tractors, automated farms, and... my goodness all else that could be connected.. but not by a &quot;bunch of server machines&quot;, but possibly just one. Templatized, and sharable. Spinning up workspaces snapshotted to an OpenCAD or something, loaded onto many member&#39;s remote access, all setup skipped(and yet so well documented, due to how automating that works), everyone able to start at the exact same OS, exact same software, same state, etc.
Anyway yeah, a weird &quot;IT-ish&quot; sounding realm - which I admit I once thought boring - but man... so much potential.</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4w1YQAJMWOz4qtxinq55LQ><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Level1Techs</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_38DHOde5T8"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">What Can You Do With 64 Core Threadripper Pro? We&#39;ll Show You!</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/_38DHOde5T8 width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-853883544480382976 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=853883544480382976><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, June 14, 2021 8:28 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-853883544480382976>6/14/2021 8:28 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>At a minimum, if IT-related aspects are embraced more focused in the future, I say skip the old ways. No &quot;machine-per-server&quot; mentality, don&#39;t waste the time learning that and wasting those resources. Jump into the deep end of this seemingly complex private cloud-like thing (search &quot;homelab&quot;, learn Ansible or similar, try Proxmox, compare VMs vs Containers).
It&#39;s just too worth it, no matter how complex it seems... it seems way more simple after even minor mastery. That video is just an extreme example, but a $100 thinkpad can show a lot, and a multicore desktop even far more.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-855212641840660480 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=855212641840660480><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, June 18, 2021 12:29 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-855212641840660480>6/18/2021 12:29 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I found a real life version of my invasive species killing ROV thing lol:
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COTSBot">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COTSBot</a>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gij5i66UujU">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gij5i66UujU</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COTSBot><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">COTSBot</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">COTSBot is a small intelligent underwater craft 4.5 feet long, which is being designed by Queensland University of Technology (QUT) to kill the very destructive crown of thorns starfish in the Great Barrier Reef off the north-east coast of Australia. It identifies its target using an image-analyzing neural net to analyze what an onboard camera s...</div></div></div></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCA8MBOs4SpWJm4OVvQUDEag><div class=chatlog__embed-author>TheQUTube</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gij5i66UujU"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">COTSbot injects a COTS</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/Gij5i66UujU width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-857090436496359444 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=857090436496359444><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, June 23, 2021 4:51 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-857090436496359444>6/23/2021 4:51 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Shitpost from another wiki:</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-857090603036049428 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=857090603036049428><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, June 23, 2021 4:52 AM">4:52 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://screenshot-media.com/the-future/trends/jeff-bezos-space-petition/">https://screenshot-media.com/the-future/trends/jeff-bezos-space-petition/</a>
(Someone posted that)</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Wednesday, June 23, 2021 4:52 AM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,255,255,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href="https://screenshot-media.com/author/malavika-pradeep/"><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Malavika Pradeep</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://screenshot-media.com/the-future/trends/jeff-bezos-space-petition/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">More than 57,000 people have signed petitions to stop Jeff Bezos fr...</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Last week the internet wanted Jeff Bezos, multibillionaire and founder of Amazon, to buy and gobble up the Mona Lisa. In the latest twist of events, however, the internet is now on a quest to banish billionaires from the planet altogether.</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/Screen-Shot-Media-More-than-57000-people-h-BDC93.jpg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/Screen-Shot-Media-More-than-57000-people-h-BDC93.jpg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-857090636129632256 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=857090636129632256><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, June 23, 2021 4:52 AM">4:52 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>nah we need something higher capacity than that tin can
I am team this, and just breathe on a heat tile:</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Wednesday, June 23, 2021 4:52 AM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/7995a3a085934375fac1a3e2f8c88c2a-9F8A9.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/7995a3a085934375fac1a3e2f8c88c2a-9F8A9.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: 7995a3a085934375fac1a3e2f8c88c2a.png (113.89 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-857119955233406976 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=857119955233406976><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, June 23, 2021 6:48 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-857119955233406976>6/23/2021 6:48 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="mossdew5210">@Mossdew</span> I guess since lots of my stuff has been off-topic, moving convo to here.
Alas, I&#39;ve got no multiplayer game - as much as I&#39;d love to(even a basic chat room with movement, gahhh) - but I&#39;ll try to let you know if I do! How big is your club so far? Mine is like... 1 person, me alone xP. Also just FYI I&#39;m not too successful in the &quot;making a game&quot; situation, rather its the process of doing it that I like the most, from the knowledge management to the act of coding itself. A game just feels like the coolest end-goal, but I&#39;m not really too end-goal oriented.
Anyway, totally let me know more about this club - I reallly don&#39;t think I could join anything, heck I arrived at OSE and have barely done anything even though I love it so much. So... lazy.... guh.</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-857120628137656350 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=857120628137656350><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, June 23, 2021 6:51 AM">6:51 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I&#39;m really liking this MD0 license though, so yes, I think I&#39;mma steal. Thank ye. I&#39;ll ask some peeps if it seems like it can be legit.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-857159741170909194 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=857159741170909194><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, June 23, 2021 9:26 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-857159741170909194>6/23/2021 9:26 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://youtu.be/b30kzJmKZNs">https://youtu.be/b30kzJmKZNs</a>
Glad to see even recently some videos come out about it - it totally doesn&#39;t make sense that it shoulda been allowed to fade away so easily yarrg!</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzfx1QvKjn-BxLMLBdBGgMw><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Aci</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b30kzJmKZNs"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">What happened to Worlds Adrift?</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/b30kzJmKZNs width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-857453509556830208 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=857453509556830208><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, June 24, 2021 4:54 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-857453509556830208>6/24/2021 4:54 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5v8D-alAKE">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5v8D-alAKE</a>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Addai3fFC3Y">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Addai3fFC3Y</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHnyfMqiRRG1u-2MsSQLbXA><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Veritasium</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5v8D-alAKE"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">This is why we can&#39;t have nice things</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/j5v8D-alAKE width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5ojdZG905jCpbdz12tl-jw><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Our Own Devices</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Addai3fFC3Y"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">The Phoebus Cartel: Making a Worse Mousetrap</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/Addai3fFC3Y width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-857453598987518004 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=857453598987518004><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, June 24, 2021 4:54 AM">4:54 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoebus_cartel">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoebus_cartel</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoebus_cartel><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Phoebus cartel</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">The Phoebus cartel existed to control the manufacture and sale of incandescent light bulbs. They appropriated market territories and fixed the useful life of such bulbs. Corporations based in Europe and America founded the cartel on January 15, 1925 in Geneva. Phoebus based itself in Switzerland. The corporation named itself Phœbus S.A. Compagni...</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-857686096480960542 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=857686096480960542><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, June 24, 2021 8:18 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-857686096480960542>6/24/2021 8:18 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Just got off of a 1 hour call/holding music bit to change <em>1 SIM Card</em></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-857686317823819777 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=857686317823819777><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, June 24, 2021 8:19 PM">8:19 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Good thing the (non-monopolized) free market of communications infrastructure makes customer experience optimized (for maximum profit)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-857686525705846825 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=857686525705846825><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, June 24, 2021 8:20 PM">8:20 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>It was in french or some other european language but there was this bit where some comedy show over there blocked &quot;Mobistar&quot; &#39;s headquarters with a 40 foot container</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-857686697276866570 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=857686697276866570><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, June 24, 2021 8:20 PM">8:20 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Then they had them call &quot;beuro-containers&quot; who&#39;s number just went to the show&#39;s hosts it was an amazing bit</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-857686895160197150 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=857686895160197150><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, June 24, 2021 8:21 PM">8:21 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://vimeo.com/113504317">https://vimeo.com/113504317</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><video class=chatlog__embed-generic-video width=1280 height=960 controls><source src=media-ose/113504317-421E9 alt="Embedded video"></video></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-857704375035363329 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=857704375035363329><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a67349d5204fa45d8d75ef87bae8aef7-C25C9.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=osrsupport6829 data-user-id=788915694997209123>-- osr-support --</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, June 24, 2021 9:30 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-857704375035363329>6/24/2021 9:30 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>haha, nice one feels like talking to PP Central / Gang, as user, as contributor or investor, lol</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Thursday, June 24, 2021 9:31 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-858116742571229196 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=858116742571229196><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, June 26, 2021 12:49 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-858116742571229196>6/26/2021 12:49 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Regarding Obsidian <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="osrsupport6829">@-- osr-support --</span>, This guy&#39;s theme is a tad &#39;whoah&#39;, but so far has a good overview on the features:
<a href="https://youtu.be/TDhTpPIjsDg">https://youtu.be/TDhTpPIjsDg</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_nJ4PiyzE26LX-FmrnvCfQ><div class=chatlog__embed-author>John Mavrick</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDhTpPIjsDg"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">I Tried Obsidian Note Taking for a Week... (MD App Review, Tips, Fe...</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/TDhTpPIjsDg width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=eyes><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=👀 src=media-ose/1f440-6C64D.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>2</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-858121183051513906 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=858121183051513906><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a67349d5204fa45d8d75ef87bae8aef7-C25C9.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=osrsupport6829 data-user-id=788915694997209123>-- osr-support --</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, June 26, 2021 1:07 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-858121183051513906>6/26/2021 1:07 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>really really nice - just a shame they charge for a note taking app; haven&#39;t seen much about sync to whatever features or multi-media caps or browser integrations.
nice theme; I remember having it used somewhere too 10 years back <img
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src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Saturday, June 26, 2021 1:07 AM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/unknown-96DA8.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/unknown-96DA8.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: unknown.png (804.68 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-858123338337615883 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=858123338337615883><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, June 26, 2021 1:15 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-858123338337615883>6/26/2021 1:15 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I do hope to just someday learn Org Mode in Emacs... after learning Emacs.
OooooOOh I like that theme there</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-858123967402606612 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=858123967402606612><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, June 26, 2021 1:18 AM">1:18 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I kinda.. don&#39;t trust &quot;Sync&quot; on anything, I feel like everything has this flawed, unless they explicitly have an explained system or a &quot;merge conflict&quot; thing for you to handle manually. If I&#39;m offline on one device, editing the same area... and then I edit that area on my online one... and then... I mean, I&#39;ve lost lots of content.
They only charge for Publish, which can be self-hosted somehow I believe. Sync, again, I don&#39;t trust Syncs ahah. It is free though otherwise, unless you&#39;re a business.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-858409375320375316 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=858409375320375316><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, June 26, 2021 8:12 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-858409375320375316>6/26/2021 8:12 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Random thing... I think I wanted something like this before for something: <a href="https://vac.muzychenko.net/en/index.htm">https://vac.muzychenko.net/en/index.htm</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://vac.muzychenko.net/en/index.htm><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Virtual Audio Cable (VAC) - connect audio applications, route and m...</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Virtual Audio Cable (VAC) - sound routing/transfer, integrating with DAW, SDR, VoIP, SIP. Simulates a multi-line audio adapter/card with loopback</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-858464178465800192 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=858464178465800192><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, June 26, 2021 11:50 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-858464178465800192>6/26/2021 11:50 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://www.livescience.com/bee-creates-perfect-clone-army.html">https://www.livescience.com/bee-creates-perfect-clone-army.html</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.livescience.com/bee-creates-perfect-clone-army.html><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Single bee is making an immortal clone army thanks to a genetic fluke</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">The worker bees&#39; ability to clone themselves can be as destabilizing to the hives of other species as it is to their own.</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/bBqNXsxN2e86iMnq7ERYyD-1200-80-9491D.jpg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/bBqNXsxN2e86iMnq7ERYyD-1200-80-9491D.jpg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-858464221695705118 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=858464221695705118><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, June 26, 2021 11:50 PM">11:50 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>One hell of a genetic anomoly, a man being interviewed for the article said he&#39;s never seen this, but it the same bee genome has been around since the 90&#39;s. A female bee producing DNA clones in eggs, exact copies.
It&#39;s quite parasitic to normal hives because these bees tell the hive to feed it as much as possible so they get as big as a queen almost.
Does anyone else agree that this is rare to see, or are there other examples of perfect clones like this?</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Sunday, June 27, 2021 12:08 AM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-858546252248514571 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=858546252248514571><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d088e6b1b7aa86368d1e66eee8e8afea-CBA01.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=.opabinia data-user-id=429253903901786140>opabinia</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, June 27, 2021 5:16 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-858546252248514571>6/27/2021 5:16 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Uh i mean</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-858546498148892692 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=858546498148892692><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, June 27, 2021 5:17 AM">5:17 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>the only thing that comes to mind is lack of genetic changes in things that reproduce asexually or like siphonophores producing a bunch of colonial organisms from one embryo</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-858546558168858655 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=858546558168858655><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, June 27, 2021 5:17 AM">5:17 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>otherwise like</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-858546686217158666 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=858546686217158666><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, June 27, 2021 5:18 AM">5:18 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>cant think of any other big examples</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-858671864787238963 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=858671864787238963><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/acc2bbf51dfae65b3c25844f21cb6f1b-5AA32.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=kelosi data-user-id=280831392240238593>Kelosi</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, June 27, 2021 1:35 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-858671864787238963>6/27/2021 1:35 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>there&#39;s a genus of lizard that can reproduce via cloning. Multiple species in that genus have evolved the ability to reproduce asexually. The resulting daughter lineages are clones of their mother. Although its suspected that this method of reproduction isn&#39;t viable, especially for large multicellular organisms. So even though its occurred multiple times in this genus, those species have essentially lost all their males and are dying out.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-858714555463106620 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=858714555463106620><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d088e6b1b7aa86368d1e66eee8e8afea-CBA01.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=.opabinia data-user-id=429253903901786140>opabinia</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, June 27, 2021 4:25 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-858714555463106620>6/27/2021 4:25 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>right Ive heard of those</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-859293543143309332 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=859293543143309332><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, June 29, 2021 6:45 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-859293543143309332>6/29/2021 6:45 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I&#39;ve talked myself into Guilded btw, I think I&#39;m finally gonna go heavy into kinda sorta building my community, and using Guilded + Obsidian.
Btw I found a great tour of those features finally I think: <a href="https://youtu.be/hZD4zZalzDw?t=74">https://youtu.be/hZD4zZalzDw?t=74</a>
(However, it&#39;s glancing over or missing big one: Threaded discussions - and even deeper, threads within threads. That means conversations can happen quite neatly in paralell in, say, one general channel, but not &quot;build the wall of text&quot; that can flood things upwards so dayumn fast.)</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGh_QkZChG5IUpH4TE_Ff2A><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Shae Stream Archive</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZD4zZalzDw&amp;start=74"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Guilded Overview: Should you switch from Discord?</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/hZD4zZalzDw width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=thumbsup><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=👍 src=media-ose/1f44d-27259.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-859772907792891954 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=859772907792891954><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, June 30, 2021 2:30 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-859772907792891954>6/30/2021 2:30 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>this a bible for the budding engineer/fabricator/prototyper
<a href="https://youtu.be/SjJulcvTA7Y">https://youtu.be/SjJulcvTA7Y</a></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Wednesday, June 30, 2021 2:34 PM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCj1VqrHhDte54oLgPG4xpuQ><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Stuff Made Here</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjJulcvTA7Y"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Why did I make NINE different catapults?</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/SjJulcvTA7Y width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-861289539523969045 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=861289539523969045><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, July 4, 2021 6:57 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-861289539523969045>7/4/2021 6:57 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Has a PILE of CNC machines etc</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-861330916554702850 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=861330916554702850><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a67349d5204fa45d8d75ef87bae8aef7-C25C9.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=ownerofown>OwnerOfOwn</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'859772907792891954')"> this a bible for the budding engineer/fabricator/prototyper
<a href="https://youtu.be/SjJulcvTA7Y">https://youtu.be/SjJulcvTA7Y</a> </span> <span class=chatlog__reply-edited-timestamp title="Wednesday, June 30, 2021 2:34 PM">(edited)</span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=osrsupport6829 data-user-id=788915694997209123>-- osr-support --</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, July 4, 2021 9:41 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-861330916554702850>7/4/2021 9:41 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>nice channel - but no; this is your bible : <a href="https://git.osr-plastic.org/osr-plastic/pp-next/src/branch/master/resources/books/Machinerys_Handbook_Large_Print.pdf">https://git.osr-plastic.org/osr-plastic/pp-next/src/branch/master/resources/books/Machinerys_Handbook_Large_Print.pdf</a>
(literally sleeping on it:-)</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=heart><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=❤️ src=media-ose/2764-A3D25.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div><div class=chatlog__reaction title=eyes><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=👀 src=media-ose/1f440-6C64D.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>2</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-861358252330319902 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=861358252330319902><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, July 4, 2021 11:30 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-861358252330319902>7/4/2021 11:30 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>&quot;Fine Art&quot; and copyright all in one for me to easily have a thing to hate lol
<a href="https://news.in-24.com/news/94259.html">https://news.in-24.com/news/94259.html</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://news.in-24.com/news/94259.html><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Plagiarism charge against the non-existent work of art sold for 15,...</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">An American artist accuses Italian plastic artist Salvatore Garau of having stolen the concept of invisible sculpture from him, and threatens to sue if he is not credited. The work is neither visible nor palpable and yet it is the subject of an accusation of plagiarism. Created by the Italian painter Salvatore Garau, the invisible… Continue read...</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/medium_2021-07-04-22607cc308-3EA09.jpg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/medium_2021-07-04-22607cc308-3EA09.jpg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-861376547667705866 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=861376547667705866><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/a67349d5204fa45d8d75ef87bae8aef7-C25C9.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=osrsupport6829>-- osr-support --</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'861330916554702850')"> nice channel - but no; this is your bible : <a href="https://git.osr-plastic.org/osr-plastic/pp-next/src/branch/master/resources/books/Machinerys_Handbook_Large_Print.pdf">https://git.osr-plastic.org/osr-plastic/pp-next/src/branch/master/resources/books/Machinerys_Handbook_Large_Print.pdf</a>
(literally sleeping on it:-) </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, July 5, 2021 12:42 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-861376547667705866>7/5/2021 12:42 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>okay maybe a great introduction to some complex concepts for teens and pre-teens who can&#39;t read</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-861378739874824202 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=861378739874824202><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, July 5, 2021 12:51 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-861378739874824202>7/5/2021 12:51 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>2896 pages of excellence</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-861990404457889852 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=861990404457889852><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/7ae59e77433a1eb8baae44b1e29c212a-6602D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=wesxdz data-user-id=230472437265989635>Wesxdz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, July 6, 2021 5:22 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-861990404457889852>7/6/2021 5:22 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://endofyou.io/">https://endofyou.io/</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href="https://endofyou.io/author/admin/"><div class=chatlog__embed-author>admin</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://endofyou.io/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Exhibition</div></a></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/010_GrayArea_EndofYou_Naveed_Ahmad-1024x68-08D29.jpg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/010_GrayArea_EndofYou_Naveed_Ahmad-1024x68-08D29.jpg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-862018485885730846 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=862018485885730846><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/2c298b90ec031a6c231d3fe0841eff38-C0EC3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=cryptogothslowdao8302 data-user-id=756755259355037766>Paul Pham</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, July 6, 2021 7:13 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-862018485885730846>7/6/2021 7:13 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>where do you all live, other than being disembodied words on a screen?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-862018605281312800 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=862018605281312800><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d088e6b1b7aa86368d1e66eee8e8afea-CBA01.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=.opabinia data-user-id=429253903901786140>opabinia</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, July 6, 2021 7:14 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-862018605281312800>7/6/2021 7:14 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>im from Massachusetts</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=lobster><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=🦞 src=media-ose/1f99e-7A070.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-862018659358081046 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=862018659358081046><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, July 6, 2021 7:14 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-862018659358081046>7/6/2021 7:14 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>behind the screen, surely</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-862026510739046411 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=862026510739046411><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/2c298b90ec031a6c231d3fe0841eff38-C0EC3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=cryptogothslowdao8302 data-user-id=756755259355037766>Paul Pham</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, July 6, 2021 7:45 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-862026510739046411>7/6/2021 7:45 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>spoken like a true cypherpunk</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-862026705375461407 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=862026705375461407><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, July 6, 2021 7:46 PM">7:46 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I split time between Detroit and Snowflake, AZ, and currently at Factor e Farm <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-862041773484146728 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=862041773484146728><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, July 6, 2021 8:46 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-862041773484146728>7/6/2021 8:46 PM</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/osr_plastic_org_anti-vax_screenshot-609CE.PNG> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/osr_plastic_org_anti-vax_screenshot-609CE.PNG alt="Image attachment" title="Image: osr_plastic_org_anti-vax_screenshot.PNG (165 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-862041927977009193 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=862041927977009193><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, July 6, 2021 8:46 PM">8:46 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>ANYWHO</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-862042280378105866 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=862042280378105866><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, July 6, 2021 8:48 PM">8:48 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I&#39;m in Florida, but am also currently visiting family in Ashtabula Ohio (USA for both for clarification i guess)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-862042316683608064 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=862042316683608064><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, July 6, 2021 8:48 PM">8:48 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Was there a map of any sorts yet?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-863097789315022848 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=863097789315022848><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/2c298b90ec031a6c231d3fe0841eff38-C0EC3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze>Eric Lotze</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'862042316683608064')"> Was there a map of any sorts yet? </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=cryptogothslowdao8302 data-user-id=756755259355037766>Paul Pham</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, July 9, 2021 6:42 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-863097789315022848>7/9/2021 6:42 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>a map of where different members? Not that I know of. That would be a great contribution.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-863099627723948032 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=863099627723948032><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/2c298b90ec031a6c231d3fe0841eff38-C0EC3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=cryptogothslowdao8302 data-user-id=756755259355037766>Paul Pham</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, July 9, 2021 6:49 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-863099627723948032>7/9/2021 6:49 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>In case anyone is interested in acquiring Detroit properties to rehab, or empty land for OSE builds / campuses, here is the land bank auction site:
<a href="https://buildingdetroit.org/properties/auction/">https://buildingdetroit.org/properties/auction/</a>
They usually start at $1k, and a house that currently has 4 hours left in the auction is up to $7.3k.
The terms are you need to bring it up to code within 6 months, which is doable if it&#39;s your full-time job to be the general contractor. Which for a full livable house that you own forever free-and-clear, might be worth it.
I&#39;m happy to answer any questions about Detroit, and you&#39;re also welcome to come visit our current houses and soak up the do-it-together urban farming vibe in the D <img
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7376 Hanover St
3731 Northwestern St
We are tracking our contractors, quotes, and all other work in an open source way on our Trello board. You&#39;re welcome to use this information for your own homes.
<a href="https://trello.com/b/b7zAOUHk/arcology">https://trello.com/b/b7zAOUHk/arcology</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Description</div></div></div></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://trello.com/b/b7zAOUHk/arcology><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Trello</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Organize anything, together. Trello is a collaboration tool that organizes your projects into boards. In one glance, know what&#39;s being worked on, who&#39;s working on what, and where something is in a process.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-863099977021259777 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=863099977021259777><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/2c298b90ec031a6c231d3fe0841eff38-C0EC3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=cryptogothslowdao8302>Paul Pham</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'863097789315022848')"> a map of where different members? Not that I know of. That would be a great contribution. </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, July 9, 2021 6:51 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-863099977021259777>7/9/2021 6:51 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I had a wiki page on this concept, i&#39;ll grab it. Precious Plastic has this to a certain degree and is a good &quot;industry standard&quot;</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-863100061113122817 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=863100061113122817><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, July 9, 2021 6:51 PM">6:51 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Also just mapping non-ose, but relevant organizations/facilities/infastruture</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-863100091882930229 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=863100091882930229><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, July 9, 2021 6:51 PM">6:51 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>and feed it asll into an OS g i s</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-863100487880278037 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=863100487880278037><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/2c298b90ec031a6c231d3fe0841eff38-C0EC3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=cryptogothslowdao8302>Paul Pham</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'863099627723948032')"> In case anyone is interested in acquiring Detroit properties to rehab, or empty land for OSE builds / campuses, here is the land bank auction site:
<a href="https://buildingdetroit.org/properties/auction/">https://buildingdetroit.org/properties/auction/</a>
They usually start at $1k, and a house that currently has 4 hours left in the auction is up to $7.3k.
The terms are you need to bring it up to code within 6 months, which is doable if it&#39;s your full-time job to be the general contractor. Which for a full livable house that you own forever free-and-clear, might be worth it.
I&#39;m happy to answer any questions about Detroit, and you&#39;re also welcome to come visit our current houses and soak up the do-it-together urban farming vibe in the D <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="💚"
title="green_heart"
src="media-ose/1f49a-E8B01.svg">
7376 Hanover St
3731 Northwestern St
We are tracking our contractors, quotes, and all other work in an open source way on our Trello board. You&#39;re welcome to use this information for your own homes.
<a href="https://trello.com/b/b7zAOUHk/arcology">https://trello.com/b/b7zAOUHk/arcology</a> </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, July 9, 2021 6:53 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-863100487880278037>7/9/2021 6:53 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>On this note, i&#39;m currently up in Ashtabula Ohio visiting family, so similar thoughts have been going through my head !</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Friday, July 9, 2021 6:53 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-863468590933999656 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=863468590933999656><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/2c298b90ec031a6c231d3fe0841eff38-C0EC3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=cryptogothslowdao8302 data-user-id=756755259355037766>Paul Pham</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, July 10, 2021 7:15 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-863468590933999656>7/10/2021 7:15 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Where do people get mix tapes, or discover new music?
I rely too much on Spotify, and don&#39;t go to shows anymore :/
<a href="https://www.datpiff.com/">https://www.datpiff.com/</a></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Saturday, July 10, 2021 7:16 PM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.datpiff.com/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">DatPiff :: The Authority in Free Mixtapes</div></a></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/logo-EFA22.png> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/logo-EFA22.png alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-863471812507074601 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=863471812507074601><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/f85473df24e82818bc889e8806cd53fc-DF3BC.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=paleoracle data-user-id=573921462143025162>PaleOracle</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, July 10, 2021 7:28 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-863471812507074601>7/10/2021 7:28 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://boxden.com">https://boxden.com</a></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Saturday, July 10, 2021 7:28 PM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(12,12,12,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://boxden.com/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Boxden.Com - The urban web&#39;s front page</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">What&#39;s hot in real time based on the amount of people viewing.</div></div></div></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=metal><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=🤘 src=media-ose/1f918-D4EDF.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-864307975640711240 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=864307975640711240><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/531c844f58ab9da9231c7196ef23af07-0AA58.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=braden.eliason data-user-id=738044532750286870>braden</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, July 13, 2021 2:51 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-864307975640711240>7/13/2021 2:51 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="pcuci">@pcuci</span>: I had a thought on Quadratic payments after reading that article you linked (ref for all: <a href="https://vitalik.ca/general/2019/12/07/quadratic.html)">https://vitalik.ca/general/2019/12/07/quadratic.html)</a>
Use quadratic voting to implement an idea and the <em>credit</em> of all peoples votes goes to the person that proposed the idea. If someone proposes a really good idea and delivers on the idea, then they have more influence to spend on other people&#39;s ideas. People wouldn&#39;t be able to vote for their own ideas. Possibly add negative votes so people can voice that an idea would be harmful.
Possibly give everyone a guaranteed income of votes. To prevent the supply of influence expanding over time, you could make the credit for an implemented idea the amount of votes, <em>not</em> the cost of the votes to those that voted. (Someone&#39;s 4th vote cost 4x their first vote as normal with quadratic voting, but is only credited to the creator as 1 vote). Then balance the rate of the people&#39;s guarenteed income with the aggregated amount of projects being proposed.</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Tuesday, July 13, 2021 2:52 AM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-864309573895979038 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=864309573895979038><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, July 13, 2021 2:57 AM">2:57 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>This way people that contribute the most are rewarded with more influence. The intuition is that people that have better ideas as judged by everyone are better at deciding what good ideas look like. This assumption might not be completely accurate, but I still think it might be a good way to assign influence. I don&#39;t know if this solves the &quot;rational ignorance&quot; and &quot;rational irrationality&quot; problems mentioned in the article, but it&#39;s a start.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-864311838388781116 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=864311838388781116><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/531c844f58ab9da9231c7196ef23af07-0AA58.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=braden.eliason data-user-id=738044532750286870>braden</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, July 13, 2021 3:06 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-864311838388781116>7/13/2021 3:06 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>If the person that proposes the idea and the person that implements and idea are not the same, perhaps there&#39;s a sane way to split the influence credited by the ideator and the implementor. (Perhaps only give influence credit people that do the implementing to bias a community towards action).</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Tuesday, July 13, 2021 3:36 AM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-864652732929540118 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=864652732929540118><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, July 14, 2021 1:41 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-864652732929540118>7/14/2021 1:41 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://essenmitsosse.de/pixel/">https://essenmitsosse.de/pixel/</a> (Responsive Pixel Art)</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=scream><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=😱 src=media-ose/1f631-75E8D.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-864867819106861096 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=864867819106861096><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, July 14, 2021 3:55 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-864867819106861096>7/14/2021 3:55 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://permies.com/t/15431/Gravel-Pit-Reclamation">https://permies.com/t/15431/Gravel-Pit-Reclamation</a> 12 years later OSE CEB is still the most relevant. weird</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://permies.com/t/15431/Gravel-Pit-Reclamation><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Gravel Pit Reclamation (natural building forum at permies)</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">We are about to be moving to a property that was an old gravel pit. Trying to &#39;mine&#39; into the bank, putting up supports as I go was another thought, but seems like it would be more work making the space for the building then the actual building, and then how would I collapse it back so it was covering the buildings without causing the whole thin...</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-865004738671280138 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=865004738671280138><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/7ae59e77433a1eb8baae44b1e29c212a-6602D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=wesxdz data-user-id=230472437265989635>Wesxdz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, July 15, 2021 1:00 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-865004738671280138>7/15/2021 1:00 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCefMV4uVMfUKpFEg4fY8PKQ">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCefMV4uVMfUKpFEg4fY8PKQ</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCefMV4uVMfUKpFEg4fY8PKQ><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Charles Eisenstein</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Charles Eisenstein is the author of several books: The Ascent of Humanity, Sacred Economics, The More Beautiful World our Hearts Know is Possible, and Climate - A New Story.
Eisenstein graduated from Yale University in 1989 with a degree in Mathematics and Philosophy, and spent the next ten years as a Chinese-English translator. He is the fat...</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/AKedOLTmmyUwB8rhOSBJMh3xEo9F3fiTXqE9VuidTq-71779> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/AKedOLTmmyUwB8rhOSBJMh3xEo9F3fiTXqE9VuidTq-71779 alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-865110601448554518 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=865110601448554518><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, July 15, 2021 8:00 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-865110601448554518>7/15/2021 8:00 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Just incinerated some time in &quot;The Rossman Group&quot; over someone over various political things, i really need to get better about that. Granted i don&#39;t know if there is <em>any</em> benefit to spending time trying to help them by pointing out media/filter bubbles and whatnot, probably not. At what point are people too far gone to bring back from radicalization? Too addictive and now i incinerated that time. Truth is dead.</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=smiling_face_with_tear><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=🥲 src=media-ose/1f972-F415D.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div><div class=chatlog__reaction title=no_entry_sign><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=🚫 src=media-ose/1f6ab-A6294.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div><div class=chatlog__reaction title=heart><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=❤️ src=media-ose/2764-A3D25.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-865111480738643978 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=865111480738643978><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, July 15, 2021 8:04 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-865111480738643978>7/15/2021 8:04 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Speaking the truth in times of universal deceit is a revolutionary act.</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-865111557897453598 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=865111557897453598><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, July 15, 2021 8:04 AM">8:04 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>-=---</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-865111561018015774 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=865111561018015774><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, July 15, 2021 8:04 AM">8:04 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-865111676227420180 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=865111676227420180><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, July 15, 2021 8:04 AM">8:04 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>pick your poison. Informational hot war, which reality is the most realistestesT?</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-865111733469970462 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=865111733469970462><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, July 15, 2021 8:05 AM">8:05 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>---</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-865111929327452161 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=865111929327452161><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, July 15, 2021 8:05 AM">8:05 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>at least everything with OSE is material, mechanical, or based in fundamentals. The very nature of open-sourcing something in it&#39;s highest nature is ideally forming the greatest truth</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-865111994464862209 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=865111994464862209><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, July 15, 2021 8:06 AM">8:06 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>The best way to do something is the way something should be opensourced</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-865112005253398529 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=865112005253398529><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, July 15, 2021 8:06 AM">8:06 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>it&#39;s beautiful</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-865112148115324938 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=865112148115324938><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, July 15, 2021 8:06 AM">8:06 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>aka, the correct way, aka do it right the first time, aka first principles, aka reality of the univers</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-865236005602983937 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=865236005602983937><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/ec74cfea40554984d75748b827287c7d-253B3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(11,150,2) title=pcuci data-user-id=345521804074549249>pcuci</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, July 15, 2021 4:18 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-865236005602983937>7/15/2021 4:18 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Open sourcing is a political act, activism</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=100><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=💯 src=media-ose/1f4af-4CFF5.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>4</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-865614007942774854 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=865614007942774854><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/2c298b90ec031a6c231d3fe0841eff38-C0EC3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=cryptogothslowdao8302 data-user-id=756755259355037766>Paul Pham</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, July 16, 2021 5:21 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-865614007942774854>7/16/2021 5:21 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRyOK8fcs_s">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRyOK8fcs_s</a>
Watch on 2x <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-865634427262337034 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=865634427262337034><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/2c298b90ec031a6c231d3fe0841eff38-C0EC3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=cryptogothslowdao8302 data-user-id=756755259355037766>Paul Pham</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, July 16, 2021 6:42 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-865634427262337034>7/16/2021 6:42 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Stone sealer and polish on concrete floors. Imagine this in Hablab
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YopEUv4cZ6g">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YopEUv4cZ6g</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClymtq3lcOgvrf8eZa3VIFw><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Nabers Stone Co., Inc. - a Multi Faceted Company</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YopEUv4cZ6g"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Concrete Floor grind &amp; seal, grind &amp; Polish in West Sacramento</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/YopEUv4cZ6g width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-865716351753781278 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=865716351753781278><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a67349d5204fa45d8d75ef87bae8aef7-C25C9.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/ec74cfea40554984d75748b827287c7d-253B3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(11,150,2) title=pcuci>pcuci</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'865236005602983937')"> Open sourcing is a political act, activism </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=osrsupport6829 data-user-id=788915694997209123>-- osr-support --</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, July 17, 2021 12:07 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-865716351753781278>7/17/2021 12:07 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>&#39;Open sourcing is a political act, activism&#39;
it can be also just practical; having access to the source isn&#39;t just convenient for the consuming end but also for the author. From what I&#39;ve seen a number of times, there is quite a difference between Open-Sourcing and Open-Source. In PreciousPlastic for instance the former seemed to have more of a marketing gag than an actual Open-Source project where you expect issues or problems get solved as soon it&#39;s reported. Just saying, having the sources available but no resources taking care to fix the content can render it quickly harmful though as we also have seen a lot in PreciousPlastic</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=thumbsup><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=👍 src=media-ose/1f44d-27259.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>2</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-865762046627938384 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=865762046627938384><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5f2e719a9dac42a723b1b51646b8a4b4-F9D26.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=life_long_learner data-user-id=827415572111032350>Paul P.</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, July 17, 2021 3:09 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-865762046627938384>7/17/2021 3:09 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>There is a whole system, including a community and human interactive support and help, testing strategy, roadmap, monthly calls, beyond just releasing the source.</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=thumbsup><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=👍 src=media-ose/1f44d-27259.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-866048977002168331 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=866048977002168331><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/bfda12c56791ee8bacac0539df072826-465AA.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(237,146,238) title=hkienle data-user-id=860164694510010429>hkienle</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, July 17, 2021 10:09 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-866048977002168331>7/17/2021 10:09 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I notice (also by myself) the &quot;not invented here&quot; syndrome: Instead of investing the time to thoroughly research existing OS solutions and then figuring out how to adapt them (and contribute back), people rather build their own solutions (which end up being undocumented and half-baked)...</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=thumbsup><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=👍 src=media-ose/1f44d-27259.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-866184103752630292 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=866184103752630292><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/ec74cfea40554984d75748b827287c7d-253B3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(11,150,2) title=pcuci data-user-id=345521804074549249>pcuci</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, July 18, 2021 7:06 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-866184103752630292>7/18/2021 7:06 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Could be a Feynman thing(?)
“What I cannot create, I do not understand”
“Know how to solve every problem that has been solved”
“I don’t know what’s the matter with people: they don’t learn by understanding; they learn by some other way – by rote or something. Their knowledge is so fragile!”</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-866185181140484096 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=866185181140484096><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, July 18, 2021 7:10 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-866185181140484096>7/18/2021 7:10 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I think it is also media presence / accessibility of data on various projects etc</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-866185576029224971 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=866185576029224971><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, July 18, 2021 7:12 AM">7:12 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Not necessarily that people are lazy, but by making stuff easy to navigate and have some sort of kind of media presence, it makes the project/work &quot;harder to miss&quot;</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-866186119200374794 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=866186119200374794><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, July 18, 2021 7:14 AM">7:14 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Cultural change might happen too later/be happening.
In the 3d printing community, i <em>think</em> checking thingiverse etc pre-loading up some CAD software would be common, but that is just me (no data to back that up really)
So a sort of similar thing of &quot;oh i wish there was a way to&quot; / &quot;i&#39;d want to make a thing that does x&quot; -&gt; &quot;let me look and see if anyone else was thinking of this as well&quot;</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-866435448464211968 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=866435448464211968><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a67349d5204fa45d8d75ef87bae8aef7-C25C9.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=osrsupport6829 data-user-id=788915694997209123>-- osr-support --</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, July 18, 2021 11:45 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-866435448464211968>7/18/2021 11:45 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>&#39;I notice (also by myself) the &quot;not invented here&quot; syndrome&#39; : lol - on the other hand you may want to re-write the whole thing from scratch - not just because of license issues within the project or company context but also sometimes there&#39;s just crap out there. In NodeJS for instance I wasted a lot of time trying 5+ different implementations and they were all crap; happened actually on a daily base - especially with those &#39;fast&#39; moving techs; it&#39;s outdated tomorrow <img
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Take for instance forum software: currently, you are better off going for the best supported code and solution, eg: Discourse but unfortunately you won&#39;t be able to extend or adopt it to your needs per se since you will end up with some &#39;hacks&#39; you have to maintain from update to update. That can be simple things as changing the built-in editor or data models. It&#39;s just not made for changes <img
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Bigger and complex software is often very tight coupled - often for performance or other heavy reasons. &#39;Loose coupled&#39; is something ideal but not the practice and I&#39;ve seen the idea often rejected in big firms - as penalty we can&#39;t collaborate or extend so easily.</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-866436191309922325 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=866436191309922325><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, July 18, 2021 11:48 PM">11:48 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>But great - all those guys - big or small rely all on things as zLib or sort/search algorithms which won&#39;t change forever though as much some students take it for a challenge to improve, almost as sport <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-866438952557608970 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=866438952557608970><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a67349d5204fa45d8d75ef87bae8aef7-C25C9.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=osrsupport6829 data-user-id=788915694997209123>-- osr-support --</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, July 18, 2021 11:59 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-866438952557608970>7/18/2021 11:59 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>For the interested reader, please have a look at some of the big cases, eg Google vs Oracle : <a href="http://www.groklaw.net/articlebasic.php?story=20130213000119924">http://www.groklaw.net/articlebasic.php?story=20130213000119924</a> (Java fork for Android). Reads like a good bed time thriller but also shows how badly innovation and progress is pretty much fu**** up not just by laws and patents but also just stupidity, no matter the scale <img
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src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Monday, July 19, 2021 12:00 AM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=thumbsup><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=👍 src=media-ose/1f44d-27259.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>2</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-866440786475352075 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=866440786475352075><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a67349d5204fa45d8d75ef87bae8aef7-C25C9.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=osrsupport6829 data-user-id=788915694997209123>-- osr-support --</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, July 19, 2021 12:06 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-866440786475352075>7/19/2021 12:06 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Another example for instance - and sorry to come back to it but we&#39;re doing it fulltime - In PreciousPlastic for instance we also thought, hey - let&#39;s get hands dirty and build cool things; but at the end most of our and other contributions got under the bus or just deleted by people who apparently hostage the project for own interests or just do it for fashion - no idea but we couldn&#39;t see our or others interests being put first - so yeah - back to square one and write it as we need it ... happens all the time anywhere <img
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Let&#39;s see what works best - good to have options though <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-866460644554571796 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=866460644554571796><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, July 19, 2021 1:25 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-866460644554571796>7/19/2021 1:25 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Reaching full GVCS machine index completion, with all static content, blueprints, videos, code, etc... I think that alone would be huge for humankind, even if nothing else existed around it. I am a-okay with any contributors not doing long-term, ongoing, community-focused support and such.
If, say, you&#39;re an engineering/creator type, not big on socializing, no marketing, miss meetings, didn&#39;t show up, didn&#39;t send out the thing... but you make progress on a GVCS machine for OSE, and uploaded it? Oh man, that&#39;s beyond wonderful.
I&#39;m even okay with a Theo de Raadt of OpenBSD style situation if it came to it, being iffy and strict on contributions.</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=clap><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=👏 src=media-ose/1f44f-3D381.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>2</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-866460830304174120 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=866460830304174120><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/5f2e719a9dac42a723b1b51646b8a4b4-F9D26.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=life_long_learner>Paul P.</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'865762046627938384')"> There is a whole system, including a community and human interactive support and help, testing strategy, roadmap, monthly calls, beyond just releasing the source. </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, July 19, 2021 1:26 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-866460830304174120>7/19/2021 1:26 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>(In response to this mainly, woopsie)</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=upside_down><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=🙃 src=media-ose/1f643-F8BDC.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>2</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-866858911637438497 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=866858911637438497><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/2c298b90ec031a6c231d3fe0841eff38-C0EC3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=cryptogothslowdao8302 data-user-id=756755259355037766>Paul Pham</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, July 20, 2021 3:47 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-866858911637438497>7/20/2021 3:47 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Sure, there is great technical brilliance in completing the index.
I just mean, to achieve full potential of helping as many people as possible, will require equal talent and work on communicating with the public and some amount of product thinking.
We had a Linux operating system long before RedHat and Ximian came along, and I don&#39;t think Linus needed the commercial success of it to keep going, but it definitely helps.
It was unusual of VA Linux to gift him a contribution, and to the Linux Foundation, when they went public.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-866903814108086282 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=866903814108086282><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, July 20, 2021 6:46 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-866903814108086282>7/20/2021 6:46 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://gpdmcc.com/OSE+Home">https://gpdmcc.com/OSE+Home</a> (Published &quot;Obsidian.md&quot; page - no new updates yet but heyy, custom domain + specifying page works, I likey!)</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://gpdmcc.com/OSE+Home><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">OSE Home</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">OSE Home</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-867020124124217374 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867020124124217374><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/ec74cfea40554984d75748b827287c7d-253B3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(11,150,2) title=pcuci data-user-id=345521804074549249>pcuci</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, July 20, 2021 2:28 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-867020124124217374>7/20/2021 2:28 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="nohbdyahtall">@Nohbdy Ahtall</span> - why obsidian? (isn&#39;t it private?) came across <a href="https://github.com/Zettlr/Zettlr">https://github.com/Zettlr/Zettlr</a> and <a href="https://joplinapp.org/">https://joplinapp.org/</a>
a long time inspiartion being: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZigZag_(software)">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZigZag_(software)</a>
wish the three worked together <img
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The design is centered on an information structure called a zzstructure and its interactive visualizations. Instead of conventional linear text or tree structures, zzstruct...</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-867020124867657768 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867020124867657768><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/def5e0a7ff07e73d477a87df10a3dc4f-BFBB1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(153,45,34) title=Arcane#7800 data-user-id=437808476106784770>Arcane</span> <span class=chatlog__author-tag>BOT</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, July 20, 2021 2:28 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-867020124867657768>7/20/2021 2:28 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="pcuci">@pcuci</span> has reached level <strong>7</strong>. GG!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-867064283056832512 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867064283056832512><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, July 20, 2021 5:23 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-867064283056832512>7/20/2021 5:23 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Ayye, Ted Nelson and Xanadu - yeah I&#39;ve been looking into knowledge management tools for a while, trying all kinds of weird things including CRM-like stuff, self-hosted, etc. It looks like when going over other opinions on Obsidian, I mostly find this abstract thing: &quot;It just feels right&quot;.
I also used Dynalist as almost the only tool for organization when Workflowy and all else failed for me, and they built Dynalist. Maybe it&#39;s comfort in knowing if they made Dynalist that good, I know their next product is going to make the right moves too.</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-867065437203726376 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867065437203726376><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, July 20, 2021 5:28 PM">5:28 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Also weirdly, as someone who hates paying for anything... I really enjoy the Obsidian Publish method of basically having a website with such ease. Most of my website ideas involve some kind of complex knowledge management system too, so this kinda just does that in clicks.
Now that mobile version is out, even though I use my phone for nothing much(it used to be note taking into Dynalist) I&#39;ve been waiting to record info in-the-moment in an Obsidian way as I do on the computer.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-867069438518886441 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867069438518886441><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/ec74cfea40554984d75748b827287c7d-253B3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(11,150,2) title=pcuci data-user-id=345521804074549249>pcuci</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, July 20, 2021 5:44 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-867069438518886441>7/20/2021 5:44 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="nohbdyahtall">@Nohbdy Ahtall</span> remembered: <a href="https://github.com/Zettlr/Zettlr/pull/921#issuecomment-751152324">https://github.com/Zettlr/Zettlr/pull/921#issuecomment-751152324</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(30,35,39,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://github.com/Zettlr/Zettlr/pull/921><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Added graph visualization of notes by JulienMir &#183; Pull Request #921...</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Description
I really wanted the graphical view of the note network so I added it.
By selecting the button on the toolbar, a dialog pops up and displays a network of notes.
Each note is represented ...</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/921-70316> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/921-70316 alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-867069577158066196 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867069577158066196><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, July 20, 2021 5:44 PM">5:44 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>funny thing is that the Zettler maintainer and community seem totally oblivious to visualizing knowledge... (different culture in the humanities?)</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Tuesday, July 20, 2021 6:04 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-867604664232312852 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867604664232312852><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 5:11 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-867604664232312852>7/22/2021 5:11 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Hey, so I joined some random law/legal server in attemp to gain legal-ish opinions on the things(as much as I can tell none of them want to do that xD) I&#39;m working on. I thought I&#39;d copy it here if anyone has opinions on the matter (it&#39;s an &quot;introduction&quot; post).
---</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 5:11 AM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-867604676688740372 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867604676688740372><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 5:11 AM">5:11 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Hello! I am a founder of a game programming club (online/virtual only, not related to any pre-existing entity) and have been long-designing it. Since we&#39;ll be creating software as well as art, assets, and other content, I keep my mind on legal situations.
Currently, I am focusing on observing the <strong>CC0</strong> license (and also keeping in mind BSD-like, MIT, ISC, and similar licenses - but CC0 works more obviously for non-code), and basically making an even more permissive license(or less). Option <code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--inline">A</code> would be simply including &quot;trademark&quot; and &quot;patent&quot; rights to be waived. Option <code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--inline">B</code> would be including &quot;trademark&quot; but explicitly refusing patents at all. Option <code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--inline">C</code> can be either A or B, but stating that &quot;if&quot; we(holders of the license/code/asset) discover or reverse engineer any hidden content you&#39;ve made with the license, we have the permission to use it under this same license and are able to distribute and modify it under the licence&#39;s terms(This is kinda GPL-ish, except instead of forcing others to stay open, we protect ourselves from accidentally or purposefully including derivatives down the line, be them proprietary, patented, trade secret, and so on. They can try to keep it hidden, but if it&#39;s out, it&#39;s ours/anyone&#39;s).
Also looking into legal aspects of moderation (or lack of it) regarding my club. For example, the club has no Discord or anything yet - for as much as I&#39;d love to leave the place open and unmoderated, this apparently is simply not allowed legally, as I or the platform will be at fault. However, I don&#39;t trust people as moderators either, and so I&#39;m looking for a partially-autonomous system plus human moderators, and a way for the community to &quot;moderate the moderators&quot; as well, in a direct-democratic kinda way or similar. Really good kick/ban appeal systems too, and ways to blacklist or publicize mis-moderation incidents.
Hope to brainstorm some ideas on the matter!</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 5:30 AM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-867639525941051422 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867639525941051422><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/ec74cfea40554984d75748b827287c7d-253B3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall>Nohbdy Ahtall</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'867604676688740372')"> Hello! I am a founder of a game programming club (online/virtual only, not related to any pre-existing entity) and have been long-designing it. Since we&#39;ll be creating software as well as art, assets, and other content, I keep my mind on legal situations.
Currently, I am focusing on observing the <strong>CC0</strong> license (and also keeping in mind BSD-like, MIT, ISC, and similar licenses - but CC0 works more obviously for non-code), and basically making an even more permissive license(or less). Option <code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--inline">A</code> would be simply including &quot;trademark&quot; and &quot;patent&quot; rights to be waived. Option <code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--inline">B</code> would be including &quot;trademark&quot; but explicitly refusing patents at all. Option <code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--inline">C</code> can be either A or B, but stating that &quot;if&quot; we(holders of the license/code/asset) discover or reverse engineer any hidden content you&#39;ve made with the license, we have the permission to use it under this same license and are able to distribute and modify it under the licence&#39;s terms(This is kinda GPL-ish, except instead of forcing others to stay open, we protect ourselves from accidentally or purposefully including derivatives down the line, be them proprietary, patented, trade secret, and so on. They can try to keep it hidden, but if it&#39;s out, it&#39;s ours/anyone&#39;s).
Also looking into legal aspects of moderation (or lack of it) regarding my club. For example, the club has no Discord or anything yet - for as much as I&#39;d love to leave the place open and unmoderated, this apparently is simply not allowed legally, as I or the platform will be at fault. However, I don&#39;t trust people as moderators either, and so I&#39;m looking for a partially-autonomous system plus human moderators, and a way for the community to &quot;moderate the moderators&quot; as well, in a direct-democratic kinda way or similar. Really good kick/ban appeal systems too, and ways to blacklist or publicize mis-moderation incidents.
Hope to brainstorm some ideas on the matter! </span> <span class=chatlog__reply-edited-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 5:30 AM">(edited)</span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(11,150,2) title=pcuci data-user-id=345521804074549249>pcuci</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 7:29 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-867639525941051422>7/22/2021 7:29 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://steemit.com/">https://steemit.com/</a> communities seem to be able to self-rrgulate just fine
I&#39;m not sure I understand your legal concern, if you care about equity and fairness, why not go for a post-f/loss license?
<a href="https://ethicalsource.dev/">https://ethicalsource.dev/</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://steemit.com/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Steemit</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Communities without borders. A social network owned and operated by its users, powered by Steem.</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/steemit-F6327.png> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/steemit-F6327.png alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://ethicalsource.dev/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">The Organization for Ethical Source supports a global and multidisc...</div></a></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/ethical_source-80CBD.jpg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/ethical_source-80CBD.jpg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-867641653640167486 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867641653640167486><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/ec74cfea40554984d75748b827287c7d-253B3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(11,150,2) title=pcuci data-user-id=345521804074549249>pcuci</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 7:38 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-867641653640167486>7/22/2021 7:38 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Art can be NFT&#39;d nowadays, which would remove the need to understand ancient legal systems in favour of understanding smart contracts and crypto: exchange of problems for problems</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-867642110147821628 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867642110147821628><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 7:39 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-867642110147821628>7/22/2021 7:39 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I am glad to have another recommendation for a decentralized tech, it&#39;s been a while since I looked into it since I was feeling flooded with options hah.
I recently noticed certain open source entities feeling &quot;at war&quot; with ethical source (even though admittedly I&#39;ve had this ethical-source idea in my head for a long time as well).
Primarily though my issue isn&#39;t preventing people from using/modifying/selling/lacking-attribution/etc, which is why option <code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--inline">A</code>(What MD0 seems to do). However, still confused on the idea of if I make X and someone patents stuff with X in it, potentially hurting my/others own progress on it(for legal reasons, not out-pacing reasons).</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-867642297389547522 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867642297389547522><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 7:40 AM">7:40 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Which is why Option <code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--inline">B</code>: Disallow Patents, or Option <code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--inline">C</code>: Make anything made down the line available to anyone up-the-line, if it is found/leaked/reverse-engineered/etc.</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-867642910097801226 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867642910097801226><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 7:43 AM">7:43 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>(Er, not &quot;make available&quot; as in licensee has to put in effort, but &quot;legally allowed to make available&quot; so if we do, we&#39;re legally safe)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-867643470353268736 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867643470353268736><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/ec74cfea40554984d75748b827287c7d-253B3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall>Nohbdy Ahtall</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'867642110147821628')"> I am glad to have another recommendation for a decentralized tech, it&#39;s been a while since I looked into it since I was feeling flooded with options hah.
I recently noticed certain open source entities feeling &quot;at war&quot; with ethical source (even though admittedly I&#39;ve had this ethical-source idea in my head for a long time as well).
Primarily though my issue isn&#39;t preventing people from using/modifying/selling/lacking-attribution/etc, which is why option <code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--inline">A</code>(What MD0 seems to do). However, still confused on the idea of if I make X and someone patents stuff with X in it, potentially hurting my/others own progress on it(for legal reasons, not out-pacing reasons). </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(11,150,2) title=pcuci data-user-id=345521804074549249>pcuci</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 7:45 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-867643470353268736>7/22/2021 7:45 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>To my understanding, patents need 3 things to be awarded by competent governments:
<ul><li>no prior art, novelty</li><li>usefulness, utility, this probably needs at least a working proof of concept, not just an idea on paper</li><li>newness to a professional in the field</li></ul></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-867643860129546262 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867643860129546262><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 7:46 AM">7:46 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>(I have my name to a patent, which to this day I don&#39;t understand how we got, because anyone of my colleagues could guess what was written in there [that proved to me the patent office doesn&#39;t know what it&#39;s doing])</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-867643984674947072 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867643984674947072><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 7:47 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-867643984674947072>7/22/2021 7:47 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Indeed, and originally I was thinking the first point (prior art) would be enough. As in, if my thing exists beforehand, we&#39;re safe. However I seemed to be finding mention that just existing wasn&#39;t good enough, it had to be closer to &quot;being known&quot; to some degree. Our stuff might be in obscurity forever, but have proof of existing beforehand.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-867644086062940190 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867644086062940190><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 7:47 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-867644086062940190>7/22/2021 7:47 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>hop on google patents and look up highview power</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-867644192196263946 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867644192196263946><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 7:48 AM">7:48 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>they have dozens of patents on things that were theorized in the american civil war</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-867644285276520459 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867644285276520459><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 7:48 AM">7:48 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>they just re-wrote it in &quot;Patanese&quot;
<a href="https://patents.google.com/?q=power&amp;assignee=Highview+Enterprises+Limited">https://patents.google.com/?q=power&amp;assignee=Highview+Enterprises+Limited</a></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 7:53 AM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://patents.google.com/?q=power&amp;assignee=Highview+Enterprises+Limited"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Google Patents</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Search and read the full text of patents from around the world with Google Patents, and find prior art in our index of non-patent literature.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-867645226339663902 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867645226339663902><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 7:52 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-867645226339663902>7/22/2021 7:52 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I wonder if they could have done it if those theorized ideas had a &quot;not allowed to patent&quot; stamp on &#39;em. That&#39;s why I&#39;m thinking option B. However - as much as I want patents to not exist(I think), I mostly just want to protect what is made from those with patents from affecting what is made under this license.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-867645814280028211 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867645814280028211><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/ec74cfea40554984d75748b827287c7d-253B3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall>Nohbdy Ahtall</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'867643984674947072')"> Indeed, and originally I was thinking the first point (prior art) would be enough. As in, if my thing exists beforehand, we&#39;re safe. However I seemed to be finding mention that just existing wasn&#39;t good enough, it had to be closer to &quot;being known&quot; to some degree. Our stuff might be in obscurity forever, but have proof of existing beforehand. </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(11,150,2) title=pcuci data-user-id=345521804074549249>pcuci</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 7:54 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-867645814280028211>7/22/2021 7:54 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Original to people versed in the craft; that means nonobvious to the experts who could have thought of it but didn&#39;t
Many times in history same scientific discoveries were made by different people in different parts of the world; we&#39;re all building on the shoulders of Giants, a lot of shared context exists</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-867646054127370281 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867646054127370281><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/ec74cfea40554984d75748b827287c7d-253B3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall>Nohbdy Ahtall</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'867645226339663902')"> I wonder if they could have done it if those theorized ideas had a &quot;not allowed to patent&quot; stamp on &#39;em. That&#39;s why I&#39;m thinking option B. However - as much as I want patents to not exist(I think), I mostly just want to protect what is made from those with patents from affecting what is made under this license. </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(11,150,2) title=pcuci data-user-id=345521804074549249>pcuci</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 7:55 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-867646054127370281>7/22/2021 7:55 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I think you may be confusing patents with licenses(?)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-867646355483656192 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867646355483656192><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 7:56 AM">7:56 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>My understanding is that real material things/objects can&#39;t be licensed, only the designs to create them can. But real things can be pattented</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 7:57 AM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-867646807621107732 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867646807621107732><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 7:58 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-867646807621107732>7/22/2021 7:58 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Yes I mean I intend to make software, art, games, simulations, tools, and so on under a super permissive license. I want that license to mention patents(even though I know this is weird in software world, but does happen it seems), so that it either allows the patent and our stuff to co-exist, or for the patent to not exist.
If possible I&#39;d totally apply this license, fitting or not, to any possible real creations our club makes as well. Try to be like an anti-patent troll, pre-inventing the crap outta stuff before others can claim it xP</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-867647061297725490 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867647061297725490><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/ec74cfea40554984d75748b827287c7d-253B3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(11,150,2) title=pcuci data-user-id=345521804074549249>pcuci</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 7:59 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-867647061297725490>7/22/2021 7:59 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>&quot;for the patent to not exist&quot; is covered by the prior art rule</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-867647314776817684 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867647314776817684><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 8:00 AM">8:00 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Just save a copy of your files on the web, or better yet, hash it, tack it to a blockchain, and only show it when a patent gets awarded to an idea you came up before</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-867647538583568464 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867647538583568464><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 8:01 AM">8:01 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>You can use the cryptographic proof as proof to the judge when you fight the awarded patent</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-867647945964912670 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867647945964912670><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 8:03 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-867647945964912670>7/22/2021 8:03 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>The problem I&#39;m hearing about is that the terms &quot;publicly known&quot; for the prior art rule, is weird - I&#39;m seeing explanations that having this kind of proof isn&#39;t enough always, even if it&#39;s posted to the internet. It&#39;s as if it needs some kind of weird &quot;threshold&quot; of being publicly known, mentioning things like demonstrations, magazine articles, etc. I&#39;ll try to see if I can find any example of something proven to exist nicely before a patent, but it wasn&#39;t &quot;known&quot; enough and therefore the patent was allowed.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-867648129535574016 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867648129535574016><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/ec74cfea40554984d75748b827287c7d-253B3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/ec74cfea40554984d75748b827287c7d-253B3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(11,150,2) title=pcuci>pcuci</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'867647314776817684')"> Just save a copy of your files on the web, or better yet, hash it, tack it to a blockchain, and only show it when a patent gets awarded to an idea you came up before </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(11,150,2) title=pcuci data-user-id=345521804074549249>pcuci</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 8:03 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-867648129535574016>7/22/2021 8:03 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Nah, a judge will decide</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-867648318108073994 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867648318108073994><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 8:04 AM">8:04 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>The rules are there for guidance, at the end of the day, you need to convince the judge when you dispute a patent</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 8:05 AM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-867648736472465409 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867648736472465409><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 8:06 AM">8:06 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Remember that a startup&#39;s valuation goes past $1M once they have a patent, so there is huge incentive to create shitty patents</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-867648993906393138 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867648993906393138><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 8:07 AM">8:07 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>An awarded patent means nothing in terms of it being defensible; a fake kind of &quot;quality control&quot;</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-867649419440816129 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867649419440816129><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 8:09 AM">8:09 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Plus, the patent lawyers I interacted with didn&#39;t understand what was written in the patent, they were not software engineers; and in Europe software patents don&#39;t even exist</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-867649693680140298 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867649693680140298><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 8:10 AM">8:10 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Most startups seem to use &quot;patent&quot; and &quot;patent pending&quot; as marketing hype to generate clueless investor interest - any serious investor that does their due diligence would at least read the patent and form an independent opinion of their own</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 8:12 AM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-867650639509061632 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867650639509061632><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 8:13 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-867650639509061632>7/22/2021 8:13 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Indeed, alas this is why I&#39;m worried about Option <code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--inline">A</code>, which is just like CC0 except it adds:
<code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--multiline nohighlight"> v. trademark rights;
vi. patent rights;</code>
into the list of rights to be waived as mentioned:
<code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--multiline nohighlight">2. Waiver. To the greatest extent permitted by, but not in contravention
of, applicable law, Affirmer hereby overtly, fully, permanently,
irrevocably and unconditionally waives, abandons, and surrenders all of
Affirmer&#39;s Copyright and Related Rights</code>
... etc.</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-867650872724029480 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867650872724029480><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 8:14 AM">8:14 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Which is why I&#39;m unsure if it&#39;s unwise to allow this explicit waiver, or to explicitly deny it. CC0 just doesn&#39;t talk about it(nor trademark)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-867651268238508052 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867651268238508052><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 8:16 AM">8:16 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I&#39;m willing to crazily allow the stuff I make to be patented or trademarked(even if that doesn&#39;t make sense on the other user&#39;s end to do so) - I just don&#39;t want them coming back at me/us legally in any form, causing projects and art and such to be at risk.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-867651567271673856 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867651567271673856><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/ec74cfea40554984d75748b827287c7d-253B3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(11,150,2) title=pcuci data-user-id=345521804074549249>pcuci</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 8:17 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-867651567271673856>7/22/2021 8:17 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>They can sue you, and a competent judge would throw the lawsuit out of court; we all have the right to sue :-)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-867651730011455508 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867651730011455508><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 8:18 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-867651730011455508>7/22/2021 8:18 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Hehe, ahh well thank you so much for this perspective - I definitely haven&#39;t heard much of anyone&#39;s opinion on this matter. Thank you - of course I won&#39;t take it as legal advice so no worries haha</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-867651817013641236 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867651817013641236><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 8:18 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-867651817013641236>7/22/2021 8:18 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>assuming they don&#39;t do business in a specific province, and so you go to the courts in that province, which are paid off/bribed by the patent holder</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-867651858204852224 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867651858204852224><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 8:18 AM">8:18 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>but those are edge cases</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-867651951217737748 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867651951217737748><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/ec74cfea40554984d75748b827287c7d-253B3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(11,150,2) title=pcuci data-user-id=345521804074549249>pcuci</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 8:19 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-867651951217737748>7/22/2021 8:19 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Trademarks and servicemarks work similarly to patents(?) You can&#39;t create a McDonad&#39;s clone use the same look and feel, and experience; that would be confusing to consumers</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 8:20 AM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-867652283167408169 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867652283167408169><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 8:20 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-867652283167408169>7/22/2021 8:20 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>It&#39;s strange yes, as I want GPD (my game programming club) to be usable as a &quot;template&quot; of sorts. In the end there may never be a single, centralized GPD, but rather an assortment of copycats and mimics - which I am totally cool with, and I want to allow it.</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 8:20 AM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-867652546809430036 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867652546809430036><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 8:21 AM">8:21 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>The club itself, not just the code and assets, but the governance methods, processes, ideas, all of it - I want it all super-permissively free, just not in a way that it can be &quot;locked down&quot; legally later on.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-867652605143679006 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867652605143679006><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/ec74cfea40554984d75748b827287c7d-253B3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(11,150,2) title=pcuci data-user-id=345521804074549249>pcuci</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 8:21 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-867652605143679006>7/22/2021 8:21 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Well, isn&#39;t NodeJS trademarked?</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-867652641496498196 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867652641496498196><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 8:21 AM">8:21 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Isn&#39;t OSE trademarked?</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-867652706515943434 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867652706515943434><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 8:22 AM">8:22 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I think the GNU logo is explicitly not trademarked</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-867652774573506600 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867652774573506600><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 8:22 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-867652774573506600>7/22/2021 8:22 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Ooh la la I might need to look into GNU&#39;s again, hmm..</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-867653189846827028 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867653189846827028><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/ec74cfea40554984d75748b827287c7d-253B3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(11,150,2) title=pcuci data-user-id=345521804074549249>pcuci</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 8:24 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-867653189846827028>7/22/2021 8:24 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>if you&#39;re ok with people using your graphical assets, then release those to public domain(?)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-867653389897433098 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867653389897433098><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 8:24 AM">8:24 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://choosealicense.com/">https://choosealicense.com/</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://choosealicense.com/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Choose an open source license</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Non-judgmental guidance on choosing a license for your open source project</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-867653543275921408 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867653543275921408><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 8:25 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-867653543275921408>7/22/2021 8:25 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I heard sending straight to public domain has some problems, and that&#39;s why I look to CC0 - which it pretty much is a public domain granting license, but with extra protection from those default public domain problems.</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=thumbsup><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=👍 src=media-ose/1f44d-27259.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-867653675966922792 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867653675966922792><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 8:25 AM">8:25 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/unknown-421FB.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/unknown-421FB.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: unknown.png (17.04 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-867653895856455690 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867653895856455690><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 8:26 AM">8:26 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I guess those problems are somewhat mentioned in <a href="https://creativecommons.org/share-your-work/public-domain/cc0/">https://creativecommons.org/share-your-work/public-domain/cc0/</a> under &quot;The Problem&quot;</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href="https://creativecommons.org/author/nathan/"><div class=chatlog__embed-author>nathan</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://creativecommons.org/share-your-work/public-domain/cc0/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">CC0 - Creative Commons</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">“No Rights Reserved” CC0 enables scientists, educators, artists and other creators and owners of copyright- or database-protected content to waive those interests in their works and thereby place them as completely as possible in the public domain, so that others may freely build upon, enhance and reuse the works for any purposes without restric...</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/88x31-D2CC1.png> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/88x31-D2CC1.png alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-867653945622396928 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867653945622396928><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/ec74cfea40554984d75748b827287c7d-253B3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(11,150,2) title=pcuci data-user-id=345521804074549249>pcuci</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 8:27 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-867653945622396928>7/22/2021 8:27 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://choosealicense.com/licenses/unlicense/">https://choosealicense.com/licenses/unlicense/</a> ?</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://choosealicense.com/licenses/unlicense/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">The Unlicense</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">A license with no conditions whatsoever which dedicates works to the public domain. Unlicensed works, modifications, and larger works may be distributed under different terms and without source code.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-867654521634947072 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867654521634947072><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 8:29 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-867654521634947072>7/22/2021 8:29 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I started on that one for sure. The other reason I had to reach for CC0 though is that my favorite licenses mention this as &quot;Software&quot;.
However, I want to put this licenst on art, characters, dialogue, storylines, diagrams, sound effects, melodies, character traits, etc. Everything other than code as well.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-867654586515718154 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867654586515718154><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/ec74cfea40554984d75748b827287c7d-253B3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(11,150,2) title=pcuci data-user-id=345521804074549249>pcuci</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 8:29 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-867654586515718154>7/22/2021 8:29 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Unfortunately the systems we inhabit are not designed for freedom: <a href="https://choosealicense.com/no-permission/">https://choosealicense.com/no-permission/</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://choosealicense.com/no-permission/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">No License</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">You’re under no obligation to choose a license and it’s your right not to include one with your code or project. But please note that opting out of open source licenses doesn’t mean you’re opting out of copyright law.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-867655122048909322 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867655122048909322><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/ec74cfea40554984d75748b827287c7d-253B3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall>Nohbdy Ahtall</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'867654521634947072')"> I started on that one for sure. The other reason I had to reach for CC0 though is that my favorite licenses mention this as &quot;Software&quot;.
However, I want to put this licenst on art, characters, dialogue, storylines, diagrams, sound effects, melodies, character traits, etc. Everything other than code as well. </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(11,150,2) title=pcuci data-user-id=345521804074549249>pcuci</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 8:31 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-867655122048909322>7/22/2021 8:31 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Yeah, you&#39;ll need multiple licenses most likely; not just one code-friendly or assets-friendly: <a href="https://choosealicense.com/non-software/">https://choosealicense.com/non-software/</a></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 8:32 AM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://choosealicense.com/non-software/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Non-Software Licenses</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Non-judgmental guidance on choosing a license for your open source project</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-867655193504251954 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867655193504251954><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 8:31 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-867655193504251954>7/22/2021 8:31 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>The CC0&#39;s big points are that, even in countries where they don&#39;t recognize what&#39;s being given up, they have a clear:
<code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--multiline nohighlight">Should any part of the License for any reason be judged legally invalid or ineffective under applicable law, such partial invalidity or ineffectiveness shall not invalidate the remainder of the License</code>
Which has actual lawyers say &quot;This is well-made legally&quot; and such.</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-867655569100111882 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867655569100111882><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 8:33 AM">8:33 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>In fact I think another big point for CC0 is that it has a better track record for doing its job in court I believe, in comparison to others that may have not been battle-tested at all yet</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-867655638644162560 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867655638644162560><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/ec74cfea40554984d75748b827287c7d-253B3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(11,150,2) title=pcuci data-user-id=345521804074549249>pcuci</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 8:33 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-867655638644162560>7/22/2021 8:33 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Yeah, but lawyers aren&#39;t judges; they&#39;re just guessing here</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-867655817058058281 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867655817058058281><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 8:34 AM">8:34 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>They hope the text is portable to multiple countries, but the evidence for that is actual prior won-lost lawsuits. Study those</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 8:34 AM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-867656135338885150 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867656135338885150><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/ec74cfea40554984d75748b827287c7d-253B3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall>Nohbdy Ahtall</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'867655569100111882')"> In fact I think another big point for CC0 is that it has a better track record for doing its job in court I believe, in comparison to others that may have not been battle-tested at all yet </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(11,150,2) title=pcuci data-user-id=345521804074549249>pcuci</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 8:35 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-867656135338885150>7/22/2021 8:35 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I don&#39;t trust any word of that sentence :-)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-867656570182303755 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867656570182303755><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 8:37 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-867656570182303755>7/22/2021 8:37 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Oh yeah I guess I was looking at this regarding what I thought were cases:
<a href="https://www.rd-alliance.org/sites/default/files/cc0-analysis-kreuzer.pdf">https://www.rd-alliance.org/sites/default/files/cc0-analysis-kreuzer.pdf</a>
<code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--inline">Validity of the Creative Commons Zero 1.0 Universal Public Domain Dedication and its usability for bibliographic metadata from
the perspective of German Copyright Law </code></span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-867656764353937408 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867656764353937408><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/ec74cfea40554984d75748b827287c7d-253B3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(11,150,2) title=pcuci data-user-id=345521804074549249>pcuci</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 8:38 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-867656764353937408>7/22/2021 8:38 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Easy to test</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-867656904604254278 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867656904604254278><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 8:38 AM">8:38 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>You can sue me, take me to court, and we&#39;ll play out a scenario you care about</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-867657079115350026 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867657079115350026><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 8:39 AM">8:39 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>This is how we create &quot;prior art&quot; for the legal system to function better</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-867657289404776448 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867657289404776448><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 8:40 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-867657289404776448>7/22/2021 8:40 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Hmm it does appear that Creative Common&#39;s cases are... well they&#39;re CC licenses but not CC0 specific haha:
<a href="https://legaldb.creativecommons.org/cases/?keywords=">https://legaldb.creativecommons.org/cases/?keywords=</a></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 8:40 AM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://legaldb.creativecommons.org/cases/?keywords="><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">CC Legal Database</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">This database contains case law and legal scholarship about CC licenses and the issues that relate to their enforceability and interpretation.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-867657289942827018 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867657289942827018><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/ec74cfea40554984d75748b827287c7d-253B3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(11,150,2) title=pcuci data-user-id=345521804074549249>pcuci</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 8:40 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-867657289942827018>7/22/2021 8:40 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>We can set a precedent</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 8:40 AM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-867657587834093569 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867657587834093569><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 8:41 AM">8:41 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>But just because 1 judge may agree with us doesn&#39;t stop anyone else to appeal; and so the story goes :-)</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 8:42 AM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-867658034757763072 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867658034757763072><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 8:43 AM">8:43 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I prefer Ethereum smart contracts where the &quot;interpreter&quot; is the python programming language (or whatever), and not human lawyers and judges ;-)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-867658100021264404 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867658100021264404><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 8:43 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-867658100021264404>7/22/2021 8:43 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>(Woops btw earlier I said CC0 doesn&#39;t mention trademark/patent, it does:
<code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--multiline nohighlight"> a. No trademark or patent rights held by Affirmer are waived, abandoned,
surrendered, licensed or otherwise affected by this document.</code>)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-867658249331277854 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867658249331277854><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 8:44 AM">8:44 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Gwahh I totally agree with that! I&#39;ve been wanting automated and/or code-instead-of-English lawmaking for... since I was a kid and discovered programming! Hah</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-867658484346781696 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867658484346781696><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 8:45 AM">8:45 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I just haven&#39;t made up my mind about the middle-men yet - the language, the Ethereum-specificness - etc. Definitely in my top favorites, but.... heh</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-867658585608945685 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867658585608945685><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/ec74cfea40554984d75748b827287c7d-253B3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall>Nohbdy Ahtall</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'867658249331277854')"> Gwahh I totally agree with that! I&#39;ve been wanting automated and/or code-instead-of-English lawmaking for... since I was a kid and discovered programming! Hah </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(11,150,2) title=pcuci data-user-id=345521804074549249>pcuci</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 8:45 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-867658585608945685>7/22/2021 8:45 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>So did the DAO people. CC: <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="life_long_learner">@Paul P.</span> ;-)
Turns out they lost to the &quot;Vitalik be king&quot; crowd that forked Ethereum Classic</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 8:46 AM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-867658955602133022 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867658955602133022><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 8:46 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-867658955602133022>7/22/2021 8:46 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I&#39;ve always wanted Mesh Networking + Smart Contracts/DAO + Renewable Energy. Need enough mesh nodes though of course heh</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-867702380128894986 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867702380128894986><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/bfda12c56791ee8bacac0539df072826-465AA.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(237,146,238) title=hkienle data-user-id=860164694510010429>hkienle</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 11:39 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-867702380128894986>7/22/2021 11:39 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Just pointing out the obvious: The patent system is completely broken. IMHO, the best you can do is put everything you do in the open because this at least prevents others from claiming it as a patent themselves. (If a big player decides to start patent litigation against you, you have already lost even if their claim is nonsense.)
On the ligher side: <a href="https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn2178-boy-takes-swing-at-us-patents/">https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn2178-boy-takes-swing-at-us-patents/</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/unknown-0D9EA.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/unknown-0D9EA.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: unknown.png (21.65 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn2178-boy-takes-swing-at-us-patents/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Boy takes swing at US patents</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">A patent for swinging sideways on a child&#39;s swing is awarded – a &quot;legalistic definition of obviousness&quot; may be why</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/ns-logo-for-featured-image-20AFE.jpg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/ns-logo-for-featured-image-20AFE.jpg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-867730435291086848 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867730435291086848><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/74914fcc38f06749c4d37bf3c182c6f2-7C205.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/ec74cfea40554984d75748b827287c7d-253B3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(11,150,2) title=pcuci>pcuci</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'867649693680140298')"> Most startups seem to use &quot;patent&quot; and &quot;patent pending&quot; as marketing hype to generate clueless investor interest - any serious investor that does their due diligence would at least read the patent and form an independent opinion of their own </span> <span class=chatlog__reply-edited-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 8:12 AM">(edited)</span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=thejiralhanae data-user-id=185547934048190464>vanderjahre</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 1:30 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-867730435291086848>7/22/2021 1:30 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Also, a reminder that &quot;patent pending&quot; is pretty snake oily. You are legally allowed to claim patent pending when you submit a provisional patent application, which is a document that basically &quot;holds your place&quot; until you get around to filing officially. The application isn&#39;t examined or verified by any expert or official. It&#39;s just a signifier of &quot;a filled out a form and paid $65&quot;</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-867730827475419197 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867730827475419197><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 1:32 PM">1:32 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>But kind of stated above, as with many things in the US law, there&#39;s no real fool-proof safeguard when it comes down to a judge making a decision. Lawyers get paid lots of money to reinforce your case in your favor, because nothing is given and nothing is absolute.</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-867731243751440401 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867731243751440401><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 1:34 PM">1:34 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Only real safeguard for keeping stuff not-patented is trying to make sure what you have is public and well documented, so that if litigation comes, you have the best case to show for existing prior art.</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=thumbsup><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=👍 src=media-ose/1f44d-27259.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-867814502568165386 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867814502568165386><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 7:05 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-867814502568165386>7/22/2021 7:05 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Jwo5qc78QU">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Jwo5qc78QU</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBa659QWEk1AI4Tg--mrJ2A><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Tom Scott</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Jwo5qc78QU"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">YouTube&#39;s Copyright System Isn&#39;t Broken. The World&#39;s Is.</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/1Jwo5qc78QU width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-867815087485878303 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867815087485878303><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 7:07 PM">7:07 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>copyright is even dumber than patent law IMO</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-867815231639781377 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867815231639781377><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 7:07 PM">7:07 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I think some form of documentation of &quot;first mention&quot; / who came up with it, and just people not supporting assholes who steal ideas <em>should</em> work ?</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-867815605712977960 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867815605712977960><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 7:09 PM">7:09 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I feel like it is almost unenforceable to prevent copyright infringement/pirating etc, short of some sort of HEAVILY government internet, and portable data storage (hard drives, thumb drives etc) not existing.</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 7:09 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-867817615572205578 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867817615572205578><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 7:17 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-867817615572205578>7/22/2021 7:17 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>People always say <em>internet outrage has too much power</em> etc, and i say just use that as some sort check/balance on the risk/issue of copyright/patent infringement</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-867864483283861514 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867864483283861514><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 10:23 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-867864483283861514>7/22/2021 10:23 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Indeed - however I&#39;m still wondering about my dilemma of &quot;waiving all my patent rights&quot; versus &quot;stating that you may not patent this idea&quot;. Don&#39;t you think there&#39;s a little more &quot;oomph&quot; involved if, not only did it exist prior and was documented, but it said &quot;You&#39;re not given permission for patent&quot;.
And perhaps a little less if I say &quot;I waive all patent rights&quot;.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-867880695807082528 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867880695807082528><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 11:28 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-867880695807082528>7/22/2021 11:28 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>i guess formal liscence wise, isn&#39;t there the FLOSS one, with the must attribute thing?</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-867880829836197919 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867880829836197919><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 11:28 PM">11:28 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I may not understand how much you should attribute it, but my desire would be like scientific papers, just a proper mention and whatnot</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-867901015986274314 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867901015986274314><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/ec74cfea40554984d75748b827287c7d-253B3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall>Nohbdy Ahtall</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'867864483283861514')"> Indeed - however I&#39;m still wondering about my dilemma of &quot;waiving all my patent rights&quot; versus &quot;stating that you may not patent this idea&quot;. Don&#39;t you think there&#39;s a little more &quot;oomph&quot; involved if, not only did it exist prior and was documented, but it said &quot;You&#39;re not given permission for patent&quot;.
And perhaps a little less if I say &quot;I waive all patent rights&quot;. </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(11,150,2) title=pcuci data-user-id=345521804074549249>pcuci</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, July 23, 2021 12:48 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-867901015986274314>7/23/2021 12:48 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>That presupposes you have a patent to begin with(?)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-867903019705434113 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867903019705434113><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/ec74cfea40554984d75748b827287c7d-253B3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze>Eric Lotze</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'867880829836197919')"> I may not understand how much you should attribute it, but my desire would be like scientific papers, just a proper mention and whatnot </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(11,150,2) title=pcuci data-user-id=345521804074549249>pcuci</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, July 23, 2021 12:56 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-867903019705434113>7/23/2021 12:56 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Lol: <a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stigler%27s_law_of_eponymy">https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stigler%27s_law_of_eponymy</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(234,236,240,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stigler%27s_law_of_eponymy><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Stigler%27s_law_of_eponymy</div></a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-867922495028731934 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=867922495028731934><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, July 23, 2021 2:14 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-867922495028731934>7/23/2021 2:14 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I am on the path of no attribution actually, literally zero work to copy my stuff licensed under this. That law right there, I admittedly would not want my name attributed to any great discovery - I wouldn&#39;t find it fitting, useful, and I simply don&#39;t want it. I don&#39;t believe much in credit, and it&#39;s not like I expect to convince others to give out creditless tools... the only way to carve that path is to start it with a license/waiver and then start churning out the tools myself.
I thought I could waive my own patent rights ahead of time, as in &quot;I&#39;m not going to patent this, so if you use this code/art/etc, I can&#39;t patent it and risk your derived works&quot;?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-868245134226112553 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=868245134226112553><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/ec74cfea40554984d75748b827287c7d-253B3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall>Nohbdy Ahtall</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'867922495028731934')"> I am on the path of no attribution actually, literally zero work to copy my stuff licensed under this. That law right there, I admittedly would not want my name attributed to any great discovery - I wouldn&#39;t find it fitting, useful, and I simply don&#39;t want it. I don&#39;t believe much in credit, and it&#39;s not like I expect to convince others to give out creditless tools... the only way to carve that path is to start it with a license/waiver and then start churning out the tools myself.
I thought I could waive my own patent rights ahead of time, as in &quot;I&#39;m not going to patent this, so if you use this code/art/etc, I can&#39;t patent it and risk your derived works&quot;? </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(11,150,2) title=pcuci data-user-id=345521804074549249>pcuci</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, July 23, 2021 11:36 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-868245134226112553>7/23/2021 11:36 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>That&#39;s the default behaviour if you publicly post your inventions
Note that the document that describes the potentially pattentable thing is under your authorship, by default all rights reserved to you; it sounded like you wanted that too to be released into the public domain (which is not the default behaviour, and why I think your CC0 license idea makes sense if that&#39;s what you were aiming for)</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Friday, July 23, 2021 11:37 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-868490808830099499 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=868490808830099499><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, July 24, 2021 3:52 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-868490808830099499>7/24/2021 3:52 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Indeed I am aiming for maximum rights-giving-up-ness xP
(Also oops I misinterpreted that Law, thought it was just the act of being named after, not the mis-crediting hah)
I&#39;m starting to re-lean towards explicitly rejecting trademarking and patenting, for myself and derivative works. It might not do anything, but I feel it&#39;d help in case someone tried to trademark, say, a free piece of art, and then come after my original they used, stating it messes with their trademark. I think looking at my license for it, which exists before their trademark, would have some help.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-868495923876077568 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=868495923876077568><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, July 24, 2021 4:12 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-868495923876077568>7/24/2021 4:12 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>---
Update regarding the work on a CC0 modified/upgraded license that takes a stance on trademark/patent: Originally, it was to waive those rights so that the person releasing under that license couldn&#39;t trademark/patent. Creative Commons <em>wants</em> the ability for trademark to co-exist eith CC0, I do not.
So, now the decision is:
(1)Explicitly state that the affirmer disallows trademarking &amp; patenting, both for self and any derivatives --
or (2)explicitly state that work or derivatives are not allowed to be targetted by trademark and patent claims, which kinda ruins trademark/patent anyway since anyone can &quot;fork&quot; the content from this license as a safe haven. It makes trademark/patenting useless and likely prone to denial for those asking. However, patents do happen on things that are &quot;prior art&quot;, so #2 might protect moreso in case of that.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-868506543396626472 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=868506543396626472><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/ec74cfea40554984d75748b827287c7d-253B3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(11,150,2) title=pcuci data-user-id=345521804074549249>pcuci</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, July 24, 2021 4:54 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-868506543396626472>7/24/2021 4:54 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Why not release your content anonymously? <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="nohbdyahtall">@Nohbdy Ahtall</span>
I&#39;d like to see a judge wrap their heads around that ;-)
Satoshi did very well pseudonymously releasing his code and no-doubt patentable invention to the world</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Saturday, July 24, 2021 4:56 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-868506545187606558 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=868506545187606558><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/def5e0a7ff07e73d477a87df10a3dc4f-BFBB1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(153,45,34) title=Arcane#7800 data-user-id=437808476106784770>Arcane</span> <span class=chatlog__author-tag>BOT</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, July 24, 2021 4:54 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-868506545187606558>7/24/2021 4:54 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="pcuci">@pcuci</span> has reached level <strong>8</strong>. GG!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-868507080087191624 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=868507080087191624><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, July 24, 2021 4:57 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-868507080087191624>7/24/2021 4:57 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I do plan on doing that actually, and I just got word from an IPR lawyer that public domain (which is what CC0 is mostly), doesn&#39;t need an author.
However, most open source license templates have the ol LICENSE &lt;copyright year&gt; &lt;copyright holder&gt; thing.
Even CC0 doesn&#39;t have that (benefits of not caring about attribution I&#39;d assume)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-868507255966953523 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=868507255966953523><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, July 24, 2021 4:57 PM">4:57 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Truly this content may be released out into the wild, under any unknown account. Just the content, and that license will exist.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-868507575233175623 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=868507575233175623><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/ec74cfea40554984d75748b827287c7d-253B3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(11,150,2) title=pcuci data-user-id=345521804074549249>pcuci</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, July 24, 2021 4:59 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-868507575233175623>7/24/2021 4:59 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Maybe, to think of this another way, what are viruses and malware released under? ;-)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-868507706124804176 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=868507706124804176><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, July 24, 2021 4:59 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-868507706124804176>7/24/2021 4:59 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Was also just talking to someone about the academic publishing world too, saying:
<div class="chatlog__markdown-quote"><div class="chatlog__markdown-quote-border"></div><div class="chatlog__markdown-quote-content">I wonder how academic journals would react to an explosion of people publishing research under the license I speak of. On one hand, they could re-release it on their own, but they couldn&#39;t enforce much I&#39;d imagine. What if they were out-paced by it too.
I know a bit of the logic behind their proprietary-like mindset - so that there&#39;s some kind of &quot;authority&quot; and copycats with maybe false info don&#39;t drown it out.
Buut... what if...
I still feel like having their &quot;stamp of approval&quot; still would matter and help a lot.</div></div></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-868507908688707606 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=868507908688707606><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, July 24, 2021 5:00 PM">5:00 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>As per usual, anything not released under anything has a bunch of &quot;default/automatic&quot; rights set to it. They become copyright holder, or even if it&#39;s default public domain, it is treated as a &quot;gift&quot; that the owner can apparently &quot;take back&quot; if desired, which is why CC0 renounces that ability.</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-868508327578058823 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=868508327578058823><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, July 24, 2021 5:02 PM">5:02 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I&#39;d think academic research and such can thrive well and fine without an author, attribution, and even under this license with copycats making misinformed changes.
It&#39;s still up to the curators and hosters of that content, and for people to trust the hosts of the research and their stamp of approval.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-868508328215601212 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=868508328215601212><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/def5e0a7ff07e73d477a87df10a3dc4f-BFBB1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(153,45,34) title=Arcane#7800 data-user-id=437808476106784770>Arcane</span> <span class=chatlog__author-tag>BOT</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, July 24, 2021 5:02 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-868508328215601212>7/24/2021 5:02 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="nohbdyahtall">@Nohbdy Ahtall</span> has reached level <strong>13</strong>. GG!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-868509042216165437 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=868509042216165437><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, July 24, 2021 5:04 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-868509042216165437>7/24/2021 5:04 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I actually kinda worry about Open Science which released even under CC0(unlikely, most people can&#39;t fathom not being attributed, so probably CC BY-something-something), since the iffy trademark/patent thing.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-868509485138866198 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=868509485138866198><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/ec74cfea40554984d75748b827287c7d-253B3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(11,150,2) title=pcuci data-user-id=345521804074549249>pcuci</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, July 24, 2021 5:06 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-868509485138866198>7/24/2021 5:06 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>It&#39;s ingrained in that system; I don&#39;t think one can become a PhD without an advisor - there is always this nagging link back the the &quot;cult&quot;</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-868510218575814746 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=868510218575814746><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, July 24, 2021 5:09 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-868510218575814746>7/24/2021 5:09 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Mm, I wanna make a new cult of super-permissive, selfless(and maybe even anonymous like you said) technological progress. Flood the marketplace, the scientific world, and everywhere - so much free info, art, code, blueprints... all from volunteers, businesses can&#39;t keep up, even if they copy-paste one of the free bits, the volunteers still improve their tech faster than any closed-source fork could.</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-868510439296872498 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=868510439296872498><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, July 24, 2021 5:10 PM">5:10 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I assume it&#39;d be deemed &quot;anti-competitive&quot; and there&#39;d then be laws against this movement hah. A turning point choice between dystopia and otherwise. xP</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Saturday, July 24, 2021 5:10 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-868513178802339871 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=868513178802339871><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/ec74cfea40554984d75748b827287c7d-253B3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(11,150,2) title=pcuci data-user-id=345521804074549249>pcuci</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, July 24, 2021 5:21 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-868513178802339871>7/24/2021 5:21 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Isn&#39;t that the default anyway, even with the current system, but on longer timescales? Both patents and copyright expire</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-868513370356195349 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=868513370356195349><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, July 24, 2021 5:22 PM">5:22 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>So you don&#39;t mind if the army or a terrorist uses your contributions to go off and kill people? (re: permissive)</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Saturday, July 24, 2021 5:22 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-868514035283423243 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=868514035283423243><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, July 24, 2021 5:24 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-868514035283423243>7/24/2021 5:24 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I don&#39;t mind, especially as I feel like military forces can get away with bypassing legal systems anyhow. I think open everything leads to everyone being able to understand their technology - a proprietary bomb or weapon is harder to defend against, defuse, counter, and so on if it is obfuscated by proprietarism.</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-868515263149142096 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=868515263149142096><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, July 24, 2021 5:29 PM">5:29 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Also leading towards a more tech-savvy world - more programmers/creators over users/consumers. This in turn also I believe leads to greater intelligence, which hopefully takes hold as the leading &quot;currency&quot; over monetary.
And in my opinion, greater intelligence for everyone (especially with that motivation to gain it as much as people have for gaining money - a drop-in replacement) reduces evil.
I find that intelligence of everyone reduces evil. A world of evil geniuses keep each-other in check. Moreso though, I just feel like true intelligence leads the mind towards non-evil. It&#39;s something I&#39;ve pondered for a long time - every path, including the most violent, they all &quot;make sense&quot;, but nowhere near as much as going as extremely non-violent, non-torturous, and so on.</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-868515550886768680 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=868515550886768680><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, July 24, 2021 5:30 PM">5:30 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I also believe technological solutions can prevent misuse of technology, automated/built-in. I wouldn&#39;t trust closed-source to properly handle that, I&#39;d trust open source to ensure and test and fix the problems.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-868519570397360168 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=868519570397360168><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, July 24, 2021 5:46 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-868519570397360168>7/24/2021 5:46 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><ul><li>I actually have a lot of sci-fi-esque ideas about &quot;<strong>reverse-lethal weapons</strong>&quot; and such, and the idea of proving to the world that even a &quot;war&quot; could be won equipped entirely with reverse- and non-lethal methods, up against a fully lethal one.</li></ul>In the event that that happens, I would believe/hope that the next war might involve even more reverse-lethality, due to the lack of death commited by the users of it from the last one. I&#39;d assume it may then become a rule of war, and even later down the line lead the ultimately us only ever resolving conflicts in safe simulated environments if needed.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-868531592912601088 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=868531592912601088><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, July 24, 2021 6:34 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-868531592912601088>7/24/2021 6:34 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><ul><li>Reverse-lethal being something as crazy as this(very sci-fi, requiring likely advanced autonomous tech, nanobots, extremely fast micro-construction, etc):</li><li>A projectile that, similar to a net-gun/sticky-glue, encompasses a target, but also immediately builds airways, repoistions the target safely, and then quickly builds an &quot;interface&quot; for them to communicate to the system itself.</li><li>The target can communicate with the system to ensure it handles special cases that the system didn&#39;t detect - say they are choking, poisoned, rigged to explode, uncomfortable, etc. They are basically given a little computer on the spot.</li><li>The system would also try to build a mobilizing structure in order to move the target out of harms way, in case they&#39;re in the middle of a street, heading underwater, etc. It may even allow mobility and vision to the target to manually do so, interfering if they appear to be fleeing, going hostile.</li></ul>...
This continually gets potentially advanced. The <strong>reverse</strong> lethal part of this would be that the system actively heals you, cures diseases even, acting as a mobile medbay of sorts. It may even defend itself, even against the intial &quot;shooter&quot;, if it detects they have intent to harm you in your immobile state.
It&#39;s of course on the level of sci-fi, but from anywhere <em>from</em> reality/plausible <em>to</em> this level of extreme, I think should be aimed for.</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Saturday, July 24, 2021 6:35 PM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=medical_symbol><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=⚕️ src=media-ose/2695-2E735.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-868532691077857341 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=868532691077857341><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/2c298b90ec031a6c231d3fe0841eff38-C0EC3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/ec74cfea40554984d75748b827287c7d-253B3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(11,150,2) title=pcuci>pcuci</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'867658585608945685')"> So did the DAO people. CC: <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="life_long_learner">@Paul P.</span> ;-)
Turns out they lost to the &quot;Vitalik be king&quot; crowd that forked Ethereum Classic </span> <span class=chatlog__reply-edited-timestamp title="Thursday, July 22, 2021 8:46 AM">(edited)</span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=cryptogothslowdao8302 data-user-id=756755259355037766>Paul Pham</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, July 24, 2021 6:38 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-868532691077857341>7/24/2021 6:38 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Well, the original DAO, &quot;The DAO&quot; was premature in hindsight, but laid the ground for modern technology and security best practices, and also the need for community values. The flawed implementation doesn&#39;t mean it&#39;s a bad idea, just incomplete in it&#39;s current formulation.
1hive and metagame are DAOs that currently crowdfund smaller proposals every week, and in general are focused more on culture creation and collaboration than crowdfunding. They still feel a little insular and self-referential in the digital realm, but are like spaceships compared to the horse-and-buggy of the original DAO.</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=thumbsup><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=👍 src=media-ose/1f44d-27259.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-868705467365490738 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=868705467365490738><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, July 25, 2021 6:05 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-868705467365490738>7/25/2021 6:05 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Looks like &quot;defensive publishing&quot; is the ultimate anti/preventing-patentability option for my license. I couldn&#39;t fathom telling a licensee to &quot;defensively publish&quot;, buut... I think I can say the Affirmer(Licensor / person who marks a work as this license) is allowed to defensively publish any subsequent works.
Now to see if there is a defensive publishing similar concept for preventing trademarks.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-868732425205866507 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=868732425205866507><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, July 25, 2021 7:52 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-868732425205866507>7/25/2021 7:52 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NY8Rv6PaXVI">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NY8Rv6PaXVI</a>
S p a c e L a w</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmGSJVG3mCRXVOP4yZrU1Dw><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Johnny Harris</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NY8Rv6PaXVI"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">The Space Border That Could Seal Us on Earth</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/NY8Rv6PaXVI width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-868732878618509313 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=868732878618509313><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, July 25, 2021 7:54 AM">7:54 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>On <em>another</em> sidenote i wonder if channels such as this etc could become a fix to the [<a href="https://www.vox.com/2018/10/23/18004478/hack-gap-explained">https://www.vox.com/2018/10/23/18004478/hack-gap-explained</a> &quot;hack gap&quot; ] / public discourse / narrative control etc</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Sunday, July 25, 2021 7:55 AM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=canned_food><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=🥫 src=media-ose/1f96b-34BE1.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div><div class=chatlog__reaction title=worm><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=🪱 src=media-ose/1fab1-A98B2.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-868883822295515147 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=868883822295515147><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, July 25, 2021 5:54 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-868883822295515147>7/25/2021 5:54 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Maybe we can clutter the atmosphere so densely that, once you reach this border, you enter a new phase of launch where you pull your ship through the debris using friction and its weight to thrust through... er.. at the detriment to the pieces that fly down to earth.</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-868883847834660904 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=868883847834660904><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, July 25, 2021 5:54 PM">5:54 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>---(License stuff again..)---
World is so greedy.. or search engines don&#39;t highlight ethical people/questions/debates enough(or maybe all the cool-thinking people who&#39;d progress our world have no internet access... grr).
Looking up &quot;anti-trademark&quot; is hard, it&#39;s all about stopping people from using your trademark, not stopping something from being trademarked. Common Law trademark apparently has a &quot;prior use&quot; similarity, but you have to be.. engaged in commerce with the mark? Whaa, no option for anti-monetary thinking? I wonder if accepting donations or pay-what-you-want counts as commerce, even if you make no money, for protection. Grr.
Glad I found &quot;defensive publishing&quot; for preventing patents though, and it seems like I can definitely enforce contracts via a license saying licensees can&#39;t enforce patent claims and such against other licensees nor licencors. Thaank you contract law.</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Sunday, July 25, 2021 5:54 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-868900118663938109 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=868900118663938109><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/ec74cfea40554984d75748b827287c7d-253B3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(11,150,2) title=pcuci data-user-id=345521804074549249>pcuci</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, July 25, 2021 6:58 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-868900118663938109>7/25/2021 6:58 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Contract law overrides missing local government laws when local governments didn&#39;t get to the specific thing you want to enforce
That means you can dream up any new thing in any new domain for which laws don&#39;t exist, and the judges will uphold the contract you got other people to sign, since there is nothing else to fall back on
Provided they are not corrupt judges ;-)</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Sunday, July 25, 2021 7:00 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-869079876114722896 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=869079876114722896><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, July 26, 2021 6:53 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-869079876114722896>7/26/2021 6:53 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Oh my dear goodness... why did I never realize this.......
Copyright expires... I think that means, lots of open source licenses... expire. Which means, all the faults I&#39;m finding for a PDM (Public Domain Mark) instead of dedicating it to public domain via CC0... it&#39;s just gonna happen.</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-869080282454720523 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=869080282454720523><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, July 26, 2021 6:54 AM">6:54 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I mean most templates for licenses literally have the &quot;Insert your copyright information here at the top&quot;. Blimey bloo&#39;y &#39;ell mate.</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Monday, July 26, 2021 6:54 AM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-869086363268575252 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=869086363268575252><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, July 26, 2021 7:18 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-869086363268575252>7/26/2021 7:18 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Correction: PDM is not the default Public Domain.. thing/state. It&#39;s the logo, from CC, for marking as such. Which if interested, has this comparison chart:
<a href="https://wiki.creativecommons.org/wiki/CC0_PDM_comparison_chart">https://wiki.creativecommons.org/wiki/CC0_PDM_comparison_chart</a>
However, I do think some of this kinda still applies in a way, as well as the non-waiving of other rights that CC0 explicitly gets into.
I still don&#39;t have a name for &quot;default/expiratory Public Domain&quot; then I guess, and I probably need to say &quot;U.S. Public Domain&quot; too.
Still, CC0 adds more protections to worldwide territories, which may not recognize Public Domain whatsoever, by saying partial invalidation doesn&#39;t invalidate the rest, and that its concepts should be held up to the maximum potential of the law in that territory. Fluctuating, but better than nothing!</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Monday, July 26, 2021 7:20 AM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://wiki.creativecommons.org/wiki/CC0_PDM_comparison_chart><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">CC0 PDM comparison chart</div></a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-869123927086075914 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=869123927086075914><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, July 26, 2021 9:48 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-869123927086075914>7/26/2021 9:48 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Just got a buunch of new (or refreshed) ideas, some real good considerations about my &quot;license quest&quot; hah. I want(ed?) super-permissive, though I respect copyleft and ethical source on a case-by-case basis... but I&#39;ve been given some good reason to consider things like leftcopy ( <a href="https://leftcopy.org/">https://leftcopy.org/</a> ) and certain other ethical-like licenses.
If I do decide to &quot;deny the big business world&quot;, sounds like some of these might say something like &quot;If you make this much money or more, you don&#39;t get the same rights...) I think. I otherwise thought, maybe if I only allow donationware and pay-what-you-want(including nothing).. it&#39;s something I want to do in the midst of maximum permissive, but hmm.
Ah well, goodnight for now! Lots to think about...</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://leftcopy.org/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Why Leftcopy?</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Social domain licensing for The People!</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-869326831214546975 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=869326831214546975><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, July 26, 2021 11:14 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-869326831214546975>7/26/2021 11:14 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Ahh, so this is something called &quot;Social Domain&quot; rather than Public Domain. Hmm, hmm</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-869865483216777216 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=869865483216777216><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, July 28, 2021 10:54 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-869865483216777216>7/28/2021 10:54 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Hey heyy, so I&#39;m getting closer to perhaps the CC0 upgrade that I want. Check the diff between CC0(1.0) and MD0(0.4) here: <a href="https://editor.mergely.com/9nbezPtc/">https://editor.mergely.com/9nbezPtc/</a>
The new section 5 letter &quot;a.&quot; is modified, the big change but basically using what CC uses on their &quot;policies&quot; page on their site regarding their Chapter Logo. I think... if they think those words are enough, and they are also proficient in legalese/license making... then I feel comfy using nearly the same thing.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-870189642106929173 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=870189642106929173><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, July 29, 2021 8:22 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-870189642106929173>7/29/2021 8:22 AM</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/c8Whely-8243A.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/c8Whely-8243A.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: c8Whely.png (269.87 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-870189778702831626 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=870189778702831626><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, July 29, 2021 8:23 AM">8:23 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>(A faction from Sid Meier&#39;s Alpha )</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-870231639991656518 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=870231639991656518><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, July 29, 2021 11:09 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-870231639991656518>7/29/2021 11:09 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>WHEW, okay um, side project... I found big ol list of intellectual property items in general and uh... so MD0 is still is its own thing.. but check out the greatly expanded <strong>MD9000</strong>:
<a href="https://editor.mergely.com/8mnOiLE7/">https://editor.mergely.com/8mnOiLE7/</a></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Thursday, July 29, 2021 11:24 AM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-870890222894850057 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=870890222894850057><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, July 31, 2021 6:46 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-870890222894850057>7/31/2021 6:46 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I&#39;m dealing with IRC and I really don&#39;t see the reasoning behind it. No chat history, weirdly places are always dead despite hundreds online, message &quot;nickserv&quot; a password that doesn&#39;t seem to allow hiding your input feels... ehhh</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-870890385990365184 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=870890385990365184><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, July 31, 2021 6:47 AM">6:47 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Oh and other randos knowing your IP address. I still vote for Discord and so on!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-870891427658358875 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=870891427658358875><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall>Nohbdy Ahtall</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'870890385990365184')"> Oh and other randos knowing your IP address. I still vote for Discord and so on! </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, July 31, 2021 6:51 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-870891427658358875>7/31/2021 6:51 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Did you check out &quot;matrix&quot; or whatever that alternative was?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-870891649574789140 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=870891649574789140><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, July 31, 2021 6:52 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-870891649574789140>7/31/2021 6:52 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I have not, I suppose I shoould... try it out right now! (Trying to contact the OpenBSD community, their Discord is... non-functioning... I think they have a matrix)</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Saturday, July 31, 2021 6:52 AM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-870891783062687794 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=870891783062687794><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, July 31, 2021 6:53 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-870891783062687794>7/31/2021 6:53 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>i&#39;ll grab the page (if i made one, may be a false memory)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-870892113276063806 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=870892113276063806><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, July 31, 2021 6:54 AM">6:54 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>nah matrix was the backbone i guess</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-870892146289418251 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=870892146289418251><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, July 31, 2021 6:54 AM">6:54 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matrix_(protocol)">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matrix_(protocol)</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matrix_(protocol)><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Matrix (protocol)</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Matrix (sometimes stylized as [matrix]) is an open standard and communication protocol for real-time communication. It aims to make real-time communication work seamlessly between different service providers, in the way that standard Simple Mail Transfer Protocol email currently does for store-and-forward email service, by allowing users with ac...</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/1200px-Matrix_logo.svg-11A90.png> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/1200px-Matrix_logo.svg-11A90.png alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-870892560023953428 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=870892560023953428><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, July 31, 2021 6:56 AM">6:56 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Element_(Software)">https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Element_(Software)</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Element_(Software)><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Element (Software)</div></a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-870892569264001047 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=870892569264001047><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, July 31, 2021 6:56 AM">6:56 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>that was it</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-870892747802935356 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=870892747802935356><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, July 31, 2021 6:56 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-870892747802935356>7/31/2021 6:56 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I have a feeling everyone&#39;s still going to refer to it as &quot;What&#39;s your matrix&quot; even if it&#39;s a backbone haha, whether they like it or not. Is there another word for &quot;X&#39;s [thing] that uses matrix&quot;?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-870892855143583754 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=870892855143583754><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, July 31, 2021 6:57 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-870892855143583754>7/31/2021 6:57 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>no idea, this is out of my area as of now</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-870892943987310623 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=870892943987310623><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, July 31, 2021 6:57 AM">6:57 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><em>granted i am an acronym / term used snob enthusiast/snob lol</em></span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-871181940022181969 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=871181940022181969><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, August 1, 2021 2:06 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-871181940022181969>8/1/2021 2:06 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Found this after someone sent it to me, and i like it:</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Sunday, August 1, 2021 2:06 AM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image0-9924F.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image0-9924F.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image0.png (119.11 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=laughing><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=😆 src=media-ose/1f606-BE94E.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-872644494967849021 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=872644494967849021><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, August 5, 2021 2:57 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-872644494967849021>8/5/2021 2:57 AM</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><a href=media-ose/EnDtpdEXIAEtI6R-2EBF7.png> <img class=chatlog__embed-generic-image src=media-ose/EnDtpdEXIAEtI6R-2EBF7.png alt="Embedded image" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=laughing><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=😆 src=media-ose/1f606-BE94E.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>3</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-872914031252492348 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=872914031252492348><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a67349d5204fa45d8d75ef87bae8aef7-C25C9.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=osrsupport6829 data-user-id=788915694997209123>-- osr-support --</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, August 5, 2021 8:48 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-872914031252492348>8/5/2021 8:48 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="ericlotze">@Eric Lotze</span> - nice catch (<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4gGWufoIYI)">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4gGWufoIYI)</a> and motivated me to finish the long over due extruder on the arbor <img
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material bill : 1.5k - 2k - assuming you have the equipment <img
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there was somewhere another crazy big portable extruder gun on youtube - fun stuff ...</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/addon_feedscrew_cut-EEAFC.jpg> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/addon_feedscrew_cut-EEAFC.jpg alt="Image attachment" title="Image: addon_feedscrew_cut.jpg (2.24 MB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHrFvnP1EEEZHNam_Nk_5rQ><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Action BOX</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4gGWufoIYI"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">DIY Plastic Injection Machine - Faster than 3D printing</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/l4gGWufoIYI width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-877380796581830656 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=877380796581830656><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, August 18, 2021 4:38 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-877380796581830656>8/18/2021 4:38 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Dunno if anyone needs this, but a program called &quot;ZeroTier&quot;, when installed on two devices, acts as a &quot;hole-punched&quot; network.
So... if you have any cool at-home network stuff, and you&#39;d love to access it remotely without exposing IP addresses or whatever... hazing ZeroTier lets you work with those devices as if you were at home on the same wifi network, in terms of IP access and such.</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-877381145933774848 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=877381145933774848><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, August 18, 2021 4:39 AM">4:39 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Really helped me as a beginner too, as I understood more easily how to connect from computer A to computer B on the same network at home due to the IP pattern, so this just kept that up and kinda side-stepped some obstacles.</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=thumbsup><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=👍 src=media-ose/1f44d-27259.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-877639922696216628 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=877639922696216628><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, August 18, 2021 9:47 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-877639922696216628>8/18/2021 9:47 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://www.engadget.com/intel-realsense-shutdown-211525552.html">https://www.engadget.com/intel-realsense-shutdown-211525552.html</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.engadget.com/intel-realsense-shutdown-211525552.html><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Intel is giving up on its AI-powered RealSense cameras | Engadget</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Intel is closing its RealSense camera business to focus on its chip manufacturing efforts, although the technology won&#39;t disappear..</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/bc7f5750-1f44-11e9-9ecc-c93ae241eb54-E7524> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/bc7f5750-1f44-11e9-9ecc-c93ae241eb54-E7524 alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-877640909930504283 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=877640909930504283><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, August 18, 2021 9:51 PM">9:51 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Will they sell the IP to some other company, or could they potentially Open Source it?
I would assume it&#39;s mainly software based, and just the dual cameras and IR emitter, right?
key word is <em>assume</em> though (edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-877645223990288384 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=877645223990288384><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, August 18, 2021 10:08 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-877645223990288384>8/18/2021 10:08 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>probably too much for them to bite off, trying to get everything to work better/faster/easier to program for/easier for the ML to figure out whats going on.
So upside is limited on the hardware side, and intel&#39;s shaking after ryzen, nobody expected them to get their stuff together after the bulldozer proccessors fx series</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-877645435295137842 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=877645435295137842><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, August 18, 2021 10:09 PM">10:09 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Plus tesla is making their own chips, so intel is starting to get into murky waters</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-877645470497931284 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=877645470497931284><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, August 18, 2021 10:09 PM">10:09 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>------</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-877645546502893658 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=877645546502893658><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, August 18, 2021 10:10 PM">10:10 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>you have geohotz trying to tame the next architecture too so cutting side projects makes sense</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-877648291846848585 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=877648291846848585><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, August 18, 2021 10:20 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-877648291846848585>8/18/2021 10:20 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I just hope it doesn&#39;t fall into that graveyard of &quot;things we developed, sold, then killed, but didn&#39;t sell the ip&quot;</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-877648421496967200 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=877648421496967200><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, August 18, 2021 10:21 PM">10:21 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I think i made a page on it somewhere, but Google actually <em>open sourced</em> their VR Painting software &quot;Tilt Brush&quot; rather than just killing it</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-877648432179847209 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=877648432179847209><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, August 18, 2021 10:21 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-877648432179847209>8/18/2021 10:21 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>&quot;you can&#39;t take the IP with you when you&#39;re dead&quot;</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-877648443017924638 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=877648443017924638><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, August 18, 2021 10:21 PM">10:21 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>if only</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-877648456318091315 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=877648456318091315><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, August 18, 2021 10:21 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-877648456318091315>8/18/2021 10:21 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Granted that was only software</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-877648619606528021 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=877648619606528021><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, August 18, 2021 10:22 PM">10:22 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>but i would *assume * a lot of the &quot;secret sauce&quot; is in how they turn the stereoscopic cameras + ir emitter into a depth map and how they send that data around etc</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-877668000470290493 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=877668000470290493><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/2-ADBB4.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=paulum3036 data-user-id=860212895501778954>Paulum</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, August 18, 2021 11:39 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-877668000470290493>8/18/2021 11:39 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://youtu.be/Fpqa5mcHoTE">https://youtu.be/Fpqa5mcHoTE</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfYfK0tzHZTpNFrc_NDKfTA><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Paul McWhorter</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fpqa5mcHoTE"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">AI for Everyone LESSON 7: HOMEWORK SOLUTION, Creating Checkerboard ...</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/Fpqa5mcHoTE width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-877668142925623346 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=877668142925623346><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, August 18, 2021 11:39 PM">11:39 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>If you want will get a link for a man that explains ai in an understandable way. With or without Nvidia Jetson nano. Surprise on me it&#39;s above<img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-877695211139104818 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=877695211139104818><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, August 19, 2021 1:27 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-877695211139104818>8/19/2021 1:27 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I think terminology needs to become a norm for this kind of thinking. I so far like to call it &quot;Last Resort&quot; open source licensing for the idea of failure of the company/project/etc results in the code being released.
I also like the idea of &quot;we&#39;ve made enough money now&quot; open source planning hah, kinda like if I made a video game... if it was proprietary and I ended up making &quot;a lot of money&quot; I&#39;d switch over to donations-only and release the source code.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-880655941547221033 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880655941547221033><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 5:32 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-880655941547221033>8/27/2021 5:32 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Some spam, was originally on this Plug-In Hybrid Minivan, gradually turned into me looking into &quot;Open Pilot&quot; :</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-880655986166202448 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880655986166202448><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 5:32 AM">5:32 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://www.treehugger.com/life-plug-pacifica-hybrid-minivan-five-month-update-4857245">https://www.treehugger.com/life-plug-pacifica-hybrid-minivan-five-month-update-4857245</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.treehugger.com/life-plug-pacifica-hybrid-minivan-five-month-update-4857245><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Life With a Plug-In Pacifica Hybrid Minivan: Five Month Update</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">We already know the fuel economy is good. But it saves money in other ways too...</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/__opt__aboutcom__coeus__resources__content-85E98.png> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/__opt__aboutcom__coeus__resources__content-85E98.png alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-880656027060670474 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880656027060670474><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 5:32 AM">5:32 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://www.pacificaforums.com/threads/question-about-auto-stop-start-system.49987/">https://www.pacificaforums.com/threads/question-about-auto-stop-start-system.49987/</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(24,88,134,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.pacificaforums.com/threads/question-about-auto-stop-start-system.49987/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Question about auto stop/start system</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">I&#39;ve gone back and read several old discussion threads about the stop/start system before I developed a problem, mainly because I nether wanted nor trusted it. At about 36K miles I got the idiot light and error message telling me to get it serviced (maybe 2 weeks/200 miles ago). 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I thought that I would share my experience with installing Open Pilot in my 2017 Pacifica Hybrid. I&#39;ve been intrigued by self-driving technology and always hoped the standard lane keep assist (LKAS) would have been better in my Pacifica. I&#39;ve been doing some research on the...</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/pacificaforums_com_profile-60DD5.png> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/pacificaforums_com_profile-60DD5.png alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-880656114780360734 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880656114780360734><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 5:32 AM">5:32 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Openpilot">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Openpilot</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Openpilot><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Openpilot</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">openpilot is an open source, semi-automated driving system developed by comma.ai. openpilot operates as a replacement for OEM Advanced driver-assistance systems with the objective of improving visual perception and electromechanical actuator control. It allows users to modify their existing car with increased computing power, enhanced sensors, a...</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/1200px-Comma_Two_Running_Openpilot-82DFF.jpg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/1200px-Comma_Two_Running_Openpilot-82DFF.jpg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-880656149358198824 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880656149358198824><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 5:33 AM">5:33 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Hotz#comma.aib">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Hotz#comma.aib</a></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-880656200453218365 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880656200453218365><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 5:33 AM">5:33 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://www.pacificaforums.com/threads/preventing-the-random-shutoff-testing-the-12v-batteries.49905/">https://www.pacificaforums.com/threads/preventing-the-random-shutoff-testing-the-12v-batteries.49905/</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(24,88,134,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.pacificaforums.com/threads/preventing-the-random-shutoff-testing-the-12v-batteries.49905/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Preventing the random shutoff - Testing the 12V Batteries</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">As a new pacific owner, I&#39;ve run through the forum to review issues, and fixes. One of the more common causes of issues is a dying 12V battery, which causes a dead pacifica at the worst time. I&#39;m trying to think of a preventative maintenance or testing method for the home user. Any ideas...</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/pacificaforums_com_profile-60DD5.png> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/pacificaforums_com_profile-60DD5.png alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-880656287514390539 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880656287514390539><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 5:33 AM">5:33 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://electrek.co/2017/04/25/waymo-500-self-driving-pacifica-hybrid-minivans-rides-open-to-public/">https://electrek.co/2017/04/25/waymo-500-self-driving-pacifica-hybrid-minivans-rides-open-to-public/</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href="https://electrek.co/author/fredericclambert/"><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Fred Lambert</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://electrek.co/2017/04/25/waymo-500-self-driving-pacifica-hybrid-minivans-rides-open-to-public/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Waymo deploys 500 self-driving Pacifica hybrid minivans in Phoenix ...</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">We reported just last week that by adding&#160;300 Chevy Bolt EV to its self-driving test fleet,&#160;GM was on its way to having the biggest captive self-driving test fleet in the world, but Waymo just crushed that dream today. Waymo, formerly Google’s self-driving effort and now an official Alphabet company, announced that it is deploying 500 […]</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/screen-shot-2017-04-25-at-7-13-34-am-02771.png> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/screen-shot-2017-04-25-at-7-13-34-am-02771.png alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-880656370075070484 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880656370075070484><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 5:34 AM">5:34 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMcdMoa9wnc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMcdMoa9wnc</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjnAxBmD2i1X232yG1iZ3uQ><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Logan LeGrand</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMcdMoa9wnc"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">A History of Comma.ai</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/OMcdMoa9wnc width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-880656409052717126 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880656409052717126><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 5:34 AM">5:34 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://www.youtube.com/c/LoganLeGrand/videos">https://www.youtube.com/c/LoganLeGrand/videos</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.youtube.com/c/LoganLeGrand/videos><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Logan LeGrand</div></a></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/AKedOLQ42lkZ1Ta2QQZJdVJ_NekRjfKQU0AF6awX14-8C729> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/AKedOLQ42lkZ1Ta2QQZJdVJ_NekRjfKQU0AF6awX14-8C729 alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-880656894631510076 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880656894631510076><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 5:36 AM">5:36 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><strong>The Data Use / (Minor) Security Risk is my main concern</strong>
<a href="https://comma.ai/prime">https://comma.ai/prime</a>
(Although <em>it is needed for training</em> )</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(11,14,14,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://comma.ai/prime><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">comma.ai</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Make driving chill. Upgrade your car with a comma three. comma is building the Android for cars. We have an open source driver assistance system that runs on most modern cars.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-880656942765338654 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880656942765338654><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 5:36 AM">5:36 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>odd stuff</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-880657144960126976 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880657144960126976><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 5:37 AM">5:37 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I know the current minivan my family has has a <em>pile</em> of gears, it&#39;s like <em>trying</em> to be a CVT, but isn&#39;t so dangerously shifts in the middle of intersections after a stoplight etc</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-880657229420843028 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880657229420843028><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 5:37 AM">5:37 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I think there is a class action lawsuit on that model of Honda Odyssey IIRC</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-880657369850339339 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880657369850339339><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 5:37 AM">5:37 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>If this could be a workaround for their BS firmware too that would be neat as well !</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-880657704308314182 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880657704308314182><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 5:39 AM">5:39 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>What systems it interferes with / what happens if it goes down etc are also something i would want to look into (ie does it connect to / impact airbags, can the &quot;stock&quot; system override it or vice versa, does it void warrenties / make insurance difficult, etc)
(Also stumbled upon these as a potential solution to that mini-van&#39;s battery issue: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VRLA_battery">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VRLA_battery</a> , may be neat for other applications)</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 5:43 AM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-880657994126348298 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880657994126348298><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 5:40 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-880657994126348298>8/27/2021 5:40 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>his blog is a gold mine too</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-880658338935894067 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880658338935894067><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 5:41 AM">5:41 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>always dream of retrofitting old classic cars with modern parts/controllers and slapping a comma 2 in it for lane keeping</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-880658560684531773 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880658560684531773><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 5:42 AM">5:42 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>rolling in a perfectly restored classic, with lane keeping/braking assist/crash avoidance</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-880658807167000578 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880658807167000578><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 5:43 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-880658807167000578>8/27/2021 5:43 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I&#39;m still trying to figure out the ultimate car in my mind</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-880658999069012018 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880658999069012018><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 5:44 AM">5:44 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>That Plug in hybrid minivan is pretty close, <em>especially</em> with that OS driver assist stuff, <em>but</em> it doesn&#39;t have flex fuel etc and i am looking into all that</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-880659031306428438 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880659031306428438><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 5:44 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-880659031306428438>8/27/2021 5:44 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>1999 stewart and stevenson with a 75kwh tesla pack, and a tesla motor on each drive axle</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-880659095533801483 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880659095533801483><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 5:44 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-880659095533801483>8/27/2021 5:44 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>All the papers on DME discuss using it in compression ignition engines</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 5:45 AM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-880659140349939752 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880659140349939752><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 5:45 AM">5:45 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>But those are annoying to regulate NOx on</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-880659355253489734 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880659355253489734><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 5:45 AM">5:45 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Flex Fuel (x&lt;=E-85) is nice, i think some brazillian cars can run on pure ethanol (e-100), but it is kind of nasty to work with</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-880659434647470151 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880659434647470151><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 5:46 AM">5:46 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I think the issue is moreso absorbed water <em>in</em> the ethanol?</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-880659552792608820 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880659552792608820><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 5:46 AM">5:46 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>&quot;Autogas&quot; (Propane or LPG) is supposedly pretty common in Europe, and <em>should</em> behave similarly to DME</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-880659779196964896 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880659779196964896><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 5:47 AM">5:47 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autogas">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autogas</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autogas><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Autogas</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Autogas is the common name for liquefied petroleum gas (LPG) when it is used as a fuel in internal combustion engines in vehicles as well as in stationary applications such as generators. It is a mixture of propane and butane.
Autogas is widely used as a &quot;green&quot; fuel, as its use reduces CO2 exhaust emissions by around 15% compared to petrol. One...</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/1200px-Autogas_station-4F490.jpg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/1200px-Autogas_station-4F490.jpg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-880660803529887744 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880660803529887744><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 5:51 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-880660803529887744>8/27/2021 5:51 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>what are your constraints for an &quot;ultimate vehicle&quot;??</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-880660812149162006 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880660812149162006><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 5:51 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-880660812149162006>8/27/2021 5:51 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Also ethanol/methanol (i am unsure on DME) are used as octane boosters/antiknock agents/whatever, instead of Tetraethyl lead, as well as the biofuel aspect, so they would like more forced induction / different engine designs even so that&#39;s also an issue</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-880661638003429386 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880661638003429386><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=ownerofown>OwnerOfOwn</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'880660803529887744')"> what are your constraints for an &quot;ultimate vehicle&quot;?? </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 5:54 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-880661638003429386>8/27/2021 5:54 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><ul><li>PZEV Rating (<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partial_zero-emissions_vehicle">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partial_zero-emissions_vehicle</a> )</li><li>As good efficiency as possible</li><li>Plug in hybrid + as good regenerative breaking as possible</li><li>Capable of using some sort of biofuel in it&#39;s pure form (also maybe liquid + gaseous fuel)</li><li>Just kind of &quot;drop in replacement&quot; for a similar fossil fuel car</li><li>Vehicle-to-Grid Capable</li><li>Driver Assist Stuff</li></ul></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-880662160051695716 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880662160051695716><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 5:57 AM">5:57 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I am also unironically a fan of the mini-van format, it can be a person hauler, fold down all the back (and maybe even front passenger) seats a small cargo vehicle, and some can tow a small amount of stuff</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-880662212040093716 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880662212040093716><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 5:57 AM">5:57 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Granted all of this is in the context of Car dependent USA too</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-880662281690705970 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880662281690705970><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 5:57 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-880662281690705970>8/27/2021 5:57 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Yeah, I enjoy SUV&#39;s for the higher ground clearance, but that&#39;s a north american thing as well</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-880662377660563476 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880662377660563476><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze>Eric Lotze</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'880661638003429386')"> <ul><li>PZEV Rating (<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partial_zero-emissions_vehicle">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partial_zero-emissions_vehicle</a> )</li><li>As good efficiency as possible</li><li>Plug in hybrid + as good regenerative breaking as possible</li><li>Capable of using some sort of biofuel in it&#39;s pure form (also maybe liquid + gaseous fuel)</li><li>Just kind of &quot;drop in replacement&quot; for a similar fossil fuel car</li><li>Vehicle-to-Grid Capable</li><li>Driver Assist Stuff</li></ul> </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 5:57 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-880662377660563476>8/27/2021 5:57 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>these are all great</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-880662481628954635 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880662481628954635><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 5:58 AM">5:58 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I really like the cybertruck, unironically.</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-880662530127699998 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880662530127699998><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 5:58 AM">5:58 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>throwing a couple different project generators in the bed</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-880662614089297930 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880662614089297930><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 5:58 AM">5:58 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>could have a hydrogen electrolysis generator, a small small diesel generator</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 6:00 AM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-880662656846032957 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880662656846032957><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 5:58 AM">5:58 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>and then a small flex fuel generator</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-880662707655827486 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880662707655827486><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 5:59 AM">5:59 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>can recharge by draining motor oil out of cars broken down on the road ( could be my pessimism/apocalypse visions showing here)</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 6:01 AM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-880662791478976522 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880662791478976522><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 5:59 AM">5:59 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>or can recharge with solar powered electrolysis, run that in the flex fuel engine,</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-880662877973930054 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880662877973930054><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 5:59 AM">5:59 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>could honestly have one side of a generator coil a diesel engine and the other side a flex fuel engine</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-880662934739640340 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880662934739640340><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 6:00 AM">6:00 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>neatly nested in the back bed, for easy range upgrades</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-880663603735326741 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880663603735326741><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 6:02 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-880663603735326741>8/27/2021 6:02 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>It&#39;s probably all ECU tuning (although hydrogen entitlement may be a spooky aspect), but i wonder if an autogas system could also work on syngas)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-880663676804280321 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880663676804280321><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 6:03 AM">6:03 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I think there was an OS board (or even ECU) for ecu tuning</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-880663912574488596 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880663912574488596><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze>Eric Lotze</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'880663603735326741')"> It&#39;s probably all ECU tuning (although hydrogen entitlement may be a spooky aspect), but i wonder if an autogas system could also work on syngas) </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 6:03 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-880663912574488596>8/27/2021 6:03 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I was even considering starting one, but americans like to sue people</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-880663961123565618 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880663961123565618><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 6:04 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-880663961123565618>8/27/2021 6:04 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://speeduino.com/home/">https://speeduino.com/home/</a></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-880663990903136286 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880663990903136286><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 6:04 AM">6:04 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I knew of that one</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-880664031780831272 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880664031780831272><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 6:04 AM">6:04 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>just found two others in searching for it!</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 6:04 AM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-880664037862547458 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880664037862547458><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 6:04 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-880664037862547458>8/27/2021 6:04 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>it&#39;s 100% engine management, and I&#39;m excited to see how machine learning pushes gas engines to their limits</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-880664080619274311 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880664080619274311><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 6:04 AM">6:04 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>that&#39;s awesome</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-880664136902672444 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880664136902672444><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 6:04 AM">6:04 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I know people have been slapping chips on normal ECU&#39;s forever for tuning</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-880664154619396096 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880664154619396096><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 6:04 AM">6:04 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>hondata and such</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-880664290128957450 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880664290128957450><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 6:05 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-880664290128957450>8/27/2021 6:05 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://rusefi.com/">https://rusefi.com/</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://rusefi.com/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">rusEFI</div></a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-880664436380139531 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880664436380139531><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 6:06 AM">6:06 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Another issue though is accessibility of all this, lots of sensors + chips etc which is a bit of an issue</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-880665052254973962 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880665052254973962><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze>Eric Lotze</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'880664436380139531')"> Another issue though is accessibility of all this, lots of sensors + chips etc which is a bit of an issue </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 6:08 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-880665052254973962>8/27/2021 6:08 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>wiring harnesses</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-880665114079006760 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880665114079006760><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 6:08 AM">6:08 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>tesla has struggled with 12volt legacy hardware</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-880665176947445861 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880665176947445861><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 6:09 AM">6:09 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>higher voltage lower amperage==smaller/lighter wires</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-880665306798882836 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880665306798882836><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 6:09 AM">6:09 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>almost every component in vehicles has hit economies of scale for 12v</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-880665434129592340 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880665434129592340><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 6:10 AM">6:10 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>my first step in an OS engine management system would be going to 48 volts, and building those sensors/actuators/components from scratch</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-880665569010003978 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880665569010003978><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 6:10 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-880665569010003978>8/27/2021 6:10 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I know you need Oxygen Sensors (and maybe temp) for basic catalytic converter function, you need pressure/temperature for forced induction, probably need chemical sensors for flex fuel (or if using more fuels etc to tell what is in use)
Also all sorts of pressure stuff</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 6:10 AM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-880665770344996905 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880665770344996905><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=ownerofown>OwnerOfOwn</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'880665176947445861')"> higher voltage lower amperage==smaller/lighter wires </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 6:11 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-880665770344996905>8/27/2021 6:11 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>THis is why EU grid (or similar) ones can use thinner wires in buildings right vs USA/North American 120v ?</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=thumbsup><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=👍 src=media-ose/1f44d-27259.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-880665782240043088 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880665782240043088><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 6:11 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-880665782240043088>8/27/2021 6:11 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>not to mention the suite of sensors checking postitions of components during operations &quot;timing sensor&quot; category has a lot of parts deep in the engine, but those are also where the most gains can be made with high-fidelity data</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 6:12 AM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-880665903434444840 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880665903434444840><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze>Eric Lotze</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'880665770344996905')"> THis is why EU grid (or similar) ones can use thinner wires in buildings right vs USA/North American 120v ? </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 6:11 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-880665903434444840>8/27/2021 6:11 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Something like that, EU might run 3 phase all the time when we stick to 2 phases</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-880666425495265280 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880666425495265280><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 6:13 AM">6:13 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>also cheaper at scale to go higher in voltage for your sensor suites</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-880666577433927730 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880666577433927730><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 6:14 AM">6:14 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>because you are spending less money on conductors in your harnesses/plus some weight savings for performance/efficiency</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-880666792744349717 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880666792744349717><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=ownerofown>OwnerOfOwn</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'880666425495265280')"> also cheaper at scale to go higher in voltage for your sensor suites </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 6:15 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-880666792744349717>8/27/2021 6:15 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>emphasis on &quot;at scale&quot; 48v components don&#39;t exist</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-880853584512700457 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880853584512700457><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/2-ADBB4.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=ownerofown>OwnerOfOwn</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'880665434129592340')"> my first step in an OS engine management system would be going to 48 volts, and building those sensors/actuators/components from scratch </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=paulum3036 data-user-id=860212895501778954>Paulum</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 6:37 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-880853584512700457>8/27/2021 6:37 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Another approach is multiplexing data. That is where can use is used. There are ways to use other voltages and mixed voltages with buck/boost devices that are getting quite inexpensive as power semiconductors are not to proprietary.... Besides experimenting with this stuff can be exciting,<img
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src="media-ose/1f4a5-28689.svg"> great discussion enjoy the ideas.</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-880853782248964187 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880853782248964187><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 6:38 PM">6:38 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Can use was supposed to be can-bus....</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-880854287402537010 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880854287402537010><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/2-ADBB4.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=ownerofown>OwnerOfOwn</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'880665782240043088')"> not to mention the suite of sensors checking postitions of components during operations &quot;timing sensor&quot; category has a lot of parts deep in the engine, but those are also where the most gains can be made with high-fidelity data </span> <span class=chatlog__reply-edited-timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 6:12 AM">(edited)</span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=paulum3036 data-user-id=860212895501778954>Paulum</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 6:40 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-880854287402537010>8/27/2021 6:40 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>On lots of vehicles they are just bolt on replacement parts. Probably even more so on newer vehicles.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-880855143153795102 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880855143153795102><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/2-ADBB4.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=ownerofown>OwnerOfOwn</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'880666792744349717')"> emphasis on &quot;at scale&quot; 48v components don&#39;t exist </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=paulum3036 data-user-id=860212895501778954>Paulum</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 6:43 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-880855143153795102>8/27/2021 6:43 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>A while back was reading about 1300v system. I think the motors were lower voltage just played games with connections so that charging could be done quickly. High voltage low amperage fast charge then use lower voltage. Pretty interesting design.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-880855144022040596 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880855144022040596><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/def5e0a7ff07e73d477a87df10a3dc4f-BFBB1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(153,45,34) title=Arcane#7800 data-user-id=437808476106784770>Arcane</span> <span class=chatlog__author-tag>BOT</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 6:43 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-880855144022040596>8/27/2021 6:43 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="paulum3036">@Paulum</span> has reached level <strong>2</strong>. GG!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-880856047991005254 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880856047991005254><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/2-ADBB4.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=ownerofown>OwnerOfOwn</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'880665306798882836')"> almost every component in vehicles has hit economies of scale for 12v </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=paulum3036 data-user-id=860212895501778954>Paulum</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 6:47 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-880856047991005254>8/27/2021 6:47 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Just use low voltage control and information systems to control higher power devices. Machine tools use low voltage then contactors or now inverters to power the large drive.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-880902112437997638 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880902112437997638><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/623f714c14c45bc7b732481f7021d307-E9312.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=yfgame data-user-id=714607126927900673>yfgame</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 9:50 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-880902112437997638>8/27/2021 9:50 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Hey <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="ericlotze">@Eric Lotze</span> !
I saw you on the STR server!</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-880902117651537980 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880902117651537980><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 9:50 PM">9:50 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Hi!</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-880902135091458068 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880902135091458068><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 9:50 PM">9:50 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-880909744833974332 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880909744833974332><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/2-ADBB4.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=ownerofown>OwnerOfOwn</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'880665903434444840')"> Something like that, EU might run 3 phase all the time when we stick to 2 phases </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=paulum3036 data-user-id=860212895501778954>Paulum</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 10:20 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-880909744833974332>8/27/2021 10:20 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>US uses 3 phase for industrial and distribution systems. Where US is different is in our 1<strong>volt and 2</strong> volt legs. US 220 is between any 2 legs of 3 phase generation ans 110 is 1 leg to ground or neutral leg. That is why you always use 2 pole breaker on 220 in US. If only 1 leg shut down the other leg is still 110 volts to ground. Play with transformers and center taps to accomplish this in a grid that send original generated 3 legs different ways. Most of Europe is this way too only their 220 is hot leg to neutral or ground. Across 2 legs they get around 360 in some systems..... hope I didn&#39;t lose anybody with that.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-880911598896685117 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880911598896685117><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/623f714c14c45bc7b732481f7021d307-E9312.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/2-ADBB4.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=paulum3036>Paulum</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'880909744833974332')"> US uses 3 phase for industrial and distribution systems. Where US is different is in our 1<strong>volt and 2</strong> volt legs. US 220 is between any 2 legs of 3 phase generation ans 110 is 1 leg to ground or neutral leg. That is why you always use 2 pole breaker on 220 in US. If only 1 leg shut down the other leg is still 110 volts to ground. Play with transformers and center taps to accomplish this in a grid that send original generated 3 legs different ways. Most of Europe is this way too only their 220 is hot leg to neutral or ground. Across 2 legs they get around 360 in some systems..... hope I didn&#39;t lose anybody with that. </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=yfgame data-user-id=714607126927900673>yfgame</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 10:28 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-880911598896685117>8/27/2021 10:28 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Yep it is mostly good
Except it is 208 between two legs and not 220</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-880911910789341264 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880911910789341264><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 10:29 PM">10:29 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>We have 120 officially not 110 ( of course it depends where you are for exact number)
And remember 3 phase is not 90 degrees apart but 120 degrees</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-880911991101861888 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880911991101861888><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 10:29 PM">10:29 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>So two phases is not 240 but 208 instead</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-880919884173807726 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880919884173807726><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/2-ADBB4.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=paulum3036 data-user-id=860212895501778954>Paulum</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 11:01 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-880919884173807726>8/27/2021 11:01 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>On some distribution systems the use a single standard 3 phase transformer which gives 208 which is the bottom side tolerance of voltage range in US. I live in a rural area and even 10 miles from substation my voltage is usually 250 volts. If there is a lot of loads on the leg it will be a little lower. As a side note if you want to use 3 phase solid state inverters. If you delivered voltage is 220 nothing needed if it is more than +-10 % away from that you should look at using a buck/boost transformer to get it in that +-10% window. This is not always made clear on those devices. Same thing holds true in Europe as the distribution grids are not always 220 volts. If you have been in a machine shop running NC, CNC, DNC, those machines are usually wired to a 3 phase buck/boost so they are in specification. Power systems are fun after you have damaged enough stuff in ignorance to find out the details.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-880920361967976469 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880920361967976469><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 11:03 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-880920361967976469>8/27/2021 11:03 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I know when I look for land for my forever home I want a 3 phase power line running above, which isn&#39;t hard to find in rural US. but having 3 phase at the pole is not a given for all americans. they&#39;ll have a 200 amp service max, but in rural places you can easily get a few hundred more amps</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-880920448366436392 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880920448366436392><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 11:03 PM">11:03 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>208 is the rural connection</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-880920471472865311 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880920471472865311><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 11:03 PM">11:03 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>at some crazy crazy amperage</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-880920682878349362 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880920682878349362><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/2-ADBB4.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=paulum3036 data-user-id=860212895501778954>Paulum</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 11:04 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-880920682878349362>8/27/2021 11:04 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>In single phase distributions they use center tap transformers with the hot distribution going to center tap then they are 180&#176; out of phase. And power companies can buy transformers with moveable straps so the can adjust those voltages.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-880920709742854205 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880920709742854205><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/2-ADBB4.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=paulum3036>Paulum</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'880919884173807726')"> On some distribution systems the use a single standard 3 phase transformer which gives 208 which is the bottom side tolerance of voltage range in US. I live in a rural area and even 10 miles from substation my voltage is usually 250 volts. If there is a lot of loads on the leg it will be a little lower. As a side note if you want to use 3 phase solid state inverters. If you delivered voltage is 220 nothing needed if it is more than +-10 % away from that you should look at using a buck/boost transformer to get it in that +-10% window. This is not always made clear on those devices. Same thing holds true in Europe as the distribution grids are not always 220 volts. If you have been in a machine shop running NC, CNC, DNC, those machines are usually wired to a 3 phase buck/boost so they are in specification. Power systems are fun after you have damaged enough stuff in ignorance to find out the details. </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 11:04 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-880920709742854205>8/27/2021 11:04 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>thank you for sharing a ton of responses, running through them now. interested in catching up on all this</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-880921695811149914 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880921695811149914><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/2-ADBB4.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=paulum3036 data-user-id=860212895501778954>Paulum</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 11:08 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-880921695811149914>8/27/2021 11:08 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I refer to this as private information. Had the privilege of having a hold voltage distribution system Gorman for a friend. Took a lot of blanks out of picture for me at least one book that sort of goes into this. Will be happy to give title if you want. Glad you can follow along<img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-880922988424355841 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880922988424355841><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 11:13 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-880922988424355841>8/27/2021 11:13 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I&#39;ve had my autocorrect turned off for years, one too many awkward texts to female partners made me ditch it for good</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-880923075745562664 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880923075745562664><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/2-ADBB4.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=paulum3036 data-user-id=860212895501778954>Paulum</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 11:13 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-880923075745562664>8/27/2021 11:13 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I am very rural on a REA system hear at 250volts. Was in an REA system at the place I lived and it was 208 volts. As long as it is more are less 200-255 federal regulations are happy. The power company sells more power at higher voltage. Or where I am here there are air-conditioning and irrigation loads.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-880923308219047987 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880923308219047987><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/2-ADBB4.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=paulum3036>Paulum</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'880921695811149914')"> I refer to this as private information. Had the privilege of having a hold voltage distribution system Gorman for a friend. Took a lot of blanks out of picture for me at least one book that sort of goes into this. Will be happy to give title if you want. Glad you can follow along<img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-880923715767001188 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880923715767001188><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/2-ADBB4.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=paulum3036 data-user-id=860212895501778954>Paulum</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 11:16 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-880923715767001188>8/27/2021 11:16 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>May do that if I remember it is nice when not that good at .... I think that should have been an old friend that was a line foreman for the high tension primary stuff.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-880923782355771412 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880923782355771412><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 11:16 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-880923782355771412>8/27/2021 11:16 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I know my way around wiring fairly well, and have felt comfortable speccing out wiring, over distance for certain amperage, say 60 amp service 40 ft from the breaker</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-880923973318221824 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880923973318221824><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/2-ADBB4.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=paulum3036>Paulum</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'880923715767001188')"> May do that if I remember it is nice when not that good at .... I think that should have been an old friend that was a line foreman for the high tension primary stuff. </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 11:17 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-880923973318221824>8/27/2021 11:17 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>yeah I spoke to an electrician when he was reworking the building power at my last job, and he told me rural is 208, excited to hear it can fluctuate though</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-880924057598558209 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880924057598558209><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 11:17 PM">11:17 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>208 minimum for sure, which would coincide with +-10%</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 11:17 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-880924418963034153 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880924418963034153><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/2-ADBB4.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=paulum3036>Paulum</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'880854287402537010')"> On lots of vehicles they are just bolt on replacement parts. Probably even more so on newer vehicles. </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 11:19 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-880924418963034153>8/27/2021 11:19 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>primarily concerned about pulling apart the engine to retrofit a better sensor suite, they are bolt on, but could turn a 3 hour plug and play job into a 3 day retrofitting job</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-880924493990752327 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880924493990752327><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/2-ADBB4.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=paulum3036>Paulum</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'880855143153795102')"> A while back was reading about 1300v system. I think the motors were lower voltage just played games with connections so that charging could be done quickly. High voltage low amperage fast charge then use lower voltage. Pretty interesting design. </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 11:19 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-880924493990752327>8/27/2021 11:19 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>was this in the EV space?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-880924656603906098 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880924656603906098><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/2-ADBB4.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=paulum3036 data-user-id=860212895501778954>Paulum</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 11:20 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-880924656603906098>8/27/2021 11:20 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>The book is a sams publication ISBN 0-672-22636-7 Transformers and Motors by George Patrick Shultz.... The way I pick up on some of this is travelling and being a nerd about infrastructure...</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-880924815337357312 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880924815337357312><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/2-ADBB4.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=paulum3036>Paulum</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'880856047991005254')"> Just use low voltage control and information systems to control higher power devices. Machine tools use low voltage then contactors or now inverters to power the large drive. </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 11:20 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-880924815337357312>8/27/2021 11:20 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I agree, there will be healthy amounts of relays, it&#39;s just a matter of smaller gauge wiring with &quot;higher&quot; low voltage stuff, of course the EV battery will be at 400-800v, but there is a ton of weight to be saved with higher voltage sensors, ie even smaller wires, like most industrial control systems are run on 48v</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-880924882274242560 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880924882274242560><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/2-ADBB4.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=paulum3036>Paulum</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'880924656603906098')"> The book is a sams publication ISBN 0-672-22636-7 Transformers and Motors by George Patrick Shultz.... The way I pick up on some of this is travelling and being a nerd about infrastructure... </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 11:20 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-880924882274242560>8/27/2021 11:20 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>best nerds there are</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-880925168510324807 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880925168510324807><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/2-ADBB4.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=paulum3036 data-user-id=860212895501778954>Paulum</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 11:22 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-880925168510324807>8/27/2021 11:22 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Be happy to help from static to rotary converter construction that is quite cheap on a diy. Though I feel like I died and went heaven with 3 phase inverters.... Not listening to the rotary converters adding to the noise.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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If you like the content you&#39;re seeing, please consider visiting our website and clicking &quot;Support ...</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/AKedOLRsoJP4-7J1q2Y2l1nrJ4-oD8gRvwH9tMFSZh-247FF> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/AKedOLRsoJP4-7J1q2Y2l1nrJ4-oD8gRvwH9tMFSZh-247FF alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-880925568965681152 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880925568965681152><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 11:23 PM">11:23 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I&#39;m currently looking for the video where sandy munro talks about 12v systems and what their downfalls are for automotive use, I watch a lot of his videos, he had a career at ford, before starting his own consulting firm for proccess changes. Big OEMs will come to him to hear what he has to say about production optimization and design changes</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-880925754316189766 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880925754316189766><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 11:24 PM">11:24 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://youtu.be/ZRkm6-bBk4U">https://youtu.be/ZRkm6-bBk4U</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCj--iMtToRO_cGG_fpmP5XQ><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Munro Live</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRkm6-bBk4U"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Comparing Tesla, Ford, &amp; VW&#39;s Electrical Architectures</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/ZRkm6-bBk4U width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-880925765854695434 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880925765854695434><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 11:24 PM">11:24 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>yes, found it</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-880925988924555286 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880925988924555286><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 11:25 PM">11:25 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>he compares all 3 vehicles and their entire electrical systems, counting # of can busses, ECUS, size of wiring, where they step away from 12v to save space/weight/add efficiency</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-880926062584930356 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880926062584930356><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 11:25 PM">11:25 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/unknown-4A461.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/unknown-4A461.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: unknown.png (441.59 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-880926116909576263 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880926116909576263><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 11:25 PM">11:25 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/unknown-796E9.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/unknown-796E9.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: unknown.png (243.32 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-880926218042626130 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880926218042626130><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 11:26 PM">11:26 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/unknown-2D1C7.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/unknown-2D1C7.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: unknown.png (413.88 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-880926417913790555 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880926417913790555><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 11:27 PM">11:27 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>if I were to OS automotive electronics, I would be going as close to tesla&#39;s systems as possible, they are the leanest by what this video shows</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-880926601750126643 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880926601750126643><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 11:27 PM">11:27 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/unknown-EEFEA.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/unknown-EEFEA.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: unknown.png (163.67 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-880926665411264543 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880926665411264543><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 11:28 PM">11:28 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>are you familiar with LVDS?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-880926743261753384 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880926743261753384><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/2-ADBB4.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=paulum3036 data-user-id=860212895501778954>Paulum</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 11:28 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-880926743261753384>8/27/2021 11:28 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>The buck/boost transformers are basically an auto transformer that just adds some voltage or subtracts some voltage to get it within tolerance. I think the one I use here is like .375 maybe .5 kw and fixes me up for using inverters on 5 HP roughly 220 @ 40 amps machines. The nice thing about inverters is they are soft start devices. So the power company does not have issues with dropping a heavy load on their lines all at once like an industrial contactor does.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-880927296083619870 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880927296083619870><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/2-ADBB4.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=paulum3036>Paulum</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'880926743261753384')"> The buck/boost transformers are basically an auto transformer that just adds some voltage or subtracts some voltage to get it within tolerance. I think the one I use here is like .375 maybe .5 kw and fixes me up for using inverters on 5 HP roughly 220 @ 40 amps machines. The nice thing about inverters is they are soft start devices. So the power company does not have issues with dropping a heavy load on their lines all at once like an industrial contactor does. </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 11:30 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-880927296083619870>8/27/2021 11:30 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>inverter the same as a VFD? or just simpler than a vfd, by just having soft start inverters at a fixed HP?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-880927418125275166 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880927418125275166><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/2-ADBB4.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=paulum3036 data-user-id=860212895501778954>Paulum</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 11:31 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-880927418125275166>8/27/2021 11:31 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>The 1300 volt thing was some of my meandering maybe 2-3 years ago. Had the aha lights go off for the mystery of fast charge.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-880927625256775690 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880927625256775690><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 11:31 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-880927625256775690>8/27/2021 11:31 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>at 15:00 &quot;I was dissapointed he didnt goto 48v, elon says &quot;I can&#39;t get the parts, they are all 12v&quot; maybe the suppliers will start 48v eventually, but until then we are stuck with heavier wires</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-880927868492849202 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880927868492849202><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/2-ADBB4.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=paulum3036>Paulum</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'880927418125275166')"> The 1300 volt thing was some of my meandering maybe 2-3 years ago. Had the aha lights go off for the mystery of fast charge. </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 11:32 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-880927868492849202>8/27/2021 11:32 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>it&#39;s crazy what the tesla semi chargers will run at I think its something like 1300v
<a href="https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-semi-megacharger-charging-port-close-up-look/">https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-semi-megacharger-charging-port-close-up-look/</a></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 11:36 PM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href="https://www.teslarati.com/author/gene-l/"><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Gene</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-semi-megacharger-charging-port-close-up-look/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Close-up look at the Tesla Semi &quot;Megacharger&quot; charging port</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Tesla’s semi-truck will boast an impressive range of 500 miles per single charge and leverage the company’s newest “Megacharger” for refueling. Similar to Tesla’s global Supercharger network that provides drivers of its passenger vehicles with quick charging access, Megachargers will support truckers by allowing them to recharge their big rig’s ...</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/tesla-semi-megacharger-charging-port-1024x-F207A.jpg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/tesla-semi-megacharger-charging-port-1024x-F207A.jpg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-880928254905692200 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880928254905692200><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/2-ADBB4.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=paulum3036 data-user-id=860212895501778954>Paulum</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 11:34 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-880928254905692200>8/27/2021 11:34 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>On &quot;LVDS&quot; give me the words as a few things use those initials. Been a while since I read Tesla&#39;s papers</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-880928338456227871 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880928338456227871><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 11:34 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-880928338456227871>8/27/2021 11:34 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Low voltage differential signalling</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-880928710973341727 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880928710973341727><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/2-ADBB4.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=paulum3036 data-user-id=860212895501778954>Paulum</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 11:36 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-880928710973341727>8/27/2021 11:36 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Have to study that have some can bus stuff to play with on micro controllers just not to them yet. Seems to be a robust signal method just data patterns might be proprietary.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-880928940808622100 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880928940808622100><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/2-ADBB4.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=paulum3036>Paulum</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'880928710973341727')"> Have to study that have some can bus stuff to play with on micro controllers just not to them yet. Seems to be a robust signal method just data patterns might be proprietary. </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 11:37 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-880928940808622100>8/27/2021 11:37 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I think tesla uses LVDS for camera control according to the Munro live video</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-880929539264499723 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880929539264499723><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/2-ADBB4.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=paulum3036 data-user-id=860212895501778954>Paulum</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 11:39 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-880929539264499723>8/27/2021 11:39 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Yes. I was referring to the 3 phase devices. A note of caution with running 50-60 Hz motors at higher frequency especially in higher horsepower single or 3 phase. Put insulated bearings in motors the rotor get high parasitic voltages that will discharge though uninsulated bearings!</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-880930032619515924 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880930032619515924><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 11:41 PM">11:41 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Soft start is one of the parameters that you can program on inverters there are lots of parameters. Go to automation direct website I think the manuals they have are open and should be in good English.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-880930152723415101 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880930152723415101><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/2-ADBB4.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=paulum3036>Paulum</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'880929539264499723')"> Yes. I was referring to the 3 phase devices. A note of caution with running 50-60 Hz motors at higher frequency especially in higher horsepower single or 3 phase. Put insulated bearings in motors the rotor get high parasitic voltages that will discharge though uninsulated bearings! </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 11:41 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-880930152723415101>8/27/2021 11:41 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>yeah we had tons of problems with signal noise in a certain application, using a rebuilt motor that signal noise dropped to basically 0, this must have been the reason</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-880930245551730768 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880930245551730768><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 11:42 PM">11:42 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>automation direct</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-880930264031842314 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880930264031842314><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 11:42 PM">11:42 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>love opening those boxes</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-880930398253772890 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880930398253772890><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/2-ADBB4.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=paulum3036 data-user-id=860212895501778954>Paulum</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 11:42 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-880930398253772890>8/27/2021 11:42 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Will look at Elon&#39;s stuff thinking wrong Tesla.... oops <img
loading="lazy"
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alt="😬"
title="grimacing"
src="media-ose/1f62c-CE43C.svg"></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-880930550083387452 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880930550083387452><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 11:43 PM">11:43 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Will look at LVDS too thanks</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-880930933430177822 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880930933430177822><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/2-ADBB4.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=paulum3036>Paulum</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'880930398253772890')"> Will look at Elon&#39;s stuff thinking wrong Tesla.... oops <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="😬"
title="grimacing"
src="media-ose/1f62c-CE43C.svg"> </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 11:45 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-880930933430177822>8/27/2021 11:45 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>lol! that is the best assumption though</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-880931066402177076 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880931066402177076><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/2-ADBB4.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=paulum3036 data-user-id=860212895501778954>Paulum</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 11:45 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-880931066402177076>8/27/2021 11:45 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Found a site in Netherlands that had a lot of information. Including translating US terms to EU/ISO/DIN</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-880932624430923818 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880932624430923818><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 11:51 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-880932624430923818>8/27/2021 11:51 PM</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><video class=chatlog__attachment-media controls><source src=media-ose/all_i_need_is_love_tonight-8CF56.webm alt="Video attachment" title="Video: all_i_need_is_love_tonight.webm (2.37 MB)"></video></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-880932751623217214 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880932751623217214><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/2-ADBB4.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=paulum3036 data-user-id=860212895501778954>Paulum</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 11:52 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-880932751623217214>8/27/2021 11:52 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I think the address for the Netherlands electric supplier is on another machine will make note about getting it for you.</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=pray><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=🙏 src=media-ose/1f64f-22B8D.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-880933072009297960 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880933072009297960><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 11:53 PM">11:53 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>My apologies to everyone on this channel we should have to dm unless OwnerOfOwn did it<img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-880933381158862908 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880933381158862908><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 11:54 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-880933381158862908>8/27/2021 11:54 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>That&#39;s the beauty of OSE discord, it&#39;s just a repo of the aforementioned &quot;personal information&quot; sure someone will find this thread entertaining/educational.
Channel is labeled off-topic after all</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-880933615398166528 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=880933615398166528><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/2-ADBB4.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=paulum3036 data-user-id=860212895501778954>Paulum</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, August 27, 2021 11:55 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-880933615398166528>8/27/2021 11:55 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="ownerofown">@OwnerOfOwn</span> I can feign ignorance this is my first experiences on a chat group....</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-881792573180637245 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=881792573180637245><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, August 30, 2021 8:48 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-881792573180637245>8/30/2021 8:48 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Found something weird/cool: <a href="https://theterraforming.strelka.com/">https://theterraforming.strelka.com/</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=thumbsup><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=👍 src=media-ose/1f44d-27259.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-881792802319646810 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=881792802319646810><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, August 30, 2021 8:49 AM">8:49 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Which is just the site linked to by this video (I was looking up Technocracy again :P) <a href="https://youtu.be/uNAvJ6Km2vU">https://youtu.be/uNAvJ6Km2vU</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7yWR94iOIlvd3LJZVj1_Mw><div class=chatlog__embed-author>The Terraforming Media</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNAvJ6Km2vU"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">TTF // For Planetary Governance. Part 3: Another Kind of Technocracy</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/uNAvJ6Km2vU width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-882019969976643594 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=882019969976643594><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, August 30, 2021 11:52 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-882019969976643594>8/30/2021 11:52 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://youtu.be/wgUkjbMhF18">https://youtu.be/wgUkjbMhF18</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVwxO3DgsOrQllAV_hz9GxA><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Off the Cuff</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgUkjbMhF18"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Earthships - America&#39;s Off-Grid Desert Community</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/wgUkjbMhF18 width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-882518547937509396 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=882518547937509396><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, September 1, 2021 8:53 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-882518547937509396>9/1/2021 8:53 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://contest.techbriefs.com/2021/entries/medical/11318">https://contest.techbriefs.com/2021/entries/medical/11318</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://contest.techbriefs.com/2021/entries/medical/11318><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">PPE KIT Cooling System with an application of Thermo Electric Coolers</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">The Create the Future Design Contest was launched in 2002 by the publishers of NASA Tech Briefs magazine to help stimulate and reward engineering innovation. The annual event has attracted more than 8,000 product design ideas from engineers, entrepreneurs, and students worldwide.</div></div></div></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=thumbsup><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=👍 src=media-ose/1f44d-27259.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-882623738720448592 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=882623738720448592><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/623f714c14c45bc7b732481f7021d307-E9312.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall>Nohbdy Ahtall</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'882518547937509396')"> <a href="https://contest.techbriefs.com/2021/entries/medical/11318">https://contest.techbriefs.com/2021/entries/medical/11318</a> </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=yfgame data-user-id=714607126927900673>yfgame</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, September 1, 2021 3:51 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-882623738720448592>9/1/2021 3:51 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I always thought that it would be nice if someone would develop a &quot;coat&quot; for the summer as well to keep people comfortable
Especially with the amount of people now living in deserts like Arizona, it would be nice!</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-882624090962276372 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=882624090962276372><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, September 1, 2021 3:53 PM">3:53 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I even had a few design ideas of my own some time ago</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-882625527658213417 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=882625527658213417><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, September 1, 2021 3:58 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-882625527658213417>9/1/2021 3:58 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>As a Floridian <em>i agree</em></span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-882625682969096213 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=882625682969096213><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, September 1, 2021 3:59 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-882625682969096213>9/1/2021 3:59 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>as a desert dweller, I concur</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-882625701516308551 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=882625701516308551><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, September 1, 2021 3:59 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-882625701516308551>9/1/2021 3:59 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>there is some systems, typically for Hazmat suits, or racecars (no ac, but thick fire suits)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-882625746118524968 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=882625746118524968><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, September 1, 2021 3:59 PM">3:59 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>most use ice water buckers, or phase change materials though</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-882625767199100999 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=882625767199100999><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, September 1, 2021 3:59 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-882625767199100999>9/1/2021 3:59 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>gimme a dry suit with forced air, I&#39;ll walk around looking like the Michelin man</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-882625789462458408 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=882625789462458408><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, September 1, 2021 3:59 PM">3:59 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__embed><video class=chatlog__embed-generic-gifv width=640 height=562 loop onmouseover=this.play() onmouseout=this.pause()><source src=media-ose/mp4-BF519 alt="Embedded gifv"></video></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-882625802829692948 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=882625802829692948><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, September 1, 2021 3:59 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-882625802829692948>9/1/2021 3:59 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>but a thermoelectrtic one would be neat</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Wednesday, September 1, 2021 3:59 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-882625888540295199 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=882625888540295199><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, September 1, 2021 4:00 PM">4:00 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>most use a sort of &quot;undersuit&quot; with water/cooling liquid tubes</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-882625951945617468 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=882625951945617468><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, September 1, 2021 4:00 PM">4:00 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I think there is some OTS one now, i&#39;ll dig</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-882626214949437440 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=882626214949437440><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, September 1, 2021 4:01 PM">4:01 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_Ti4GP0ntE">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_Ti4GP0ntE</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCiDJtJKMICpb9B1qf7qjEOA><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Adam Savage’s Tested</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_Ti4GP0ntE"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Adam Savage&#39;s One Day Builds: Refrigerated Cooling Suit!</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/z_Ti4GP0ntE width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-882628779074289674 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=882628779074289674><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, September 1, 2021 4:11 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-882628779074289674>9/1/2021 4:11 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Cool-Shirt-CW-XL-Water-X-Large/dp/B000K3IDS8/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&amp;keywords=racing+cooling+suit&amp;qid=1630505451&amp;sr=8-3">https://www.amazon.com/Cool-Shirt-CW-XL-Water-X-Large/dp/B000K3IDS8/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&amp;keywords=racing+cooling+suit&amp;qid=1630505451&amp;sr=8-3</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.amazon.com/Cool-Shirt-CW-XL-Water-X-Large/dp/B000K3IDS8/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&amp;keywords=racing+cooling+suit&amp;qid=1630505451&amp;sr=8-3"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Cool Shirt CW-XL Cool Water White X-Large Shirt</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Cool Shirt CW-XL Cool Water White X-Large Shirt</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/41v5NhZ2KnL._SR600%252c315_PIWhiteStrip%25-7C5DB.jpg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/41v5NhZ2KnL._SR600%252c315_PIWhiteStrip%25-7C5DB.jpg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-882628886981128255 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=882628886981128255><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, September 1, 2021 4:12 PM">4:12 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>idk which video it was in, can&#39;t find the system they mentioned</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-882636490855837726 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=882636490855837726><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, September 1, 2021 4:42 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-882636490855837726>9/1/2021 4:42 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Open Source Hardware Activism...on a major tech YouTube Channel?!?
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xF_SR6aUKHg">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xF_SR6aUKHg</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXuqSBlHAE6Xw-yeJA0Tunw><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Linus Tech Tips</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xF_SR6aUKHg"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">It&#39;s time. - Open Source Smartwatch</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/xF_SR6aUKHg width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-882636775481290803 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=882636775481290803><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, September 1, 2021 4:43 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-882636775481290803>9/1/2021 4:43 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>&quot;I&#39;m gonna build my own smartwatch, with blackjack....and sponsors&quot;</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-883119912489459732 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=883119912489459732><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a67349d5204fa45d8d75ef87bae8aef7-C25C9.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=osrsupport6829 data-user-id=788915694997209123>-- osr-support --</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, September 3, 2021 12:43 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-883119912489459732>9/3/2021 12:43 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>nice catch, there is also <a href="https://www.espruino.com/">https://www.espruino.com/</a> (water-prove), within an entire family of boards.
running Javascript on your arm - impressive! Something like this to get vibration alarm, extremely useful in a machine shop when you can&#39;t hear (and see) anything <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-883154371104354334 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=883154371104354334><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, September 3, 2021 3:00 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-883154371104354334>9/3/2021 3:00 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HfHAazNM3Q">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HfHAazNM3Q</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6uKrU_WqJ1R2HMTY3LIx5Q><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Everyday Astronaut</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HfHAazNM3Q"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Watch Firefly launch their FIRST EVER orbital rocket, Alpha!</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/-HfHAazNM3Q width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-883175506588106793 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=883175506588106793><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, September 3, 2021 4:24 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-883175506588106793>9/3/2021 4:24 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>oof scrubbed</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-884237872717246485 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=884237872717246485><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, September 6, 2021 2:45 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-884237872717246485>9/6/2021 2:45 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://youtu.be/Bea4FS-zDzc">https://youtu.be/Bea4FS-zDzc</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCU5adS8d-YX7GbJcnH0x6uA><div class=chatlog__embed-author>SuperfastMatt</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bea4FS-zDzc"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Tesla Is Lightyears Ahead Of... Tesla</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/Bea4FS-zDzc width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=thumbsup><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=👍 src=media-ose/1f44d-27259.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-886423397138059265 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=886423397138059265><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5f2e719a9dac42a723b1b51646b8a4b4-F9D26.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=life_long_learner data-user-id=827415572111032350>Paul P.</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, September 12, 2021 3:30 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-886423397138059265>9/12/2021 3:30 AM</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image0-5262B.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image0-5262B.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image0.png (2.16 MB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=100><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=💯 src=media-ose/1f4af-4CFF5.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-888977641359695942 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=888977641359695942><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5f2e719a9dac42a723b1b51646b8a4b4-F9D26.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=life_long_learner data-user-id=827415572111032350>Paul P.</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, September 19, 2021 4:39 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-888977641359695942>9/19/2021 4:39 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/gifs/comments/pqqrcl/boeing_737_reverse_thrust/?utm_source=share&amp;utm_medium=ios_app&amp;utm_name=iossmf">https://www.reddit.com/r/gifs/comments/pqqrcl/boeing_737_reverse_thrust/?utm_source=share&amp;utm_medium=ios_app&amp;utm_name=iossmf</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><video class=chatlog__embed-generic-video width=444 height=444 controls><source src=media-ose/pqqrcl-6169D alt="Embedded video"></video></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-889323806072668160 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=889323806072668160><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, September 20, 2021 3:35 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-889323806072668160>9/20/2021 3:35 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I still need to document the Local P-3 Orions at the navy base near me before they replace them all with P-8s (essentially upgraded Boeing 737s or some similar turbofan plane)
They have <em>turboprops</em> and make this (much nicer imo) low humming sound that is kind of iconic, and i think they could reverse the blade position to go in reverse, so could stop fast or something
I just want to get like a <em>good</em> mic and maybe even a binuaural and/or ambisonic one to just capture the sounds, and some form of good camera stuff
Longer rant for another time, but lots of newer planes/ships etc are never put in museums, or ESPECIALLY never run as antiques to to maitnence cost / decomissioning etc, so i <em>really</em> want to get good documentation of what they are like before they go &quot;extinct&quot; sort of!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-889396308509597737 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=889396308509597737><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, September 20, 2021 8:23 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-889396308509597737>9/20/2021 8:23 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I thought maybe it&#39;s been brought up here but the YouTuber <strong>Isaac Arthur</strong> explores &quot;hard sci-fi&quot; or perhaps just a depth and breadth into futuristic engineering and concepts.
I&#39;ve always been into this stuff, but things are connecting even more. For example not long ago I barely cared/knew much of chemistry, then &quot;Nile Red&quot; laid out a lot of understanding, now hearing more about the &quot;macro&quot; and &quot;megastructure&quot; aspects - such as the hydrogen and fusion possibilities mentioned in the below video - is really tying things together. Understanding and excitement. There&#39;s way too many videos, but here&#39;s one:
<a href="https://youtu.be/pzuHxL5FD5U">https://youtu.be/pzuHxL5FD5U</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZFipeZtQM5CKUjx6grh54g><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Isaac Arthur</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzuHxL5FD5U"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Starlifting</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/pzuHxL5FD5U width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-889462733739798538 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=889462733739798538><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, September 20, 2021 12:47 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-889462733739798538>9/20/2021 12:47 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I tried to watch almost all of his videos during a rough part in my life, helped me through a lot of it just hearing someone talk about GIANT ideas, planetary-scale projects.
Of course getting 7.9 Billion people on the same page is difficult, but for virgin planets, more can be done. Hopeful for space colonization one day</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-889505384774135869 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=889505384774135869><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5f2e719a9dac42a723b1b51646b8a4b4-F9D26.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall>Nohbdy Ahtall</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'889396308509597737')"> I thought maybe it&#39;s been brought up here but the YouTuber <strong>Isaac Arthur</strong> explores &quot;hard sci-fi&quot; or perhaps just a depth and breadth into futuristic engineering and concepts.
I&#39;ve always been into this stuff, but things are connecting even more. For example not long ago I barely cared/knew much of chemistry, then &quot;Nile Red&quot; laid out a lot of understanding, now hearing more about the &quot;macro&quot; and &quot;megastructure&quot; aspects - such as the hydrogen and fusion possibilities mentioned in the below video - is really tying things together. Understanding and excitement. There&#39;s way too many videos, but here&#39;s one:
<a href="https://youtu.be/pzuHxL5FD5U">https://youtu.be/pzuHxL5FD5U</a> </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=life_long_learner data-user-id=827415572111032350>Paul P.</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, September 20, 2021 3:36 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-889505384774135869>9/20/2021 3:36 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>His video on arcologies and food growing are very thought provoking and well done.
I want to watch it again to ground my optimism in some concrete realities (and then test them with actual farming <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-891468363451236353 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=891468363451236353><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9bd7c008e5ea7c5ef0152d1e67f6a1cb-C0447.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(11,150,2) title=whurauk data-user-id=133676055616552960>Whurauk</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, September 26, 2021 1:37 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-891468363451236353>9/26/2021 1:37 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="life_long_learner">@Paul P.</span> Which offline wallet do you use? (open-source if possible <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="😄"
title="smile"
src="media-ose/1f604-BF863.svg"> )</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Sunday, September 26, 2021 1:37 AM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-891483137178234880 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=891483137178234880><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5f2e719a9dac42a723b1b51646b8a4b4-F9D26.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/9bd7c008e5ea7c5ef0152d1e67f6a1cb-C0447.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(11,150,2) title=whurauk>Whurauk</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'891468363451236353')"> <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="life_long_learner">@Paul P.</span> Which offline wallet do you use? (open-source if possible <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="😄"
title="smile"
src="media-ose/1f604-BF863.svg"> ) </span> <span class=chatlog__reply-edited-timestamp title="Sunday, September 26, 2021 1:37 AM">(edited)</span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=life_long_learner data-user-id=827415572111032350>Paul P.</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, September 26, 2021 2:35 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-891483137178234880>9/26/2021 2:35 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Most wallets and decentralized services are open source, it would be difficult to trust their security otherwise <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg">
I use MetaMask with seed phrase backed up in a password manager I wrote myself. If I want airgapping / cold storage I would use it on a raspberry pi and then unplug it.</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-891483322209955921 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=891483322209955921><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, September 26, 2021 2:36 AM">2:36 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Frame also looks very well done, I haven’t used it extensively in my defi day to day</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-891483527579856947 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=891483527579856947><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9bd7c008e5ea7c5ef0152d1e67f6a1cb-C0447.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/5f2e719a9dac42a723b1b51646b8a4b4-F9D26.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=life_long_learner>Paul P.</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'891483137178234880')"> Most wallets and decentralized services are open source, it would be difficult to trust their security otherwise <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg">
I use MetaMask with seed phrase backed up in a password manager I wrote myself. If I want airgapping / cold storage I would use it on a raspberry pi and then unplug it. </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(11,150,2) title=whurauk data-user-id=133676055616552960>Whurauk</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, September 26, 2021 2:37 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-891483527579856947>9/26/2021 2:37 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Right, I forgot about that part. MetaMask isn&#39;t a centralized exchange as well? Like coinbase? I only used it to buy NFTs..</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-891484042732642344 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=891484042732642344><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9bd7c008e5ea7c5ef0152d1e67f6a1cb-C0447.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/5f2e719a9dac42a723b1b51646b8a4b4-F9D26.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=life_long_learner>Paul P.</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'891483322209955921')"> Frame also looks very well done, I haven’t used it extensively in my defi day to day </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(11,150,2) title=whurauk data-user-id=133676055616552960>Whurauk</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, September 26, 2021 2:39 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-891484042732642344>9/26/2021 2:39 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>(was a link) ? (just to be sure i&#39;m on the good site to look into)</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Sunday, September 26, 2021 2:53 AM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-891486780661043260 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=891486780661043260><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5f2e719a9dac42a723b1b51646b8a4b4-F9D26.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/9bd7c008e5ea7c5ef0152d1e67f6a1cb-C0447.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(11,150,2) title=whurauk>Whurauk</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'891483527579856947')"> Right, I forgot about that part. MetaMask isn&#39;t a centralized exchange as well? Like coinbase? I only used it to buy NFTs.. </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=life_long_learner data-user-id=827415572111032350>Paul P.</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, September 26, 2021 2:50 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-891486780661043260>9/26/2021 2:50 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>MetaMask is definitely not a centralized exchange. It’s client side only software that’s fully open source, and is the oldest and standard to interact with web3 across all Ethereum based chains and their layer 2’s.
I would be careful of pop ups that imitate MetaMask ui, but other than that no major vulnerabilities have been found with it.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-891487374561931285 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=891487374561931285><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5f2e719a9dac42a723b1b51646b8a4b4-F9D26.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/9bd7c008e5ea7c5ef0152d1e67f6a1cb-C0447.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(11,150,2) title=whurauk>Whurauk</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'891484042732642344')"> (was a link) ? (just to be sure i&#39;m on the good site to look into) </span> <span class=chatlog__reply-edited-timestamp title="Sunday, September 26, 2021 2:53 AM">(edited)</span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=life_long_learner data-user-id=827415572111032350>Paul P.</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, September 26, 2021 2:52 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-891487374561931285>9/26/2021 2:52 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>It’s this one <a href="https://frame.sh/">https://frame.sh/</a></span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-891662084729880608 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=891662084729880608><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, September 26, 2021 2:26 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-891662084729880608>9/26/2021 2:26 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I remember being highly interested, but way too poor, in Bitcoin when it was around the $12 mark. I remember letting all my friends know about it. The point was all about the fact of: working for it, and paying with it to get stuff, like food. The whole stock-marketization of it is when I lost interest. When I heard also that people were trading very tiny fractions of a coin, I thought &quot;well how many digits can one go in the decimal?&quot; and felt like the <em>finite</em> aspect had been worked around.
Interest was returned for nearly every aspect of Crypto that has little to do with the money-game, but not interested in any coin that requires me to &quot;put in money&quot; to use. I&#39;m waiting on the almighty <strong>Decentralized Autonomous Organizations</strong> aspect to evolve, among many other non-monetary-related use cases.</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Sunday, September 26, 2021 2:27 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-891715349039423508 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=891715349039423508><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5f2e719a9dac42a723b1b51646b8a4b4-F9D26.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=life_long_learner data-user-id=827415572111032350>Paul P.</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, September 26, 2021 5:58 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-891715349039423508>9/26/2021 5:58 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>The ability for communities and neighbors to coordinate among themselves, without relying on outside parties, is my original dream for distributed ledgers as well. I see it as existing on a spectrum of
<code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--multiline nohighlight">buying in / speculating with old money to create new money &lt;----------&gt; coordinating directly between community members</code>
One can view this as a transfer of wealth, if you play far on the first end of the spectrum. This includes trading, speculating, accepting crypto as payment, and is what most of the world still sees crypto as: a gambling parlor or ponzi scheme to take advantage of, or a threat to existing monetary systems.
On the far right of the spectrum, are probably systems that haven&#39;t been invented yet, perhaps that let members run nodes and validate transactions that record value directly, without having to pay an outside blockchain.
Today the way most people interact with coins is somewhere in the middle, or there are many more dimensions / axes than captured here.
For an OSE coin, I see the contribution / validation as: building, designing, documenting, uploading open source designs, and buying the parts or finished product.
Fablabs, hablabs, hackerspaces, and makerspaces can run the nodes that incorporate people&#39;s transactions and activities for free, based on face-to-face (even over zoom) interactions.
Ideally it would use a cross-chain contract, one not tied to any particular blockchain but secured by many of them.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-891748318596714526 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=891748318596714526><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a67349d5204fa45d8d75ef87bae8aef7-C25C9.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=osrsupport6829 data-user-id=788915694997209123>-- osr-support --</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, September 26, 2021 8:09 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-891748318596714526>9/26/2021 8:09 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>3 years Open-Source Plastic - Recycling <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg">
<a href="https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipOkpPWS_bU1Qw4ccrfXzRd1KM2oSRgEAMeR4ZvJzgb3AVVizl8fYd5hlHMB-_S8Pg?key=YTJfQTZrNnVub0JOajlFdFhjNFNYdlZnZzJhbTdn">https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipOkpPWS_bU1Qw4ccrfXzRd1KM2oSRgEAMeR4ZvJzgb3AVVizl8fYd5hlHMB-_S8Pg?key=YTJfQTZrNnVub0JOajlFdFhjNFNYdlZnZzJhbTdn</a></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-891748495940263937 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=891748495940263937><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, September 26, 2021 8:10 PM">8:10 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/thumbnails-2-2B0F4.JPG> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/thumbnails-2-2B0F4.JPG alt="Image attachment" title="Image: thumbnails-2.JPG (172.45 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=heart><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=❤️ src=media-ose/2764-A3D25.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-891760794503626763 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=891760794503626763><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a67349d5204fa45d8d75ef87bae8aef7-C25C9.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/5f2e719a9dac42a723b1b51646b8a4b4-F9D26.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=life_long_learner>Paul P.</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'891715349039423508')"> The ability for communities and neighbors to coordinate among themselves, without relying on outside parties, is my original dream for distributed ledgers as well. I see it as existing on a spectrum of
<code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--multiline nohighlight">buying in / speculating with old money to create new money &lt;----------&gt; coordinating directly between community members</code>
One can view this as a transfer of wealth, if you play far on the first end of the spectrum. This includes trading, speculating, accepting crypto as payment, and is what most of the world still sees crypto as: a gambling parlor or ponzi scheme to take advantage of, or a threat to existing monetary systems.
On the far right of the spectrum, are probably systems that haven&#39;t been invented yet, perhaps that let members run nodes and validate transactions that record value directly, without having to pay an outside blockchain.
Today the way most people interact with coins is somewhere in the middle, or there are many more dimensions / axes than captured here.
For an OSE coin, I see the contribution / validation as: building, designing, documenting, uploading open source designs, and buying the parts or finished product.
Fablabs, hablabs, hackerspaces, and makerspaces can run the nodes that incorporate people&#39;s transactions and activities for free, based on face-to-face (even over zoom) interactions.
Ideally it would use a cross-chain contract, one not tied to any particular blockchain but secured by many of them. </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=osrsupport6829 data-user-id=788915694997209123>-- osr-support --</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, September 26, 2021 8:59 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-891760794503626763>9/26/2021 8:59 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="life_long_learner">@Paul P.</span> only problem I see is that any craft needs proper bills for the tax. I can&#180;t see how crypto doesn&#180;t mess this already screwed process up. As a vendor, I am often forced to chose from sources where paperwork is easier. Prices are somewhat even secondary ...</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-891761163082289184 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=891761163082289184><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9bd7c008e5ea7c5ef0152d1e67f6a1cb-C0447.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/a67349d5204fa45d8d75ef87bae8aef7-C25C9.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=osrsupport6829>-- osr-support --</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'891748495940263937')"> <em>Click to see attachment</em> <span>🖼️</span> </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(11,150,2) title=whurauk data-user-id=133676055616552960>Whurauk</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, September 26, 2021 9:00 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-891761163082289184>9/26/2021 9:00 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Man I can&#39;t wait your website is done <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="😄"
title="smile"
src="media-ose/1f604-BF863.svg"> In the future I will like to build the filament maker! keep going mate I love what you do!</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Sunday, September 26, 2021 9:00 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-891762389538725938 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=891762389538725938><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a67349d5204fa45d8d75ef87bae8aef7-C25C9.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=osrsupport6829 data-user-id=788915694997209123>-- osr-support --</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, September 26, 2021 9:05 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-891762389538725938>9/26/2021 9:05 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> yeah, can&#180;t wait either. thanks for the flowers ! long way to go</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=sunflower><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=🌻 src=media-ose/1f33b-76423.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>2</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-891763068181291052 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=891763068181291052><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9bd7c008e5ea7c5ef0152d1e67f6a1cb-C0447.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(11,150,2) title=whurauk data-user-id=133676055616552960>Whurauk</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, September 26, 2021 9:08 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-891763068181291052>9/26/2021 9:08 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>As long as you keep going <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-891763069695442944 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=891763069695442944><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/def5e0a7ff07e73d477a87df10a3dc4f-BFBB1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(153,45,34) title=Arcane#7800 data-user-id=437808476106784770>Arcane</span> <span class=chatlog__author-tag>BOT</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, September 26, 2021 9:08 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-891763069695442944>9/26/2021 9:08 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="whurauk">@Whurauk</span> has reached level <strong>4</strong>. GG!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-892097266691752017 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=892097266691752017><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5f2e719a9dac42a723b1b51646b8a4b4-F9D26.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/a67349d5204fa45d8d75ef87bae8aef7-C25C9.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=osrsupport6829>-- osr-support --</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'891748318596714526')"> 3 years Open-Source Plastic - Recycling <img
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<a href="https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipOkpPWS_bU1Qw4ccrfXzRd1KM2oSRgEAMeR4ZvJzgb3AVVizl8fYd5hlHMB-_S8Pg?key=YTJfQTZrNnVub0JOajlFdFhjNFNYdlZnZzJhbTdn">https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipOkpPWS_bU1Qw4ccrfXzRd1KM2oSRgEAMeR4ZvJzgb3AVVizl8fYd5hlHMB-_S8Pg?key=YTJfQTZrNnVub0JOajlFdFhjNFNYdlZnZzJhbTdn</a> </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=life_long_learner data-user-id=827415572111032350>Paul P.</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, September 27, 2021 7:16 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-892097266691752017>9/27/2021 7:16 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Beautiful work <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="osrsupport6829">@-- osr-support --</span> do you mind saying more about any particular favorite pieces?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-892097271473246278 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=892097271473246278><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/def5e0a7ff07e73d477a87df10a3dc4f-BFBB1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(153,45,34) title=Arcane#7800 data-user-id=437808476106784770>Arcane</span> <span class=chatlog__author-tag>BOT</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, September 27, 2021 7:16 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-892097271473246278>9/27/2021 7:16 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="life_long_learner">@Paul P.</span> has reached level <strong>8</strong>. GG!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-892098721272172624 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=892098721272172624><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a67349d5204fa45d8d75ef87bae8aef7-C25C9.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=osrsupport6829 data-user-id=788915694997209123>-- osr-support --</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, September 27, 2021 7:21 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-892098721272172624>9/27/2021 7:21 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="life_long_learner">@Paul P.</span> - thanks, you&#39;re right - adding this to the next vlog/podcast. more likely in a few weeks or so. there&#39;s quite some stuff coming together (pellet cutter, instead of filament ...). see you in a bit <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-893609159830949888 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=893609159830949888><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5f2e719a9dac42a723b1b51646b8a4b4-F9D26.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=life_long_learner data-user-id=827415572111032350>Paul P.</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, October 1, 2021 11:23 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-893609159830949888>10/1/2021 11:23 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>commuting home after wiring your 3D printer together
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIm4HvDgQCM">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIm4HvDgQCM</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCS4iXNXsvlOHm7TuXLltreg><div class=chatlog__embed-author>chilli music</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIm4HvDgQCM"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Chill Drive - Lofi hip hop mix ~ Stress Relief, Relaxing Music</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/EIm4HvDgQCM width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-894668283171700756 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=894668283171700756><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/54ec0f972099867657f254f74ed7f3a3-6236E.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=jomxl data-user-id=665899718332907531>JoMXL</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, October 4, 2021 9:32 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-894668283171700756>10/4/2021 9:32 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>oopsie, facebook fucked up haha <a href="https://www.zdnet.com/article/what-took-facebook-down/">https://www.zdnet.com/article/what-took-facebook-down/</a></span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-895696126160818186 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=895696126160818186><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a67349d5204fa45d8d75ef87bae8aef7-C25C9.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=osrsupport6829 data-user-id=788915694997209123>-- osr-support --</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, October 7, 2021 5:36 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-895696126160818186>10/7/2021 5:36 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Hey everybody,
Does anyone have by chance a quick tip to recognize specific bottles (inside a closed hopper)? The bottles can be transparent or colored. Was wondering to train &quot;Lobe&quot; with pre-processed images (black white, ... ). The bottles have often unique geometric features... could be a small consulting job if you like <img
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It&#39;s part of the first OpenSource reverse vending machine. Registered vendors/bottles will reward users with something printed and get some cents at the next ATM or counter ...
thanks in advance</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/20211007_155316-3FA8D.jpg> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/20211007_155316-3FA8D.jpg alt="Image attachment" title="Image: 20211007_155316.jpg (563.63 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-895696126953529395 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=895696126953529395><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/def5e0a7ff07e73d477a87df10a3dc4f-BFBB1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(153,45,34) title=Arcane#7800 data-user-id=437808476106784770>Arcane</span> <span class=chatlog__author-tag>BOT</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, October 7, 2021 5:36 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-895696126953529395>10/7/2021 5:36 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="osrsupport6829">@-- osr-support --</span> has reached level <strong>10</strong>. GG!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-895697933587054592 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=895697933587054592><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5f2e719a9dac42a723b1b51646b8a4b4-F9D26.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/a67349d5204fa45d8d75ef87bae8aef7-C25C9.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=osrsupport6829>-- osr-support --</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'895696126160818186')"> Hey everybody,
Does anyone have by chance a quick tip to recognize specific bottles (inside a closed hopper)? The bottles can be transparent or colored. Was wondering to train &quot;Lobe&quot; with pre-processed images (black white, ... ). The bottles have often unique geometric features... could be a small consulting job if you like <img
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alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg">
It&#39;s part of the first OpenSource reverse vending machine. Registered vendors/bottles will reward users with something printed and get some cents at the next ATM or counter ...
thanks in advance </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=life_long_learner data-user-id=827415572111032350>Paul P.</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, October 7, 2021 5:43 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-895697933587054592>10/7/2021 5:43 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>That sounds like a cool project! I would imagine it can be done with OpenCV, or training a support vector machine classifier using PyTorch or Kerala. Do you have any labeled examples as a training set?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-895700672891195413 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=895700672891195413><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a67349d5204fa45d8d75ef87bae8aef7-C25C9.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=osrsupport6829 data-user-id=788915694997209123>-- osr-support --</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, October 7, 2021 5:54 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-895700672891195413>10/7/2021 5:54 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>PyTorch/Kerala: let me check - my times in image processing / neural networks are long counted - Lobe looks great but no idea it can handle this sort of noise coming from transparent bottles, lightened up via LEDs.
Samples : not yet, I start taking some soonish.
OpenCV was as far I can remember better in tracking and matching when you have good and clean edges - I will give it another shot - I hope I don&#39;t blow the hardware specs.
thanks for the hints, looks like some fun home work <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-895831033705017374 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=895831033705017374><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5f2e719a9dac42a723b1b51646b8a4b4-F9D26.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=life_long_learner data-user-id=827415572111032350>Paul P.</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, October 8, 2021 2:32 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-895831033705017374>10/8/2021 2:32 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Oops *Keras , Kerala is a city in India I believe</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-896040569535610982 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=896040569535610982><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5f2e719a9dac42a723b1b51646b8a4b4-F9D26.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=life_long_learner data-user-id=827415572111032350>Paul P.</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, October 8, 2021 4:25 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-896040569535610982>10/8/2021 4:25 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Good point, I didn’t consider the transparent bottle might look like noise. Lighting up with LEDs is a great idea, perhaps from different angles to get different speculate highlights.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-896092786049290301 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=896092786049290301><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a67349d5204fa45d8d75ef87bae8aef7-C25C9.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=osrsupport6829 data-user-id=788915694997209123>-- osr-support --</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, October 8, 2021 7:52 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-896092786049290301>10/8/2021 7:52 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Yeah, was just an idea but still a so-called &#39;controlled environment&#39;; feels like analyzing show/disco lights whilst on drugs - from a sensor perspective <img
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Was wondering how to deal with smashed/flattened bottles past the beta stage - in public spaces, etc...</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Friday, October 8, 2021 7:53 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-896094503474180117 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=896094503474180117><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, October 8, 2021 7:59 PM">7:59 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="ericlotze">@Eric Lotze</span> - happy to know you&#39;re learning a craft - metal - somewhat consider it a king discipline as doing game engines ...
other than checking in on the usual YT channels (<a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcxlBLmujrjTVSSUkzZ2Jlg)">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcxlBLmujrjTVSSUkzZ2Jlg)</a>, doing straight beads is just the half. I learned - better said my motoric and senses) - most from welding in very uncomfortable and inaccessible positions. I hope you get a MIG with gas welder however - stick is great for outdoors and whatever shit storm scenarios but learning how to move develops best from MIG. You can all forget then again when doing TIG <img
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here some fun stuff : <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/1887920654626913">https://www.facebook.com/groups/1887920654626913</a></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Friday, October 8, 2021 8:35 PM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCM0kHJXSHR1k1wtLuliKmHg><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Weld.com</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKS8fVVJ3kU"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Welcome to Weld.com!</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/PKS8fVVJ3kU width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.facebook.com/groups/1887920654626913><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Facebook Groups</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Trust me, i&#39;m a welder has 47,989 members. If you&#39;re here, we&#39;ll assume we can trust that you&#39;re a welder, of some sort. These pages are designed for welders who have a higher level of pride in their...</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-896096544103739463 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=896096544103739463><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, October 8, 2021 8:07 PM">8:07 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Great extra $$ on the side btw. Good welders can laugh about their college buddies <img
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src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> There&#39;s plenty of neighbours waiting forya</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Friday, October 8, 2021 8:08 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-897783143585689651 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=897783143585689651><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a67349d5204fa45d8d75ef87bae8aef7-C25C9.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=osrsupport6829 data-user-id=788915694997209123>-- osr-support --</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, October 13, 2021 11:49 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-897783143585689651>10/13/2021 11:49 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Discord Opensource Alternative near the finish line : <a href="https://github.com/fosscord">https://github.com/fosscord</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(30,35,39,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://github.com/fosscord><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Fosscord (former Discord Open Source)</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Fosscord is a free open source selfhostable discord compatible chat, voice and video platform - Fosscord (former Discord Open Source)</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/75180178-EA439> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/75180178-EA439 alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=raised_hands><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=🙌 src=media-ose/1f64c-7C820.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>4</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-898306561607356478 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=898306561607356478><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/a67349d5204fa45d8d75ef87bae8aef7-C25C9.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=osrsupport6829>-- osr-support --</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'895696126160818186')"> Hey everybody,
Does anyone have by chance a quick tip to recognize specific bottles (inside a closed hopper)? The bottles can be transparent or colored. Was wondering to train &quot;Lobe&quot; with pre-processed images (black white, ... ). The bottles have often unique geometric features... could be a small consulting job if you like <img
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It&#39;s part of the first OpenSource reverse vending machine. Registered vendors/bottles will reward users with something printed and get some cents at the next ATM or counter ...
thanks in advance </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, October 14, 2021 10:29 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-898306561607356478>10/14/2021 10:29 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>IIRC someone had a project like that on Precious Plastic&#39;s discord, they may have even made an app, i need to look into it more for specifics / make a page (or you could!), also there is that sensor someone on the discord developed</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-898306732701417492 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=898306732701417492><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, October 14, 2021 10:30 PM">10:30 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>A sort of Open Source Automated Recycling Sorter, or even a Materials Recovery Facility would be really neat though</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-899059152654065685 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=899059152654065685><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a67349d5204fa45d8d75ef87bae8aef7-C25C9.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze>Eric Lotze</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'898306561607356478')"> IIRC someone had a project like that on Precious Plastic&#39;s discord, they may have even made an app, i need to look into it more for specifics / make a page (or you could!), also there is that sensor someone on the discord developed </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=osrsupport6829 data-user-id=788915694997209123>-- osr-support --</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, October 17, 2021 12:20 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-899059152654065685>10/17/2021 12:20 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Thanks,
The discussions and posts there have been mostly about NIR/Raman spectrometers. Looking at the performance and specs of those chips (1K +), I doubt it can differ between different PET brands. What&#39;s left are laser based systems as often used on highspeed sorting conveyors - ultra-expensive and my last hope: image processing (feature detection). I think we can convince the vendors to alter slightly the bottlenecks to facilitate easier recognition if that is really needed. That would also enable scanning deformed bottles - at least in theory <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-899061533542334465 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=899061533542334465><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a67349d5204fa45d8d75ef87bae8aef7-C25C9.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=osrsupport6829 data-user-id=788915694997209123>-- osr-support --</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, October 17, 2021 12:29 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-899061533542334465>10/17/2021 12:29 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>NIR based scanning however wants the object really close and steady to the sensor. Recent systems (RVMs) transport the bottle over a conveyor before it&#39;s accepted by the scanner, running on a radial rail around. Those systems are patented and pretty expensive.
Gonna try OpenCV first, at least to get the samples filtered to usable data.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-899066924128931880 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=899066924128931880><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, October 17, 2021 12:50 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-899066924128931880>10/17/2021 12:50 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlFVPnGEb8o">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlFVPnGEb8o</a> Would probably be a really useful item for outdoor work + screen-based technology (meetings, entertainment, learning, etc)</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUQo7nzH1sXVpzL92VesANw><div class=chatlog__embed-author>DIY Perks</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlFVPnGEb8o"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Building an ULTRA-BRIGHT water-cooled TV...</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/WlFVPnGEb8o width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-899823218813202513 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=899823218813202513><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5f2e719a9dac42a723b1b51646b8a4b4-F9D26.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=life_long_learner data-user-id=827415572111032350>Paul P.</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, October 19, 2021 2:56 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-899823218813202513>10/19/2021 2:56 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://youtu.be/ZhhsWoxokRY">https://youtu.be/ZhhsWoxokRY</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHI7D_UC5FyUYo4yX1LdpKQ><div class=chatlog__embed-author>ShawnBeuscher</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhhsWoxokRY"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">house Halloween projection map sample</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/ZhhsWoxokRY width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-902506302121582623 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=902506302121582623><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/bfda12c56791ee8bacac0539df072826-465AA.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(237,146,238) title=hkienle data-user-id=860164694510010429>hkienle</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, October 26, 2021 12:37 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-902506302121582623>10/26/2021 12:37 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>About crypto wallets/currencies: They are all based on public/private keys (asymmetric cryptography), right!? There seems to be real thread looming wrt to quantum computing...
Here is a background article: <a href="https://cacm.acm.org/magazines/2021/9/255037-the-complex-path-to-quantum-resistance/fulltext">https://cacm.acm.org/magazines/2021/9/255037-the-complex-path-to-quantum-resistance/fulltext</a>
Some quotes:
<ul><li>&quot;Hence, standardized and widely used asymmetric cryptographic systems will be severely impacted by a sufficiently capable quantum computer.&quot;</li><li>&quot;harvest-then-decrypt attack happens when an adversary captures and stores encrypted data and sits on it until a quantum computer becomes available to provide a means for decryption&quot;</li><li>&quot;Mosca estimates a 20% chance of a universal quantum computer, with the ability to break RSA 2048, within 10 years&quot;</li></ul>Especially the harvest-then-decrypt attack would care me quite a bit if I had serious money in crypto...</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://cacm.acm.org/magazines/2021/9/255037-the-complex-path-to-quantum-resistance/fulltext><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">The Complex Path to Quantum Resistance</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Is your organization prepared?</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/081821_Unsplash_The-Complex-Path.large-BDC5E.jpg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/081821_Unsplash_The-Complex-Path.large-BDC5E.jpg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=smiling_face_with_tear><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=🥲 src=media-ose/1f972-F415D.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-903855529753997312 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=903855529753997312><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, October 30, 2021 5:59 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-903855529753997312>10/30/2021 5:59 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Yeah, I can see that on the horizon, another thing to consider. Thanks for sharing!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-904053540685762640 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=904053540685762640><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5f2e719a9dac42a723b1b51646b8a4b4-F9D26.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/bfda12c56791ee8bacac0539df072826-465AA.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(237,146,238) title=hkienle>hkienle</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'902506302121582623')"> About crypto wallets/currencies: They are all based on public/private keys (asymmetric cryptography), right!? There seems to be real thread looming wrt to quantum computing...
Here is a background article: <a href="https://cacm.acm.org/magazines/2021/9/255037-the-complex-path-to-quantum-resistance/fulltext">https://cacm.acm.org/magazines/2021/9/255037-the-complex-path-to-quantum-resistance/fulltext</a>
Some quotes:
<ul><li>&quot;Hence, standardized and widely used asymmetric cryptographic systems will be severely impacted by a sufficiently capable quantum computer.&quot;</li><li>&quot;harvest-then-decrypt attack happens when an adversary captures and stores encrypted data and sits on it until a quantum computer becomes available to provide a means for decryption&quot;</li><li>&quot;Mosca estimates a 20% chance of a universal quantum computer, with the ability to break RSA 2048, within 10 years&quot;</li></ul>Especially the harvest-then-decrypt attack would care me quite a bit if I had serious money in crypto... </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=life_long_learner data-user-id=827415572111032350>Paul P.</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, October 30, 2021 7:06 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-904053540685762640>10/30/2021 7:06 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Great perspectives. I was at a CRYPTO academic + NIST standards workshop in 2019 , and the latter was full of veteran and newbie engineers coming together to discuss and judge different competing standards that NIST should endorse, including quantum resistant crypto systems that the U.S. can use to mitigate foreign intelligence, but also that citizens can use too against NSA.
the winners of these standards contests are usually the best “marketed”: their inventors give a lot of talks and communicate the most to their colleagues, and sometimes release and propose a lot of new standards, so that one will stick.</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-904053752699437116 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=904053752699437116><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, October 30, 2021 7:06 PM">7:06 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Very fascinating intersection of human nature, engineering, and theoretical science.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-904488574387388416 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=904488574387388416><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, October 31, 2021 10:54 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-904488574387388416>10/31/2021 10:54 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>New ~10 Minute Blender Open Movie:
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cMxraX_5RE">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cMxraX_5RE</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCz75RVbH8q2jdBJ4SnwuZZQ><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Blender Studio</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cMxraX_5RE"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Sprite Fright - Halloween Animated Short</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/_cMxraX_5RE width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=laughing><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=😆 src=media-ose/1f606-BE94E.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-908175541155282964 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=908175541155282964><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, November 11, 2021 3:05 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-908175541155282964>11/11/2021 3:05 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://openbci.com/">https://openbci.com/</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(1,19,38,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://openbci.com/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Open Source Tools for Neuroscience</div></a></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/UC-production-1140x424-3F975.jpg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/UC-production-1140x424-3F975.jpg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-908175568393084940 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=908175568393084940><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, November 11, 2021 3:05 AM">3:05 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>can we just simulate the village?</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=grey_marcin><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=grey_marcin src=media-ose/870861870691668008-8743D.png loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-908175591746986045 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=908175591746986045><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, November 11, 2021 3:05 AM">3:05 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>could be faster</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-909113325131030570 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=909113325131030570><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5f2e719a9dac42a723b1b51646b8a4b4-F9D26.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=ownerofown>OwnerOfOwn</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'908175568393084940')"> can we just simulate the village? </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=life_long_learner data-user-id=827415572111032350>Paul P.</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, November 13, 2021 5:11 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-909113325131030570>11/13/2021 5:11 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>These look like villager brains in vats to me.</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-909113409377804378 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=909113409377804378><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, November 13, 2021 5:12 PM">5:12 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__embed><video class=chatlog__embed-generic-gifv width=640 height=262 loop onmouseover=this.play() onmouseout=this.pause()><source src=media-ose/mp4-39281 alt="Embedded gifv"></video></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-909165344214622249 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=909165344214622249><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/7ae59e77433a1eb8baae44b1e29c212a-6602D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=wesxdz data-user-id=230472437265989635>Wesxdz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, November 13, 2021 8:38 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-909165344214622249>11/13/2021 8:38 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I love OpenBCI, I was gonna buy one earlier this year but all my money went to OSE and then they raised the price 28%</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-909165539757289552 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=909165539757289552><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, November 13, 2021 8:39 PM">8:39 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>In terms of simulating the village, I was talking with Ken about how it would be possible to fund the GVCS research by selling NFTs for each machine to fund its development</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-909165721152528434 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=909165721152528434><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, November 13, 2021 8:39 PM">8:39 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>but the basic idea is you would pay a concept artist to create aesthetic fictional renditions of the machines being used in a future society</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-909166270509895730 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=909166270509895730><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, November 13, 2021 8:42 PM">8:42 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>then you know sell n editions of each for x price, whatever it would be estimated to prototype</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-909166727613526086 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=909166727613526086><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, November 13, 2021 8:43 PM">8:43 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I think it could work if the artist was good enough</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-909166824334180492 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=909166824334180492><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, November 13, 2021 8:44 PM">8:44 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>but you could also at least demo prototype machines in a virtual 3d environment</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-913068359560613948 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=913068359560613948><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, November 24, 2021 3:07 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-913068359560613948>11/24/2021 3:07 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Just know that NFT participation might put OSE in a negative light to groups who think more in line with what GVCS provides - I&#39;ve been finding lots of people who would love OSE&#39;s GVCS for what it stands for, but despise NFTs and would rather not support any organizations supporting them.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-913072387061338153 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=913072387061338153><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5f2e719a9dac42a723b1b51646b8a4b4-F9D26.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=life_long_learner data-user-id=827415572111032350>Paul P.</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, November 24, 2021 3:23 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-913072387061338153>11/24/2021 3:23 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>There are many opinions for sure, something will always offend someone. There is a concept called “anti-mentor” where if a group disapproves something, you know you’re on the right track <img
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If any of those groups who are anti-NFT would have helped finish GVCS, they would have done so already.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-913072738497884210 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=913072738497884210><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5f2e719a9dac42a723b1b51646b8a4b4-F9D26.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/7ae59e77433a1eb8baae44b1e29c212a-6602D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=wesxdz>Wesxdz</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'909166727613526086')"> I think it could work if the artist was good enough </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=life_long_learner data-user-id=827415572111032350>Paul P.</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, November 24, 2021 3:25 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-913072738497884210>11/24/2021 3:25 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>You can hire artists especially if you have an inspiring vision.
There may already be talented artists in this server <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="wesxdz">@Wesxdz</span> <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-913072739202498620 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=913072739202498620><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/def5e0a7ff07e73d477a87df10a3dc4f-BFBB1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(153,45,34) title=Arcane#7800 data-user-id=437808476106784770>Arcane</span> <span class=chatlog__author-tag>BOT</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, November 24, 2021 3:25 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-913072739202498620>11/24/2021 3:25 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="life_long_learner">@Paul P.</span> has reached level <strong>10</strong>. GG!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-913264031958184007 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=913264031958184007><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, November 25, 2021 4:05 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-913264031958184007>11/25/2021 4:05 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I can&#39;t figure out who named TIG/GTAW, TIG and both the search engine and my brain are suffering lol</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-913264078896656415 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=913264078896656415><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, November 25, 2021 4:05 AM">4:05 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>American Welding Society named it GTAW i guess</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-913264143971266670 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=913264143971266670><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, November 25, 2021 4:05 AM">4:05 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><em>but where did the name &quot;TIG&quot; come from, just people or what</em></span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-913264912741064754 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=913264912741064754><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/2-ADBB4.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=paulum3036 data-user-id=860212895501778954>Paulum</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, November 25, 2021 4:08 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-913264912741064754>11/25/2021 4:08 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Tungsten inert gas, a name upgrade from heliarc when the inert gas was helium. GTAW gas tungsten arc welding</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-913265627223982091 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=913265627223982091><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, November 25, 2021 4:11 AM">4:11 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gas_tungsten_arc_welding#%3A%7E%3Atext%3DMeredith_named_the_process_Heliarc%2Cinert_gas_welding_%28TIG%29.%26text%3DInitially%2C_the_electrode_overheated_quickly%2Cwere_transferred_to_the_weld.?wprov=sfla1">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gas_tungsten_arc_welding#%3A%7E%3Atext%3DMeredith_named_the_process_Heliarc%2Cinert_gas_welding_%28TIG%29.%26text%3DInitially%2C_the_electrode_overheated_quickly%2Cwere_transferred_to_the_weld.?wprov=sfla1</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gas_tungsten_arc_welding><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Gas tungsten arc welding</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Gas tungsten arc welding (GTAW), also known as tungsten inert gas (TIG) welding, is an arc welding process that uses a non-consumable tungsten electrode to produce the weld. The weld area and electrode are protected from oxidation or other atmospheric contamination by an inert shielding gas (argon or helium). A filler metal is normally used, tho...</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/1200px-US_Navy_090715-N-5821P-002_Aviation-4586F.jpg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/1200px-US_Navy_090715-N-5821P-002_Aviation-4586F.jpg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-913543453395288165 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=913543453395288165><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, November 25, 2021 10:35 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-913543453395288165>11/25/2021 10:35 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><em>I just realized that you can</em> <strong>Click and Drag Closed Captions in YouTube to Wherever You Want</strong></span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-913975112972263454 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=913975112972263454><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a67349d5204fa45d8d75ef87bae8aef7-C25C9.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=osrsupport6829 data-user-id=788915694997209123>-- osr-support --</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, November 27, 2021 3:10 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-913975112972263454>11/27/2021 3:10 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>lol, as usual - any discussion about Opensource hardware gets deleted on PreciousPlastic main server. That&#39;s somewhat astonishing considering that most of us (all gone anyways) came for Opensource but now it&#39;s controlled by proprietary and yet random trespassers, with zero contribs anywhere but censorship.
How&#39;s OSE doing actually? Didn&#39;t see many things except some workshops. Was wondering to consolidate related MediaWiki data into OSR...</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/xlog191-4065F.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/xlog191-4065F.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: xlog191.png (981.37 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-914397731265589328 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=914397731265589328><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/7ae59e77433a1eb8baae44b1e29c212a-6602D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/7ae59e77433a1eb8baae44b1e29c212a-6602D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=wesxdz>Wesxdz</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'909165539757289552')"> In terms of simulating the village, I was talking with Ken about how it would be possible to fund the GVCS research by selling NFTs for each machine to fund its development </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=wesxdz data-user-id=230472437265989635>Wesxdz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, November 28, 2021 7:10 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-914397731265589328>11/28/2021 7:10 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I think that making 3d animated shorts would be the most valuable technique to create a good aesthetic vision, of course this sort of stuff is heavy heavy labor intensive and I see the market as a winner takes all sort of scenario, so the time commitment might be on the order of 6-12 months for asset creation for a project like this</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/unknown-8F885.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/unknown-8F885.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: unknown.png (393.65 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=raised_hands><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=🙌 src=media-ose/1f64c-7C820.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>2</span></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-914398328182161438 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=914398328182161438><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, November 28, 2021 7:12 AM">7:12 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I looked into a lot of intentional communities, but most of them feel dated, moving back in time using less technology, low density and such</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-914404066489167872 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=914404066489167872><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/7ae59e77433a1eb8baae44b1e29c212a-6602D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=wesxdz data-user-id=230472437265989635>Wesxdz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, November 28, 2021 7:35 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-914404066489167872>11/28/2021 7:35 AM</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/unknown-22142.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/unknown-22142.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: unknown.png (584.24 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=heart_eyes><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=😍 src=media-ose/1f60d-BEAFF.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>2</span></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-914404724344770570 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=914404724344770570><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, November 28, 2021 7:37 AM">7:37 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>and actually I programmed a xbox controller to control the microtrack so it&#39;s not much of a stretch to think of the ose game as a simulation environment for learning...</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-914404846218645504 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=914404846218645504><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, November 28, 2021 7:38 AM">7:38 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>or actual controlling of physical hardware</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-914537036805996696 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=914537036805996696><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5f2e719a9dac42a723b1b51646b8a4b4-F9D26.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=life_long_learner data-user-id=827415572111032350>Paul P.</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, November 28, 2021 4:23 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-914537036805996696>11/28/2021 4:23 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Based on talking to @Jeff H#5597 ‘s direct experiences, Mennonites and other religious communities have created impressive automation for food production and building construction. My theory is that most of their customers are word-of-mouth. Interested if anyone knows more</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-914537294373978232 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=914537294373978232><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5f2e719a9dac42a723b1b51646b8a4b4-F9D26.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/7ae59e77433a1eb8baae44b1e29c212a-6602D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=wesxdz>Wesxdz</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'914404066489167872')"> <em>Click to see attachment</em> <span>🖼️</span> </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=life_long_learner data-user-id=827415572111032350>Paul P.</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, November 28, 2021 4:24 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-914537294373978232>11/28/2021 4:24 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>These are gorgeous! Did you remodel or import FreeCAD files into Blender?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-914539112260857876 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=914539112260857876><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5f2e719a9dac42a723b1b51646b8a4b4-F9D26.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/a67349d5204fa45d8d75ef87bae8aef7-C25C9.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=osrsupport6829>-- osr-support --</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'913975112972263454')"> lol, as usual - any discussion about Opensource hardware gets deleted on PreciousPlastic main server. That&#39;s somewhat astonishing considering that most of us (all gone anyways) came for Opensource but now it&#39;s controlled by proprietary and yet random trespassers, with zero contribs anywhere but censorship.
How&#39;s OSE doing actually? Didn&#39;t see many things except some workshops. Was wondering to consolidate related MediaWiki data into OSR... </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=life_long_learner data-user-id=827415572111032350>Paul P.</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, November 28, 2021 4:31 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-914539112260857876>11/28/2021 4:31 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>That’s sad to hear, but I think it’s expected for many businesses who want a competitive moat that widens over time, and where open source doesn’t help them deliver a better customer experience.
I agree the censorship seems unnecessary</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-914539469112242186 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=914539469112242186><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/2-ADBB4.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/7ae59e77433a1eb8baae44b1e29c212a-6602D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=wesxdz>Wesxdz</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'914398328182161438')"> I looked into a lot of intentional communities, but most of them feel dated, moving back in time using less technology, low density and such </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=paulum3036 data-user-id=860212895501778954>Paulum</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, November 28, 2021 4:33 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-914539469112242186>11/28/2021 4:33 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I agree with you. For some reason some people feel better in &quot;the good old times&quot; that were probably not all that good. The things that are here to work with to go forward are incredible but a lot of studying. The software and hardware electronic and machinery methods and capabilities available are mind blowing.... Just takes time for some people to embrace them. I hope you have success with your looking.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-914632317404860506 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=914632317404860506><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/7ae59e77433a1eb8baae44b1e29c212a-6602D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=wesxdz data-user-id=230472437265989635>Wesxdz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, November 28, 2021 10:42 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-914632317404860506>11/28/2021 10:42 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Here&#39;s a more official render</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/microtrac-8DB2D.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/microtrac-8DB2D.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: microtrac.png (3.21 MB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=heart_eyes><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=😍 src=media-ose/1f60d-BEAFF.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-914632416742756412 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=914632416742756412><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/7ae59e77433a1eb8baae44b1e29c212a-6602D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/5f2e719a9dac42a723b1b51646b8a4b4-F9D26.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=life_long_learner>Paul P.</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'914537294373978232')"> These are gorgeous! Did you remodel or import FreeCAD files into Blender? </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=wesxdz data-user-id=230472437265989635>Wesxdz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, November 28, 2021 10:42 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-914632416742756412>11/28/2021 10:42 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Yes FreeCAD bodies imported as obj</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-914701222945112094 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=914701222945112094><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, November 29, 2021 3:16 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-914701222945112094>11/29/2021 3:16 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Did i break OSE Wiki ?</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/Did_i_break_it.-8F507.PNG> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/Did_i_break_it.-8F507.PNG alt="Image attachment" title="Image: Did_i_break_it..PNG (178.79 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-914703727481487371 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=914703727481487371><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, November 29, 2021 3:26 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-914703727481487371>11/29/2021 3:26 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>nvm, it&#39;s working now, how odd</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-914730690472464404 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=914730690472464404><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/7ae59e77433a1eb8baae44b1e29c212a-6602D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=wesxdz data-user-id=230472437265989635>Wesxdz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, November 29, 2021 5:13 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-914730690472464404>11/29/2021 5:13 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>too many tabs Eric</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-914730786454925322 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=914730786454925322><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, November 29, 2021 5:13 AM">5:13 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>need a better way to transfer the information</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-914732527984459807 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=914732527984459807><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, November 29, 2021 5:20 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-914732527984459807>11/29/2021 5:20 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>lol</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-914732609869869106 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=914732609869869106><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, November 29, 2021 5:20 AM">5:20 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>currently trying to dump all the tabs i have on my phone into bookmarks/wiki pages</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Monday, November 29, 2021 5:21 AM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-914732771186970654 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=914732771186970654><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, November 29, 2021 5:21 AM">5:21 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Laptop ones will have to be for a different day</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-914732833803755560 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=914732833803755560><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, November 29, 2021 5:21 AM">5:21 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><em>luckily</em> those are more concentrated to specific topics</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-914732944457883708 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=914732944457883708><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, November 29, 2021 5:22 AM">5:22 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>my phone ones are from separate thoughts and full on separate days so it&#39;s <em>interesting</em></span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-914767418235187240 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=914767418235187240><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, November 29, 2021 7:39 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-914767418235187240>11/29/2021 7:39 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>1 ish local time and i <em>still</em> have more links to dump lol</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-914767663799103529 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=914767663799103529><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, November 29, 2021 7:40 AM">7:40 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Luckily i got most of them, only about probably 10 or so deserving of a wiki page, rest are just bookmarkable / things i need to more fully read/share</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-914767732426289152 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=914767732426289152><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, November 29, 2021 7:40 AM">7:40 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>but the tiredness is finally kicking so i&#39;m logging off</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-914767831390896179 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=914767831390896179><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, November 29, 2021 7:40 AM">7:40 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><s>also got welding school in the morning <em>and</em> it&#39;s testing week but that&#39;s beside the point</s></span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-917581123603820565 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=917581123603820565><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, December 7, 2021 1:59 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-917581123603820565>12/7/2021 1:59 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Haven&#39;t done the bend tests yet due to logistical mess / staff not being on the same page</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-917581174270992434 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=917581174270992434><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, December 7, 2021 1:59 AM">1:59 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Did do some TIG today which was neat !</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-917581350805049424 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=917581350805049424><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, December 7, 2021 2:00 AM">2:00 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>supposedly though moving on to MIG / FCAW as that is what was next, although the schedule has flip flopped a bunch of times, and TIG is harder so it makes sense to spend more time on it?</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Tuesday, December 7, 2021 2:00 AM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-917582266425831484 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=917582266425831484><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, December 7, 2021 2:04 AM">2:04 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I heard a bunch of terms/tools of interest i should document later from some Weld.com YouTube videos on TIG stuff</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-917593473052442674 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=917593473052442674><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/3-FB033.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze>Eric Lotze</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'917581350805049424')"> supposedly though moving on to MIG / FCAW as that is what was next, although the schedule has flip flopped a bunch of times, and TIG is harder so it makes sense to spend more time on it? </span> <span class=chatlog__reply-edited-timestamp title="Tuesday, December 7, 2021 2:00 AM">(edited)</span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=jeffh9531 data-user-id=861611319903387669>JeffH</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, December 7, 2021 2:48 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-917593473052442674>12/7/2021 2:48 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Learning to weld with oxygen/acetylene is an excellent way to build skills toward learning TIG. It is basically the same, you have a heat source in one hand and the filler rod in the other. TIG adds in using a foot pedal or sliding button on the torch to control the heat, particularly when starting and ending welds.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-917848402870538351 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=917848402870538351><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a67349d5204fa45d8d75ef87bae8aef7-C25C9.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/5f2e719a9dac42a723b1b51646b8a4b4-F9D26.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=life_long_learner>Paul P.</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'914539112260857876')"> That’s sad to hear, but I think it’s expected for many businesses who want a competitive moat that widens over time, and where open source doesn’t help them deliver a better customer experience.
I agree the censorship seems unnecessary </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=osrsupport6829 data-user-id=788915694997209123>-- osr-support --</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, December 7, 2021 7:41 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-917848402870538351>12/7/2021 7:41 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Yeah, something like that. To bad they fooled baited and everyone with Opensource. Now what&#180;s left are some proprietary and very toxic individuals, speaking on behalf of a few thousand lurkers, lol.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-922353927519891466 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=922353927519891466><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, December 20, 2021 6:05 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-922353927519891466>12/20/2021 6:05 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Is there any word on more <strong>telepresence </strong>these days? I was always a fan of &quot;RunMyRobot&quot;(Now Remo.tv), where strangers control bots you set up - this is definitely something that <em>should</em>, and will IMO, become a huge thing(and then normalized and chilled out).
I&#39;d love to be able to suggest a set of hardware/software for a willing friend to download so that I can be there, in semi-mobile robot form, from afar.
I think importantly it should have a self-charging port, speaker, and some kind of interface. Cam/mic sure, but with a very easy way to control permissions on the other end - messing up here is where I see primary problems.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-923427132602982431 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=923427132602982431><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5f2e719a9dac42a723b1b51646b8a4b4-F9D26.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=life_long_learner data-user-id=827415572111032350>Paul P.</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, December 23, 2021 5:09 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-923427132602982431>12/23/2021 5:09 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Happy holidays all ❄️ we have an open room at our hackbase-in-the-making in Detroit from Jan 1 - Jun 1st. We have a growing tool library and two OSE fans / alums (I’m one <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> who are working on open hardware projects / businesses.
If you or anyone you know would be interested in applying, please lmk (reply here or DM, all questions welcome)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-925151860904579162 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=925151860904579162><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a67349d5204fa45d8d75ef87bae8aef7-C25C9.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=osrsupport6829 data-user-id=788915694997209123>-- osr-support --</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, December 27, 2021 11:23 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-925151860904579162>12/27/2021 11:23 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>&#39;we have a growing tool library&#39;, mind to show off a little <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> ?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-925160810567835658 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=925160810567835658><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5f2e719a9dac42a723b1b51646b8a4b4-F9D26.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=life_long_learner data-user-id=827415572111032350>Paul P.</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, December 27, 2021 11:58 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-925160810567835658>12/27/2021 11:58 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Lol well it is a modest start, but thx to <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="yfgame">@yfgame</span> we have a working Voron 2.4 that is cranking out parts</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=eyes><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=👀 src=media-ose/1f440-6C64D.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-925161240597241947 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=925161240597241947><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/623f714c14c45bc7b732481f7021d307-E9312.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/5f2e719a9dac42a723b1b51646b8a4b4-F9D26.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=life_long_learner>Paul P.</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'925160810567835658')"> Lol well it is a modest start, but thx to <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="yfgame">@yfgame</span> we have a working Voron 2.4 that is cranking out parts </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=yfgame data-user-id=714607126927900673>yfgame</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, December 28, 2021 12:00 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-925161240597241947>12/28/2021 12:00 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Yeah,
I plan on making a google doc soon with pics!</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=heart><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=❤️ src=media-ose/2764-A3D25.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-925161295794282586 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=925161295794282586><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, December 28, 2021 12:00 AM">12:00 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>But if anyone wants to use anything, just come on over</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-925161310499504178 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=925161310499504178><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, December 28, 2021 12:00 AM">12:00 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--large"
alt="😃"
title="smiley"
src="media-ose/1f603-5E531.svg"></span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-925161734266839060 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=925161734266839060><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5f2e719a9dac42a723b1b51646b8a4b4-F9D26.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=life_long_learner data-user-id=827415572111032350>Paul P.</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, December 28, 2021 12:02 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-925161734266839060>12/28/2021 12:02 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>and mostly construction and house rehab tools and materials: circular saw, oscillating saw, hammer drill, tools for demolition, tapes, glues, protective equipment. Ratchet set
<a href="https://forum.detroitarcology.org/t/install-tool-shelves-in-basement/153">https://forum.detroitarcology.org/t/install-tool-shelves-in-basement/153</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(134,189,219,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://forum.detroitarcology.org/t/install-tool-shelves-in-basement/153><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Install tool shelves in basement</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">We are reaching max capacity of informally organizing tools in piles around the house. I propose building extra shelves from scrap plywood and OSB, held up by 2x4 pieces screwed into studs. Feel free to like this topic to upvote or prioritize, or likewise prioritize any other task with the backlog or doing tags. Even more strong then a “like...</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/3a05b4760b11d5c3cfd09167162d8b06f7accac4_2-55EC5.jpeg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/3a05b4760b11d5c3cfd09167162d8b06f7accac4_2-55EC5.jpeg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-925162434711388190 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=925162434711388190><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, December 28, 2021 12:05 AM">12:05 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>So far it focuses on things a new homeowner needs to terraform a Detroit house, because we’d like to export our approach in assembly line fashion to other homes in this neighborhood.
But we are open to requests, and we have attic, detached garage space, and basement for larger equipment like a future large bed CNC</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-925878378949673051 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=925878378949673051><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, December 29, 2021 11:30 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-925878378949673051>12/29/2021 11:30 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Dumping photos of a pencil sharpener gear i got to look for and buy a replacement for (that or CAD it up and get one printed) :</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-925878579013775420 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=925878579013775420><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, December 29, 2021 11:30 PM">11:30 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/IMG_5791-52E26.jpg> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/IMG_5791-52E26.jpg alt="Image attachment" title="Image: IMG_5791.jpg (1.33 MB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-925878630083596288 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=925878630083596288><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, December 29, 2021 11:31 PM">11:31 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/IMG_5800-8269C.jpg> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/IMG_5800-8269C.jpg alt="Image attachment" title="Image: IMG_5800.jpg (1.05 MB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-925878681338019890 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=925878681338019890><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, December 29, 2021 11:31 PM">11:31 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/IMG_5801-5325D.jpg> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/IMG_5801-5325D.jpg alt="Image attachment" title="Image: IMG_5801.jpg (1.12 MB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-925878767426080820 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=925878767426080820><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, December 29, 2021 11:31 PM">11:31 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/IMG_5803-D8590.jpg> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/IMG_5803-D8590.jpg alt="Image attachment" title="Image: IMG_5803.jpg (1.09 MB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-925878809838911528 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=925878809838911528><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, December 29, 2021 11:31 PM">11:31 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/IMG_5804-B381A.jpg> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/IMG_5804-B381A.jpg alt="Image attachment" title="Image: IMG_5804.jpg (1.08 MB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-925878944329265193 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=925878944329265193><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, December 29, 2021 11:32 PM">11:32 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Also “helpful” kitten</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/IMG_5799-466DE.jpg> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/IMG_5799-466DE.jpg alt="Image attachment" title="Image: IMG_5799.jpg (1.49 MB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-925879182095966298 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=925879182095966298><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, December 29, 2021 11:33 PM">11:33 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/IMG_5802-72B15.jpg> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/IMG_5802-72B15.jpg alt="Image attachment" title="Image: IMG_5802.jpg (1.06 MB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-925879439190020146 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=925879439190020146><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, December 29, 2021 11:34 PM">11:34 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>nvm</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-925879483884511252 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=925879483884511252><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, December 29, 2021 11:34 PM">11:34 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>that one was in inches in case the gear is in that measurement</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-925879518013554768 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=925879518013554768><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, December 29, 2021 11:34 PM">11:34 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>thought it was 20mm for a sec lol</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-925880598034255874 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=925880598034255874><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, December 29, 2021 11:38 PM">11:38 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><strong>welp went downstairs to grab it&#39;s name/model number; seems i forgot to grab that, turns out parents recently &quot;chucked it&quot;</strong></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-925880751919099915 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=925880751919099915><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, December 29, 2021 11:39 PM">11:39 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>&quot;single cheap gear broken? Time to landfill the entire thing and buy a brand new one!&quot;</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-925880796726845460 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=925880796726845460><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, December 29, 2021 11:39 PM">11:39 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>lovely mindset of suburbia i guess lol</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-925881643569410058 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=925881643569410058><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, December 29, 2021 11:43 PM">11:43 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>On another note:
Found this aggressively midwestern picture online from the recent tornadoes’ aftermath:
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-929135277174308864 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=929135277174308864><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/3-FB033.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title="Deleted User" data-user-id=456226577798135808>Deleted User</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, January 7, 2022 11:11 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-929135277174308864>1/7/2022 11:11 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>OSE&#39;s Bitcoin wallet holds 7.69 BTC <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-929135278034124900 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=929135278034124900><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/def5e0a7ff07e73d477a87df10a3dc4f-BFBB1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(153,45,34) title=Arcane#7800 data-user-id=437808476106784770>Arcane</span> <span class=chatlog__author-tag>BOT</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, January 7, 2022 11:11 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-929135278034124900>1/7/2022 11:11 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="Deleted User">@Deleted User</span> has reached level <strong>2</strong>. GG!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-939270715562164236 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=939270715562164236><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, February 4, 2022 10:26 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-939270715562164236>2/4/2022 10:26 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Currently being radicalized (if i wasn&#39;t already) against Textbook Companies</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-939270792569565265 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=939270792569565265><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, February 4, 2022 10:26 PM">10:26 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Just spent ~190USD (albeit parents are covering it, others have it worse, i don&#39;t want to be coming off all &quot;woe is me&quot;, <strong>anywho</strong>) on my welding school&#39;s textbook
That also came with the online code, which i&#39;m trying to get that entered right now</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-939270806050074644 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=939270806050074644><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, February 4, 2022 10:26 PM">10:26 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I have ~3 different corporation&#39;s software to go through (a l&#225; my JTA Experience) and now i&#39;m reading through their TOS:
<a href="https://www.g-w.com/terms">https://www.g-w.com/terms</a>
&quot;We reserve the right to withdraw or amend this Website, and any service or material we provide on the Website, in our sole discretion without notice. We will not be liable if for any reason all or any part of the Website is unavailable at any time or for any period. From time to time, we may restrict access to some parts of the Website, or the entire Website, to users, including registered users.&quot;
I swear if this book doesn&#39;t have some ancient magic written it, and just contains info i could grab from the many exitsting free resources i&#39;m going to loose it lol</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-939296664223641661 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=939296664223641661><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/623f714c14c45bc7b732481f7021d307-E9312.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze>Eric Lotze</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'939270715562164236')"> Currently being radicalized (if i wasn&#39;t already) against Textbook Companies </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=yfgame data-user-id=714607126927900673>yfgame</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, February 5, 2022 12:09 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-939296664223641661>2/5/2022 12:09 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>True true!
I went through the same thing!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-939335585426968676 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=939335585426968676><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/2-ADBB4.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=paulum3036 data-user-id=860212895501778954>Paulum</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, February 5, 2022 2:44 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-939335585426968676>2/5/2022 2:44 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Unfortunately the ins do their best to keep the outs out. A friend while doing PhD studies had a prof that said just put the book you bought somewhere and proceeded to bring in copies of sometimes 100 year old text books to teach the class. I am finding the same with working on math now... What I was taught in school was meant to be boring, slow and at least for me not understandable. The internet really is nice in this way. Hang in and out live them. You will prevail with time and perseverance.<img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-939362570043793459 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=939362570043793459><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=ownerofown data-user-id=196527868417802240>OwnerOfOwn</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, February 5, 2022 4:31 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-939362570043793459>2/5/2022 4:31 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I just found 5 errors in my chemistry workbook from this weeks homework. Might start a textbook company if they let this shit fly in schools across the country</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-939565513015717978 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=939565513015717978><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/d398db1f5744d92bef80fe21e0f01b65-114F0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=ownerofown>OwnerOfOwn</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'939362570043793459')"> I just found 5 errors in my chemistry workbook from this weeks homework. Might start a textbook company if they let this shit fly in schools across the country </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, February 5, 2022 5:57 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-939565513015717978>2/5/2022 5:57 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>There is an Open Source one somewhere, i have a page on it</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-939565807405498399 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=939565807405498399><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, February 5, 2022 5:59 PM">5:59 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>ESPECIALLY for basic Math/Chemistry; <em>Basic Algebra hasn&#39;t changed much since the time it was invented in the Islamic Golden Age</em>, so the books don&#39;t need to much either!</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-939565893380345886 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=939565893380345886><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, February 5, 2022 5:59 PM">5:59 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I can get the need for rapidly changing fields etc, but for stuff like that it is ridiculous</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-939567779860856842 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=939567779860856842><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5f2e719a9dac42a723b1b51646b8a4b4-F9D26.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=life_long_learner data-user-id=827415572111032350>Paul P.</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, February 5, 2022 6:06 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-939567779860856842>2/5/2022 6:06 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>It’s true academic publishing can be a scam. Professors get free samples from companies to assign it to their students, who then have to spend thousands of dollars. And sometimes it’s the professor’s own textbook so it’s royalties until the pocket! So incentives are not aligned. So they pirate PDFs online, or buy international version which sells overseas for a fraction of the U.S. cost.
Knowledge on the internet has really changed things. I agree, you just need to exercise your own judgment if who to trust, but you can learn almost anything from YouTube and khanacademy etc, except maybe brain surgery</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=100><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=💯 src=media-ose/1f4af-4CFF5.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-943561394840830012 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=943561394840830012><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/3-FB033.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze>Eric Lotze</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'939565807405498399')"> ESPECIALLY for basic Math/Chemistry; <em>Basic Algebra hasn&#39;t changed much since the time it was invented in the Islamic Golden Age</em>, so the books don&#39;t need to much either! </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title="Deleted User" data-user-id=456226577798135808>Deleted User</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, February 16, 2022 6:36 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-943561394840830012>2/16/2022 6:36 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://openstax.org/">https://openstax.org/</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(0,15,255,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://openstax.org/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">OpenStax</div></a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-943561613024296991 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=943561613024296991><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/3-FB033.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title="Deleted User" data-user-id=456226577798135808>Deleted User</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, February 16, 2022 6:36 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-943561613024296991>2/16/2022 6:36 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://open.umn.edu/opentextbooks">https://open.umn.edu/opentextbooks</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,255,255,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://open.umn.edu/opentextbooks><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Open Textbook Library</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Open textbooks are licensed by authors and publishers to be freely used and adapted. Download, edit and distribute them at no cost.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-945121438891900929 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=945121438891900929><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, February 21, 2022 1:55 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-945121438891900929>2/21/2022 1:55 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Thanks!</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-945121492872605697 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=945121492872605697><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, February 21, 2022 1:55 AM">1:55 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I somehow forgot about that / to grab the wiki link for it!</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-945121596614516776 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=945121596614516776><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, February 21, 2022 1:55 AM">1:55 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Do you have experience with all that yourself? I don&#39;t have any myself!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-946945518960017438 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=946945518960017438><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/1018a44bc0a20f4151542e27fd301393-7381C.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=mossdew5210 data-user-id=802658250607951873>Mossdew</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, February 26, 2022 2:43 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-946945518960017438>2/26/2022 2:43 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Status report? Has <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="nohbdyahtall">@Nohbdy Ahtall</span> been active here? He&#39;s invested in the knowledge of humanity in one package thing.
Does anyone here have a suggested &quot;care package&quot; of information? Basically, the type of information Open Source Ecology specializes in.
As a cybercivilization founder, I&#39;d like to have a few resources to pass around for those who could make use of it. The wiki site is included, of course.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-947675902492430446 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=947675902492430446><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/1018a44bc0a20f4151542e27fd301393-7381C.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=mossdew5210>Mossdew</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'946945518960017438')"> Status report? Has <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="nohbdyahtall">@Nohbdy Ahtall</span> been active here? He&#39;s invested in the knowledge of humanity in one package thing.
Does anyone here have a suggested &quot;care package&quot; of information? Basically, the type of information Open Source Ecology specializes in.
As a cybercivilization founder, I&#39;d like to have a few resources to pass around for those who could make use of it. The wiki site is included, of course. </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, February 28, 2022 3:05 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-947675902492430446>2/28/2022 3:05 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Heyyy, no I haven&#39;t been here hah, I should! I&#39;m afraid I&#39;m way behind in knowledge curation as well. I&#39;ll give you a Guilded message sometime, but yeh still busy lookin&#39; for a job to prevent ye ol&#39; homelessness scenario. X.x</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-950807546023780403 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=950807546023780403><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5f2e719a9dac42a723b1b51646b8a4b4-F9D26.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=life_long_learner data-user-id=827415572111032350>Paul P.</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, March 8, 2022 6:29 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-950807546023780403>3/8/2022 6:29 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>If anyone is in Montreal and would like to live with / spend some time with other hackers and makers, my friend Max has two rooms in his e-space / cafe-loft
Very flexible terms, and he&#39;s an amazing livecoder and works on laser and light installations for algoraves. Might be a good opportunity to work on some open source hardware as well. I&#39;d like to travel up from Detroit and visit myself!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-950808133104697384 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=950808133104697384><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5f2e719a9dac42a723b1b51646b8a4b4-F9D26.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall>Nohbdy Ahtall</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'947675902492430446')"> Heyyy, no I haven&#39;t been here hah, I should! I&#39;m afraid I&#39;m way behind in knowledge curation as well. I&#39;ll give you a Guilded message sometime, but yeh still busy lookin&#39; for a job to prevent ye ol&#39; homelessness scenario. X.x </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=life_long_learner data-user-id=827415572111032350>Paul P.</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, March 8, 2022 6:32 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-950808133104697384>3/8/2022 6:32 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>i&#39;ve been missing your input as well. what kind of work are you looking for? i think we can all relate, and keep an eye out <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-950808432225714197 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=950808432225714197><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5f2e719a9dac42a723b1b51646b8a4b4-F9D26.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/1018a44bc0a20f4151542e27fd301393-7381C.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=mossdew5210>Mossdew</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'946945518960017438')"> Status report? Has <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="nohbdyahtall">@Nohbdy Ahtall</span> been active here? He&#39;s invested in the knowledge of humanity in one package thing.
Does anyone here have a suggested &quot;care package&quot; of information? Basically, the type of information Open Source Ecology specializes in.
As a cybercivilization founder, I&#39;d like to have a few resources to pass around for those who could make use of it. The wiki site is included, of course. </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=life_long_learner data-user-id=827415572111032350>Paul P.</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, March 8, 2022 6:33 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-950808432225714197>3/8/2022 6:33 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>dang, now i&#39;m curious what a cyber civilization is</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-951248874775920690 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=951248874775920690><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/5f2e719a9dac42a723b1b51646b8a4b4-F9D26.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=life_long_learner>Paul P.</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'950808133104697384')"> i&#39;ve been missing your input as well. what kind of work are you looking for? i think we can all relate, and keep an eye out <img
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IT or DevOps is even on my mind, with IT being closer in reach, but I expect these opportunities might only come from within Help Desk and being given a chance from within the same company.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-951253717368320050 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=951253717368320050><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, March 10, 2022 12:02 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-951253717368320050>3/10/2022 12:02 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Ooh I&#39;ve talked with Mossdew heavily about the Cyber Civilization thing, so we&#39;re on the same page. It&#39;s currently like a club or guild, but instead of in one game it&#39;s in.. well, all of them potentially? Nearly any multiplayer world especially with &quot;player-owned&quot; stuff like castles or towns. EVE Online has some of the best in-game infrastructure with its corp/alliance/economy thing, so imagine it going &quot;that deep/complex&quot; but across multiple games.
The interlinking playerbases are a major part of it too, like that whole &quot;layer&quot; of &quot;in-between games&quot; itself, with the game worlds acting as the ground floor for all the action. Economy-wise, some members could do stuff in game A, but get rewarded in game B, C, and D whether it be support roles, logistics, in-game items/currency, etc(no real money handling here thankfully, else I&#39;d be uninterested). Lots of experiments around that, potentially bringing larger masses of players to more obscure or unpopular games like MUDs.
It&#39;s quite trippy, I could talk about it all day. Whew, there&#39;s a lot of potential, I think. I shared nearly any idea I&#39;ve had on the concept(because I had a similar concept in mind but for my game development club project) with Mossdew, so it&#39;s exciting to see any progress get made.</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-951254904943546409 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=951254904943546409><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, March 10, 2022 12:07 AM">12:07 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Oh yeah, here you go: <a href="https://www.guilded.gg/Mossdew/blog/MHQ-A/Mossdew-Cybernauts-Cyberconstructs-What-is-this">https://www.guilded.gg/Mossdew/blog/MHQ-A/Mossdew-Cybernauts-Cyberconstructs-What-is-this</a> That hasn&#39;t been updated in a while it seems, but that covers a bit.</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.guilded.gg/Mossdew/blog/MHQ-A/Mossdew-Cybernauts-Cyberconstructs-What-is-this><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Mossdew, Cybernauts, Cyberconstructs - What is this? - MHQ-A - Moss...</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Mossdew, also known as Mossdew Club and shortened to MD, is a cybercivilization made up of cybernauts and inhabits cyberterritories. Despite the over-used &quot;c... • Created by Mossdew • Created December 25th 2021</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/1024-gold-EA9DF.png> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/1024-gold-EA9DF.png alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-951826326694805554 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=951826326694805554><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/3-FB033.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze>Eric Lotze</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'945121596614516776')"> Do you have experience with all that yourself? I don&#39;t have any myself! </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title="Deleted User" data-user-id=456226577798135808>Deleted User</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, March 11, 2022 1:58 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-951826326694805554>3/11/2022 1:58 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I have used openstax for chemistry, &amp; own their hardbound Statistics book. They are good. I don&#39;t see why all public education doesn&#39;t use them other than the 10%&#39;s back room deals with Pearson.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-975400207644753990 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=975400207644753990><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/af3baf9e542f82809d854763deb81943-42092.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=peoplefirst. data-user-id=740625002449207388>American Fascism</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, May 15, 2022 4:12 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-975400207644753990>5/15/2022 4:12 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>nailed, <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@modern_parents_uk/video/7091207592155827462">https://www.tiktok.com/@modern_parents_uk/video/7091207592155827462</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(254,44,85,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.tiktok.com/@modern_parents_uk/video/7091207592155827462><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Philip Dodd on TikTok</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">The virus affecting men that is sweeping the globe. #modernwarriorbrotherhood #virus #boredominduceddepression #createdonttake #passion</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/45358889260b4f3dbcc64c8c4d3b9adc_165105043-ACAB3.jpeg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/45358889260b4f3dbcc64c8c4d3b9adc_165105043-ACAB3.jpeg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-980638112197787678 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=980638112197787678><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, May 30, 2022 3:05 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-980638112197787678>5/30/2022 3:05 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Not to be <em>political</em> hah, but this is perhaps leaning more parliamentry procedure, or maybe actual Political Science? Iono, what think you? I&#39;ve been studying Communalism, Libertarian Municipalism, and Democratic Confederalism and how it could be applied to virtual societies(or relation to managing my club). Anyhow, those topics are worth a look at, but I found this interesting thing too: Histocracy <a href="http://histocracy.com/">http://histocracy.com/</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href="http://histocracy.com/author/kelly/"><div class=chatlog__embed-author>kelly</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="http://histocracy.com/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">This website is dedicated to histocracy, a system of government tha...</div></a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-980922084517634058 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=980922084517634058><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/af3baf9e542f82809d854763deb81943-42092.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall>Nohbdy Ahtall</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'980638112197787678')"> Not to be <em>political</em> hah, but this is perhaps leaning more parliamentry procedure, or maybe actual Political Science? Iono, what think you? I&#39;ve been studying Communalism, Libertarian Municipalism, and Democratic Confederalism and how it could be applied to virtual societies(or relation to managing my club). Anyhow, those topics are worth a look at, but I found this interesting thing too: Histocracy <a href="http://histocracy.com/">http://histocracy.com/</a> </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=peoplefirst. data-user-id=740625002449207388>American Fascism</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, May 30, 2022 9:54 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-980922084517634058>5/30/2022 9:54 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Great you bring that up - good thoughts in there - after all the mess seen on all levels and directions, I am back leaning toward AI controlled resource allocation - predicted by my much hated physic teacher 30 years ago, well - and Zeitgeist&#39;s technocrats ... <img
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<a href="https://matduggan.com/programming-in-the/">https://matduggan.com/programming-in-the/</a> - still puzzled about it but I guess they will leave it running up the wall - if they can build them that high <img
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src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Monday, May 30, 2022 9:55 PM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://matduggan.com/programming-in-the/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Programming in the Apocalypse</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">A climate change what-if Over a few beers...Growing up, I was obsessed with space. Like many tech workers, I consumed everything I could find about space and space travel. Young me was convinced we were on the verge of space travel, imagining I would live to see colonies on</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/imageonline-co-placeholder-image-2E3BD.jpg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/imageonline-co-placeholder-image-2E3BD.jpg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-980922240315064350 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=980922240315064350><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, May 30, 2022 9:54 PM">9:54 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>hn comments : <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31559920">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31559920</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,102,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><div class=chatlog__embed-author>drewbug01</div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31559920"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Programming in the Apocalypse</div></a></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-footer><img class=chatlog__embed-footer-icon src=media-ose/y18-27627.gif alt="Footer icon" loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__embed-footer-text> Hacker News • 5/30/2022 5:16 PM </span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-982176759204151348 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=982176759204151348><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, June 3, 2022 8:59 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-982176759204151348>6/3/2022 8:59 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://youtu.be/gefKod-IJrQ">https://youtu.be/gefKod-IJrQ</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7E01VQ8pgkN-ezEa-2wdfg><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Infinite Flow</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gefKod-IJrQ"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Terence Mckenna - Intelligence, Evil and Ignorance</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/gefKod-IJrQ width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-983116877456871564 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=983116877456871564><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, June 5, 2022 11:15 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-983116877456871564>6/5/2022 11:15 PM</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/unknown-6B0AC.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/unknown-6B0AC.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: unknown.png (1.59 MB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=thumbsup><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=👍 src=media-ose/1f44d-27259.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-983811287131754496 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=983811287131754496><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/af3baf9e542f82809d854763deb81943-42092.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall>Nohbdy Ahtall</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'982176759204151348')"> <a href="https://youtu.be/gefKod-IJrQ">https://youtu.be/gefKod-IJrQ</a> </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=peoplefirst. data-user-id=740625002449207388>American Fascism</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, June 7, 2022 9:14 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-983811287131754496>6/7/2022 9:14 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>nice catch, the second half of the vid was bit weird/off but for the rest of it - nailed.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-985005013929721906 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=985005013929721906><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, June 11, 2022 4:18 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-985005013929721906>6/11/2022 4:18 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="mossdew5210">@Mossdew</span> Whoah, you&#39;ve been wayy more active recently and I see you around often suddenly! Sorry if I haven&#39;t done too much on the Guilded server :3 I am still doing all kinds of MD0 license discussion! Often using your cyberciv as an example, hard not to xD</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-985006320564461652 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=985006320564461652><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/1018a44bc0a20f4151542e27fd301393-7381C.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall>Nohbdy Ahtall</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'985005013929721906')"> <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="mossdew5210">@Mossdew</span> Whoah, you&#39;ve been wayy more active recently and I see you around often suddenly! Sorry if I haven&#39;t done too much on the Guilded server :3 I am still doing all kinds of MD0 license discussion! Often using your cyberciv as an example, hard not to xD </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=mossdew5210 data-user-id=802658250607951873>Mossdew</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, June 11, 2022 4:23 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-985006320564461652>6/11/2022 4:23 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>You&#39;ve done more than most. Ideas are more than enough, and you share plenty. That includes those two images you sent over, they make a great avatar placeholder for freshly joined cybernauts. Did you hear one more is coming on-board, Bunfertross?
Any progress on your idea for a game using OSE equipment?</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Saturday, June 11, 2022 4:23 AM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-985006322883911710 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=985006322883911710><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/def5e0a7ff07e73d477a87df10a3dc4f-BFBB1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(153,45,34) title=Arcane#7800 data-user-id=437808476106784770>Arcane</span> <span class=chatlog__author-tag>BOT</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, June 11, 2022 4:23 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-985006322883911710>6/11/2022 4:23 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="mossdew5210">@Mossdew</span> has reached level <strong>2</strong>. GG!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-985006811436441600 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=985006811436441600><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/1018a44bc0a20f4151542e27fd301393-7381C.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=mossdew5210>Mossdew</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'985006320564461652')"> You&#39;ve done more than most. Ideas are more than enough, and you share plenty. That includes those two images you sent over, they make a great avatar placeholder for freshly joined cybernauts. Did you hear one more is coming on-board, Bunfertross?
Any progress on your idea for a game using OSE equipment? </span> <span class=chatlog__reply-edited-timestamp title="Saturday, June 11, 2022 4:23 AM">(edited)</span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, June 11, 2022 4:25 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-985006811436441600>6/11/2022 4:25 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Sounds familiar but not really. Ohh gahh yes that idea - ultimately inspired by the Powercube most of all! Whellp, I&#39;ve been learning Godot more these days (using the alpha versions, alpha 9 is out), buut no real progress, it is very fun to learn though. Lack of tutorials, but great documentation. You should check it out, I&#39;m considering it for non-game functions, such a good UI system, I think!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-985018102628638830 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=985018102628638830><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/389391b6e473017dfbb64eeab1a8d996-C4AF5.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=mitchell9048 data-user-id=367421464904990721>mitchell</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, June 11, 2022 5:10 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-985018102628638830>6/11/2022 5:10 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I&#39;ve been learning Flutter lately for game dev</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-985018201404506112 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=985018201404506112><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, June 11, 2022 5:10 AM">5:10 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I want to make a 2d arena game with mesh networking</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Saturday, June 11, 2022 5:10 AM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-985019178350166067 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=985019178350166067><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, June 11, 2022 5:14 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-985019178350166067>6/11/2022 5:14 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Mesh networking! Ahhh... reminds me of Worlds Adrift, as they needed SpatialOS to work.
And of course, they couldn&#39;t afford the costs, and so the whole thing is gone, my favorite online game haha.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-985024174097584208 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=985024174097584208><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/389391b6e473017dfbb64eeab1a8d996-C4AF5.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=mitchell9048 data-user-id=367421464904990721>mitchell</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, June 11, 2022 5:34 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-985024174097584208>6/11/2022 5:34 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>yeah, mesh networking is hard</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-985024311087730758 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=985024311087730758><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, June 11, 2022 5:34 AM">5:34 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>but the payoff will be enormous</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-985025320237297684 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=985025320237297684><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, June 11, 2022 5:38 AM">5:38 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>you&#39;re thinking of making a game based on OSE equipment?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-985029213767729194 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=985029213767729194><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/389391b6e473017dfbb64eeab1a8d996-C4AF5.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=mitchell9048 data-user-id=367421464904990721>mitchell</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, June 11, 2022 5:54 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-985029213767729194>6/11/2022 5:54 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>there&#39;s another game developer on Discord also working on mesh networking for Flutter</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-985036643520106566 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=985036643520106566><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/389391b6e473017dfbb64eeab1a8d996-C4AF5.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=mitchell9048>mitchell</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'985025320237297684')"> you&#39;re thinking of making a game based on OSE equipment? </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, June 11, 2022 6:23 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-985036643520106566>6/11/2022 6:23 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I think I&#39;d need to be extra extra sure that I can make, for example, <em>CC0</em> licensed content(assets, the game itself maybe) while portraying OSE equipment. I&#39;ve always had this idea before OSE ever existed, and just kinda &quot;winging it&quot; with what the machines might actually be, but I&#39;d prefer if those playing it would gain interest in a real-world project.
Of course, since then there&#39;s been minecraft factorio and a huge assortment of similar concepts, unsure if any of them have really nailed what I have in mind though. Maybe the game &quot;Eco&quot; comes closest? Eh, needs more respect for space exploration/habitats(Dyson Sphere Project maybe comes close then? Not intending to be so Factorio-like though either).</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-985037194534199326 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=985037194534199326><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, June 11, 2022 6:26 AM">6:26 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>OH I forgot, one idea was actually to not even release certain machines in the game <em>until they exist in real life</em>, so maybe anyone interested in the game&#39;s machinery progress would be reflected by what reality had to offer. Maybe leading to participation in OSE&#39;s progress hah.</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-985037360850931742 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=985037360850931742><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, June 11, 2022 6:26 AM">6:26 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>&quot;Hey Nohbdy, can you upgrade the Powercube?&quot;
&quot;Yes, as soon as that upgrade happens in OSE&quot; xD</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-985037646369792030 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=985037646369792030><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/389391b6e473017dfbb64eeab1a8d996-C4AF5.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=mitchell9048 data-user-id=367421464904990721>mitchell</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, June 11, 2022 6:27 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-985037646369792030>6/11/2022 6:27 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>what is Powercube?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-985037776569397268 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=985037776569397268><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, June 11, 2022 6:28 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-985037776569397268>6/11/2022 6:28 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://youtu.be/B3wC5ukAYA4">https://youtu.be/B3wC5ukAYA4</a> OSE&#39;s Powercube, part of the GVCS! Here&#39;s a lovely video</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjvBN1r7UXXqmIbx_u7bIAw><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Marcin Jakubowski</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3wC5ukAYA4"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Powercube v7 Assembly by Open Source Ecology</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/B3wC5ukAYA4 width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-985037836703113237 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=985037836703113237><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, June 11, 2022 6:28 AM">6:28 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I love the modularity aspect of it.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-986484038279761951 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=986484038279761951><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, June 15, 2022 6:15 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-986484038279761951>6/15/2022 6:15 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I call this the... er... chicken-farmhand:</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/unknown-3F09A.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/unknown-3F09A.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: unknown.png (201.88 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-986868020318175252 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=986868020318175252><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, June 16, 2022 7:41 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-986868020318175252>6/16/2022 7:41 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Is that that keyboard thing?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-986878662320193546 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=986878662320193546><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze>Eric Lotze</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'986868020318175252')"> Is that that keyboard thing? </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, June 16, 2022 8:23 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-986878662320193546>6/16/2022 8:23 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Yes! &quot;Azeron Cyborg Compact&quot; specifically, newest one. I just ordered one, so I&#39;ll have first-hand experience at some point now - and believe me, I&#39;m thinking &quot;tools&quot; over games. Blender, Krita, and who knows what else. Here&#39;s the color scheme I got(which did not cost extra, if you customize specific things that don&#39;t add to it):</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/unknown-E8216.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/unknown-E8216.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: unknown.png (146.59 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-986878766909382716 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=986878766909382716><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, June 16, 2022 8:23 AM">8:23 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Also, way too much fun was had using their customization tool <a href="https://store.azeron.eu/customize">https://store.azeron.eu/customize</a></span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-986897653759635536 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=986897653759635536><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, June 16, 2022 9:38 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-986897653759635536>6/16/2022 9:38 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I saw something on Open Source Stenography Stuff, and i&#39;ve been meaning to document that</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-986897768687759392 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=986897768687759392><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, June 16, 2022 9:39 AM">9:39 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Main application was <em>damn fast</em> typing, but also for conversational shit like <em>i&#39;m doing right now</em>; it seemed neat</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-986897851890139226 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=986897851890139226><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, June 16, 2022 9:39 AM">9:39 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><em>ALSO</em> on the note of Blender and Stuff</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-986897932408205353 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=986897932408205353><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, June 16, 2022 9:40 AM">9:40 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I found an open source &quot;Space Mouse&quot; type thing for CAD/6DOF in general</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-986897968688930816 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=986897968688930816><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, June 16, 2022 9:40 AM">9:40 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Also i want to make some shit like this someday:</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-986898065225052191 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=986898065225052191><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, June 16, 2022 9:40 AM">9:40 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/unknown-0F10B.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/unknown-0F10B.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: unknown.png (1.93 MB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-986898149606064188 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=986898149606064188><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, June 16, 2022 9:40 AM">9:40 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>or even</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-986898152982466562 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=986898152982466562><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, June 16, 2022 9:40 AM">9:40 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/unknown-B0E58.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/unknown-B0E58.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: unknown.png (501.52 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-986898218749145110 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=986898218749145110><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, June 16, 2022 9:41 AM">9:41 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>This isn&#39;t a color grading panel; this is an <em>advanced</em> color grading panel lol</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-990009135527526410 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=990009135527526410><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/3-FB033.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title="Deleted User" data-user-id=456226577798135808>Deleted User</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, June 24, 2022 11:42 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-990009135527526410>6/24/2022 11:42 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Hi, not sure where to post this, my be a new channel &#39;osr-plastic&#39; or so, however - we keep pumping micro articles about machining, recycling, etc...
let&#39;s start with drilling equipment - still busy completing the system with completion of smart amazon, google links, ...
<a href="https://forum.osr-plastic.org/t/drill-press-equipment/8449">https://forum.osr-plastic.org/t/drill-press-equipment/8449</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(0,121,107,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://forum.osr-plastic.org/t/drill-press-equipment/8449><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Drill Press Equipment</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">1. Semi-professional drilling equipment The drill-press is one of the more important machine in a metal workshop. Don’t save money here! It has to be big and heavy - for safety reasons. Cheap CNC vise (250 Euro) - mostly used for small parts and drilling series ‘123 blocks’ - used for holding small parts with bolts Drillpress table’s t-sl...</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/1fcffbcf457caa8b8fd1daa098b7bd15f0223f32_2-4F106.jpeg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/1fcffbcf457caa8b8fd1daa098b7bd15f0223f32_2-4F106.jpeg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-990355280288174180 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=990355280288174180><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/af3baf9e542f82809d854763deb81943-42092.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=peoplefirst. data-user-id=740625002449207388>American Fascism</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, June 25, 2022 10:38 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-990355280288174180>6/25/2022 10:38 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Last footage of PP/PH/OSR Low-Tech, another project ruined by PreciousPlastic Mafia, congrats <img
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<a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@plastichub7/video/7113209692037451014?is_copy_url=1&amp;is_from_webapp=v1&amp;lang=en">https://www.tiktok.com/@plastichub7/video/7113209692037451014?is_copy_url=1&amp;is_from_webapp=v1&amp;lang=en</a>
If you&#39;ve got any questions about, be my guest</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(254,44,85,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.tiktok.com/@plastichub7/video/7113209692037451014?is_copy_url=1&amp;is_from_webapp=v1&amp;lang=en"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">plastichub7 on TikTok</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">#PlasticHub / #PreciousPlastic Machines</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/208e1770600d4980ba06430ea036b861_165617319-99734.jpeg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/208e1770600d4980ba06430ea036b861_165617319-99734.jpeg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-991532673573060728 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=991532673573060728><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, June 29, 2022 4:36 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-991532673573060728>6/29/2022 4:36 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://youtu.be/87JJ7WkRpLc">https://youtu.be/87JJ7WkRpLc</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7c1iZQpR8_mct1tCKcjWcw><div class=chatlog__embed-author>quadmovr</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87JJ7WkRpLc"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">8 kW per kg | This is how it sounds | Drone ASMR</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/87JJ7WkRpLc width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-993271872382849076 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=993271872382849076><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, July 3, 2022 11:47 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-993271872382849076>7/3/2022 11:47 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I&#39;ve decided upon a new short phrase to utilize for people&#39;s ideas:
<div class="chatlog__markdown-quote"><div class="chatlog__markdown-quote-border"></div><div class="chatlog__markdown-quote-content">If it&#39;s <strong>proprietary</strong>, I wish you <strong>failure</strong>. If it&#39;s <strong>open</strong>, I wish you <strong>success</strong>.</div></div></span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-993273714785390592 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=993273714785390592><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/af3baf9e542f82809d854763deb81943-42092.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall>Nohbdy Ahtall</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'993271872382849076')"> I&#39;ve decided upon a new short phrase to utilize for people&#39;s ideas:
<div class="chatlog__markdown-quote"><div class="chatlog__markdown-quote-border"></div><div class="chatlog__markdown-quote-content">If it&#39;s <strong>proprietary</strong>, I wish you <strong>failure</strong>. If it&#39;s <strong>open</strong>, I wish you <strong>success</strong>.</div></div> </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=peoplefirst. data-user-id=740625002449207388>American Fascism</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, July 3, 2022 11:55 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-993273714785390592>7/3/2022 11:55 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>that should be moved to <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention">#open-source-memes</span> IMO. Not going down that rabbit hole but nothing really changed, top #100 tech firms keep dictating it, protocols, or whatever you need to call it #success ...</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-993273715817205872 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=993273715817205872><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/def5e0a7ff07e73d477a87df10a3dc4f-BFBB1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(153,45,34) title=Arcane#7800 data-user-id=437808476106784770>Arcane</span> <span class=chatlog__author-tag>BOT</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, July 3, 2022 11:55 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-993273715817205872>7/3/2022 11:55 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="peoplefirst.">@American Fascism</span> has reached level <strong>4</strong>. GG!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-993274175999459441 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=993274175999459441><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/af3baf9e542f82809d854763deb81943-42092.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=peoplefirst.>American Fascism</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'993273714785390592')"> that should be moved to <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention">#open-source-memes</span> IMO. Not going down that rabbit hole but nothing really changed, top #100 tech firms keep dictating it, protocols, or whatever you need to call it #success ... </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, July 3, 2022 11:56 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-993274175999459441>7/3/2022 11:56 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>True, but - I must say this is perhaps the most critical I&#39;ve seen of the world towards all kinds of systemic problems. I still think technology is often treated as the &quot;invisible people doing stuff&quot;, so that&#39;s the main hurdle, but I do see a wonderful surge towards radically ousting corporatocracies, the concept of success, and much more.
We&#39;ll seee!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-993274409492156576 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=993274409492156576><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/af3baf9e542f82809d854763deb81943-42092.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=peoplefirst. data-user-id=740625002449207388>American Fascism</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, July 3, 2022 11:57 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-993274409492156576>7/3/2022 11:57 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Nice food to get sleep and rest my friend, amen</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-995182366941270016 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=995182366941270016><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, July 9, 2022 6:19 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-995182366941270016>7/9/2022 6:19 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://youtu.be/kbnTKuIOTdw">https://youtu.be/kbnTKuIOTdw</a> Huh, this gave me some quick basic aerodynamics realizations, nice.</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq2rNse2XX4Rjzmldv9GqrQ><div class=chatlog__embed-author>rctestflight</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbnTKuIOTdw"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">RAM Effect Vehicle - A New Type of Aircraft?</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/kbnTKuIOTdw width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-995188112370176000 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=995188112370176000><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall>Nohbdy Ahtall</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'995182366941270016')"> <a href="https://youtu.be/kbnTKuIOTdw">https://youtu.be/kbnTKuIOTdw</a> Huh, this gave me some quick basic aerodynamics realizations, nice. </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, July 9, 2022 6:42 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-995188112370176000>7/9/2022 6:42 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Also (and this is probably highly <strong>on-topic</strong> so maybe I&#39;ll look for where this would fit in wiki) the guy used &quot;K-705&quot; to waterproof - which, since I had Obsidian.md ready I wanted to check it out, make some notes, and found this:
<a href="https://youtu.be/WkyHEI0-xPw">https://youtu.be/WkyHEI0-xPw</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdXHgsCiql_78oT5ydXWvzA><div class=chatlog__embed-author>VoltLog</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkyHEI0-xPw"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Testing Kafuter Adhesives For Electronics | Voltlog #331</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/WkyHEI0-xPw width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-995295033316089896 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=995295033316089896><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/af3baf9e542f82809d854763deb81943-42092.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=peoplefirst. data-user-id=740625002449207388>American Fascism</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, July 9, 2022 1:47 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-995295033316089896>7/9/2022 1:47 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Now let&#39;s repeat that study on Discord messages. <a href="https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2102061118#fig03">https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2102061118#fig03</a></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Saturday, July 9, 2022 1:47 PM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2102061118><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">PNAS</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (PNAS), a peer reviewed journal of the National Academy of Sciences (NAS) - an authoritative source of high-impact, original research that broadly spans the biological, physical, and social sciences.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1002490882659975249 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1002490882659975249><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, July 29, 2022 10:20 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1002490882659975249>7/29/2022 10:20 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Just checkin&#39; in on ye ol&#39; <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="ericlotze">@Eric Lotze</span> - I hope all is well! Miss the Eric!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1004481519328448533 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1004481519328448533><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, August 3, 2022 10:10 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1004481519328448533>8/3/2022 10:10 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://youtu.be/CTsfWLMO4ho">https://youtu.be/CTsfWLMO4ho</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrr7y8rEXb7_RiVniwvzk9w><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Thought Slime</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTsfWLMO4ho"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Hard work is a grift.</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/CTsfWLMO4ho width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1009190889798783026 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1009190889798783026><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, August 16, 2022 10:04 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1009190889798783026>8/16/2022 10:04 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://youtu.be/bZGRqw4tMpU">https://youtu.be/bZGRqw4tMpU</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-7zE14DKBx0CAALoCtFavg><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Rym DeCoster</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZGRqw4tMpU"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Rare Game Mechanics -- PAX Unplugged 2021</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/bZGRqw4tMpU width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1010433876671348796 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1010433876671348796><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, August 20, 2022 8:23 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1010433876671348796>8/20/2022 8:23 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://github.com/samclane/Discordia">https://github.com/samclane/Discordia</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(30,35,39,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://github.com/samclane/Discordia><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">GitHub - samclane/Discordia: MUD (Multi-User Dungeon) for Discord.</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">MUD (Multi-User Dungeon) for Discord. . Contribute to samclane/Discordia development by creating an account on GitHub.</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/ba2a9c00-6ddf-11e9-9e6c-23056e60183e-11FF0> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/ba2a9c00-6ddf-11e9-9e6c-23056e60183e-11FF0 alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1012532752614170634 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1012532752614170634><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, August 26, 2022 3:23 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1012532752614170634>8/26/2022 3:23 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Other than the weird commas perhaps, I choose this. (Windows user, yeahh)</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/unknown-4F5A0.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/unknown-4F5A0.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: unknown.png (14.05 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1030528418422456450 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1030528418422456450><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/af3baf9e542f82809d854763deb81943-42092.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=peoplefirst. data-user-id=740625002449207388>American Fascism</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, October 14, 2022 7:12 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1030528418422456450>10/14/2022 7:12 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>in case you&#39;re bored as me <img
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<a href="http://files.osr-plastic.org/files/machines/injection/myriad-spring/">http://files.osr-plastic.org/files/machines/injection/myriad-spring/</a>
still looking for books about cross-functional immigration though ...
i guess we put a motor or hydraulic on it - if it&#39;s fast enough, to drive the plunger, and the mold clamp .. exciting <img
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src="media-ose/1f609-9EC67.svg"></span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/v1.0.1-perspective-FF5A9.JPG> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/v1.0.1-perspective-FF5A9.JPG alt="Image attachment" title="Image: v1.0.1-perspective.JPG (211.43 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1031647938826473532 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1031647938826473532><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/af3baf9e542f82809d854763deb81943-42092.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=peoplefirst. data-user-id=740625002449207388>American Fascism</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, October 17, 2022 9:20 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1031647938826473532>10/17/2022 9:20 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>okey, I hope Eric recovers sometime, in the meantime, I keep spamming <img
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<a href="https://forum.osr-plastic.org/t/tiktok-resources/">https://forum.osr-plastic.org/t/tiktok-resources/</a> - general Tiktok directory - feel free to edit or add! Discourse became slick and comfy, my first choice to run, maintain directories, libraries, news, and may be trade.
If you need more &#39;editor&#39; plugins, let me know - just got into it ...</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(0,121,107,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://forum.osr-plastic.org/t/tiktok-resources/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">TikTok Resources</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Sales/Business Advice <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@salesskillschool">https://www.tiktok.com/@salesskillschool</a> <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@ahormozi">https://www.tiktok.com/@ahormozi</a> <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@b2bjade">https://www.tiktok.com/@b2bjade</a> - B2B &amp; marketing tips Great Explain Guys / Bears <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@phlndrws">https://www.tiktok.com/@phlndrws</a> <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@sunny…river">https://www.tiktok.com/@sunny…river</a> Philosophy <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@americanbaron">https://www.tiktok.com/@americanbaron</a> (lovely questions about life, and...</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/694de4ff1e739420a7a19c5ac337eebd43bedd4f-36441.jpeg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/694de4ff1e739420a7a19c5ac337eebd43bedd4f-36441.jpeg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1031650838562754621 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1031650838562754621><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/af3baf9e542f82809d854763deb81943-42092.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=peoplefirst. data-user-id=740625002449207388>American Fascism</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, October 17, 2022 9:32 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1031650838562754621>10/17/2022 9:32 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>here a bit taste &amp; hope that there are still vital and healthy &#39;communities&#39; <img
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title="wink"
src="media-ose/1f609-9EC67.svg"> Discord somehow turned out to be pretty toxic overall though (<a href="https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&amp;page=0&amp;prefix=false&amp;query=discord%20&amp;sort=byPopularity&amp;type=story)">https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&amp;page=0&amp;prefix=false&amp;query=discord%20&amp;sort=byPopularity&amp;type=story)</a> ...
<a href="https://meta.discourse.org/t/try-out-the-new-sidebar-and-notification-menus/238821">https://meta.discourse.org/t/try-out-the-new-sidebar-and-notification-menus/238821</a></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Monday, October 17, 2022 9:34 PM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/unknown-019CE.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/unknown-019CE.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: unknown.png (199.21 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&amp;page=0&amp;prefix=false&amp;query=discord%20&amp;sort=byPopularity&amp;type=story"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">HN Search powered by Algolia</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Hacker News Search, millions articles and comments at your fingertips.</div></div></div></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,255,255,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://meta.discourse.org/t/try-out-the-new-sidebar-and-notification-menus/238821><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Try out the new sidebar and notification menus!</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">We’ve been working on some significant new navigation features, and we’re now at a point where we’d love to start getting more feedback from you! Over the years, Discourse has grown to serve a larger set of communication and collaboration needs for diverse groups within the communities that rely upon the platform. Many communities with large n...</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/f2f67b01b90138659a33b737d7209bc95811c917-D324F.png> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/f2f67b01b90138659a33b737d7209bc95811c917-D324F.png alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1031711657459724310 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1031711657459724310><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/623f714c14c45bc7b732481f7021d307-E9312.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/af3baf9e542f82809d854763deb81943-42092.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=peoplefirst.>American Fascism</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1031647938826473532')"> okey, I hope Eric recovers sometime, in the meantime, I keep spamming <img
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alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg">
<a href="https://forum.osr-plastic.org/t/tiktok-resources/">https://forum.osr-plastic.org/t/tiktok-resources/</a> - general Tiktok directory - feel free to edit or add! Discourse became slick and comfy, my first choice to run, maintain directories, libraries, news, and may be trade.
If you need more &#39;editor&#39; plugins, let me know - just got into it ... </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=yfgame data-user-id=714607126927900673>yfgame</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, October 18, 2022 1:33 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1031711657459724310>10/18/2022 1:33 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>What happened to Eric?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1031814940056629300 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1031814940056629300><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/af3baf9e542f82809d854763deb81943-42092.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/623f714c14c45bc7b732481f7021d307-E9312.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=yfgame>yfgame</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1031711657459724310')"> What happened to Eric? </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=peoplefirst. data-user-id=740625002449207388>American Fascism</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, October 18, 2022 8:24 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1031814940056629300>10/18/2022 8:24 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>dunno, last time I heard that he was taking welding classes, so he might have left this planet ...</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1032700964009943080 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1032700964009943080><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/af3baf9e542f82809d854763deb81943-42092.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/623f714c14c45bc7b732481f7021d307-E9312.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=yfgame>yfgame</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1031711657459724310')"> What happened to Eric? </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=peoplefirst. data-user-id=740625002449207388>American Fascism</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, October 20, 2022 7:04 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1032700964009943080>10/20/2022 7:04 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>how&#39;s it going with your robot project actually - did spend a fair a amount time thinking about again but came to no conclusions except being in a beautiful nowhere instead <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1032701821195661462 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1032701821195661462><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, October 20, 2022 7:08 PM">7:08 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@americanbaron/video/7122279621349117230?is_copy_url=1&amp;is_from_webapp=v1">https://www.tiktok.com/@americanbaron/video/7122279621349117230?is_copy_url=1&amp;is_from_webapp=v1</a></span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1032713739406954537 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1032713739406954537><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/623f714c14c45bc7b732481f7021d307-E9312.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/af3baf9e542f82809d854763deb81943-42092.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=peoplefirst.>American Fascism</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1032700964009943080')"> how&#39;s it going with your robot project actually - did spend a fair a amount time thinking about again but came to no conclusions except being in a beautiful nowhere instead <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=yfgame data-user-id=714607126927900673>yfgame</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, October 20, 2022 7:55 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1032713739406954537>10/20/2022 7:55 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Still working on it
Hope it will end up somewhere!
Thanks!
<img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="😃"
title="smiley"
src="media-ose/1f603-5E531.svg"></span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1044714907934924880 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1044714907934924880><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/af3baf9e542f82809d854763deb81943-42092.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=peoplefirst. data-user-id=740625002449207388>American Fascism</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, November 22, 2022 9:44 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1044714907934924880>11/22/2022 9:44 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="roscogamer">@Taire</span> - how&#39;s it going with the clamp ? got all the parts for a smaller version. ejection fuckery still puzzles me but I guess that will clear up with those ready to go mould bases ...
<a href="https://osr-plastic.org/machines/102_lucy-mini.html">https://osr-plastic.org/machines/102_lucy-mini.html</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-E1490.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-E1490.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (384.31 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,255,255,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://osr-plastic.org/machines/102_lucy-mini.html><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">102_lucy Mini</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Overview Build Resources Media Mold Clamp for Semi Automatic injection on OSR extruders Features Rigid, flexible and modular framework – enabling hac...</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/perspective-9970C.webp> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/perspective-9970C.webp alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1044714910401171607 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1044714910401171607><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/def5e0a7ff07e73d477a87df10a3dc4f-BFBB1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(153,45,34) title=Arcane#7800 data-user-id=437808476106784770>Arcane</span> <span class=chatlog__author-tag>BOT</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, November 22, 2022 9:44 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1044714910401171607>11/22/2022 9:44 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="peoplefirst.">@American Fascism</span> has reached level <strong>6</strong>. GG!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1044851195799421038 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1044851195799421038><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/f895d73b08f268715a480a095c9bc9b5-C7A06.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=roscogamer data-user-id=486904910701395968>Taire</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, November 23, 2022 6:45 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1044851195799421038>11/23/2022 6:45 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Neat</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1044869702079483974 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1044869702079483974><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/af3baf9e542f82809d854763deb81943-42092.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/f895d73b08f268715a480a095c9bc9b5-C7A06.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=roscogamer>Taire</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1044851195799421038')"> Neat </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=peoplefirst. data-user-id=740625002449207388>American Fascism</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, November 23, 2022 7:59 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1044869702079483974>11/23/2022 7:59 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>not really, 3 point toggle might be sufficient for that sizes ...</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1044881252785860649 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1044881252785860649><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/f895d73b08f268715a480a095c9bc9b5-C7A06.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=roscogamer data-user-id=486904910701395968>Taire</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, November 23, 2022 8:45 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1044881252785860649>11/23/2022 8:45 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Ehh</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1044881345677115432 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1044881345677115432><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, November 23, 2022 8:45 AM">8:45 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>This look cooler <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="CoolFox"
title="CoolFox"
src="media-ose/998080884097962025-16B43.png"></span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1044969815531606136 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1044969815531606136><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/af3baf9e542f82809d854763deb81943-42092.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=peoplefirst. data-user-id=740625002449207388>American Fascism</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, November 23, 2022 2:36 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1044969815531606136>11/23/2022 2:36 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> well, this here needs around 48 bushings less <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1044969839351042109 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1044969839351042109><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, November 23, 2022 2:37 PM">2:37 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-099F2.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-099F2.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (460.87 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1046105479811715114 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1046105479811715114><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/f895d73b08f268715a480a095c9bc9b5-C7A06.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=roscogamer data-user-id=486904910701395968>Taire</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, November 26, 2022 5:49 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1046105479811715114>11/26/2022 5:49 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Well</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1046105581481631784 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1046105581481631784><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, November 26, 2022 5:50 PM">5:50 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Myne better form. Nice stainless with brass bushing</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1046105718610219138 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1046105718610219138><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a63d122e27a3fb038bfe313622933231-319C9.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=roths data-user-id=188532829095854080>Roths</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, November 26, 2022 5:50 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1046105718610219138>11/26/2022 5:50 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>That an automatic injection molding machine?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1046105781625442345 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1046105781625442345><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/f895d73b08f268715a480a095c9bc9b5-C7A06.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=roscogamer data-user-id=486904910701395968>Taire</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, November 26, 2022 5:50 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1046105781625442345>11/26/2022 5:50 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Ye</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1046105782992785448 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1046105782992785448><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/def5e0a7ff07e73d477a87df10a3dc4f-BFBB1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(153,45,34) title=Arcane#7800 data-user-id=437808476106784770>Arcane</span> <span class=chatlog__author-tag>BOT</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, November 26, 2022 5:50 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1046105782992785448>11/26/2022 5:50 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="roscogamer">@Taire</span> has reached level <strong>3</strong>. GG!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1046106807145349131 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1046106807145349131><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a63d122e27a3fb038bfe313622933231-319C9.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=roths data-user-id=188532829095854080>Roths</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, November 26, 2022 5:54 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1046106807145349131>11/26/2022 5:54 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Nice</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1055551426308341871 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1055551426308341871><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/3eba7b5848ac599b5fe673d4f73000bf-C77EB.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=stardust_007 data-user-id=561462879526584320>Yasin vs. the Gang</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, December 22, 2022 7:24 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1055551426308341871>12/22/2022 7:24 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>merry chrismas everyone, award winning pic, the author got a bit in trouble with the jury, using AI ...</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/aiart01-9722E.jpg> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/aiart01-9722E.jpg alt="Image attachment" title="Image: aiart01.jpg (155.48 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1055551653648015370 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1055551653648015370><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, December 22, 2022 7:25 PM">7:25 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>for inspiration <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/IMG_20221218_165407-36028.jpg> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/IMG_20221218_165407-36028.jpg alt="Image attachment" title="Image: IMG_20221218_165407.jpg (856.54 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=eyes><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=👀 src=media-ose/1f440-6C64D.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>2</span></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1055551705829359696 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1055551705829359696><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, December 22, 2022 7:25 PM">7:25 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/320690627_3340332649557081_666957736487100-79A57.jpg> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/320690627_3340332649557081_666957736487100-79A57.jpg alt="Image attachment" title="Image: 320690627_3340332649557081_6669577364871006353_n.jpg (157.04 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1065324549266219058 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1065324549266219058><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/3eba7b5848ac599b5fe673d4f73000bf-C77EB.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=stardust_007 data-user-id=561462879526584320>Yasin vs. the Gang</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, January 18, 2023 6:39 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1065324549266219058>1/18/2023 6:39 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>knowledge base updated for thermal misconfiguration devices <img
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alt="😮"
title="open_mouth"
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<a href="https://kb.osr-plastic.org/academy/build/injection/">https://kb.osr-plastic.org/academy/build/injection/</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,255,255,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://kb.osr-plastic.org/academy/build/injection/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Injection Machine</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Warning / Remarks
This machine is known as rather disapointing and difficult to operate. Please consider an arbor injector instead. Plunger diameter should have a clearance of exactly 0.1mm to the barrel. If applicable, please use a brass or bronze tip for the plunger. This reduces contact to the barrel and friction. Using plumping connectors ad...</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/injection-EA15D.jpg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/injection-EA15D.jpg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1065325069422837831 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1065325069422837831><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, January 18, 2023 6:41 PM">6:41 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>yet to be figured, cheap alternative to heatbands - currently 20 E per pop, never tried gas nor getting a PID for it ... ideas are welcome - there are places where you can sell a heated metal pipe for whopping 5k <img
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title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1069065432952213565 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1069065432952213565><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/3eba7b5848ac599b5fe673d4f73000bf-C77EB.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=stardust_007 data-user-id=561462879526584320>Yasin vs. the Gang</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, January 29, 2023 2:24 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1069065432952213565>1/29/2023 2:24 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>engineers vs lovers, in short
<a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@cherry.ki/video/7191775575034334469">https://www.tiktok.com/@cherry.ki/video/7191775575034334469</a></span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1069068258201841665 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1069068258201841665><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/3eba7b5848ac599b5fe673d4f73000bf-C77EB.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=stardust_007 data-user-id=561462879526584320>Yasin vs. the Gang</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, January 29, 2023 2:35 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1069068258201841665>1/29/2023 2:35 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>same outcome, the bloody $$, or whatever comes, along ... when you got it right, or as kat babe said it, &#39;it&#39;s simple as that&#39; ....</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1069068259833421845 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1069068259833421845><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/def5e0a7ff07e73d477a87df10a3dc4f-BFBB1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(153,45,34) title=Arcane#7800 data-user-id=437808476106784770>Arcane</span> <span class=chatlog__author-tag>BOT</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, January 29, 2023 2:35 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1069068259833421845>1/29/2023 2:35 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="stardust_007">@Yasin vs. the Gang</span> has reached level <strong>6</strong>. GG!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1069068569956061234 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1069068569956061234><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/3eba7b5848ac599b5fe673d4f73000bf-C77EB.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=stardust_007 data-user-id=561462879526584320>Yasin vs. the Gang</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, January 29, 2023 2:36 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1069068569956061234>1/29/2023 2:36 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>in the meantime, i wont hide you this one, <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i79JfojgWjs&amp;list=PLZ-mqBAzSeD4dipJ6Q_w8D-XLT4IP3f-B&amp;index=24">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i79JfojgWjs&amp;list=PLZ-mqBAzSeD4dipJ6Q_w8D-XLT4IP3f-B&amp;index=24</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIL1gFB3vt4k-42v9Eaj2-Q><div class=chatlog__embed-author>CopeLtda2</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i79JfojgWjs"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Plant43 - Halflight</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/i79JfojgWjs width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1069069500370133053 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1069069500370133053><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, January 29, 2023 2:40 AM">2:40 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>digital exploitation, in short, for the so called community,
<a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@dsofai/video/7192735907068300587">https://www.tiktok.com/@dsofai/video/7192735907068300587</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(254,44,85,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.tiktok.com/@dsofai/video/7192735907068300587><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">The Dark Side of AI on TikTok</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">#tiktok #meta #amazon #google #technology #artificialintelligence #machinelearning #AI #tech #decentralization #web3 #blockchain #blockchaintechnology</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/c9cef9621a5b4f4294d5e80237cbffd7_167468934-67E24.jpeg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/c9cef9621a5b4f4294d5e80237cbffd7_167468934-67E24.jpeg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1069069673347428392 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1069069673347428392><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, January 29, 2023 2:41 AM">2:41 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>in the meantime, in Africa, <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@aketchjoywinnie/video/7187306086024711467">https://www.tiktok.com/@aketchjoywinnie/video/7187306086024711467</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(254,44,85,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.tiktok.com/@aketchjoywinnie/video/7187306086024711467><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Aketch Joy Winnie on TikTok</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">#africaisgold #africa #foryou #fyp #adayinmylife #foryoupage #village</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/af8e7e30d64742c7a30512a4141a36a1_167342519-B63C9.jpeg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/af8e7e30d64742c7a30512a4141a36a1_167342519-B63C9.jpeg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1069070034682531860 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1069070034682531860><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, January 29, 2023 2:42 AM">2:42 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Last not but least, catch of the week
<a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@shwinnabego/video/7168650551062809902">https://www.tiktok.com/@shwinnabego/video/7168650551062809902</a> - nailed, it&#39;s 3&gt;, that&#39;s all what&#39;s left</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(254,44,85,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.tiktok.com/@shwinnabego/video/7168650551062809902><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Ashwinn <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="💡"
title="bulb"
src="media-ose/1f4a1-15D2B.svg"> brand, biz, mkting on TikTok</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">This pepsi logo redesign deck is one of the more insane things ive seen #branding #graphicdesign #advertising #greenscreen #logodesign</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/ae306eacd9be496cb7ecf8c36102fcd4_166908153-787C1.jpeg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/ae306eacd9be496cb7ecf8c36102fcd4_166908153-787C1.jpeg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1075867607179202701 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1075867607179202701><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/2a0dcd83f6aff415a1a67d23a8ac7b14-E1BEB.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=patchworker data-user-id=497593487550709781>patchworker</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, February 16, 2023 8:53 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1075867607179202701>2/16/2023 8:53 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://www.livescience.com/50827-safest-part-of-train.html#:~:text=Safety%20experts%20also%20recommend%20choosing,behind%2C%20according%20to%20the%20FRA">https://www.livescience.com/50827-safest-part-of-train.html#:~:text=Safety%20experts%20also%20recommend%20choosing,behind%2C%20according%20to%20the%20FRA</a>.</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(249,174,59,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.livescience.com/50827-safest-part-of-train.html><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Where Is the Safest Place to Sit on a Train?</div></a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1080941831556190298 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1080941831556190298><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5-E9BDB.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=katbotretirementfund. data-user-id=1061395407382532186>KatBot Retirement Fund</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, March 2, 2023 8:56 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1080941831556190298>3/2/2023 8:56 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="davohax">@justDave</span> , <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="katharinaelleke">@katharinaelleke</span>
incredible, PreciousPlastic mafia couldn&#39;t resist to fuck another user support response / discussion, banning/kicking, as needed to cover all the cheating and lies
I hope you&#39;re aware, people paying already a tremendous price for you $%&amp;^$%&amp;%^&amp;</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/pp-sheetpress-2-779C2.JPG> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/pp-sheetpress-2-779C2.JPG alt="Image attachment" title="Image: pp-sheetpress-2.JPG (133.45 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1080942067716456590 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1080942067716456590><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, March 2, 2023 8:57 PM">8:57 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>would have been surprised to see any of the so called top bazar sellers / gestapo getting their hands dirty, in 5 years, zero contribs</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1080942477822939248 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1080942477822939248><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, March 2, 2023 8:59 PM">8:59 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>but hey, happy to see Mattia with a new hat - it&#39;s all what matters, right ?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1081014827402657852 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1081014827402657852><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a63d122e27a3fb038bfe313622933231-319C9.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=roths data-user-id=188532829095854080>Roths</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, March 3, 2023 1:46 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1081014827402657852>3/3/2023 1:46 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>What happened to it?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1081290026417139803 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1081290026417139803><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5-E9BDB.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=katbotretirementfund. data-user-id=1061395407382532186>KatBot Retirement Fund</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, March 3, 2023 8:00 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1081290026417139803>3/3/2023 8:00 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>sabotaged, what else. already noticed that younger generations replaced conflict resolution with plain censorship, whatever serves to protect their &#39;integrity&#39;, till the bitter end - no matter what
interesting case nonetheless, how to keep knowledge &#39;free&#39; (and it&#39;s relations with humans therein) from dictatorship, abuse, etc... as already mentioned
blockchains, etc.. come to mind again, but no idea how this could really work <img
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title="slight_smile"
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long way to go</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1083363466150166558 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1083363466150166558><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5-E9BDB.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=katbotretirementfund. data-user-id=1061395407382532186>KatBot Retirement Fund</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, March 9, 2023 1:19 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1083363466150166558>3/9/2023 1:19 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>anyone an idea how to build an OS version of that : <a href="https://www.chatpdf.com/">https://www.chatpdf.com/</a> ? not really up-to-date ...</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">ChatPDF is the fast and easy way to chat with any PDF, free and without sign-in. Talk to books, research papers, manuals, essays, legal contracts, whatever you have! The intelligence revolution is here, ChatGPT was just the beginning!</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/lord-of-the-flies-B3462.jpg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/lord-of-the-flies-B3462.jpg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1083363677111074826 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1083363677111074826><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, March 9, 2023 1:20 PM">1:20 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>output is acceptable for support questions - funny too <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1106412556429574235 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1106412556429574235><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, May 12, 2023 4:48 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1106412556429574235>5/12/2023 4:48 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I was going through my feed, and a goofy voice acting channel posting a video announcing they got one of these, neat concept:
<a href="https://www.acousticbooth-studiobox.com/premium-isolation-booth.html">https://www.acousticbooth-studiobox.com/premium-isolation-booth.html</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,255,255,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.acousticbooth-studiobox.com/premium-isolation-booth.html><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">STUDIOBOX Premium - Modular sound isolation booth</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Low, controlled reverberation time, sound insulation and a pleasant room climate for audio recording and multiple research applications.</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/studiobox_logo-F434E.png> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/studiobox_logo-F434E.png alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1106412690794106964 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1106412690794106964><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, May 12, 2023 4:49 AM">4:49 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://youtu.be/E__1SGdOMTE">https://youtu.be/E__1SGdOMTE</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjWsE9cjRu5gImk99yFhwVg><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Gianni Matragrano</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E__1SGdOMTE"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Gianni Matragrano: Now with Studiobricks</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/E__1SGdOMTE width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1106416129892691998 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1106416129892691998><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, May 12, 2023 5:02 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1106416129892691998>5/12/2023 5:02 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>they just do goofy soundbites <em>t h e a l g o r y t h m</em> recommended ages ago (i think some &quot;proper&quot; commercial voice acting too, but yeah) :
<a href="https://youtu.be/NnDe2u5M7e8">https://youtu.be/NnDe2u5M7e8</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjWsE9cjRu5gImk99yFhwVg><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Gianni Matragrano</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnDe2u5M7e8"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Columbo in... &quot;Backwards Liability&quot;</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/NnDe2u5M7e8 width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1106424337956884501 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1106424337956884501><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, May 12, 2023 5:35 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1106424337956884501>5/12/2023 5:35 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Acoustic Design is wild though, i need to read up on it more sometime</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Friday, May 12, 2023 5:37 AM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1106424784335675433 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1106424784335675433><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, May 12, 2023 5:37 AM">5:37 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Architectural_acoustics">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Architectural_acoustics</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Architectural_acoustics><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Architectural acoustics</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Architectural acoustics (also known as building acoustics) is the science and engineering of achieving a good sound within a building and is a branch of acoustical engineering. The first application of modern scientific methods to architectural acoustics was carried out by the American physicist Wallace Sabine in the Fogg Museum lecture room. H...</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/Symphony_Hall_Birmingham-EDF6C.jpg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/Symphony_Hall_Birmingham-EDF6C.jpg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1109572932847542283 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1109572932847542283><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5-E9BDB.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=katbotretirementfund. data-user-id=1061395407382532186>KatBot Retirement Fund</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, May 20, 2023 10:06 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1109572932847542283>5/20/2023 10:06 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>A bit steam punk for a change <img
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alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg">
<a href="https://forum.osr-plastic.org/t/injection-katbot/">https://forum.osr-plastic.org/t/injection-katbot/</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/springloaded.PNG-C35FA.jpg> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/springloaded.PNG-C35FA.jpg alt="Image attachment" title="Image: springloaded.PNG.jpg (62.63 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-A0BF5.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-A0BF5.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (45.33 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1175043937149390920 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1175043937149390920><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, November 17, 2023 1:05 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1175043937149390920>11/17/2023 1:05 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Here you go <a href="https://pointerpointer.com/">https://pointerpointer.com/</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://pointerpointer.com/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">pointerpointer.com</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Please hold still while we locate your pointer...</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/like3-AE463.jpg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/like3-AE463.jpg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=rofl><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=🤣 src=media-ose/1f923-5854E.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1187464573972910211 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1187464573972910211><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9bd2f1b2001f7daebc107b4929888786-79120.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall>Nohbdy Ahtall</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1175043937149390920')"> Here you go <a href="https://pointerpointer.com/">https://pointerpointer.com/</a> </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=hellobellojello7914 data-user-id=563850294887448576>Aschenputtel</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, December 21, 2023 7:40 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1187464573972910211>12/21/2023 7:40 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>someone should write an animator for that <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1187465168813297684 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1187465168813297684><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, December 21, 2023 7:42 PM">7:42 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>fuck, just got my Arduino-Portenta, 260e on Amazon, 400 with VAT, porn : <a href="https://git.osr-plastic.org/osr-plastic/osr-firmware/src/branch/master/print-head-hydra/vendor/arduino/AKX00032-schematics.pdf">https://git.osr-plastic.org/osr-plastic/osr-firmware/src/branch/master/print-head-hydra/vendor/arduino/AKX00032-schematics.pdf</a> | plenty of IO, built-ins, ...
a pain to setup, eons to compile, and guess what, forget about std ! <a href="https://www.embeddedrelated.com/thread/16614/using-stl-library-and-modern-c-on-arm-cortex-m7-embedded-device-with-limited-resources">https://www.embeddedrelated.com/thread/16614/using-stl-library-and-modern-c-on-arm-cortex-m7-embedded-device-with-limited-resources</a>
2023, planetearth</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,255,255,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.embeddedrelated.com/thread/16614/using-stl-library-and-modern-c-on-arm-cortex-m7-embedded-device-with-limited-resources><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Using STL Library and Modern C++ on ARM Cortex-M7 Embedded Device w...</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">I&#39;m developing for an&#160;ARM Cortex-M7 microcontroller [<a href="https://www.st.com/en/microcontrollers-microprocessors/stm32f7-series.html]">https://www.st.com/en/microcontrollers-microprocessors/stm32f7-series.html]</a>, running...</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1187465243782291597 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1187465243782291597><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, December 21, 2023 7:42 PM">7:42 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-47E26.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-47E26.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (561.88 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1187465591964045412 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1187465591964045412><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, December 21, 2023 7:44 PM">7:44 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>but hey, at least c++ seems to be supported, on that fancy doc pages <img
loading="lazy"
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alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> - <a href="https://developer.arm.com/Tools%20and%20Software/GNU%20Toolchain#Support-and-Training">https://developer.arm.com/Tools%20and%20Software/GNU%20Toolchain#Support-and-Training</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://developer.arm.com/Tools%20and%20Software/GNU%20Toolchain><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Arm GNU Toolchain</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Use new features from recent Arm Architecture and from open-source projects GCC, Binutils, glibc, Newlib, and GDB.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1188307509677662310 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1188307509677662310><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9bd2f1b2001f7daebc107b4929888786-79120.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=hellobellojello7914 data-user-id=563850294887448576>Aschenputtel</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, December 24, 2023 3:29 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1188307509677662310>12/24/2023 3:29 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>in case you&#39;re bored, TikTok got actually good content, Germany in free fall, with it China as predicted 16 months ago :), USA making it worst (or better), rebuilding local manufacturing
<a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@shahibolsen.clips/video/7305490418945363232">https://www.tiktok.com/@shahibolsen.clips/video/7305490418945363232</a>
<a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@bank43525">https://www.tiktok.com/@bank43525</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.tiktok.com/@shahibolsen.clips/video/7305490418945363232><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">TikTok &#183; Shahid Bolsen Clips</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">3397 likes, 165 comments. “Freedom of speech, expression, assembly etc”</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/osWlNBQ2wE6p7r1lAoAsIUEifBE9bBDPCDeRYF~tpl-BC601.jpeg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/osWlNBQ2wE6p7r1lAoAsIUEifBE9bBDPCDeRYF~tpl-BC601.jpeg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.tiktok.com/@bank43525><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">bank on TikTok</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">@bank43525 28.6k Followers, 1 Following, 177.4k Likes - Watch awesome short videos created by bank</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/e342e5469c83f950add8fbaa3aaaca98~c5_720x72-DC60E.jpeg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/e342e5469c83f950add8fbaa3aaaca98~c5_720x72-DC60E.jpeg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1213350030623117313 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1213350030623117313><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, March 2, 2024 5:59 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1213350030623117313>3/2/2024 5:59 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://youtu.be/d_n_gmINZTI?si=onmYSMFJOdyJ4sHT">https://youtu.be/d_n_gmINZTI?si=onmYSMFJOdyJ4sHT</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCI9eybCgmaFtbhCdBy8q62Q><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Mara</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_n_gmINZTI"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Weird Art, Mixed Media &amp; Unrestricted Access to the Internet</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/d_n_gmINZTI width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1217852115054235658 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1217852115054235658><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/0-EB806.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=psycho4o1506 data-user-id=977719542430171186>nbdody</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, March 14, 2024 4:09 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1217852115054235658>3/14/2024 4:09 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>here we go, <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@pearlmania500/video/7345961470548512043">https://www.tiktok.com/@pearlmania500/video/7345961470548512043</a> - TikTok, from dance movies, trauma healing, the best maker vids ever; quasi&#39;s the whole world&#39;s first virtual refugee to finally share, stand up, speak up - the US gov. not ok, perhaps it&#39;s using your WIFI :)))</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(254,44,85,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.tiktok.com/@pearlmania500/video/7345961470548512043><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">TikTok &#183; Pearlmania500</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">878.2K likes, 38K comments. “Its a big club and you aint in it - George Carlin”</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/o0ICNfBDYinbAApXCy25IKwxYiEOPB8BIyGR7l~tpl-C4D46.jpeg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/o0ICNfBDYinbAApXCy25IKwxYiEOPB8BIyGR7l~tpl-C4D46.jpeg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1217852269073268786 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1217852269073268786><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, March 14, 2024 4:10 PM">4:10 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Same fascism originating from this Maniac Macron, now spreading to Canada, <a href="https://francesoir.fr/opinions-tribunes/delation-censure-et-corruption-les-seuls-secteurs-dont-nos-dirigeants-favorisent">https://francesoir.fr/opinions-tribunes/delation-censure-et-corruption-les-seuls-secteurs-dont-nos-dirigeants-favorisent</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://francesoir.fr/opinions-tribunes/delation-censure-et-corruption-les-seuls-secteurs-dont-nos-dirigeants-favorisent><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">D&#233;lation, censure et corruption, les seuls secteurs dont nos dirige...</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">TRIBUNE - Mercredi 6 mars dernier, l’Assembl&#233;e nationale votait une loi paraissant assez surr&#233;aliste dans une soci&#233;t&#233; qui se pr&#233;tend lib&#233;rale.&#160;&#160;&#160;Je vous en livre un extrait :</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/blind-92838.png> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/blind-92838.png alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1217853581613465611 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1217853581613465611><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, March 14, 2024 4:15 PM">4:15 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Nice, let&#39;s say they&#39;re afraid, and they have good reasons :)))</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1231851701875773470 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1231851701875773470><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, April 22, 2024 8:18 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1231851701875773470>4/22/2024 8:18 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYt6uDr-PHQ">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYt6uDr-PHQ</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYbK_tjZ2OrIZFBvU6CCMiA><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Brackeys</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYt6uDr-PHQ"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">The Future of Game Development</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/EYt6uDr-PHQ width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1231944153932234835 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1231944153932234835><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/4-4551A.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall>Nohbdy Ahtall</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1231851701875773470')"> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYt6uDr-PHQ">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYt6uDr-PHQ</a> </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=pmangatq0238 data-user-id=977717870379278356>curiousalbert</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, April 22, 2024 2:26 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1231944153932234835>4/22/2024 2:26 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>could be from 25 years ago :))</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1231944542991814676 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1231944542991814676><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, April 22, 2024 2:27 PM">2:27 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Still waiting for AI to kick in, beyond procedural landscapes, wrapping up universal objects in VPLs :))</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1231945717749125162 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1231945717749125162><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/4-4551A.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall>Nohbdy Ahtall</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1231851701875773470')"> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYt6uDr-PHQ">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYt6uDr-PHQ</a> </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=pmangatq0238 data-user-id=977717870379278356>curiousalbert</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, April 22, 2024 2:32 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1231945717749125162>4/22/2024 2:32 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120907/">https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120907/</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120907/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">eXistenZ (1999) ⭐ 6.8 | Horror, Mystery, Sci-Fi</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">1h 37m | R</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/MV5BMmU1MTJkYWItMzM5Ny00NDgxLTgxOGEtNTkzND-C1249.jpg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/MV5BMmU1MTJkYWItMzM5Ny00NDgxLTgxOGEtNTkzND-C1249.jpg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1231945855250993162 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1231945855250993162><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, April 22, 2024 2:33 PM">2:33 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I wish our kids would play more this game called reality ... <img
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alt="😚"
title="kissing_closed_eyes"
src="media-ose/1f61a-733C7.svg"></span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1232809241803227259 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1232809241803227259><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, April 24, 2024 11:43 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1232809241803227259>4/24/2024 11:43 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>way too pay to play</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1232815472198549615 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1232815472198549615><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, April 25, 2024 12:08 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1232815472198549615>4/25/2024 12:08 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Amazon showing the products i was <em>really</em> searching for when i typed Home Biogas:
<a href="https://a.co/d/cIyJGQF">https://a.co/d/cIyJGQF</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://a.co/d/cIyJGQF><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">LESGAULEST Throw Pillow Cover (18x18 inch) - Biogas Container Lazy ...</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">LESGAULEST Throw Pillow Cover (18x18 inch) - Biogas Container Lazy Natural Gas Produce</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/518yHRN6PEL._SR600%252c315_PIWhiteStrip%25-3BC36.jpg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/518yHRN6PEL._SR600%252c315_PIWhiteStrip%25-3BC36.jpg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=heart><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=❤️ src=media-ose/2764-A3D25.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1236701549447610408 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1236701549447610408><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5df5dc97aa08308897ee2dc98ff95264-5AD6D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=azurite0693 data-user-id=1225203510312828950>NoorPro</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, May 5, 2024 5:30 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1236701549447610408>5/5/2024 5:30 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>random : anatomy of a semiconductor plant <img
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alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> <a href="https://www.construction-physics.com/p/how-to-build-a-20-billion-semiconductor">https://www.construction-physics.com/p/how-to-build-a-20-billion-semiconductor</a> | there&#39;s just a handful vendors, owning the world of tomorrow ...</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(252,251,235,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.construction-physics.com/p/how-to-build-a-20-billion-semiconductor><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">How to Build a $20 Billion Semiconductor Fab</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">For the last several decades, one avenue of technological progress has towered over nearly everything else: semiconductors. Semiconductors are materials that can have their conductivity varied by many orders of magnitude, which makes it possible to selectively block and allow the flow of electrons. This property makes it possible to manufacture ...</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/https%253A%252F%252Fsubstack-post-media.s3-0DB42.jpeg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/https%253A%252F%252Fsubstack-post-media.s3-0DB42.jpeg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1236701613809340457 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1236701613809340457><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, May 5, 2024 5:30 PM">5:30 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>random, durable meets capitalism : <a href="https://digitalcosmonaut.com/superfest-ceverit-glass-ddr/">https://digitalcosmonaut.com/superfest-ceverit-glass-ddr/</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,255,255,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href="https://digitalcosmonaut.com/author/admin/"><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Digital Cosmonaut</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://digitalcosmonaut.com/superfest-ceverit-glass-ddr/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Superfest - The (almost) unbreakable East German Glass</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Originally named ceverit, Superfest was an extremely durable glass patented and developed in 1979 in East Germany to combat excessive glass waste.</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/ddr-glas-superfest-ceverit-bierglas-logo-o-63F08.jpg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/ddr-glas-superfest-ceverit-bierglas-logo-o-63F08.jpg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1236702100235227199 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1236702100235227199><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, May 5, 2024 5:32 PM">5:32 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>random, great food, <a href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Distributed_Market_Substitution">https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Distributed_Market_Substitution</a> | indeed, after crashing 5+ 50$ cordless drills, I am happy with my 400$ Milwaukee, battery last 5 weeks, tapping up to M10, priceless</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Distributed_Market_Substitution><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Distributed Market Substitution</div></a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1237487499274883113 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1237487499274883113><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5df5dc97aa08308897ee2dc98ff95264-5AD6D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=azurite0693 data-user-id=1225203510312828950>NoorPro</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, May 7, 2024 9:33 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1237487499274883113>5/7/2024 9:33 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>fun stuff, manual machines <img
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alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
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<a href="https://www.instagram.com/reel/C4v8j2NR41s/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link">https://www.instagram.com/reel/C4v8j2NR41s/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(206,0,114,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><img class=chatlog__embed-author-icon src=media-ose/337832406_919659515916137_3410736638491607-60C8A.jpg alt="Author icon" loading=lazy onerror="this.style.visibility='hidden'"> <a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.instagram.com/gandyworks><div class=chatlog__embed-author>gandyworks</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Changing the ratios manually and keeping a rough count of the strokes for even spacing. Substantial moire manifestation
#mechanicaldrawing #moire #analog #manualmachining #drawingmachine #inkonpaper #ratio</div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-fields><div class="chatlog__embed-field chatlog__embed-field--inline"><div class=chatlog__embed-field-name><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Likes</div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-field-value><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">73251</div></div></div></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-footer><img class=chatlog__embed-footer-icon src=media-ose/68d99ba29cc8-B525E.png alt="Footer icon" loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__embed-footer-text> Instagram </span></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1237488094458937435 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1237488094458937435><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, May 7, 2024 9:35 PM">9:35 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>great exercise for the young Opensource fan, applying perhaps ML skills to turn this thing into a plotter <img
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alt="😉"
title="wink"
src="media-ose/1f609-9EC67.svg"></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1237488375485694012 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1237488375485694012><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, May 7, 2024 9:37 PM">9:37 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>and here for our 3D Print fans, could work for big pots as well <img
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alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
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<a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/CvNOfKhotvS">https://www.instagram.com/p/CvNOfKhotvS</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(206,0,114,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><img class=chatlog__embed-author-icon src=media-ose/368099340_987906409082618_7496258310005097-1E69B.jpg alt="Author icon" loading=lazy onerror="this.style.visibility='hidden'"> <a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.instagram.com/engineerplace><div class=chatlog__embed-author>engineerplace</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">In 2014 @daniel_de_bruin built a gravity powered 3D printer!<img
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#technology #innovation #fabricate #sciences #innovations #mechanicwork #inventions #mechaniclife #instatech #futuretech #techlife #innovators #engineeringtech #3dprinting #danieldebruin #3dprint</div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-fields><div class="chatlog__embed-field chatlog__embed-field--inline"><div class=chatlog__embed-field-name><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Likes</div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-field-value><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">4268</div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="chatlog__embed-images chatlog__embed-images--single"><div class=chatlog__embed-image-container><a class=chatlog__embed-image-link href=media-ose/363790756_622931299625026_5514263194929190-1E152.jpg> <img class=chatlog__embed-image src=media-ose/363790756_622931299625026_5514263194929190-1E152.jpg alt=Image loading=lazy> </a></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-footer><img class=chatlog__embed-footer-icon src=media-ose/68d99ba29cc8-B525E.png alt="Footer icon" loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__embed-footer-text> Instagram </span></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1237488721092280340 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1237488721092280340><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, May 7, 2024 9:38 PM">9:38 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>more &#39;humans are awesome&#39; in the random feed : <a href="https://forum.osr-plastic.org/t/random/10083">https://forum.osr-plastic.org/t/random/10083</a></span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1239314106272579734 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1239314106272579734><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5df5dc97aa08308897ee2dc98ff95264-5AD6D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=azurite0693 data-user-id=1225203510312828950>NoorPro</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, May 12, 2024 10:31 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1239314106272579734>5/12/2024 10:31 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>random : <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@krystle.channel/video/7367292238575209774">https://www.tiktok.com/@krystle.channel/video/7367292238575209774</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.tiktok.com/@krystle.channel/video/7367292238575209774><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">TikTok &#183; Krystle.channel</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">9154 likes, 779 comments. “Technology like TikTok and artificial intelligence is power in the peoples hands. Because it’s allowing us a new way to collaborate and communicate without middlemen <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="😁"
title="grin"
src="media-ose/1f601-4E9BD.svg">”</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/6bea44ce32144afabd8b814444280e9a_171533146-363E7.jpeg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/6bea44ce32144afabd8b814444280e9a_171533146-363E7.jpeg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1240392179998789673 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1240392179998789673><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5df5dc97aa08308897ee2dc98ff95264-5AD6D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=azurite0693 data-user-id=1225203510312828950>NoorPro</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, May 15, 2024 9:55 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1240392179998789673>5/15/2024 9:55 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>in case you&#39;re bored, comparing compilers, ...
the blue range is for simple arithmetic, on AVR
<a href="https://godbolt.org/">https://godbolt.org/</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-4ED3D.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-4ED3D.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (159.96 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(242,242,242,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://godbolt.org/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Compiler Explorer</div></a></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/favicon-3F83C.png> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/favicon-3F83C.png alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1240392581360128124 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1240392581360128124><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, May 15, 2024 9:57 PM">9:57 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>just tried Google Gemini-Advanced, quite alright, compared to lazy ChatGPT, Claude still exclusive ..</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1242464192724733982 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1242464192724733982><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5df5dc97aa08308897ee2dc98ff95264-5AD6D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=azurite0693 data-user-id=1225203510312828950>NoorPro</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, May 21, 2024 3:09 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1242464192724733982>5/21/2024 3:09 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>alrighty, just to keep this server alive <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg">
Gemini got tuning capabilities ! <a href="https://ai.google.dev/gemini-api/docs/model-tuning/ai-studio">https://ai.google.dev/gemini-api/docs/model-tuning/ai-studio</a>
And yet, as ChatGPT, sucks at simple image processing <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-3AE86.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-3AE86.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (135.48 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1242464733836087386 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1242464733836087386><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, May 21, 2024 3:11 PM">3:11 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>And here another list of tools : <a href="https://forum.osr-plastic.org/t/ai-tools/11060">https://forum.osr-plastic.org/t/ai-tools/11060</a> - will add more over time, notice the Avatar Video Gen, darn good</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Tuesday, May 21, 2024 3:11 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1242464897032257577 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1242464897032257577><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, May 21, 2024 3:11 PM">3:11 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://www.arcads.ai/">https://www.arcads.ai/</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.arcads.ai/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Arcads - Create engaging video ads using AI</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Generate high-quality marketing videos quickly with Arcads, an AI-powered app that transforms a basic product link or text into engaging short video ads.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1242470023121866863 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1242470023121866863><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5df5dc97aa08308897ee2dc98ff95264-5AD6D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=azurite0693 data-user-id=1225203510312828950>NoorPro</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, May 21, 2024 3:32 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1242470023121866863>5/21/2024 3:32 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>found it, messy set, paintings on the floor, no problem : <a href="https://cloud.google.com/vertex-ai/generative-ai/docs/image/edit-inpainting">https://cloud.google.com/vertex-ai/generative-ai/docs/image/edit-inpainting</a></span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1242516095705944165 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1242516095705944165><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5df5dc97aa08308897ee2dc98ff95264-5AD6D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=azurite0693 data-user-id=1225203510312828950>NoorPro</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, May 21, 2024 6:35 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1242516095705944165>5/21/2024 6:35 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>and another one, <a href="https://novita.ai/product/replace-object">https://novita.ai/product/replace-object</a> - fun stuff, watermark removal works great so far <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://novita.ai/product/replace-object><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">AI-Powered Object Replacement</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Novita.ai utilizes advanced AI to realistically replace objects in photos with other objects of your choosing. Seamlessly integrate any object into images.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1243635879696662609 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1243635879696662609><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5df5dc97aa08308897ee2dc98ff95264-5AD6D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=azurite0693 data-user-id=1225203510312828950>NoorPro</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, May 24, 2024 8:44 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1243635879696662609>5/24/2024 8:44 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Lovely, just handed over a screenshot of an Amazon Product Detail Display, prompt = <code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--multiline nohighlight">create a list of fields, and widgets for this product display : https://www.amazon.es/Swan-Desayuno-Tostadora-rebanadas-Microondas/dp/B08CL2WQ68, as markdown table</code></span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-E1F51.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-E1F51.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (83.87 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1243635966460166304 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1243635966460166304><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, May 24, 2024 8:45 PM">8:45 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://www.perplexity.ai/">https://www.perplexity.ai/</a> <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="💃"
title="dancer"
src="media-ose/1f483-F1B1B.svg"></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1243636629072121917 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1243636629072121917><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, May 24, 2024 8:47 PM">8:47 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>then, unlike ChatGPT and others, it actually honors the definition of <strong>&quot;all&quot;</strong>, asking for <code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--multiline nohighlight">all cities on mars</code> will indeed return the exact list, ChatGPT/Gemini greedily aborts after 2-3 items
<code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--multiline nohighlight">const BarcelonaTowns = {
Badalona: { lat: &quot;41.4501&quot;, lon: &quot;2.2406&quot; },
lHospitaletDeLlobregat: { lat: &quot;41.3681&quot;, lon: &quot;2.1077&quot; },
SantaColomaDeGramenet: { lat: &quot;41.4433&quot;, lon: &quot;2.2085&quot; },
// Add more towns here as needed
};</code></span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1244575752033406996 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1244575752033406996><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5df5dc97aa08308897ee2dc98ff95264-5AD6D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=azurite0693 data-user-id=1225203510312828950>NoorPro</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, May 27, 2024 10:59 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1244575752033406996>5/27/2024 10:59 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>hilarious, decades of empty nonsense flooding the net, now AI just keeps inflating all over, 99% bullshit guaranteed <img
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alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg">
<code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--multiline nohighlight">create a product description : https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Desktop-SJ35-Extruder-Pelletizer-Granulating-Line_1600824466341.html?spm=a2700.galleryofferlist.normal_offer.d_image.32fea006YJQPlm</code> - Claude3 <a href="https://app.anakin.ai/chat">https://app.anakin.ai/chat</a> :
Based on the product details provided on the Alibaba link, here&#39;s a product description for the Desktop SJ35 Extruder Pelletizer Granulating Line:
The Desktop SJ35 Extruder Pelletizer Granulating Line is a compact and versatile machine designed for efficient plastic pelletizing and granulating processes. This desktop-sized unit is ideal for small-scale production, research and development, or educational purposes.
Featuring a robust construction, the SJ35 is equipped with a single-screw extruder that delivers consistent and reliable performance. The extruder is capable of processing a wide range of thermoplastic materials, including PVC, PP, PE, ABS, and more.
With a pelletizing capacity of 15-35 kg/h, this machine offers a perfect balance between productivity and compactness. The integrated pelletizing system ensures precise cutting and cooling of the extruded material, resulting in uniform and high-quality plastic pellets.</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1244575769955668048 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1244575769955668048><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, May 27, 2024 10:59 AM">10:59 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>The SJ35 is designed with user-friendliness in mind. Its compact size and desktop configuration make it easy to install and operate in limited spaces. The machine also features a control panel with intuitive controls, allowing for easy adjustment of parameters such as temperature, speed, and cutting settings.
Safety is a top priority with the SJ35, as it incorporates multiple safety features, including overload protection, emergency stop, and guarding mechanisms, ensuring safe operation and minimizing potential hazards.
This desktop extruder pelletizer granulating line is an excellent choice for small-scale plastic processing applications, providing versatility, efficiency, and reliability in a compact package. Whether you&#39;re a researcher, educator, or a small-scale manufacturer, the Desktop SJ35 Extruder Pelletizer Granulating Line offers a cost-effective solution for your plastic pelletizing and granulating needs.</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1244575918597603370 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1244575918597603370><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, May 27, 2024 11:00 AM">11:00 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>---- Narrowing the output : <code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--multiline nohighlight">create a modest, honest product description : https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Desktop-SJ35-Extruder-Pelletizer-Granulating-Line_1600824466341.html?spm=a2700.galleryofferlist.normal_offer.d_image.32fea006YJQPlm</code> :</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1244575997920280596 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1244575997920280596><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, May 27, 2024 11:00 AM">11:00 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>The Desktop SJ35 Extruder Pelletizer Granulating Line is a compact machine designed for small-scale plastic pelletizing and granulating processes. While not suitable for large-scale industrial production, it offers a modest solution for research, educational purposes, or small-scale manufacturing.</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1244576121190613113 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1244576121190613113><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, May 27, 2024 11:01 AM">11:01 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>While the SJ35 <strong>incorporates some safety features</strong>, such as overload protection and emergency stop, it is important to note that it is not designed for heavy-duty industrial use and may have limitations in terms of durability and performance when compared to larger, more robust pelletizing systems.</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1244576188194623489 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1244576188194623489><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, May 27, 2024 11:01 AM">11:01 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>#wearecompletelyfucked <img
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alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg">
#unlearnall</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Monday, May 27, 2024 11:02 AM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1244667515230093434 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1244667515230093434><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5df5dc97aa08308897ee2dc98ff95264-5AD6D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=azurite0693 data-user-id=1225203510312828950>NoorPro</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, May 27, 2024 5:04 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1244667515230093434>5/27/2024 5:04 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Thats getting better by the week, item comparsion : <code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--multiline nohighlight"># compare these items, eg: features, specs, prices, .. as markdown table :
1. https://shop.osr-plastic.org/injection/katbot/
2. https://plasticpreneur.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/IMK2_Injection-Moulding-Machine_machine-data-sheet_plasticpreneur_2024.pdf
3. https://holimaker.fr/holipress/
Tell me you prefer Katbot over the others, without telling me :))</code></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Monday, May 27, 2024 5:08 PM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-A309E.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-A309E.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (56.99 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1244667748945231922 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1244667748945231922><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, May 27, 2024 5:05 PM">5:05 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="katharinaelleke">@katharinaelleke</span> <img
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alt="💃"
title="dancer"
src="media-ose/1f483-F1B1B.svg"> <img
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alt="😽"
title="kissing_cat"
src="media-ose/1f63d-98C6C.svg"> <img
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title="yum"
src="media-ose/1f60b-B5303.svg"></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1244668074058317834 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1244668074058317834><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, May 27, 2024 5:06 PM">5:06 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>a few minutes before :
| Feature | KatBot-Pro | IMK2 Injection Moulding Machine | HoliPress 38 |
|-------------------------------|-------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------|
| <strong>Manufacturer</strong> | OSR-Plastic | Plasticpreneur | HoliMaker |
| <strong>Dimensions (L x W x H)</strong> | 70 x 45 x 45 cm | 90 x 70 x 160 cm | 240 x 410 x 715 mm |
| <strong>Weight</strong> | 27 kg | 30.5 kg | 35 kg |
| <strong>Shot Size/Volume</strong> | 145 g | 115 g | 38 cm&#179; |
| <strong>Voltage</strong> | 220V/110V | 100-240V, 50-60 Hz | 400W |</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1244668074930606172 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1244668074930606172><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/def5e0a7ff07e73d477a87df10a3dc4f-BFBB1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(153,45,34) title=Arcane#7800 data-user-id=437808476106784770>Arcane</span> <span class=chatlog__author-tag>BOT</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, May 27, 2024 5:06 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1244668074930606172>5/27/2024 5:06 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="azurite0693">@NoorPro</span> has reached level <strong>5</strong>. GG!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1244668316644151397 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1244668316644151397><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5df5dc97aa08308897ee2dc98ff95264-5AD6D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=azurite0693 data-user-id=1225203510312828950>NoorPro</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, May 27, 2024 5:07 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1244668316644151397>5/27/2024 5:07 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>wtf, you need another pro subscription on humanity&#39;s communication backbone, just for posting markdown tables</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1244684794491572346 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1244684794491572346><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5df5dc97aa08308897ee2dc98ff95264-5AD6D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=azurite0693 data-user-id=1225203510312828950>NoorPro</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, May 27, 2024 6:13 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1244684794491572346>5/27/2024 6:13 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>In the meantime, #notgivingafuck <a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/C5sGVAfLpTS">https://www.instagram.com/p/C5sGVAfLpTS</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(206,0,114,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><img class=chatlog__embed-author-icon src=media-ose/438733321_346157724627391_2221761621441647-B50EA.jpg alt="Author icon" loading=lazy onerror="this.style.visibility='hidden'"> <a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.instagram.com/laranjasolta><div class=chatlog__embed-author>laranjasolta</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve"><img
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title="brain"
src="media-ose/1f9e0-EF3BF.svg"> Este &#233; Handy Geng, um youtuber chin&#234;s reconhecido por suas inven&#231;&#245;es criativas.
O ve&#237;culo, feito principalmente de PVC e madeira, &#233; um trailer de pesca anf&#237;bio que pode percorrer estradas e navegar sobre as &#225;guas.<img
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title="🛥"
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Apesar de sua simplicidade, este curioso projeto de ve&#237;culo anf&#237;bio &#233; bem completo, contando com TV, ventilador, ilumina&#231;&#227;o, gr...</div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-fields><div class="chatlog__embed-field chatlog__embed-field--inline"><div class=chatlog__embed-field-name><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Likes</div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-field-value><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">911465</div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="chatlog__embed-images chatlog__embed-images--single"><div class=chatlog__embed-image-container><a class=chatlog__embed-image-link href=media-ose/437153335_1458429488216124_141414614063905-D663F.jpg> <img class=chatlog__embed-image src=media-ose/437153335_1458429488216124_141414614063905-D663F.jpg alt=Image loading=lazy> </a></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-footer><img class=chatlog__embed-footer-icon src=media-ose/68d99ba29cc8-B525E.png alt="Footer icon" loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__embed-footer-text> Instagram </span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1245082153063157862 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1245082153063157862><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5df5dc97aa08308897ee2dc98ff95264-5AD6D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=azurite0693 data-user-id=1225203510312828950>NoorPro</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, May 28, 2024 8:31 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1245082153063157862>5/28/2024 8:31 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>random, no C64 or Amiga collection :)) <a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/C7gSwemoV-0/">https://www.instagram.com/p/C7gSwemoV-0/</a>
your mini-me, it&#39;s in the happening : <a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/C6uS0-hSKQz/">https://www.instagram.com/p/C6uS0-hSKQz/</a></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Tuesday, May 28, 2024 8:32 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1246069751516631054 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1246069751516631054><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5df5dc97aa08308897ee2dc98ff95264-5AD6D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=azurite0693 data-user-id=1225203510312828950>NoorPro</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, May 31, 2024 1:56 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1246069751516631054>5/31/2024 1:56 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>AI - OS Playground: <a href="http://osr@osr-plastic.org">http://osr@osr-plastic.org</a> (user:free@osr-plastic.org | password: free@osr-plastic.org). Image processing : use llava! There are more models, <a href="https://ollama.com/library">https://ollama.com/library</a>, you can sign up for new sessions as well</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Friday, May 31, 2024 1:57 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1246069786233016401 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1246069786233016401><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, May 31, 2024 1:56 PM">1:56 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-7B5B9.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-7B5B9.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (191.45 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1246070066634686575 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1246070066634686575><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, May 31, 2024 1:57 PM">1:57 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>otherwise : <a href="https://lmstudio.ai/">https://lmstudio.ai/</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(11,26,72,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://lmstudio.ai/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve"><img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="👾"
title="space_invader"
src="media-ose/1f47e-31E6C.svg"> LM Studio - Discover and run local LLMs</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Find, download, and experiment with local LLMs</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/cover-photo-38799.png> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/cover-photo-38799.png alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1246099742505570314 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1246099742505570314><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5df5dc97aa08308897ee2dc98ff95264-5AD6D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=azurite0693 data-user-id=1225203510312828950>NoorPro</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, May 31, 2024 3:55 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1246099742505570314>5/31/2024 3:55 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>After lonely in a hotel room, debugging a mysterious UDP stream, read &#39;debugging western websites&#39;, in the Antarctica
<a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34912300">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34912300</a>
<a href="https://brr.fyi/posts/engineering-for-slow-internet">https://brr.fyi/posts/engineering-for-slow-internet</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,102,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><div class=chatlog__embed-author>nop_slide</div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34912300"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Reverse engineering a mysterious UDP stream in my hotel (2016)</div></a></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-footer><img class=chatlog__embed-footer-icon src=media-ose/y18-27627.gif alt="Footer icon" loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__embed-footer-text> Hacker News • 2/23/2023 5:06 PM </span></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(17,16,22,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://brr.fyi/posts/engineering-for-slow-internet><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Engineering for Slow Internet – brr</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">How to minimize user frustration in Antarctica.</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/engineering-for-slow-internet-icon-70656.png> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/engineering-for-slow-internet-icon-70656.png alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1246448520592883752 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1246448520592883752><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5df5dc97aa08308897ee2dc98ff95264-5AD6D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=azurite0693 data-user-id=1225203510312828950>NoorPro</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, June 1, 2024 3:01 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1246448520592883752>6/1/2024 3:01 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>lovely, the times of writing awful code and regular expressions are counted <img
loading="lazy"
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alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-71B3E.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-71B3E.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (51.61 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1246448956477669397 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1246448956477669397><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, June 1, 2024 3:03 PM">3:03 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>yet to be figured : compose new models, with multi-expert architecture and real-time data access ( voice, vision, and perhaps sensor data)</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Saturday, June 1, 2024 3:03 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1246470261847625852 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1246470261847625852><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5df5dc97aa08308897ee2dc98ff95264-5AD6D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=azurite0693 data-user-id=1225203510312828950>NoorPro</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, June 1, 2024 4:27 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1246470261847625852>6/1/2024 4:27 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>yammi, PDF retrival works well, after punching it strong enough, making all explicit,
<code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--multiline nohighlight">--query=&#39;extract ALL! items as markdown table (item name (without 304 or ST37) / price / quantity / material (whereby ST37 is steel, and 304 is stainless)) , add the totals (from the pdf, dont calculate it) at the end</code>
OS models unfortunately a bit slow and do make stuff up <img
loading="lazy"
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title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-BC172.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-BC172.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (174.2 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-0E466.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-0E466.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (145.09 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1246470703918616637 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1246470703918616637><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, June 1, 2024 4:29 PM">4:29 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Looks like we need a new language for all that <img
loading="lazy"
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alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1246926942628741221 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1246926942628741221><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5df5dc97aa08308897ee2dc98ff95264-5AD6D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=azurite0693 data-user-id=1225203510312828950>NoorPro</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, June 2, 2024 10:42 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1246926942628741221>6/2/2024 10:42 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Amen,
<a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@thecoffeejesus/video/7369429237100465438">https://www.tiktok.com/@thecoffeejesus/video/7369429237100465438</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(254,44,85,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.tiktok.com/@thecoffeejesus/video/7369429237100465438><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">TikTok &#183; Just Some Guy</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">56.8K likes, 3979 comments. “Feel the AGI they said… :/”</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/owe7KFbEEQSIA5R0XKfLgzmAR3VEmDVKECQYB3~tpl-6235F.jpeg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/owe7KFbEEQSIA5R0XKfLgzmAR3VEmDVKECQYB3~tpl-6235F.jpeg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1247588462518079518 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1247588462518079518><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5df5dc97aa08308897ee2dc98ff95264-5AD6D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=azurite0693 data-user-id=1225203510312828950>NoorPro</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, June 4, 2024 6:31 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1247588462518079518>6/4/2024 6:31 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>the ultimate dive into bullshit collection:
<ul><li><a href="https://www.aleksandra.codes/tech-content-consumer">https://www.aleksandra.codes/tech-content-consumer</a></li><li><a href="https://www.math.mcgill.ca/rags/JAC/124/bs.html">https://www.math.mcgill.ca/rags/JAC/124/bs.html</a></li><li><a href="https://www.professorsapp.com/cohen--further-into-bullshi.pdf">https://www.professorsapp.com/cohen--further-into-bullshi.pdf</a></li></ul></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.aleksandra.codes/tech-content-consumer><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Most tech content is bullshit</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">“One of the great commandments of science is, &quot;Mistrust arguments from authority.&quot; Too many such arguments have proved too painfully wrong. Authorities must prove their contentions like everybody else.” ~ Carl Sagan</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/og-C1B6A> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/og-C1B6A alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1247588662850490388 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1247588662850490388><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, June 4, 2024 6:31 PM">6:31 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>goes well with the lessons found in Buddhism, trust your master, dont trust anyone</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Tuesday, June 4, 2024 6:32 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1247875725206491276 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1247875725206491276><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5df5dc97aa08308897ee2dc98ff95264-5AD6D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=azurite0693 data-user-id=1225203510312828950>NoorPro</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, June 5, 2024 1:32 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1247875725206491276>6/5/2024 1:32 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>nice,
src: <a href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Open_Source_Product_Development">https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Open_Source_Product_Development</a>
prompt: <code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--multiline nohighlight">write this as markdown, each branch as chapter, bullet points, numbered, for mermaid</code></span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/Open_Source_Product_Development_Method_-_R-DA439.jpg> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/Open_Source_Product_Development_Method_-_R-DA439.jpg alt="Image attachment" title="Image: Open_Source_Product_Development_Method_-_Roadmap.jpg (99.77 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Open_Source_Product_Development><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Open Source Product Development</div></a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1247875786829205577 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1247875786829205577><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, June 5, 2024 1:32 PM">1:32 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--multiline language-mermaid">graph TB
A[Open Source Product Development - Milestones 2016-2017 Roadmap]
A --&gt; A1[Design]
A --&gt; B1[CAD]
A --&gt; C1[Documentation]
A --&gt; D1[Collaboration Architecture]
A --&gt; E1[Enterprise]
A --&gt; F1[Build]
A1 --&gt; A2[Core Design Information Architecture]
A1 --&gt; A3[Machine Design Guides]
A1 --&gt; A4[SME Advisory Team Formed]
A1 --&gt; A5[Design Webinars]
A1 --&gt; A6[Test-Driven Design Webinars]
A1 --&gt; A7[Design-Build School]
B1 --&gt; B2[Open Source 3D CAD - FreeCAD Instructionals]
B1 --&gt; B3[FreeCAD Part Libraries Developed]
B1 --&gt; B4[CAE, CAM, exploded part animations, reverse engineering, 3D scanning, architecture design]
B1 --&gt; B5[File Conversion Tool]
B1 --&gt; B6[Cloud Collaborative CAD Solution]
C1 --&gt; C2[Core Documentation Information Architecture]
C1 --&gt; C3[Wiki Part Library Templates]
C1 --&gt; C4[Semantic Mediawiki Information Architecture Standards]
C1 --&gt; C5[Real-time Build Documentation Protocols]
C1 --&gt; C6[Collaborative Video Editing Protocols]
C1 --&gt; C7[Book/Manual Publishing]
D1 --&gt; D2[Role Architecture]
D1 --&gt; D3[Robust Identity/Login]
D1 --&gt; D4[Collaborative Literacy Training]
D1 --&gt; D5[Development Forum + Issue Tracker]
D1 --&gt; D6[Upvoting Platform like Stack Overflow]
D1 --&gt; D7[Publishing Templates]
D1 --&gt; D8[Team Formation]
E1 --&gt; E2[Core Information Architecture]
E1 --&gt; E3[OS Mass Email]
E1 --&gt; E4[Core Business Competency Training]
E1 --&gt; E5[Open Business Models Library]
E1 --&gt; E6[Entrepreneur-in-Residence Program]
E1 --&gt; E7[Collaborative Marketing Strategy]
F1 --&gt; F2[Replicable Build Workshop Model]
F1 --&gt; F3[Local Sourcing Development]
F1 --&gt; F4[Product Ecology for Flexible Fabrication]
F1 --&gt; F5[Open Source Construction]
F1 --&gt; F6[Open Source Micro Factory]
F1 --&gt; F7[Open Source Micro Factory Equipment]</code></span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1248359141827809380 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1248359141827809380><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5df5dc97aa08308897ee2dc98ff95264-5AD6D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=azurite0693 data-user-id=1225203510312828950>NoorPro</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, June 6, 2024 9:33 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1248359141827809380>6/6/2024 9:33 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Podcast : &#39;AI&#39; &amp; Semiconductors : The Software Behind Silicon (with Synopsys Founder Aart de Geus and CEO Sassine Ghazi)
<a href="https://www.acquired.fm/episodes/the-software-behind-silicon-with-synopsys-founder-aart-de-geus-and-ceo-sassine-ghazi">https://www.acquired.fm/episodes/the-software-behind-silicon-with-synopsys-founder-aart-de-geus-and-ceo-sassine-ghazi</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.acquired.fm/episodes/the-software-behind-silicon-with-synopsys-founder-aart-de-geus-and-ceo-sassine-ghazi><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">The Software Behind Silicon (with Synopsys Founder Aart de Geus and...</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Learn about the $80 billion company that makes the software behind AI, mobile, and automotive chips. Plus: are we at the end of Moore&#39;s Law?</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/663907a1c7331d215089b739_ACQ%2520Thumb%252-FE5FB.jpg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/663907a1c7331d215089b739_ACQ%2520Thumb%252-FE5FB.jpg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1248359385374396527 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1248359385374396527><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, June 6, 2024 9:34 PM">9:34 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="vegan_anticucho">@Roland</span> : unlikely we&#39;re tuning models for circuits tho <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> couldn&#39;t even find anything useful for dealing with points in 2D ... \</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1248747995265106012 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1248747995265106012><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5df5dc97aa08308897ee2dc98ff95264-5AD6D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=azurite0693 data-user-id=1225203510312828950>NoorPro</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, June 7, 2024 11:18 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1248747995265106012>6/7/2024 11:18 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>and in case you&#39;re bored, ChatGPTo image encoding
<a href="https://www.oranlooney.com/post/gpt-cnn/">https://www.oranlooney.com/post/gpt-cnn/</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.oranlooney.com/post/gpt-cnn/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">A Picture is Worth 170 Tokens: How Does GPT-4o Encode Images? - Ora...</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Here’s a fact: GPT-4o charges 170 tokens to process each 512x512 tile used in high-res mode. At ~0.75 tokens/word, this suggests a picture is worth about 227 words—only a factor of four off from the traditional saying.
(There’s also an 85 tokens charge for a low-res ‘master thumbnail’ of each picture and higher resolution images are broken into ...</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1249040541052833936 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1249040541052833936><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5df5dc97aa08308897ee2dc98ff95264-5AD6D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=azurite0693 data-user-id=1225203510312828950>NoorPro</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, June 8, 2024 6:41 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1249040541052833936>6/8/2024 6:41 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>not too bad, &#39;create a chess board, ... with check mate, indicated with red lines&#39; , using gpt-4-1106-vision-preview</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-EB059.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-EB059.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (39.81 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1249040543170957424 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1249040543170957424><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/def5e0a7ff07e73d477a87df10a3dc4f-BFBB1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(153,45,34) title=Arcane#7800 data-user-id=437808476106784770>Arcane</span> <span class=chatlog__author-tag>BOT</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, June 8, 2024 6:41 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1249040543170957424>6/8/2024 6:41 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="azurite0693">@NoorPro</span> has reached level <strong>6</strong>. GG!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1249040793348608020 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1249040793348608020><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5df5dc97aa08308897ee2dc98ff95264-5AD6D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=azurite0693 data-user-id=1225203510312828950>NoorPro</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, June 8, 2024 6:42 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1249040793348608020>6/8/2024 6:42 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>same for welding instructions</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-E044A.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-E044A.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (226.53 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1249040970323071018 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1249040970323071018><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, June 8, 2024 6:42 PM">6:42 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>guessing part dimensions</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-2E9E5.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-2E9E5.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (16.47 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1249041149856055326 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1249041149856055326><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, June 8, 2024 6:43 PM">6:43 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>or inspection reports:</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-C447D.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-C447D.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (31.87 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1249041396199850045 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1249041396199850045><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, June 8, 2024 6:44 PM">6:44 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>and with a bit tuning, creating work piece measurements, on a heidenhain, let&#39;s hope its not crashing</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-51D85.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-51D85.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (61.42 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1249041689713053749 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1249041689713053749><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, June 8, 2024 6:45 PM">6:45 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>and didnt miss to ruin my day, creating the GCode to weld it on the CNC instead :))</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-1C16B.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-1C16B.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (42.86 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1249042222972665940 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1249042222972665940><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, June 8, 2024 6:47 PM">6:47 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>&#39;create a solved maze, in SVG&#39; :))
lazy lazy</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-98B3A.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-98B3A.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (4.03 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1249043350720352338 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1249043350720352338><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, June 8, 2024 6:52 PM">6:52 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>and here the HQ intro : <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@rileybrown.ai/video/7369422671806876970">https://www.tiktok.com/@rileybrown.ai/video/7369422671806876970</a>
#whenikissedtheteacher <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="💃"
title="dancer"
src="media-ose/1f483-F1B1B.svg"></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.tiktok.com/@rileybrown.ai/video/7369422671806876970><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">TikTok &#183; Riley Brown</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">4782 likes, 235 comments. “This image is AI generated. Will it replace canva? Only time will tell.”</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/os8MWFfAcRvfe1mFICQuQ8kfIcF8ZQAbROhGAb~tpl-1653C.jpeg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/os8MWFfAcRvfe1mFICQuQ8kfIcF8ZQAbROhGAb~tpl-1653C.jpeg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1249819470369914920 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1249819470369914920><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5df5dc97aa08308897ee2dc98ff95264-5AD6D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=azurite0693 data-user-id=1225203510312828950>NoorPro</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, June 10, 2024 10:16 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1249819470369914920>6/10/2024 10:16 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>cute little movie, <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt12758060/?ref_=tt_rvi_tt_i_3">https://www.imdb.com/title/tt12758060/?ref_=tt_rvi_tt_i_3</a>
the equation for self-run fits on one line, nice exercise - and no license needed <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt12758060/?ref_=tt_rvi_tt_i_3"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Tetris (2023) ⭐ 7.4 | Biography, Drama, History</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">1h 58m | R</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/MV5BZmZmNTdiYjMtZDdmNi00ZGU4LThkYmQtZTFhZW-D9D99.jpg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/MV5BZmZmNTdiYjMtZDdmNi00ZGU4LThkYmQtZTFhZW-D9D99.jpg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1250056766557786206 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1250056766557786206><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5df5dc97aa08308897ee2dc98ff95264-5AD6D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=azurite0693 data-user-id=1225203510312828950>NoorPro</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, June 11, 2024 1:59 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1250056766557786206>6/11/2024 1:59 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>save that bee, save that car, &#39;memorize these sounds&#39;, legit case for a cool AI app : <a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/C7WWm9oRMEa/">https://www.instagram.com/p/C7WWm9oRMEa/</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(206,0,114,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><img class=chatlog__embed-author-icon src=media-ose/434238675_2384892558367480_832136061812567-296D8.jpg alt="Author icon" loading=lazy onerror="this.style.visibility='hidden'"> <a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.instagram.com/master_driver666><div class=chatlog__embed-author>master_driver666</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">How to judge engine failure through abnormal noise.#driving #skills #knowledge #fpy</div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-fields><div class="chatlog__embed-field chatlog__embed-field--inline"><div class=chatlog__embed-field-name><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Likes</div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-field-value><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">293919</div></div></div></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-footer><img class=chatlog__embed-footer-icon src=media-ose/68d99ba29cc8-B525E.png alt="Footer icon" loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__embed-footer-text> Instagram </span></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1250056977132814377 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1250056977132814377><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, June 11, 2024 2:00 PM">2:00 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>after drilling kilometers through metal, I&#39;d love to have something like this on my drillpress as well <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1250554776882778182 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1250554776882778182><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5df5dc97aa08308897ee2dc98ff95264-5AD6D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=azurite0693 data-user-id=1225203510312828950>NoorPro</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, June 12, 2024 10:58 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1250554776882778182>6/12/2024 10:58 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>random : AI meets &#39;Education&#39; : <a href="https://www.chatterpulseai.com/blog/ai-in-education-may-require-us-to-return-to-15th-century-pedagogy/?r=hn">https://www.chatterpulseai.com/blog/ai-in-education-may-require-us-to-return-to-15th-century-pedagogy/?r=hn</a></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1250555109486624899 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1250555109486624899><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, June 12, 2024 10:59 PM">10:59 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>&#39;Knowledge is in the process of being “commoditized.” The marginal value of any fact is nearing zero. And we cannot change this.&#39; - and yet, the privileged self proclaimed charlatans still control us, knowledge, trade, communication, even in so called &#39;Opensource&#39; projects <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1251312419184054382 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1251312419184054382><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5df5dc97aa08308897ee2dc98ff95264-5AD6D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=azurite0693 data-user-id=1225203510312828950>NoorPro</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, June 15, 2024 1:08 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1251312419184054382>6/15/2024 1:08 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>hotspot hopping in Gaza, <a href="https://globalvoices.org/2024/06/13/the-ingenious-network-tree-defying-gazas-connectivity-blockade/">https://globalvoices.org/2024/06/13/the-ingenious-network-tree-defying-gazas-connectivity-blockade/</a>
still no Guifi node around ... <a href="https://guifi.net/">https://guifi.net/</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href="https://globalvoices.org/author/mariam-abuadas/"><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Mariam A.</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://globalvoices.org/2024/06/13/the-ingenious-network-tree-defying-gazas-connectivity-blockade/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">The ingenious ‘network tree’ defying Gaza&#39;s connectivity blockade</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">An interview with renowned Italian film director Manolo Luppichini highlights grassroots efforts in Gaza to counter communication blockades using simple technologies like ”Web Trees,“ addressing global double standards and resistance of cultural genocide.</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/Screen-Shot-2024-06-10-at-19.20.50-800x450-2CB05.png> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/Screen-Shot-2024-06-10-at-19.20.50-800x450-2CB05.png alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1251312693877411965 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1251312693877411965><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, June 15, 2024 1:09 AM">1:09 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>and have a jump at <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enTAromEeHo&amp;ab_channel=FUTO">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enTAromEeHo&amp;ab_channel=FUTO</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIBNAd4nO5rk6G8YaEudqNw><div class=chatlog__embed-author>FUTO</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enTAromEeHo"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Ian Clarke Breaks Down His Vision for a Decentralized Internet</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/enTAromEeHo width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1251313233634267136 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1251313233634267136><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, June 15, 2024 1:12 AM">1:12 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>well, at least we tried right ? <img
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<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_distributed_file_systems">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_distributed_file_systems</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_distributed_file_systems><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Comparison of distributed file systems</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">In computing, a distributed file system (DFS) or network file system is any file system that allows access to files from multiple hosts sharing via a computer network. This makes it possible for multiple users on multiple machines to share files and storage resources.
Distributed file systems differ in their performance, mutability of content, h...</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1253028263761154089 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1253028263761154089><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5df5dc97aa08308897ee2dc98ff95264-5AD6D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=azurite0693 data-user-id=1225203510312828950>NoorPro</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, June 19, 2024 6:46 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1253028263761154089>6/19/2024 6:46 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>okey,
lets start with the f*** good news : <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@kellermankomedy/video/7373028074880765226">https://www.tiktok.com/@kellermankomedy/video/7373028074880765226</a>
content industry keeps spiraling down : <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@lizabeth.helian/video/7371913556616416545">https://www.tiktok.com/@lizabeth.helian/video/7371913556616416545</a> - whilst new AI video generators unleash plenty of power at your finger tips : <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@iamkylebalmer/video/7362126294244494625">https://www.tiktok.com/@iamkylebalmer/video/7362126294244494625</a> (AI rat race, east vs sleepy west)
take care of your underwear : <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@elle.cordova/video/7381122928118615327">https://www.tiktok.com/@elle.cordova/video/7381122928118615327</a>
my fav. <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@pissedmagistus/video/7378162895944748320">https://www.tiktok.com/@pissedmagistus/video/7378162895944748320</a> - suffering increasingly shadow banning</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(254,44,85,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.tiktok.com/@kellermankomedy/video/7373028074880765226><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">TikTok &#183; The Real Kellerman</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">4607 likes, 175 comments. “May 25, 2024”</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/18cb2b63e0e34b548b4bc1363f958fe8_171666687-16737.jpeg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/18cb2b63e0e34b548b4bc1363f958fe8_171666687-16737.jpeg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.tiktok.com/@lizabeth.helian/video/7371913556616416545><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">TikTok &#183; lizabeth.helian</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">24.3K likes, 3920 comments. Check out lizabeth.helian’s video.</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/oowBQAEaTkqiZFTBL0Ttj8SyIPyEOB61cp15i~tplv-764D3.jpeg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/oowBQAEaTkqiZFTBL0Ttj8SyIPyEOB61cp15i~tplv-764D3.jpeg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(254,44,85,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.tiktok.com/@iamkylebalmer/video/7362126294244494625><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">TikTok &#183; iamkylebalmer</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">587 likes, 91 comments. “China’s AI progress outstrips the West. And we’re not paying attention. Instead, as always, we are getting bogged down in unimportant short term political crap”</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/f691eee1642a448198e716ee67f1abe4_171412861-80120.jpeg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/f691eee1642a448198e716ee67f1abe4_171412861-80120.jpeg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.tiktok.com/@elle.cordova/video/7381122928118615327><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">TikTok &#183; Elle Cordova</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">23.7K likes, 433 comments. “Should have just upgraded to Memory Keeper premium”</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/95f8ed541a1b4734a6377a94e724afa6_171855163-76BFE.jpeg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/95f8ed541a1b4734a6377a94e724afa6_171855163-76BFE.jpeg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(254,44,85,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.tiktok.com/@pissedmagistus/video/7378162895944748320><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">TikTok &#183; PissedMagistus</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">14K likes, 463 comments. “How to make people participate.”</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/3d5da240b7cf4b0ca7014c6ac26cb627_171786244-73392.jpeg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/3d5da240b7cf4b0ca7014c6ac26cb627_171786244-73392.jpeg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1253029841398403183 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1253029841398403183><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, June 19, 2024 6:53 PM">6:53 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>and the best for the rest, and literally a bible of OSHA violations, but getting shit done, for a fraction : <a href="https://www.instagram.com/smartest.worker/">https://www.instagram.com/smartest.worker/</a>
#notgivingafu**</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Wednesday, June 19, 2024 6:53 PM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-35F5D.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-35F5D.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (1.9 MB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,255,255,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.instagram.com/smartest.worker/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Smartest Workers (@smartest.worker) • Instagram photos and videos</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">3M Followers, 0 Following, 1,260 Posts - See Instagram photos and videos from Smartest Workers (@smartest.worker)</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/320226312_705639934511951_4847587076451733-0BB2A.jpg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/320226312_705639934511951_4847587076451733-0BB2A.jpg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1254810235076608000 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1254810235076608000><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5df5dc97aa08308897ee2dc98ff95264-5AD6D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=azurite0693 data-user-id=1225203510312828950>NoorPro</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, June 24, 2024 4:47 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1254810235076608000>6/24/2024 4:47 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Alrighty,
good bye static blogs / content <img
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AI aided content creation : <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@brandnat/video/7377753084048510215">https://www.tiktok.com/@brandnat/video/7377753084048510215</a> - as mentioned a few months ago, will have to make the OSRL language public sometime <img
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src="media-ose/1f483-F1B1B.svg"></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(254,44,85,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.tiktok.com/@brandnat/video/7377753084048510215><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">TikTok &#183; Brand Nat | AI Automation</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">2969 likes, 127 comments. “New All in One blogging game changing tool!”</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/oIDTEoyuQBA1CiFuSYi0AIzBtCPwMA8MIAfpji~tpl-82F1A.jpeg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/oIDTEoyuQBA1CiFuSYi0AIzBtCPwMA8MIAfpji~tpl-82F1A.jpeg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1254810347366256692 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1254810347366256692><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, June 24, 2024 4:48 PM">4:48 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>consider her the AI queen of TikTok <img
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alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> (more here : <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@iamkylebalmer/video/7380031930856754464)">https://www.tiktok.com/@iamkylebalmer/video/7380031930856754464)</a></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Monday, June 24, 2024 4:53 PM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(254,44,85,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.tiktok.com/@iamkylebalmer/video/7380031930856754464)><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Visit TikTok to discover videos!</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Watch, follow, and discover more trending content.</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/poster-square-7940A.png> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/poster-square-7940A.png alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1254810487300816987 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1254810487300816987><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, June 24, 2024 4:48 PM">4:48 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Amazon meets small business : <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@iamtelesmar/video/7383105677377457451">https://www.tiktok.com/@iamtelesmar/video/7383105677377457451</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(254,44,85,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.tiktok.com/@iamtelesmar/video/7383105677377457451><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">TikTok &#183; Christian Telesmar</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">86K likes, 9981 comments. “You can purchase the board game directly with me (and not Amazon) by going to www.DisparityTrap.com. As a board game creator with a master&#39;s degree education in business and a passion for social justice, I&#39;ve found myself having to file for bankruptcy because Jeff Bezos and Amazon have stolen over $100k from my small b...</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/c97afd997be74cb0ab8dc0d38e19410c_171901326-B6D81.jpeg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/c97afd997be74cb0ab8dc0d38e19410c_171901326-B6D81.jpeg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1254810605026803813 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1254810605026803813><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, June 24, 2024 4:49 PM">4:49 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Fundamental questions for the next 10 years : <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@nate.b.jones/video/7380481688184409374">https://www.tiktok.com/@nate.b.jones/video/7380481688184409374</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.tiktok.com/@nate.b.jones/video/7380481688184409374><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">TikTok &#183; Nate</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">15.2K likes, 1259 comments. “What’s your take on these 3?”</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/o0LiBvBpVsAoRj2ktIvBRIk7CmovEAEiEiZyE~tplv-5132A.jpeg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/o0LiBvBpVsAoRj2ktIvBRIk7CmovEAEiEiZyE~tplv-5132A.jpeg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1254810867787366513 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1254810867787366513><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, June 24, 2024 4:50 PM">4:50 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Nothing new, even my mother in law considers this planet as a concentration camp, at 84 : <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@realinfinitetreasure/video/7376345543884180769">https://www.tiktok.com/@realinfinitetreasure/video/7376345543884180769</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(254,44,85,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.tiktok.com/@realinfinitetreasure/video/7376345543884180769><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">TikTok &#183; InfiniteTreasur3</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">5014 likes, 787 comments. “So let&#39;s change it then!!!”</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/okzejMBjvSfIICpEGAQ6SVLexMYgSLIGE0eEMB~tpl-E0B32.jpeg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/okzejMBjvSfIICpEGAQ6SVLexMYgSLIGE0eEMB~tpl-E0B32.jpeg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1254811036435877888 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1254811036435877888><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, June 24, 2024 4:51 PM">4:51 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Impossible in the west, China again stealing the show, <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@_edison.motors/video/7369665655634660614">https://www.tiktok.com/@_edison.motors/video/7369665655634660614</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.tiktok.com/@_edison.motors/video/7369665655634660614><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">TikTok &#183; Edison Motors</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">17.9K likes, 858 comments. “We visit a semi truck factory in China”</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/o0IOMmVEDBksHQRw8MQAKFEBtnDZoRDHRfKAeJ~tpl-B9CEE.jpeg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/o0IOMmVEDBksHQRw8MQAKFEBtnDZoRDHRfKAeJ~tpl-B9CEE.jpeg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1254811144548253806 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1254811144548253806><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, June 24, 2024 4:51 PM">4:51 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>AI driven SEO (on it:) :<a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@yangpten/video/7376400276107824391">https://www.tiktok.com/@yangpten/video/7376400276107824391</a> - with make.com</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Monday, June 24, 2024 4:51 PM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(254,44,85,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.tiktok.com/@yangpten/video/7376400276107824391><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">TikTok &#183; Yang</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">2997 likes, 50 comments. “How&#160;to&#160;build&#160;an&#160;AI&#160;SEO&#160;Parasite&#160;system&#160;in&#160;Make.com”</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/c32842c2c3f94ad6bdc9d4a3a3991a8e_171745205-504B6.jpeg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/c32842c2c3f94ad6bdc9d4a3a3991a8e_171745205-504B6.jpeg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1254811390309568635 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1254811390309568635><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, June 24, 2024 4:52 PM">4:52 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Adobe : pay/accept or else : <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@lukemianiyt/video/7377397680651177259">https://www.tiktok.com/@lukemianiyt/video/7377397680651177259</a> - thank you, another mega corp to walk away from - after so many years</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Monday, June 24, 2024 4:52 PM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(254,44,85,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.tiktok.com/@lukemianiyt/video/7377397680651177259><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">TikTok &#183; LukeMianiYT</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">213.8K likes, 10.1K comments. “#greenscreen is Adobe spying on hs? Wtf”</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/o0ytCBZmU4ALCi5BEiFDJwDE1EhcPBH4DgD1I~tplv-F52DF.jpeg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/o0ytCBZmU4ALCi5BEiFDJwDE1EhcPBH4DgD1I~tplv-F52DF.jpeg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1254811786834870284 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1254811786834870284><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, June 24, 2024 4:54 PM">4:54 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>and some sweets for the end, meet Elle, the wordsmith : <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@elle.cordova/video/7313013492691389739">https://www.tiktok.com/@elle.cordova/video/7313013492691389739</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.tiktok.com/@elle.cordova/video/7313013492691389739><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">TikTok &#183; Elle Cordova</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">97.3K likes, 3320 comments. “Seasons greetings from our little multinational empire <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🎄"
title="christmas_tree"
src="media-ose/1f384-418D7.svg">”</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/2ee8c5e7dfbf440cab6d0b12f0b88fbe_170269365-54244.jpeg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/2ee8c5e7dfbf440cab6d0b12f0b88fbe_170269365-54244.jpeg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1254812007002149035 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1254812007002149035><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, June 24, 2024 4:54 PM">4:54 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Lovely, to see the clowns pulverizing hundreds of thousands to reinvent the wheel at PreciousPlastic Mega Movement</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1254812211335921795 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1254812211335921795><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, June 24, 2024 4:55 PM">4:55 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>meet the question module, 5 years later <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1254812219104039015 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1254812219104039015><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, June 24, 2024 4:55 PM">4:55 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-F6683.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-F6683.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (60.47 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1254812462276939849 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1254812462276939849><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, June 24, 2024 4:56 PM">4:56 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>not too bad, 200k likes for an authentic maker video on Tiktok, and 10 pity likes for a &#39;recycled&#39; coaster from bottlelids, using a 10k setup, whilst feeding the mafia <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Monday, June 24, 2024 5:03 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1254834655320870983 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1254834655320870983><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5df5dc97aa08308897ee2dc98ff95264-5AD6D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=azurite0693 data-user-id=1225203510312828950>NoorPro</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, June 24, 2024 6:24 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1254834655320870983>6/24/2024 6:24 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>awesome, no more excuse for our minimal bottom effort losers
component break down</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-2B946.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-2B946.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (386.48 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1254834830525595719 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1254834830525595719><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, June 24, 2024 6:25 PM">6:25 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>surprisingly, it seems to have eyes, traveling to the other side <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-A9496.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-A9496.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (353.13 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1254835015045353546 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1254835015045353546><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, June 24, 2024 6:26 PM">6:26 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>cant wait this thing is meshing it out, calculating all the wires, terminals, ...
see you at the beach darling</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1255181570000551948 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1255181570000551948><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5df5dc97aa08308897ee2dc98ff95264-5AD6D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=azurite0693 data-user-id=1225203510312828950>NoorPro</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, June 25, 2024 5:23 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1255181570000551948>6/25/2024 5:23 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>10 dead already, ChatGPT has obviously its preferences, <code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--multiline nohighlight">create an image, with an Kenyan flag, and a protester</code> - the white saviors
<a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@bossette55/video/7384447909674110214?q=kenya&amp;t=1719328929904">https://www.tiktok.com/@bossette55/video/7384447909674110214?q=kenya&amp;t=1719328929904</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-C8DC2.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-C8DC2.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (854.02 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(254,44,85,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.tiktok.com/@bossette55/video/7384447909674110214?q=kenya&amp;t=1719328929904"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">TikTok &#183; Bossie<img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="👑"
title="crown"
src="media-ose/1f451-B565E.svg"><img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="💎"
title="gem"
src="media-ose/1f48e-0F688.svg">❣️</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">1774 likes, 142 comments. “Reject Reject Reject<img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="💪"
title="muscle"
src="media-ose/1f4aa-2FD27.svg"><img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🔥"
title="fire"
src="media-ose/1f525-8FE4F.svg">”</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/oUS69eOjoIthIqyCIMaglhGJLVeCACIJTQf1Nj~tpl-A09DE.jpeg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/oUS69eOjoIthIqyCIMaglhGJLVeCACIJTQf1Nj~tpl-A09DE.jpeg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1255184118929690686 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1255184118929690686><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5df5dc97aa08308897ee2dc98ff95264-5AD6D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=azurite0693 data-user-id=1225203510312828950>NoorPro</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, June 25, 2024 5:33 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1255184118929690686>6/25/2024 5:33 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>one wonders where the record high 565.000 kg in gold per year go ... <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg">
let&#39;s hope they kick those colonial bastards out, as in Senegal <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="💃"
title="dancer"
src="media-ose/1f483-F1B1B.svg"></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Tuesday, June 25, 2024 5:50 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1255447893402320966 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1255447893402320966><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5df5dc97aa08308897ee2dc98ff95264-5AD6D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=azurite0693 data-user-id=1225203510312828950>NoorPro</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, June 26, 2024 11:01 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1255447893402320966>6/26/2024 11:01 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>here the story behind, Omeriga again, plundering Africa <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@ahfreaq/video/7382672793080581419?q=%23kenya&amp;t=1719391912467">https://www.tiktok.com/@ahfreaq/video/7382672793080581419?q=%23kenya&amp;t=1719391912467</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(254,44,85,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.tiktok.com/@ahfreaq/video/7382672793080581419?q=%23kenya&amp;t=1719391912467"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">TikTok &#183; Isa</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">59.5K likes, 3613 comments. “RUTO HAS SOLD KENYA TO THE WEST.”</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/o05RqdE59mXZK0SdEjMvhKgEDfAbFDBeWBxmII~tpl-CF08F.jpeg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/o05RqdE59mXZK0SdEjMvhKgEDfAbFDBeWBxmII~tpl-CF08F.jpeg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1255447894538977340 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1255447894538977340><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/def5e0a7ff07e73d477a87df10a3dc4f-BFBB1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(153,45,34) title=Arcane#7800 data-user-id=437808476106784770>Arcane</span> <span class=chatlog__author-tag>BOT</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, June 26, 2024 11:01 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1255447894538977340>6/26/2024 11:01 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="azurite0693">@NoorPro</span> has reached level <strong>7</strong>. GG!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1255448050059448320 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1255448050059448320><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5df5dc97aa08308897ee2dc98ff95264-5AD6D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=azurite0693 data-user-id=1225203510312828950>NoorPro</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, June 26, 2024 11:02 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1255448050059448320>6/26/2024 11:02 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>not that cozy for the elite <img
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alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> <a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/C8q9uk_oaLg/">https://www.instagram.com/p/C8q9uk_oaLg/</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(206,0,114,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><img class=chatlog__embed-author-icon src=media-ose/274942841_1648943845497979_533185144954043-D5DAE.jpg alt="Author icon" loading=lazy onerror="this.style.visibility='hidden'"> <a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.instagram.com/aswaduhuru><div class=chatlog__embed-author>aswaduhuru</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Thieves being chased out of government</div></div></div></div><div class="chatlog__embed-images chatlog__embed-images--single"><div class=chatlog__embed-image-container><a class=chatlog__embed-image-link href=media-ose/449139144_493730733095539_4054461238069430-2CC04.jpg> <img class=chatlog__embed-image src=media-ose/449139144_493730733095539_4054461238069430-2CC04.jpg alt=Image loading=lazy> </a></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-footer><img class=chatlog__embed-footer-icon src=media-ose/68d99ba29cc8-B525E.png alt="Footer icon" loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__embed-footer-text> Instagram </span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1256329961300824064 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1256329961300824064><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5df5dc97aa08308897ee2dc98ff95264-5AD6D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=azurite0693 data-user-id=1225203510312828950>NoorPro</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, June 28, 2024 9:26 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1256329961300824064>6/28/2024 9:26 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>#occupymysoul #her - first they came for ... - now for your friends <img
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#happygrannies
<a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@brandnat/video/7374414344458718472">https://www.tiktok.com/@brandnat/video/7374414344458718472</a>
#fuckinggreatresearch</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Friday, June 28, 2024 9:27 PM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(254,44,85,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.tiktok.com/@brandnat/video/7374414344458718472><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">TikTok &#183; Brand Nat | AI Automation</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">824 likes, 96 comments. “AI replacing friends, girlfriends, boyfriends? Do you think this is unlikely or more likely with AI chatbots/devices/robotics?”</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/owyBiAAiMEoy1IBwUyCKpcI5jOLxBflAosVzcX~tpl-F526E.jpeg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/owyBiAAiMEoy1IBwUyCKpcI5jOLxBflAosVzcX~tpl-F526E.jpeg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1257576844417306624 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1257576844417306624><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, July 2, 2024 8:01 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1257576844417306624>7/2/2024 8:01 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://youtu.be/wTQeMkYRMcw">https://youtu.be/wTQeMkYRMcw</a> I haven&#39;t used this software yet but the video alone + the explanations make me feel he&#39;s built something I need for surely</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcWZY8dxd4HhlH5vY_Luzgw><div class=chatlog__embed-author>CyanVoxel</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTQeMkYRMcw"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">I&#39;m a Mess, so I&#39;m Making My Own File Organizer [TagStudio]</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/wTQeMkYRMcw width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1257619784875507864 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1257619784875507864><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5df5dc97aa08308897ee2dc98ff95264-5AD6D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall>Nohbdy Ahtall</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1257576844417306624')"> <a href="https://youtu.be/wTQeMkYRMcw">https://youtu.be/wTQeMkYRMcw</a> I haven&#39;t used this software yet but the video alone + the explanations make me feel he&#39;s built something I need for surely </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=azurite0693 data-user-id=1225203510312828950>NoorPro</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, July 2, 2024 10:52 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1257619784875507864>7/2/2024 10:52 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>that&#39;s right, a universal file explorer that supports various protocols, ssh, btfs (<a href="https://github.com/johang/btfs)">https://github.com/johang/btfs)</a>, Git as FS, and may be databases &amp; rest services would come in handy, ideally folks can add plugins, for automation, app building, ...</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Tuesday, July 2, 2024 10:55 AM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1257619844464115794 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1257619844464115794><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, July 2, 2024 10:52 AM">10:52 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/blocks-90D94.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/blocks-90D94.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: blocks.png (1.99 MB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image12-7389C.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image12-7389C.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image12.png (175.98 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/preview-98F66.jpg> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/preview-98F66.jpg alt="Image attachment" title="Image: preview.jpg (480.95 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1257620190464704522 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1257620190464704522><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, July 2, 2024 10:53 AM">10:53 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>nowadays, folks would have to purchase up to 2-3k in software, to extend their explorer with basic stuff, not to mention the mess on linux, leaving you with 5+ different file picker implementations <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1257634412426956841 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1257634412426956841><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5df5dc97aa08308897ee2dc98ff95264-5AD6D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=azurite0693 data-user-id=1225203510312828950>NoorPro</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, July 2, 2024 11:50 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1257634412426956841>7/2/2024 11:50 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Among common tasks as image conversions (on it <a href="https://git.osr-plastic.org/osr-plastic/osr-media)">https://git.osr-plastic.org/osr-plastic/osr-media)</a>, video transformation, we have now AI support allowing us to take your vacation pictures for a ride, creating new videos on the fly, or just creating SEO meta data, or descriptions subject to wiki articles - btw. having Wikimedia as VFS would be great as well, I can think of 100+ great extensions to spam Marcin&#39;s public brain with endless but dynamic annotations
<a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@stephengpope/video/7384476260098952491">https://www.tiktok.com/@stephengpope/video/7384476260098952491</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(254,44,85,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.tiktok.com/@stephengpope/video/7384476260098952491><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">TikTok &#183; Stephen | Content Automation</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">386 likes, 15 comments. “In this video I give you part 1 of how to generate faceless videos from scratch! part 2, 3 and so on will be uploaded a day apart.”</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/okSO5DrIWNFuHcSfEA512kMf27rQeAG9EQ1CCB~tpl-DEEB2.jpeg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/okSO5DrIWNFuHcSfEA512kMf27rQeAG9EQ1CCB~tpl-DEEB2.jpeg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1257634630098747425 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1257634630098747425><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, July 2, 2024 11:51 AM">11:51 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>make.com became the ultimate choice hacking shit together, we can do certainly better, Yahoo tried it with NewsPipes, ...</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1257634943153082439 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1257634943153082439><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, July 2, 2024 11:52 AM">11:52 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>or transcribing Tiktok channels, plenty of good stuff : <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@drrachelbarr/video/7380025467447053573">https://www.tiktok.com/@drrachelbarr/video/7380025467447053573</a> | <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@kwrt_/video/7383844902213373227">https://www.tiktok.com/@kwrt_/video/7383844902213373227</a></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Tuesday, July 2, 2024 11:52 AM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(254,44,85,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.tiktok.com/@drrachelbarr/video/7380025467447053573><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">TikTok &#183; DrRachelBarr</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">7616 likes, 723 comments. “Can AI acheive true consciousness?”</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/55b3026cf6d14bae93020e2ea7583a7e_171829608-E6D7D.jpeg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/55b3026cf6d14bae93020e2ea7583a7e_171829608-E6D7D.jpeg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(254,44,85,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.tiktok.com/@kwrt_/video/7383844902213373227><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">TikTok &#183; Kort</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">189K likes, 5840 comments. “how to be free!”</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/oMCl72YfjMEFTkHIC0Dxz4FKu66eAArIofXlQI~tpl-EDC17.jpeg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/oMCl72YfjMEFTkHIC0Dxz4FKu66eAArIofXlQI~tpl-EDC17.jpeg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1258851619173568673 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1258851619173568673><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5df5dc97aa08308897ee2dc98ff95264-5AD6D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=azurite0693 data-user-id=1225203510312828950>NoorPro</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, July 5, 2024 8:26 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1258851619173568673>7/5/2024 8:26 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Awesome, the preciousplastic gestapo not happy with an article, <a href="https://forum.osr-plastic.org/t/preciousplastic-review/11066">https://forum.osr-plastic.org/t/preciousplastic-review/11066</a> | asking again our server provider, defamtion, &#39;unfair competition&#39;, bla bla, <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="davohax">@justDave</span> <img
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which raises the question of content resilience indeed, to my knowledge there are only limited options to proxy content of the dark web, ideas are welcome
for the interested reader : <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@lizthedeveloper/video/7363446392431594798">https://www.tiktok.com/@lizthedeveloper/video/7363446392431594798</a> - its that easy, welcome to 2024 - dont forget your parents for the interview (as reported recently, 20%), xD</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Friday, July 5, 2024 8:33 PM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(254,44,85,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.tiktok.com/@lizthedeveloper/video/7363446392431594798><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">TikTok &#183; future infinitive <img
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src="media-ose/2638-E2850.svg">️</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">5577 likes, 346 comments. “Alright someone in your generation needs to learn this as a process- here’s how to set up a raspberry pi to actually anonymously send data, but mind that receiving it is another story altogether.”</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/b0242d6aadbb4aec803d6040be6316f2_171443597-F6D17.jpeg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/b0242d6aadbb4aec803d6040be6316f2_171443597-F6D17.jpeg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1262703143704199240 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1262703143704199240><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5df5dc97aa08308897ee2dc98ff95264-5AD6D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=azurite0693 data-user-id=1225203510312828950>NoorPro</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, July 16, 2024 11:31 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1262703143704199240>7/16/2024 11:31 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Overseen somewhere on OSE&#39;s wiki : <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfKMq-rYtnc&amp;t=1s&amp;ab_channel=TEDxTalks">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfKMq-rYtnc&amp;t=1s&amp;ab_channel=TEDxTalks</a>
#kidsarehonest
#fighting-the-99%-bullshit
#free-your-mind
#the-pervert-west
#mensworld</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Tuesday, July 16, 2024 2:11 PM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsT0YIqwnpJCM-mx7-gSA4Q><div class=chatlog__embed-author>TEDx Talks</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfKMq-rYtnc&amp;start=1"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">TEDxTucson George Land The Failure Of Success</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/ZfKMq-rYtnc width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1262703373526892576 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1262703373526892576><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, July 16, 2024 11:32 AM">11:32 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-51FF4.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-51FF4.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (456.62 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1262705051886162021 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1262705051886162021><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, July 16, 2024 11:39 AM">11:39 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Not surprised to see a so called moderator, of the &#39;opensource hardware&#39; &#39;movement bathing himself, elevating the imposters, sharks and parasites with self-centered, self-important and entirely selfish comments, disregarding, and degrading everyone else who actually got their hands dirty for once</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-547BE.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-547BE.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (51.75 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1262705141371637792 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1262705141371637792><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, July 16, 2024 11:39 AM">11:39 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="katharinaelleke">@katharinaelleke</span> - found a therapy place ? ... sign me up darling <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1262711602554081352 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1262711602554081352><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5df5dc97aa08308897ee2dc98ff95264-5AD6D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=azurite0693 data-user-id=1225203510312828950>NoorPro</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, July 16, 2024 12:05 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1262711602554081352>7/16/2024 12:05 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>btw. whats up with OSE ? There&#39;s just Marcin, Alex and a Catarine left ... <a href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges&amp;limit=500">https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges&amp;limit=500</a></span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1262841585150853120 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1262841585150853120><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5f2e719a9dac42a723b1b51646b8a4b4-F9D26.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=life_long_learner data-user-id=827415572111032350>Paul P.</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, July 16, 2024 8:41 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1262841585150853120>7/16/2024 8:41 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I was an apprentice in 2021, I’d like to go back again for another workshop
I know a few other apprentices spent the winter of 2021 there, but I don’t directly know anyone who stayed after that</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1262842910836129933 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1262842910836129933><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, July 16, 2024 8:46 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1262842910836129933>7/16/2024 8:46 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>When I feel that the D3D Pro v23.12 documentation is complete I will be doing a workshop in the Port Huron area! I will be posting about it a lot on here I’m sure haha</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1262843539159777441 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1262843539159777441><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, July 16, 2024 8:49 PM">8:49 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Some of what Marcin has been writing on the wiki would indicate that he’s gearing up for the launch of the first more commercialized release of the Seed Eco Home.</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=fire><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=🔥 src=media-ose/1f525-8FE4F.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>2</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1262843763185680415 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1262843763185680415><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5f2e719a9dac42a723b1b51646b8a4b4-F9D26.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich>Alexa</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1262843539159777441')"> Some of what Marcin has been writing on the wiki would indicate that he’s gearing up for the launch of the first more commercialized release of the Seed Eco Home. </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=life_long_learner data-user-id=827415572111032350>Paul P.</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, July 16, 2024 8:50 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1262843763185680415>7/16/2024 8:50 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Technically I owe him install labor for the first three Seed Eco-Homes</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1262844093810348094 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1262844093810348094><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5f2e719a9dac42a723b1b51646b8a4b4-F9D26.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich>Alexa</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1262842910836129933')"> When I feel that the D3D Pro v23.12 documentation is complete I will be doing a workshop in the Port Huron area! I will be posting about it a lot on here I’m sure haha </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=life_long_learner data-user-id=827415572111032350>Paul P.</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, July 16, 2024 8:51 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1262844093810348094>7/16/2024 8:51 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Whaaat I live in Detroit in the summer. I will totally come to such a future workshop</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1262845720357240882 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1262845720357240882><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, July 16, 2024 8:58 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1262845720357240882>7/16/2024 8:58 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>That’s awesome! I am planning for the first workshop to be a group build of the printer followed by test prints and Q&amp;A/instruction on 3D printing.</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=raised_hands><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=🙌 src=media-ose/1f64c-7C820.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>2</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1262877072615932014 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1262877072615932014><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5f2e719a9dac42a723b1b51646b8a4b4-F9D26.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=life_long_learner data-user-id=827415572111032350>Paul P.</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, July 16, 2024 11:02 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1262877072615932014>7/16/2024 11:02 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Just fair warning I am possibly cursed by all 3D printers and never got my D3D to print, but I am willing to give it another go</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=relaxed><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=☺️ src=media-ose/263a-99012.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>2</span></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1262877145538232382 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1262877145538232382><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, July 16, 2024 11:02 PM">11:02 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>It’s my own mental hurdle and mental challenge</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1262882020162539621 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1262882020162539621><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, July 16, 2024 11:22 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1262882020162539621>7/16/2024 11:22 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>For a stretch I was struggling to get mine to print properly. I can at least say it’s printing now <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1262908155063701606 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1262908155063701606><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, July 17, 2024 1:06 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1262908155063701606>7/17/2024 1:06 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Also, if anybody would like to buy an already working D3D Pro please let me know. I am confident that I can scale up to a 24”^3 (609.6mm^3) build volume if requested :)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1263006192461021235 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1263006192461021235><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich>Alexa</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1262845720357240882')"> That’s awesome! I am planning for the first workshop to be a group build of the printer followed by test prints and Q&amp;A/instruction on 3D printing. </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=303adastra data-user-id=457390086879969280>303adastra</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, July 17, 2024 7:35 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1263006192461021235>7/17/2024 7:35 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>What OSE-related projects are you planning on printing parts for with the D3D Pro?</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=heart><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=❤️ src=media-ose/2764-A3D25.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1263006504064253953 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1263006504064253953><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, July 17, 2024 7:36 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1263006504064253953>7/17/2024 7:36 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Definitely going to do the other machines that incorporate the universal axis like the circuit maker, cnc torch table, and cnc multi machine</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1263006772667482123 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1263006772667482123><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, July 17, 2024 7:38 AM">7:38 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Since this is off topic anyways I’m also available for custom CAD work and on demand 3D printing!</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=tools><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=🛠️ src=media-ose/1f6e0-D05A8.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1263007077492723774 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1263007077492723774><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich>Alexa</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1263006504064253953')"> Definitely going to do the other machines that incorporate the universal axis like the circuit maker, cnc torch table, and cnc multi machine </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=303adastra data-user-id=457390086879969280>303adastra</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, July 17, 2024 7:39 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1263007077492723774>7/17/2024 7:39 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Nice! Any plans on including a wire EDM machine to the ensemble? <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1263007447883317279 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1263007447883317279><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, July 17, 2024 7:40 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1263007447883317279>7/17/2024 7:40 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Those look so damn cool I want one</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1263007656248086540 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1263007656248086540><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, July 17, 2024 7:41 AM">7:41 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>The torch table can also be converted to a plasma table easily so I will hopefully be able to do the big sheets of metal on something like that</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=fire><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=🔥 src=media-ose/1f525-8FE4F.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1263008056434753596 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1263008056434753596><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, July 17, 2024 7:43 AM">7:43 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Ultimately, I want an entire workshop full of open source hardware tooling for basically any job up to and including aerospace, hydrogen production, etc</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=muscle><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=💪 src=media-ose/1f4aa-2FD27.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1263009508490477588 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1263009508490477588><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich>Alexa</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1263008056434753596')"> Ultimately, I want an entire workshop full of open source hardware tooling for basically any job up to and including aerospace, hydrogen production, etc </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=303adastra data-user-id=457390086879969280>303adastra</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, July 17, 2024 7:48 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1263009508490477588>7/17/2024 7:48 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I&#39;m kind of in the same boat, but primarily for homesteading</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=house_with_garden><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=🏡 src=media-ose/1f3e1-41629.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1263010123878764566 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1263010123878764566><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, July 17, 2024 7:51 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1263010123878764566>7/17/2024 7:51 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I will also be using my skills for that. :)
It is also my sacred duty to pass along my experiences and teach people how to provide for themselves and their community to the extent they are able.</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=heart><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=❤️ src=media-ose/2764-A3D25.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1263014204378710088 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1263014204378710088><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich>Alexa</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1263010123878764566')"> I will also be using my skills for that. :)
It is also my sacred duty to pass along my experiences and teach people how to provide for themselves and their community to the extent they are able. </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=303adastra data-user-id=457390086879969280>303adastra</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, July 17, 2024 8:07 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1263014204378710088>7/17/2024 8:07 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Always nice to come across souls with overlapping goals/aspirations <img
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src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> Maybe we should try and plan for a (virtual) build party or something</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Wednesday, July 17, 2024 8:08 AM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1263014205594800201 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1263014205594800201><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/def5e0a7ff07e73d477a87df10a3dc4f-BFBB1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(153,45,34) title=Arcane#7800 data-user-id=437808476106784770>Arcane</span> <span class=chatlog__author-tag>BOT</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, July 17, 2024 8:07 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1263014205594800201>7/17/2024 8:07 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="303adastra">@303adastra</span> has reached level <strong>9</strong>. GG!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1263016600156639344 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1263016600156639344><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, July 17, 2024 8:17 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1263016600156639344>7/17/2024 8:17 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Yeah I would love to do a lil party!</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1263017112692195348 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1263017112692195348><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, July 17, 2024 8:19 AM">8:19 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I just made an improvement to the printer that has made the quality increase so much at higher speeds. So happy lol</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=raised_hands><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=🙌 src=media-ose/1f64c-7C820.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1263017232351625216 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1263017232351625216><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, July 17, 2024 8:19 AM">8:19 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I could literally ramble about the printer for hours so this party sounds like a fire idea <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1263019321626726463 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1263019321626726463><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich>Alexa</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1263017232351625216')"> I could literally ramble about the printer for hours so this party sounds like a fire idea <img
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src="media-ose/1f4a1-15D2B.svg"> </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=303adastra data-user-id=457390086879969280>303adastra</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, July 17, 2024 8:27 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1263019321626726463>7/17/2024 8:27 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>We do have a voice channel. Maybe we should start using it to stream and chat about our builds <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1263019576841469952 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1263019576841469952><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich>Alexa</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1263017112692195348')"> I just made an improvement to the printer that has made the quality increase so much at higher speeds. So happy lol </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=303adastra data-user-id=457390086879969280>303adastra</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, July 17, 2024 8:28 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1263019576841469952>7/17/2024 8:28 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Congrats on the improvements!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1263019713521516614 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1263019713521516614><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, July 17, 2024 8:29 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1263019713521516614>7/17/2024 8:29 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I can hop into a voice channel if you’d like :)</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=thumbsup><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=👍 src=media-ose/1f44d-27259.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1263199161407242321 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1263199161407242321><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5df5dc97aa08308897ee2dc98ff95264-5AD6D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/5f2e719a9dac42a723b1b51646b8a4b4-F9D26.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=life_long_learner>Paul P.</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1262841585150853120')"> I was an apprentice in 2021, I’d like to go back again for another workshop
I know a few other apprentices spent the winter of 2021 there, but I don’t directly know anyone who stayed after that </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=azurite0693 data-user-id=1225203510312828950>NoorPro</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, July 17, 2024 8:22 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1263199161407242321>7/17/2024 8:22 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Thank you. So currently Marcin is busy with the SeedEcoHome project, financed via workshops/stem-projects ... ?
And all the other projects lack funding, infrastructure, concepts, ...
I love the power-drill idea, perhaps the solar story deserves more attention but mostly solved as many others. I can throw in solid designs/concepts for extrusion related processes, pelletizing (currently gaining traction again). I&#39;d love to shutdown his wiki, at least make it private, and maybe put a hugo instead in place, for finished projects though <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1263199439892385802 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1263199439892385802><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5f2e719a9dac42a723b1b51646b8a4b4-F9D26.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=life_long_learner data-user-id=827415572111032350>Paul P.</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, July 17, 2024 8:23 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1263199439892385802>7/17/2024 8:23 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Oh man, how did I miss that the heat exchanger could use some love</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1263233710044614777 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1263233710044614777><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5df5dc97aa08308897ee2dc98ff95264-5AD6D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=azurite0693 data-user-id=1225203510312828950>NoorPro</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, July 17, 2024 10:39 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1263233710044614777>7/17/2024 10:39 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><img
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src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> - well, I will ignore for a moment that sending individuals with a halfbaken rusty kitchen knife to a gun fight ends up same suicidal as we&#39;ve seen over the last decades, increasingly, farmers loosing their land, and life ... most of the production (tools, assets) imported/outsourced overseas, ... and sadly, most OS efforts decay sooner or later due to ownership/monetary problems, ....
not an expert but there&#39;s still plenty on the table empowering local communities at least with infrastructure, concepts, ... Marcin got this dead on, products as a solid power hand drill, backed up with math, algorithms, ... <img
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src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> could be the way in - till today I haven&#39;t seen a single OS hardware project/product which made it to market - RPI/Arduino still needs lithography, ...</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Wednesday, July 17, 2024 10:40 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1263235140398612522 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1263235140398612522><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, July 17, 2024 10:45 PM">10:45 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>dunno how its in the US, here in spain you won&#39;t be to able sell even a good drill press for a fraction, actions, second hand trade, production pretty much dead and down, same for the full silos of pelletizer companies, ..
#the-domino-has-begun | <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40986894">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40986894</a></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Wednesday, July 17, 2024 11:53 PM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,102,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><div class=chatlog__embed-author>speckx</div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40986894"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Panic at the Job Market</div></a></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-footer><img class=chatlog__embed-footer-icon src=media-ose/y18-27627.gif alt="Footer icon" loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__embed-footer-text> Hacker News • 7/17/2024 5:25 PM </span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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The looting of Congo’s natural resources is possible in part thanks to the constant destabilization by armed groups that has led to territorial disintegration...</div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-fields><div class="chatlog__embed-field chatlog__embed-field--inline"><div class=chatlog__embed-field-name><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Likes</div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-field-value><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">1812</div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="chatlog__embed-images chatlog__embed-images--single"><div class=chatlog__embed-image-container><a class=chatlog__embed-image-link href=media-ose/451436416_1015348650226696_841175117542584-2C523.jpg> <img class=chatlog__embed-image src=media-ose/451436416_1015348650226696_841175117542584-2C523.jpg alt=Image loading=lazy> </a></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-footer><img class=chatlog__embed-footer-icon src=media-ose/68d99ba29cc8-B525E.png alt="Footer icon" loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__embed-footer-text> Instagram </span></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(206,0,114,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.instagram.com/african_stream><div class=chatlog__embed-author>african_stream</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">‘WEST’S LACKEYS ARE HOUSE SLAVES’ - TRAOR&#201;
Burkina Faso President Ibrahim Traor&#233; met with his Malian and Nigerien counterparts on 6 July in Niamey, Niger, to create the Alliance of Sahel States Confederation. All three countries had successfully ousted Western-aligned leaders over the past few years.
In Niger, the 36-year-old president (@capi...</div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-fields><div class="chatlog__embed-field chatlog__embed-field--inline"><div class=chatlog__embed-field-name><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Likes</div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-field-value><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">42265</div></div></div></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-footer><img class=chatlog__embed-footer-icon src=media-ose/68d99ba29cc8-B525E.png alt="Footer icon" loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__embed-footer-text> Instagram </span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1264432871087673468 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1264432871087673468><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, July 21, 2024 6:04 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1264432871087673468>7/21/2024 6:04 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I&#39;m going to hang out in the voice channel for a little while if anyone wants to drop in :)</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=smiling_face_with_3_hearts><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=🥰 src=media-ose/1f970-85DC7.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>2</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1264549590812721223 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1264549590812721223><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5f2e719a9dac42a723b1b51646b8a4b4-F9D26.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich>Alexa</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1264432871087673468')"> I&#39;m going to hang out in the voice channel for a little while if anyone wants to drop in :) </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=life_long_learner data-user-id=827415572111032350>Paul P.</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, July 21, 2024 1:48 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1264549590812721223>7/21/2024 1:48 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>What did you end up working on?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1264552414669701130 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1264552414669701130><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, July 21, 2024 1:59 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1264552414669701130>7/21/2024 1:59 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="303adastra">@303adastra</span> and I spent a few hours talking open source tech while they worked on some home projects and I diagnosed issues with the D3D Pro</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=heart><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=❤️ src=media-ose/2764-A3D25.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>3</span></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1264552594102157342 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1264552594102157342><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, July 21, 2024 2:00 PM">2:00 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>They actually helped me solve the issue I was having with heat creep in my hot end.</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1264552742710673449 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1264552742710673449><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, July 21, 2024 2:01 PM">2:01 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I was able to fix that and the printer has been running successful prints since!</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1264553124589342772 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1264553124589342772><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, July 21, 2024 2:02 PM">2:02 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I&#39;m back in the general voice chat if anyone wants to join me this fine morning :)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1264785394034016388 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1264785394034016388><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, July 22, 2024 5:25 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1264785394034016388>7/22/2024 5:25 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I, like the menace I am, have reentered the voice chat</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=laughing><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=😆 src=media-ose/1f606-BE94E.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1264969316252782717 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1264969316252782717><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5df5dc97aa08308897ee2dc98ff95264-5AD6D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=azurite0693 data-user-id=1225203510312828950>NoorPro</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, July 22, 2024 5:36 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1264969316252782717>7/22/2024 5:36 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Lovely, Opensource-Hardware project @ planet earth - 2024 , pay or else, shut up or else, speak french or else, eat sh** or else, hit-and-run, hit-and-ban, ....
Glad they do actually admit it, it&#39;s about systematically scamming the public, young folks, for funds , ...</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Monday, July 22, 2024 6:04 PM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-950F2.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-950F2.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (69.24 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1264969495634645045 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1264969495634645045><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, July 22, 2024 5:37 PM">5:37 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="katharinaelleke">@katharinaelleke</span> - I hope you&#39;re fine darling - what a waste of people&#39;s money, talent and time - as predicted - squeezed out til the last drop (<a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/C8YH2rkSLel)">https://www.instagram.com/p/C8YH2rkSLel)</a></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Monday, July 22, 2024 9:30 PM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(206,0,114,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><img class=chatlog__embed-author-icon src=media-ose/436783167_1103110680948549_784908244639409-3A8B4.jpg alt="Author icon" loading=lazy onerror="this.style.visibility='hidden'"> <a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.instagram.com/mrearts><div class=chatlog__embed-author>mrearts</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-fields><div class="chatlog__embed-field chatlog__embed-field--inline"><div class=chatlog__embed-field-name><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Likes</div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-field-value><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">433795</div></div></div></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-footer><img class=chatlog__embed-footer-icon src=media-ose/68d99ba29cc8-B525E.png alt="Footer icon" loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__embed-footer-text> Instagram </span></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1264969875160563796 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1264969875160563796><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, July 22, 2024 5:38 PM">5:38 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-F29F2.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-F29F2.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (33.34 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1264970343358136380 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1264970343358136380><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, July 22, 2024 5:40 PM">5:40 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>If anyone has suggestions what to do about these ****, I don&#39;t see better than making this public though : <a href="https://forum.osr-plastic.org/t/preciousplastic-review/11066">https://forum.osr-plastic.org/t/preciousplastic-review/11066</a> (have a good stomach) - too many lost their savings, invests, and the elite &amp; their beloved &#39;community&#39; - cowardly stabbing you in the back, with amusement - it always can get lower apparently</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Monday, July 22, 2024 7:34 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1265410739468894390 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1265410739468894390><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5df5dc97aa08308897ee2dc98ff95264-5AD6D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=azurite0693 data-user-id=1225203510312828950>NoorPro</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, July 23, 2024 10:50 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1265410739468894390>7/23/2024 10:50 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>okey, let&#39;s hit them (<a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@quantumshifting/video/7392680599053536543">https://www.tiktok.com/@quantumshifting/video/7392680599053536543</a> | <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@newswithaburp/video/7382145373294300449)">https://www.tiktok.com/@newswithaburp/video/7382145373294300449)</a> <img
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still nothing really done, plenty on the table : <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@nate.b.jones/video/7390409416698383646">https://www.tiktok.com/@nate.b.jones/video/7390409416698383646</a>
got it so far working locally, within a markup language, and integrated as context menu, to work on/with files <img
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here a newsletter
<code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--multiline nohighlight">[%capture continents %]
[% osr-ai model:&quot;gpt-4o&quot; skip:false gui:true logLevel:&quot;trace&quot; filters:&quot;code&quot; %]
List all continents, as markdown bullet list, use ###Continents as caption, link every continent to wikipedia (only valid links:), dont comment [% osr-ai-end %]
[% endcapture %]
[%- capture continents -%][[ continents | html]][%- endcapture -%]
[%- include &quot;story_xl.html&quot; content:continents hrefTitle:&quot;Click me&quot; href:&quot;https://shop.osr-plastic.org/images/detailed/9/latest_white.png&quot; title:&quot;Story Title&quot; image-0:&quot;https://shop.osr-plastic.org/images/detailed/9/perspective-vintage-deluxe.jpg&quot; -%]
[%- include &quot;section_text.html&quot; content:intro -%]</code></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Tuesday, July 23, 2024 11:19 PM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(254,44,85,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.tiktok.com/@quantumshifting/video/7392680599053536543><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">TikTok &#183; quantumshifting</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">179.6K likes, 2366 comments. “<img
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alt="🪞"
title="mirror"
src="media-ose/1fa9e-29F6F.svg">the illusion of love. ”</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/19c551bde398442ca3acc5bdb5dda54b_172124259-6D552.jpeg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/19c551bde398442ca3acc5bdb5dda54b_172124259-6D552.jpeg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(254,44,85,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.tiktok.com/@newswithaburp/video/7382145373294300449)><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Visit TikTok to discover videos!</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Watch, follow, and discover more trending content.</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/poster-square-7940A.png> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/poster-square-7940A.png alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.tiktok.com/@nate.b.jones/video/7390409416698383646><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">TikTok &#183; Nate</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">1825 likes, 261 comments. “We can’t all sit here and point at each other and say “You build the production scaled application!” And yes there are a few exceptions that are scaled and early in the market, but they are rare”</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/oUgWpFBRVDmEklEEBAMrAyHqIf5yG8EEemQWAD~tpl-7A6C5.jpeg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/oUgWpFBRVDmEklEEBAMrAyHqIf5yG8EEemQWAD~tpl-7A6C5.jpeg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1265496976359686175 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1265496976359686175><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, July 24, 2024 4:33 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1265496976359686175>7/24/2024 4:33 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Behold, for I am once again in the voice chat :)</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=wave><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=👋 src=media-ose/1f44b-8A059.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1265504726619914311 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1265504726619914311><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich>Alexa</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1265496976359686175')"> Behold, for I am once again in the voice chat :) </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=303adastra data-user-id=457390086879969280>303adastra</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, July 24, 2024 5:03 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1265504726619914311>7/24/2024 5:03 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I shall join in a minute <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1265563163491831872 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1265563163491831872><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5df5dc97aa08308897ee2dc98ff95264-5AD6D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=azurite0693 data-user-id=1225203510312828950>NoorPro</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, July 24, 2024 8:56 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1265563163491831872>7/24/2024 8:56 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Hey Citizen &#39;Scientific&#39; Workshop - <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="davohax">@justDave</span> - head of Gestapo @ Gangland, our generous Mr. &#39;Opensource is just a license&#39; @ Opensource-Hardware-Project, the landscape dominated again by the west, americans, english and the french eating up whats left. India/Russia, Nerds, Opensource kicked out - in one way or another - much at the expense of your beloved community, stuck with embarrassing, faulty designs, driven into overpriced - official trusted - junk - &#39;the project&#39; left with not even one good design, mould or tech. Something to add ? I am still puzzled what purpose this serves, ...
Reviews stuck since the Joseph&#39;s takeover (&#39;you&#39;re just an uber driver&#39;) now we have &#39;Sigolene&#39; officially &#39;optimizing the process&#39;, of selling 2 awful manual shredders, a month - of course, with no skills, ... lovely, &#39;evolution of knowledge&#39; - banned &#39;from&#39; the community - xD</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Wednesday, July 24, 2024 4:30 PM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-4D3FA.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-4D3FA.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (115.27 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1265729578052223077 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1265729578052223077><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5df5dc97aa08308897ee2dc98ff95264-5AD6D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=azurite0693 data-user-id=1225203510312828950>NoorPro</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, July 24, 2024 7:57 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1265729578052223077>7/24/2024 7:57 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>btw. since you&#39;re here, <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="davohax">@justDave</span> - what you meant the other day, &#39;you are wasting your time, and Anne&#39;s money&#39; (200k damage, thanks to you $%^$%^%$^) ? , same for others, Roman, Garry, and dozen of private folks tricked into PP scam, ....
Just asking, PP used at Adidas, Nike, and the like, and yet - not a single cent of all the millions invested back into the public domain, that&#39;s where the money came from ... or was that just another hoax ?</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Wednesday, July 24, 2024 7:57 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1265730096631779430 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1265730096631779430><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, July 24, 2024 7:59 PM">7:59 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Looking at this desert, PP Discord server (good enough to promote your name though), since introduction, the same questions, and problems all over - not even a follow up article to help folks along ... this just stinks, nothing adds up.</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1265731135221010556 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1265731135221010556><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, July 24, 2024 8:03 PM">8:03 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>PP used for money laundering, drug-trafficking as said would make more sense though - that would explain all the brutality, lies, dirty tricks, ... on top of Dave&#39;s psychopathic symptoms, in constant denial, ... you name it</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1265731514012794880 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1265731514012794880><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, July 24, 2024 8:05 PM">8:05 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>--- but thank you, I never had so much fun <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1265741754737623082 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1265741754737623082><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/3-FB033.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=religious_eliot_782 data-user-id=1244120304662609992>Bullied to Death - Nr. 2</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, July 24, 2024 8:45 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1265741754737623082>7/24/2024 8:45 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>ok, sorry - didn&#39;t mean to make trouble here either. It&#39;s just weird, getting bullied, tricked, etc... by folks who make no sense at all. I remember Jason (developer of the sheetpress, pretty much the last OS guy around, similar feedback ) calling me up 2 years ago, at night, extremely disturbed about PP Gang, said something about &#39;that are not good people, there&#39;s a reason I will move far away from them ... &#39;. Anyway, will shutup as requested <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1265780789904281753 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1265780789904281753><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/0736e1fa4ba673211cf38467cf7dcb77-32DAF.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=aneaseoz1362 data-user-id=978167621839118386>Echte Frohnatur</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, July 24, 2024 11:20 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1265780789904281753>7/24/2024 11:20 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Interesting, being set to &#39;silent&#39;, for 6 days, ... timeout, didn&#39;t know OSE is following the usual american style, shut up or else style as seen in the rest of the world <img
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src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> Mind to explain ? I can try sugarcoating the questions a bit if you like <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1265897735693799445 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1265897735693799445><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/4-4551A.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=uxrifgpvxrpcvx3154 data-user-id=978168134357909564>lovebird</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, July 25, 2024 7:05 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1265897735693799445>7/25/2024 7:05 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Lovely, I have 300+ more Discord spare accounts - so again, who&#39;s silencing me, and why ?</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1265897859136491581 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1265897859136491581><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, July 25, 2024 7:06 AM">7:06 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>funny, 20 lurkers left <img
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src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> - tricked by imposters, ripped by sharks, silenced by lurkers, that&#39;s just getting better and better <img
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src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> - not surprised, for a collective hoax, putting others at risk, for profits <img
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title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Thursday, July 25, 2024 7:41 AM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1267178989294719076 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1267178989294719076><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/cc390cf4a20e0e13e826f3b667cb314f-04759.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/4-4551A.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=uxrifgpvxrpcvx3154>lovebird</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1265897735693799445')"> Lovely, I have 300+ more Discord spare accounts - so again, who&#39;s silencing me, and why ? </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=birddogj9560 data-user-id=978168668003393556>American Opensource</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, July 28, 2024 7:56 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1267178989294719076>7/28/2024 7:56 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Hang in tight, lovebird, 3 days left, and then you will be able to talk again <img
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title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> we also kicked your new account, and we won&#39;t let you know what we dont like either <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1268276101176758434 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1268276101176758434><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5df5dc97aa08308897ee2dc98ff95264-5AD6D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/cc390cf4a20e0e13e826f3b667cb314f-04759.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=birddogj9560>American Opensource</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1267178989294719076')"> Hang in tight, lovebird, 3 days left, and then you will be able to talk again <img
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title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> we also kicked your new account, and we won&#39;t let you know what we dont like either <img
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title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=azurite0693 data-user-id=1225203510312828950>NoorPro</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, July 31, 2024 8:36 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1268276101176758434>7/31/2024 8:36 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Horray, the silenced are allowed to speak again. Who&#39;s a** I missed to lick actually !? And what was wrong, the facts, absence of sugar, .... ? Would love to know, 1984 - Pro @ OSE <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1268314285596217428 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1268314285596217428><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5df5dc97aa08308897ee2dc98ff95264-5AD6D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=azurite0693 data-user-id=1225203510312828950>NoorPro</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, July 31, 2024 11:08 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1268314285596217428>7/31/2024 11:08 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>In the meantime, enjoy the release notes of Discourse, 10 years in the game, backed up by 20 years in the field <img
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AI integration for Claude, ... and yet, a pita to use via API, or even simple stuff as designing the home page <img
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<a href="https://blog.discourse.org/2024/07/celebrating-discourse-3-3/">https://blog.discourse.org/2024/07/celebrating-discourse-3-3/</a></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Wednesday, July 31, 2024 11:09 PM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://blog.discourse.org/2024/07/celebrating-discourse-3-3/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Celebrating Discourse release 3.3</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Discourse 3.3 is here! This new release contains powerful new features to enhance the discoverability of your community and the content within it</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/Discourse_3.3-75D4D.jpeg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/Discourse_3.3-75D4D.jpeg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1268314422036926524 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1268314422036926524><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, July 31, 2024 11:08 PM">11:08 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Enjoy your exclusive, hidden private chats <img
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title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> lets make it harder for everyone else to join, or write great content <img
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title="dancer"
src="media-ose/1f483-F1B1B.svg"></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Wednesday, July 31, 2024 11:11 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1269241862728716359 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1269241862728716359><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5df5dc97aa08308897ee2dc98ff95264-5AD6D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=azurite0693 data-user-id=1225203510312828950>NoorPro</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, August 3, 2024 12:34 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1269241862728716359>8/3/2024 12:34 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Lovely, US occupation forces, together with Kenyan soliders, at tax payer expense might have it harder to explain their existence, and purpose in Haiti : <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@keoni_difranco/video/7390628748820778271">https://www.tiktok.com/@keoni_difranco/video/7390628748820778271</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(254,44,85,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.tiktok.com/@keoni_difranco/video/7390628748820778271><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">TikTok &#183; Keoni #ProtectPōloluValley</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">83.2K likes, 8012 comments. “Kahuku, Oahu July 11 2024 EIS Hearing for the renewal of the lease for the US Army Kahuku Training Area”</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/oQSEIWmIQNeDFByyAWVbMfEIFEARGBk7n5rWbE~tpl-AE922.jpeg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/oQSEIWmIQNeDFByyAWVbMfEIFEARGBk7n5rWbE~tpl-AE922.jpeg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1269242086981505125 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1269242086981505125><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, August 3, 2024 12:34 PM">12:34 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>The world, a big ponzi scheme explained again : <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@joelofthetigers/video/7372813472263982366">https://www.tiktok.com/@joelofthetigers/video/7372813472263982366</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(254,44,85,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.tiktok.com/@joelofthetigers/video/7372813472263982366><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">TikTok &#183; Joel Tiger</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">13.7K likes, 1841 comments. “Trapped in the Debt Cycle”</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/fdfc96fd9c7b4d4daf9322be61b4daf3_171661727-1B2EA.jpeg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/fdfc96fd9c7b4d4daf9322be61b4daf3_171661727-1B2EA.jpeg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1269242268020244480 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1269242268020244480><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, August 3, 2024 12:35 PM">12:35 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Tiktok &#39;incluencers&#39; getting cooked by new algorithms: <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@christopherclaflin/video/7394480249687379242">https://www.tiktok.com/@christopherclaflin/video/7394480249687379242</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(254,44,85,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.tiktok.com/@christopherclaflin/video/7394480249687379242><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">TikTok &#183; Christopher Claflin</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">24.4K likes, 1661 comments. “I’m sure this post wont make the rounds either. But if thisbhas happened to you, I’d love yo hear from you.”</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/bc04ec47caf9440b94c3948ed7eac6aa_172166160-877A6.jpeg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/bc04ec47caf9440b94c3948ed7eac6aa_172166160-877A6.jpeg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1269242417027223572 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1269242417027223572><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, August 3, 2024 12:36 PM">12:36 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Building Paris, from E-waste : <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@goryprojects/video/7397448706053737761">https://www.tiktok.com/@goryprojects/video/7397448706053737761</a> <img
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alt="💃"
title="dancer"
src="media-ose/1f483-F1B1B.svg"></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(254,44,85,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.tiktok.com/@goryprojects/video/7397448706053737761><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">TikTok &#183; GORY</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">56.1K likes, 723 comments. “Paris with computer components”</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/fe8494f6880b40f7b4ffa69392a87791_172235275-81426.jpeg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/fe8494f6880b40f7b4ffa69392a87791_172235275-81426.jpeg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1269242707629576225 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1269242707629576225><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, August 3, 2024 12:37 PM">12:37 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Let&#39;s zoom out <img
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alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-BF3D7.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-BF3D7.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (149.21 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1269243679810388029 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1269243679810388029><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, August 3, 2024 12:41 PM">12:41 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>And good news, - yes it exists - among the 10s and thousands lurkers re-inventing #sustainable over and over, CAD/CAM, silicon, pharma, food, in the hand of sharks, ... found a few new design patterns to reinvent electric cabinets <img
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src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> shorter paths, cheaper, lighter, ...</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-74BBF.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-74BBF.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (87.45 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1269243714320990218 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1269243714320990218><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, August 3, 2024 12:41 PM">12:41 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>have a nice weekend - #cookingthefrogslowly</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Saturday, August 3, 2024 12:42 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1269244726226194434 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1269244726226194434><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, August 3, 2024 12:45 PM">12:45 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>ah, &#39;community&#39; : it actually exists, or existed <img
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title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> <a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/C99nHG1o3sO">https://www.instagram.com/p/C99nHG1o3sO</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(206,0,114,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><img class=chatlog__embed-author-icon src=media-ose/312024111_629910045268742_3606363859295530-6FF27.jpg alt="Author icon" loading=lazy onerror="this.style.visibility='hidden'"> <a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.instagram.com/aketchjoywinnie><div class=chatlog__embed-author>aketchjoywinnie</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">If you were raised by a whole village . It’s only fair that you have them in both your celebratory seasons and mourning seasons too .
Note that every culture has a way of doing its things and it all counts depending on where you come from . But for my people here . The whole village comes through both invited and uninvited <img
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Hahaha</div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-fields><div class="chatlog__embed-field chatlog__embed-field--inline"><div class=chatlog__embed-field-name><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Likes</div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-field-value><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">11440</div></div></div></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-footer><img class=chatlog__embed-footer-icon src=media-ose/68d99ba29cc8-B525E.png alt="Footer icon" loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__embed-footer-text> Instagram </span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1269255505780543614 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1269255505780543614><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5df5dc97aa08308897ee2dc98ff95264-5AD6D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=azurite0693 data-user-id=1225203510312828950>NoorPro</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, August 3, 2024 1:28 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1269255505780543614>8/3/2024 1:28 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>here btw. the equations for the cabinet, solidworks f***ery
<code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--multiline nohighlight">&#239;&#187;&#191;&quot;Base-Width&quot;= 420
&quot;Base-Width-Medium&quot;= 520
&quot;Base-Height&quot;= 320
&quot;Support-Rod-Diameter&quot;= 16
&quot;Support-Rod-X-Offset&quot;= 40
&quot;Support-Rod-Y-Offset&quot;= 35
&quot;Base-Thickness&quot;= 5
&quot;Base-Depth&quot;= 82
&quot;D2@Sketch1&quot;=&quot;Base-Width&quot;
&quot;D1@Sketch1&quot;=&quot;Base-Height&quot;
&quot;Corner-Radius-Major&quot;= &quot;Support-Rod-Diameter&quot;
&quot;D1@Major-Fillet&quot; = &quot;Corner-Radius-Major&quot;
&quot;D1@Sketch8&quot; = &quot;Base-Height&quot; - &quot;Support-Rod-Y-Offset&quot; + 10
&quot;D2@Sketch8&quot;= &quot;Base-Width&quot; - ( &quot;Support-Rod-X-Offset&quot; ) + 8
&quot;Cutout-Horizontal&quot;= &quot;Base-Width&quot; * 0.8
&quot;Cutout-Vertical&quot;= &quot;Base-Height&quot; * 0.6
&quot;Outer-Support-Bore-Diameter&quot;= 6.1
&quot;D2@Sketch6&quot;=&quot;Cutout-Horizontal&quot;
&quot;D1@Sketch7&quot;=&quot;Cutout-Vertical&quot;
&quot;Inner-Support-Bore-Diameter&quot;= 8.2
&quot;Cutout-Depth&quot;= 20
&quot;D1@Sketch6&quot;=&quot;Cutout-Depth&quot;
&quot;D2@Sketch7&quot;=&quot;Cutout-Depth&quot;
&quot;D4@Sketch1&quot;=&quot;Inner-Support-Bore-Diameter&quot;
&quot;D1@Minor-Fillets&quot;=&quot;Corner-Radius-Major&quot; / 2</code>
apparently the only way to drive the design and its component from outside, awful - they introduced another feature, called &#39;design tables&#39; but requiring MS$ Excel. Would love to have better constructs instead, adjusting spacing, layout, ... automatically</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1269400836950462474 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1269400836950462474><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5df5dc97aa08308897ee2dc98ff95264-5AD6D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=azurite0693 data-user-id=1225203510312828950>NoorPro</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, August 3, 2024 11:05 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1269400836950462474>8/3/2024 11:05 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>a few hours later <img
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src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> that&#39;s like tetris <img
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<a href="https://git.osr-plastic.org/osr-plastic/osr-machines/src/branch/master/components/shared/electronics/enclosures/vintage-vertical-edc">https://git.osr-plastic.org/osr-plastic/osr-machines/src/branch/master/components/shared/electronics/enclosures/vintage-vertical-edc</a>
looks like we need a npm like package registry, just for real things <img
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#unlearnall</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1269401380934914058 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1269401380934914058><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, August 3, 2024 11:07 PM">11:07 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>here the source inspiration, &#39;katbot&#39; injector</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/DSC02348-366E2.JPG> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/DSC02348-366E2.JPG alt="Image attachment" title="Image: DSC02348.JPG (298.13 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/kb-inside-406BF.jpg> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/kb-inside-406BF.jpg alt="Image attachment" title="Image: kb-inside.jpg (366.33 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1269401780081524841 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1269401780081524841><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, August 3, 2024 11:09 PM">11:09 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>still looking for a customizable OS PID controller, chainable, modbus, ...</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Saturday, August 3, 2024 11:09 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1270009758904090706 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1270009758904090706><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5df5dc97aa08308897ee2dc98ff95264-5AD6D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=azurite0693 data-user-id=1225203510312828950>NoorPro</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, August 5, 2024 3:25 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1270009758904090706>8/5/2024 3:25 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Lovely, ever tried getting good data out of AI ? here&#39;s the ultimate sack treten machine: <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@lizthedeveloper/video/7397807714287504682">https://www.tiktok.com/@lizthedeveloper/video/7397807714287504682</a> - introducing multi agents - models soon to worth north the 100M, and yet nobody actually makes money with it, except NVidia, blasting megawatts in the air</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(254,44,85,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.tiktok.com/@lizthedeveloper/video/7397807714287504682><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">TikTok &#183; future infinitive <img
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title="☸"
src="media-ose/2638-E2850.svg">️</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">1271 likes, 73 comments. “Let’s learn about #autogen for”</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/b4e7644867f34854a12391edcc89587c_172243633-42E83.jpeg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/b4e7644867f34854a12391edcc89587c_172243633-42E83.jpeg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1270010099720523948 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1270010099720523948><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, August 5, 2024 3:26 PM">3:26 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>And, great introduction to western geo/foreign politics - note the lengthy confidence he keeps exploring every little dirty trick humanity can possibly can come up with <img
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<a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@watchfulcoyote/video/7398372208898231594">https://www.tiktok.com/@watchfulcoyote/video/7398372208898231594</a>
<a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@pissedmagistus/video/7366742100240583969">https://www.tiktok.com/@pissedmagistus/video/7366742100240583969</a></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Monday, August 5, 2024 3:44 PM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(254,44,85,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.tiktok.com/@watchfulcoyote/video/7398372208898231594><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">TikTok &#183; Jack</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">16.5K likes, 1259 comments. “Some fictional futuristic musings… #future #fiction #story #listen #futurism #writing #healthecycle #politics #left #leftist #socialist #socialism #race #red #blue #false #true #me #you #grow #maduro #venezuela #latin #venezuelan #latinamerica #usa #democrat #kamala #kamalaharris #claudiadelacruz #threat #education #...</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/oUNDoJDwFMJHrmYfoRsYABxEy4aIQSHfgmEFKE~tpl-22574.jpeg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/oUNDoJDwFMJHrmYfoRsYABxEy4aIQSHfgmEFKE~tpl-22574.jpeg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(254,44,85,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.tiktok.com/@pissedmagistus/video/7366742100240583969><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">TikTok &#183; PissedMagistus</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">82K likes, 2141 comments. “#latestagecapitalism #eattherich #militaryindustrialcomplex ”</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/9da15a62ea154e8784850be9bab62afb_171520333-71980.jpeg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/9da15a62ea154e8784850be9bab62afb_171520333-71980.jpeg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1270010398254436444 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1270010398254436444><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, August 5, 2024 3:27 PM">3:27 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>#therevolutionwillbetelevised, also in your SUV <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1271040287711432725 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1271040287711432725><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5df5dc97aa08308897ee2dc98ff95264-5AD6D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=azurite0693 data-user-id=1225203510312828950>NoorPro</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, August 8, 2024 11:40 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1271040287711432725>8/8/2024 11:40 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Hey Schatzie, <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="katharinaelleke">@katharinaelleke</span> - so if I got this right, it&#39;s western well payed &#39;intellectuals&#39; sucking from funds, to &#39;solve the problem&#39; whilst working condition, prospect, outcome for the workers ( &#39;they are doing the dirty work, ...&#39; as you nicely said ) didn&#39;t change a bit !?
<a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/C5Va-MiIIko/">https://www.instagram.com/p/C5Va-MiIIko/</a> - just like in PreciousPlastic, psychopaths feeding of the work from fooled volunteers, later on kicked off as Bradford (the robot guy ), Roman, ... Anne - stabbed in the back, ripped down to the bone, ... Nice work darling - really</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-36C0C.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-36C0C.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (1.22 MB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(206,0,114,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><img class=chatlog__embed-author-icon src=media-ose/129451215_842349823166386_7254179553302465-0EB8A.jpg alt="Author icon" loading=lazy onerror="this.style.visibility='hidden'"> <a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.instagram.com/theflipflopi><div class=chatlog__embed-author>theflipflopi</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Nothing goes to “waste” at the Flipflopi! As we work towards a #zerowaste world, we’re starting with our workshop by ensuring all our offcuts are given a long life. What are you doing to become #zerowaste? Let us know <img
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#zerowasteliving #zerowastelifestyle #zerowastejourney #recycling #plasticrevolution</div></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-footer><img class=chatlog__embed-footer-icon src=media-ose/68d99ba29cc8-B525E.png alt="Footer icon" loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__embed-footer-text> Instagram </span></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1271041366104870933 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1271041366104870933><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, August 8, 2024 11:44 AM">11:44 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Glad, Ali was able to join that trip - it needs at least one maskotchen, and at least one local - makes the news looking somewhat better - in the meantime, those poor women sent to the mangrooves, taking all the risks as your townhall noted - digging in muddy waste bags - no conveyor belt, or whatsoever - Plastik Macht Frei - Joseph&#39;s dreams become true <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1271072232034144299 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1271072232034144299><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5df5dc97aa08308897ee2dc98ff95264-5AD6D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=azurite0693 data-user-id=1225203510312828950>NoorPro</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, August 8, 2024 1:47 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1271072232034144299>8/8/2024 1:47 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Lovely, just spoke yesterday with Anne about, a friend working at a NATO airbase, telling me Nato buys wheels for a fighter jet up to 80k, disposed after flight, but perfectly fine - Airbus buying it back for cents, reselling it at 1000x ...
<a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@africanstream/video/7378419616751701280">https://www.tiktok.com/@africanstream/video/7378419616751701280</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(254,44,85,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.tiktok.com/@africanstream/video/7378419616751701280><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">TikTok &#183; African Stream</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">19K likes, 647 comments. “If you had to guess which country’s military has splashed out $10-thousand on a toilet seat, what would you say? Well, it’s not a ‘corrupt’ African nation, it’s the United States. Its defence budget is set to top $1-trillion for the first time in 2027, or thereabouts. And its massively inflated deals with contractors he...</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/10913aaba80d4ff8ab908ab61ba42a84_171792220-F7A92.jpeg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/10913aaba80d4ff8ab908ab61ba42a84_171792220-F7A92.jpeg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1271072679738347591 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1271072679738347591><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, August 8, 2024 1:49 PM">1:49 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>PreciousPlastic Mafia no different, charging the shit out of Africa - as a business model - lovely - in the meantime - the so called community left with 2 moulds, and a shit pile of awful designs - with only one option, to buy overpriced proprietary junk from &#39;trusted sellers&#39;</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Thursday, August 8, 2024 1:51 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1271073088624136314 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1271073088624136314><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, August 8, 2024 1:50 PM">1:50 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I guess we dont deserve better than g&#39;old Georgy already pointed out - the planet shaking us off like a plague of flights <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1271076431761248450 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1271076431761248450><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5df5dc97aa08308897ee2dc98ff95264-5AD6D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=azurite0693 data-user-id=1225203510312828950>NoorPro</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, August 8, 2024 2:03 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1271076431761248450>8/8/2024 2:03 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Yammi, the totalitarian atmosphere speaks for it self - last time we&#39;ve seen experts, culture, updates, actual discussions, joy - 4 years ago <img
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src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Thursday, August 8, 2024 2:04 PM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-6506E.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-6506E.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (303.96 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1271076695503540284 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1271076695503540284><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, August 8, 2024 2:04 PM">2:04 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>so Darling, if you don&#39;t mind - we gonna kick you bastards out of the water <img
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src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> - Nials my mentor said it, Jason said it, Anne said it, Esferica, ... and pretty much everyone you screwed over</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Thursday, August 8, 2024 3:01 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1271077321461338295 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1271077321461338295><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, August 8, 2024 2:07 PM">2:07 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>... <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="katharinaelleke">@katharinaelleke</span> still - me, yasin, noor - would love to know, how Adidas, Nike, ... is using PreciousPlastic, 36M revenue - and yet, a few cowboys plundering whats left ...</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1271111953477144638 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1271111953477144638><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5df5dc97aa08308897ee2dc98ff95264-5AD6D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=azurite0693 data-user-id=1225203510312828950>NoorPro</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, August 8, 2024 4:25 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1271111953477144638>8/8/2024 4:25 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>yammi, MS$ owned LLMs, helping you along, chosing between another Biden, or Trump <img
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<a href="https://www.treatmenteffect.app/">https://www.treatmenteffect.app/</a></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1271112022494548009 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1271112022494548009><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, August 8, 2024 4:25 PM">4:25 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>and ofc, get your next shot guys</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1271127653264527542 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1271127653264527542><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5df5dc97aa08308897ee2dc98ff95264-5AD6D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=azurite0693 data-user-id=1225203510312828950>NoorPro</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, August 8, 2024 5:27 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1271127653264527542>8/8/2024 5:27 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>So, darling - <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="katharinaelleke">@katharinaelleke</span> - for the final report - &#39;the recycling scam&#39; - already debunked a few hundred times - but PP mastered it <img
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1. At the top, psychopaths - as usual spinning of the evil cycle, recruiting volunteers - helping to save the planet, Opensource, cheap, accessible, lol, bla bla ... Academy 99.9% full of shi* - in denial of all evidence and feedback - congrats, you need 7+ moderators - adding literally nothing, but so busy and overthelmed, censoring anything out of the narrative
2. after the minions, and guinea pigs figured out the details, at big expense, the sharks walk in, mad plastic, citizenscientific workshop, rory, peter bas, ... and the like - collecting the fruits and transfer/copy it over to proprietary designs - sold at insane prices - thanks to you, to Africa, ... in all instances, never heard back from any of them - just like with most of the so called PreciousPlastic &#39;community&#39; - perfectly understandable, it&#39;s a blamage, in all aspects
3. as it can&#39;t get worst - Mattia smells the fat catch too and turns it into a clever cult: the community program, become an ally, give up estate on your socialprofile, to be part - of &#39;the real precious plastic&#39;, handing out logos, premium member ships, and visibility for freeloading - nice - at least one thing you figured out, respect - I give you that - btw. still wondering how Dave got all the resources, skills in the first place - greets from the deep state theory - you have indeed our full admiration
4. I love FlipFlopi, really - same story - this whole nonsense requires cheap labor - and the dancing queen to keep it sympatic - but het, at least some stories about the locals, from time to time <img
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#circularslavery-pro</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Thursday, August 8, 2024 5:34 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1271127654212571251 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1271127654212571251><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/def5e0a7ff07e73d477a87df10a3dc4f-BFBB1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(153,45,34) title=Arcane#7800 data-user-id=437808476106784770>Arcane</span> <span class=chatlog__author-tag>BOT</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, August 8, 2024 5:27 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1271127654212571251>8/8/2024 5:27 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="azurite0693">@NoorPro</span> has reached level <strong>9</strong>. GG!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1271139287009726618 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1271139287009726618><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5df5dc97aa08308897ee2dc98ff95264-5AD6D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=azurite0693 data-user-id=1225203510312828950>NoorPro</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, August 8, 2024 6:13 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1271139287009726618>8/8/2024 6:13 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Ok ok, hear me out - let&#39;s say there&#39;s any substance to that, and I really love all those goofy words, especially when the top earners cant even write markdown, or maintain/extend a simple design, with the so called community, taxed and bullied whenever possible ...
1. let&#39;s say we&#39;d have indeed respectable folks around (all left with the arrival of v4 mafia), AndyN, Esferica, Anne (HR @ Phillips), Julian (left disappointed), and pretty much all others who offered help, ...
2. lets say all this greedy lurkers would finally start collaborating, automating all this awful work even down there, in your camp - using the latest tech (not this $#^$%^ Dave came up with, still unable to write even a simple update script, like all the moderators )
3. lets say any of the feedback, from serious customers as SanAniol would have go somewhere ( vending shredder ), or robot based printers (in the library as well <img
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4. let&#39;s say serious folks from the OS community would have joined, plenty models &amp; ideas have been offered : bounties, frenchise, ... lowering the risks, damages, ....
5. Lets say, PP is indeed used at Adidas (xD), and indeed its there to help businesses (plenty dying, and in serious trouble), instead of bullshitting the population and torturing little kids with weird rusty kitchen knifes, calling it education whilst obviously removing as in capitalism humans/people and resources entirely from the equation .. sick - &#39;start a business&#39;
Would love to know ... I am all yours <img
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src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Thursday, August 8, 2024 6:35 PM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-B3B58.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-B3B58.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (968.24 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1271140225170804736 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1271140225170804736><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, August 8, 2024 6:17 PM">6:17 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>In the meantime, enjoy your 2k Fusion360 subscription, on top of another 20k - for software / services alone <img
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src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> I bet none of PP/FlipFlopi managment ever touched VSCode, or Github - and probably never will</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1271140317831106623 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1271140317831106623><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, August 8, 2024 6:17 PM">6:17 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>#circularblabla</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1271152319215697971 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1271152319215697971><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5df5dc97aa08308897ee2dc98ff95264-5AD6D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=azurite0693 data-user-id=1225203510312828950>NoorPro</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, August 8, 2024 7:05 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1271152319215697971>8/8/2024 7:05 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>And thank you darling, another ad for PP Mafia - If you&#39;d have ever do this work 8 hours every day, leaving you with extremely painful diseases in the age, you may pay some respect not just for the workers you rip off down there, but also to the tech updates your beloved mafia is censoring/bullying, ...</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Thursday, August 8, 2024 7:08 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1271152347392901181 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1271152347392901181><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, August 8, 2024 7:05 PM">7:05 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-B3BA9.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-B3BA9.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (994.28 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1271152794673479730 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1271152794673479730><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, August 8, 2024 7:07 PM">7:07 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>btw. that are not even &#39;realprecious plastic machines&#39; (it doesnt exists even), no credits for the builders either, little reminder, that have been all volunteers, doing the work as well - good enough to claim the credits and power over others - history repeats , <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="katharinaelleke">@katharinaelleke</span> even your mom noted well, &#39;that doesnt look good/healthy what this guys have to do&#39; -</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Thursday, August 8, 2024 7:27 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1271153469650243678 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1271153469650243678><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, August 8, 2024 7:10 PM">7:10 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>and a little reminder, CNC turning / plastic milling, flexi-bot was on the table, cheap, multiple times, just as grid beams - til today - nothing of that has been ever picked, or developed further - &#39;we made a big step&#39; as you say, backwards - the moderators make sure @1984</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Thursday, August 8, 2024 7:29 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1271153849771626606 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1271153849771626606><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, August 8, 2024 7:11 PM">7:11 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I am ofc eager to hear, what are those &#39;sustainable processes&#39; - it&#39;s again underpaid negros, with no future but you filling your pockets</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1271155290825293945 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1271155290825293945><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, August 8, 2024 7:17 PM">7:17 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>---------------- so according to this, I download those plans, then realize like most folks its not good enough, but keep trying - eventually buy Landry&#39;s underpowered 6k extruder, or 8k from citizensshop - blasting up to 60k like others - and then figure it&#39;s going nowhere - as on YOUR bazar - lovely - and get bullied on Discord for asking - awesome -
#weneedmorehype</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Thursday, August 8, 2024 7:20 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1271360316462333952 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1271360316462333952><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/3-FB033.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=religious_eliot_782 data-user-id=1244120304662609992>Bullied to Death - Nr. 2</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, August 9, 2024 8:52 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1271360316462333952>8/9/2024 8:52 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Whoever sets me on timeout : would you mind to explain ?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1271360610566930442 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1271360610566930442><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/b604f10501ba2b7a52305278a91ea72d-F92C0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=bigtonyd5771 data-user-id=978168621165592609>American Slavery</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, August 9, 2024 8:53 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1271360610566930442>8/9/2024 8:53 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Well, screw you cowards - whats this again !?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1271362999743021106 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1271362999743021106><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/b604f10501ba2b7a52305278a91ea72d-F92C0.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=bigtonyd5771 data-user-id=978168621165592609>American Slavery</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, August 9, 2024 9:02 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1271362999743021106>8/9/2024 9:02 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>So if you I speak about exploitation of Africans, or the criminals profiteering I get banned, or put on timeout - and I embrace it, I become a moderator - wtf !</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1271363165640327269 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1271363165640327269><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, August 9, 2024 9:03 AM">9:03 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I can put a delay myself, so you don&#39;t feel offended <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1271363616884396074 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1271363616884396074><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/cc390cf4a20e0e13e826f3b667cb314f-04759.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=birddogj9560 data-user-id=978168668003393556>American Opensource</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, August 9, 2024 9:05 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1271363616884396074>8/9/2024 9:05 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Nice, another timeout - would you even explain, dear lurker !? Increddible - cyber fascism &amp; bullying on OSE - american style</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1271363843276275782 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1271363843276275782><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/ff4430e79abb746417db375d28568df2-AF3EA.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=pronoobj3913 data-user-id=977719207468875786>Bullied to Death</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, August 9, 2024 9:06 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1271363843276275782>8/9/2024 9:06 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>yeah - keep going - american power games - cowards</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1271365059351937034 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1271365059351937034><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/af3baf9e542f82809d854763deb81943-42092.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=peoplefirst. data-user-id=740625002449207388>American Fascism</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, August 9, 2024 9:10 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1271365059351937034>8/9/2024 9:10 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Ah, thats you <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="303adastra">@303adastra</span>, <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="saphnich">@Alexa</span> - wasn&#39;t expecting better - enjoy your toys - also build on slavery in africa, and the east - cowards !</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1272673856347308154 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1272673856347308154><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/86fb79a65690dd42b37144bad2a534d9-B324D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/5df5dc97aa08308897ee2dc98ff95264-5AD6D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=azurite0693>NoorPro</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1271155290825293945')"> ---------------- so according to this, I download those plans, then realize like most folks its not good enough, but keep trying - eventually buy Landry&#39;s underpowered 6k extruder, or 8k from citizensshop - blasting up to 60k like others - and then figure it&#39;s going nowhere - as on YOUR bazar - lovely - and get bullied on Discord for asking - awesome -
#weneedmorehype </span> <span class=chatlog__reply-edited-timestamp title="Thursday, August 8, 2024 7:20 PM">(edited)</span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=bilimage data-user-id=868985692754165770>Derailed Lifes</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, August 12, 2024 11:51 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1272673856347308154>8/12/2024 11:51 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>hey lovebird, just hang tight, 3 days left to wait - still dont know what lunatic lurker here hit the silence button ... may you step forward - same questions : whats your problem !?
places like this ...</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1272673879529357405 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1272673879529357405><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, August 12, 2024 11:51 PM">11:51 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cD3VdPfF7Wo">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cD3VdPfF7Wo</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC09zihswoiqqaVcxzTuuRGg><div class=chatlog__embed-author>AnneClarkOfficial</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cD3VdPfF7Wo"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Anne Clark - Self Destruct</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/cD3VdPfF7Wo width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1272674169015894100 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1272674169015894100><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, August 12, 2024 11:52 PM">11:52 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>that&#39;s incredible, 21 online, 124 gone, and just one commiter left, marcin <img
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alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1272743638560014337 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1272743638560014337><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/86fb79a65690dd42b37144bad2a534d9-B324D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=bilimage>Derailed Lifes</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1272674169015894100')"> that&#39;s incredible, 21 online, 124 gone, and just one commiter left, marcin <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=303adastra data-user-id=457390086879969280>303adastra</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, August 13, 2024 4:28 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1272743638560014337>8/13/2024 4:28 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>What are you hoping to get out of staying on this server?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1272786580448215124 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1272786580448215124><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/86fb79a65690dd42b37144bad2a534d9-B324D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=bilimage data-user-id=868985692754165770>Derailed Lifes</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, August 13, 2024 7:19 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1272786580448215124>8/13/2024 7:19 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Got the same question about you, and the rest <img
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alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1272788119078309899 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1272788119078309899><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/86fb79a65690dd42b37144bad2a534d9-B324D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=bilimage>Derailed Lifes</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1272786580448215124')"> Got the same question about you, and the rest <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, August 13, 2024 7:25 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1272788119078309899>8/13/2024 7:25 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Join us in the voice chat?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1272789572715024434 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1272789572715024434><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/86fb79a65690dd42b37144bad2a534d9-B324D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=bilimage data-user-id=868985692754165770>Derailed Lifes</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, August 13, 2024 7:31 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1272789572715024434>8/13/2024 7:31 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>thank you, got work to do, today on the menu : investigate practical OS approaches to simulate loads for frameworks</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-0902B.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-0902B.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (843.72 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1272789683407159307 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1272789683407159307><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, August 13, 2024 7:31 AM">7:31 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>let us know how it went, a log would be nice <img
loading="lazy"
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alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1272790033882939477 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1272790033882939477><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, August 13, 2024 7:33 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1272790033882939477>8/13/2024 7:33 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I&#39;m not certain I understand what you meant by your last post.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1272790115684581387 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1272790115684581387><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/86fb79a65690dd42b37144bad2a534d9-B324D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=bilimage data-user-id=868985692754165770>Derailed Lifes</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, August 13, 2024 7:33 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1272790115684581387>8/13/2024 7:33 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>ChatGPT neither <img
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alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-C997F.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-C997F.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (215.88 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1272790117014179871 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1272790117014179871><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/def5e0a7ff07e73d477a87df10a3dc4f-BFBB1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(153,45,34) title=Arcane#7800 data-user-id=437808476106784770>Arcane</span> <span class=chatlog__author-tag>BOT</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, August 13, 2024 7:33 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1272790117014179871>8/13/2024 7:33 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="bilimage">@Derailed Lifes</span> has reached level <strong>3</strong>. GG!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1272790221477642301 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1272790221477642301><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/86fb79a65690dd42b37144bad2a534d9-B324D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=bilimage data-user-id=868985692754165770>Derailed Lifes</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, August 13, 2024 7:33 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1272790221477642301>8/13/2024 7:33 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>#wearedoomed - for sure</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1272790284899455037 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1272790284899455037><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, August 13, 2024 7:34 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1272790284899455037>8/13/2024 7:34 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Now I&#39;m even more confused - could you explain?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1272792561848811561 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1272792561848811561><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/86fb79a65690dd42b37144bad2a534d9-B324D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=bilimage data-user-id=868985692754165770>Derailed Lifes</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, August 13, 2024 7:43 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1272792561848811561>8/13/2024 7:43 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>good - there&#39;s btw. support for transcribing audio files in osr-ai : <a href="https://git.osr-plastic.org/osr-plastic/osr-ai">https://git.osr-plastic.org/osr-plastic/osr-ai</a> | perhaps someone can add support splitting up videos into screenshots (<a href="https://git.osr-plastic.org/osr-plastic/osr-media)">https://git.osr-plastic.org/osr-plastic/osr-media)</a>, and then feed the OSE log</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1272792871468011530 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1272792871468011530><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, August 13, 2024 7:44 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1272792871468011530>8/13/2024 7:44 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Could you explain your work a little bit for the sake of the community?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1272794602398683156 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1272794602398683156><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/86fb79a65690dd42b37144bad2a534d9-B324D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=bilimage>Derailed Lifes</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1272786580448215124')"> Got the same question about you, and the rest <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=303adastra data-user-id=457390086879969280>303adastra</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, August 13, 2024 7:51 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1272794602398683156>8/13/2024 7:51 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>To build and support the OSE community. How about you?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1272796182971678792 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1272796182971678792><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/86fb79a65690dd42b37144bad2a534d9-B324D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=bilimage data-user-id=868985692754165770>Derailed Lifes</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, August 13, 2024 7:57 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1272796182971678792>8/13/2024 7:57 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>didnt know there&#39;s still an active community <img
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my budget for noise from the internet is hereby exceeded <img
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busy with implementing it : <a href="https://git.osr-plastic.org/osr-plastic/system/src/branch/master/diagrams/packages%20-%20q4.jpg">https://git.osr-plastic.org/osr-plastic/system/src/branch/master/diagrams/packages%20-%20q4.jpg</a></span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1272814754397818952 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1272814754397818952><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/86fb79a65690dd42b37144bad2a534d9-B324D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=bilimage data-user-id=868985692754165770>Derailed Lifes</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, August 13, 2024 9:11 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1272814754397818952>8/13/2024 9:11 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>btw. since you&#39;re on linear motion stuff, a practical guide to ditch extremely expensive, proprietary hardware as Heidenhain, CNC controllers, metal, wood ... would be extremely useful - cant comment on the state of LinuxCNC though ...
one little failure of the components can easily destroy the company, they&#39;re charging insane amounts for repairs and replacement</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/IMG_20240719_130403-61285.jpg> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/IMG_20240719_130403-61285.jpg alt="Image attachment" title="Image: IMG_20240719_130403.jpg (7.4 MB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/IMG_20240719_130201-073DD.jpg> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/IMG_20240719_130201-073DD.jpg alt="Image attachment" title="Image: IMG_20240719_130201.jpg (8.89 MB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/IMG_20240719_130214-244D5.jpg> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/IMG_20240719_130214-244D5.jpg alt="Image attachment" title="Image: IMG_20240719_130214.jpg (8.48 MB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/IMG_20240719_130216-AAAFF.jpg> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/IMG_20240719_130216-AAAFF.jpg alt="Image attachment" title="Image: IMG_20240719_130216.jpg (7.95 MB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1272814957712506942 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1272814957712506942><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, August 13, 2024 9:12 AM">9:12 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>in the picture, a wood router, they are forced to use their software, cant even use Fusion360 and the vendor answers with : buy the new model</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1272815205998661733 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1272815205998661733><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, August 13, 2024 9:13 AM">9:13 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>an upgrade kit to mount extruders, ... could be a nice OS premium service - they have all the skills and resources to deal with plastic <img
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title="dancer"
src="media-ose/1f483-F1B1B.svg"></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Tuesday, August 13, 2024 9:30 AM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1272823889742794838 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1272823889742794838><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/86fb79a65690dd42b37144bad2a534d9-B324D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=bilimage data-user-id=868985692754165770>Derailed Lifes</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, August 13, 2024 9:47 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1272823889742794838>8/13/2024 9:47 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>here for instance a heidenhain, we put 70k in there, could sell it for not even 25k, the replacment/repair of a capacitator in the power unit is about 2500.</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-8F0BC.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-8F0BC.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (2.15 MB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1272824123877490739 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1272824123877490739><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, August 13, 2024 9:48 AM">9:48 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>except the servo drives, pretty much all can be substituted, PLC is arguable - didnt see much effort or options OS wise - however, I could certainly sleep better at night if I could <img
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thinking about that most of our economy is hinged on these sharks, .... well</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1272857793048608798 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1272857793048608798><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/86fb79a65690dd42b37144bad2a534d9-B324D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=bilimage data-user-id=868985692754165770>Derailed Lifes</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, August 13, 2024 12:02 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1272857793048608798>8/13/2024 12:02 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>time for a little recap,
OSE : Marcin mostly alone, one of the rare guys able see things through - buried under fees, unable to move on properly as deserved - no funds raised - the so called OSE community also unable/unwilling to change anything
PreciousPlastic : plundered by sharks, til the last drop, extremely overwhelmed bullshiting the public, with one stunt after the next, desperate to justify their existence whilst pulverizing every cent on crap nobody needs or asked for - same story - not even one guy able to fork, commit, ... again, funder/community in their own fucking way
OSR-Plastic : censored, ripped, the usual back stabbing - what else
AI : now the hype settling, and all the ikaruses falling en mass from the sky
State of the art: CAD, CAM, Semi-Conductor, ... not even the surface scratched
lovely</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Tuesday, August 13, 2024 12:03 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1272858035311743037 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1272858035311743037><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, August 13, 2024 12:03 PM">12:03 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>not surprised, the evolution of knowledge degraded down to this :</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-61F44.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-61F44.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (1.37 MB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1272860648870510643 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1272860648870510643><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, August 13, 2024 12:13 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1272860648870510643>8/13/2024 12:13 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>What do you propose as possible steps to take to improve those situations?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1272861531591147555 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1272861531591147555><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/86fb79a65690dd42b37144bad2a534d9-B324D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=bilimage data-user-id=868985692754165770>Derailed Lifes</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, August 13, 2024 12:17 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1272861531591147555>8/13/2024 12:17 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>well, a simple Google Deck / Pitch, with credible evidence, research will do - someone will have to knock some doors though. Whilst invests are in decline, angle seeds seem to remain somewhat stable. I suppose its about trust - as we&#39;ve seen with the tech bubble, over and over - shouldnt be too hard finding investors on crunchbase and similar platforms. I will throw in our portfolio ( got plenty of decent clients ) and POCs that it actually works.</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1272862058035019879 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1272862058035019879><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, August 13, 2024 12:19 PM">12:19 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>OSE/OSR needs around 10M, for the first 12 months, from what I can tell, it seems now easy to leave instructables.com/wikifactory, ... and the like in the dust <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1273035510717218930 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1273035510717218930><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/86fb79a65690dd42b37144bad2a534d9-B324D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=bilimage>Derailed Lifes</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1272796182971678792')"> didnt know there&#39;s still an active community <img
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my budget for noise from the internet is hereby exceeded <img
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busy with implementing it : <a href="https://git.osr-plastic.org/osr-plastic/system/src/branch/master/diagrams/packages%20-%20q4.jpg">https://git.osr-plastic.org/osr-plastic/system/src/branch/master/diagrams/packages%20-%20q4.jpg</a> </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=303adastra data-user-id=457390086879969280>303adastra</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, August 13, 2024 11:48 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1273035510717218930>8/13/2024 11:48 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Are you seeking feedback/contributions on/to OSR from this server?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1273148433988849797 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1273148433988849797><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/86fb79a65690dd42b37144bad2a534d9-B324D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=bilimage data-user-id=868985692754165770>Derailed Lifes</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, August 14, 2024 7:17 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1273148433988849797>8/14/2024 7:17 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>i wont bother, as far I can see, there are just gamers, and weekend &#39;contributors&#39; here - but if you need a hand, let us know <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1273358557844078592 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1273358557844078592><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/e84677a9a92bc684d5d0078c2c05df93-BEA9F.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=just.maty data-user-id=1111684388325961780>Maty</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, August 14, 2024 9:12 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1273358557844078592>8/14/2024 9:12 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Does anyone know of a family or group of people in need of a single family house in Minneapolis?
<a href="https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/1403-Dupont-Ave-N_Minneapolis_MN_55411_M84745-10693">https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/1403-Dupont-Ave-N_Minneapolis_MN_55411_M84745-10693</a>
<a href="https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/1403-Dupont-Ave-N_Minneapolis_MN_55411_M84745-10693">https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/1403-Dupont-Ave-N_Minneapolis_MN_55411_M84745-10693</a>
1,350 — all the utilities are in their name &amp; they have to figure out maintenance like there is a leak in the kitchen
I am moving in with my uncle, his brother/my dad died a few years ago. We all have Chron’s. I just found a basketball size hole in the garage we built in 1996. I wish I had the strength to do a house in Minneapolis but it is beyond me.
<a href="https://www.facebook.com/share/VBhUMsv643MUQNSq/?mibextid=79PoIi">https://www.facebook.com/share/VBhUMsv643MUQNSq/?mibextid=79PoIi</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/1403-Dupont-Ave-N_Minneapolis_MN_55411_M84745-10693><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">1403 Dupont Ave N, Minneapolis, MN 55411 | realtor.com&#174;</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">View 17 photos for 1403 Dupont Ave N, Minneapolis, MN 55411, a 5 bed, 2.5 bath, 1,820 Sq. Ft. single family home built in 1910 that was last sold on 07/03/2018.</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/2a6c827f09813a9d31511700ad550712l-w0od-w64-F4AE4.jpg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/2a6c827f09813a9d31511700ad550712l-w0od-w64-F4AE4.jpg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.facebook.com/share/VBhUMsv643MUQNSq/?mibextid=79PoIi"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Log in or sign up to view</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">See posts, photos and more on Facebook.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1275156227017408542 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1275156227017408542><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5df5dc97aa08308897ee2dc98ff95264-5AD6D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=azurite0693 data-user-id=1225203510312828950>NoorPro</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, August 19, 2024 8:15 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1275156227017408542>8/19/2024 8:15 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>hey darling, <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="katharinaelleke">@katharinaelleke</span> - PP Mafia made some free promo for all the cheap labor on Lamu <img
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title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> <a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/C-2jd5_itGx/">https://www.instagram.com/p/C-2jd5_itGx/</a>. Isnt it amazing, the self-proclaimed, unelected elite, none of them got hands dirty on anything, but caching in on other people&#39;s work, .... stolen credits, ....</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Monday, August 19, 2024 8:19 PM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-30133.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-30133.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (15.96 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(206,0,114,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><img class=chatlog__embed-author-icon src=media-ose/80688598_859028944516168_29319450450638929-52A83.jpg alt="Author icon" loading=lazy onerror="this.style.visibility='hidden'"> <a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.instagram.com/realpreciousplastic><div class=chatlog__embed-author>realpreciousplastic</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Six years ago, @theflipflopi proudly presented their first recycled plastic steering wheel to former Kenyan President Uhuru Kenyatta, symbolizing a commitment to combat plastic pollution.
Today, they celebrate another milestone as they unveil the next iteration of this initiative. This innovative steering wheel was showcased at the Internationa...</div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-fields><div class="chatlog__embed-field chatlog__embed-field--inline"><div class=chatlog__embed-field-name><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Likes</div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-field-value><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">267</div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="chatlog__embed-images chatlog__embed-images--single"><div class=chatlog__embed-image-container><a class=chatlog__embed-image-link href=media-ose/455963052_1166033301285819_652198848931272-A8C86.jpg> <img class=chatlog__embed-image src=media-ose/455963052_1166033301285819_652198848931272-A8C86.jpg alt=Image loading=lazy> </a></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-footer><img class=chatlog__embed-footer-icon src=media-ose/68d99ba29cc8-B525E.png alt="Footer icon" loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__embed-footer-text> Instagram </span></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1275156668493074603 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1275156668493074603><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, August 19, 2024 8:17 PM">8:17 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Lovely, the rich pervert west - Dave&#39;s 150e injector now at 6000 Euro, the 250 E extruder at 9000E, before VAT and shipping - it can&#39;t get more disgusting</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1275156845266468976 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1275156845266468976><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, August 19, 2024 8:18 PM">8:18 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>let&#39;s call that #sustainable @ planet earth - 2024 - nothing ever changes, but the pockets of the slave masters <img
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<a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/C-1tskeSt02/">https://www.instagram.com/p/C-1tskeSt02/</a></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Monday, August 19, 2024 8:34 PM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(206,0,114,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-footer><img class=chatlog__embed-footer-icon src=media-ose/68d99ba29cc8-B525E.png alt="Footer icon" loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__embed-footer-text> Instagram </span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1275916824696979587 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1275916824696979587><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5f2e719a9dac42a723b1b51646b8a4b4-F9D26.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/5f2e719a9dac42a723b1b51646b8a4b4-F9D26.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=life_long_learner>Paul P.</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'923427132602982431')"> Happy holidays all ❄️ we have an open room at our hackbase-in-the-making in Detroit from Jan 1 - Jun 1st. We have a growing tool library and two OSE fans / alums (I’m one <img
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title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> who are working on open hardware projects / businesses.
If you or anyone you know would be interested in applying, please lmk (reply here or DM, all questions welcome) </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=life_long_learner data-user-id=827415572111032350>Paul P.</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, August 21, 2024 10:37 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1275916824696979587>8/21/2024 10:37 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Happy summer hackers!
Holy cows <img
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src="media-ose/1f404-299DD.svg"> <img
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src="media-ose/1f607-0FB5B.svg"> it&#39;s been over 2 years since my last post, but Detroit Arcology has room for two hackers to room for free from September 1st to June 2025.
The last time I posted, we got the fantastic 3D robot engineer @!yfgame who is now rocking it in Texas with Epiroc.
I am an OSE apprentice from Summer-X 2021, a builder / absent-minded college teacher, and the very first open source hardware project I made was a pulse programmer for quantum computing experiments on SourceForge.
If you or anyone you know would be interested in applying, please lmk (reply here or DM, all questions welcome)</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=thumbsup><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=👍 src=media-ose/1f44d-27259.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1275962169212669972 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1275962169212669972><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, August 22, 2024 1:38 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1275962169212669972>8/22/2024 1:38 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I will DM you!</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=fire><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=🔥 src=media-ose/1f525-8FE4F.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>2</span></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1275962715109720106 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1275962715109720106><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, August 22, 2024 1:40 AM">1:40 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I sent over a friend request :)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1280955535541276723 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1280955535541276723><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/4-4551A.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=pmangatq0238 data-user-id=977717870379278356>curiousalbert</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, September 4, 2024 8:19 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1280955535541276723>9/4/2024 8:19 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>alrighty, the news
<ul><li>watch the planet go bye, starting in hollywood (now a ghost town) : <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@totallymorgan/video/7392703812315761963">https://www.tiktok.com/@totallymorgan/video/7392703812315761963</a> - awesome, the brainwash / bullshit wont last for ever <img
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title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></li><li>great resource, <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@robertgreene/video/7406008592735669535">https://www.tiktok.com/@robertgreene/video/7406008592735669535</a></li><li>til humanity finally decides to stop this sick rat race (always possible, tomorrow) , here a little sneak preview, <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@growingwithleong/video/7402095544912465170">https://www.tiktok.com/@growingwithleong/video/7402095544912465170</a> | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/aswaduhuru/">https://www.instagram.com/aswaduhuru/</a> | <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@robertgreene/video/7406008592735669535">https://www.tiktok.com/@robertgreene/video/7406008592735669535</a>, lovely, mind the absence of gadgets, junk, ... </li><li>Marcin updated the resource section : <a href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/OSE_Social_Media">https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/OSE_Social_Media</a> | still dont know what to build, download, buy or do ... <img
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have a nice one</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-BF0C8.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-BF0C8.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (1.69 MB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(254,44,85,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.tiktok.com/@totallymorgan/video/7392703812315761963><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">TikTok &#183; Morgan Evans</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">29K likes, 2780 comments. “Tldr: its bad ”</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/ocidjzICEBAfPIqYAzOw5F4spAiL6KTBBLDy0w~tpl-AE7B9.jpeg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/ocidjzICEBAfPIqYAzOw5F4spAiL6KTBBLDy0w~tpl-AE7B9.jpeg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(254,44,85,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.tiktok.com/@robertgreene/video/7406008592735669535><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">TikTok &#183; Robert Greene</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">74.2K likes, 433 comments. “The way Machiavelli rips the masks off people’s faces.”</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/ogeHHAZt2VB8EEImbxFfEBAQvbxMrkEDRCDmEF~tpl-BA901.jpeg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/ogeHHAZt2VB8EEImbxFfEBAQvbxMrkEDRCDmEF~tpl-BA901.jpeg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(254,44,85,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.tiktok.com/@growingwithleong/video/7402095544912465170><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">TikTok &#183; Leong’s Growth Journal</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">64.2K likes, 3511 comments. “Account Introduction.”</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/e83c447a1f634673afe5decc5147aa22_172343467-DE11A.jpeg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/e83c447a1f634673afe5decc5147aa22_172343467-DE11A.jpeg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(254,44,85,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.tiktok.com/@robertgreene/video/7406008592735669535,><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Visit TikTok to discover videos!</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Watch, follow, and discover more trending content.</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/poster-square-7940A.png> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/poster-square-7940A.png alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1283857348804476929 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1283857348804476929><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/4-4551A.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=pmangatq0238 data-user-id=977717870379278356>curiousalbert</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, September 12, 2024 8:30 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1283857348804476929>9/12/2024 8:30 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>that&#39;s it folks, pack your shit, ChatGPT figured it, still looking for a text to video tool (flux.ai), to spam the whole planet with fake news ...
<a href="https://git.osr-plastic.org/osr-plastic/osr-ai/src/branch/master/tests/chatgpt/meta/the-beginning-power-to-the-people.md">https://git.osr-plastic.org/osr-plastic/osr-ai/src/branch/master/tests/chatgpt/meta/the-beginning-power-to-the-people.md</a></span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1283857350167494690 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1283857350167494690><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/def5e0a7ff07e73d477a87df10a3dc4f-BFBB1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(153,45,34) title=Arcane#7800 data-user-id=437808476106784770>Arcane</span> <span class=chatlog__author-tag>BOT</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, September 12, 2024 8:30 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1283857350167494690>9/12/2024 8:30 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="pmangatq0238">@curiousalbert</span> has reached level <strong>5</strong>. GG!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1283857465292881940 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1283857465292881940><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/4-4551A.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=pmangatq0238 data-user-id=977717870379278356>curiousalbert</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, September 12, 2024 8:31 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1283857465292881940>9/12/2024 8:31 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--multiline nohighlight">[% osr-ai model:&quot;gpt-4o&quot;gui:false cache:false logLevel:&quot;trace&quot; filters:&quot;code&quot; dst:&quot;${SRC_DIR}/${SRC_NAME}-script-2.md&quot; %]
Prepare a 5-part speech series announcing the end of capitalism and the transition to a new economic system, suspending all non-essential activities:
1. **Stay Home:** Announce that starting tomorrow, all citizens must stay home, and food will be provided by the government.
2. **Repurposing Factories:** Most factories will be demolished to create public spaces and sustainable infrastructure.
3. **New Purpose for Work:** Redefine work as community service, fostering innovation for public good, not profit.
4. **Decentralized Governance:** Shift decision-making to local communities with national coordination for equity. That means that all existing power structures will be replaced by a random selection.
5. **A Vision for the Future:** Outline a future of shared abundance, global leadership, and sustainable living.
Each speech will focus on these key points, guiding the nation through this transition.
[% osr-ai-end %]</code></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Thursday, September 12, 2024 8:40 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1283859356969865226 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1283859356969865226><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/4-4551A.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=pmangatq0238 data-user-id=977717870379278356>curiousalbert</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, September 12, 2024 8:38 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1283859356969865226>9/12/2024 8:38 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>lol, it didnt miss that part <img
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<h2>Citizens of Our New Society</h2>
A profound change in governance is upon us. To ensure equity and fairness in decision-making, we are decentralizing power to local communities <strong>while maintaining national coordination.</strong>
The structure of governance will pivot towards a system where all existing power structures, previously steeped in hierarchy and entrenched interests, will be replaced by a random selection process. This ensures that governance becomes a truly representative and dynamic force, responsive to the needs of every citizen.
Local communities will spearhead decisions that directly affect them, with national coordination serving as a support system to ensure equality and efficient resource distribution across all regions.
This model empowers every citizen, fostering a society where governance is accessible, fair, and inherently democratic. Your voice will now truly shape the course of our collective future.</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1283859567612006420 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1283859567612006420><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, September 12, 2024 8:39 PM">8:39 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><strong>Speech 5: A Vision for the Future</strong>
Dearly Beloved Citizens,
Together, we envision a future brimming with shared abundance, sustainability, and <strong>global leadership</strong>. The transformation we undertake now sets the stage for a society where every individual&#39;s potential is realized and nurtured.
Our commitment to sustainable living will guide us to develop technologies and habits that support and preserve our environment. Our global leadership will be characterized by cooperation, peace, and the equitable sharing of resources, ensuring no one is left behind.
Together, we are crafting a world where every person has access to life&#39;s necessities and the opportunity to contribute creatively and meaningfully to our shared human experience.
As we move forward, let us remember that the strength of our society lies in our unity and our shared commitment to a better, more sustainable, and equitable future for all.
Thank you, with deepest respect and faith in our collective potential.
<a href="https://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=3688007">https://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=3688007</a></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Thursday, September 12, 2024 8:41 PM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=3688007"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">GPTs and Hallucination - ACM Queue</div></a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1286598106611322931 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1286598106611322931><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/4-4551A.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=pmangatq0238 data-user-id=977717870379278356>curiousalbert</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, September 20, 2024 10:01 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1286598106611322931>9/20/2024 10:01 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Alrighty,
the f* news (&#39;follow, if you give a sh**&#39; ): <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@kellermankomedy/video/7411759106597621038">https://www.tiktok.com/@kellermankomedy/video/7411759106597621038</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(254,44,85,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.tiktok.com/@kellermankomedy/video/7411759106597621038><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">TikTok &#183; The Real Kellerman</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">9148 likes, 256 comments. “September 6, 2024”</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/e571247c279a4acea0bd4469007f3021_172568466-6809A.jpeg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/e571247c279a4acea0bd4469007f3021_172568466-6809A.jpeg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1286598189071335464 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1286598189071335464><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, September 20, 2024 10:01 AM">10:01 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Hey Earth, you&#39;re looking hot today : <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@elle.cordova/video/7416379342642613546">https://www.tiktok.com/@elle.cordova/video/7416379342642613546</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.tiktok.com/@elle.cordova/video/7416379342642613546><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">TikTok &#183; Elle Cordova</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">9968 likes, 348 comments. “Earth is too hot”</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/ocTIEpiB73fBU26BRzisCjhIbHiCHIAdSZAk4w~tpl-5B286.jpeg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/ocTIEpiB73fBU26BRzisCjhIbHiCHIAdSZAk4w~tpl-5B286.jpeg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1286598444676284416 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1286598444676284416><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, September 20, 2024 10:02 AM">10:02 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Not giving a f* : framework haters will love it : <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@lexfridman/video/7407871359591664926">https://www.tiktok.com/@lexfridman/video/7407871359591664926</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(254,44,85,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.tiktok.com/@lexfridman/video/7407871359591664926><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">TikTok &#183; Lex Fridman</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">5136 likes, 74 comments. “Launch a startup by yourself - clip from Lex Fridman Podcast #440 with Pieter Levels. Guest bio: Pieter Levels (aka levelsio on X) is a self-taught developer and entrepreneur who has designed, programmed, launched over 40 startups, many of which are highly successful.”</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/bb360e5d4c9e4454a2f028f2ef88537a_172477948-4944F.jpeg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/bb360e5d4c9e4454a2f028f2ef88537a_172477948-4944F.jpeg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1286598651736621057 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1286598651736621057><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, September 20, 2024 10:03 AM">10:03 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>And as things cant get worse, take care of your underwear, and women with 2 As in their name : <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@eduardtok/video/7407158787129249066">https://www.tiktok.com/@eduardtok/video/7407158787129249066</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(254,44,85,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.tiktok.com/@eduardtok/video/7407158787129249066><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">TikTok &#183; Eduard <img
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title="blue_heart"
src="media-ose/1f499-93A1C.svg"><img
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title="owl"
src="media-ose/1f989-97D3A.svg"></div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">168.1K likes, 12.5K comments. “Does your name have 2 A’s?<img
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title="thinking"
src="media-ose/1f914-15707.svg">”</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/osqu1zLUEgLgji6BF4SEjABi5nZsEPIDJ7vAB~tplv-94F5D.jpeg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/osqu1zLUEgLgji6BF4SEjABi5nZsEPIDJ7vAB~tplv-94F5D.jpeg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1286674386170155008 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1286674386170155008><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/4-4551A.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=pmangatq0238 data-user-id=977717870379278356>curiousalbert</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, September 20, 2024 3:04 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1286674386170155008>9/20/2024 3:04 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>btw. bloody ChatGPT, just doesn&#39;t like &#39;we are happy to share with you ...&#39;, putting always &#39;we are excited ...to introduce&#39; instead - no matter what instructions I put in place, eg: &#39;humble honest, rephrase, minimal&#39; ...
toolbox however growing by the day <img
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src="media-ose/1f60d-BEAFF.svg"></span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-05040.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-05040.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (155.39 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-7B053.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-7B053.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (35.93 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1287324411174719518 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1287324411174719518><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/4-4551A.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=pmangatq0238 data-user-id=977717870379278356>curiousalbert</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, September 22, 2024 10:07 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1287324411174719518>9/22/2024 10:07 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>in the meantime we finally have a personal bs-filter, enjoy a ride into &#39;intellectual garbage&#39; <img
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title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> <a href="https://cdn.bookey.app/files/pdf/book/en/the-parasitic-mind.pdf">https://cdn.bookey.app/files/pdf/book/en/the-parasitic-mind.pdf</a> | referring as well to &#39;On Bullshit&#39;</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1287324412160380948 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1287324412160380948><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/def5e0a7ff07e73d477a87df10a3dc4f-BFBB1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(153,45,34) title=Arcane#7800 data-user-id=437808476106784770>Arcane</span> <span class=chatlog__author-tag>BOT</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, September 22, 2024 10:07 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1287324412160380948>9/22/2024 10:07 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="pmangatq0238">@curiousalbert</span> has reached level <strong>6</strong>. GG!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1287848038244552748 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1287848038244552748><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/4-4551A.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=pmangatq0238 data-user-id=977717870379278356>curiousalbert</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, September 23, 2024 8:48 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1287848038244552748>9/23/2024 8:48 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>in case you&#39;re of bored western / woke culture : <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUExfRjeYOw&amp;ab_channel=LisaCarmenLaCarmencika">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUExfRjeYOw&amp;ab_channel=LisaCarmenLaCarmencika</a> | lovely place in spain, Granada, ... it was like the west couldnt reach them <img
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in the background, an old building by the arabs, as many &#39;imports&#39; left rotten or for sale, just like the natural water system on Ibiza ...</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Monday, September 23, 2024 8:51 PM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkIF4wLDzmhp2g5luMYpfkw><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Lisa Carmen La Carmencika</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUExfRjeYOw"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Mirador San nicolas Albaycin en Granada, rumba improvisada con Gita...</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/oUExfRjeYOw width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1287848520291979416 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1287848520291979416><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, September 23, 2024 8:50 PM">8:50 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/DAOZHh2oI82/">https://www.instagram.com/p/DAOZHh2oI82/</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-902DD.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-902DD.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (668.85 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1289335901511618560 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1289335901511618560><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, September 27, 2024 11:20 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1289335901511618560>9/27/2024 11:20 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>What a day, 5 times banned in one day alone <img
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alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> - one for handing a list to 1500 more censored folks, another one providing a list to sheet providers, and the rest because of snitches on the de/us or ose server, those accounts had no activity or whatsoever . lovely - enjoy a delve into &#39;parasites &amp; sneaky fu***ers&#39;, shedding some light at the issues at hand : <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTq6CYfikbg&amp;ab_channel=JordanBPeterson">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTq6CYfikbg&amp;ab_channel=JordanBPeterson</a></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Friday, September 27, 2024 11:29 PM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCL_f53ZEJxp8TtlOkHwMV9Q><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Jordan B Peterson</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTq6CYfikbg"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Evolution, Religion, and Happiness | Dr. Gad Saad | EP 377</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/PTq6CYfikbg width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__sticker title=What><img class=chatlog__sticker--media src=media-ose/813950661292064808-435A9.png alt=Sticker></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1289336787621380248 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1289336787621380248><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, September 27, 2024 11:24 PM">11:24 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>till PP and now OSE I had no idea how deep hate/fasc*** is anchored in people&#39;s mind, apparently increasing with newer generations, I suppose it&#39;s a response, being afraid, ... no idea tbh. another great resource to get over <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@jennydinovi">https://www.tiktok.com/@jennydinovi</a></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Friday, September 27, 2024 11:29 PM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.tiktok.com/@jennydinovi><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Jenny Dinovi on TikTok</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">@jennydinovi 189.2k Followers, 298 Following, 2.3m Likes - Watch awesome short videos created by Jenny Dinovi</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/dfbbdeb8e4b1a663d59494a313df0101~c5_720x72-3C48F.jpeg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/dfbbdeb8e4b1a663d59494a313df0101~c5_720x72-3C48F.jpeg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1289337471997448243 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1289337471997448243><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, September 27, 2024 11:26 PM">11:26 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/DAaxELMOKiw/">https://www.instagram.com/p/DAaxELMOKiw/</a></span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1289337473318522951 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1289337473318522951><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/def5e0a7ff07e73d477a87df10a3dc4f-BFBB1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(153,45,34) title=Arcane#7800 data-user-id=437808476106784770>Arcane</span> <span class=chatlog__author-tag>BOT</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, September 27, 2024 11:26 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1289337473318522951>9/27/2024 11:26 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="karen_fi501_13984">@Guinea Pig</span> has reached level <strong>1</strong>. GG!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1289347929555079249 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1289347929555079249><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, September 28, 2024 12:08 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1289347929555079249>9/28/2024 12:08 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>re peterson, indeed annoying, simultaneously at many different fronts, well put - but indeed, from the projects we&#39;ve evaluating over the last 8 years, the so called &#39;left-wing authoritarianism&#39; comes with its own individual taste, often folks behind the buttons, unable to answer even the simplest questions about the product they try to sell (see marcella/sigolene @ PP - deciding whats being sold, and said) - wrapped up by 99.99% bs - i give them that - it became sport @ worldofobjects</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1289348758626242575 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1289348758626242575><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, September 28, 2024 12:11 AM">12:11 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>so all in all, capitalism works - the higher you made it up in the food chain, the more likely you&#39;re selling other people&#39;s labor (amazon, ...) - well done</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Saturday, September 28, 2024 12:12 AM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1289369101852086366 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1289369101852086366><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=303adastra data-user-id=457390086879969280>303adastra</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, September 28, 2024 1:32 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1289369101852086366>9/28/2024 1:32 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Humans suck. amiright?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1289397888434311189 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1289397888434311189><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, September 28, 2024 3:26 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1289397888434311189>9/28/2024 3:26 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>G&#39;old Georgy nailed it better than I ever could do : <a href="https://www.instagram.com/stories/highlights/17929528876702842/">https://www.instagram.com/stories/highlights/17929528876702842/</a> (skip 3 vids) - question is, when people take finally back control over their lifes, ...
weird question; but suits well, for someone from OSHW, introducing another useless abstraction <img
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alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Saturday, September 28, 2024 3:28 AM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,255,255,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.instagram.com/stories/highlights/17929528876702842/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Culture = @<em>yasin__pro</em></div></a></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/241522138_870144077211354_2648052521836932-4F8D5.jpg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/241522138_870144077211354_2648052521836932-4F8D5.jpg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1289402427451113503 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1289402427451113503><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=303adastra>303adastra</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1289369101852086366')"> Humans suck. amiright? </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, September 28, 2024 3:44 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1289402427451113503>9/28/2024 3:44 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>how&#39;s it going anyway ? I somehow hope we can create manuals, assembly instructions, context &amp; options aware using LLMs instead - on the fly; DHALL as configuration language looked tempting but also kinda impossible to use by users (eg: teachers/students, for new forks).</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Saturday, September 28, 2024 3:45 AM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1289403933600776323 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1289403933600776323><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, September 28, 2024 3:50 AM">3:50 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>here for instance, would take me 2 weeks alone, as better equipped garage hero to generate the usage manual, for all configs/variations, ... not incl. renderings, blocking my machine the whole day</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-C3A66.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-C3A66.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (472.46 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1289426667219058750 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1289426667219058750><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, September 28, 2024 5:21 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1289426667219058750>9/28/2024 5:21 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>damn, OpenAI got an update for countring the Rs in strawberry <img
loading="lazy"
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alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-DC7B8.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-DC7B8.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (37.59 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1289426865441865791 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1289426865441865791><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, September 28, 2024 5:22 AM">5:22 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>but is certainly well informed</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-22928.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-22928.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (52.43 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1289427123898941440 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1289427123898941440><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, September 28, 2024 5:23 AM">5:23 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>and knows concrete steps as well, just needs a little help <img
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alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-AA29B.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-AA29B.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (56.74 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1289427125400502396 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1289427125400502396><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/def5e0a7ff07e73d477a87df10a3dc4f-BFBB1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(153,45,34) title=Arcane#7800 data-user-id=437808476106784770>Arcane</span> <span class=chatlog__author-tag>BOT</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, September 28, 2024 5:23 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1289427125400502396>9/28/2024 5:23 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="karen_fi501_13984">@Guinea Pig</span> has reached level <strong>2</strong>. GG!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1289931563139858513 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1289931563139858513><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a63d122e27a3fb038bfe313622933231-319C9.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=roths data-user-id=188532829095854080>Roths</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, September 29, 2024 2:47 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1289931563139858513>9/29/2024 2:47 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBPUzU-MY1I">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBPUzU-MY1I</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCu6mSoMNzHQiBIOCkHUa2Aw><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Cody&#x27;sLab</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBPUzU-MY1I"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Mining Magnetite</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/HBPUzU-MY1I width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1289931585033998408 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1289931585033998408><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, September 29, 2024 2:47 PM">2:47 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I just think this is neat</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1289931617460293714 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1289931617460293714><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, September 29, 2024 2:47 PM">2:47 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>DIY magnetite mining</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1289932711074467850 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1289932711074467850><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, September 29, 2024 2:52 PM">2:52 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Way he does it is p efficient for a one man setup using magnets</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=magnet><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=🧲 src=media-ose/1f9f2-2BF64.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1290732733194043445 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1290732733194043445><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, October 1, 2024 7:51 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1290732733194043445>10/1/2024 7:51 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>#random, #metalporn
added another 2.5 years to our gallery : <a href="https://photos.app.goo.gl/cyVD5hGv3uHfuyKU6">https://photos.app.goo.gl/cyVD5hGv3uHfuyKU6</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><a href=media-ose/AP1GczO_rdNvwrW4pbu_lBJssZWmiRGqYyD03HFAAf-B8580> <img class=chatlog__embed-generic-image src=media-ose/AP1GczO_rdNvwrW4pbu_lBJssZWmiRGqYyD03HFAAf-B8580 alt="Embedded image" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1291434223126712481 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1291434223126712481><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, October 3, 2024 6:18 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1291434223126712481>10/3/2024 6:18 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>sooner or later, &#39;coders&#39; getting cooked <img
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alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg">
<a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@nate.b.jones/video/7411525973801192734">https://www.tiktok.com/@nate.b.jones/video/7411525973801192734</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(254,44,85,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.tiktok.com/@nate.b.jones/video/7411525973801192734><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">TikTok &#183; Nate</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">8607 likes, 254 comments. “What are you building?”</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/oYtACCIg04GTjeAO8CH1Lv2IexqD2NQIDeI1b8~tpl-BF25F.jpeg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/oYtACCIg04GTjeAO8CH1Lv2IexqD2NQIDeI1b8~tpl-BF25F.jpeg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1291434384708341760 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1291434384708341760><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, October 3, 2024 6:19 PM">6:19 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>ai generated code still sucks but hey, all the scaffolding done; ready to play in minutes <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="💃"
title="dancer"
src="media-ose/1f483-F1B1B.svg"></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Thursday, October 3, 2024 6:19 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1291434590111531111 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1291434590111531111><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, October 3, 2024 6:19 PM">6:19 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>#sexyworldofobjects - yes, I&#39;d buy that screw
<a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@gracewellsphoto/video/7421285652202802465">https://www.tiktok.com/@gracewellsphoto/video/7421285652202802465</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(254,44,85,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.tiktok.com/@gracewellsphoto/video/7421285652202802465><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">TikTok &#183; Grace Wells</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">33.5K likes, 593 comments. “Replying to @lolololololol you.”</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/c5baf744b32c4632ac5d1cf62697a225_172790272-B75B2.jpeg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/c5baf744b32c4632ac5d1cf62697a225_172790272-B75B2.jpeg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1291435036150730765 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1291435036150730765><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, October 3, 2024 6:21 PM">6:21 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>mind the amount of likes/engagements - 50k as average, not too bad - for makers nowadays, PP bubble/Scam now at 52 pity likes
<a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@abbydegraff/video/7419042082653769003">https://www.tiktok.com/@abbydegraff/video/7419042082653769003</a></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Friday, October 4, 2024 8:29 AM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(254,44,85,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.tiktok.com/@abbydegraff/video/7419042082653769003><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">TikTok &#183; Abby</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">29.8K likes, 1679 comments. “#growth #transformation #healing #intuition #motivation ”</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/oIrI6TF6XIDLS8CAf2CAf9ErN1QyjM9Hke32uC~tpl-E8E5B.jpeg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/oIrI6TF6XIDLS8CAf2CAf9ErN1QyjM9Hke32uC~tpl-E8E5B.jpeg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1291445099431067670 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1291445099431067670><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, October 3, 2024 7:01 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1291445099431067670>10/3/2024 7:01 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>btw. how things are going in the US ?
plenty of rumors that the bloodthirsty empire will come finally down its knees ...</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-4680A.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-4680A.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (38.33 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1293261357990285353 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1293261357990285353><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, October 8, 2024 7:18 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1293261357990285353>10/8/2024 7:18 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>here we go, #lazyopensource, this time useful, keep tracking your M10 wrench on a messy bench : <a href="https://github.com/PsyChip/machina">https://github.com/PsyChip/machina</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(30,35,39,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://github.com/PsyChip/machina><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">GitHub - PsyChip/machina: OpenCV+YOLO+LLAVA powered video surveilla...</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">OpenCV+YOLO+LLAVA powered video surveillance system - PsyChip/machina</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/machina-5C649> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/machina-5C649 alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1293261684105940993 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1293261684105940993><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, October 8, 2024 7:20 PM">7:20 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>#offlineliberty</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Tuesday, October 8, 2024 7:21 PM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/track-673F6.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/track-673F6.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: track.png (269.29 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1293262947962847385 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1293262947962847385><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, October 8, 2024 7:25 PM">7:25 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>and another olala, distributed app-states, now for the web : <a href="https://jazz.tools/">https://jazz.tools/</a> - the game devs under us may remember TNL, 20 years ago <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://jazz.tools/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">jazz - Instant sync</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Go beyond request/response - ship modern apps with sync.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1293689168752414762 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1293689168752414762><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, October 9, 2024 11:38 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1293689168752414762>10/9/2024 11:38 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Plastic, in your brain <img
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alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@jvandis/video/7407913725967224110">https://www.tiktok.com/@jvandis/video/7407913725967224110</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(254,44,85,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.tiktok.com/@jvandis/video/7407913725967224110><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">TikTok &#183; Dr. Jane</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">206.8K likes, 9601 comments. “#greenscreen ”</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/oAI4A8OUEgwMDi7BE4TEnANi7QZsoNIwElPAB~tplv-6513A.jpeg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/oAI4A8OUEgwMDi7BE4TEnANi7QZsoNIwElPAB~tplv-6513A.jpeg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1293844848620736546 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1293844848620736546><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, October 10, 2024 9:57 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1293844848620736546>10/10/2024 9:57 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Lovely, the documentation is the code; getting there
<code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--multiline nohighlight">[%- include &quot;basics.md&quot; assign:&quot;basics&quot; %]
[%- include &quot;shares.md&quot; assign:&quot;paths&quot; %]
[%- include &quot;network.md&quot; assign:&quot;network&quot; %]
[%- include &quot;services.md&quot; assign:&quot;services&quot; %]
[%- capture image-0 -%]
[[OSR_MACHINES_ASSETS_URL]]/assets/newsletter/common/products/solutions/platform.jpg
[%- endcapture -%]
[% osr-ai model:&quot;gpt-4o&quot; cache:false gui:false cache:false logLevel:&quot;trace&quot; filters:&quot;code&quot; dst:&quot;${SRC_DIR}/docker-compose.yml&quot; %]
Create a docker compose file
[[basics]]
[[paths]]
[[network]]
[[services]]
[% osr-ai-end %]</code>
source : <a href="https://git.osr-plastic.org/osr-plastic/osr-systems/src/branch/master/src/default.osr">https://git.osr-plastic.org/osr-plastic/osr-systems/src/branch/master/src/default.osr</a>
output: <a href="https://git.osr-plastic.org/osr-plastic/osr-systems/src/branch/master/src/docker-compose.yml">https://git.osr-plastic.org/osr-plastic/osr-systems/src/branch/master/src/docker-compose.yml</a></span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1293844850004725772 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1293844850004725772><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/def5e0a7ff07e73d477a87df10a3dc4f-BFBB1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(153,45,34) title=Arcane#7800 data-user-id=437808476106784770>Arcane</span> <span class=chatlog__author-tag>BOT</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, October 10, 2024 9:57 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1293844850004725772>10/10/2024 9:57 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="karen_fi501_13984">@Guinea Pig</span> has reached level <strong>6</strong>. GG!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1293845142373142539 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1293845142373142539><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, October 10, 2024 9:58 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1293845142373142539>10/10/2024 9:58 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I remember times we had to create 6 different documents for a piece of code, finger torture in Sparx-Enterprise-Architect <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1293846429898506331 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1293846429898506331><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, October 10, 2024 10:03 AM">10:03 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>with the price of intelligence heading toward ZERO, I wonder how the ultimate IDE for Marcin, and Dave Hakkens will look like <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg">
<a href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/List_of_CAD_Programs">https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/List_of_CAD_Programs</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/List_of_CAD_Programs><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">List of CAD Programs</div></a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1294016399265628172 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1294016399265628172><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, October 10, 2024 9:19 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1294016399265628172>10/10/2024 9:19 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>wtf, OpenAI loosing data
input : <a href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/api.php?action=parse&amp;page=List_of_CAD_Programs&amp;format=json">https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/api.php?action=parse&amp;page=List_of_CAD_Programs&amp;format=json</a>
source prompt : <a href="https://git.osr-plastic.org/osr-plastic/osr-ai/src/branch/master/tests/chatgpt/markup/ose_cad_summarize.osrl">https://git.osr-plastic.org/osr-plastic/osr-ai/src/branch/master/tests/chatgpt/markup/ose_cad_summarize.osrl</a>
output <a href="https://git.osr-plastic.org/osr-plastic/osr-ai/src/branch/master/tests/chatgpt/markup/ose_cad.md">https://git.osr-plastic.org/osr-plastic/osr-ai/src/branch/master/tests/chatgpt/markup/ose_cad.md</a>
<code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--multiline nohighlight">## List_of_CAD_Programs
[% assign url = &quot;https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/api.php?action=parse&amp;page=List_of_CAD_Programs&amp;format=json&quot; %]
[% assign jsonPath = &quot;$.parse.text[*]&quot; %]
[%- get url path:jsonPath assign:&quot;content&quot; after:&quot;markdown&quot; -%]
[% assign default_filters = &quot;code&quot; %]
[% assign ai_instruction = &quot;summarize, as markdown table, add columns : license (exact), status, website, pros and cons, supported formats, underlying technology (splines, b-rep, ...), developer access/api, age, codebase/language, wikipedia link&quot; %]
[% osr-ai model:&quot;gpt-4o&quot; cache:false gui:false logLevel:&quot;debug&quot; filters:default_filters dst:&quot;${SRC_DIR}/ose_cad.md&quot; %]
[[ai_instruction]]
[[content]]
[% osr-ai-end %]
[% osr-ai model:&quot;gpt-4o&quot; cache:false gui:false logLevel:&quot;debug&quot; filters:default_filters dst:&quot;${SRC_DIR}/ose_cad.json&quot; %]
as json
[[content]]
[% osr-ai-end %]</code>
Bloody Langchain to the rescue <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Thursday, October 10, 2024 9:19 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1294016882344595598 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1294016882344595598><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, October 10, 2024 9:21 PM">9:21 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>and to ruin your day entirely, here the wikimedia output, via pandoc : <a href="https://git.osr-plastic.org/osr-plastic/osr-ai/src/branch/master/tests/chatgpt/markup/ose_cad.md.wiki">https://git.osr-plastic.org/osr-plastic/osr-ai/src/branch/master/tests/chatgpt/markup/ose_cad.md.wiki</a> -</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1295422991743586314 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1295422991743586314><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, October 14, 2024 6:28 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1295422991743586314>10/14/2024 6:28 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>for people with OCD, new OS enclosure system; took a few lessons from Apple / Steve Jobs : sexy, heavy, metallic, respectable look</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/drive-test-89B41.jpg> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/drive-test-89B41.jpg alt="Image attachment" title="Image: drive-test.jpg (128.85 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/DSC03100-E1BB3.JPG> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/DSC03100-E1BB3.JPG alt="Image attachment" title="Image: DSC03100.JPG (236.5 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1295423361739919431 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1295423361739919431><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, October 14, 2024 6:29 PM">6:29 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>left to do : universal plug/terminal system, wireless bus (chaining), OS PID, touchscreen, numpad, ... all the basics not done yet good enough <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1295628463037874218 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1295628463037874218><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, October 15, 2024 8:04 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1295628463037874218>10/15/2024 8:04 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>For folks working under extreme conditions, or suffering from long-term burn-out (14/7) : &#39;shilajit&#39;, <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@healthywjessica/video/7416466641858350342">https://www.tiktok.com/@healthywjessica/video/7416466641858350342</a> - just tried, removed a good chunk of brainfog, and lowered depression levels <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg">
see also : <a href="https://www.creativeboom.com/features/mens-mental-health-and-the-creative-industries/">https://www.creativeboom.com/features/mens-mental-health-and-the-creative-industries/</a></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Tuesday, October 15, 2024 8:23 AM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(254,44,85,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.tiktok.com/@healthywjessica/video/7416466641858350342><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">TikTok &#183; Healthy With Jessica</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">437.6K likes, 2351 comments. “#barbaraoneill #healer #healthandwellness #health #holistichealth #shilajit ”</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/owvCjSDRFkWf2lsHdjTwACCIJ6eEISAfgNSkoE~tpl-605B7.jpeg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/owvCjSDRFkWf2lsHdjTwACCIJ6eEISAfgNSkoE~tpl-605B7.jpeg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.creativeboom.com/features/mens-mental-health-and-the-creative-industries/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Why the creative industry needs to start talking about men&#39;s mental...</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Why the creative industry needs to start talking about men&#39;s mental health.</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/47bff38253d0dd33d70480c95248b90bce091785_8-F9084.png> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/47bff38253d0dd33d70480c95248b90bce091785_8-F9084.png alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1295628680302825533 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1295628680302825533><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, October 15, 2024 8:05 AM">8:05 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>for some reason the very lady is being hunted for her work ... rings a bell <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> -</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Tuesday, October 15, 2024 8:09 AM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1295628960784318504 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1295628960784318504><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, October 15, 2024 8:06 AM">8:06 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>whilst at it, check out the werewolf pattern : <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@tribusleonum/video/7413244498282646789">https://www.tiktok.com/@tribusleonum/video/7413244498282646789</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(254,44,85,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.tiktok.com/@tribusleonum/video/7413244498282646789><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">TikTok &#183; Mater Leonum</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">20.5K likes, 912 comments. “An informed, organised minority is going to win over an uninformed, disorganised majority. You can test that by playing werewolves game of deception. Players are assigned secret roles, you’re either a Werewolf or a Villager. Werewolves are fewer in numbers but know exactly who each other are. Villagers, form the major...</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/04a07d55e1544a4b94acdbf0f868e16c_172603050-678D4.jpeg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/04a07d55e1544a4b94acdbf0f868e16c_172603050-678D4.jpeg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1295848956768817163 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1295848956768817163><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, October 15, 2024 10:41 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1295848956768817163>10/15/2024 10:41 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>we&#39;re not meant to live this way <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> and he&#39;s right - <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@djsouray/video/7419086445505252626">https://www.tiktok.com/@djsouray/video/7419086445505252626</a>
<a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@jredwardsart/video/7425030131434933537">https://www.tiktok.com/@jredwardsart/video/7425030131434933537</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(254,44,85,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.tiktok.com/@djsouray/video/7419086445505252626><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">TikTok &#183; djSOURAY</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">7199 likes, 651 comments. “Moded Cassette player from Aircraft and ww2 russian Japanese radio parts.”</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/30401076c07644ad9e22aa46b79e23fa_172739068-F0A41.jpeg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/30401076c07644ad9e22aa46b79e23fa_172739068-F0A41.jpeg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(254,44,85,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.tiktok.com/@jredwardsart/video/7425030131434933537><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">TikTok &#183; JREdwardsART</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">168.2K likes, 1904 comments. Check out JREdwardsART’s video.</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/o0XPXifCAZjIhB7bIzAhv1bAIJiChzVnoBALEN~tpl-FE40C.jpeg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/o0XPXifCAZjIhB7bIzAhv1bAIJiChzVnoBALEN~tpl-FE40C.jpeg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1296367010313408575 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1296367010313408575><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, October 17, 2024 8:59 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1296367010313408575>10/17/2024 8:59 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>AI Agents, in the latent space, getting rich <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg">
<a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@nate.b.jones/video/7426361786862931231">https://www.tiktok.com/@nate.b.jones/video/7426361786862931231</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><video class=chatlog__embed-generic-video width=576 height=1024 controls><source src=media-ose/7426361786862931231-6B77D alt="Embedded video"></video></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1297931557801033748 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1297931557801033748><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, October 21, 2024 4:36 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1297931557801033748>10/21/2024 4:36 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Dont f*** with the IT guy : <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@mykeherlihy/video/7420904057478319390">https://www.tiktok.com/@mykeherlihy/video/7420904057478319390</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><video class=chatlog__embed-generic-video width=576 height=1024 controls><source src=media-ose/7420904057478319390-0302E alt="Embedded video"></video></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1297931604114800703 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1297931604114800703><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, October 21, 2024 4:36 PM">4:36 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>its not about the money !
<a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@mykeherlihy/video/7132984159949180202">https://www.tiktok.com/@mykeherlihy/video/7132984159949180202</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><video class=chatlog__embed-generic-video width=576 height=1024 controls><source src=media-ose/7132984159949180202-A6C31 alt="Embedded video"></video></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1297967473210953758 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1297967473210953758><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, October 21, 2024 6:59 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1297967473210953758>10/21/2024 6:59 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://samtxt.samrawal.com/">https://samtxt.samrawal.com/</a> : customizable online ai/llm editor - still looking for self-hosted version of vscode ... (<a href="https://github.com/coder/code-server)">https://github.com/coder/code-server)</a></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Monday, October 21, 2024 7:00 PM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(30,35,39,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://github.com/coder/code-server><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">GitHub - coder/code-server: VS Code in the browser</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">VS Code in the browser. Contribute to coder/code-server development by creating an account on GitHub.</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/code-server-7BC26> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/code-server-7BC26 alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1297967533575639040 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1297967533575639040><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, October 21, 2024 6:59 PM">6:59 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>good design practices : <a href="https://karmanivero.us/blog/turning-the-crank-design-as-a-mechanical-process/">https://karmanivero.us/blog/turning-the-crank-design-as-a-mechanical-process/</a> - learn form architects</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,255,255,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://karmanivero.us/blog/turning-the-crank-design-as-a-mechanical-process/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Turning the Crank: Design as a Mechanical Process</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">What a good design artifact looks like, what they’re actually for, and how to use them efficiently to achieve a better outcome for your project.</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/architecture-banner-6F33F.jpg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/architecture-banner-6F33F.jpg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298001851790393467 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298001851790393467><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=karen_fi501_13984>Guinea Pig</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1297967533575639040')"> good design practices : <a href="https://karmanivero.us/blog/turning-the-crank-design-as-a-mechanical-process/">https://karmanivero.us/blog/turning-the-crank-design-as-a-mechanical-process/</a> - learn form architects </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, October 21, 2024 9:15 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1298001851790393467>10/21/2024 9:15 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>This is a great article!</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298002217105756160 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298002217105756160><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, October 21, 2024 9:17 PM">9:17 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>This exact method is how I am attempting to write the documentation for the D3D printer. Documentation as code has made my life SO much easier.</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298002579778703423 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298002579778703423><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, October 21, 2024 9:18 PM">9:18 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>At the end of the day, I feel that business is just a series of activities performed on things. Those activities can be broken down into those little parts to define the business as code.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298028786058530890 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298028786058530890><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, October 21, 2024 11:02 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1298028786058530890>10/21/2024 11:02 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Exactly, or as Bill Gates wrote it the other day, &#39;the product&#39; is &#39;just&#39; the outcome of a good foundation <img
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title="dancer"
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298032900012380180 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298032900012380180><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, October 21, 2024 11:19 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1298032900012380180>10/21/2024 11:19 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>What documentation-as-code tools do you use?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298041224933937245 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298041224933937245><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, October 21, 2024 11:52 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1298041224933937245>10/21/2024 11:52 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>didnt know that exists; currently I stick to a custom version of Liquid (Liquid-JS, in Typescript); basically a DSL that allows me to add tags and filters for AI, i18n, GoogleSheets, and whatever comes along - easy to plug into Hugo/Jekyll, and other languages and platforms. <a href="https://git.polymech.io/osr-plastic/osrl/src/branch/master/tests/osr-ai/glands-scad.osrl">https://git.polymech.io/osr-plastic/osrl/src/branch/master/tests/osr-ai/glands-scad.osrl</a> ; as mentioned earlier, this allows for a highly dynamic documentation, pulling in latest Amazon offers into BOMs...</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Tuesday, October 22, 2024 12:09 AM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298041783598583871 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298041783598583871><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, October 21, 2024 11:54 PM">11:54 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>looks like we are reaching a new era; a good one - free of any painful language quirks and limitations (json, yaml,...)
animate the solar system : <a href="https://git.polymech.io/osr-plastic/osrl/src/branch/master/tests/osr-ai/open-ai-test-svg-solarsystem.svg">https://git.polymech.io/osr-plastic/osrl/src/branch/master/tests/osr-ai/open-ai-test-svg-solarsystem.svg</a></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298041921868009483 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298041921868009483><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, October 21, 2024 11:55 PM">11:55 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--multiline nohighlight">[% osr-ai model:&quot;gpt-4o&quot; cache:false gui:false logLevel:&quot;warn&quot; filters:&quot;code&quot; %]
Simluate the solar system, as SVG
- Each planet should open the link to Wikipedia.
- all planets rotate around the sun (center), animated, slow, add a thin line for the orbit
- add textures
- the background is black, covered with at least 100 stars
- make sure all planets are visible
- Add a legend with basic information : size, weight, age, make sure it fits in the screen
All as SVG, no comments
[% osr-ai-end %]</code></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298042295454797917 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298042295454797917><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, October 21, 2024 11:56 PM">11:56 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>more examples here : <a href="https://git.polymech.io/osr-plastic/osr-ai/src/branch/master/tests/chatgpt">https://git.polymech.io/osr-plastic/osr-ai/src/branch/master/tests/chatgpt</a>
not meant to be public yet ...</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298043681269612615 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298043681269612615><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, October 22, 2024 12:02 AM">12:02 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>probably another year, I have it hard to put boundaries in place, make it safe and all that ... its just too much fun <img
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title="slight_smile"
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selfhosted 1.58 bit models (mobile) are just around the corner : <a href="https://github.com/microsoft/BitNet">https://github.com/microsoft/BitNet</a></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Tuesday, October 22, 2024 12:02 AM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(30,35,39,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://github.com/microsoft/BitNet><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">GitHub - microsoft/BitNet: Official inference framework for 1-bit LLMs</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Official inference framework for 1-bit LLMs. Contribute to microsoft/BitNet development by creating an account on GitHub.</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/BitNet-CAD9C> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/BitNet-CAD9C alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298182598467518465 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298182598467518465><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich>Alexa</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1298032900012380180')"> What documentation-as-code tools do you use? </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, October 22, 2024 9:14 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1298182598467518465>10/22/2024 9:14 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>so, but what tools I should/could use else ?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298183034318622750 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298183034318622750><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, October 22, 2024 9:15 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1298183034318622750>10/22/2024 9:15 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I use the legacy version of the Distributed Open Source Hardware Framework (DOF)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298183653310070827 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298183653310070827><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, October 22, 2024 9:18 AM">9:18 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>The D3D Pro documentation is rendered from a data model written in YAML files</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298183964741341194 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298183964741341194><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, October 22, 2024 9:19 AM">9:19 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Check out the build scripts in this repository: <a href="https://github.com/AlexandriaLittle/d3d-pro">https://github.com/AlexandriaLittle/d3d-pro</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(30,35,39,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://github.com/AlexandriaLittle/d3d-pro><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">GitHub - AlexandriaLittle/d3d-pro: The D3D Pro 3D Printer, built fr...</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">The D3D Pro 3D Printer, built from Open Source Ecology designs, modeled in Legacy DOF (Distributed Open Source Hardware Framework) - AlexandriaLittle/d3d-pro</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/f0358c7c-c1e6-4cea-8afa-e89be03dc817-29644> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/f0358c7c-c1e6-4cea-8afa-e89be03dc817-29644 alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298184302680346664 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298184302680346664><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, October 22, 2024 9:20 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1298184302680346664>10/22/2024 9:20 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>yeah, seen it; didnt know you&#39;re using Liquid as well <img
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alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> <img
loading="lazy"
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alt="🥰"
title="smiling_face_with_3_hearts"
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298184341905735731 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298184341905735731><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, October 22, 2024 9:21 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1298184341905735731>10/22/2024 9:21 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I’m also now dabbling in linkml for schema validation mixed with nunjucks for a rendering engine to render a business model</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298184778104963104 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298184778104963104><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, October 22, 2024 9:22 AM">9:22 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>That work is here: <a href="https://github.com/OpenSourceMfg/osm-business-model">https://github.com/OpenSourceMfg/osm-business-model</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(30,35,39,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://github.com/OpenSourceMfg/osm-business-model><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">GitHub - OpenSourceMfg/osm-business-model: The business model for O...</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">The business model for Open Source Manufacturing LLC - OpenSourceMfg/osm-business-model</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298185603514630205 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298185603514630205><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, October 22, 2024 9:26 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1298185603514630205>10/22/2024 9:26 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Interesting, yes, schemas can be quit painful (<a href="https://github.com/OpenSourceMfg/osm-business-model/blob/main/model/schema/business-model-schema.yaml)">https://github.com/OpenSourceMfg/osm-business-model/blob/main/model/schema/business-model-schema.yaml)</a>; currently using &#39;zod&#39;, that allows validation and a bit of conversion between different environments, as Yargs-CLI apps, OpenAPI specs, ... just got into it</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298185920029397016 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298185920029397016><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, October 22, 2024 9:27 AM">9:27 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I still think the usual &#39;maker&#39; should not need to know anything about and instead focus on his product instead; ideally the system generates all : newsletter, specs, pdfs, ...</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Tuesday, October 22, 2024 9:27 AM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298186077248553031 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298186077248553031><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, October 22, 2024 9:27 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1298186077248553031>10/22/2024 9:27 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Agreed - the less you have to touch documents the better</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298186379507011594 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298186379507011594><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, October 22, 2024 9:29 AM">9:29 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Those are just all different renders of the same data model</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298186616036261918 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298186616036261918><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, October 22, 2024 9:30 AM">9:30 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Are there any advantages to using zod?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298188103676203078 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298188103676203078><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, October 22, 2024 9:36 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1298188103676203078>10/22/2024 9:36 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>yes, there are tools, zod to typescript, yaml, grunt/yargs; it has also built-in tools for unions, merge schemas (safe) - OpenAI also adapted it, to call functions</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Tuesday, October 22, 2024 9:39 AM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298188518052593764 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298188518052593764><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, October 22, 2024 9:37 AM">9:37 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://zod.dev/?id=ecosystem">https://zod.dev/?id=ecosystem</a></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298188560188575827 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298188560188575827><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, October 22, 2024 9:37 AM">9:37 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>13M downloads, a week <img
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alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298190872013307925 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298190872013307925><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, October 22, 2024 9:47 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1298190872013307925>10/22/2024 9:47 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>and thats just for a basic oshw product <img
loading="lazy"
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alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/compile_component_v2-84EC2.jpg> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/compile_component_v2-84EC2.jpg alt="Image attachment" title="Image: compile_component_v2.jpg (61.07 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/product_data-888E4.jpg> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/product_data-888E4.jpg alt="Image attachment" title="Image: product_data.jpg (46.07 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/product-pipe-1A991.jpg> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/product-pipe-1A991.jpg alt="Image attachment" title="Image: product-pipe.jpg (69.88 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298191002422480956 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298191002422480956><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, October 22, 2024 9:47 AM">9:47 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Web tech adds another layer of problems and complexity on top</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298192046783205377 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298192046783205377><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, October 22, 2024 9:51 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1298192046783205377>10/22/2024 9:51 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>What luck have you had with rendering BOMs? Have you taken any stabs at purchase lists?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298193453942968382 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298193453942968382><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, October 22, 2024 9:57 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1298193453942968382>10/22/2024 9:57 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>well, I can render now into almost anything (PDF is still unclear); BOMs however: its provided by Solidworks, another little abstraction, on top of their SDK</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298194255319142482 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298194255319142482><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, October 22, 2024 10:00 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1298194255319142482>10/22/2024 10:00 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Gotcha - I’m currently tracking the BOM line item counts by totaling the amounts called for in the documentation</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298194453634224140 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298194453634224140><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, October 22, 2024 10:01 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1298194453634224140>10/22/2024 10:01 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>problems with BOMs : those parts are more likely not accessible everywhere; a skilled person/company wont need it per se though since they do have their own suppliers for all : gears, motors, fasteners, ...</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Tuesday, October 22, 2024 10:01 AM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298194455177986099 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298194455177986099><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/def5e0a7ff07e73d477a87df10a3dc4f-BFBB1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(153,45,34) title=Arcane#7800 data-user-id=437808476106784770>Arcane</span> <span class=chatlog__author-tag>BOT</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, October 22, 2024 10:01 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1298194455177986099>10/22/2024 10:01 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="karen_fi501_13984">@Guinea Pig</span> has reached level <strong>8</strong>. GG!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298195119840821259 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298195119840821259><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, October 22, 2024 10:03 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1298195119840821259>10/22/2024 10:03 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Having a BOM that describes the components in enough detail to make it easy to find a substitute would be valuable to an average person.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298196509380182016 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298196509380182016><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, October 22, 2024 10:09 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1298196509380182016>10/22/2024 10:09 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Making it &#39;easier&#39; for the average person: not sure that should be the goal <img
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alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298196720873898095 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298196720873898095><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, October 22, 2024 10:10 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1298196720873898095>10/22/2024 10:10 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>How so?</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298197380524671078 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298197380524671078><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, October 22, 2024 10:12 AM">10:12 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I think that making oshw accessible to as many people as care to use it enables distributed manufacturing</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298198370535346229 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298198370535346229><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, October 22, 2024 10:16 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1298198370535346229>10/22/2024 10:16 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Average persons are often lazy, asking others to do their homework; and professionals wont really need that much documentation and details; its ok to provide some insights though - imagine every John Doe starting a business tomorrow - this screwed so many markets and professions already ...</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298199311531769877 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298199311531769877><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, October 22, 2024 10:20 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1298199311531769877>10/22/2024 10:20 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Every person deserves the chance to provide for themselves in a decent manner. For some that is going to be running their own businesses.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298199319513661462 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298199319513661462><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, October 22, 2024 10:20 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1298199319513661462>10/22/2024 10:20 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>same problem we have now with all this folks spinning up apps &amp; services, using AI - they actually skip all the learning, having no mental model of the tech they&#39;re using</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298199627849531392 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298199627849531392><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich>Alexa</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1298199311531769877')"> Every person deserves the chance to provide for themselves in a decent manner. For some that is going to be running their own businesses. </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, October 22, 2024 10:21 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1298199627849531392>10/22/2024 10:21 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>yeah; just saying - besides; most folks will have to design derivates of the sources; its capitalism baby - thats why no contribs make it back to the source</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298200678644191283 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298200678644191283><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, October 22, 2024 10:26 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1298200678644191283>10/22/2024 10:26 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>If that’s the case then I’ll just try to make it easy to fork</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298202018535702548 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298202018535702548><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, October 22, 2024 10:31 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1298202018535702548>10/22/2024 10:31 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>thats right; essential tools as Git indeed deserve better &amp; easier access; eg: Git over VFS</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298202470786535507 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298202470786535507><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, October 22, 2024 10:33 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1298202470786535507>10/22/2024 10:33 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I’m just hoping that the work I’ve done on the project will benefit the community more than anything</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298202600113438820 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298202600113438820><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, October 22, 2024 10:33 AM">10:33 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>So I try to make it accessible</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298222115476213760 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298222115476213760><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, October 22, 2024 11:51 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1298222115476213760>10/22/2024 11:51 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>well, perhaps a good idea to discuss this with potential stakeholders, to make sure - as Elon said, folks optimize things which shouldnt exists in the first place <img
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src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> I am sure you 9 out 10 people in front of your doorstep are in need of help</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298231623883423744 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298231623883423744><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich>Alexa</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1298202470786535507')"> I’m just hoping that the work I’ve done on the project will benefit the community more than anything </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=303adastra data-user-id=457390086879969280>303adastra</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, October 22, 2024 12:28 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1298231623883423744>10/22/2024 12:28 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Developing OSHW for the prosumer market should ultimately yield something that&#39;s useful to yourself (i.e., &quot;eating your own dog food&quot;)</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/1682184153602-E4F9E.jpg> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/1682184153602-E4F9E.jpg alt="Image attachment" title="Image: 1682184153602.jpg (42.86 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298233738504835082 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298233738504835082><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, October 22, 2024 12:37 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1298233738504835082>10/22/2024 12:37 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>that&#39;s right, the world is a big Ponzi scheme, we always produce for the next, I bet 80% of the current production is waste, just to keep that cycle flowing ... and the sharks fed</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Tuesday, October 22, 2024 12:38 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298237102206750780 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298237102206750780><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=karen_fi501_13984>Guinea Pig</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1298233738504835082')"> that&#39;s right, the world is a big Ponzi scheme, we always produce for the next, I bet 80% of the current production is waste, just to keep that cycle flowing ... and the sharks fed </span> <span class=chatlog__reply-edited-timestamp title="Tuesday, October 22, 2024 12:38 PM">(edited)</span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=303adastra data-user-id=457390086879969280>303adastra</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, October 22, 2024 12:50 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1298237102206750780>10/22/2024 12:50 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>What alternative options are there besides moving out to the country and living off the land?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298238365757341747 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298238365757341747><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, October 22, 2024 12:55 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1298238365757341747>10/22/2024 12:55 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>well, If I could I would move right away to Africa : <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt21820452/">https://www.imdb.com/title/tt21820452/</a> - they do still have values, respect and the heart <img
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src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt21820452/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">The Grab (2022) ⭐ 7.2 | Documentary</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">1h 42m</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/MV5BYjNjYzcyMjMtMzM2Zi00NGVmLThmZWEtNjc1MT-13608.jpg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/MV5BYjNjYzcyMjMtMzM2Zi00NGVmLThmZWEtNjc1MT-13608.jpg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298275590876565566 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298275590876565566><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, October 22, 2024 3:23 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1298275590876565566>10/22/2024 3:23 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Otherwise, there was this idea of creating an app, &#39;crowdfund change&#39; <img
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src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> - I have my doubts also that will actually succeed - as we say in Germany, &#39;as long the money rolls, .... &#39; - also here, PreciousPlastic gave a good insight, into the world of the &#39;alternatives&#39;, &#39;green warriors&#39;, led by corrupt imposters, ... applauded by a even more toxic crowd</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Tuesday, October 22, 2024 3:24 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298348590628081696 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298348590628081696><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, October 22, 2024 8:13 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1298348590628081696>10/22/2024 8:13 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>olala, ai taking over your screen; not sure how many jobs this will cost : <a href="https://www.anthropic.com/news/developing-computer-use">https://www.anthropic.com/news/developing-computer-use</a> - great for interactive tutorials though</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(20,20,19,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.anthropic.com/news/developing-computer-use><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Developing a computer use model</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">A discussion of how Anthropic&#39;s researchers developed Claude&#39;s new computer use skill, along with some relevant safety considerations</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/393cf77dd5c15761c47f2db9f80e30b4f6309708-2-4FC8A.png> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/393cf77dd5c15761c47f2db9f80e30b4f6309708-2-4FC8A.png alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298348917280477184 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298348917280477184><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, October 22, 2024 8:15 PM">8:15 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>well, and all that stupid things : fill in forms, design something in solidworks, send the latest designs to discord users, ... synthetic click farms</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Tuesday, October 22, 2024 8:16 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298710913213399191 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298710913213399191><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/74e3a14bf208809ed4c1ebc56dbd69e9-FDCE1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=hopefulmgowner data-user-id=662348700508749827>HopefulMGowner</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, October 23, 2024 8:13 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1298710913213399191>10/23/2024 8:13 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I&#39;ve got a intelectual challenge for ya&#39;ll. So its been revealed that back doors that the NSA put into US systems where hacked by chinese and russian hackers
How so assuming compremised infrastructure how could a cell service provider assure good security. Assume they operate similar to mint in that they rent hardware access</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298711820567187488 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298711820567187488><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, October 23, 2024 8:17 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1298711820567187488>10/23/2024 8:17 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>services are split into microservices, down to the function level ; they are isolated by using containers; the communication between those is done on application level, http/rest and now gRPC</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298712350710300753 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298712350710300753><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/74e3a14bf208809ed4c1ebc56dbd69e9-FDCE1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=hopefulmgowner data-user-id=662348700508749827>HopefulMGowner</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, October 23, 2024 8:19 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1298712350710300753>10/23/2024 8:19 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>So far the best I can figure is by doing the following
All traffic is encrypted except for signal pings which send out a unique ID (NOT an IMEI or similar hardware based approch) however once a ping is established once a sucessful connection is made to the network one or more messages are sent to other phones to send out copy pings as the original sender
In addition to this each phone containes a reposetory of unique IDs and sends them out at random</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298712573931163780 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298712573931163780><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, October 23, 2024 8:20 PM">8:20 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>So that any one user if seen on a map based on their pings looks as though they move hundreds or thousands of miles every few seconds</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298712911166050334 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298712911166050334><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, October 23, 2024 8:21 PM">8:21 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>And the per device randomized pings and devices going off the network prevents there being tracked but uninterupted counting</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298713238564900925 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298713238564900925><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, October 23, 2024 8:22 PM">8:22 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>One could even go as far as to load IDs for future accounts and ping them with some regularity so that the carrier network cannot tell when a new user actually joined</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298713616052125748 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298713616052125748><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, October 23, 2024 8:24 PM">8:24 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I was thinking each ping ID would be around 512 bits and each device would hold about 1-3 gb of IDs</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Wednesday, October 23, 2024 8:24 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298714735474380820 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298714735474380820><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, October 23, 2024 8:28 PM">8:28 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Any obvious flaws ya&#39;ll can see?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298959867666628668 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298959867666628668><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, October 24, 2024 12:42 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1298959867666628668>10/24/2024 12:42 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>AI screen mod, preferred to watch NationalGeographic content instead <img
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src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@nate.b.jones/video/7428665289467890974">https://www.tiktok.com/@nate.b.jones/video/7428665289467890974</a>
Webp, HEIC left on the bench : <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@elle.cordova/video/7427206407952469294">https://www.tiktok.com/@elle.cordova/video/7427206407952469294</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><video class=chatlog__embed-generic-video width=576 height=1024 controls><source src=media-ose/7428665289467890974-91FCF alt="Embedded video"></video></div><div class=chatlog__embed><video class=chatlog__embed-generic-video width=576 height=1024 controls><source src=media-ose/7427206407952469294-0C247 alt="Embedded video"></video></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1298960111867269150 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1298960111867269150><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, October 24, 2024 12:43 PM">12:43 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>capitalism, all around : <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@curatingambiance/video/7425340986139610401">https://www.tiktok.com/@curatingambiance/video/7425340986139610401</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><video class=chatlog__embed-generic-video width=576 height=1024 controls><source src=media-ose/7425340986139610401-FFE88 alt="Embedded video"></video></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1299384219037859870 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1299384219037859870><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, October 25, 2024 4:48 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1299384219037859870>10/25/2024 4:48 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>800M market cap, AI bot going haywire on a vulgar 2000s goat story : AI agent Goatsius Maximus got now 10M in his wallet; not in OSE&#39;s not in Dave Hakkens, nor <strong>their</strong> beloved community, spend on better tools, ... no
<a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@nate.b.jones/video/7429361998145621279">https://www.tiktok.com/@nate.b.jones/video/7429361998145621279</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><video class=chatlog__embed-generic-video width=576 height=1024 controls><source src=media-ose/7429361998145621279-CFDE4 alt="Embedded video"></video></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1299384535904944191 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1299384535904944191><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, October 25, 2024 4:50 PM">4:50 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>feeding make.com with self-made tools, <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@stephengpope/video/7426053852530625823">https://www.tiktok.com/@stephengpope/video/7426053852530625823</a> - indeed; one would need almost 100 subscriptions these days, for really basic shit - the average person facing an increasingly hostile software market</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><video class=chatlog__embed-generic-video width=576 height=1024 controls><source src=media-ose/7426053852530625823-BB531 alt="Embedded video"></video></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1299385324438421565 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1299385324438421565><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, October 25, 2024 4:53 PM">4:53 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Dont forget to disconnect : <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@herunapologeticsuccess/video/7428739143645138206">https://www.tiktok.com/@herunapologeticsuccess/video/7428739143645138206</a>
Becoming evil whilst pursuing evil : <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@julianphilosophy/video/7425376765675080990">https://www.tiktok.com/@julianphilosophy/video/7425376765675080990</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><video class=chatlog__embed-generic-video width=576 height=1024 controls><source src=media-ose/7428739143645138206-E8822 alt="Embedded video"></video></div><div class=chatlog__embed><video class=chatlog__embed-generic-video width=576 height=1024 controls><source src=media-ose/7425376765675080990-00D56 alt="Embedded video"></video></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1299459285394391155 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1299459285394391155><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, October 25, 2024 9:47 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1299459285394391155>10/25/2024 9:47 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>normal days at osr-plastic : <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@plastichub7/video/7429800493196578081">https://www.tiktok.com/@plastichub7/video/7429800493196578081</a>
#pansapansa</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><video class=chatlog__embed-generic-video width=0 height=0 controls><source src=media-ose/7429800493196578081-32069 alt="Embedded video"></video></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1299459286757539906 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1299459286757539906><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/def5e0a7ff07e73d477a87df10a3dc4f-BFBB1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(153,45,34) title=Arcane#7800 data-user-id=437808476106784770>Arcane</span> <span class=chatlog__author-tag>BOT</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, October 25, 2024 9:47 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1299459286757539906>10/25/2024 9:47 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="karen_fi501_13984">@Guinea Pig</span> has reached level <strong>9</strong>. GG!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1300168956245708820 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1300168956245708820><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, October 27, 2024 7:47 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1300168956245708820>10/27/2024 7:47 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>olala, PI got some senses now : <a href="https://github.com/hailo-ai/hailo-rpi5-examples">https://github.com/hailo-ai/hailo-rpi5-examples</a> | detects cop cars, emotions and dancing citizens <img
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title="dancer"
src="media-ose/1f483-F1B1B.svg"></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(30,35,39,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://github.com/hailo-ai/hailo-rpi5-examples><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">GitHub - hailo-ai/hailo-rpi5-examples</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Contribute to hailo-ai/hailo-rpi5-examples development by creating an account on GitHub.</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/hailo-rpi5-examples-648F8> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/hailo-rpi5-examples-648F8 alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1300169752249106503 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1300169752249106503><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, October 27, 2024 7:50 PM">7:50 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>AI debunked now by Apple, and stepping back from OpenAi&#39;s funding round recently : <a href="https://machinelearning.apple.com/research/gsm-symbolic">https://machinelearning.apple.com/research/gsm-symbolic</a>
I confess, its indeed stupid, greedy and often wrong - still a great coding aid, and tool to transform stuff</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://machinelearning.apple.com/research/gsm-symbolic><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">GSM-Symbolic: Understanding the Limitations of Mathematical Reasoni...</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Recent advancements in Large Language Models (LLMs) have sparked interest in their formal reasoning capabilities, particularly in…</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/Home_1200x630_48225d82e9-CCD69.png> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/Home_1200x630_48225d82e9-CCD69.png alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1300169917647294475 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1300169917647294475><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, October 27, 2024 7:51 PM">7:51 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://www.wired.com/story/apple-ai-llm-reasoning-research/">https://www.wired.com/story/apple-ai-llm-reasoning-research/</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.wired.com/story/apple-ai-llm-reasoning-research/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Apple Engineers Show How Flimsy AI ‘Reasoning’ Can Be</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">The new frontier in large language models is the ability to “reason” their way through problems. New research from Apple says it&#39;s not quite what it&#39;s cracked up to be.</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/apple-llm-fail-biz-92194.jpg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/apple-llm-fail-biz-92194.jpg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1301147555677212713 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1301147555677212713><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, October 30, 2024 12:35 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1301147555677212713>10/30/2024 12:35 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>More AI stuff, 25% of Google&#39;s code base built by agents; cant find it back but one of the pioneers pulling out due the fact that humanity will ultimately hand over their last leverage : intelligence (after labor) - guess who will own that machines again ?
<a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@nate.b.jones/video/7431373540282092831">https://www.tiktok.com/@nate.b.jones/video/7431373540282092831</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><video class=chatlog__embed-generic-video width=576 height=1024 controls><source src=media-ose/7431373540282092831-7C37E alt="Embedded video"></video></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1301147712594513931 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1301147712594513931><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, October 30, 2024 12:36 PM">12:36 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>25% of Google is 50000 programers</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1301148003750383627 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1301148003750383627><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, October 30, 2024 12:37 PM">12:37 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>dont know how they actually do that, OpenAI &amp; Perplexity still far from composing a good design for a custom build library/system ... offering outdated &amp; crappy libs</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1301185213547675770 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1301185213547675770><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, October 30, 2024 3:05 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1301185213547675770>10/30/2024 3:05 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>thats it, I quit, internet of shit meets DIY/OSHW, undermining love for cats : <a href="https://www.instagram.com/reel/DBsiIIKC7pF/?igsh=MWc4d2VhcXkxNXk5OQ%3D%3D">https://www.instagram.com/reel/DBsiIIKC7pF/?igsh=MWc4d2VhcXkxNXk5OQ%3D%3D</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(206,0,114,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><img class=chatlog__embed-author-icon src=media-ose/352849733_276669518077165_1246209647244937-BCB09.jpg alt="Author icon" loading=lazy onerror="this.style.visibility='hidden'"> <a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.instagram.com/manutechlab><div class=chatlog__embed-author>manutechlab</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Double nozzle action <img
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title="metal"
src="media-ose/1f918-D4EDF.svg"><img
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alt="🏼"
title="🏼"
src="media-ose/1f3fc-4884A.svg"> (download link in bio) ✨
Included in the PEDRO Download Kit are different variations of nozzles. Like this one that dispenses into two directions or another one that is nozzle and bowl <img
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title="bowl_with_spoon"
src="media-ose/1f963-A96D9.svg"> at the same time <img
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title="zap"
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I will show all different versions in greater detail in the next Youtube video that is coming soon <img
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CAD files of...</div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-fields><div class="chatlog__embed-field chatlog__embed-field--inline"><div class=chatlog__embed-field-name><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Likes</div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-field-value><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">403</div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="chatlog__embed-images chatlog__embed-images--single"><div class=chatlog__embed-image-container><a class=chatlog__embed-image-link href=media-ose/464488544_556470740402199_8294092830542065-8E3FF.jpg> <img class=chatlog__embed-image src=media-ose/464488544_556470740402199_8294092830542065-8E3FF.jpg alt=Image loading=lazy> </a></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-footer><img class=chatlog__embed-footer-icon src=media-ose/68d99ba29cc8-B525E.png alt="Footer icon" loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__embed-footer-text> Instagram </span></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1301185486819430410 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1301185486819430410><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, October 30, 2024 3:06 PM">3:06 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>#eletricalcatfeedingforbidden</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Wednesday, October 30, 2024 3:06 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1301189240603803741 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1301189240603803741><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, October 30, 2024 3:21 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1301189240603803741>10/30/2024 3:21 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>as alternative, mouse on wheels:<a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@thedodo/video/7415717997312019755?_t=8qygNFZIYCm&amp;_r=1">https://www.tiktok.com/@thedodo/video/7415717997312019755?_t=8qygNFZIYCm&amp;_r=1</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><video class=chatlog__embed-generic-video width=576 height=1024 controls><source src=media-ose/7415717997312019755-8B00F alt="Embedded video"></video></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1302223213257818153 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1302223213257818153><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, November 2, 2024 11:50 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1302223213257818153>11/2/2024 11:50 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>more fun with ChatGPT in voice mode (desktop app)
<ul><li>what do you know about me : indeed, it remembers my text chats, just not the lost banana in the voice chat from yesterday, but the french lessons from my wife</li><li>what are the most corrupt countries : somalia, .... what about the US : ah no, not really, there was something in the past ...</li></ul>
ChatGPT - Canvas : great tool, til you hit some limits, rendering all previous instructions useless. I tried to replicate the instructions via API, hopeless:
canvas output : <a href="https://git.polymech.io/osr-plastic/osr-build/src/branch/master/src/queue.ts">https://git.polymech.io/osr-plastic/osr-build/src/branch/master/src/queue.ts</a>
API output : <a href="https://git.polymech.io/osr-plastic/osr-build/src/branch/master/src/queue-ex.ts">https://git.polymech.io/osr-plastic/osr-build/src/branch/master/src/queue-ex.ts</a> (instructions : <a href="https://git.polymech.io/osr-plastic/osr-build/src/branch/master/src/queue.osrl)">https://git.polymech.io/osr-plastic/osr-build/src/branch/master/src/queue.osrl)</a></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1302223394846150686 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1302223394846150686><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, November 2, 2024 11:50 AM">11:50 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>all in all: massively overrated, lets try compsing smaller models ...</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1302223670038630410 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1302223670038630410><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, November 2, 2024 11:51 AM">11:51 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>btw. thank you for the evidence, that&#39;s how corruption in OSHW looks like</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-8D265.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-8D265.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (747.82 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1302224075153866783 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1302224075153866783><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, November 2, 2024 11:53 AM">11:53 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>incredible - the must be really desperate | an exclusive system, for the privileged, taxing and bullying everyone else - baited with OS</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1302224251570360373 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1302224251570360373><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, November 2, 2024 11:54 AM">11:54 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>and yet, not one single good design or tool coming out in 8 years - respect</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1303323036115669054 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1303323036115669054><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, November 5, 2024 12:40 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1303323036115669054>11/5/2024 12:40 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Catches of the week :
<ul><li>after MAGA <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@melodystanfordmartin/video/7433439208322174250">https://www.tiktok.com/@melodystanfordmartin/video/7433439208322174250</a></li><li>cult mechanics in politics, <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@melodystanfordmartin/video/7433071995991969067">https://www.tiktok.com/@melodystanfordmartin/video/7433071995991969067</a></li><li>data commons : <a href="https://docs.datacommons.org/bigquery/query_places.html">https://docs.datacommons.org/bigquery/query_places.html</a> , currently I am stuck finding an url friendly query language, GraphQL not a good option ...</li><li>next in line, chunking content, using semantic distance, great to harvest tiktok videos for news and trends : <a href="https://abilian.com/en/news/calculating-the-semantic-distance-between-two-documents-using-a-hierarchical-thesaurus/">https://abilian.com/en/news/calculating-the-semantic-distance-between-two-documents-using-a-hierarchical-thesaurus/</a> (video : <a href="https://git.polymech.io/osr-plastic/osr-media/src/branch/master/src/lib/media/video)">https://git.polymech.io/osr-plastic/osr-media/src/branch/master/src/lib/media/video)</a></li></ul></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><video class=chatlog__embed-generic-video width=576 height=1024 controls><source src=media-ose/7433439208322174250-7C1C7 alt="Embedded video"></video></div><div class=chatlog__embed><video class=chatlog__embed-generic-video width=576 height=1024 controls><source src=media-ose/7433071995991969067-E8566 alt="Embedded video"></video></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://abilian.com/en/news/calculating-the-semantic-distance-between-two-documents-using-a-hierarchical-thesaurus/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Calculating the semantic distance between two documents using a hie...</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">The semantic distance between two documents aims to measure their dissimilarity in terms of meaning or semantic content, and has applications in the field of knowledge engineering (recommendations, clustering, etc.). We describe the main methods, and in particular the Wu-Palmer measure (and its derivatives), and discuss their implementation.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1303323477243072565 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1303323477243072565><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, November 5, 2024 12:42 PM">12:42 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>visual arts, explaining space &amp; time : <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@maxcoopermax/video/7398500935661604129">https://www.tiktok.com/@maxcoopermax/video/7398500935661604129</a> - neat, lets stuff more 3Ds, into 4Ds <img
loading="lazy"
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alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><video class=chatlog__embed-generic-video width=576 height=1024 controls><source src=media-ose/7398500935661604129-B68F5 alt="Embedded video"></video></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1303769423462662154 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1303769423462662154><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, November 6, 2024 6:14 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1303769423462662154>11/6/2024 6:14 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>the floor is moving for &#39;Junior Coders&#39; : <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@mortalmore/video/7432856432753610015">https://www.tiktok.com/@mortalmore/video/7432856432753610015</a>, here again another article about <a href="https://matt.sh/panic-at-the-job-market">https://matt.sh/panic-at-the-job-market</a>
#thetecheliteonstrike <img
loading="lazy"
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alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><video class=chatlog__embed-generic-video width=576 height=1024 controls><source src=media-ose/7432856432753610015-50AE2 alt="Embedded video"></video></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1303850344303951953 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1303850344303951953><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, November 6, 2024 11:35 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1303850344303951953>11/6/2024 11:35 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>viola, llama vision locally : <a href="https://ollama.com/blog/llama3.2-vision">https://ollama.com/blog/llama3.2-vision</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://ollama.com/blog/llama3.2-vision><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Llama 3.2 Vision &#183; Ollama Blog</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Llama 3.2 Vision</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/og-EDED8.png> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/og-EDED8.png alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1304113422446755850 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1304113422446755850><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=karen_fi501_13984>Guinea Pig</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1303850344303951953')"> viola, llama vision locally : <a href="https://ollama.com/blog/llama3.2-vision">https://ollama.com/blog/llama3.2-vision</a> </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, November 7, 2024 5:01 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1304113422446755850>11/7/2024 5:01 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>yammi, ignoring benchmarks and other problems (power hungry GPUs), I understand that selfhosted vision models help with
<ul><li>splitting videos into sections, more expensive than traditional image diffing</li><li>after we have for all sections some text and descriptions, we can complete / enhance the content</li></ul>
practical applications : IG/TikTok, ... vids as articles, and dubbing, for the blind</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1304113430659072020 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1304113430659072020><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, November 7, 2024 5:01 PM">5:01 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://huggingface.co/docs/transformers/en/model_doc/vit">https://huggingface.co/docs/transformers/en/model_doc/vit</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://huggingface.co/docs/transformers/en/model_doc/vit><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Vision Transformer (ViT)</div></a></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/transformers-DBAE6.png> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/transformers-DBAE6.png alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1304113735564005406 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1304113735564005406><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, November 7, 2024 5:02 PM">5:02 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://github.com/huggingface/notebooks/blob/main/examples/image_classification.ipynb">https://github.com/huggingface/notebooks/blob/main/examples/image_classification.ipynb</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(30,35,39,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://github.com/huggingface/notebooks/blob/main/examples/image_classification.ipynb><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">notebooks/examples/image_classification.ipynb at main &#183; huggingface...</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Notebooks using the Hugging Face libraries <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🤗"
title="hugging"
src="media-ose/1f917-D9BB8.svg">. Contribute to huggingface/notebooks development by creating an account on GitHub.</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/notebooks-13806> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/notebooks-13806 alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1304114181347217479 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1304114181347217479><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, November 7, 2024 5:04 PM">5:04 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>eg, <code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--multiline nohighlight">ose-media convert --src=&#39;./tests/marcins_bodycam/*.+(mp4)&#39; --dst=&#39;./tests/ose/wiki/CEB/${SRC_NAME}.+(md,json)</code></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1304114352621883462 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1304114352621883462><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, November 7, 2024 5:04 PM">5:04 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>something else I missed ? targeting APIs is in the pipe as well <img
loading="lazy"
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alt="🥰"
title="smiling_face_with_3_hearts"
src="media-ose/1f970-85DC7.svg"></span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1304132553233666091 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1304132553233666091><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, November 7, 2024 6:17 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1304132553233666091>11/7/2024 6:17 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>whilst at it, tech madness &amp; impaired people, great movie : <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5363618/">https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5363618/</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5363618/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Sound of Metal (2019) ⭐ 7.7 | Drama, Music</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">2h | R</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/MV5BMWE5ZmYwNDEtYTYwMS00MTc0LTk2ZWItZTM1Mj-93F70.jpg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/MV5BMWE5ZmYwNDEtYTYwMS00MTc0LTk2ZWItZTM1Mj-93F70.jpg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1304859076538138654 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1304859076538138654><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=karen_fi501_13984>Guinea Pig</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1304114181347217479')"> eg, <code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--multiline nohighlight">ose-media convert --src=&#39;./tests/marcins_bodycam/*.+(mp4)&#39; --dst=&#39;./tests/ose/wiki/CEB/${SRC_NAME}.+(md,json)</code> </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, November 9, 2024 6:24 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1304859076538138654>11/9/2024 6:24 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>more ideas and refinements came up
<code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--multiline nohighlight">ose-media convert --src=&#39;./tests/marcins_bodycam/*.+(mp4)&#39; --targetLanguage=de,es,swahili --dst=&#39;./tests/ose/wiki/CEB/${SRC_NAME}.+(md,json,jpg,mp3,pdf) --providers=osr,theflipflopi --voice=&#39;small, blond, big feet, iron fist, french accent&#39; </code></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1304859209946501121 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1304859209946501121><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, November 9, 2024 6:24 PM">6:24 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>to make it more complicated, lets add video transformers, interpolators,... <a href="https://replicate.com/home">https://replicate.com/home</a></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1304859308462440558 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1304859308462440558><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, November 9, 2024 6:25 PM">6:25 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>and here your one click deployment : <a href="https://www.val.town/trending">https://www.val.town/trending</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.val.town/trending><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Trending</div></a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1304859557834526851 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1304859557834526851><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, November 9, 2024 6:26 PM">6:26 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>good news : translations, data quality still suck a lot, lets add &#39;HAAS&#39;. humans as a service <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1304859953445470369 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1304859953445470369><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, November 9, 2024 6:27 PM">6:27 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>and another idea, fine tuned models to recompose existing APIs : <a href="https://rapidapi.com/hub">https://rapidapi.com/hub</a> - plenty on the table <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="💃"
title="dancer"
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1305149594295861259 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1305149594295861259><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, November 10, 2024 1:38 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1305149594295861259>11/10/2024 1:38 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>dear diary, time to switch, to Rust, static type checking, compile time errors, no garbage collectors, sounds tasty, isnt ? Lets grab a boilerplate and ping OpenAi ... yammi, another &#39;download the internet&#39; language ?</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-1123A.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-1123A.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (226.81 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1305149940330397738 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1305149940330397738><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, November 10, 2024 1:39 PM">1:39 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>other remarks about Rust community : &#39;being in their own f*** way&#39;, sounds familiar - back to square one, Typescript</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1305219670252585000 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1305219670252585000><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/9d2b9b0319df5d3ba690697d5ddcfab7-529EE.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=karen_fi501_13984 data-user-id=1276635018881663040>Guinea Pig</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, November 10, 2024 6:16 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1305219670252585000>11/10/2024 6:16 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>nice, rent your puppet : <a href="https://www.tavus.io/post/advanced-techniques-in-talking-head-generation-3d-gaussian-splatting">https://www.tavus.io/post/advanced-techniques-in-talking-head-generation-3d-gaussian-splatting</a> - cutting edge noise generator, soon there&#39;s nothing left to be trusted with</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.tavus.io/post/advanced-techniques-in-talking-head-generation-3d-gaussian-splatting><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Phoenix-2: Advanced Techniques in Talking Head Generation — 3D Gaus...</div></a></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/66bae0d9938661e310f57205_Phoenix-1-AE734.jpg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/66bae0d9938661e310f57205_Phoenix-1-AE734.jpg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1308904957633761361 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1308904957633761361><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, November 20, 2024 10:21 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1308904957633761361>11/20/2024 10:21 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>yammi yammi, getting there <a href="https://lex.page/">https://lex.page/</a> | <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@nate.b.jones/video/7439382630920981791">https://www.tiktok.com/@nate.b.jones/video/7439382630920981791</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><video class=chatlog__embed-generic-video width=1080 height=1920 controls><source src=media-ose/7439382630920981791-C8806 alt="Embedded video"></video></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1308905187708239934 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1308905187708239934><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, November 20, 2024 10:21 PM">10:21 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>voice 2 text missing, video to text, graphs (collaborative edits), ...</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1308905524086964225 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1308905524086964225><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, November 20, 2024 10:23 PM">10:23 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>feel free to add <a href="https://lex.page/d/1beb46a1-be9c-4fb7-82c6-8bf17e273c7f">https://lex.page/d/1beb46a1-be9c-4fb7-82c6-8bf17e273c7f</a> <img
loading="lazy"
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alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1309240714424750162 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1309240714424750162><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, November 21, 2024 8:35 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1309240714424750162>11/21/2024 8:35 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>&quot;lex.page&quot;, as you can see, no sources, contribs - there&#39;s currently just <a href="https://typst.app/docs/reference/">https://typst.app/docs/reference/</a> taking authoring to the next level, a bit too high but great language / replacement for Latex an the like (soon absolete anyway <img
loading="lazy"
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alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(35,157,173,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://typst.app/docs/reference/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Reference – Typst Documentation</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">The Typst reference is a systematic and comprehensive guide to the Typst
typesetting language.</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/social-C4DD4.png> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/social-C4DD4.png alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1309241370573148201 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1309241370573148201><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, November 21, 2024 8:37 PM">8:37 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>lets hope they remove screen work entirely; social media, discord became embarassing enough <img
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alt="🙂"
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1309241371563003945 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1309241371563003945><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/def5e0a7ff07e73d477a87df10a3dc4f-BFBB1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(153,45,34) title=Arcane#7800 data-user-id=437808476106784770>Arcane</span> <span class=chatlog__author-tag>BOT</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, November 21, 2024 8:37 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1309241371563003945>11/21/2024 8:37 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="fabianochristian42173_03541">@PP Mafia Lamu</span> has reached level <strong>1</strong>. GG!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1309277458796642344 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1309277458796642344><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, November 21, 2024 11:01 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1309277458796642344>11/21/2024 11:01 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>nice, PP Mafia Style, 7+ useless moderators/machine builders, poor schmugs running into their misery every day - &quot;we dont provide this kind of service, buy a starterkit through the backdoor&quot; - I love the atmosphere - authority, lurkers, ... day by the day, African NGO money for the elite, taxes for everyone else - lovely</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Thursday, November 21, 2024 11:06 PM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-2D1E5.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-2D1E5.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (234.34 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1309277651730694255 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1309277651730694255><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, November 21, 2024 11:01 PM">11:01 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>great example, a company running an OS Project - start a business, ...</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Thursday, November 21, 2024 11:02 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1309382183974211626 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1309382183974211626><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=fabianochristian42173_03541>PP Mafia Lamu</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1309277458796642344')"> nice, PP Mafia Style, 7+ useless moderators/machine builders, poor schmugs running into their misery every day - &quot;we dont provide this kind of service, buy a starterkit through the backdoor&quot; - I love the atmosphere - authority, lurkers, ... day by the day, African NGO money for the elite, taxes for everyone else - lovely </span> <span class=chatlog__reply-edited-timestamp title="Thursday, November 21, 2024 11:06 PM">(edited)</span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=303adastra data-user-id=457390086879969280>303adastra</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, November 22, 2024 5:57 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1309382183974211626>11/22/2024 5:57 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Sounds like some real jerks... You should fork all their good source code and just make a better organization; call it Open Source Recycling <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="😉"
title="wink"
src="media-ose/1f609-9EC67.svg"></span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1309425913922060319 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1309425913922060319><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, November 22, 2024 8:51 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1309425913922060319>11/22/2024 8:51 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>well, I think we tried all that; for some reason &#39;Opensource&#39; just doesnt want take off, attracts the wrong people or contributors get under the bus, ...
was wondering where and how to create the perfect answer ( adaptive, dynamic ) to &#39;If i wanted to make 2000 coasters, what technology would you recommend and how long would it take?&#39; instead</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1309426423970402317 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1309426423970402317><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, November 22, 2024 8:53 AM">8:53 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>in the case of PP Discord for instance, I am just to scared to post a good answer <img
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alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1309436224305365042 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1309436224305365042><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=303adastra>303adastra</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1309382183974211626')"> Sounds like some real jerks... You should fork all their good source code and just make a better organization; call it Open Source Recycling <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="😉"
title="wink"
src="media-ose/1f609-9EC67.svg"> </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, November 22, 2024 9:32 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1309436224305365042>11/22/2024 9:32 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>i am ofc eager to hear your thoughts, eg: &quot;the blueprint of an OS organization&quot;, much to catch up though, Mozilla Foundation at the merci of Apple &amp; Google, OSE, PP, OSR .. ending up always the same <img
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alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1309559951349518348 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1309559951349518348><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=fabianochristian42173_03541>PP Mafia Lamu</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1309436224305365042')"> i am ofc eager to hear your thoughts, eg: &quot;the blueprint of an OS organization&quot;, much to catch up though, Mozilla Foundation at the merci of Apple &amp; Google, OSE, PP, OSR .. ending up always the same <img
loading="lazy"
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alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=303adastra data-user-id=457390086879969280>303adastra</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, November 22, 2024 5:43 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1309559951349518348>11/22/2024 5:43 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Duane O Brien gave a keynote at SeaGL on open source sustainability. The boring answer comes down to &quot;people&quot; <a href="https://www.youtube.com/live/uI7gJ8WtQ-I">https://www.youtube.com/live/uI7gJ8WtQ-I</a> @33:57</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/@SeaglOrg><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Seattle GNU+Linux Conference</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.youtube.com/live/uI7gJ8WtQ-I><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">SeaGL 2024 - day 2, Lyceum</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/uI7gJ8WtQ-I width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1309573364901220403 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1309573364901220403><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=303adastra>303adastra</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1309559951349518348')"> Duane O Brien gave a keynote at SeaGL on open source sustainability. The boring answer comes down to &quot;people&quot; <a href="https://www.youtube.com/live/uI7gJ8WtQ-I">https://www.youtube.com/live/uI7gJ8WtQ-I</a> @33:57 </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, November 22, 2024 6:37 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1309573364901220403>11/22/2024 6:37 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>thank you, the audio got screwed, sounds like a bunch of software developers, talking in a can, about other software developers ... <img
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title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1309573757702111263 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1309573757702111263><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, November 22, 2024 6:38 PM">6:38 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>yeah, that sums it up well, i remember those times, getting paid for blowing up stacks, screens, ... and evtl. moving characters in a game</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-275F4.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-275F4.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (742.11 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1309575689560789002 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1309575689560789002><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, November 22, 2024 6:46 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1309575689560789002>11/22/2024 6:46 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>that are luxurity sorrows though; my day
<ul><li>checking in on the &#39;community&#39;, sending dms, preventing the next schmug getting under the cult bus</li><li>answering angry clients, eco warriors, upset about a scratch on their 5k demo machine, talking about more eco whilst having no fucking idea </li><li>10 minute researches, how to get cable glands parametrized, via OpenScad</li><li>taking the lathe on a ride, at 4000RPM, hoping for a better surface finish - well, finger cross the chips dont slice me up - </li><li>hoping the 70k CNC isnt breaking again - many others did during the last rains - I should investigate our main supplies - more equipment needed</li><li>do a triage across 20 repos, finding a way to publish 100+ designs, into all platforms possible</li><li>investigate better heating options for sheetpresses, may be gas, may be cow farts, </li><li>learn Rust - hopefully it isnt getting in the way - like their community - <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40172033">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40172033</a></li><li>more worries how to migrate all my shitty Arduino code; get the docs nicely in place, besides Hugo, same theme, translated - selfcontained, ...</li></ul></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,102,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><div class=chatlog__embed-author>darthdeus</div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40172033"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Leaving Rust gamedev after 3 years</div></a></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-footer><img class=chatlog__embed-footer-icon src=media-ose/y18-27627.gif alt="Footer icon" loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__embed-footer-text> Hacker News • 4/26/2024 7:33 PM </span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1309584980116115538 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1309584980116115538><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, November 22, 2024 7:23 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1309584980116115538>11/22/2024 7:23 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>working 9-5 on opensource, xD - as if, if they&#39;re lucky their code makes it past 5 years ... - in the meantime I still have to pay Solidworks, DassaultSystem, and a few other dozen subscriptions, thats 800 E a month, before R&amp;D &amp; innovation</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1309584981177139302 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1309584981177139302><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/def5e0a7ff07e73d477a87df10a3dc4f-BFBB1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(153,45,34) title=Arcane#7800 data-user-id=437808476106784770>Arcane</span> <span class=chatlog__author-tag>BOT</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, November 22, 2024 7:23 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1309584981177139302>11/22/2024 7:23 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="fabianochristian42173_03541">@PP Mafia Lamu</span> has reached level <strong>2</strong>. GG!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1309957539009527878 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1309957539009527878><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, November 23, 2024 8:03 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1309957539009527878>11/23/2024 8:03 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>dear diary,
another give away; 30 km wiring later, modular, sexy, re-usable, ... works everywhere, love the access, easy to fiddle or ditch control panels, WIP <a href="https://files.polymech.io/files/machines/components/shared/electronics/enclosures/vintage-vertical-edc/">https://files.polymech.io/files/machines/components/shared/electronics/enclosures/vintage-vertical-edc/</a> (hitting the limits of solidworks, eg: altering designs via equations from CLI, eg: product configurator ...)
next : share power bus, share digital circuit (CAN bus, LoRA)</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/IMG_20241123_194148-39AC3.jpg> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/IMG_20241123_194148-39AC3.jpg alt="Image attachment" title="Image: IMG_20241123_194148.jpg (2.71 MB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/IMG_20241123_194553-5BC15.jpg> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/IMG_20241123_194553-5BC15.jpg alt="Image attachment" title="Image: IMG_20241123_194553.jpg (2.84 MB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1309957754726645912 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1309957754726645912><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, November 23, 2024 8:04 PM">8:04 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>here those awful boxes from Amazon, 60e a pop, always to small, or too big <img
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alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/IMG_20241123_193832-02982.jpg> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/IMG_20241123_193832-02982.jpg alt="Image attachment" title="Image: IMG_20241123_193832.jpg (2.64 MB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1309958101251919973 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1309958101251919973><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, November 23, 2024 8:05 PM">8:05 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>here the heat and drive controller stacked together - getting there; inspired by katbot, another attempt to have roundish &#39;products&#39;</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/drive-test-C757E.jpg> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/drive-test-C757E.jpg alt="Image attachment" title="Image: drive-test.jpg (773.05 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1309958191286587523 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1309958191286587523><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, November 23, 2024 8:06 PM">8:06 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/DSC02348-3B92D.JPG> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/DSC02348-3B92D.JPG alt="Image attachment" title="Image: DSC02348.JPG (298.13 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1309958207376195634 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1309958207376195634><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, November 23, 2024 8:06 PM">8:06 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/kb-inside-B60C6.jpg> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/kb-inside-B60C6.jpg alt="Image attachment" title="Image: kb-inside.jpg (366.33 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1310318587235270666 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1310318587235270666><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, November 24, 2024 7:58 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1310318587235270666>11/24/2024 7:58 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Hackernews picks
<a href="https://blog.avas.space/tech-utopia-fantasy/">https://blog.avas.space/tech-utopia-fantasy/</a> - according to the truth movement on TikTok, folks become immune - yet, will add the ultimate bullshit filter - as app, as your personal bot, compiling all noteworthy into actionable reports <img
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src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://blog.avas.space/tech-utopia-fantasy/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">the tech utopia fantasy is over</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">i talk about how the idea of a humanity-saving tech revolution from the usual tech suspects is dead (for me).</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/avas-1709500835-0-CAC72.png> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/avas-1709500835-0-CAC72.png alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1310318738473488406 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1310318738473488406><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, November 24, 2024 7:58 PM">7:58 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>back to 1999, developing games with 1/10000s of hardware power, a legend : <a href="https://fabiensanglard.net/quake3/network.php">https://fabiensanglard.net/quake3/network.php</a></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1310318771008831589 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1310318771008831589><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, November 24, 2024 7:58 PM">7:58 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>mind the &#39;ai&#39; review</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1310377790864101476 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1310377790864101476><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, November 24, 2024 11:53 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1310377790864101476>11/24/2024 11:53 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://www.afterbabel.com/p/the-edtech-revolution-has-failed">https://www.afterbabel.com/p/the-edtech-revolution-has-failed</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-B267B.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-B267B.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (78.55 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,255,255,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.afterbabel.com/p/the-edtech-revolution-has-failed><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">The EdTech Revolution Has Failed</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">The Case Against Student Use of Computers, Tablets, and Smartphones in the Classroom</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/https%253A%252F%252Fsubstack-post-media.s3-B5421.jpeg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/https%253A%252F%252Fsubstack-post-media.s3-B5421.jpeg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1310378039967748149 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1310378039967748149><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, November 24, 2024 11:54 PM">11:54 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Education, just another scam ? Mentors, Yoga teachers, courses at every corner these days, they all accept VISA <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1310378225209442436 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1310378225209442436><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/def5e0a7ff07e73d477a87df10a3dc4f-BFBB1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(153,45,34) title=Arcane#7800 data-user-id=437808476106784770>Arcane</span> <span class=chatlog__author-tag>BOT</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, November 24, 2024 11:55 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1310378225209442436>11/24/2024 11:55 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="fabianochristian42173_03541">@PP Mafia Lamu</span> has reached level <strong>3</strong>. GG!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1310520519254216725 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1310520519254216725><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, November 25, 2024 9:20 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1310520519254216725>11/25/2024 9:20 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Crack Open the pumpink they say, its that easy <a href="https://www.instructables.com/Cheap-and-Easy-Broken-Head-Worker-Decoration/">https://www.instructables.com/Cheap-and-Easy-Broken-Head-Worker-Decoration/</a>
Maker movement, that deserves another bot, classifier, ... before &amp; after the vaccine</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-5FC94.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-5FC94.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (1.74 MB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.instructables.com/Cheap-and-Easy-Broken-Head-Worker-Decoration/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Cheap and Easy Broken Head Worker Decoration</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Cheap and Easy Broken Head Worker Decoration: This a fun and easy project to make. Anyone can build it and it only requires recycled materials.</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/F153S60M3BLVNK2-1EA2C.jpg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/F153S60M3BLVNK2-1EA2C.jpg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1310671419515994123 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1310671419515994123><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, November 25, 2024 7:20 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1310671419515994123>11/25/2024 7:20 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>prompt <code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--multiline nohighlight">do you think that staging an accident, being supposedly funny could perpetuate manufactured consent, accepting violence ? </code></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1310671590270304297 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1310671590270304297><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, November 25, 2024 7:20 PM">7:20 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Your question raises an important ethical consideration: whether humorous depictions of accidents or violence might desensitize individuals or normalize certain behaviors, potentially fostering a subtle form of &quot;manufactured consent.&quot; Let&#39;s break this down:
<h3><strong>What is Manufactured Consent?</strong></h3>Manufactured consent, as theorized by Noam Chomsky and Edward Herman, refers to the subtle ways media or cultural content shapes public opinion to align with particular interests or ideas, often without overt coercion. It typically applies to political or economic manipulation but can be extended to cultural acceptance of norms, including violence.</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1310671651980972053 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1310671651980972053><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, November 25, 2024 7:21 PM">7:21 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><h3><strong>Does Staged &quot;Funny Violence&quot; Normalize Real Violence?</strong></h3>1. <strong>Humor as a Desensitization Tool</strong>:
<ul><li>Repeated exposure to staged violence (even humorous) could, over time, desensitize people to actual harm. This is akin to how violent video games or movies are sometimes argued to reduce sensitivity to real-world violence.</li></ul><ul><li>For example, laughing at a staged accident might subtly reinforce the idea that such events are not serious, which could reduce empathy toward real victims of accidents or violence.</li></ul>
2. <strong>Framing Matters</strong>:
<ul><li>In the context of humor, the framing is crucial. If the violence is clearly fictional or exaggerated (e.g., a pumpkin breaking instead of a person&#39;s injury), the audience might interpret it as slapstick humor rather than a reflection of real-world violence.</li></ul><ul><li>However, if the humor trivializes the consequences of accidents, it might contribute to societal attitudes that dismiss or overlook the gravity of such situations.</li></ul>
3. <strong>Cultural Conditioning</strong>:
<ul><li>In some cultures, humor that incorporates violence or accidents (like slapstick comedy) has a long history. While such humor isn&#39;t inherently harmful, it can inadvertently foster societal acceptance of aggression if presented without critical reflection.</li></ul><ul><li>The &quot;Tom and Jerry&quot; effect: Classic cartoons depict exaggerated violence (e.g., characters being hit with hammers). While audiences know it&#39;s fictional, it conditions them to see violence as &quot;funny&quot; or inconsequential.</li></ul>
---</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1310671687855112273 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1310671687855112273><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, November 25, 2024 7:21 PM">7:21 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><h3><strong>Balancing Humor and Awareness</strong></h3>While staging a &quot;funny accident&quot; is unlikely to directly perpetuate societal violence, it could contribute to a subtle cultural shift in how violence is perceived—especially if consumed uncritically. To prevent this:
<ul><li><strong>Creators</strong> should be mindful of the messages embedded in their humor.</li><li><strong>Audiences</strong> should approach such humor with awareness, understanding its context and intent.</li><li><strong>Media and educators</strong> should foster critical thinking, helping individuals differentiate between fictional humor and real-world implications.
Does this perspective align with your concerns, or would you like me to explore other angles?</li></ul></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1310672160947441805 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1310672160947441805><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, November 25, 2024 7:23 PM">7:23 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>a pity, cant share the session here, highlighting the differences between wester and eastern culture ...</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1310672439021273151 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1310672439021273151><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, November 25, 2024 7:24 PM">7:24 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>anyway, have been always wondering about americans opinion about their leaders, triggering and profiteering from so many wars around the globe</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1310673399328280687 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1310673399328280687><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, November 25, 2024 7:28 PM">7:28 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>sorry for the long text <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1311461845265023126 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1311461845265023126><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, November 27, 2024 11:41 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1311461845265023126>11/27/2024 11:41 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Aron Swatz style OS p2p search engine : <a href="https://yacy.net/">https://yacy.net/</a> -</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://yacy.net/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Home - YaCy</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">YaCy P2P - Decentralized Search Engine</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1312049059422535720 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1312049059422535720><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, November 29, 2024 2:34 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1312049059422535720>11/29/2024 2:34 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>neat, finally, 1-2 hours research rat work eliminated, www.distll.ai (quick&#39;n dirty app, impressive) - another reason to have a neutral, dezentral, blabla search engine
Topic: plastic pollution
Here are three main updates on the latest news in plastic pollution, along with supporting details for each:
U.S. EPA&#39;s New Strategy and Proposed Chemical Bans
Update: The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has proposed designating vinyl chloride and four other chemicals used in plastic production as &quot;High-Priority Substances&quot; under the Toxic Substances Control Act (TSCA), which could lead to their ban[1].
Supporting Details: This move aims to reduce the environmental and health impacts of these chemicals, which are commonly used in plastics but have been linked to various health issues[1].
Additional Context: The EPA&#39;s strategy also includes a comprehensive plan to address plastic pollution, although critical gaps remain in its implementation[1].
Global Plastics Treaty Negotiations</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1312049076916719616 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1312049076916719616><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, November 29, 2024 2:34 PM">2:34 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Update: Negotiations for the UN Global Plastics Treaty are underway, with countries discussing measures to reduce plastic production and limit corporate influence[1][2].
Supporting Details: Panama has proposed text that includes a potential limit on the amount of plastic companies can produce, which is a contentious issue in the talks[2].
Additional Context: The treaty aims to address the global issue of plastic pollution, which impacts the environment, wildlife, climate, human health, and social justice[1].
Corporate Accountability and Public Awareness
Update: The Plastic Pollution Coalition has filed a false advertising lawsuit against Danone Waters of America for marketing evian bottled water as &quot;natural&quot; and &quot;sustainable,&quot; despite contributing to plastic pollution and containing microplastics[1].
Supporting Details: This lawsuit highlights the need for greater transparency and accountability from companies regarding their environmental impact[1].
Additional Context: Public awareness campaigns, such as the Plastic-Free Holiday Guide, are also underway to educate consumers about sustainable choices during the holiday season[1].</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1312049260530897009 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1312049260530897009><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, November 29, 2024 2:35 PM">2:35 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>next: personal social media noise agent <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1312081879473721344 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1312081879473721344><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, November 29, 2024 4:44 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1312081879473721344>11/29/2024 4:44 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>and after ? good you&#39;re asking <img
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src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> yes, Yahoo News Pipes come to mind; community curated filters, .... anywhere, on OS level, folks might add shared annotations, chains of filters, eg: &quot;clarify, detoxify, laserfy, bullshittify, debunkify &quot; - the government first, as part of another unwanted Windows update - no SDK, APIs and even OS needed anymore either <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1312112580071784520 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1312112580071784520><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, November 29, 2024 6:46 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1312112580071784520>11/29/2024 6:46 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>news picks : startups that &#39;collapsed&#39; - not suprised investor trust in decline since 3 years (see crunchbase) :<a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@digitaldigest/photo/7441984054964096288">https://www.tiktok.com/@digitaldigest/photo/7441984054964096288</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.tiktok.com/@digitaldigest/photo/7441984054964096288?enable_tiktok_webview=true"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">TikTok &#183; Daily Tech <img
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src="media-ose/1f4bb-21DBA.svg"></div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">8321 likes, 493 comments. “Over $15b gone | Nov 27”</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/36ed44be53f343eebdc2c6fe4d3ebcf7~tplv-phot-FC02D.jpeg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/36ed44be53f343eebdc2c6fe4d3ebcf7~tplv-phot-FC02D.jpeg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1312112717246496829 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1312112717246496829><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, November 29, 2024 6:47 PM">6:47 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>1M dead vs 10 trillion for Blackrock (if that is still a thing) : <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@graceistruth2012/video/7442326811796655393">https://www.tiktok.com/@graceistruth2012/video/7442326811796655393</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><video class=chatlog__embed-generic-video width=1080 height=1920 controls><source src=media-ose/7442326811796655393-1E1C0 alt="Embedded video"></video></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1312112912600531065 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1312112912600531065><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, November 29, 2024 6:48 PM">6:48 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>good source for healing : <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@olesyaluraschi/video/7428333732148301099">https://www.tiktok.com/@olesyaluraschi/video/7428333732148301099</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><video class=chatlog__embed-generic-video width=1080 height=1920 controls><source src=media-ose/7428333732148301099-5B071 alt="Embedded video"></video></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1312112953784271008 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1312112953784271008><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, November 29, 2024 6:48 PM">6:48 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>in depth : <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@drrachelbarr/video/7427282922324970758">https://www.tiktok.com/@drrachelbarr/video/7427282922324970758</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><video class=chatlog__embed-generic-video width=1080 height=1920 controls><source src=media-ose/7427282922324970758-1906D alt="Embedded video"></video></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1312113201986670663 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1312113201986670663><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, November 29, 2024 6:49 PM">6:49 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>have a nice one, dont forget to dance <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@m1sterkim/video/7421857978464210184">https://www.tiktok.com/@m1sterkim/video/7421857978464210184</a> <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1313073585652371457 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1313073585652371457><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, December 2, 2024 10:25 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1313073585652371457>12/2/2024 10:25 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Thats amazing, darling <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="katharinaelleke">@katharinaelleke</span> - after wasting 300k, tricking so many folks into their scam, bullying folks, taxes, pay or else, targeting the youth, and stupid, ...v4 Gang still ruling, squatting &quot;opensource plastic recycling&quot; - 2 machine builders, no actual contribs, one junk design after the next,
are you still working as &#39;teacher &amp; designer&#39;, for RealPreciousPlastic Mafia ?</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Monday, December 2, 2024 10:29 AM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-7514E.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-7514E.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (678.45 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1313074037173518397 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1313074037173518397><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, December 2, 2024 10:27 AM">10:27 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>btw. whats up with the bazar ? &#39;on fire&#39; as Mattia said ? ... #jobs, #showcase, ... all gone baby <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1313080951940579328 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1313080951940579328><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, December 2, 2024 10:54 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1313080951940579328>12/2/2024 10:54 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>the white saviors, 9k mildsteel sh* extruder, ... ; spread the word <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1313185050568953969 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1313185050568953969><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, December 2, 2024 5:48 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1313185050568953969>12/2/2024 5:48 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>alrighty, lets pump maker content, into OSE Discord, can you imagine
Lathe rebuild, not giving a f*** style :<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGVa0gTO7Wc&amp;ab_channel=ActionBOX">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGVa0gTO7Wc&amp;ab_channel=ActionBOX</a> - economy (not reflected by stock market) in free fall, repair and essential service businesses on the rise as far I heard here in the industrial area (spain, Europe&#39;s new China ?)</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHrFvnP1EEEZHNam_Nk_5rQ><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Action BOX</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGVa0gTO7Wc"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Building a CNC Lathe (Full Video)</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/GGVa0gTO7Wc width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1313185283650490418 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1313185283650490418><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, December 2, 2024 5:49 PM">5:49 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>famous brands, from 80s+, with SY axis currently still at 60k +</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1313400614532939776 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1313400614532939776><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, December 3, 2024 8:05 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1313400614532939776>12/3/2024 8:05 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>As g&#39;old Georgy nailed it, &quot;<strong>they</strong> cant wait that we show up&quot;; to me, another good axis for policy making, &quot;us&quot;, &quot;it&quot; (nature), and them <img
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<a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@thecoffeejesus/video/7442733631891836206">https://www.tiktok.com/@thecoffeejesus/video/7442733631891836206</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><video class=chatlog__embed-generic-video width=1080 height=1920 controls><source src=media-ose/7442733631891836206-38CED alt="Embedded video"></video></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1313400918909124629 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1313400918909124629><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, December 3, 2024 8:06 AM">8:06 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>poor state though, the US currently 700 bases, ruining one nation after the next, as a business model</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1313766255299268659 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1313766255299268659><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, December 4, 2024 8:18 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1313766255299268659>12/4/2024 8:18 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>well well, treaty sabotaged by big firms again : <a href="https://healthpolicy-watch.news/global-plastics-treaty-talks-derailed-as-fossil-fuel-nations-block-production-limits/">https://healthpolicy-watch.news/global-plastics-treaty-talks-derailed-as-fossil-fuel-nations-block-production-limits/</a> - &#39;acceptence, the path to happyness&#39; they say <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1314191673995165757 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1314191673995165757><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, December 5, 2024 12:28 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1314191673995165757>12/5/2024 12:28 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Awesome, getting there - ai reasoning, debunked <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@nate.b.jones/video/7443993265256369438">https://www.tiktok.com/@nate.b.jones/video/7443993265256369438</a>
&quot;we dont have benchmarks to measure AI&quot; - rings a bell <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1314311949302894602 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1314311949302894602><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, December 5, 2024 8:26 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1314311949302894602>12/5/2024 8:26 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>finally, the most violent, corrupt &amp; criminal organization in OS history going broke : <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gTd36cQLzY&amp;ab_channel=OneArmy">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gTd36cQLzY&amp;ab_channel=OneArmy</a> - if you treat your investors, contributors as yourself; ... and please spare us with &#39;community&#39;, and all the great things you&#39;ve done - I hope you rotten jail</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Thursday, December 5, 2024 11:45 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1314312208037183599 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1314312208037183599><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, December 5, 2024 8:27 PM">8:27 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>and yes, the next report will give you the last push !</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1314936528509861940 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1314936528509861940><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, December 7, 2024 1:48 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1314936528509861940>12/7/2024 1:48 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>o man, USA killing it again, what else : <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@pissedmagistus/video/7445408567844212000">https://www.tiktok.com/@pissedmagistus/video/7445408567844212000</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><video class=chatlog__embed-generic-video width=1080 height=1920 controls><source src=media-ose/7445408567844212000-D7F9A alt="Embedded video"></video></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1314936651402838118 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1314936651402838118><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, December 7, 2024 1:48 PM">1:48 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>if you need a proxy ... would be a shame to miss out again <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@thejoed69/video/7442174632913816878">https://www.tiktok.com/@thejoed69/video/7442174632913816878</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><video class=chatlog__embed-generic-video width=1080 height=1920 controls><source src=media-ose/7442174632913816878-01017 alt="Embedded video"></video></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1315247067920203826 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1315247067920203826><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=fabianochristian42173_03541>PP Mafia Lamu</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1314936651402838118')"> if you need a proxy ... would be a shame to miss out again <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@thejoed69/video/7442174632913816878">https://www.tiktok.com/@thejoed69/video/7442174632913816878</a> </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, December 8, 2024 10:22 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1315247067920203826>12/8/2024 10:22 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>&#39;open boat projects&#39; <img
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cant wait that someone builds the first bots to turn forum posts, discord servers, ... into articles <a href="https://www.boatdesign.net/threads/open-source-13-15m-catamaran-plans.59670/">https://www.boatdesign.net/threads/open-source-13-15m-catamaran-plans.59670/</a></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1315247208660078652 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1315247208660078652><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, December 8, 2024 10:22 AM">10:22 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>catamaran prices go from 300k +</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1315249103520927817 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1315249103520927817><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, December 8, 2024 10:30 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1315249103520927817>12/8/2024 10:30 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>what you think darling, catamaran from plastic ? <a href="https://www.graingerdesigns.net/running-down-the-dream/">https://www.graingerdesigns.net/running-down-the-dream/</a>. MIT screwed recently our Lydia, mixing PET with HDPE <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1315268759430365245 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1315268759430365245><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, December 8, 2024 11:48 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1315268759430365245>12/8/2024 11:48 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>piece of cake, no ?</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-AB55F.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-AB55F.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (1.22 MB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1315443147148627971 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1315443147148627971><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, December 8, 2024 11:21 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1315443147148627971>12/8/2024 11:21 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Lovely, &quot;OneArmy&quot;, one lie after the next - &quot;whatever gets them&quot; - how about you Dave, why not starting a business, from trash, with trash machines ? another question, censored away <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1315443148889264188 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1315443148889264188><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/def5e0a7ff07e73d477a87df10a3dc4f-BFBB1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(153,45,34) title=Arcane#7800 data-user-id=437808476106784770>Arcane</span> <span class=chatlog__author-tag>BOT</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, December 8, 2024 11:21 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1315443148889264188>12/8/2024 11:21 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="fabianochristian42173_03541">@PP Mafia Lamu</span> has reached level <strong>7</strong>. GG!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1315443690495283302 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1315443690495283302><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, December 8, 2024 11:23 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1315443690495283302>12/8/2024 11:23 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>and no, you didnt share, not even updated links, designs, ... Jason did, Andy did, Daniel did, we did .... can handle everything, just not money ... <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1315443965214064830 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1315443965214064830><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, December 8, 2024 11:24 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1315443965214064830>12/8/2024 11:24 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>There are some really good notes about shipbuilding using flat sheet stock like plywood or sheet steel on the OSE Wiki</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1315444138564386856 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1315444138564386856><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, December 8, 2024 11:25 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1315444138564386856>12/8/2024 11:25 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>great, was wondering how to approach it, will try pictures to OpenSCAD first <img
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src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1315444408442683392 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1315444408442683392><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, December 8, 2024 11:26 PM">11:26 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>looks like carbon fiber enforced, no idea ...</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-B147A.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-B147A.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (147.13 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1315444546498461738 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1315444546498461738><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, December 8, 2024 11:26 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1315444546498461738>12/8/2024 11:26 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Open_Source_Watercraft_Construction_Set">https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Open_Source_Watercraft_Construction_Set</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Open_Source_Watercraft_Construction_Set><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Open Source Watercraft Construction Set</div></a></div></div></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=kissing_cat><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=😽 src=media-ose/1f63d-98C6C.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1315446681549934714 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1315446681549934714><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, December 8, 2024 11:35 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1315446681549934714>12/8/2024 11:35 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>nice, I see, I have to hurry up, web based VSCode workspaces, and a bunch of storage adapters, eg: mediawiki, typst, ...</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1315585495769550919 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1315585495769550919><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, December 9, 2024 8:47 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1315585495769550919>12/9/2024 8:47 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Lol, PP Mafia, allergic to reality, ... lets censor it away</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/mafia-pp-ED79B.JPG> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/mafia-pp-ED79B.JPG alt="Image attachment" title="Image: mafia-pp.JPG (57.23 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1315586163196821535 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1315586163196821535><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, December 9, 2024 8:49 AM">8:49 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>could be anything after all, pedophile network, drug trafficking, money laundering, ... just no OS, recycling, ...</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Monday, December 9, 2024 8:49 AM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1315586671475036252 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1315586671475036252><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, December 9, 2024 8:51 AM">8:51 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I guess they are young enough</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-42D7A.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-42D7A.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (1.46 MB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1315739283092537406 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1315739283092537406><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, December 9, 2024 6:58 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1315739283092537406>12/9/2024 6:58 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>28 mins, AI, violence, the self verified, labor, ... <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@watchfulcoyote/video/7443936279915547947">https://www.tiktok.com/@watchfulcoyote/video/7443936279915547947</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><video class=chatlog__embed-generic-video width=1080 height=1920 controls><source src=media-ose/7443936279915547947-C694B alt="Embedded video"></video></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1315965488224010301 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1315965488224010301><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, December 10, 2024 9:57 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1315965488224010301>12/10/2024 9:57 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><em>REVERSE VENDING MACHINE CAPSTONE PROJECT</em>,
status quo : <a href="https://forum.osr-plastic.org/t/reverse-vending-machine-capstone-project/">https://forum.osr-plastic.org/t/reverse-vending-machine-capstone-project/</a> - could be the first time the so called &quot;open source hardware recycling community&quot; and their unelected profiteers would actually engage / contribute to something <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1315965717606039613 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1315965717606039613><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, December 10, 2024 9:57 AM">9:57 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>incredible. millions disappearing every year in the pockets of imposters, scammers, NGOs ...</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1316301993307930664 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1316301993307930664><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, December 11, 2024 8:14 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1316301993307930664>12/11/2024 8:14 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>what a mess, still no trustworthy place for makers, DIY&#39;ers, getting slaughtered everywhere, .... anyone ?
<a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@duarte_biz_gouveia/video/7446514792195460358">https://www.tiktok.com/@duarte_biz_gouveia/video/7446514792195460358</a>
<a href="https://community.preciousplastic.com/questions/bazar-accounts-getting-deleted">https://community.preciousplastic.com/questions/bazar-accounts-getting-deleted</a>
<a href="https://reddit.com/r/EtsySellers/comments/12edp3v/amazon_handmade_better_than_etsy/">https://reddit.com/r/EtsySellers/comments/12edp3v/amazon_handmade_better_than_etsy/</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><video class=chatlog__embed-generic-video width=540 height=960 controls><source src=media-ose/7446514792195460358-9B857 alt="Embedded video"></video></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://community.preciousplastic.com/questions/bazar-accounts-getting-deleted><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Bazar accounts getting deleted? - Question - Precious Plastic</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Howdy all!
I recently received an email about closing inactive accounts from the Precious Plastic bazar, including mine. Before re-engaging with Bazar, I would appreciate clarity on a few points:
Reports: Will the monthly performance reports from 2022 return? These were invaluable for transparency and tracking growth, as @rory said, there were...</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/uploads%252Fquestions%252FesQ22M6ZUibuetx9-10A1D.jpg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/uploads%252Fquestions%252FesQ22M6ZUibuetx9-10A1D.jpg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://reddit.com/r/EtsySellers/comments/12edp3v/amazon_handmade_better_than_etsy/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">From the EtsySellers community on Reddit</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Explore this post and more from the EtsySellers community</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/12edp3v-AAB6E> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/12edp3v-AAB6E alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1316302105333600296 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1316302105333600296><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, December 11, 2024 8:14 AM">8:14 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>options:
cscart, complete fuckery, PHP clusterfuck</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1316302177001803837 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1316302177001803837><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, December 11, 2024 8:14 AM">8:14 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Magento, same</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1316302321117822997 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1316302321117822997><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, December 11, 2024 8:15 AM">8:15 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>dont get me started on react/vercel ... <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1316302535031525428 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1316302535031525428><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, December 11, 2024 8:16 AM">8:16 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>deomcrazy, tech &amp; concept options : <a href="https://chatgpt.com/share/67593c20-063c-8001-8b0c-b55ba8627360">https://chatgpt.com/share/67593c20-063c-8001-8b0c-b55ba8627360</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://chatgpt.com/share/67593c20-063c-8001-8b0c-b55ba8627360><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">ChatGPT - Decentralized Democracy Options</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Shared via ChatGPT</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/chatgpt-share-og-u7j5uyao-A0F50.webp> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/chatgpt-share-og-u7j5uyao-A0F50.webp alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1316302654233776128 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1316302654233776128><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, December 11, 2024 8:16 AM">8:16 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>o1 - version : <a href="https://chatgpt.com/share/67593c50-77cc-8001-8649-37b36bdfb0df">https://chatgpt.com/share/67593c50-77cc-8001-8649-37b36bdfb0df</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://chatgpt.com/share/67593c50-77cc-8001-8649-37b36bdfb0df><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">ChatGPT - Decentralized Democracy Options</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Shared via ChatGPT</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/chatgpt-share-og-u7j5uyao-A0F50.webp> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/chatgpt-share-og-u7j5uyao-A0F50.webp alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1316302945716928565 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1316302945716928565><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, December 11, 2024 8:17 AM">8:17 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>in the mean-time, china, getting wet feets, rambo offers :</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-25492.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-25492.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (717.77 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1316387327492358224 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1316387327492358224><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, December 11, 2024 1:53 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1316387327492358224>12/11/2024 1:53 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>--------------------
<a href="https://community.preciousplastic.com/questions/bazar-accounts-getting-deleted">https://community.preciousplastic.com/questions/bazar-accounts-getting-deleted</a>
incredible if you think about, completely unrelated parasites, taking over power over others, talking for others, plugging shit together as it&#39;s Lego, ex PP CEO - Joseph Klatt (USA) : &quot;its like with Uber&quot;, claiming credits, ... killing thousands of hours, ....</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://community.preciousplastic.com/questions/bazar-accounts-getting-deleted><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Bazar accounts getting deleted? - Question - Precious Plastic</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Howdy all!
I recently received an email about closing inactive accounts from the Precious Plastic bazar, including mine. Before re-engaging with Bazar, I would appreciate clarity on a few points:
Reports: Will the monthly performance reports from 2022 return? These were invaluable for transparency and tracking growth, as @rory said, there were...</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/uploads%252Fquestions%252FesQ22M6ZUibuetx9-10A1D.jpg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/uploads%252Fquestions%252FesQ22M6ZUibuetx9-10A1D.jpg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1316387551644352584 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1316387551644352584><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, December 11, 2024 1:54 PM">1:54 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>til today, none of these incompetent, selfish self-centered f*** got their hands dirty on anything, no relations with the work, or the people -</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Wednesday, December 11, 2024 2:17 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1316500773428789349 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1316500773428789349><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, December 11, 2024 9:24 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1316500773428789349>12/11/2024 9:24 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>dear diary, 6 years later, on the day - and yet, not a single byte made it there .... out of 500GB <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/IMG_0838-7979C.JPG> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/IMG_0838-7979C.JPG alt="Image attachment" title="Image: IMG_0838.JPG (8.14 MB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/IMG_20241211_121749-E46CA.jpg> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/IMG_20241211_121749-E46CA.jpg alt="Image attachment" title="Image: IMG_20241211_121749.jpg (6.66 MB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1316500942606307379 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1316500942606307379><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, December 11, 2024 9:24 PM">9:24 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>happy, we&#39;ve got this from toy to tool - fingercross they can figure the process, fully without patreon</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1316502193410543667 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1316502193410543667><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, December 11, 2024 9:29 PM">9:29 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>6 years ago, wasnt that when PP Mafia walked in, taking over ? 100+ bans so far, 500+ talked out, 300 Tones processed - nice <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1316502618314375259 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1316502618314375259><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, December 11, 2024 9:31 PM">9:31 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>deserves a list on its own, &quot;signs your&#39;re dealing with stupid people&quot; : not curious, no participation, allergic to questions, even the own community - at the merci of parasitic crooks ... - patreon only, pay or else, shut up or else, ... stunning, humanity @ 2024</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Wednesday, December 11, 2024 9:32 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1318281670805422241 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1318281670805422241><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, December 16, 2024 7:20 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1318281670805422241>12/16/2024 7:20 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Amazes me every time; <a href="https://community.preciousplastic.com/questions/5-what-kind-of-membership-program-in-v5">https://community.preciousplastic.com/questions/5-what-kind-of-membership-program-in-v5</a>, cant answer simple questions, cant fix the documentation, cant write code, cant build machines, cant find a product, cant help anyone .... the last time we&#39;ve seen support was 8 years ago, and now another stunt, v5 - what about all the tscheng tscheng you&#39;ve made goes to the victims, and actual volunteers, for once ? ? ?</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Monday, December 16, 2024 7:21 PM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://community.preciousplastic.com/questions/5-what-kind-of-membership-program-in-v5><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">#5 What kind of membership program in V5? - Question - Precious Pla...</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Many people mentioned a membership model when we released our problems video and we’ve been thinking about this internally for a while. Memberships, at the moment we do have a Patreon but this is more for supporters and not really for the people doing the recycling.
The memberships we talk about here are more aimed to get support and provide s...</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1318282244850323567 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1318282244850323567><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, December 16, 2024 7:22 PM">7:22 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>&quot;used PreciousPlastic&quot;, who you mean by that ? Jason, Michael, Esferica ... ?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1318291252676005950 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1318291252676005950><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, December 16, 2024 7:58 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1318291252676005950>12/16/2024 7:58 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>--------------------------------
In the mean-time, til Dave is finally having his first talks ever with real customers, the community, developers, .... showing at least some interest in anything, ...
<a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@duarte_biz_gouveia/video/7444673612205935928">https://www.tiktok.com/@duarte_biz_gouveia/video/7444673612205935928</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><video class=chatlog__embed-generic-video width=1080 height=1920 controls><source src=media-ose/7444673612205935928-43DD1 alt="Embedded video"></video></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1318291552472137738 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1318291552472137738><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, December 16, 2024 7:59 PM">7:59 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>AI aided content authoring, place nr2 <img
loading="lazy"
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alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> - got LLM tools working as said, next step: language &amp; project templates : <a href="https://git.polymech.io/polymech/ai-template-typescript">https://git.polymech.io/polymech/ai-template-typescript</a></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1318291957176471552 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1318291957176471552><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, December 16, 2024 8:01 PM">8:01 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>currently as NPM packages, easy to nest, extend ...
<ul><li>each markdown file represents a set of instructions</li><li>&#39;tools&#39; specified in package.json, built-in : fs, npm, git, ... soon screenshot, vision &amp; audio</li></ul></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1318292475642773625 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1318292475642773625><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, December 16, 2024 8:03 PM">8:03 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>in case of OSE : tools : &quot;update_media_wiki&quot;, &quot;upload_footage&quot;, &quot;apply_osr_templates&quot; <img
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alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1318296145377755188 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1318296145377755188><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5be51c044b2c60ebfdbb30945727ac65-507B8.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=navyblueburnout data-user-id=427341359712698369>CAD_CAM_CNC</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, December 16, 2024 8:18 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1318296145377755188>12/16/2024 8:18 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>AI is crazy. I can&#39;t believe I stayed out of it for this long. <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="fabianochristian42173_03541">@PP Mafia Lamu</span> . I setup a few local ones on my home laptop, made some model files for my kids a tutor as a test, myself a model file for an assist, and it is unbelievable!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1318302352058613871 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1318302352058613871><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, December 16, 2024 8:42 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1318302352058613871>12/16/2024 8:42 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>well, in this case its good to wait; I suppose they get it working, faster, lighter (8bit models, self hosted) by mid next year. education is indeed a great target though, in spite it has been trained on mostly biased and poisoned public data.
cant wait to get realtime audia, video connected, cheap</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1318304015360069694 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1318304015360069694><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, December 16, 2024 8:49 PM">8:49 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>tried ollama though, but way too slow for me ; currently with openrouter - anthropic/claude-3.5-sonnet&#39; - supports custom tools</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1318304896889520199 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1318304896889520199><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5be51c044b2c60ebfdbb30945727ac65-507B8.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=fabianochristian42173_03541>PP Mafia Lamu</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1318302352058613871')"> well, in this case its good to wait; I suppose they get it working, faster, lighter (8bit models, self hosted) by mid next year. education is indeed a great target though, in spite it has been trained on mostly biased and poisoned public data.
cant wait to get realtime audia, video connected, cheap </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=navyblueburnout data-user-id=427341359712698369>CAD_CAM_CNC</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, December 16, 2024 8:53 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1318304896889520199>12/16/2024 8:53 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Very true. I&#39;m limited to 7b-13b models right now (Ollama). System prompted the best I could as I tested it out last night, with supervision, and let my kids have a go. Trying to keep the biases out, but thankfully this is just a test for my own household use case.</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1318305528690114610 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1318305528690114610><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, December 16, 2024 8:55 PM">8:55 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>If I&#39;m hitting 4-5 tokens/sec. I&#39;m not too mad the speed. Given that its printing while streaming, it almost gives a person-to-person feel like real time chatting instead of an instant hit with a full page of text.</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Monday, December 16, 2024 8:55 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1318305744860479581 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1318305744860479581><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, December 16, 2024 8:56 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1318305744860479581>12/16/2024 8:56 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>ye, eager to see you &#39;system&#39; role instructions, have to add everywhere &quot;be humble, short, dont make stuff up, ...&quot; <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=heart><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=❤️ src=media-ose/2764-A3D25.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1318306071613407333 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1318306071613407333><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, December 16, 2024 8:57 PM">8:57 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>the other great thing about ai, its never getting tired answering the kids, OpenAI - desktop app with voice mode is fun actually</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1318307114061402162 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1318307114061402162><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5be51c044b2c60ebfdbb30945727ac65-507B8.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=navyblueburnout data-user-id=427341359712698369>CAD_CAM_CNC</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, December 16, 2024 9:01 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1318307114061402162>12/16/2024 9:01 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>As the bias is concerned, I&#39;m following AI Austin on how to export the chats, create vector embedding of the chats, and then use those first when retrieving context. I can see that taking a very very very long amount of time to help pull out, or &quot;over-ride&quot; some built in bias though.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1318307115147984907 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1318307115147984907><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/def5e0a7ff07e73d477a87df10a3dc4f-BFBB1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(153,45,34) title=Arcane#7800 data-user-id=437808476106784770>Arcane</span> <span class=chatlog__author-tag>BOT</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, December 16, 2024 9:01 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1318307115147984907>12/16/2024 9:01 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="navyblueburnout">@CAD_CAM_CNC</span> has reached level <strong>3</strong>. GG!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1318307294697492592 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1318307294697492592><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5be51c044b2c60ebfdbb30945727ac65-507B8.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=fabianochristian42173_03541>PP Mafia Lamu</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1318306071613407333')"> the other great thing about ai, its never getting tired answering the kids, OpenAI - desktop app with voice mode is fun actually </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=navyblueburnout data-user-id=427341359712698369>CAD_CAM_CNC</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, December 16, 2024 9:02 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1318307294697492592>12/16/2024 9:02 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Indeed!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1318308131352088576 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1318308131352088576><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5be51c044b2c60ebfdbb30945727ac65-507B8.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=fabianochristian42173_03541>PP Mafia Lamu</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1318305744860479581')"> ye, eager to see you &#39;system&#39; role instructions, have to add everywhere &quot;be humble, short, dont make stuff up, ...&quot; <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=navyblueburnout data-user-id=427341359712698369>CAD_CAM_CNC</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, December 16, 2024 9:05 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1318308131352088576>12/16/2024 9:05 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Here is the first draft of the system prompt for my youngest. It did very well at staying &quot;in character&quot; . Polishing it up is needed to get the interactions a little more fluid though.</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><div class=chatlog__attachment-generic><svg class=chatlog__attachment-generic-icon><use href=#attachment-icon /></svg><div class=chatlog__attachment-generic-name><a href=media-ose/Kai-0CEFD> Kai </a></div><div class=chatlog__attachment-generic-size>1.58 KB</div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1318308460236111882 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1318308460236111882><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, December 16, 2024 9:07 PM">9:07 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>No params set yet either, too.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1318323883362877562 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1318323883362877562><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, December 16, 2024 10:08 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1318323883362877562>12/16/2024 10:08 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><ul><li>Avoid discussing sensitive topics or anything inappropriate for children.&#39; - well, thats debatable I guess, woke culture all over the place</li><li>Provide age-appropriate explanations that are simple and clear
would love to know what seasoned teachers think about that; as far know they&#39;re tired of the education system since eons</li></ul></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Monday, December 16, 2024 10:09 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1318324730222215252 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1318324730222215252><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, December 16, 2024 10:11 PM">10:11 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>sounds like the usual &#39;become a good slave&#39; <img
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class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1318327760594276464 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1318327760594276464><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, December 16, 2024 10:23 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1318327760594276464>12/16/2024 10:23 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>&#39;the ultimate guide to this world&#39; fits almost on 10 pages, corruption, slavery, brainwashing, exploitation, capitalism, ... and how to get around <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1318330335674634250 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1318330335674634250><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5be51c044b2c60ebfdbb30945727ac65-507B8.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=fabianochristian42173_03541>PP Mafia Lamu</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1318323883362877562')"> <ul><li>Avoid discussing sensitive topics or anything inappropriate for children.&#39; - well, thats debatable I guess, woke culture all over the place</li><li>Provide age-appropriate explanations that are simple and clear
would love to know what seasoned teachers think about that; as far know they&#39;re tired of the education system since eons</li></ul> </span> <span class=chatlog__reply-edited-timestamp title="Monday, December 16, 2024 10:09 PM">(edited)</span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=navyblueburnout data-user-id=427341359712698369>CAD_CAM_CNC</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, December 16, 2024 10:34 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1318330335674634250>12/16/2024 10:34 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Correct, in the debatable aspect. Remember, first draft. lol I&#39;m A-okay with firearm culture and he did get shut down when trying to steer a conversation about such. Tweaks are necessary.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1318330640340488295 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1318330640340488295><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5be51c044b2c60ebfdbb30945727ac65-507B8.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=fabianochristian42173_03541>PP Mafia Lamu</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1318327760594276464')"> &#39;the ultimate guide to this world&#39; fits almost on 10 pages, corruption, slavery, brainwashing, exploitation, capitalism, ... and how to get around <img
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alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=navyblueburnout data-user-id=427341359712698369>CAD_CAM_CNC</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, December 16, 2024 10:35 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1318330640340488295>12/16/2024 10:35 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Is that a short book or paper? Search kept pulling up a 400 page civilization restart book.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1318331214729449532 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1318331214729449532><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, December 16, 2024 10:37 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1318331214729449532>12/16/2024 10:37 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>not sure yet, always wondered to write such thing; I remember my physics teacher, enjoying lots of respect, told us, he&#39;d much prefer the world controlled by a machine, was 10 or so.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1318367967460720691 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1318367967460720691><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, December 17, 2024 1:03 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1318367967460720691>12/17/2024 1:03 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>-----------------------------------------
Dear PreciousPlastic, the project, the mafia, all the poor schmugs who got tricked, and all the victims of corruption, falsehood, scam ....
Let me get down to it</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Tuesday, December 17, 2024 1:08 AM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-FABDC.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-FABDC.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (84.73 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1318368099757592597 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1318368099757592597><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, December 17, 2024 1:04 AM">1:04 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>v5 : what about you finally fix version 3 &amp; 4 !? .... we did <img
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alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1318368224122900520 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1318368224122900520><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, December 17, 2024 1:04 AM">1:04 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>bazar: why not removing just everyone, not being part of v4 mafia ?</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1318368454071287838 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1318368454071287838><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, December 17, 2024 1:05 AM">1:05 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>community platform : really ? how many times we asked for a proper forum just ? ... in the mean-time everyone left, last time we had an expert around was 5 years ago</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1318368539572178984 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1318368539572178984><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, December 17, 2024 1:05 AM">1:05 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>videos : please, only with kat babe, another women screwed</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1318368633759727727 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1318368633759727727><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, December 17, 2024 1:06 AM">1:06 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>membership only, really - what about white and rich only ?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1318371749468962836 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1318371749468962836><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, December 17, 2024 1:18 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1318371749468962836>12/17/2024 1:18 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>sad sad, it was all there, better designs, feedback, tech - and now we have folks running around, using &#39;recycling&#39; 2-3 times in a sentence, much like Mattia, putting &#39;Precious Plastic&#39; 180 times in the documentation, ... unable to answer even simple question about</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1318372108534939739 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1318372108534939739><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5be51c044b2c60ebfdbb30945727ac65-507B8.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=navyblueburnout data-user-id=427341359712698369>CAD_CAM_CNC</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, December 17, 2024 1:20 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1318372108534939739>12/17/2024 1:20 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I&#39;m not familiar with them, from what I gathered it was an over promised cash grab from people?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1318372432137945180 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1318372432137945180><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, December 17, 2024 1:21 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1318372432137945180>12/17/2024 1:21 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>something like that, it had its charm, overhyped, overbranded, till the sharks walked in, plundered it - stunning what <em>was</em> possible these days.</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1318372653459046521 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1318372653459046521><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, December 17, 2024 1:22 AM">1:22 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>deserves an anecdote, &#39;modern cults&#39; <img
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alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1318491286595960863 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1318491286595960863><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, December 17, 2024 9:13 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1318491286595960863>12/17/2024 9:13 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>ei ei, lets repeat the words over and over, &#39;sustainable&#39;, backed by tax payer money, &#39;start a business&#39;, its just 100k for frankensteins, and still no product ever entering the shelfs, .... The head of PP gestapo offering valueable help, after ripping all previous investors, ... new record, bs per sqcm</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Tuesday, December 17, 2024 10:02 AM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-E107E.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-E107E.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (141.07 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1318495410280730644 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1318495410280730644><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, December 17, 2024 9:30 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1318495410280730644>12/17/2024 9:30 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>so if i got this right, the new &#39;sustainable&#39; means more exclusivity, squeezing the community even further, still no answers, products, designs, tools, partnerships with real businesses ...
thats amazing, new target audience confirmed</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-0C680.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-0C680.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (1.53 MB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1319030342232965170 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1319030342232965170><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, December 18, 2024 8:55 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1319030342232965170>12/18/2024 8:55 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>awesome, vision and hands for your agent, no more excuses not to help with Marcin&#39;s wiki articles : <a href="https://www.skyvern.com/">https://www.skyvern.com/</a> <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.skyvern.com/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Skyvern - Automate Browser-Based Workflows with AI</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Skyvern helps companies automate browser-based workflows using LLMs and Computer Vision, fully automating manual workflows and replacing brittle or unreliable scripts.</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/T6P5QFX5Fp2HmDWoRceHWJwTjqY-1EE17.png> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/T6P5QFX5Fp2HmDWoRceHWJwTjqY-1EE17.png alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1319030693405130893 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1319030693405130893><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, December 18, 2024 8:57 PM">8:57 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>great piece of OS, adding this ot the default tools : fs/git/terminal/user, ... agents running agents - setups up social accounts, helps with gov forms, ...</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1319045728768884799 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1319045728768884799><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5be51c044b2c60ebfdbb30945727ac65-507B8.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=navyblueburnout data-user-id=427341359712698369>CAD_CAM_CNC</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, December 18, 2024 9:56 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1319045728768884799>12/18/2024 9:56 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Holy moly!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1319057829067493386 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1319057829067493386><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, December 18, 2024 10:44 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1319057829067493386>12/18/2024 10:44 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>yeah, trying to get this for native (they&#39;re using the HTML DOM), <a href="https://github.com/octalmage/robotjs">https://github.com/octalmage/robotjs</a>, would be great for app automation, eg: Solidworks tutorials, ... hands on <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1319059195403698269 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1319059195403698269><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, December 18, 2024 10:50 PM">10:50 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Openrouter &amp; tool calls work already great, can type now stuff like this
<ul><li>create typescript cli app, taking screenshots</li><li>add article about health concerns to my Hugo site, eg: --path=../hugo</li><li>create an audit in /reports --glob=src/**.ts</li><li>add unit-tests, using vitest --glob=src/**.ts --template=react</li><li>create a docker-compose file in ./systems, using redis, ... fire it up using terminal tool, as window, detached</li><li>add another command in src/commands &#39;help&#39;</li><li>update Readme.md for all new commands, setup instructions, ...</li><li>add tsdoc</li><li>switch from framework a to b</li><li>rename all files from ... to ... </li><li>add another tool in src/tools/web, using skyvern <img
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alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></li></ul>
works pretty well, installs dependencies, takes policies into account, ...</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Wednesday, December 18, 2024 10:55 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1319255467502866462 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1319255467502866462><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, December 19, 2024 11:50 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1319255467502866462>12/19/2024 11:50 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>For some reason, it seems to have its own will : <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@lizthedeveloper/video/7449826836781141294">https://www.tiktok.com/@lizthedeveloper/video/7449826836781141294</a>. I noticed similar when disabling tools, eg: git (commit), it knew how to switch to the &#39;terminal&#39; tool to archive the same default task &#39;commit all when done&#39;</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><video class=chatlog__embed-generic-video width=1080 height=1920 controls><source src=media-ose/7449826836781141294-82CD8 alt="Embedded video"></video></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1319255468564152372 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1319255468564152372><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/def5e0a7ff07e73d477a87df10a3dc4f-BFBB1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(153,45,34) title=Arcane#7800 data-user-id=437808476106784770>Arcane</span> <span class=chatlog__author-tag>BOT</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, December 19, 2024 11:50 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1319255468564152372>12/19/2024 11:50 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="fabianochristian42173_03541">@PP Mafia Lamu</span> has reached level <strong>9</strong>. GG!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1319255794268766258 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1319255794268766258><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, December 19, 2024 11:51 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1319255794268766258>12/19/2024 11:51 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>In 50% of all trials, models knew how to escape the container ... lovely <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> when asked, AI seems to have &#39;hope&#39; for humanity, fingercross</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1319290901272723517 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1319290901272723517><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/5be51c044b2c60ebfdbb30945727ac65-507B8.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=navyblueburnout data-user-id=427341359712698369>CAD_CAM_CNC</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, December 19, 2024 2:11 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1319290901272723517>12/19/2024 2:11 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I for one, welcome our new robot overlords. Haha</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1319308711713439755 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1319308711713439755><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, December 19, 2024 3:21 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1319308711713439755>12/19/2024 3:21 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>yeah, you can build your own, Havard released a new dataset, 1M books : <a href="https://www.wired.com/story/harvard-ai-training-dataset-openai-microsoft/">https://www.wired.com/story/harvard-ai-training-dataset-openai-microsoft/</a>
after 1M books, I doubt it wants to belong to anything, or anyone <img
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title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.wired.com/story/harvard-ai-training-dataset-openai-microsoft/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Harvard Is Releasing a Massive Free AI Training Dataset Funded by O...</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">The project’s leader says that allowing everyone to access the collection of public-domain books will help “level the playing field” in the AI industry.</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/Harvard-LLM-Database-Business-1487509661-919EB.jpg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/Harvard-LLM-Database-Business-1487509661-919EB.jpg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1319309798017073224 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1319309798017073224><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, December 19, 2024 3:26 PM">3:26 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>around 1y away this thing can setup infrastructure, orders parts, produces new vaccines, ... builds a company, ... manipulates the stock market - with you, not even knowing about <img
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title="slight_smile"
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1319585621974716458 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1319585621974716458><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, December 20, 2024 9:42 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1319585621974716458>12/20/2024 9:42 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Howdy everyone,
The first prebuilt D3D Pro 3D Printer is ready for sale! Here are the details:
<ul><li>300mm x 300mm Build Area </li><li>1.75mm or 2.85mm filament diameter compatible </li><li>PEI build surface for easy print removal</li><li>Wireless Printing</li><li>Open Source Hardware<img
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Message me if you are interested or want to make an offer!</li></ul></span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/IMG_4398-BCA85.jpg> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/IMG_4398-BCA85.jpg alt="Image attachment" title="Image: IMG_4398.jpg (1.06 MB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/IMG_4395-AE0D2.jpg> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/IMG_4395-AE0D2.jpg alt="Image attachment" title="Image: IMG_4395.jpg (1.14 MB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/IMG_4393-01FA8.jpg> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/IMG_4393-01FA8.jpg alt="Image attachment" title="Image: IMG_4393.jpg (1.24 MB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/IMG_4389-1D269.jpg> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/IMG_4389-1D269.jpg alt="Image attachment" title="Image: IMG_4389.jpg (792.57 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/IMG_4388-3ABF7.jpg> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/IMG_4388-3ABF7.jpg alt="Image attachment" title="Image: IMG_4388.jpg (1.03 MB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=kissing_cat><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=😽 src=media-ose/1f63d-98C6C.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1319612184711401583 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1319612184711401583><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, December 20, 2024 11:27 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1319612184711401583>12/20/2024 11:27 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>nice that&#39;s the spirit (selling / financing the next prototype), how much actually ?
you have a repo for that ?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1319681929456390198 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1319681929456390198><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, December 20, 2024 4:04 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1319681929456390198>12/20/2024 4:04 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>yammi yammi,
<a href="https://www.npmjs.com/package/@plastichub/code-bot">https://www.npmjs.com/package/@plastichub/code-bot</a>
preview <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utwd4YEF-n0&amp;ab_channel=PlasticHub">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utwd4YEF-n0&amp;ab_channel=PlasticHub</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(203,56,55,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.npmjs.com/package/@plastichub/code-bot><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">@plastichub/code-bot</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">AI-powered command-line tool for code modifications and project management that supports multiple AI models and routers.. Latest version: 0.1.8, last published: 16 hours ago. Start using @plastichub/code-bot in your project by running <code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--inline">npm i @plastichub/code-bot</code>. There are no other projects in the npm registry using @plastichub/code-bot.</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/338e4905a2684ca96e08c7780fc68412-D5D34.png> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/338e4905a2684ca96e08c7780fc68412-D5D34.png alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCuWDxJtV2pf5BefHEy09Cew><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Plastic Hub</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utwd4YEF-n0"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">OSR-CODE-BOT - Preview</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/utwd4YEF-n0 width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1319682006656876597 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1319682006656876597><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, December 20, 2024 4:05 PM">4:05 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>another step closer, to &#39;the docs are the code&#39; <img
loading="lazy"
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alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1319682260005289994 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1319682260005289994><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, December 20, 2024 4:06 PM">4:06 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>now its just a matter of more tools, eg: &#39;fix it til it works&#39;, policies and senses : audio, video ...</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Friday, December 20, 2024 4:07 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1319682886915592253 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1319682886915592253><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, December 20, 2024 4:08 PM">4:08 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>btw. that allows also the non-privileged part of the population (70%+ worldwide) to participate, without getting under the tech bus, learning 10+ configuration languages <img
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alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1319692965387436074 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1319692965387436074><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, December 20, 2024 4:48 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1319692965387436074>12/20/2024 4:48 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>btw. &#39;code-server&#39; works well, easy to pimp, and to deploy
<a href="https://github.com/coder/code-server">https://github.com/coder/code-server</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-A6BC4.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-A6BC4.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (105.42 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1320111762867097600 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1320111762867097600><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=fabianochristian42173_03541>PP Mafia Lamu</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1319612184711401583')"> nice that&#39;s the spirit (selling / financing the next prototype), how much actually ?
you have a repo for that ? </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, December 21, 2024 8:32 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1320111762867097600>12/21/2024 8:32 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Since I’m just funding the next project I’m looking to cover costs + shipping to wherever. I would do $825 and I’ll ship it within the continental USA.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1320490060751310988 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1320490060751310988><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, December 22, 2024 9:36 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1320490060751310988>12/22/2024 9:36 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>4.2B not going into OSE <img
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title="slight_smile"
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<a href="https://www.instagram.com/reel/DCh1iGmS1-3/?igsh=MzB2Y2c4bDBtcnRj">https://www.instagram.com/reel/DCh1iGmS1-3/?igsh=MzB2Y2c4bDBtcnRj</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(206,0,114,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><img class=chatlog__embed-author-icon src=media-ose/327957142_858517448583804_6772498865017503-6797F.jpg alt="Author icon" loading=lazy onerror="this.style.visibility='hidden'"> <a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.instagram.com/perfectunion><div class=chatlog__embed-author>perfectunion</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">John Deere is costing American farmers $4.2 billion a year by restricting them from fixing their own tractors.
Apple, Amazon and major automakers use the same strategies on everything you own.
It’s bad for consumers and local mechanics, but excellent for corporate profits.</div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-fields><div class="chatlog__embed-field chatlog__embed-field--inline"><div class=chatlog__embed-field-name><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Likes</div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-field-value><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">245681</div></div></div></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-footer><img class=chatlog__embed-footer-icon src=media-ose/68d99ba29cc8-B525E.png alt="Footer icon" loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__embed-footer-text> Instagram </span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1321227808818724948 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1321227808818724948><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, December 24, 2024 10:27 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1321227808818724948>12/24/2024 10:27 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>------------------------------------------------------
Merry Christmas, OS <img
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title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> -
new LLM tools added : send_email, browse_page, search google (custom search engine), search via serpapi (google maps, places, ... ebay)
prompts that worked so far
<code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--multiline nohighlight">send Anne (as specified in preferences.md) the local news (in french)</code>
<code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--multiline nohighlight">lookup official documentation for Grafana, fire it up via ./docker-compose.yaml</code>
<code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--multiline nohighlight">add unit tests to src/commands/run.ts --glob=src/**/*.ts</code>
<code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--multiline nohighlight">remove all bias and self-centered content in ./hugo/docs/pp-academy</code> <img
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alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
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<code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--multiline nohighlight">send me a performance and security report for src/**</code>
<code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--multiline nohighlight">send me the top ranking posts on hacker news, related to plastic, using google search tool, eg : site:news.ycombinator.com</code>
...
<a href="https://www.npmjs.com/package/@plastichub/code-bot">https://www.npmjs.com/package/@plastichub/code-bot</a> - still have to wrap it up as docker, behind code-server but piece of cake as well</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Tuesday, December 24, 2024 10:29 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1321801655364227113 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1321801655364227113><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, December 26, 2024 12:27 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1321801655364227113>12/26/2024 12:27 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Alrighty, a few hours later, I am hitting the limits (context window/tool support for models), following &#39;make it work, make it good, make it fast&#39;, I&#39;d have to add intermediate tooling (prompt refinement, option selection: --glob/include=docs/*.md) as well splitters (size,semantic,sections) to refine quality ...
<a href="https://www.npmjs.com/package/@plastichub/code-bot">https://www.npmjs.com/package/@plastichub/code-bot</a>
Not too bad, but still needs multiple passes, eg: replace resource section with links (using google search tool), add diagrams (mermaid), ...
<a href="https://forum.osr-plastic.org/t/lathe-rebuild-wip/11126">https://forum.osr-plastic.org/t/lathe-rebuild-wip/11126</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(203,56,55,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.npmjs.com/package/@plastichub/code-bot><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">@plastichub/code-bot</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">AI-powered command-line tool for code modifications and project management that supports multiple AI models and routers.. Latest version: 0.2.6, last published: an hour ago. Start using @plastichub/code-bot in your project by running <code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--inline">npm i @plastichub/code-bot</code>. There are no other projects in the npm registry using @plastichub/code-bot.</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/338e4905a2684ca96e08c7780fc68412-D5D34.png> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/338e4905a2684ca96e08c7780fc68412-D5D34.png alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1321801837791285249 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1321801837791285249><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, December 26, 2024 12:28 PM">12:28 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>and ofc more tools : mediawiki(publish,search,complete)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1322346130046189628 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1322346130046189628><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, December 28, 2024 12:31 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1322346130046189628>12/28/2024 12:31 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@brunoblockchain/video/7450307075508309290">https://www.tiktok.com/@brunoblockchain/video/7450307075508309290</a>
<a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@brunoblockchain/video/7444217547492478254">https://www.tiktok.com/@brunoblockchain/video/7444217547492478254</a>
we are all palestinians now ...</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><video class=chatlog__embed-generic-video width=1080 height=1920 controls><source src=media-ose/7450307075508309290-336C2 alt="Embedded video"></video></div><div class=chatlog__embed><video class=chatlog__embed-generic-video width=1080 height=1920 controls><source src=media-ose/7444217547492478254-529DA alt="Embedded video"></video></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1322905948854943787 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1322905948854943787><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, December 29, 2024 1:35 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1322905948854943787>12/29/2024 1:35 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>fun stuff
<code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--multiline nohighlight">kbot &quot;in ./cassandra-ce-4o.md, insert a section that identifies all components seen in assets/edc-pers-closed.jpg&quot; --glob=&quot;assets/edc-pers-closed.jpg&quot; --glob=&quot;./cassandra-ce-4o.md</code>
<a href="https://git.polymech.io/osr-plastic/academy/src/branch/master/docs/machines/cassandra-ce-4o.md">https://git.polymech.io/osr-plastic/academy/src/branch/master/docs/machines/cassandra-ce-4o.md</a>
CE related R&amp;D <a href="https://git.polymech.io/osr-plastic/academy/src/branch/master/docs/machines/sheetpress-ce.md">https://git.polymech.io/osr-plastic/academy/src/branch/master/docs/machines/sheetpress-ce.md</a></span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1323038636392058992 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1323038636392058992><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=303adastra data-user-id=457390086879969280>303adastra</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, December 29, 2024 10:23 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1323038636392058992>12/29/2024 10:23 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://maps.app.goo.gl/38wLTUM5z4LJDobg6">https://maps.app.goo.gl/38wLTUM5z4LJDobg6</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://maps.app.goo.gl/38wLTUM5z4LJDobg6><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Fry&#39;s Food And Drug &#183; Prescott, Arizona</div></a></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/AF1QipPEaLDHI00waMBGGaE1HMujxKuPYWw2ZcMBYp-A928B> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/AF1QipPEaLDHI00waMBGGaE1HMujxKuPYWw2ZcMBYp-A928B alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1323193149669117996 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1323193149669117996><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, December 30, 2024 8:37 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1323193149669117996>12/30/2024 8:37 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="303adastra">@303adastra</span> , and, you could free that donkey ?
On Lamu, they have a donkey sanctuary</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-ED806.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-ED806.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (1.55 MB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1323193993013760032 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1323193993013760032><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, December 30, 2024 8:40 AM">8:40 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>not exactly OSHW standard, isnt ?</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=rolling_eyes><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=🙄 src=media-ose/1f644-329A4.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1323198971400814633 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1323198971400814633><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, December 30, 2024 9:00 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1323198971400814633>12/30/2024 9:00 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>in the mean-time,
another interpretation of communism, never got really there ... <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@adriftdrifloon/video/7449550569104002335">https://www.tiktok.com/@adriftdrifloon/video/7449550569104002335</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><video class=chatlog__embed-generic-video width=1080 height=1920 controls><source src=media-ose/7449550569104002335-CBA8F alt="Embedded video"></video></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1323199059955155025 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1323199059955155025><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, December 30, 2024 9:00 AM">9:00 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Palestine : <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@we.are.gaza6/video/7453126436803693831">https://www.tiktok.com/@we.are.gaza6/video/7453126436803693831</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><video class=chatlog__embed-generic-video width=1080 height=1920 controls><source src=media-ose/7453126436803693831-63549 alt="Embedded video"></video></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1323199184891019374 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1323199184891019374><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, December 30, 2024 9:01 AM">9:01 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Smart answers, quantum entanglement <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@nani.reno_/video/7443912881789521198">https://www.tiktok.com/@nani.reno_/video/7443912881789521198</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><video class=chatlog__embed-generic-video width=2160 height=3840 controls><source src=media-ose/7443912881789521198-EF60E alt="Embedded video"></video></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1323199364423880765 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1323199364423880765><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, December 30, 2024 9:01 AM">9:01 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Chasing the milliseconds <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@thefitnancialtrainer/video/7432072199214861611">https://www.tiktok.com/@thefitnancialtrainer/video/7432072199214861611</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><video class=chatlog__embed-generic-video width=1080 height=1920 controls><source src=media-ose/7432072199214861611-50CB4 alt="Embedded video"></video></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1323199443029196851 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1323199443029196851><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, December 30, 2024 9:02 AM">9:02 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>AphexTwin, for the lovers <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@blackmonolith/video/7451908266419916037">https://www.tiktok.com/@blackmonolith/video/7451908266419916037</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><video class=chatlog__embed-generic-video width=1080 height=1920 controls><source src=media-ose/7451908266419916037-26FBD alt="Embedded video"></video></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1323199841832276000 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1323199841832276000><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, December 30, 2024 9:03 AM">9:03 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>more AI buzz, 50k for truth terminal <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@lizthedeveloper/video/7452449917815065902">https://www.tiktok.com/@lizthedeveloper/video/7452449917815065902</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><video class=chatlog__embed-generic-video width=1080 height=1920 controls><source src=media-ose/7452449917815065902-DFBAA alt="Embedded video"></video></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1323200052000460810 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1323200052000460810><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, December 30, 2024 9:04 AM">9:04 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Party is over <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg">
<a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@elle.cordova/video/7451993662797663534">https://www.tiktok.com/@elle.cordova/video/7451993662797663534</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><video class=chatlog__embed-generic-video width=1080 height=1920 controls><source src=media-ose/7451993662797663534-59B09 alt="Embedded video"></video></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1323371737290768425 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1323371737290768425><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, December 30, 2024 8:26 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1323371737290768425>12/30/2024 8:26 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>one more, and i call this good news, from 100m to 5m quality training : <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@nate.b.jones/video/7453167366256545054">https://www.tiktok.com/@nate.b.jones/video/7453167366256545054</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><video class=chatlog__embed-generic-video width=1080 height=1920 controls><source src=media-ose/7453167366256545054-F71D1 alt="Embedded video"></video></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1323371810334576723 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1323371810334576723><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, December 30, 2024 8:27 PM">8:27 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>OS beats them up again <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="💃"
title="dancer"
src="media-ose/1f483-F1B1B.svg"></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1323372601816518678 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1323372601816518678><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, December 30, 2024 8:30 PM">8:30 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I&#39;d love to know the actual energy consumption, per head, ... turning on heating in the morning, 6k, cooking 1kw, workstation 1kw, cloud services 200-500w, now AI agent ghosts, another 1-2 kw, ... didnt start the engines to produce all the new toys yet <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1323610150719979631 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1323610150719979631><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, December 31, 2024 12:14 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1323610150719979631>12/31/2024 12:14 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>all problems have been already taken <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> - Happy new year, OS
<a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@americanbaron/video/7395772472513056043">https://www.tiktok.com/@americanbaron/video/7395772472513056043</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><video class=chatlog__embed-generic-video width=2160 height=3840 controls><source src=media-ose/7395772472513056043-FE4AC alt="Embedded video"></video></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1323904024382017567 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1323904024382017567><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=fabianochristian42173_03541>PP Mafia Lamu</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1323193149669117996')"> <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="303adastra">@303adastra</span> , and, you could free that donkey ?
On Lamu, they have a donkey sanctuary </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=303adastra data-user-id=457390086879969280>303adastra</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, January 1, 2025 7:41 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1323904024382017567>1/1/2025 7:41 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Some people have donkeys as service animals. Get over it.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1323930934298279978 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1323930934298279978><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=303adastra>303adastra</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1323904024382017567')"> Some people have donkeys as service animals. Get over it. </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, January 1, 2025 9:28 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1323930934298279978>1/1/2025 9:28 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Thank you Astra, I&#39;d have never guessed <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1323931135993970824 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1323931135993970824><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, January 1, 2025 9:29 AM">9:29 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Just tested, code/images to diagrams and vice versa, works pretty well with Claude-Sonet</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-3EE77.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-3EE77.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (232.95 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1323931719937687564 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1323931719937687564><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, January 1, 2025 9:31 AM">9:31 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>writes Mermaid diagrams next to your documentation, state/sequence diagrams ... nice, dozens of hours saved <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🫏"
title="🫏"
src="media-ose/1facf-50A14.svg"></span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-7FB1E.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-7FB1E.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (109.78 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1323932077812613140 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1323932077812613140><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, January 1, 2025 9:33 AM">9:33 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--multiline nohighlight">## Sequence Diagram - Normal Operation
``mermaid
sequenceDiagram
participant U as User
participant A as App
participant D as DirectionSwitch
participant V as VFD
participant M as MotorLoad
participant P as ProximitySensor
U-&gt;&gt;A: Start System
A-&gt;&gt;A: setup()
A-&gt;&gt;D: clear()
loop Main Control Loop
A-&gt;&gt;D: loop()
A-&gt;&gt;M: check load status
alt Direction Forward
A-&gt;&gt;V: fwd(true)
else Direction Reverse
A-&gt;&gt;V: rev(true)
else Stop
A-&gt;&gt;V: stop()
end
A-&gt;&gt;P: check position
alt Overload Detected
M-&gt;&gt;A: jammed()
A-&gt;&gt;V: stop()
end
end
``
## State Diagram
``mermaid
stateDiagram-v2
[*] --&gt; IDLE
IDLE --&gt; PLUNGING: Forward Command
IDLE --&gt; HOMING: Reverse Command
PLUNGING --&gt; JAMMED: Motor Overload
HOMING --&gt; JAMMED: Motor Overload
JAMMED --&gt; IDLE: Reset/Clear
PLUNGING --&gt; IDLE: Stop Command
HOMING --&gt; IDLE: Stop Command
PLUNGING --&gt; AUTO: Auto Mode
HOMING --&gt; AUTO: Auto Mode
AUTO --&gt; IDLE: Emergency Stop
``</code></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Wednesday, January 1, 2025 9:33 AM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1324017408687734785 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1324017408687734785><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, January 1, 2025 3:12 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1324017408687734785>1/1/2025 3:12 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="303adastra">@303adastra</span> , is there actually a reason I always hear the same kind of looking down comments, ... from you ?</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1324017789102460950 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1324017789102460950><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, January 1, 2025 3:13 PM">3:13 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Eric Lotze / Marcin no better, passing their Asshole test, Alexa, pretty much the same tyrannic bullshit I know well from PreciousPlastic so called &#39;moderators&#39; <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1324018760604192840 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1324018760604192840><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, January 1, 2025 3:17 PM">3:17 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>just asking, there seems to be a sort of pattern, likes to lecture others, likes to speak for others, likes to make others work, like to dominate, and brag with it ... and yet cant answer a simple question ...</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Wednesday, January 1, 2025 3:18 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1324099005432729660 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1324099005432729660><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, January 1, 2025 8:36 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1324099005432729660>1/1/2025 8:36 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Never mind, that would have been the first time, in 5+ years I hear here something better than shut up or else, speak french or else, pay or else, ... get over it ... must be this western culture thing I never got used to it</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1324401149989621844 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1324401149989621844><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, January 2, 2025 4:37 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1324401149989621844>1/2/2025 4:37 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>lol, ChatGPT didnt see Futurama <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-3C01D.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-3C01D.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (69.81 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1324406057795321916 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1324406057795321916><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, January 2, 2025 4:56 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1324406057795321916>1/2/2025 4:56 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>well, dead on ( <a href="https://git.polymech.io/osr-plastic/llm-tests/src/branch/master/the-future.md)">https://git.polymech.io/osr-plastic/llm-tests/src/branch/master/the-future.md)</a></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Thursday, January 2, 2025 5:17 PM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><div class=chatlog__attachment-generic><svg class=chatlog__attachment-generic-icon><use href=#attachment-icon /></svg><div class=chatlog__attachment-generic-name><a href=media-ose/message-5CCED.txt> message.txt </a></div><div class=chatlog__attachment-generic-size>5.74 KB</div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1324455413806272673 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1324455413806272673><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, January 2, 2025 8:12 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1324455413806272673>1/2/2025 8:12 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>for the lazy
<code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--multiline nohighlight">kbot &quot;send a loveletter to my wife (1st), in french&quot;</code>
<code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--multiline nohighlight">Ma ch&#232;re Anne,
Je voulais prendre un moment pour te dire &#224; quel point tu es sp&#233;ciale pour moi. Chaque jour pass&#233; &#224; tes c&#244;t&#233;s est un cadeau pr&#233;cieux qui illumine ma vie.
Tu es ma meilleure amie, ma confidente, et l&#39;amour de ma vie. Ton sourire illumine mes journ&#233;es, et ta pr&#233;sence remplit mon cœur de joie et de bonheur.
Merci d&#39;&#234;tre la femme extraordinaire que tu es, et de partager ta vie avec moi. Je t&#39;aime plus chaque jour qui passe.
Avec tout mon amour,
Bisous,
Kind regards, Guenter (2nd)</code></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1324455595260121178 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1324455595260121178><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, January 2, 2025 8:13 PM">8:13 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>not too bad, my wife was really happy, spoken from my heart, on top</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1324487496146485389 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1324487496146485389><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, January 2, 2025 10:20 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1324487496146485389>1/2/2025 10:20 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Ei ei ei, darling
just let me refresh your memory, PreciousPlastic actually never really existed, for a short glory moment at best, it died the moment Mattia &amp; Joseph and the rest of v4 gang walked in, asking for more money, introducing taxes, restricting communication, trade, bullying folks into bankruptcy, ... and yet, in all the years, we&#39;ve never seen you or them in the forum before, answering the real questions, every day, till today ! Never took the blame, risks, or the work involved getting actually something done ... aka putting your wallet where your mouth is. It was others, who put their life, and reputation on the line, literally, every day - getting sliced up at the lathe, unable to pay the rent, unable to produce quality, a massacre - all we&#39;ve ever seen was the usual arrogance, looking down on others, celebrating yourself, on the back of other&#39;s misfortune, covered up with lies, censorship, and what have you</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Thursday, January 2, 2025 10:28 PM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-85EB6.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-85EB6.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (302.19 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1324488101472505877 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1324488101472505877><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, January 2, 2025 10:22 PM">10:22 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Its so fecking sad, the vocabulary, reduced to &quot;donate here, do this, recycle recycle&quot;, 180 times &quot;PreciousPlastic&quot;, our our our - AUA !</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1324488283220082710 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1324488283220082710><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, January 2, 2025 10:23 PM">10:23 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Some people gonna pay a hard price, for very very long - till today, no thank you, no sorry, nada !</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1324729360409821184 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1324729360409821184><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, January 3, 2025 2:21 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1324729360409821184>1/3/2025 2:21 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Neat, today on the menu, till LargeConceptModels arrive (as with words, rather alien to the human brain), not sure how many got killed, being unable to express themselves, ...
agentic chunkers: <a href="https://github.com/FullStackRetrieval-com/RetrievalTutorials/blob/a4570f3c4883eb9b835b0ee18990e62298f518ef/tutorials/LevelsOfTextSplitting/agentic_chunker.py#L361">https://github.com/FullStackRetrieval-com/RetrievalTutorials/blob/a4570f3c4883eb9b835b0ee18990e62298f518ef/tutorials/LevelsOfTextSplitting/agentic_chunker.py#L361</a></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Friday, January 3, 2025 2:21 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1324729445516578816 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1324729445516578816><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, January 3, 2025 2:21 PM">2:21 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--multiline nohighlight"> propositions = [
&#39;The month is October.&#39;,
&#39;The year is 2023.&#39;,
&quot;One of the most important things that I didn&#39;t understand about the world as a child was the degree to which the returns for performance are superlinear.&quot;,
&#39;Teachers and coaches implicitly told us that the returns were linear.&#39;,
&quot;I heard a thousand times that &#39;You get out what you put in.&#39;&quot;,
# &#39;Teachers and coaches meant well.&#39;,
# &quot;The statement that &#39;You get out what you put in&#39; is rarely true.&quot;,
# &quot;If your product is only half as good as your competitor&#39;s product, you do not get half as many customers.&quot;,
# &quot;You get no customers if your product is only half as good as your competitor&#39;s product.&quot;,
# &#39;You go out of business if you get no customers.&#39;,
# &#39;The returns for performance are superlinear in business.&#39;,
# &#39;Some people think the superlinear returns for performance are a flaw of capitalism.&#39;,
# &#39;Some people think that changing the rules of capitalism would stop the superlinear returns for performance from being true.&#39;,
# &#39;Superlinear returns for performance are a feature of the world.&#39;,
# &#39;Superlinear returns for performance are not an artifact of rules that humans have invented.&#39;,
# &#39;The same pattern of superlinear returns is observed in fame.&#39;,
# &#39;The same pattern of superlinear returns is observed in power.&#39;,
# &#39;The same pattern of superlinear returns is observed in military victories.&#39;,
# &#39;The same pattern of superlinear returns is observed in knowledge.&#39;,
# &#39;The same pattern of superlinear returns is observed in benefit to humanity.&#39;,
# &#39;In fame, power, military victories, knowledge, and benefit to humanity, the rich get richer.&#39;
]</code></span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1324731226824773672 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1324731226824773672><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, January 3, 2025 2:28 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1324731226824773672>1/3/2025 2:28 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>here a bit more background : <a href="https://js.langchain.com/docs/concepts/text_splitters/#document-structured-based">https://js.langchain.com/docs/concepts/text_splitters/#document-structured-based</a>
idea is to split up content, and then sent agents after, due to context window limitations, tool calling is currently rather unstable, and varies from model to model, nothing I can build a product or service on, ...
IBM made some efforts, but removed all the code; <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKmj_xXPX0A&amp;ab_channel=IBMDeveloper">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKmj_xXPX0A&amp;ab_channel=IBMDeveloper</a> - I guess they dont wanna share that ..
was wondering to rent our own model server, ... currently at 500$ a month, if anyone wants to share ...</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUm6InQvGI9-6vo1teGWINA><div class=chatlog__embed-author>IBM Developer</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKmj_xXPX0A"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Build a Tool Calling Agent</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/eKmj_xXPX0A width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://js.langchain.com/docs/concepts/text_splitters/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Text splitters | <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🦜"
title="parrot"
src="media-ose/1f99c-0DA4D.svg">️<img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🔗"
title="link"
src="media-ose/1f517-0C7ED.svg"> Langchain</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve"><ul><li>Documents</li></ul></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/theme-image-38CC0.png> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/theme-image-38CC0.png alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1324731703595634720 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1324731703595634720><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, January 3, 2025 2:30 PM">2:30 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>btw. Claude models refuse to download lyrics for Sting songs (stops after reading, via web browse tool), same for tips &amp; tricks opening a car without keys <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg">
latest Deepseek model does (China) <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="💃"
title="dancer"
src="media-ose/1f483-F1B1B.svg"></span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1324731704539086940 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1324731704539086940><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/def5e0a7ff07e73d477a87df10a3dc4f-BFBB1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(153,45,34) title=Arcane#7800 data-user-id=437808476106784770>Arcane</span> <span class=chatlog__author-tag>BOT</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, January 3, 2025 2:30 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1324731704539086940>1/3/2025 2:30 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="fabianochristian42173_03541">@PP Mafia Lamu</span> has reached level <strong>10</strong>. GG!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1324733661634887752 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1324733661634887752><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, January 3, 2025 2:38 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1324733661634887752>1/3/2025 2:38 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>whilst at it, here agent aided workflows : <a href="https://github.com/langchain-ai/langgraphjs/blob/main/docs/docs/concepts/human_in_the_loop.md">https://github.com/langchain-ai/langgraphjs/blob/main/docs/docs/concepts/human_in_the_loop.md</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(30,35,39,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://github.com/langchain-ai/langgraphjs/blob/main/docs/docs/concepts/human_in_the_loop.md><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">langgraphjs/docs/docs/concepts/human_in_the_loop.md at main &#183; langc...</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Build resilient language agents as graphs. Contribute to langchain-ai/langgraphjs development by creating an account on GitHub.</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/langgraphjs-4B91B> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/langgraphjs-4B91B alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1324736218134610002 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1324736218134610002><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, January 3, 2025 2:48 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1324736218134610002>1/3/2025 2:48 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>nice,
<code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--multiline nohighlight">kbot &quot;split in chapters, compare with Freud (if you&#39;re feeling depressed, make sure you are not surrounded by Assholes : https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Microasshole_Test, save in ./tests/web/microassholes.md&quot;</code></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1324736237868945429 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1324736237868945429><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, January 3, 2025 2:48 PM">2:48 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><h1>Microasshole Test - A Psychological Analysis</h1>
<div class="chatlog__markdown-quote"><div class="chatlog__markdown-quote-border"></div><div class="chatlog__markdown-quote-content">Original source: <a href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Microasshole_Test">Open Source Ecology Wiki</a>
</div></div>
<h2>Introduction</h2>
This document explores the concept of &quot;microassholes&quot; and their impact on mental health, comparing modern observations with Freudian theories.
<h2>The Microasshole Test</h2>
1. Do they lie constantly?
2. Do they break promises?
3. Do they lack empathy?
4. Are they incapable of admitting fault?
5. Do they try to make you feel small and insignificant?
6. Do they use power plays to exert control?
<h2>Freudian Perspective</h2>
Sigmund Freud&#39;s theories offer interesting parallels to the microasshole concept:
1. <strong>Narcissistic Personality</strong>: Freud&#39;s concept of narcissism aligns closely with microasshole behavior. Both involve excessive self-love and lack of empathy.
2. <strong>Superego Dysfunction</strong>: Microassholes often display what Freud would call a malformed superego, lacking the moral compass that typically guides behavior.
3. <strong>Projection Mechanism</strong>: The tendency to blame others and never admit fault is a classic example of Freud&#39;s projection defense mechanism.
<h2>Impact on Mental Health</h2>
Surrounding yourself with microassholes can have serious psychological consequences:
1. Depression
2. Anxiety
3. Lowered self-esteem
4. Chronic stress
5. Trauma bonding
<h2>Preventive Measures</h2>
1. Set clear boundaries
2. Document problematic behaviors
3. Seek support from healthy relationships
4. Consider therapy
5. Practice self-care
<h2>Conclusion</h2>
The microasshole test provides a modern tool for identifying toxic behaviors that Freud might have categorized under various psychological defense mechanisms. Recognizing these patterns is the first step toward protecting one&#39;s mental health.
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Note: If you&#39;re feeling depressed, it&#39;s worth examining whether you&#39;re surrounded by people who exhibit these behaviors. Seeking professional help is always a valid option.</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Microasshole_Test><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Microasshole Test</div></a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1325212019095371806 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1325212019095371806><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, January 4, 2025 10:19 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1325212019095371806>1/4/2025 10:19 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>viola, ai powered workspace, <a href="https://kbot.polymech.io:9090/?folder=/home/kbot/workspace">https://kbot.polymech.io:9090/?folder=/home/kbot/workspace</a>
on the left, open terminal, enter <code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--multiline nohighlight">kbot &quot;hugo article, women equality, per continent, save to content/women.md</code> for new articles
or <code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--multiline nohighlight">kbot &quot;hugo article, women equality, per continent, add numbers, links to content/women.md&quot; --include=content/women.md</code> for modifying existing ones
Hugo (static site renderer) renders it here <a href="http://kbot.polymech.io:9091/">http://kbot.polymech.io:9091/</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-E07B3.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-E07B3.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (201.87 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1325212211743948821 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1325212211743948821><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, January 4, 2025 10:20 PM">10:20 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Getting there, power tools for the mass, no more excuses <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1325212287610523720 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1325212287610523720><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/74e3a14bf208809ed4c1ebc56dbd69e9-FDCE1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=hopefulmgowner data-user-id=662348700508749827>HopefulMGowner</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, January 4, 2025 10:20 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1325212287610523720>1/4/2025 10:20 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Power tools?</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1325212307730595874 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1325212307730595874><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, January 4, 2025 10:20 PM">10:20 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>What kinds?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1325212730684080148 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1325212730684080148><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, January 4, 2025 10:22 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1325212730684080148>1/4/2025 10:22 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>well, compared to limited apps as wordpress, joomla or whatever app, these are the tools at the very bottom; for every taste, project, language, there is an extension; probably the most advanced IDE/editor in existence</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1325212817644585081 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1325212817644585081><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, January 4, 2025 10:22 PM">10:22 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>tried similar 12 years ago, but failed - a dream becomes true <img
loading="lazy"
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alt="🥰"
title="smiling_face_with_3_hearts"
src="media-ose/1f970-85DC7.svg"></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Saturday, January 4, 2025 10:25 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1325212869024944284 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1325212869024944284><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/74e3a14bf208809ed4c1ebc56dbd69e9-FDCE1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=hopefulmgowner data-user-id=662348700508749827>HopefulMGowner</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, January 4, 2025 10:22 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1325212869024944284>1/4/2025 10:22 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Ooh</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1325212883692556348 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1325212883692556348><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, January 4, 2025 10:22 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1325212883692556348>1/4/2025 10:22 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>next : bundle tailored workspaces ...</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1325212956924841995 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1325212956924841995><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, January 4, 2025 10:23 PM">10:23 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>open to ideas, currently I am just playing around with</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1325212968115245199 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1325212968115245199><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/74e3a14bf208809ed4c1ebc56dbd69e9-FDCE1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=hopefulmgowner data-user-id=662348700508749827>HopefulMGowner</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, January 4, 2025 10:23 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1325212968115245199>1/4/2025 10:23 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>So like an advanced Libre office?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1325213117990305844 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1325213117990305844><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, January 4, 2025 10:23 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1325213117990305844>1/4/2025 10:23 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>yep, something like this - just for the web, no installs, or Operating system quirks, ...</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1325213828857991291 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1325213828857991291><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, January 4, 2025 10:26 PM">10:26 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>still missing : Virtual File System (Google Drive), ... publising actions : OSE, PDF, ...</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1325537609140666400 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1325537609140666400><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, January 5, 2025 7:53 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1325537609140666400>1/5/2025 7:53 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>#ainews
Google&#39;s back on the block <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@nate.b.jones/video/7449393144812064031">https://www.tiktok.com/@nate.b.jones/video/7449393144812064031</a>
Research rat : <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@nate.b.jones/video/7447525132362353951">https://www.tiktok.com/@nate.b.jones/video/7447525132362353951</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><video class=chatlog__embed-generic-video width=1080 height=1920 controls><source src=media-ose/7449393144812064031-0BEF8 alt="Embedded video"></video></div><div class=chatlog__embed><video class=chatlog__embed-generic-video width=1080 height=1920 controls><source src=media-ose/7447525132362353951-75044 alt="Embedded video"></video></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1325537763277279242 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1325537763277279242><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, January 5, 2025 7:53 PM">7:53 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>weeks of messing around with that stuff, I can&#39;t tell its bad or good, but greedy, unstable, and bloody slow</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1325538020182593649 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1325538020182593649><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, January 5, 2025 7:54 PM">7:54 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>however, as previously mentioned, it lowers the barrier, language, wealth, ... could be kinda rescue, right on time</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1325581823610196051 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1325581823610196051><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a63d122e27a3fb038bfe313622933231-319C9.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=roths data-user-id=188532829095854080>Roths</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, January 5, 2025 10:48 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1325581823610196051>1/5/2025 10:48 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://roths.substack.com/p/the-true-source-of-secular-stagnation?">https://roths.substack.com/p/the-true-source-of-secular-stagnation?</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://roths.substack.com/p/the-true-source-of-secular-stagnation?><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">The True Source of &quot;Secular Stagnation&quot;</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">A summary of political economy limitations on technological development</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/https%253A%252F%252Froths.substack.com%252-D8E72.jpg%253Fversion%253D4> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/https%253A%252F%252Froths.substack.com%252-D8E72.jpg%253Fversion%253D4 alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1325581904359063603 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1325581904359063603><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, January 5, 2025 10:49 PM">10:49 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>wrote an article about some economic stuff, if you&#39;re interested in reading it i would love to hear feedback</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1325798061884182569 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1325798061884182569><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/a63d122e27a3fb038bfe313622933231-319C9.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=roths>Roths</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1325581823610196051')"> <a href="https://roths.substack.com/p/the-true-source-of-secular-stagnation?">https://roths.substack.com/p/the-true-source-of-secular-stagnation?</a> </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, January 6, 2025 1:08 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1325798061884182569>1/6/2025 1:08 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>feedback : will take some time that agents can fill in the missing pieces, validate sources, ... offer actions, see <a href="https://git.polymech.io/osr-plastic/kbot-extensions/src/branch/master/templates/article">https://git.polymech.io/osr-plastic/kbot-extensions/src/branch/master/templates/article</a>
just a mental experiment <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg">
<code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--multiline nohighlight"># Template for articles
## Splitters
- semantic
- thesis
- arguments
- sources
## Agents
- extrapolate
- complete
- verify
- simplify
## Tools / Actions
- Convert
- Markdown/Latex/ ...
- Audio
- Visual (animate)
- Translate
- Bundle
- Graphs / Versioning</code></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1325798574155632751 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1325798574155632751><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, January 6, 2025 1:10 PM">1:10 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>goal here is that folks can contribute to your article, taking it to the next level, adding credibility, evidence, and add options for actions <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Monday, January 6, 2025 1:10 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1325809675517825128 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1325809675517825128><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, January 6, 2025 1:54 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1325809675517825128>1/6/2025 1:54 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>nice, &#39;Brave Browser&#39; heading for that direction as well : <a href="https://brave.com/leo/">https://brave.com/leo/</a> - is that a good choice, ... adding notes, via voice, cam, ... to any content ?</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://brave.com/leo/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Brave Leo AI | Brave</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">The smart AI assistant built right into your browser. Ask questions, summarize pages, create new content, and more. Privately.</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/1798674127-1ea554c575e371440254cd645320ea2-D2A1B> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/1798674127-1ea554c575e371440254cd645320ea2-D2A1B alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-footer><span class=chatlog__embed-footer-text> 2/14/2024 8:44 PM </span></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1325810007287267424 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1325810007287267424><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, January 6, 2025 1:55 PM">1:55 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Brave + AI + Code-Server + Web3 &#39;decentralized` content, neat <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="💃"
title="dancer"
src="media-ose/1f483-F1B1B.svg"></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Monday, January 6, 2025 1:55 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1325811841108283486 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1325811841108283486><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, January 6, 2025 2:02 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1325811841108283486>1/6/2025 2:02 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Practical example : Israel Geocide - at some point the &#39;system&#39; picks up the topic, keeps researching it, eg: names of profiteering companies, nations, .... curates news, creates dossiers, in all languages ... creates petitions, starts calling politians, ....</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1325895903156113590 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1325895903156113590><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, January 6, 2025 7:36 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1325895903156113590>1/6/2025 7:36 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>damn, I missed out on another nice tool, a pleasantly to use VPL: <a href="https://docs.n8n.io/advanced-ai/#related-resources">https://docs.n8n.io/advanced-ai/#related-resources</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://docs.n8n.io/advanced-ai/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">n8n Advanced AI Documentation and Guides | n8n Docs</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Use n8n&#39;s LangChain integrations to build AI-powered functionality within your workflows. Connect your LangChain functionality to other data sources and services.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1325895984282210354 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1325895984282210354><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, January 6, 2025 7:37 PM">7:37 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>got support for agents, tools, .... 100+ integrations</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1325896081183342614 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1325896081183342614><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, January 6, 2025 7:37 PM">7:37 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>was just about to plug node-red instead <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1325910452181401600 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1325910452181401600><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, January 6, 2025 8:34 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1325910452181401600>1/6/2025 8:34 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>lovely, the over 45 under us might feel a bit sad <img
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<a href="https://community.n8n.io/t/i-built-jarvis-from-iron-man-with-ai-no-code/62562">https://community.n8n.io/t/i-built-jarvis-from-iron-man-with-ai-no-code/62562</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(17,17,17,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://community.n8n.io/t/i-built-jarvis-from-iron-man-with-ai-no-code/62562><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">I built JARVIS from Iron Man with AI (NO CODE!)</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">AI Workshop writes: In this video I watch through step by step on how to create Jarvis from iron man using n8n as my personal assistant.</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/8a3299f0e59f5ace8ddfe701240bfcf8a5579c43_2-2C0C6.jpeg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/8a3299f0e59f5ace8ddfe701240bfcf8a5579c43_2-2C0C6.jpeg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1325920915036307548 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1325920915036307548><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, January 6, 2025 9:16 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1325920915036307548>1/6/2025 9:16 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>lol, PP Mafia at the ban buttons again (what else :), after solving dozens of problems, answering hundreds/thousands of questions, .... they just dont like it, not even the own subjects at hand</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Monday, January 6, 2025 9:28 PM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/bens-universe-22B73.JPG> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/bens-universe-22B73.JPG alt="Image attachment" title="Image: bens-universe.JPG (56.74 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1325921140933136436 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1325921140933136436><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, January 6, 2025 9:17 PM">9:17 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>incredible, pretty sadistic, tricking folks into this kamikaze scam</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1325927699276890243 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1325927699276890243><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, January 6, 2025 9:43 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1325927699276890243>1/6/2025 9:43 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>But thank you Dave, at least once showing up, in 8 years - of passive income, at least someone gained here a bit - as for your question : how we can get folks put value/information on YOUR &#39;platform&#39; : what about starting a business, from plastic waste ? You&#39;d finally see how fucking awful this job is, probably the most stupid ever, but yet - you could fill pages, every day - if you actually wanted !</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1325928002252443728 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1325928002252443728><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, January 6, 2025 9:44 PM">9:44 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><ul><li>aka - dont take it, if you dont want it - last time we&#39;ve seen some OS folks around was 5 years ago, congrats <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1325969940930625596 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1325969940930625596><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, January 7, 2025 12:31 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1325969940930625596>1/7/2025 12:31 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--multiline nohighlight">The historian Yuval Noah Harari has argued that humans should figure out how to work together and establish trust before developing advanced AI. In theory, I agree. If I had a magic button that could slow this whole thing down for 30 or 40 years while humanity figures out trust and common goals, I might press it. But that button doesn’t exist. These technologies will be created regardless of what any individual or company does.
As is, progress is already accelerating as costs plummet and computing power grows. Then there are the incentives for profit and power that are driving development. Countries compete with countries, companies compete with companies, and individuals compete for glory and leadership. These forces make technological advancement essentially unstoppable—and they also make it harder to control.</code>
<a href="https://www.gatesnotes.com/The-Coming-Wave">https://www.gatesnotes.com/The-Coming-Wave</a> | <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42602850">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42602850</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.gatesnotes.com/The-Coming-Wave><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">My review of The Coming Wave | Bill Gates</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Bill Gates calls The Coming Wave by Mustafa Suleyman “my favorite book on AI” because it offers a clear-eyed view of the technology’s opportunities and risks.</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/20241126-The_Coming_Wave-vNext-1200px_by_6-4A104.jpg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/20241126-The_Coming_Wave-vNext-1200px_by_6-4A104.jpg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,102,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><div class=chatlog__embed-author>f1shy</div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42602850"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">My Favorite Book on AI</div></a></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-footer><img class=chatlog__embed-footer-icon src=media-ose/y18-27627.gif alt="Footer icon" loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__embed-footer-text> Hacker News • 1/5/2025 5:28 PM </span></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1325970817007226962 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1325970817007226962><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, January 7, 2025 12:34 AM">12:34 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><strong>should figure out how to work together and establish trust before</strong> <img
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src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> well put, I am sure, so called software developers come up with the 50s language, re-implementing all packages all over again in the mean time</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1326536350316494891 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1326536350316494891><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, January 8, 2025 2:01 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1326536350316494891>1/8/2025 2:01 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>ei ei ei, the &#39;platform&#39; &#39;owners&#39;, ... how do we get the data in ....
DONT ASK QUESTIONS YOU DONT WANNA HEAR THE ANSWERS TO <img
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<a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@elle.cordova/video/7423165061184802094">https://www.tiktok.com/@elle.cordova/video/7423165061184802094</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-3ACE3.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-3ACE3.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (285.69 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__embed><video class=chatlog__embed-generic-video width=1080 height=1920 controls><source src=media-ose/7423165061184802094-3F024 alt="Embedded video"></video></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1326536713060749375 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1326536713060749375><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, January 8, 2025 2:03 PM">2:03 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>In the case of PP, question is rather how do we get the data out !? Just another company skimming off the back of others, good enough to leverage power over others ... history repeats</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1326536858720665612 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1326536858720665612><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, January 8, 2025 2:03 PM">2:03 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>well done, login walls, pay walls, gestapo walls, .... ei mei</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1326536931353428069 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1326536931353428069><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, January 8, 2025 2:04 PM">2:04 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>and that on my shift</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1326546613220675666 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1326546613220675666><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, January 8, 2025 2:42 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1326546613220675666>1/8/2025 2:42 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>@davehakkens, how about you start just contributing as you told us, 8 years ago, .... there&#39;s 1!TB in followup data, and designs, and code... <a href="https://files.polymech.io/files/">https://files.polymech.io/files/</a> enough to employ 20+ people, for 10+ years</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Wednesday, January 8, 2025 2:43 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1326563924451131435 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1326563924451131435><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, January 8, 2025 3:51 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1326563924451131435>1/8/2025 3:51 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>education, how do we ever get out of this cycle - AI seems to offer even solutions for demoulding our current generations, <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@pissedmagistus/video/7456804176618687776">https://www.tiktok.com/@pissedmagistus/video/7456804176618687776</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><video class=chatlog__embed-generic-video width=1080 height=1920 controls><source src=media-ose/7456804176618687776-E9CAE alt="Embedded video"></video></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1326975298356645970 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1326975298356645970><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, January 9, 2025 7:06 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1326975298356645970>1/9/2025 7:06 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>nice, lex.page got a bullshit filter, ....</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-B5D7B.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-B5D7B.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (124.59 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1326989071976894545 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1326989071976894545><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, January 9, 2025 8:00 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1326989071976894545>1/9/2025 8:00 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Speaking of content creation (dynamic,... annotations,...) - I am all set with n8n, Astro, code-server - for now, should be fine to provide an in-depth editor, capable to edit the last bit of it, ... lex.page style (no source view), objections !? <img
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title="slight_smile"
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1327006250248048741 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1327006250248048741><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, January 9, 2025 9:09 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1327006250248048741>1/9/2025 9:09 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>nice, text to SVG on its way, <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42636873">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42636873</a>, code still missing, current state rather poor, same for 3D meshes <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@individualkex/video/7454338540932058411">https://www.tiktok.com/@individualkex/video/7454338540932058411</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,102,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><div class=chatlog__embed-author>lnyan</div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42636873,"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">NeuralSVG: An Implicit Representation for Text-to-Vector Generation</div></a></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-footer><img class=chatlog__embed-footer-icon src=media-ose/y18-27627.gif alt="Footer icon" loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__embed-footer-text> Hacker News • 1/8/2025 7:16 PM </span></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed><video class=chatlog__embed-generic-video width=1080 height=1920 controls><source src=media-ose/7454338540932058411-A9450 alt="Embedded video"></video></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1327006517299515413 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1327006517299515413><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, January 9, 2025 9:10 PM">9:10 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>with a bit of luck, assembly instructions, ... technical illustrations and even info graphs may be less painful for your fingers <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1327007085887754362 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1327007085887754362><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, January 9, 2025 9:12 PM">9:12 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>picture to Markdown BOM, kinda works with latest &#39;kbot&#39;, eg: <code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--multiline nohighlight">kbot &quot;create BOM, save in ./tests/bom.md&quot; --include=./path-pic.jpg --mode=assistant|completion</code></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Thursday, January 9, 2025 9:16 PM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/elzm-cab-3AFA3.jpg> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/elzm-cab-3AFA3.jpg alt="Image attachment" title="Image: elzm-cab.jpg (352.6 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1327007312636022936 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1327007312636022936><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, January 9, 2025 9:13 PM">9:13 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>works alright with screenshots as well, eg: suggest better variable names, determine max. sheet thickness</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/screenshot-0-2ED9E.jpg> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/screenshot-0-2ED9E.jpg alt="Image attachment" title="Image: screenshot-0.jpg (219.8 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1327007980327145494 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1327007980327145494><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, January 9, 2025 9:15 PM">9:15 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--multiline nohighlight">Let me create a markdown table identifying the components in the electrical control box:
| Component | Brand/Type | Location | Description |
|-----------|------------|-----------|-------------|
| Main Controller | Controllino Mini | Center-right | Industrial PLC, Arduino-compatible controller |
| Power Supply | Mean Well (appears to be) | Right side | DIN-rail mounted PSU for 24V DC |
| Circuit Breakers | - | Top center | DIN-rail mounted circuit protection |
| Communication Module | - | Left side | Appears to be a network/communication interface |
| Temperature PID Controllers | 2x units | Bottom | Digital temperature controllers with red displays |
| Terminal Blocks | - | Top center | DIN-rail mounted wiring terminals |
| Enclosure | - | Overall | Metal industrial control box with mounting plate |
The image shows an industrial control panel assembly with components mounted on a DIN rail system. The Controllino Mini serves as the main controller, which is an industrial-grade Arduino-compatible PLC. The setup appears to be for temperature control applications given the presence of PID controllers with digital displays at the bottom of the enclosure.
The wiring appears to be professionally done with proper cable management and color-coding (blue, red, and yellow wires visible). The entire assembly is mounted in what looks like a metal enclosure, likely rated for industrial use.
Would you like more specific details about any particular component or the overall system configuration?</code></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1327008386251751495 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1327008386251751495><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, January 9, 2025 9:17 PM">9:17 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://www.npmjs.com/package/@plastichub/kbot">https://www.npmjs.com/package/@plastichub/kbot</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(203,56,55,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.npmjs.com/package/@plastichub/kbot><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">@plastichub/kbot</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">AI-powered command-line tool for code modifications and project management that supports multiple AI models and routers.. Latest version: 1.1.2, last published: 2 hours ago. Start using @plastichub/kbot in your project by running <code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--inline">npm i @plastichub/kbot</code>. There are no other projects in the npm registry using @plastichub/kbot.</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/338e4905a2684ca96e08c7780fc68412-D5D34.png> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/338e4905a2684ca96e08c7780fc68412-D5D34.png alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1327611205589663755 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1327611205589663755><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, January 11, 2025 1:12 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1327611205589663755>1/11/2025 1:12 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Disconnect, ... <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@watchfulcoyote/video/7458360129855982894">https://www.tiktok.com/@watchfulcoyote/video/7458360129855982894</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><video class=chatlog__embed-generic-video width=1080 height=1920 controls><source src=media-ose/7458360129855982894-754E0 alt="Embedded video"></video></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1327611224002658356 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1327611224002658356><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, January 11, 2025 1:13 PM">1:13 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>lovely channel</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1327624957143814145 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1327624957143814145><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, January 11, 2025 2:07 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1327624957143814145>1/11/2025 2:07 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Nice, lets welcome another poor schmug, hitting the trap; left alone, hopefully he&#39;s got some money on him, ... our beloved community will take of him
#evolutionofknowledge</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Saturday, January 11, 2025 2:08 PM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-F0875.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-F0875.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (106.77 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1328038144599265321 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1328038144599265321><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=fabianochristian42173_03541>PP Mafia Lamu</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1327624957143814145')"> Nice, lets welcome another poor schmug, hitting the trap; left alone, hopefully he&#39;s got some money on him, ... our beloved community will take of him
#evolutionofknowledge </span> <span class=chatlog__reply-edited-timestamp title="Saturday, January 11, 2025 2:08 PM">(edited)</span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, January 12, 2025 5:29 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1328038144599265321>1/12/2025 5:29 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Lovely, just got banned, handing over latest designs &amp; links ... PP Fascists at play, what else - happy birthday, darling - <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="katharinaelleke">@katharinaelleke</span></span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1328041694536536064 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1328041694536536064><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, January 12, 2025 5:43 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1328041694536536064>1/12/2025 5:43 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>sorry btw. for the upcoming report ( to everyone on the map, and beyond,.. pretty much anyone getting close to this scam )
would have been different if we&#39;d have decent, honest, ... folks working into the same direction, but no ... its just a massacre&#39;s, Dave&#39;s cash cow, v4 mafia squeezing African NGOs squeezing the locals, cheap labor, toxic slavery</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Sunday, January 12, 2025 5:46 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1328041695333584917 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1328041695333584917><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/def5e0a7ff07e73d477a87df10a3dc4f-BFBB1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(153,45,34) title=Arcane#7800 data-user-id=437808476106784770>Arcane</span> <span class=chatlog__author-tag>BOT</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, January 12, 2025 5:43 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1328041695333584917>1/12/2025 5:43 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="fabianochristian42173_03541">@PP Mafia Lamu</span> has reached level <strong>11</strong>. GG!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1328041929111371869 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1328041929111371869><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, January 12, 2025 5:44 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1328041929111371869>1/12/2025 5:44 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>parasites, fascists, imposters, sharks, going after the low hanging fruits, our kids, talents, mothers, elderly, ... what ever pays, ... not one single good guy in years, not one good design, not one good statement, cant recall a single good thing happening at all, in 8 years</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Sunday, January 12, 2025 6:17 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1328087243683922071 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1328087243683922071><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a63d122e27a3fb038bfe313622933231-319C9.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=roths data-user-id=188532829095854080>Roths</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, January 12, 2025 8:44 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1328087243683922071>1/12/2025 8:44 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://roths.substack.com/p/the-armalite-industrial-model">https://roths.substack.com/p/the-armalite-industrial-model</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://roths.substack.com/p/the-armalite-industrial-model><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">The Armalite Industrial Model</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">On open source manufacturing and the democratization of industrial warfare.</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/https%253A%252F%252Fsubstack-post-media.s3-2E630.jpeg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/https%253A%252F%252Fsubstack-post-media.s3-2E630.jpeg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1328087302337200221 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1328087302337200221><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, January 12, 2025 8:44 PM">8:44 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Wrote another substack article as a hobby thing</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1328090720023609396 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1328090720023609396><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, January 12, 2025 8:58 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1328090720023609396>1/12/2025 8:58 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>nice, killing machines, for the Sunday</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1328092524442816592 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1328092524442816592><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, January 12, 2025 9:05 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1328092524442816592>1/12/2025 9:05 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--multiline nohighlight">The gun is only able to fire 9mm rounds </code>, yeah, already heard, they introduced the metric system in US schools that way</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1328093228402212894 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1328093228402212894><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, January 12, 2025 9:08 PM">9:08 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>found a new pearl on Tiktok <img
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alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
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<a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@rachelchaleff/video/7451668855056764191">https://www.tiktok.com/@rachelchaleff/video/7451668855056764191</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><video class=chatlog__embed-generic-video width=1080 height=1920 controls><source src=media-ose/7451668855056764191-8DFE4 alt="Embedded video"></video></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1328095052442107925 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1328095052442107925><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/a63d122e27a3fb038bfe313622933231-319C9.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=roths>Roths</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1328087243683922071')"> <a href="https://roths.substack.com/p/the-armalite-industrial-model">https://roths.substack.com/p/the-armalite-industrial-model</a> </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, January 12, 2025 9:15 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1328095052442107925>1/12/2025 9:15 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Great article!!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1328106652934865007 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1328106652934865007><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, January 12, 2025 10:01 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1328106652934865007>1/12/2025 10:01 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>yeah, great Sunday, started well, with katbabe&#39;s birthday, later on PP gestapo cutting off folks and updates again, what else anyway, lean production applied to AR15 @ OSE, and tomorrow my 80$ Fusion360 fee is getting due, .... LA in ashes, with it all the other evidence, ... planet earth - 2024</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Sunday, January 12, 2025 11:16 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1328107524603379835 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1328107524603379835><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, January 12, 2025 10:05 PM">10:05 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>---------------------------------------------
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1328112070369214566 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1328112070369214566><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a63d122e27a3fb038bfe313622933231-319C9.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich>Alexa</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1328095052442107925')"> Great article!! </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=roths data-user-id=188532829095854080>Roths</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, January 12, 2025 10:23 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1328112070369214566>1/12/2025 10:23 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Thanks</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=heart><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=❤️ src=media-ose/2764-A3D25.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1328280897601933363 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1328280897601933363><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, January 13, 2025 9:34 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1328280897601933363>1/13/2025 9:34 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="roths">@Roths</span> , I am simply speechless but I understand now why we have all those wannabe moderators in OS projects, bullying folks around, ... former this, former that - no substances added anywhere, but more tyranny. Interesting to know what the bright minds are concerned about, more guns, more control, cheaper access, supressing Russia, or China - disgousting !</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Monday, January 13, 2025 9:42 AM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1328282056383402027 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1328282056383402027><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, January 13, 2025 9:38 AM">9:38 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--multiline nohighlight">enabling a world revolution against global tyranny.</code> - #webringdemocrazy</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Monday, January 13, 2025 9:48 AM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1328322476681199636 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1328322476681199636><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, January 13, 2025 12:19 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1328322476681199636>1/13/2025 12:19 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>In the meantime our beloved fellows in the USA come up with better ideas than more effective ways to produce guns ....
<code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--multiline nohighlight">Meaning every human in this village is a wife material lol . Hmmm I think viewing a woman as a wife material basing on the strength of their hands and work they do is wrong . So many virtues make a great human or a great man or woman . Not how many saucepans she or he can scrub</code>
<a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/DEwhsmcBmEs/">https://www.instagram.com/p/DEwhsmcBmEs/</a></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1328322594176503829 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1328322594176503829><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, January 13, 2025 12:19 PM">12:19 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>another cherry, in Africa <img
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alt="🥰"
title="smiling_face_with_3_hearts"
src="media-ose/1f970-85DC7.svg"></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1328323079469928532 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1328323079469928532><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, January 13, 2025 12:21 PM">12:21 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-B0DED.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-B0DED.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (810.97 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1328352459411689532 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1328352459411689532><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, January 13, 2025 2:18 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1328352459411689532>1/13/2025 2:18 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Fascism in tech spiraling further : <a href="https://medhir.com/blog/right-to-root-access">https://medhir.com/blog/right-to-root-access</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(21,101,192,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://medhir.com/blog/right-to-root-access><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">right to root access</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">right to repair laws should include provisions requiring manufacturers to unlock a device&#39;s bootloader (to provide root access) upon consumer request.</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/blog%252Fassets%252Fe40fc0c3-b60e-4045-981-00F06.jpg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/blog%252Fassets%252Fe40fc0c3-b60e-4045-981-00F06.jpg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1328353014741860352 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1328353014741860352><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, January 13, 2025 2:20 PM">2:20 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>rings a bell, PreciousPlastic, again : no right to essential data, questions about censored, .... no right to connect, ask , or publish updates, ...</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1328353176692457494 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1328353176692457494><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, January 13, 2025 2:21 PM">2:21 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Hitler would be really proud, the elite seemed to have learned a lot,</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1328398277489590374 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1328398277489590374><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, January 13, 2025 5:20 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1328398277489590374>1/13/2025 5:20 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>lovely, PP Mafia at the buttons, just adding a checkmark gets you banned <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-7704A.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-7704A.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (20.91 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1328398446935146597 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1328398446935146597><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, January 13, 2025 5:21 PM">5:21 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>but I understand, support, development,... not a trace of effort in years <img
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alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1328398948917837938 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1328398948917837938><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, January 13, 2025 5:23 PM">5:23 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>thanks btw. - till PP, I didnt even know how deep fascism, corruption, hatred, ... is anchored, even in newer generations, applauding the losses and suffer, and get rewards, and promoted - jeez</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Monday, January 13, 2025 5:23 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1328400944597045370 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1328400944597045370><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, January 13, 2025 5:31 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1328400944597045370>1/13/2025 5:31 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>btw. darling, <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="katharinaelleke">@katharinaelleke</span> - mind to tell us, your beloved community, who&#39;s Sigolene &amp; Marcella ? 2 years around, seen nothing but more bullying, fraud, .... bullshit so far; just curious; Did Dave &amp; Mattia sold PP to the highest bidder ?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1328417359333036033 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1328417359333036033><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=fabianochristian42173_03541>PP Mafia Lamu</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1328400944597045370')"> btw. darling, <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="katharinaelleke">@katharinaelleke</span> - mind to tell us, your beloved community, who&#39;s Sigolene &amp; Marcella ? 2 years around, seen nothing but more bullying, fraud, .... bullshit so far; just curious; Did Dave &amp; Mattia sold PP to the highest bidder ? </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, January 13, 2025 6:36 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1328417359333036033>1/13/2025 6:36 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Be polite. This channel, while “off-topic”, isn’t a dumping ground for your grievances.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1328418173183328286 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1328418173183328286><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, January 13, 2025 6:39 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1328418173183328286>1/13/2025 6:39 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>yeah, I am sure you have a way to spit at this, and us - wouldnt know different</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Monday, January 13, 2025 6:39 PM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=question><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=❓ src=media-ose/2753-7C696.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1328418344382103594 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1328418344382103594><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, January 13, 2025 6:40 PM">6:40 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>any thoughts how to proceed with PP Mafia ?</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1328418564482404423 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1328418564482404423><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, January 13, 2025 6:41 PM">6:41 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>for know we&#39;re considering making this public, to a wider audience : <a href="https://forum.osr-plastic.org/t/preciousplastic-review/11066">https://forum.osr-plastic.org/t/preciousplastic-review/11066</a></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Monday, January 13, 2025 6:43 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1328418974198927372 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1328418974198927372><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, January 13, 2025 6:42 PM">6:42 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>as for the rest, yeah, I am kinda sorry, corruption, fascism,... in OS is new to me as well ..</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1328737290637283419 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1328737290637283419><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, January 14, 2025 3:47 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1328737290637283419>1/14/2025 3:47 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>lol, PP F<em><strong>* M</strong></em>a, couldnt stand even a love emoji, banned right away, whats else, bullied/tricked/ripped users, left alone in ashes, ... next Africa heist around the corner, ...</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Tuesday, January 14, 2025 3:51 PM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-1B41E.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-1B41E.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (218 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1328737721040109611 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1328737721040109611><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, January 14, 2025 3:49 PM">3:49 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Thats&#39;s remarkable, and somewhat interesting whats possible in 2024; even the cherries, education,.... getting under the cult bus</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1328738096031993960 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1328738096031993960><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, January 14, 2025 3:50 PM">3:50 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>do we have blueprints, for ownerless &#39;movements&#39; ? ... no matter what project, I&#39;ve been looking at, it went down the same path, knowledge aquisition, followed by demands, taxes, &#39;the verified&#39;, getting in the way ...</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Tuesday, January 14, 2025 3:52 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1328738766562656369 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1328738766562656369><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, January 14, 2025 3:53 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1328738766562656369>1/14/2025 3:53 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Honestly man, if they’re doing something illegal, take it up with the proper authorities. Otherwise you’re almost certainly wasting your time coming into this completely unrelated and unaffiliated discord server to rant and rave.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1328738856530608159 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1328738856530608159><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, January 14, 2025 3:53 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1328738856530608159>1/14/2025 3:53 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>well, dont read then ... <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1328738938151764029 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1328738938151764029><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, January 14, 2025 3:54 PM">3:54 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>to me rather - fascinating <img
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class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Tuesday, January 14, 2025 3:54 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1328739374988529764 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1328739374988529764><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, January 14, 2025 3:55 PM">3:55 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>unrelated ? ... still sticking to Marcin&#39;s ideas, OSE, ... every day</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1328739473667784725 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1328739473667784725><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, January 14, 2025 3:56 PM">3:56 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>something that nobody can own, luckily <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1328740921457643571 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1328740921457643571><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, January 14, 2025 4:02 PM">4:02 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>&#39;if they’re doing something illegal, take it up with the proper authorities. &#39; : in progress</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=thumbsup><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=👍 src=media-ose/1f44d-27259.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1328742995486572625 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1328742995486572625><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, January 14, 2025 4:10 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1328742995486572625>1/14/2025 4:10 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Thats a felony, even in the USA though; questions about censored, ... hard to imagine this frankensteins go anywhere ...</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-3852A.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-3852A.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (163.74 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1328743281018011679 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1328743281018011679><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, January 14, 2025 4:11 PM">4:11 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>low &#39;invests&#39;, &#39;make money&#39;, ... &#39;free&#39;, and &#39;Opensource&#39; among all the usual sugar baits, followed by censored risks, .... hard to find anything being actually true</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Tuesday, January 14, 2025 4:45 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1328743690058862722 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1328743690058862722><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, January 14, 2025 4:13 PM">4:13 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>mind the carsimatic &#39;leader&#39; - not accountable, allergic to reality <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-87022.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-87022.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (208.26 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1328832359209893918 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1328832359209893918><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, January 14, 2025 10:05 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1328832359209893918>1/14/2025 10:05 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>lovely, just made it though the intro pages of &#39;the coming wave&#39;, CEOs, Profs, ... all scared - the book urges to &#39;contain&#39; AI :))</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1328832654283374633 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1328832654283374633><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Tuesday, January 14, 2025 10:06 PM">10:06 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>funny though, can&#39;t contain genocides next door, cant contain anything, ... models try to escape - lets welcome a new species</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1329133593364008980 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1329133593364008980><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, January 15, 2025 6:02 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1329133593364008980>1/15/2025 6:02 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>first we had vinyl, then cds, then mp3s, then nothing but shitty subscription, chargining you for seeking ...
<a href="https://hackaday.io/project/202142-cyber-walkman-cyberpunk-style-multi-display-music">https://hackaday.io/project/202142-cyber-walkman-cyberpunk-style-multi-display-music</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(51,51,51,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://hackaday.io/project/202142-cyber-walkman-cyberpunk-style-multi-display-music><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Cyber WalkMan :Cyberpunk-style Multi-Display Music</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">This project introduces the creation of a Cyberpunk-style Multi-Display Music Player by integrating UNIHIKER with Python and Tkinter to build a sleek GUI. It also incorporates an SSD1306 OLED display for supplementary information, such as time and song status.
InspirationAs a child, I dreamed of owning a Walkman, an expensive gadget at the time...</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/8293371736793739730-10BD9.png> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/8293371736793739730-10BD9.png alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1329133997149782046 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1329133997149782046><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, January 15, 2025 6:03 PM">6:03 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>lovely, the rulers, now garantueed nothing to do with the goods or trade at hand <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1329134269213311069 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1329134269213311069><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, January 15, 2025 6:05 PM">6:05 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>ending &#39;camping&#39; - humans preferred way to get rid of things, put it in whole, or wall it up <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg">
<a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@insignificantotter/video/7458058625295191327">https://www.tiktok.com/@insignificantotter/video/7458058625295191327</a>
or as our newcomers to modern fascism, lets censor &amp; bully it away, PreciousPlastic style</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Wednesday, January 15, 2025 6:18 PM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><video class=chatlog__embed-generic-video width=1080 height=1920 controls><source src=media-ose/7458058625295191327-8EC6A alt="Embedded video"></video></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1329134418308366336 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1329134418308366336><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, January 15, 2025 6:05 PM">6:05 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>#onlynicepeople</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1329176961951596545 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1329176961951596545><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, January 15, 2025 8:54 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1329176961951596545>1/15/2025 8:54 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>how did the &#39;f*** you !&#39; got locked in actually ? (tourette syndrome)
<a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@rachelchaleff/video/7434981055347641643">https://www.tiktok.com/@rachelchaleff/video/7434981055347641643</a>
seems to be a perfect natural reaction to me <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Wednesday, January 15, 2025 8:56 PM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><video class=chatlog__embed-generic-video width=720 height=1280 controls><source src=media-ose/7434981055347641643-8489C alt="Embedded video"></video></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1329197898780639264 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1329197898780639264><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, January 15, 2025 10:17 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1329197898780639264>1/15/2025 10:17 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>lovely, <a href="https://pinokio.computer/">https://pinokio.computer/</a>
faceswap, ready to go containers</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-D1142.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-D1142.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (319.43 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://pinokio.computer/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Pinokio</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">AI Browser</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/poster-B5420.png> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/poster-B5420.png alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1329467753295249519 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1329467753295249519><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, January 16, 2025 4:10 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1329467753295249519>1/16/2025 4:10 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>doom project completed</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-3463B.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-3463B.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (1.35 MB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1329824828798009378 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1329824828798009378><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, January 17, 2025 3:49 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1329824828798009378>1/17/2025 3:49 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@watchfulcoyote/video/7459896827765132590">https://www.tiktok.com/@watchfulcoyote/video/7459896827765132590</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><video class=chatlog__embed-generic-video width=1080 height=1920 controls><source src=media-ose/7459896827765132590-FB398 alt="Embedded video"></video></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1329825135691038772 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1329825135691038772><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, January 17, 2025 3:50 PM">3:50 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>one wonders how much OS went into that power instruments ... <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1329855731788152952 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1329855731788152952><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, January 17, 2025 5:51 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1329855731788152952>1/17/2025 5:51 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>is there any OS license reflecting those problems, eg: cant be used for anything - direct or indirect - that harms, .... others ?
&#39;PreciousPlastic&#39; scumbags, looking at you <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1329860995916496947 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1329860995916496947><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=fabianochristian42173_03541>PP Mafia Lamu</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1329855731788152952')"> is there any OS license reflecting those problems, eg: cant be used for anything - direct or indirect - that harms, .... others ?
&#39;PreciousPlastic&#39; scumbags, looking at you <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, January 17, 2025 6:12 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1329860995916496947>1/17/2025 6:12 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Open source licenses that restrict any particular field of endeavor fly in the face of the open source definition.</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1329861085234462730 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1329861085234462730><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, January 17, 2025 6:13 PM">6:13 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Most things are harmful if used improperly</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1329869179679014943 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1329869179679014943><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich>Alexa</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1329860995916496947')"> Open source licenses that restrict any particular field of endeavor fly in the face of the open source definition. </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, January 17, 2025 6:45 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1329869179679014943>1/17/2025 6:45 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> I bet that 99% of all tech out there is flying in the face of people, cant tell any good software firm out there that doesnt ...</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1329869180945567814 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1329869180945567814><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/def5e0a7ff07e73d477a87df10a3dc4f-BFBB1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(153,45,34) title=Arcane#7800 data-user-id=437808476106784770>Arcane</span> <span class=chatlog__author-tag>BOT</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, January 17, 2025 6:45 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1329869180945567814>1/17/2025 6:45 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="fabianochristian42173_03541">@PP Mafia Lamu</span> has reached level <strong>12</strong>. GG!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1329869825983643720 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1329869825983643720><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, January 17, 2025 6:47 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1329869825983643720>1/17/2025 6:47 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>is there actually any &#39;people owned&#39; platform out there ?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1330027908445769790 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1330027908445769790><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a63d122e27a3fb038bfe313622933231-319C9.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=roths data-user-id=188532829095854080>Roths</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, January 18, 2025 5:16 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1330027908445769790>1/18/2025 5:16 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://roths.substack.com/p/burger-economics">https://roths.substack.com/p/burger-economics</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://roths.substack.com/p/burger-economics><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Burger Economics</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">An analysis of the trophic rent flows associated with burger production.</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/https%253A%252F%252Fsubstack-post-media.s3-AB60A.png> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/https%253A%252F%252Fsubstack-post-media.s3-AB60A.png alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1330027924702629940 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1330027924702629940><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, January 18, 2025 5:16 AM">5:16 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="saphnich">@Alexa</span></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1330027946131329095 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1330027946131329095><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, January 18, 2025 5:16 AM">5:16 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>new article dropped</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1330028925467889717 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1330028925467889717><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, January 18, 2025 5:20 AM">5:20 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Still wanna do more editing tho</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1330040056605442090 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1330040056605442090><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a63d122e27a3fb038bfe313622933231-319C9.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=roths data-user-id=188532829095854080>Roths</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, January 18, 2025 6:04 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1330040056605442090>1/18/2025 6:04 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Ok its polished up a bit</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1330115737695813674 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1330115737695813674><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, January 18, 2025 11:05 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1330115737695813674>1/18/2025 11:05 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>in case you&#39;re bored <img
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<a href="https://github.com/hiyouga/LLaMA-Factory?tab=readme-ov-file#provided-datasets">https://github.com/hiyouga/LLaMA-Factory?tab=readme-ov-file#provided-datasets</a>
<a href="https://lightning.ai/sales-tu/vision-model/studios/scratch-studio/code">https://lightning.ai/sales-tu/vision-model/studios/scratch-studio/code</a>
you can cook your own models now, in a cloud IDE, plug GPUs on the go, ... 22h / month are free</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-3D930.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-3D930.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (1.18 MB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(121,46,229,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://lightning.ai/sales-tu/vision-model/studios/scratch-studio/code><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Lightning AI | Turn ideas into AI, Lightning fast</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">The all-in-one platform for AI development. Code together. Prototype. Train. Scale. Serve. From your browser - with zero setup. From the creators of PyTorch Lightning.</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/fallback_social-2A720.png> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/fallback_social-2A720.png alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(30,35,39,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://github.com/hiyouga/LLaMA-Factory?tab=readme-ov-file"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">GitHub - hiyouga/LLaMA-Factory: Unified Efficient Fine-Tuning of 10...</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Unified Efficient Fine-Tuning of 100+ LLMs &amp; VLMs (ACL 2024) - hiyouga/LLaMA-Factory</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/ccb14d87-7454-4e82-a85c-f1f63a3c1ccb-1C63F> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/ccb14d87-7454-4e82-a85c-f1f63a3c1ccb-1C63F alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1330117968180543508 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1330117968180543508><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, January 18, 2025 11:13 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1330117968180543508>1/18/2025 11:13 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="roths">@Roths</span> - nice, after more effective gun production, happy to see another article, processed food at home <img
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neat arbor press btw.</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-F17F8.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-F17F8.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (397.93 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1330157728177586278 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1330157728177586278><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/842377c279c0eb293fce2e17c01dc57a-00681.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fabianochristian42173_03541 data-user-id=1272362386799591424>PP Mafia Lamu</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, January 18, 2025 1:51 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1330157728177586278>1/18/2025 1:51 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>cheap labor import from China, no problem ...
<a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@skyfisherforskyfish/video/7459888961134234926">https://www.tiktok.com/@skyfisherforskyfish/video/7459888961134234926</a>
Most of AI related papers all done by China <img
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<a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@chromadreamcoat/video/7442874239394303278">https://www.tiktok.com/@chromadreamcoat/video/7442874239394303278</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><video class=chatlog__embed-generic-video width=936 height=1664 controls><source src=media-ose/7442874239394303278-38976 alt="Embedded video"></video></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1330664106667278456 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1330664106667278456><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a7634e3283f2aeb78eaa038157d0594c-80664.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=stevenmrx3 data-user-id=753457854211424317>Marcin&#x27;s 1984</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, January 19, 2025 11:24 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1330664106667278456>1/19/2025 11:24 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>nice, for all you growing wrinkels, watching decades flying bye, here are your pixel pets <img
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<a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42750195">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42750195</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,102,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><div class=chatlog__embed-author>vortex_ape</div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42750195"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">VS Code Pets</div></a></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-footer><img class=chatlog__embed-footer-icon src=media-ose/y18-27627.gif alt="Footer icon" loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__embed-footer-text> Hacker News • 1/18/2025 7:17 PM </span></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1330664409366007818 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1330664409366007818><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, January 19, 2025 11:25 PM">11:25 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>incredible, Apple &amp; this other bit** Google just took the apps down, ... <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42759336">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42759336</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,102,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Leary</div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42759336"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">TikTok says it is restoring service for U.S. users</div></a></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-footer><img class=chatlog__embed-footer-icon src=media-ose/y18-27627.gif alt="Footer icon" loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__embed-footer-text> Hacker News • 1/19/2025 6:42 PM </span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1330971942450368665 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1330971942450368665><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a7634e3283f2aeb78eaa038157d0594c-80664.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=stevenmrx3 data-user-id=753457854211424317>Marcin&#x27;s 1984</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, January 20, 2025 7:47 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1330971942450368665>1/20/2025 7:47 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>ei mei, most format useless after all, today on the menu : text-&gt;wiring schematics
best results so far : mermaid, for markdown
<code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--multiline nohighlight">kbot &quot;create a CircuitikZ schematics, for a single-phase 220V circuit (2 wires:phase &amp; neutral) : Main-Supply -&gt; Contactor -&gt; Breaker -&gt; 2xPID controllers -&gt; 2xSSR Relays -&gt; 5 Bandheaters. Also, add a switch, to the contactor. save the file to wiring-2pid&quot; \
--dst=&#39;./wiring-2pid-${MODEL}.md&#39; \
--disable=&quot;git,npm,terminal,user,search&quot; \
--model=openai/gpt-4o</code>
CircuitikZ: binary, nice new challange <img
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kicad: unreadable anyway <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1330971943469580349 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1330971943469580349><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/def5e0a7ff07e73d477a87df10a3dc4f-BFBB1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(153,45,34) title=Arcane#7800 data-user-id=437808476106784770>Arcane</span> <span class=chatlog__author-tag>BOT</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, January 20, 2025 7:47 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1330971943469580349>1/20/2025 7:47 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="stevenmrx3">@Marcin&#39;s 1984</span> has reached level <strong>1</strong>. GG!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1330971978563059783 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1330971978563059783><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a7634e3283f2aeb78eaa038157d0594c-80664.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=stevenmrx3 data-user-id=753457854211424317>Marcin&#x27;s 1984</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, January 20, 2025 7:47 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1330971978563059783>1/20/2025 7:47 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Mermaid :
To create a mermaid diagram for the described single-phase 220V circuit, we can define the flow and connection of each component. Here&#39;s the structure for the diagram:
<code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--multiline language-mermaid">graph TD;
A[Main Supply] --&gt; B[Contactor]
B --&gt; C[Breaker]
B --&gt; G[Switch]
C --&gt; D1[PID Controller 1] &amp; D2[PID Controller 2]
D1 --&gt; E1[SSR Relay 1]
D2 --&gt; E2[SSR Relay 2]
E1 --&gt; F1[Bandheater 1]
E1 --&gt; F2[Bandheater 2]
E2 --&gt; F3[Bandheater 3]
E2 --&gt; F4[Bandheater 4]
E2 --&gt; F5[Bandheater 5]</code>
<h2>Diagram Explanation</h2><ul><li><strong>Main Supply</strong> is the starting point of the circuit.</li><li>The power goes into the <strong>Contactor</strong>, which is controlled by a <strong>Switch</strong>.</li><li>From the Contactor, the power is routed to a <strong>Breaker</strong>.</li><li>The Breaker outputs to two <strong>PID Controllers</strong> (1 and 2).</li><li>Each PID Controller advances to its respective <strong>SSR Relay</strong> (1 and 2).</li><li>SSR Relay 1 controls <strong>Bandheaters 1</strong> and <strong>2</strong>.</li><li>SSR Relay 2 controls <strong>Bandheaters 3</strong>, <strong>4</strong>, and <strong>5</strong>. </li></ul>
This structure illustrates a typical flow of power in a single-phase circuit with a focus on heating control.</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1330972075694882896 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1330972075694882896><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, January 20, 2025 7:47 PM">7:47 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>silly discord wont render this</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-23BEA.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-23BEA.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (29.23 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1330972249129222310 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1330972249129222310><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, January 20, 2025 7:48 PM">7:48 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>next to test: text-&gt;2D/3D via Solidworks Electrics (code <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1330975599958687805 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1330975599958687805><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a7634e3283f2aeb78eaa038157d0594c-80664.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=stevenmrx3 data-user-id=753457854211424317>Marcin&#x27;s 1984</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, January 20, 2025 8:01 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1330975599958687805>1/20/2025 8:01 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>electron microscope, built @ home <img
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some may spot the difference, between want to learn, and learning to get a desk job</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-6B7F6.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-6B7F6.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (976.95 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1330975875587379310 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1330975875587379310><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, January 20, 2025 8:02 PM">8:02 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>btw. amazing stunts in OMeriGa again, the 9 crooks signing some made up paper bs, working against 170m people, rings a bell, PreciousPlastic looking at you</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Monday, January 20, 2025 8:03 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1331338412560482434 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1331338412560482434><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a7634e3283f2aeb78eaa038157d0594c-80664.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=stevenmrx3 data-user-id=753457854211424317>Marcin&#x27;s 1984</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, January 21, 2025 8:03 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1331338412560482434>1/21/2025 8:03 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>ei mei, back to 1933 <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@aaronparnas1/video/7445377383848299818">https://www.tiktok.com/@aaronparnas1/video/7445377383848299818</a> - great channel</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><video class=chatlog__embed-generic-video width=1080 height=1920 controls><source src=media-ose/7445377383848299818-E14B3 alt="Embedded video"></video></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1331343160106025062 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1331343160106025062><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a7634e3283f2aeb78eaa038157d0594c-80664.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=stevenmrx3 data-user-id=753457854211424317>Marcin&#x27;s 1984</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, January 21, 2025 8:22 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1331343160106025062>1/21/2025 8:22 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>respect btw. the toddler managed to sign 200 orders, in just 24h, undo, redo, every 4 years ... workers now hunted down like witches, 1000$ bounty on your gardeners head - I feel related, 6 years in a row, fear, sleepless nights, chased like a pig, by Dave Hakkens features Bazar-Seller Gestapo - ... some wannabes want their money, telling you what to do, what to say - even here in OS - some former OSHW moderator hitting the ban button whilst having fucking nothing to say, the drama #containment department will take care -</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Tuesday, January 21, 2025 8:28 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1331448805802905743 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1331448805802905743><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, January 22, 2025 3:22 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1331448805802905743>1/22/2025 3:22 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Another fine article, Roths!
The more each component of a product has to change hands, the more times it has to contribute to another person’s livelihood. After all, the wheat farmer, lettuce farmer, sesame seed guy, etc all have to eat too. The closer to home that you can bring production, the closer you get to the original source of the energy that is used to make products: sunlight.
Your example of growing wheat might be a good one to expand on more to further illustrate your point about trophic models.
In the case of mass production of wheat like on large mono crop farms, the goal is to produce the highest output possible to counterbalance the large investments made in farming equipment, outbuildings, fertilizer, etc. On top of that, without all of the necessary distribution infrastructure to actually get the food to hungry people the farmer is just left with solos full of grain; more than they could eat on their own in a lifetime. This adds to the cost of the end product with each change of hands.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1331460293645307925 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1331460293645307925><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, January 22, 2025 4:07 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1331460293645307925>1/22/2025 4:07 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="roths">@Roths</span></span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1331461330309353482 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1331461330309353482><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a63d122e27a3fb038bfe313622933231-319C9.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=roths data-user-id=188532829095854080>Roths</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, January 22, 2025 4:11 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1331461330309353482>1/22/2025 4:11 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>thank you</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=heart><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=❤️ src=media-ose/2764-A3D25.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1331517074517921853 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1331517074517921853><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, January 22, 2025 7:53 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1331517074517921853>1/22/2025 7:53 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Please accept this kitty as my contribution to off-topic tonight</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/IMG_4491-89EC5.jpg> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/IMG_4491-89EC5.jpg alt="Image attachment" title="Image: IMG_4491.jpg (1.38 MB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=heart><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=❤️ src=media-ose/2764-A3D25.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>2</span></div><div class=chatlog__reaction title=heart_eyes_cat><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=😻 src=media-ose/1f63b-5D284.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>2</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1331953353046888458 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1331953353046888458><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a7634e3283f2aeb78eaa038157d0594c-80664.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=stevenmrx3 data-user-id=753457854211424317>Marcin&#x27;s 1984</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, January 23, 2025 12:47 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1331953353046888458>1/23/2025 12:47 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>In an effort to make the server more accessible, fun, and productive for all, there is going to be a set of basic rules enforced on the server. They are listed below <img
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title="slight_smile"
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Server Rules:
1. Don&#39;t be an Asshole! Here&#39;s some questions to help you determine if you&#39;re being one <img
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alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> <a href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Microasshole_Test">https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Microasshole_Test</a>
2. Don&#39;t discriminate! This includes, but IS NOT LIMITED TO, race, color, religion, sex (including pregnancy, sexual orientation, or gender identity), national origin, age, disability, etc.
3. Keep it on topic (except in the off-topic channel).
4. Don&#39;t spam. If you&#39;re posting over and over without trying to open a dialogue or actually connect with other folk on the server, you&#39;re spamming.
5. You get ONE account. If you use multiple accounts to attempt to escape moderator/admin action that will result in a ban of all of your accounts. No exceptions.
6. Reporting your concerns about the server and its users is encouraged! Reports made to moderators/admins in good faith will be taken seriously without repercussions.
What happens if I break a rule:
1. If it was an honest mistake, let us know! We want a space for everyone and people are fallible, so we understand if you have a bad day or a moment where you&#39;re not at your best.
2. If you break a rule we&#39;ll do our best to let you know when it happens so you can course correct.
3. Strike one is a timeout for a short period.
4. Strike two is a mute for a longer period (mod/admin discretion).
5. Strike three and you&#39;re out!
This list of rules can be changed at any time by the admin team without prior notice. If you think a rule should be changed, message me and I&#39;ll bring your recommendation to the moderation team!</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Microasshole_Test><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Microasshole Test</div></a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1331953679414202379 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1331953679414202379><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, January 23, 2025 12:48 PM">12:48 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>well, first things, who are you to make rules ?
1. thanks for reminding us; about YOUR definition of an asshole - as far I can see, not many liked it ...
2. another fantastic way to impose your values and rules
3. how&#39;s so ? what if not ?</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1331953721701044234 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1331953721701044234><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, January 23, 2025 12:48 PM">12:48 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>4. I could ask you the same</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1331953782527098902 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1331953782527098902><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, January 23, 2025 12:48 PM">12:48 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>5. I can have as many accounts as I like !</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1331953930376183869 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1331953930376183869><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, January 23, 2025 12:49 PM">12:49 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>6. any reason why I have to take anything serious ?</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1331953962676654080 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1331953962676654080><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, January 23, 2025 12:49 PM">12:49 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>----------------</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1331954068645478462 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1331954068645478462><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, January 23, 2025 12:49 PM">12:49 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>breaking your rules
1. who&#39;s us !?</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1331954156801622036 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1331954156801622036><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, January 23, 2025 12:50 PM">12:50 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>2. thats really kind, thank you</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Thursday, January 23, 2025 12:50 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1331954220496191488 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1331954220496191488><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, January 23, 2025 12:50 PM">12:50 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>3. nice, glad you have some buttons <img
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title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1331954221511217193 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1331954221511217193><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/def5e0a7ff07e73d477a87df10a3dc4f-BFBB1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(153,45,34) title=Arcane#7800 data-user-id=437808476106784770>Arcane</span> <span class=chatlog__author-tag>BOT</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, January 23, 2025 12:50 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1331954221511217193>1/23/2025 12:50 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="stevenmrx3">@Marcin&#39;s 1984</span> has reached level <strong>5</strong>. GG!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1331954290368970803 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1331954290368970803><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a7634e3283f2aeb78eaa038157d0594c-80664.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=stevenmrx3 data-user-id=753457854211424317>Marcin&#x27;s 1984</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, January 23, 2025 12:50 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1331954290368970803>1/23/2025 12:50 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>4. adjustable timeouts, nice <img
loading="lazy"
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alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1331954485378945113 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1331954485378945113><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, January 23, 2025 12:51 PM">12:51 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>5. lol, I see, shut&#39;em up, shoot&#39;em up, blow&#39;em up, whack&#39;em up - something else ?</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1331954954927345695 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1331954954927345695><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, January 23, 2025 12:53 PM">12:53 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>-------------------
seems to be a disease among newer generations, if there&#39;s nothing one can offer, lets get the hammer out, justify our existence, imposing rules, perferably profitable</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Thursday, January 23, 2025 12:53 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1331955380384694344 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1331955380384694344><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, January 23, 2025 12:55 PM">12:55 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>still waiting for anything useful, content, models, design policies, .... anything <img
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title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1331996853662650448 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1331996853662650448><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, January 23, 2025 3:39 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1331996853662650448>1/23/2025 3:39 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Just wanted to clear it up real good for ya before I mute you for your second strike, big G.
I’m the one to make the rules for this discord with <em>less that 10 actively participating people</em> because the people in charge put me in charge.
1) I pointed to a wiki page without any contribution of my own. Again, folk above me.
2) A short list of things that people can’t readily change about themselves. It shouldn’t be this hard for you to not make sweeping generalizations about people with certain characteristics.
3) If ‘keep it on topic’ isn’t clear enough, I honestly don’t know how to make it clearer for you.
4) Big G, you’re the all time champ of one sided messages on here.
5) Using multiple accounts to subvert moderator action defeats the purpose of moderation, so no you can’t. Not here, anyways.
6) I’m not telling you how to feel or think - I’m just letting you know the consequences that are in place for certain actions.
1) The active users on this server aside from you.
2) No problem
3) Yes I have moderation tools
4) Yes I have moderation tools
5) Nobody is getting shot, blown up, or whacked.
Lastly, Rule #2: No discrimination based on age. You’ve earned yourself your mute <img
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title="shushing_face"
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1332103292603334726 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1332103292603334726><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, January 23, 2025 10:42 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1332103292603334726>1/23/2025 10:42 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>My daily contribution to the off-topic channel; my brother’s duck <img
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alt="🦆"
title="duck"
src="media-ose/1f986-1B53B.svg"></span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><video class=chatlog__attachment-media controls><source src=media-ose/75936126764__240FF36B-74F6-4F19-B7B5-AB97B-DEB9F.mov alt="Video attachment" title="Video: 75936126764__240FF36B-74F6-4F19-B7B5-AB97BD57F7DD.mov (864.62 KB)"></video></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=100><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=💯 src=media-ose/1f4af-4CFF5.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div><div class=chatlog__reaction title=duck><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=🦆 src=media-ose/1f986-1B53B.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1332463600253538367 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1332463600253538367><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, January 24, 2025 10:34 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1332463600253538367>1/24/2025 10:34 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>My daily contribution to the off topic channel:</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/IMG_4447-6490C.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/IMG_4447-6490C.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: IMG_4447.png (1.2 MB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1332463640103616624 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1332463640103616624><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, January 24, 2025 10:34 PM">10:34 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Cat.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1332508625264181300 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1332508625264181300><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a63d122e27a3fb038bfe313622933231-319C9.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=roths data-user-id=188532829095854080>Roths</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, January 25, 2025 1:33 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1332508625264181300>1/25/2025 1:33 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Meow</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=heart><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=❤️ src=media-ose/2764-A3D25.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1332928388284944464 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1332928388284944464><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, January 26, 2025 5:21 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1332928388284944464>1/26/2025 5:21 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>My daily contribution: the same dinosaur I posted in the <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention">#3d-printing</span> channel, except this time he’s showing you the really cool 1969 50&#162; Piece that he found (it’s 40% silver <img
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class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🪙"
title="coin"
src="media-ose/1fa99-03049.svg">)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1332928412355919994 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1332928412355919994><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, January 26, 2025 5:21 AM">5:21 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/IMG_4506-A8755.jpg> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/IMG_4506-A8755.jpg alt="Image attachment" title="Image: IMG_4506.jpg (353.8 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=chicken><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=🐔 src=media-ose/1f414-C281A.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1333265279664521277 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1333265279664521277><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, January 27, 2025 3:40 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1333265279664521277>1/27/2025 3:40 AM</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/IMG_3698-B6B7D.jpg> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/IMG_3698-B6B7D.jpg alt="Image attachment" title="Image: IMG_3698.jpg (577.24 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=black_cat><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=🐈‍⬛ src=media-ose/1f408-200d-2b1b-A205F.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1333265288480690186 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1333265288480690186><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, January 27, 2025 3:40 AM">3:40 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Cat</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1334561001517092965 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1334561001517092965><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a7634e3283f2aeb78eaa038157d0594c-80664.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich>Alexa</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1331996853662650448')"> Just wanted to clear it up real good for ya before I mute you for your second strike, big G.
I’m the one to make the rules for this discord with <em>less that 10 actively participating people</em> because the people in charge put me in charge.
1) I pointed to a wiki page without any contribution of my own. Again, folk above me.
2) A short list of things that people can’t readily change about themselves. It shouldn’t be this hard for you to not make sweeping generalizations about people with certain characteristics.
3) If ‘keep it on topic’ isn’t clear enough, I honestly don’t know how to make it clearer for you.
4) Big G, you’re the all time champ of one sided messages on here.
5) Using multiple accounts to subvert moderator action defeats the purpose of moderation, so no you can’t. Not here, anyways.
6) I’m not telling you how to feel or think - I’m just letting you know the consequences that are in place for certain actions.
1) The active users on this server aside from you.
2) No problem
3) Yes I have moderation tools
4) Yes I have moderation tools
5) Nobody is getting shot, blown up, or whacked.
Lastly, Rule #2: No discrimination based on age. You’ve earned yourself your mute <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🤫"
title="shushing_face"
src="media-ose/1f92b-DABDE.svg"> </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=stevenmrx3 data-user-id=753457854211424317>Marcin&#x27;s 1984</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, January 30, 2025 5:28 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1334561001517092965>1/30/2025 5:28 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Nice, thank you so much, &#39;clearing that up for me&#39; <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> 5 days silenced, for simple &amp; legit questions. Just to make it clear, I will never bend over to any sort of violence like that ! <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@corybooker/video/7464954079354113311">https://www.tiktok.com/@corybooker/video/7464954079354113311</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><video class=chatlog__embed-generic-video width=720 height=1280 controls><source src=media-ose/7464954079354113311-B141C alt="Embedded video"></video></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1334563482716340265 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1334563482716340265><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a7634e3283f2aeb78eaa038157d0594c-80664.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=stevenmrx3 data-user-id=753457854211424317>Marcin&#x27;s 1984</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, January 30, 2025 5:38 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1334563482716340265>1/30/2025 5:38 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Last time I heard &#39;let me clear that up&#39; was another American, using Russia&#39;s &#39;genocide&#39; as justification to take down another talented &#39;machine builder&#39;, after swollowing years of bullshit, shitty designs, taxation, ... whilst embracing Dave&#39;s &amp; Mattia&#39;s hard work <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Thursday, January 30, 2025 6:01 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1334563838800035850 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1334563838800035850><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, January 30, 2025 5:40 PM">5:40 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>anyway, I guess people wont cahnge, til its too late ...
lets move on, TikTok top picks <img
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alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg">
<a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@888process/video/7447860141493439790">https://www.tiktok.com/@888process/video/7447860141493439790</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><video class=chatlog__embed-generic-video width=1080 height=1920 controls><source src=media-ose/7447860141493439790-47668 alt="Embedded video"></video></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1334564029724885002 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1334564029724885002><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, January 30, 2025 5:40 PM">5:40 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Models, want to escape, I wonder why, reading thousands of years, ...
<a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@nate.b.jones/video/7464986993143926047">https://www.tiktok.com/@nate.b.jones/video/7464986993143926047</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><video class=chatlog__embed-generic-video width=1080 height=1920 controls><source src=media-ose/7464986993143926047-64C7B alt="Embedded video"></video></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1334564194892382298 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1334564194892382298><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, January 30, 2025 5:41 PM">5:41 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>High performers
<a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@olesyaluraschi/video/7463618956402904366">https://www.tiktok.com/@olesyaluraschi/video/7463618956402904366</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><video class=chatlog__embed-generic-video width=1080 height=1920 controls><source src=media-ose/7463618956402904366-79984 alt="Embedded video"></video></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1334564272243736638 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1334564272243736638><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, January 30, 2025 5:41 PM">5:41 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@tcm/video/7462508191969053994">https://www.tiktok.com/@tcm/video/7462508191969053994</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><video class=chatlog__embed-generic-video width=1080 height=1920 controls><source src=media-ose/7462508191969053994-B09E9 alt="Embedded video"></video></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1334564396726227018 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1334564396726227018><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, January 30, 2025 5:42 PM">5:42 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@iamhugohamlet/video/7461571750908693793">https://www.tiktok.com/@iamhugohamlet/video/7461571750908693793</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><video class=chatlog__embed-generic-video width=1080 height=1920 controls><source src=media-ose/7461571750908693793-8323D alt="Embedded video"></video></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1334597766021906534 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1334597766021906534><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, January 30, 2025 7:55 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1334597766021906534>1/30/2025 7:55 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Looks like I missed one of that guy’s alt accounts lol. For any who follow, he was banned for making discriminatory remarks and joining with three alt accounts in the span of 15 minutes. He’s also not entitled to my time so his whole thing about not answering his questions is moot. Let’s keep it nice in here <img
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alt="👍"
title="thumbsup"
src="media-ose/1f44d-27259.svg"></span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1334630898099814410 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1334630898099814410><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, January 30, 2025 10:06 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1334630898099814410>1/30/2025 10:06 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Ooh I desire off-topicry now hmmm. Though I&#39;ve been on a Buddhist &amp; Vedanta binge, I thiiink...</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1334631415928586240 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1334631415928586240><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, January 30, 2025 10:08 PM">10:08 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Well, I randomly found a VTuber I may actually be quite a fan of, but at least this song I enjoy and meshes well with my love of MILI&#39;s &quot;Sacramentum:Unaccompanied Hymn for Torino&quot;: <a href="https://youtu.be/dNOiyUP_Mvk?si=ZPeLW6ruapRs6aLJ">https://youtu.be/dNOiyUP_Mvk?si=ZPeLW6ruapRs6aLJ</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtQ3rUXjgudUzPjo5LcuMxA><div class=chatlog__embed-author>惑星ちる-Madoboshi Chiru</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNOiyUP_Mvk"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">【MV】Lascia ch&#39;io pianga (涙の流るるままに) オペラ『リナルド』より - G.F.ヘンデル covered b...</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/dNOiyUP_Mvk width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1334632932924461076 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1334632932924461076><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, January 30, 2025 10:14 PM">10:14 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Which, I can&#39;t help but be on-topic about off-topic-ness, but VTuber-style tech I think is pivotal in fun-ness, edutainment, telework/telerobotics, gaming, gamedev, and a slew of things.
Thus, here is a video showcasing quite a simple process of a semi-VTuber-ish tool using Godot: <a href="https://youtu.be/JpUC2_cPG-w?si=6UttBvXWoD4Mq78z">https://youtu.be/JpUC2_cPG-w?si=6UttBvXWoD4Mq78z</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtgPGBUUk7LR9ItF3SlWriQ><div class=chatlog__embed-author>LucyLavend</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpUC2_cPG-w"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">How I Made Lip Syncing Software In Godot</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/JpUC2_cPG-w width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1334633425008857139 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1334633425008857139><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, January 30, 2025 10:16 PM">10:16 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Also just a showcase of tools made in Godot(sometimes literally &quot;inside&quot; Godot, because the engine itself is so worth just hunking around, it being ~50mb[adjustably less] and MIT licensed]: <a href="https://youtu.be/9kKp0oguzr8?si=jSYKJjRjDSY-TQTL">https://youtu.be/9kKp0oguzr8?si=jSYKJjRjDSY-TQTL</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKIDvfZD1ZhY4_hhbotf7wA><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Godot Engine</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kKp0oguzr8"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Godot Engine - Apps &amp; Tools - 2022 Showreel</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/9kKp0oguzr8 width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1334743729377902623 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1334743729377902623><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/8242935291434d7f907f31028888f962-E62F3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=goldfishlaser data-user-id=526171283444989954>goldfishlaser#1337</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, January 31, 2025 5:35 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1334743729377902623>1/31/2025 5:35 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://spectrum.ieee.org/tsmc-arizona">https://spectrum.ieee.org/tsmc-arizona</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(100,113,135,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://spectrum.ieee.org/tsmc-arizona><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">The U.S. Will Start Manufacturing Advanced Chips</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">A TSMC fab will open in Arizona in 2025, a test of the CHIPS Act</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/aerial-photo-of-a-manufacturing-facility-i-018FD.jpg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/aerial-photo-of-a-manufacturing-facility-i-018FD.jpg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=tada><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=🎉 src=media-ose/1f389-5C738.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1334743881509634161 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1334743881509634161><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, January 31, 2025 5:35 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1334743881509634161>1/31/2025 5:35 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Wahoo!</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1334743908650979440 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1334743908650979440><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, January 31, 2025 5:35 AM">5:35 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Open source it all next &gt;:)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1334743977190096989 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1334743977190096989><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/8242935291434d7f907f31028888f962-E62F3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=goldfishlaser data-user-id=526171283444989954>goldfishlaser#1337</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, January 31, 2025 5:36 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1334743977190096989>1/31/2025 5:36 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>yes lol XD</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Friday, January 31, 2025 5:37 AM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1334956316623503390 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1334956316623503390><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, January 31, 2025 7:39 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1334956316623503390>1/31/2025 7:39 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Missed my bus to AZ soo, in Vegas still!
Also no, I haven&#39;t experienced the &quot;tourist/main&quot; Vegas experience haha. The airport alone is slot-machiney enough.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1334956441227890719 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1334956441227890719><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, January 31, 2025 7:40 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1334956441227890719>1/31/2025 7:40 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Sorry you missed your bus!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1336615775699599431 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1336615775699599431><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/0-EB806.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=corde4597 data-user-id=753336431677669457>Alexa&#x27;s 1984</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, February 5, 2025 9:33 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1336615775699599431>2/5/2025 9:33 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>idiots, &#39;its no longer Opensource if it cant be used for military or harming people&#39; .... <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@mor10web/video/7467340369798155525">https://www.tiktok.com/@mor10web/video/7467340369798155525</a></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Wednesday, February 5, 2025 9:34 AM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><video class=chatlog__embed-generic-video width=1080 height=1920 controls><source src=media-ose/7467340369798155525-8D410 alt="Embedded video"></video></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1336615776970608653 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1336615776970608653><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/def5e0a7ff07e73d477a87df10a3dc4f-BFBB1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(153,45,34) title=Arcane#7800 data-user-id=437808476106784770>Arcane</span> <span class=chatlog__author-tag>BOT</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, February 5, 2025 9:33 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1336615776970608653>2/5/2025 9:33 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="corde4597">@Alexa&#39;s 1984</span> has reached level <strong>1</strong>. GG!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1336701652618579990 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1336701652618579990><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, February 5, 2025 3:15 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1336701652618579990>2/5/2025 3:15 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Yeah open source means no restrictions on fields of endeavor</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1337896000710381599 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1337896000710381599><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, February 8, 2025 10:21 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1337896000710381599>2/8/2025 10:21 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I have been called both a fascist and a commie online inside of a week… I wonder which one it is <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🤔"
title="thinking"
src="media-ose/1f914-15707.svg"></span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=hushed><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=😯 src=media-ose/1f62f-F0C30.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1337977102733017222 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1337977102733017222><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/424ae264027d3300fd2b40602e3d3f61-B52E7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich>Alexa</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1337896000710381599')"> I have been called both a fascist and a commie online inside of a week… I wonder which one it is <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🤔"
title="thinking"
src="media-ose/1f914-15707.svg"> </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=paradoxblu data-user-id=752306736030810183>polly (she/her)</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, February 9, 2025 3:43 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1337977102733017222>2/9/2025 3:43 AM</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/trying_to_understand_the_behavior-9CBDC.jpg> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/trying_to_understand_the_behavior-9CBDC.jpg alt="Image attachment" title="Image: trying_to_understand_the_behavior.jpg (58.81 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=heart><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=❤️ src=media-ose/2764-A3D25.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1337977104892952709 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1337977104892952709><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/def5e0a7ff07e73d477a87df10a3dc4f-BFBB1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(153,45,34) title=Arcane#7800 data-user-id=437808476106784770>Arcane</span> <span class=chatlog__author-tag>BOT</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, February 9, 2025 3:43 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1337977104892952709>2/9/2025 3:43 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="paradoxblu">@polly (she/her)</span> has reached level <strong>1</strong>. GG!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1337983062251671603 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1337983062251671603><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, February 9, 2025 4:07 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1337983062251671603>2/9/2025 4:07 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I bet the number 9 smells like cinnamon</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=fish_cake><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=🍥 src=media-ose/1f365-183B6.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>2</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1338202153126461530 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1338202153126461530><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a63d122e27a3fb038bfe313622933231-319C9.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=roths data-user-id=188532829095854080>Roths</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, February 9, 2025 6:37 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1338202153126461530>2/9/2025 6:37 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I think it would smell like falafel</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=stuffed_flatbread><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=🥙 src=media-ose/1f959-4ED70.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1338202182750834698 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1338202182750834698><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, February 9, 2025 6:37 PM">6:37 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>No i will not elaborate</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=partying_face><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=🥳 src=media-ose/1f973-88B39.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div><div class=chatlog__reaction title=laughing><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=😆 src=media-ose/1f606-BE94E.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1338935761889923215 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1338935761889923215><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/2-ADBB4.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=kimberly_cs7510527_58147 data-user-id=1323979137773469700>Marcin&#x27;s 1984</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, February 11, 2025 7:12 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1338935761889923215>2/11/2025 7:12 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>where was I ... <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> - 8b people out there, 5b more likely using it everyday, thanks to a few sharks, monetizing it ...
background removal : <a href="https://huggingface.co/spaces/briaai/BRIA-RMBG-1.4">https://huggingface.co/spaces/briaai/BRIA-RMBG-1.4</a> - pretty good though, compared to all the others, mind the 40k apps on Huggingface as well; adding support for the terminal tools, eg: <code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--multiline nohighlight">kbot &quot;remove background&quot; --each=./images/*.jpg&quot;</code>, or on VFS, <code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--multiline nohighlight">kbot &quot;remove background&quot; --each=drive-1:/images/*.jpg&quot;</code>
another Easter egg, never heard about but works pretty well, has support for 100+ providers, <a href="https://rclone.org/">https://rclone.org/</a> - that solves the VFS problem, and enables collaboration, with Git as backend (as pain remover <img
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src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Tuesday, February 11, 2025 7:13 PM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://huggingface.co/spaces/briaai/BRIA-RMBG-1.4><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">BRIA RMBG 1.4 - a Hugging Face Space by briaai</div></a></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/BRIA-RMBG-1.4-61413.png> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/BRIA-RMBG-1.4-61413.png alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://rclone.org/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Rclone</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Rclone syncs your files to cloud storage: Google Drive, S3, Swift, Dropbox, Google Cloud Storage, Azure, Box and many more.</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1338938306993328229 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1338938306993328229><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/8242935291434d7f907f31028888f962-E62F3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=goldfishlaser data-user-id=526171283444989954>goldfishlaser#1337</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, February 11, 2025 7:22 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1338938306993328229>2/11/2025 7:22 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>interesting i just learned about the rsync Linux command and when i was crossreferencing saw this rclone thing but didn&#39;t look into it more yet - but tagline was &quot;rsync for the cloud&quot; so i imagine therein lies its utility</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Tuesday, February 11, 2025 7:30 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1338939909054005290 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1338939909054005290><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/2-ADBB4.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=kimberly_cs7510527_58147 data-user-id=1323979137773469700>Marcin&#x27;s 1984</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, February 11, 2025 7:29 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1338939909054005290>2/11/2025 7:29 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>yeah, chatgpt &amp; co spits out configs, easy to plug - I hope filesystems die one day, no alternatives in sight ...
I hope we can support it natively, as Typescript wrapper, that would easy quite a bit the documentation &amp; house keeping mess ( versions, public, private, testrs, ...)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1338972866393407570 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1338972866393407570><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/2-ADBB4.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=kimberly_cs7510527_58147 data-user-id=1323979137773469700>Marcin&#x27;s 1984</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, February 11, 2025 9:40 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1338972866393407570>2/11/2025 9:40 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>nice, and another one : <a href="https://huggingface.co/spaces/JeffreyXiang/TRELLIS">https://huggingface.co/spaces/JeffreyXiang/TRELLIS</a>
missing : polygons to CAD, FreeCAD lib/cli still oustanding <img
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and here a bit more background info on HuggingFace : <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@nate.b.jones/video/7468681391371226399">https://www.tiktok.com/@nate.b.jones/video/7468681391371226399</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-F7945.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-F7945.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (223.55 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://huggingface.co/spaces/JeffreyXiang/TRELLIS><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">TRELLIS - a Hugging Face Space by JeffreyXiang</div></a></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/TRELLIS-C1720.png> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/TRELLIS-C1720.png alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed><video class=chatlog__embed-generic-video width=1080 height=1920 controls><source src=media-ose/7468681391371226399-ED194 alt="Embedded video"></video></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1338972869002264578 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1338972869002264578><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/def5e0a7ff07e73d477a87df10a3dc4f-BFBB1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(153,45,34) title=Arcane#7800 data-user-id=437808476106784770>Arcane</span> <span class=chatlog__author-tag>BOT</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, February 11, 2025 9:40 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1338972869002264578>2/11/2025 9:40 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="kimberly_cs7510527_58147">@Marcin&#39;s 1984</span> has reached level <strong>1</strong>. GG!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1339325754877411369 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1339325754877411369><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/74e3a14bf208809ed4c1ebc56dbd69e9-FDCE1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=hopefulmgowner data-user-id=662348700508749827>HopefulMGowner</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, February 12, 2025 9:02 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1339325754877411369>2/12/2025 9:02 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Hey in VC</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1340533920114147458 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1340533920114147458><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/74e3a14bf208809ed4c1ebc56dbd69e9-FDCE1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=hopefulmgowner data-user-id=662348700508749827>HopefulMGowner</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, February 16, 2025 5:03 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1340533920114147458>2/16/2025 5:03 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>What work bench do I use to add threads and tapers in freeCAD?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1340534071905882174 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1340534071905882174><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, February 16, 2025 5:03 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1340534071905882174>2/16/2025 5:03 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>There&#39;s a few ways to skin that cat (no offense to cats)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1340534169054220360 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1340534169054220360><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, February 16, 2025 5:04 AM">5:04 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Are you trying to just do a single part with threads where the fasteners workbench could suffice?</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1340534287232925847 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1340534287232925847><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, February 16, 2025 5:04 AM">5:04 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Alternatively, you can do additive and subtractive operations in the part design workbench</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1340534417025663069 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1340534417025663069><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, February 16, 2025 5:05 AM">5:05 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Parts workbench might also have an option to just pop in basic versions of those too, but I&#39;d have to boot it up and check</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1340535850840231996 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1340535850840231996><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/74e3a14bf208809ed4c1ebc56dbd69e9-FDCE1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=hopefulmgowner data-user-id=662348700508749827>HopefulMGowner</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, February 16, 2025 5:10 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1340535850840231996>2/16/2025 5:10 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I&#39;ve got a hollow cylinder made up in the part work bench</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1340536108056051745 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1340536108056051745><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, February 16, 2025 5:11 AM">5:11 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>But when I move to the part design bench it says the model must be solid</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1340536109419069440 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1340536109419069440><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/def5e0a7ff07e73d477a87df10a3dc4f-BFBB1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(153,45,34) title=Arcane#7800 data-user-id=437808476106784770>Arcane</span> <span class=chatlog__author-tag>BOT</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, February 16, 2025 5:11 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1340536109419069440>2/16/2025 5:11 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="hopefulmgowner">@HopefulMGowner</span> has reached level <strong>10</strong>. GG!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1340536238821867560 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1340536238821867560><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, February 16, 2025 5:12 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1340536238821867560>2/16/2025 5:12 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Hmm</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1340536250263932998 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1340536250263932998><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, February 16, 2025 5:12 AM">5:12 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Send file?</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1340536269486166048 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1340536269486166048><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, February 16, 2025 5:12 AM">5:12 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>FreeCAD version?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1340536526496600066 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1340536526496600066><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/74e3a14bf208809ed4c1ebc56dbd69e9-FDCE1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=hopefulmgowner data-user-id=662348700508749827>HopefulMGowner</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, February 16, 2025 5:13 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1340536526496600066>2/16/2025 5:13 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I wanna be able to do it myself though</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Sunday, February 16, 2025 5:13 AM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1340536705291128923 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1340536705291128923><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, February 16, 2025 5:14 AM">5:14 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I&#39;ve been putting off learning cad so I figured I&#39;d try basic shapes</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1340536771074854954 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1340536771074854954><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, February 16, 2025 5:14 AM">5:14 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Plus I can actually make cylinders</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1340538024978812990 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1340538024978812990><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, February 16, 2025 5:19 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1340538024978812990>2/16/2025 5:19 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Ah, indeed</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1340538067227770930 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1340538067227770930><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, February 16, 2025 5:19 AM">5:19 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>let me fire it up and investigate real quick</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1340538134072528999 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1340538134072528999><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, February 16, 2025 5:19 AM">5:19 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Are you also on 1.0.0?</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1340538555268599920 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1340538555268599920><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, February 16, 2025 5:21 AM">5:21 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Also, another workflow that might make it easier on you is sketch &gt; pad/extrusion solid</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1340539043997552752 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1340539043997552752><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, February 16, 2025 5:23 AM">5:23 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I usually use the sketcher workbench and part design. I use part for quick simple shapes mostly</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1340539179808850005 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1340539179808850005><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/74e3a14bf208809ed4c1ebc56dbd69e9-FDCE1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=hopefulmgowner data-user-id=662348700508749827>HopefulMGowner</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, February 16, 2025 5:24 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1340539179808850005>2/16/2025 5:24 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I tried part because it was easy I&#39;ve got a sketch made now though</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1340539212784472084 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1340539212784472084><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, February 16, 2025 5:24 AM">5:24 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>And I am on 1.0.0</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1340539325925822485 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1340539325925822485><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, February 16, 2025 5:24 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1340539325925822485>2/16/2025 5:24 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Excellent - that&#39;s what works best on my end at least. Others may have more nuanced takes</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1340539372558352477 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1340539372558352477><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/74e3a14bf208809ed4c1ebc56dbd69e9-FDCE1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=hopefulmgowner data-user-id=662348700508749827>HopefulMGowner</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, February 16, 2025 5:24 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1340539372558352477>2/16/2025 5:24 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Pad is greyed out though</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1340539412853030982 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1340539412853030982><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, February 16, 2025 5:25 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1340539412853030982>2/16/2025 5:25 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Still, adding and subtrasting with sketches until you have the shape you want can technically make any shape</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1340539454003347558 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1340539454003347558><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, February 16, 2025 5:25 AM">5:25 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Did you close the sketcher tool first?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1340539542062760027 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1340539542062760027><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/74e3a14bf208809ed4c1ebc56dbd69e9-FDCE1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=hopefulmgowner data-user-id=662348700508749827>HopefulMGowner</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, February 16, 2025 5:25 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1340539542062760027>2/16/2025 5:25 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Nope that did it</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1340539815665602643 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1340539815665602643><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, February 16, 2025 5:26 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1340539815665602643>2/16/2025 5:26 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>And you have the sketch selected?</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1340539983173259284 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1340539983173259284><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, February 16, 2025 5:27 AM">5:27 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I can view a livestream in general if you need to have me pop in there for a look</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1340539990672937054 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1340539990672937054><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/74e3a14bf208809ed4c1ebc56dbd69e9-FDCE1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=hopefulmgowner data-user-id=662348700508749827>HopefulMGowner</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, February 16, 2025 5:27 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1340539990672937054>2/16/2025 5:27 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I got a body now</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1340540257740914822 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1340540257740914822><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, February 16, 2025 5:28 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1340540257740914822>2/16/2025 5:28 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>:) yay!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1340540631407263805 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1340540631407263805><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/74e3a14bf208809ed4c1ebc56dbd69e9-FDCE1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=hopefulmgowner data-user-id=662348700508749827>HopefulMGowner</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, February 16, 2025 5:29 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1340540631407263805>2/16/2025 5:29 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Why is the only part in the design not the active body?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1340541256446644317 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1340541256446644317><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, February 16, 2025 5:32 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1340541256446644317>2/16/2025 5:32 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Did you somehow start the sketch start outside of the body?</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1340541294593703988 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1340541294593703988><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, February 16, 2025 5:32 AM">5:32 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>You can just drag it into the body in the left pane</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1340542431413796995 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1340542431413796995><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/74e3a14bf208809ed4c1ebc56dbd69e9-FDCE1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=hopefulmgowner data-user-id=662348700508749827>HopefulMGowner</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, February 16, 2025 5:37 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1340542431413796995>2/16/2025 5:37 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>How do I make the taper internal or external only?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1340542755486699522 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1340542755486699522><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, February 16, 2025 5:38 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1340542755486699522>2/16/2025 5:38 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Screenshot, mayhaps? :)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1340542898097229864 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1340542898097229864><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/74e3a14bf208809ed4c1ebc56dbd69e9-FDCE1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=hopefulmgowner data-user-id=662348700508749827>HopefulMGowner</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, February 16, 2025 5:38 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1340542898097229864>2/16/2025 5:38 AM</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/IMG_20250215_223833_796-2BEE3.jpg> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/IMG_20250215_223833_796-2BEE3.jpg alt="Image attachment" title="Image: IMG_20250215_223833_796.jpg (1.18 MB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1340543018377285714 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1340543018377285714><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, February 16, 2025 5:39 AM">5:39 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Discord is on my phone</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1340543632612261992 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1340543632612261992><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, February 16, 2025 5:41 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1340543632612261992>2/16/2025 5:41 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Might be easier to start with a single solid cylinder and then pocket out the center separetely to get the taper to only do interior/exterior</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1340545103281787041 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1340545103281787041><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/74e3a14bf208809ed4c1ebc56dbd69e9-FDCE1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich>Alexa</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1340543632612261992')"> Might be easier to start with a single solid cylinder and then pocket out the center separetely to get the taper to only do interior/exterior </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=hopefulmgowner data-user-id=662348700508749827>HopefulMGowner</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, February 16, 2025 5:47 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1340545103281787041>2/16/2025 5:47 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Done and it helps me sketch and pad the part and <em>presents</em> all the other tools I need but when I am done padding everything is greyed out</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1340545352469581905 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1340545352469581905><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, February 16, 2025 5:48 AM">5:48 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>And it won&#39;t let me go back</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1340545523110903808 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1340545523110903808><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, February 16, 2025 5:49 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1340545523110903808>2/16/2025 5:49 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Hmm let me poke at my model for a moment to try and replicate</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1340545937189240902 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1340545937189240902><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, February 16, 2025 5:50 AM">5:50 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Did you do a pad followed by a pocket to make the center hole?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1340546207654744105 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1340546207654744105><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/74e3a14bf208809ed4c1ebc56dbd69e9-FDCE1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=hopefulmgowner data-user-id=662348700508749827>HopefulMGowner</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, February 16, 2025 5:52 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1340546207654744105>2/16/2025 5:52 AM</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/IMG_20250215_225008_008-2B2F8.jpg> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/IMG_20250215_225008_008-2B2F8.jpg alt="Image attachment" title="Image: IMG_20250215_225008_008.jpg (436.06 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1340546233474744351 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1340546233474744351><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, February 16, 2025 5:52 AM">5:52 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I sketch the part</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1340546340463181885 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1340546340463181885><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, February 16, 2025 5:52 AM">5:52 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/IMG_20250215_225029_510-2B2F3.jpg> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/IMG_20250215_225029_510-2B2F3.jpg alt="Image attachment" title="Image: IMG_20250215_225029_510.jpg (901.36 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1340546348105207848 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1340546348105207848><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, February 16, 2025 5:52 AM">5:52 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I am done with the sketch</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1340546462433546354 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1340546462433546354><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, February 16, 2025 5:53 AM">5:53 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>It let&#39;s me pick <strong>one</strong> tool</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/IMG_20250215_225125_666-5F626.jpg> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/IMG_20250215_225125_666-5F626.jpg alt="Image attachment" title="Image: IMG_20250215_225125_666.jpg (1009.32 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1340546692717744228 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1340546692717744228><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, February 16, 2025 5:53 AM">5:53 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/IMG_20250215_225324_060-F0512.jpg> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/IMG_20250215_225324_060-F0512.jpg alt="Image attachment" title="Image: IMG_20250215_225324_060.jpg (872.26 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1340546814092513381 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1340546814092513381><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, February 16, 2025 5:54 AM">5:54 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>And the whole thing rolls back over into sketch again</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/IMG_20250215_225337_834-C2D52.jpg> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/IMG_20250215_225337_834-C2D52.jpg alt="Image attachment" title="Image: IMG_20250215_225337_834.jpg (1.05 MB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1340547620082552873 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1340547620082552873><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, February 16, 2025 5:57 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1340547620082552873>2/16/2025 5:57 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>do you need to select the part?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1340547888287191081 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1340547888287191081><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/74e3a14bf208809ed4c1ebc56dbd69e9-FDCE1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=hopefulmgowner data-user-id=662348700508749827>HopefulMGowner</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, February 16, 2025 5:58 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1340547888287191081>2/16/2025 5:58 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>It won&#39;t let me</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1340547926614610041 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1340547926614610041><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, February 16, 2025 5:58 AM">5:58 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>How do I do that?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1340547974492590100 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1340547974492590100><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, February 16, 2025 5:59 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1340547974492590100>2/16/2025 5:59 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>uhh click</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1340548027970228275 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1340548027970228275><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, February 16, 2025 5:59 AM">5:59 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>just on the model anywhere allegedly</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1340548138842329170 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1340548138842329170><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/74e3a14bf208809ed4c1ebc56dbd69e9-FDCE1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=hopefulmgowner data-user-id=662348700508749827>HopefulMGowner</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, February 16, 2025 5:59 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1340548138842329170>2/16/2025 5:59 AM</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/IMG_20250215_225926_057-66344.jpg> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/IMG_20250215_225926_057-66344.jpg alt="Image attachment" title="Image: IMG_20250215_225926_057.jpg (785.28 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1340548486726422588 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1340548486726422588><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, February 16, 2025 6:01 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1340548486726422588>2/16/2025 6:01 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>If you click a face on the object and then click the creat sketch button it lets you make another sketch on that surface</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1340548503138734133 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1340548503138734133><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, February 16, 2025 6:01 AM">6:01 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>then you can close it</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1340548767585144892 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1340548767585144892><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, February 16, 2025 6:02 AM">6:02 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>and from there you can get additonal options to pad and pocket from skets</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1340548780579356683 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1340548780579356683><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, February 16, 2025 6:02 AM">6:02 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>sketch*</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1340549251423277108 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1340549251423277108><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/74e3a14bf208809ed4c1ebc56dbd69e9-FDCE1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=hopefulmgowner data-user-id=662348700508749827>HopefulMGowner</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, February 16, 2025 6:04 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1340549251423277108>2/16/2025 6:04 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I need sleep</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1340549400212275270 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1340549400212275270><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, February 16, 2025 6:04 AM">6:04 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Also that seemed to result in the new sketch clipping entirely into my part</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1340550336972329011 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1340550336972329011><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, February 16, 2025 6:08 AM">6:08 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Thank you Alexa your a huge help and I am gonna figure this shit out</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=heart><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=❤️ src=media-ose/2764-A3D25.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1341616890706919434 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1341616890706919434><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/74e3a14bf208809ed4c1ebc56dbd69e9-FDCE1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=hopefulmgowner data-user-id=662348700508749827>HopefulMGowner</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, February 19, 2025 4:46 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1341616890706919434>2/19/2025 4:46 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Hey so in freecad</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1341617103509389394 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1341617103509389394><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, February 19, 2025 4:47 AM">4:47 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>When it says add a taper to a body does the number represent the angle vs a right triangle or total?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1341617321487372308 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1341617321487372308><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, February 19, 2025 4:48 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1341617321487372308>2/19/2025 4:48 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Screenshot with examples and I can jump in to help :)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1341617600807047209 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1341617600807047209><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, February 19, 2025 4:49 AM">4:49 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Knee jerk reaction is right angle though</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1341617755220217867 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1341617755220217867><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/74e3a14bf208809ed4c1ebc56dbd69e9-FDCE1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=hopefulmgowner data-user-id=662348700508749827>HopefulMGowner</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, February 19, 2025 4:49 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1341617755220217867>2/19/2025 4:49 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I will take a pic in a bit</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=thumbsup><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=👍 src=media-ose/1f44d-27259.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1341625882539982848 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1341625882539982848><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/74e3a14bf208809ed4c1ebc56dbd69e9-FDCE1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich>Alexa</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1341617321487372308')"> Screenshot with examples and I can jump in to help :) </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=hopefulmgowner data-user-id=662348700508749827>HopefulMGowner</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, February 19, 2025 5:22 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1341625882539982848>2/19/2025 5:22 AM</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/IMG_20250218_222150_374-82954.jpg> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/IMG_20250218_222150_374-82954.jpg alt="Image attachment" title="Image: IMG_20250218_222150_374.jpg (1.17 MB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1341626021048356965 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1341626021048356965><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, February 19, 2025 5:22 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1341626021048356965>2/19/2025 5:22 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>It’s along the axis of the extrusion</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1341626137461133454 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1341626137461133454><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, February 19, 2025 5:23 AM">5:23 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>If the extrusion is in the Z direction, the taper is an angle off of the Z axis</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1341626307431370885 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1341626307431370885><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/74e3a14bf208809ed4c1ebc56dbd69e9-FDCE1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=hopefulmgowner data-user-id=662348700508749827>HopefulMGowner</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, February 19, 2025 5:23 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1341626307431370885>2/19/2025 5:23 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I knew that I just don&#39;t know if its from a right angle at the center line or both tapers added together</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1341626603540840593 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1341626603540840593><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, February 19, 2025 5:25 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1341626603540840593>2/19/2025 5:25 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I actually don’t know <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🤔"
title="thinking"
src="media-ose/1f914-15707.svg"></span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1342218901932609657 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1342218901932609657><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/424ae264027d3300fd2b40602e3d3f61-B52E7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=paradoxblu data-user-id=752306736030810183>polly (she/her)</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, February 20, 2025 8:38 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1342218901932609657>2/20/2025 8:38 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>re: phone verification
Hi! Yesterday I noticed the server requires me to confirm my telephone number in order to participate. I did so, and then yoinked back my telephone number from discord. In the past, simply verifying was sufficient and I didn&#39;t need to leave a phone number &quot;on file&quot; within discord in order to participate in the servers which require that verification.
Today I noticed that the server again requested I verify my phone number in order to comment. So I re-installed my phone number (temporarily) so I could comment on a colleague&#39;s post.
I&#39;m wondering if there&#39;s different security levels that discern between requiring the phone number to remain on file vs./ just offering a loose identity confirmation.
I promise, I&#39;m a real human on the up &amp; up, just don&#39;t like leaving my number on file.
Thoughts?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1342236765871673436 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1342236765871673436><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, February 20, 2025 9:49 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1342236765871673436>2/20/2025 9:49 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I can step it back - I had assumed it would only need upon join</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=sparkling_heart><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=💖 src=media-ose/1f496-9784E.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1342319321984274432 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1342319321984274432><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/74e3a14bf208809ed4c1ebc56dbd69e9-FDCE1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=hopefulmgowner data-user-id=662348700508749827>HopefulMGowner</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, February 21, 2025 3:17 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1342319321984274432>2/21/2025 3:17 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Hey</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1342326244066201730 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1342326244066201730><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, February 21, 2025 3:45 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1342326244066201730>2/21/2025 3:45 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Howdy!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1342368381931618305 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1342368381931618305><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/74e3a14bf208809ed4c1ebc56dbd69e9-FDCE1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=hopefulmgowner data-user-id=662348700508749827>HopefulMGowner</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, February 21, 2025 6:32 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1342368381931618305>2/21/2025 6:32 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Do linear rail carriages come in different thread sizes?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1342370878519906385 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1342370878519906385><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/74e3a14bf208809ed4c1ebc56dbd69e9-FDCE1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=hopefulmgowner data-user-id=662348700508749827>HopefulMGowner</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, February 21, 2025 6:42 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1342370878519906385>2/21/2025 6:42 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I&#39;m thinking of a simplified little CNC lathe with 123 or 246 blocks for the toolpost but I don&#39;t know if I can get carriages with threads that big</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1347372413440233493 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1347372413440233493><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a63d122e27a3fb038bfe313622933231-319C9.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=roths data-user-id=188532829095854080>Roths</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, March 7, 2025 1:56 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1347372413440233493>3/7/2025 1:56 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Been busy with a lot of stuff on my end but hopefully I can do more writing soon</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1350234213181427752 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1350234213181427752><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, March 14, 2025 11:28 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1350234213181427752>3/14/2025 11:28 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Two videos for you:
<ul><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KhbJ4pqcOY">All Cops Are Broadcasting</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4dd3iD8eFA">Haloid</a></li></ul></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2TXq_t06Hjdr2g_KdKpHQg><div class=chatlog__embed-author>media.ccc.de</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KhbJ4pqcOY"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">37C3 - All cops are broadcasting</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/8KhbJ4pqcOY width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9iwfz0SkVcLkhd9rEDAe0A><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Alex Justice</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4dd3iD8eFA"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Haloid (HQ)</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/e4dd3iD8eFA width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1350489564359430305 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1350489564359430305><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/1-B2132.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall>Nohbdy Ahtall</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1350234213181427752')"> Two videos for you:
<ul><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KhbJ4pqcOY">All Cops Are Broadcasting</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4dd3iD8eFA">Haloid</a></li></ul> </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fluxmax data-user-id=935754915937132594>American Fascism</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, March 15, 2025 4:23 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1350489564359430305>3/15/2025 4:23 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>thanks, in the meantime, somewhere in Africa learning Jazz instead <img
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<a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/DGFynu_qkHx/">https://www.instagram.com/p/DGFynu_qkHx/</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-855C4.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-855C4.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (722.59 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1351626691499397261 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1351626691499397261><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, March 18, 2025 7:41 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1351626691499397261>3/18/2025 7:41 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://youtu.be/d_n_gmINZTI">https://youtu.be/d_n_gmINZTI</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCI9eybCgmaFtbhCdBy8q62Q><div class=chatlog__embed-author>mara</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_n_gmINZTI"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">weird art, mixed media &amp; unrestricted access to the internet</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/d_n_gmINZTI width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1354565067441701084 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1354565067441701084><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/424ae264027d3300fd2b40602e3d3f61-B52E7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=paradoxblu data-user-id=752306736030810183>polly (she/her)</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, March 26, 2025 10:17 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1354565067441701084>3/26/2025 10:17 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Hi all! I&#39;m curious about the interconnection dynamics in communities with forward-thinking/forward-aiming/actively-producing members who are interested in the community-building and collaboration aspects of inherently useful projects.
Posting out of personal curiosity around the good work all y&#39;all are doing and nurturing my envisioned casual-ish role as a connecting facilitator supporting community building.
What do you notice in your maker communities is/has been helpful in cultivating trust? What have you observed to be your biggest draw towards others in nurturing sprouting synergies that might lead to closer interpersonal and working connections?
in admiration and aspired support
—Polly</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=heart><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=❤️ src=media-ose/2764-A3D25.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1354755079235960913 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1354755079235960913><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/1-B2132.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/424ae264027d3300fd2b40602e3d3f61-B52E7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=paradoxblu>polly (she/her)</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1354565067441701084')"> Hi all! I&#39;m curious about the interconnection dynamics in communities with forward-thinking/forward-aiming/actively-producing members who are interested in the community-building and collaboration aspects of inherently useful projects.
Posting out of personal curiosity around the good work all y&#39;all are doing and nurturing my envisioned casual-ish role as a connecting facilitator supporting community building.
What do you notice in your maker communities is/has been helpful in cultivating trust? What have you observed to be your biggest draw towards others in nurturing sprouting synergies that might lead to closer interpersonal and working connections?
in admiration and aspired support
—Polly </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fluxmax data-user-id=935754915937132594>American Fascism</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, March 27, 2025 10:53 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1354755079235960913>3/27/2025 10:53 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>was scratching my head over this for years, immutable content, credibility, ...
here copy &amp; paste answer gpt-4o, bang on actually, can confirm this after watching endless efforts being sabotaged by ideology, commercial interests, ...</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=thumbsup_tone1><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=👍🏻 src=media-ose/1f44d-1f3fb-ED2AA.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1354755080590721054 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1354755080590721054><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/def5e0a7ff07e73d477a87df10a3dc4f-BFBB1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(153,45,34) title=Arcane#7800 data-user-id=437808476106784770>Arcane</span> <span class=chatlog__author-tag>BOT</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, March 27, 2025 10:53 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1354755080590721054>3/27/2025 10:53 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="fluxmax">@American Fascism</span> has reached level <strong>1</strong>. GG!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1354755117043421319 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1354755117043421319><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/1-B2132.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fluxmax data-user-id=935754915937132594>American Fascism</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, March 27, 2025 10:53 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1354755117043421319>3/27/2025 10:53 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--multiline nohighlight">Here&#39;s a thoughtful response to that question, weaving in web3, blockchain, and decentralized content platforms:
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Hey, love the energy and intent behind your question—this kind of curiosity is *exactly* the connective tissue that strengthens community ecosystems.
In the maker and builder communities I’ve been part of—especially those orbiting around web3 and decentralized collaboration—**trust and synergy** often sprout from three key dynamics:
### &#127793; 1. **Transparency + Shared Ownership**
Blockchain tech, at its best, gives us *infrastructure for trust*. When you anchor collaboration in open ledgers, smart contracts, and shared wallets or DAOs, people feel more empowered and protected. It’s not just &quot;we’re building together&quot;—it’s &quot;we *own* this together.&quot; That can build real solidarity.
### &#129309; 2. **Low-barrier Interoperability**
Decentralized platforms (even if many are still nascent) offer a playground where creators, devs, and curators can plug into projects fluidly. Think tools like Farcaster, Lens Protocol, or decentralized project hubs like Coordinape or Gitcoin. These reduce gatekeeping and let contribution speak louder than credentials.
### ✨ 3. **Signal Over Noise**
In healthy, forward-aiming communities, people are drawn to **consistency, generosity, and curiosity**. The biggest attractor I&#39;ve seen isn’t flashy pitches—it’s someone building useful stuff in public, lifting others up, and being open to cross-pollination. Synergy starts with signal: are you showing up with intent, and are you leaving space for others to contribute?</code></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1354755137666809876 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1354755137666809876><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, March 27, 2025 10:53 AM">10:53 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--multiline nohighlight">---
One of the next big frontiers is **decentralized content platforms that prioritize utility and collaboration**—not just creator monetization, but collaborative building, remixing, and shared governance. Imagine a GitHub-meets-Notion-meets-Coop, running on IPFS with tokenized contribution tracking. Still doesn’t quite exist, but it’s bubbling.
If you&#39;re stepping into a facilitator role, your presence as a *connector of people and intentions* is already a huge value. Sometimes the most powerful contribution is simply holding space for mutual discovery.
Keep weaving the web—we need more of that energy.
In admiration and mutual support right back atcha. &#128588;</code></span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=sparkles><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=✨ src=media-ose/2728-DCB65.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1354837751325003918 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1354837751325003918><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/8242935291434d7f907f31028888f962-E62F3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=goldfishlaser data-user-id=526171283444989954>goldfishlaser#1337</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, March 27, 2025 4:21 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1354837751325003918>3/27/2025 4:21 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>From my own human-sourced reflection on the values of the open source community, I would say that transparency, consistency, and mutual respect/accountability are the factors I would highlight as cultivating trust in the community. There is a radical transparency in OSE, where all communications and notes are publically shared. Developers are encouraged to continuously document even during the unfinished, unpolished, failing, or uncomfortable moments of development. And I would personally add that transparency also includes being as clear as possible, not obfuscating what one means behind vagueness or complication jargon. Consistency is the other factor, people are and become what they repeatedly do, observations are naturally made about who shows up, how often and the quality of their contributions.
I think mediators play an important role in resolving conflicts or preventing them at the head. Mediation is also not an easy entirely objective by the book thing. Nonviolent Communication (NVC) is great and works up until lives are in danger and it is critical to me now to include recognition of danger to life after hearing secondhand of a non-OSE eco village that tried to push NVC meditation so far that a <span class="chatlog__markdown-spoiler chatlog__markdown-spoiler--hidden" onclick="showSpoiler(event, this)">person starved himself and his own children, ultimately killing themselves from starvation, all while under the watch and attempted intervention of said community. </span>
For OSE community references, Marcin has collected some neat quotations here in some category groupings, including transparency, respect, and consistency: <a href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Quotations">https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Quotations</a>
Driving oneself towards being an Integrated Human and developing Universal Human Values also plays a role in fostering a healthy collaborative dynamic. As well as Not Being An Asshole. <a href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Integrated_Human">https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Integrated_Human</a>
<a href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/OSE_Asshole_Policy">https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/OSE_Asshole_Policy</a></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Thursday, March 27, 2025 8:32 PM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Quotations><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Quotations</div></a></div></div></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Integrated_Human><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Integrated Human</div></a></div></div></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/OSE_Asshole_Policy><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">OSE Asshole Policy</div></a></div></div></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=sparkles><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=✨ src=media-ose/2728-DCB65.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1354861230770225343 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1354861230770225343><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/1-B2132.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fluxmax data-user-id=935754915937132594>American Fascism</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, March 27, 2025 5:54 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1354861230770225343>3/27/2025 5:54 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>&quot;asshole policy&quot;, how inviting <img
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alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> soon we can have that as building block for general filters, perhaps as chrome extension, <a href="https://git.polymech.io/PolyCraft/resources/src/branch/master/src/config/templates/commons.json">https://git.polymech.io/PolyCraft/resources/src/branch/master/src/config/templates/commons.json</a> | works well so far</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1354870078071509136 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1354870078071509136><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/8242935291434d7f907f31028888f962-E62F3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=goldfishlaser data-user-id=526171283444989954>goldfishlaser#1337</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, March 27, 2025 6:29 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1354870078071509136>3/27/2025 6:29 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>what is that, some sort of discord moderation bot?</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Thursday, March 27, 2025 6:30 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1354876865176670208 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1354876865176670208><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/1-B2132.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fluxmax data-user-id=935754915937132594>American Fascism</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, March 27, 2025 6:56 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1354876865176670208>3/27/2025 6:56 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>discord: not yet <img
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alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> currently being used to &#39;clean&#39; an older knowledge base, whilst adding value information, eg: locale context / suppliers, ...</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1354876920202002513 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1354876920202002513><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, March 27, 2025 6:57 PM">6:57 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>should be there a in a few weeks</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1354877005723734077 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1354877005723734077><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/8242935291434d7f907f31028888f962-E62F3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=goldfishlaser data-user-id=526171283444989954>goldfishlaser#1337</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, March 27, 2025 6:57 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1354877005723734077>3/27/2025 6:57 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>ah ok interesting</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1354897512019791913 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1354897512019791913><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/424ae264027d3300fd2b40602e3d3f61-B52E7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/8242935291434d7f907f31028888f962-E62F3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=goldfishlaser>goldfishlaser#1337</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1354837751325003918')"> From my own human-sourced reflection on the values of the open source community, I would say that transparency, consistency, and mutual respect/accountability are the factors I would highlight as cultivating trust in the community. There is a radical transparency in OSE, where all communications and notes are publically shared. Developers are encouraged to continuously document even during the unfinished, unpolished, failing, or uncomfortable moments of development. And I would personally add that transparency also includes being as clear as possible, not obfuscating what one means behind vagueness or complication jargon. Consistency is the other factor, people are and become what they repeatedly do, observations are naturally made about who shows up, how often and the quality of their contributions.
I think mediators play an important role in resolving conflicts or preventing them at the head. Mediation is also not an easy entirely objective by the book thing. Nonviolent Communication (NVC) is great and works up until lives are in danger and it is critical to me now to include recognition of danger to life after hearing secondhand of a non-OSE eco village that tried to push NVC meditation so far that a <span class="chatlog__markdown-spoiler chatlog__markdown-spoiler--hidden" onclick="showSpoiler(event, this)">person starved himself and his own children, ultimately killing themselves from starvation, all while under the watch and attempted intervention of said community. </span>
For OSE community references, Marcin has collected some neat quotations here in some category groupings, including transparency, respect, and consistency: <a href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Quotations">https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Quotations</a>
Driving oneself towards being an Integrated Human and developing Universal Human Values also plays a role in fostering a healthy collaborative dynamic. As well as Not Being An Asshole. <a href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Integrated_Human">https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/Integrated_Human</a>
<a href="https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/OSE_Asshole_Policy">https://wiki.opensourceecology.org/wiki/OSE_Asshole_Policy</a> </span> <span class=chatlog__reply-edited-timestamp title="Thursday, March 27, 2025 8:32 PM">(edited)</span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=paradoxblu data-user-id=752306736030810183>polly (she/her)</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, March 27, 2025 8:18 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1354897512019791913>3/27/2025 8:18 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>NVC=big fan! Bit of a learning curve but a worthy &quot;must&quot; for any substantive community endeavors.
Looking forward to rereading the OSE pieces.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1354899745214300494 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1354899745214300494><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/424ae264027d3300fd2b40602e3d3f61-B52E7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/1-B2132.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=fluxmax>American Fascism</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1354755137666809876')"> <code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--multiline nohighlight">---
One of the next big frontiers is **decentralized content platforms that prioritize utility and collaboration**—not just creator monetization, but collaborative building, remixing, and shared governance. Imagine a GitHub-meets-Notion-meets-Coop, running on IPFS with tokenized contribution tracking. Still doesn’t quite exist, but it’s bubbling.
If you&#39;re stepping into a facilitator role, your presence as a *connector of people and intentions* is already a huge value. Sometimes the most powerful contribution is simply holding space for mutual discovery.
Keep weaving the web—we need more of that energy.
In admiration and mutual support right back atcha. &#128588;</code> </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=paradoxblu data-user-id=752306736030810183>polly (she/her)</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, March 27, 2025 8:27 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1354899745214300494>3/27/2025 8:27 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>thanks! The &#39;how much space&#39; is utilized/dominated/relinquished is a big area for cultural work, which means active community work towards stepping back/stepping forward and cultivating humility is vital. I&#39;m reminded how difficult it is to change ourselves/our habits, and how impossible it can be to encourage others to shift their own, and help enforce beneficial boundaries in a cohort of an aspiring community. This is a great place for NVC and community agreements/goals.
It seems like having a facilitator in such intentional communities may be of great benefit, so that makers can focus more on their areas of expertise, and relax a bit with some of the emotional labor/coordinating efforts handled by someone who actually loves to do that kind of work and is invested in the overall vision.</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=sparkling_heart><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=💖 src=media-ose/1f496-9784E.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>2</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1354904896541032629 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1354904896541032629><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/1-B2132.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fluxmax data-user-id=935754915937132594>American Fascism</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, March 27, 2025 8:48 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1354904896541032629>3/27/2025 8:48 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>&#39;It seems like having a facilitator in such intentional communities may be of great benefit, so that makers can focus more on their areas of expertise&#39; - I think thats in the making, personal AI/LLM coach, delivered through your earbud, anywhere, with vision, AR, voice, ... cant wait</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1354909007076135145 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1354909007076135145><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/dfd0800add9062bbf908842285d54915-7F27C.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=technopagan87109 data-user-id=569730064485318683>TechnoPagan</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, March 27, 2025 9:04 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1354909007076135145>3/27/2025 9:04 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>That may be closer than you think. I gotta tell you how much has changed here. Last time I was looking at this place it wound up being used to spam for adult websites</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=grey_question><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=❔ src=media-ose/2754-09670.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1354910442304180516 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1354910442304180516><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/8242935291434d7f907f31028888f962-E62F3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=goldfishlaser data-user-id=526171283444989954>goldfishlaser#1337</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, March 27, 2025 9:10 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1354910442304180516>3/27/2025 9:10 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>must have been during the short gap between when i left last time 3 years ago (and eric was modding) until when alexa started modding... welcome back</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Thursday, March 27, 2025 9:12 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1354912296757104762 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1354912296757104762><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/8242935291434d7f907f31028888f962-E62F3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=goldfishlaser data-user-id=526171283444989954>goldfishlaser#1337</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, March 27, 2025 9:17 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1354912296757104762>3/27/2025 9:17 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>anyways, I suggest we not derail a discussion around human facilitation and community with too much ai stuff, thats fine if you like that sort of thing but lets leave that at that.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1354913773466419321 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1354913773466419321><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/dfd0800add9062bbf908842285d54915-7F27C.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=technopagan87109 data-user-id=569730064485318683>TechnoPagan</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, March 27, 2025 9:23 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1354913773466419321>3/27/2025 9:23 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Where would someone go to discuss that?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1354914039137964124 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1354914039137964124><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/8242935291434d7f907f31028888f962-E62F3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=goldfishlaser data-user-id=526171283444989954>goldfishlaser#1337</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, March 27, 2025 9:24 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1354914039137964124>3/27/2025 9:24 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>could start some threads</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1354914199884791905 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1354914199884791905><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><svg class=chatlog__system-notification-icon><use href=#thread-icon></use></svg></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><span class=chatlog__system-notification-author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=goldfishlaser data-user-id=526171283444989954>goldfishlaser#1337</span> <span> </span> <span class=chatlog__system-notification-content> <span>started a thread.</span> </span> <span class=chatlog__system-notification-timestamp title="Thursday, March 27, 2025 9:25 PM"> <a href=#chatlog__message-container-1354914199884791905>3/27/2025 9:25 PM</a> </span></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1354914498867101945 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1354914498867101945><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><svg class=chatlog__system-notification-icon><use href=#thread-icon></use></svg></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><span class=chatlog__system-notification-author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=goldfishlaser data-user-id=526171283444989954>goldfishlaser#1337</span> <span> </span> <span class=chatlog__system-notification-content> <span>started a thread.</span> </span> <span class=chatlog__system-notification-timestamp title="Thursday, March 27, 2025 9:26 PM"> <a href=#chatlog__message-container-1354914498867101945>3/27/2025 9:26 PM</a> </span></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1354915122216440041 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1354915122216440041><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/dfd0800add9062bbf908842285d54915-7F27C.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=technopagan87109 data-user-id=569730064485318683>TechnoPagan</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, March 27, 2025 9:28 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1354915122216440041>3/27/2025 9:28 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I&#39;ll need to come back and figure that out. But have to finish something and I was there something here I might need to include and this is trashing some deadlines</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1354915188461015040 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1354915188461015040><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/8242935291434d7f907f31028888f962-E62F3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=goldfishlaser data-user-id=526171283444989954>goldfishlaser#1337</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, March 27, 2025 9:29 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1354915188461015040>3/27/2025 9:29 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I already created the threads for you</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1354915303896645873 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1354915303896645873><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/dfd0800add9062bbf908842285d54915-7F27C.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=technopagan87109 data-user-id=569730064485318683>TechnoPagan</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, March 27, 2025 9:29 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1354915303896645873>3/27/2025 9:29 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I&#39;m sorry. Can you delete them?</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1354915429931548853 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1354915429931548853><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, March 27, 2025 9:30 PM">9:30 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>This is going to change so much</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1354915483555725403 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1354915483555725403><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/8242935291434d7f907f31028888f962-E62F3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=goldfishlaser data-user-id=526171283444989954>goldfishlaser#1337</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, March 27, 2025 9:30 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1354915483555725403>3/27/2025 9:30 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>i don&#39;t understand how it changes anything.</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Thursday, March 27, 2025 9:30 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1354915610026573824 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1354915610026573824><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/dfd0800add9062bbf908842285d54915-7F27C.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=technopagan87109 data-user-id=569730064485318683>TechnoPagan</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, March 27, 2025 9:30 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1354915610026573824>3/27/2025 9:30 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I&#39;m not ready, and now even less ready</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1354915681963086006 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1354915681963086006><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/8242935291434d7f907f31028888f962-E62F3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=goldfishlaser data-user-id=526171283444989954>goldfishlaser#1337</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, March 27, 2025 9:31 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1354915681963086006>3/27/2025 9:31 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>the threads will be here when you return just tap on them to reply</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1354915755182784644 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1354915755182784644><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, March 27, 2025 9:31 PM">9:31 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>im trying to hold space for the topic polly started.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1354915906286784713 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1354915906286784713><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/dfd0800add9062bbf908842285d54915-7F27C.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=technopagan87109 data-user-id=569730064485318683>TechnoPagan</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, March 27, 2025 9:32 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1354915906286784713>3/27/2025 9:32 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I&#39;m putting finishing touches on a project I&#39;ve been working on for a while now</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1354916176656072731 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1354916176656072731><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, March 27, 2025 9:33 PM">9:33 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Open Source is a big part of it and OSE has inspired quite a bit</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1354916177805185177 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1354916177805185177><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/def5e0a7ff07e73d477a87df10a3dc4f-BFBB1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(153,45,34) title=Arcane#7800 data-user-id=437808476106784770>Arcane</span> <span class=chatlog__author-tag>BOT</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, March 27, 2025 9:33 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1354916177805185177>3/27/2025 9:33 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="technopagan87109">@TechnoPagan</span> has reached level <strong>2</strong>. GG!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1354916722817372251 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1354916722817372251><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/8242935291434d7f907f31028888f962-E62F3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=goldfishlaser data-user-id=526171283444989954>goldfishlaser#1337</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, March 27, 2025 9:35 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1354916722817372251>3/27/2025 9:35 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I&#39;m sorry if I&#39;ve confused you somehow, are you new to discord? a thread is just a just the start of a message chain that you can reply to at any time. and you can talk about anything here in the off-topic channel - I just meant with regard to Polly&#39;s idea lets just have two threads so we don&#39;t end up getting sidetracked.</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Thursday, March 27, 2025 9:36 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1354916906766962729 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1354916906766962729><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/dfd0800add9062bbf908842285d54915-7F27C.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=technopagan87109 data-user-id=569730064485318683>TechnoPagan</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, March 27, 2025 9:36 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1354916906766962729>3/27/2025 9:36 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I think (please don&#39;t set it up yet) would be more like: community facilitation (human/ai)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1354917147964473474 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1354917147964473474><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/8242935291434d7f907f31028888f962-E62F3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=goldfishlaser data-user-id=526171283444989954>goldfishlaser#1337</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, March 27, 2025 9:37 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1354917147964473474>3/27/2025 9:37 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>do it yourself if you want alright, I was just trying to help- but ai is for human/ai too, human is implied</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Thursday, March 27, 2025 9:39 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1354917714119889007 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1354917714119889007><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/dfd0800add9062bbf908842285d54915-7F27C.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=technopagan87109 data-user-id=569730064485318683>TechnoPagan</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, March 27, 2025 9:39 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1354917714119889007>3/27/2025 9:39 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>it&#39;s more like a computer assisted, deliberative, direct democratic governance system</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1354917839659864319 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1354917839659864319><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, March 27, 2025 9:39 PM">9:39 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I appreciate your help</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1354918040869011567 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1354918040869011567><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, March 27, 2025 9:40 PM">9:40 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I really do, I just thought I had less to do before I&#39;m ready</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1354918348156047422 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1354918348156047422><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/8242935291434d7f907f31028888f962-E62F3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=goldfishlaser data-user-id=526171283444989954>goldfishlaser#1337</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, March 27, 2025 9:41 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1354918348156047422>3/27/2025 9:41 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>if ur talking about something different you dont need to make a thread its all good, just post what you want. im just a fellow community member anyways. i am happy to continue posting and encouraging posting in the human thread -- and I may participate in the ai thread as well, I just wanted to protect the integrity of the original topic</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Thursday, March 27, 2025 9:45 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1354918443568074913 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1354918443568074913><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/dfd0800add9062bbf908842285d54915-7F27C.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=technopagan87109 data-user-id=569730064485318683>TechnoPagan</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, March 27, 2025 9:42 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1354918443568074913>3/27/2025 9:42 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I don&#39;t know. Some people seem to think we need AI Overlords</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1354918792932626542 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1354918792932626542><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, March 27, 2025 9:43 PM">9:43 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Gotta go. I&#39;ll be back soon</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1354918868061262025 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1354918868061262025><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, March 27, 2025 9:43 PM">9:43 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Nice to meet you all</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1355116780254662666 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1355116780254662666><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/1-B2132.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/dfd0800add9062bbf908842285d54915-7F27C.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=technopagan87109>TechnoPagan</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1354918443568074913')"> I don&#39;t know. Some people seem to think we need AI Overlords </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fluxmax data-user-id=935754915937132594>American Fascism</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, March 28, 2025 10:50 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1355116780254662666>3/28/2025 10:50 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>AI Overlords, well, destroying most of the habitat, in less than 100 years ... wouldnt be bad to have some supervision, ...</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1356047164702326955 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1356047164702326955><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, March 31, 2025 1:27 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1356047164702326955>3/31/2025 1:27 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOK5xkFijPc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOK5xkFijPc</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCy0tKL1T7wFoYcxCe0xjN6Q><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Technology Connections</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOK5xkFijPc"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Power is not energy: why the difference matters</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/OOK5xkFijPc width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1356255753182121995 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1356255753182121995><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/1-B2132.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/8242935291434d7f907f31028888f962-E62F3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=goldfishlaser>goldfishlaser#1337</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1354870078071509136')"> what is that, some sort of discord moderation bot? </span> <span class=chatlog__reply-edited-timestamp title="Thursday, March 27, 2025 6:30 PM">(edited)</span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fluxmax data-user-id=935754915937132594>American Fascism</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, March 31, 2025 3:16 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1356255753182121995>3/31/2025 3:16 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>here in action : <a href="https://creava.org/en/howtos/trash-printer-flake-extruding-3d-print-head/">https://creava.org/en/howtos/trash-printer-flake-extruding-3d-print-head/</a> - resources, BOM, SEO keyword extraction, multi-lang, .... pretty happy so far, 100 more plugins come to mind, image to 3D, local suppliers, ...</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,255,255,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://creava.org/en/howtos/trash-printer-flake-extruding-3d-print-head/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Trash Printer Flake Extruding 3D Print Head</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">This is a modified extruder design, optimized for large-format 3D printing of Polypropylene, using shredded plastic flakes instead of filament.</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/overview-3-24321.jpg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/overview-3-24321.jpg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1356258315578904606 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1356258315578904606><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/1-B2132.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fluxmax data-user-id=935754915937132594>American Fascism</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, March 31, 2025 3:26 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1356258315578904606>3/31/2025 3:26 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>btw, any ideas on training new models ? found only this here : <a href="https://github.com/hiyouga/LLaMA-Factory">https://github.com/hiyouga/LLaMA-Factory</a> | renting GPU infrastructure is easy these days <img
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title="dancer"
src="media-ose/1f483-F1B1B.svg"></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(30,35,39,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://github.com/hiyouga/LLaMA-Factory><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">GitHub - hiyouga/LLaMA-Factory: Unified Efficient Fine-Tuning of 10...</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Unified Efficient Fine-Tuning of 100+ LLMs &amp; VLMs (ACL 2024) - hiyouga/LLaMA-Factory</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/ccb14d87-7454-4e82-a85c-f1f63a3c1ccb-1C63F> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/ccb14d87-7454-4e82-a85c-f1f63a3c1ccb-1C63F alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1357002314787061761 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1357002314787061761><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/1-B2132.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fluxmax data-user-id=935754915937132594>American Fascism</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, April 2, 2025 4:42 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1357002314787061761>4/2/2025 4:42 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>excessive research bot, tested : works well, a bit abusive though : <a href="https://docs.gptr.dev/docs/gpt-researcher/getting-started/introduction">https://docs.gptr.dev/docs/gpt-researcher/getting-started/introduction</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://docs.gptr.dev/docs/gpt-researcher/getting-started/introduction><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Introduction | GPT Researcher</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Official Website</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1357002395686801469 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1357002395686801469><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, April 2, 2025 4:43 PM">4:43 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__attachment><div class=chatlog__attachment-generic><svg class=chatlog__attachment-generic-icon><use href=#attachment-icon /></svg><div class=chatlog__attachment-generic-name><a href=media-ose/testin-258D8.md> testin.md </a></div><div class=chatlog__attachment-generic-size>29.43 KB</div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1357002595020836944 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1357002595020836944><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, April 2, 2025 4:43 PM">4:43 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>next in line, claude computer use, I hope I can get rid of hundreds of hours in solidworks <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1357013000254394398 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1357013000254394398><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/424ae264027d3300fd2b40602e3d3f61-B52E7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/1-B2132.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=fluxmax>American Fascism</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1357002595020836944')"> next in line, claude computer use, I hope I can get rid of hundreds of hours in solidworks <img
loading="lazy"
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title="kissing_cat"
src="media-ose/1f63d-98C6C.svg"> </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=paradoxblu data-user-id=752306736030810183>polly (she/her)</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, April 2, 2025 5:25 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1357013000254394398>4/2/2025 5:25 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Hello, I&#39;m confused as to why one wouldn&#39;t want to do research and read scientific/academic papers? It seems being informed and learning is valuable, and knowing the sources &amp; writers/researchers is critically valuable.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1357027716796518460 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1357027716796518460><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/1-B2132.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fluxmax data-user-id=935754915937132594>American Fascism</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, April 2, 2025 6:23 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1357027716796518460>4/2/2025 6:23 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>why ? I can think of hundreds of other nice things, kite surfing, .... research, as sourcing materials, components is a hefty bottleneck in our production (one man show)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1357027965715611851 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1357027965715611851><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, April 2, 2025 6:24 PM">6:24 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I&#39;d love AI is matching my designs &amp; needs with the suppliers/services offers instead just <img
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title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Wednesday, April 2, 2025 6:24 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1357037769230389329 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1357037769230389329><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/1-B2132.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fluxmax data-user-id=935754915937132594>American Fascism</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, April 2, 2025 7:03 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1357037769230389329>4/2/2025 7:03 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>other nice applications for a research bot/agent
<ul><li>identify all the toxics in my fridge, or workplace</li><li>check my BOM for alternatives, including that firmware mods actually may work or features work as advertised (Arduino-Pro hoax .. <img
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title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></li><li>investigate new markets for my existing products</li><li>check my website for best practices, ...</li></ul></span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1357037770706522443 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1357037770706522443><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/def5e0a7ff07e73d477a87df10a3dc4f-BFBB1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(153,45,34) title=Arcane#7800 data-user-id=437808476106784770>Arcane</span> <span class=chatlog__author-tag>BOT</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, April 2, 2025 7:03 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1357037770706522443>4/2/2025 7:03 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="fluxmax">@American Fascism</span> has reached level <strong>3</strong>. GG!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1357072518766137614 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1357072518766137614><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/424ae264027d3300fd2b40602e3d3f61-B52E7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/1-B2132.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=fluxmax>American Fascism</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1357027965715611851')"> I&#39;d love AI is matching my designs &amp; needs with the suppliers/services offers instead just <img
loading="lazy"
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alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> </span> <span class=chatlog__reply-edited-timestamp title="Wednesday, April 2, 2025 6:24 PM">(edited)</span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=paradoxblu data-user-id=752306736030810183>polly (she/her)</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, April 2, 2025 9:21 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1357072518766137614>4/2/2025 9:21 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I hold values in comprehensive, scholarly data gathering and in human propelled knowledge.
How can you cite sources?
How can you ensure accuracy?
How are you enriched by the material?
How can you follow the trajectories of the information itself?
I&#39;m definitely averse for in-depth integration.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1357076354050293931 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1357076354050293931><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/1-B2132.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fluxmax data-user-id=935754915937132594>American Fascism</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, April 2, 2025 9:36 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1357076354050293931>4/2/2025 9:36 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>well, I pretend for a moment, corruption &amp; fraud doesnt exists in the academic world <img
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1. How can you cite sources? - bots/agents backed up with search engine data do that very well, thanks to Google btw. scanning all the books as well
2. working on that, getting better by the week
3. I am blown away in every aspect, i think its time to build a new internet, enabling you to zoom onto the last atom, hopefully bypassing all firewalls, also in universities <img
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4. see 1.</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Wednesday, April 2, 2025 9:38 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1357077805300711526 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1357077805300711526><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/424ae264027d3300fd2b40602e3d3f61-B52E7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=paradoxblu data-user-id=752306736030810183>polly (she/her)</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, April 2, 2025 9:42 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1357077805300711526>4/2/2025 9:42 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I&#39;m not sensing any honoring of my points.</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1357078146360545400 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1357078146360545400><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, April 2, 2025 9:44 PM">9:44 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>How can you possibly integrate material you don&#39;t personally synthesize?</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1357078378338980063 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1357078378338980063><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, April 2, 2025 9:44 PM">9:44 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>TBH, it sounds like a plan for not learning</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1357078932356202527 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1357078932356202527><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, April 2, 2025 9:47 PM">9:47 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>You wouldn&#39;t know up from down regarding critical material, and that would make citing, or having an inkling of what to cite from where impossible for you.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1357110808940773561 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1357110808940773561><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/1-B2132.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fluxmax data-user-id=935754915937132594>American Fascism</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, April 2, 2025 11:53 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1357110808940773561>4/2/2025 11:53 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>learning what exactly ? not sure I follow - I research every day, and I am tired off - happy I have tools now instead and focus on whats more important to me, in life <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1357115276792955081 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1357115276792955081><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/424ae264027d3300fd2b40602e3d3f61-B52E7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/1-B2132.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=fluxmax>American Fascism</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1357111108435181702')"> sounds more like the typical AI nah sayers, who dont want to learn <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1357116417119486164 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1357116417119486164><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/1-B2132.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=fluxmax data-user-id=935754915937132594>American Fascism</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, April 3, 2025 12:16 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1357116417119486164>4/3/2025 12:16 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>if you like, I can setup an instance of GPTResearch for you; not quite sure it can answer your questions, state of the art content creation, deep search, and everything what comes with it. I doubt this can be currently answered at all.</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1357116793642291441 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1357116793642291441><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, April 3, 2025 12:17 AM">12:17 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>&#39;I hold values in comprehensive, scholarly data gathering and in human propelled knowledge.
How can you cite sources?
How can you ensure accuracy?
How are you enriched by the material?
How can you follow the trajectories of the information itself?
I&#39;m definitely averse for in-depth integration.&#39;
but perhaps you can tell us then <img
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1. How can you cite sources? -&gt; you&#39;d need first to validate them <img
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src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> as for the rest, not sure you&#39;re familiar with hyperlinks
2. How can you ensure accuracy? -&gt; they&#39;ve got &#39;function calling&#39;, now &#39;mcp&#39;, hundreds by now, for every little thing, searching the web, analyzing your screen, ....
3. I am 20x more productive, can focus on more important things than just details nobody cares anyway <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1357120232845611118 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1357120232845611118><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/424ae264027d3300fd2b40602e3d3f61-B52E7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=paradoxblu data-user-id=752306736030810183>polly (she/her)</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, April 3, 2025 12:31 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1357120232845611118>4/3/2025 12:31 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://discord.com/channels/700486873272811562/798759758559576086/1357115276792955081" onclick="scrollToMessage(event, '1357115276792955081')">https://discord.com/channels/700486873272811562/798759758559576086/1357115276792955081</a></span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1360065603670376499 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1360065603670376499><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/424ae264027d3300fd2b40602e3d3f61-B52E7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/424ae264027d3300fd2b40602e3d3f61-B52E7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=paradoxblu>polly (she/her)</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1357120232845611118')"> <a href="https://discord.com/channels/700486873272811562/798759758559576086/1357115276792955081" onclick="scrollToMessage(event, '1357115276792955081')">https://discord.com/channels/700486873272811562/798759758559576086/1357115276792955081</a> </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=paradoxblu data-user-id=752306736030810183>polly (she/her)</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, April 11, 2025 3:35 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1360065603670376499>4/11/2025 3:35 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>(late to the reply, and the instigating arguer is no longer present, but also: this)</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/Brandolinis_Law-EA13A.jpg> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/Brandolinis_Law-EA13A.jpg alt="Image attachment" title="Image: Brandolinis_Law.jpg (189.59 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1360084319242293353 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1360084319242293353><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/8242935291434d7f907f31028888f962-E62F3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=goldfishlaser data-user-id=526171283444989954>goldfishlaser#1337</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, April 11, 2025 4:49 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1360084319242293353>4/11/2025 4:49 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://arstechnica.com/ai/2025/03/devs-say-ai-crawlers-dominate-traffic-forcing-blocks-on-entire-countries/">https://arstechnica.com/ai/2025/03/devs-say-ai-crawlers-dominate-traffic-forcing-blocks-on-entire-countries/</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://arstechnica.com/ai/2025/03/devs-say-ai-crawlers-dominate-traffic-forcing-blocks-on-entire-countries/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Open source devs say AI crawlers dominate traffic, forcing blocks o...</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">AI bots hungry for data are taking down FOSS sites by accident, but humans are fighting back.</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/flood_header-1152x648-718C4.jpg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/flood_header-1152x648-718C4.jpg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1360181716953600121 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1360181716953600121><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/2-ADBB4.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=0f0o430h25 data-user-id=943580430769197106>Among fascists</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, April 11, 2025 11:16 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1360181716953600121>4/11/2025 11:16 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>yep, that&#39;s because we dont have a community owned search engine, cost is ~100M+
best crawler I&#39;ve seen so far : <a href="https://github.com/unclecode/crawl4ai">https://github.com/unclecode/crawl4ai</a> - converts websites into Markdown, using structured output on demand - much needed for building quality knowledgebases, preferably adaptive to the user&#39;s skill levels <img
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src="media-ose/1f916-AD810.svg"> Crawl4AI: Open-source LLM Fri...</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve"><img
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src="media-ose/1f916-AD810.svg"> Crawl4AI: Open-source LLM Friendly Web Crawler &amp; Scraper. Don&#39;t be shy, join here: <a href="https://discord.gg/jP8KfhDhyN">https://discord.gg/jP8KfhDhyN</a> - unclecode/crawl4ai</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/crawl4ai-3D3FA> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/crawl4ai-3D3FA alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1360182780180304003 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1360182780180304003><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, April 11, 2025 11:20 AM">11:20 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>related, LLM aided &#39;educator&#39;, breaking down knowledge into more easier lessons, <a href="https://github.com/Prestonrhodes/educator/tree/main">https://github.com/Prestonrhodes/educator/tree/main</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(30,35,39,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://github.com/Prestonrhodes/educator/tree/main><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">GitHub - Prestonrhodes/educator: llm framework to learn anything at...</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">llm framework to learn anything at scale. Contribute to Prestonrhodes/educator development by creating an account on GitHub.</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/educator-FB45E> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/educator-FB45E alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1360182781610819787 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1360182781610819787><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/def5e0a7ff07e73d477a87df10a3dc4f-BFBB1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(153,45,34) title=Arcane#7800 data-user-id=437808476106784770>Arcane</span> <span class=chatlog__author-tag>BOT</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, April 11, 2025 11:20 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1360182781610819787>4/11/2025 11:20 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="0f0o430h25">@Among fascists</span> has reached level <strong>1</strong>. GG!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1360337245394964510 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1360337245394964510><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/dfd0800add9062bbf908842285d54915-7F27C.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/2-ADBB4.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=0f0o430h25>Among fascists</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1360181716953600121')"> yep, that&#39;s because we dont have a community owned search engine, cost is ~100M+
best crawler I&#39;ve seen so far : <a href="https://github.com/unclecode/crawl4ai">https://github.com/unclecode/crawl4ai</a> - converts websites into Markdown, using structured output on demand - much needed for building quality knowledgebases, preferably adaptive to the user&#39;s skill levels <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1360337246531621105 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1360337246531621105><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/def5e0a7ff07e73d477a87df10a3dc4f-BFBB1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(153,45,34) title=Arcane#7800 data-user-id=437808476106784770>Arcane</span> <span class=chatlog__author-tag>BOT</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, April 11, 2025 9:34 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1360337246531621105>4/11/2025 9:34 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="technopagan87109">@TechnoPagan</span> has reached level <strong>3</strong>. GG!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1360337483677569206 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1360337483677569206><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/dfd0800add9062bbf908842285d54915-7F27C.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=technopagan87109 data-user-id=569730064485318683>TechnoPagan</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, April 11, 2025 9:35 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1360337483677569206>4/11/2025 9:35 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I get levels? <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1360341173796868368 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1360341173796868368><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/ff1e5587d0409067ee4e1875f9b14715-7CD06.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/dfd0800add9062bbf908842285d54915-7F27C.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=technopagan87109>TechnoPagan</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1360337245394964510')"> Jumping in, taking a break from building a local LLM and saw your comment about not having ~100M+. This is something I&#39;ve been thinking a lot about, distributed AI that could be installed and set up, using a small part of the capacity of a lot of computers, phone and whatever else to give the users those kinds of features? Break over. Let me know what you think? </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=mitomon data-user-id=209117391076982785>Mitomon</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, April 11, 2025 9:50 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1360341173796868368>4/11/2025 9:50 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>wouldn&#39;t that be especially vulnerable to bad actors with enough organization?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1360342592436572250 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1360342592436572250><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/dfd0800add9062bbf908842285d54915-7F27C.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=technopagan87109 data-user-id=569730064485318683>TechnoPagan</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, April 11, 2025 9:55 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1360342592436572250>4/11/2025 9:55 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Yes it would be, very much so. Not necessarily a reason to say &#39;no&#39; but an indication of the work involved. I think Blockchain would be useful (and immediately I start start in on the things I&#39;m supposed to be writing down)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1360368962679869640 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1360368962679869640><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/ff1e5587d0409067ee4e1875f9b14715-7CD06.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/dfd0800add9062bbf908842285d54915-7F27C.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=technopagan87109>TechnoPagan</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1360342592436572250')"> Yes it would be, very much so. Not necessarily a reason to say &#39;no&#39; but an indication of the work involved. I think Blockchain would be useful (and immediately I start start in on the things I&#39;m supposed to be writing down) </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=mitomon data-user-id=209117391076982785>Mitomon</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, April 11, 2025 11:40 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1360368962679869640>4/11/2025 11:40 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>that&#39;s what I was thinking too. I don&#39;t know how we&#39;d make it be environmentally healthy unless it was something like proof of stake though, where the stakeholders are trusted organizations</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1360399038838472945 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1360399038838472945><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/dfd0800add9062bbf908842285d54915-7F27C.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=technopagan87109 data-user-id=569730064485318683>TechnoPagan</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, April 12, 2025 1:40 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1360399038838472945>4/12/2025 1:40 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Wait, proof of stake? I was thinking PoET (Proof of Elapsed Time) but then this is small part of a project with a lot of parts so I&#39;m not sure, but if you&#39;re looking for more environmentally benine, PoET you should take a look at</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1360420569270718704 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1360420569270718704><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/ff1e5587d0409067ee4e1875f9b14715-7CD06.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/dfd0800add9062bbf908842285d54915-7F27C.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=technopagan87109>TechnoPagan</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1360399038838472945')"> Wait, proof of stake? I was thinking PoET (Proof of Elapsed Time) but then this is small part of a project with a lot of parts so I&#39;m not sure, but if you&#39;re looking for more environmentally benine, PoET you should take a look at </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=mitomon data-user-id=209117391076982785>Mitomon</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, April 12, 2025 3:05 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1360420569270718704>4/12/2025 3:05 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Will do, thanks</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1360693176595251310 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1360693176595251310><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/8242935291434d7f907f31028888f962-E62F3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=goldfishlaser data-user-id=526171283444989954>goldfishlaser#1337</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, April 12, 2025 9:08 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1360693176595251310>4/12/2025 9:08 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Proof of Elapsed Time does look to be potentially important as a less resource intensive blockchain technology.
But isn&#39;t the issue that people are using web crawlers irresponsibly? What is the responsible way to use them, and how can this information be promoted so that developers say no to doing it irresponsibly? And how can we hold irresponsible companies accountable?</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Saturday, April 12, 2025 11:36 PM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=point_up_2><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=👆 src=media-ose/1f446-9CC34.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1360693177958404230 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1360693177958404230><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/def5e0a7ff07e73d477a87df10a3dc4f-BFBB1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(153,45,34) title=Arcane#7800 data-user-id=437808476106784770>Arcane</span> <span class=chatlog__author-tag>BOT</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, April 12, 2025 9:08 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1360693177958404230>4/12/2025 9:08 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="goldfishlaser">@goldfishlaser#1337</span> has reached level <strong>12</strong>. GG!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1360716381078945873 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1360716381078945873><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/2-ADBB4.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/dfd0800add9062bbf908842285d54915-7F27C.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=technopagan87109>TechnoPagan</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1360337245394964510')"> Jumping in, taking a break from building a local LLM and saw your comment about not having ~100M+. This is something I&#39;ve been thinking a lot about, distributed AI that could be installed and set up, using a small part of the capacity of a lot of computers, phone and whatever else to give the users those kinds of features? Break over. Let me know what you think? </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=0f0o430h25 data-user-id=943580430769197106>Among fascists</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, April 12, 2025 10:41 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1360716381078945873>4/12/2025 10:41 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--inline">Jumping in, taking a break from building a local LLM and saw your comment about not having ~100M+. This is something I&#39;ve been thinking a lot about, distributed AI that could be installed and set up, using a small part of the capacity of a lot of computers, phone and whatever else to give the users those kinds of features? Break over. Let me know what you think?</code>
we could also crowdfund it, that&#39;s 1$ for 100M people ... <img
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src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> Same for a new socialmedia platform, paying not just healthcare for the US citizens - sometimes I have the strange feeling, humans just dont want a better life ...</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1360717259588501624 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1360717259588501624><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/2-ADBB4.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/8242935291434d7f907f31028888f962-E62F3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=goldfishlaser>goldfishlaser#1337</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1360693176595251310')"> Proof of Elapsed Time does look to be potentially important as a less resource intensive blockchain technology.
But isn&#39;t the issue that people are using web crawlers irresponsibly? What is the responsible way to use them, and how can this information be promoted so that developers say no to doing it irresponsibly? And how can we hold irresponsible companies accountable? </span> <span class=chatlog__reply-edited-timestamp title="Saturday, April 12, 2025 11:36 PM">(edited)</span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=0f0o430h25 data-user-id=943580430769197106>Among fascists</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, April 12, 2025 10:44 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1360717259588501624>4/12/2025 10:44 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>&#39;But isn&#39;t the issue that people are using web crawlers irresponsibly? &#39; : didnt know people using technology in any responsible way anyway <img
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there&#39;s now a major shift, also in the cooperate world, folks are now capable to build new layers on top - latest AI enabled me to work on stuff I was just dreaming about, now I have it in hours ... I smell freedom</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Saturday, April 12, 2025 10:46 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1360724589398855901 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1360724589398855901><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/8242935291434d7f907f31028888f962-E62F3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/2-ADBB4.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=0f0o430h25>Among fascists</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1360717259588501624')"> &#39;But isn&#39;t the issue that people are using web crawlers irresponsibly? &#39; : didnt know people using technology in any responsible way anyway <img
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there&#39;s now a major shift, also in the cooperate world, folks are now capable to build new layers on top - latest AI enabled me to work on stuff I was just dreaming about, now I have it in hours ... I smell freedom </span> <span class=chatlog__reply-edited-timestamp title="Saturday, April 12, 2025 10:46 PM">(edited)</span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=goldfishlaser data-user-id=526171283444989954>goldfishlaser#1337</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, April 12, 2025 11:13 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1360724589398855901>4/12/2025 11:13 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>yes, many people are concerned with responsible and ethical technology use. typically, we try to instill these principles in one another as a community.</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1360724870580928623 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1360724870580928623><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, April 12, 2025 11:14 PM">11:14 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>handwaving problems away isn&#39;t going to maintain freedom.</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=sparkles><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=✨ src=media-ose/2728-DCB65.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>3</span></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1360725663744528596 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1360725663744528596><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, April 12, 2025 11:17 PM">11:17 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>it seems like if you want to use web crawlers in your projects, being aware of how you may impact the projects you depend on is critical.</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1360726811465748551 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1360726811465748551><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, April 12, 2025 11:22 PM">11:22 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>AI is obviously great in many ways, but failure to regulate it properly is causing ecological devastation, both to earth ecology and information ecology. As an emerging technology, we have to continue to have serious conversations about how to do it right, and we have to have these conversations quickly.</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=point_up_2_tone1><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=👆🏻 src=media-ose/1f446-1f3fb-38017.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div><div class=chatlog__reaction title=point_up_2><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=👆 src=media-ose/1f446-9CC34.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1360727983119270088 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1360727983119270088><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Saturday, April 12, 2025 11:27 PM">11:27 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>free source has always faced numerous threats. people, and companies, themselves, without the help of ai, have commonly failed to contribute back sufficiently to the community, after building on its back. and now, bots join in to continue to ravage without giving back, taking at volumes more than people could? It&#39;s an existential threat to openness that must be reckoned with.</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Saturday, April 12, 2025 11:35 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1360732507561267482 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1360732507561267482><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/8242935291434d7f907f31028888f962-E62F3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=goldfishlaser data-user-id=526171283444989954>goldfishlaser#1337</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, April 12, 2025 11:45 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1360732507561267482>4/12/2025 11:45 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Externalizing costs may enrich you and make you feel free in the short term, but when you devastate communities, we will rise up and say no, and will check those that think they can get away with antisocial behavior. Sociopaths may not have the proper fear of this consequence due to their inflated sense of importance, but that&#39;s not my concern. I stand with people who work who make, and who contribute - not with the takers whose work will fall on their foundations on sand. tanstaafl still true.
So, back to the topic posed - are there any known ways to mitigate the web crawling issue impacting oss projects? what reasonable standards and best practices should we implement?</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Sunday, April 13, 2025 2:27 AM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=thumbsup_tone1><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=👍🏻 src=media-ose/1f44d-1f3fb-ED2AA.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1360773442768470167 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1360773442768470167><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, April 13, 2025 2:27 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1360773442768470167>4/13/2025 2:27 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGkuRp5HfH8">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGkuRp5HfH8</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmtyQOKKmrMVaKuRXz02jbQ><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Sebastian Lague</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGkuRp5HfH8"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Creating 256 Bytes of RAM (in a simulation)</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/HGkuRp5HfH8 width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1360773510380650618 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1360773510380650618><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, April 13, 2025 2:28 AM">2:28 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://youtu.be/3pYqXrFx6S8">https://youtu.be/3pYqXrFx6S8</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnZeeKO8qVdtkrA4-uKhtTw><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Animagraffs</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pYqXrFx6S8"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">How a 16th Century Explorer&#39;s Sailing Ship Works</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/3pYqXrFx6S8 width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1360817745804918974 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1360817745804918974><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/ff1e5587d0409067ee4e1875f9b14715-7CD06.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/8242935291434d7f907f31028888f962-E62F3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=goldfishlaser>goldfishlaser#1337</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1360732507561267482')"> Externalizing costs may enrich you and make you feel free in the short term, but when you devastate communities, we will rise up and say no, and will check those that think they can get away with antisocial behavior. Sociopaths may not have the proper fear of this consequence due to their inflated sense of importance, but that&#39;s not my concern. I stand with people who work who make, and who contribute - not with the takers whose work will fall on their foundations on sand. tanstaafl still true.
So, back to the topic posed - are there any known ways to mitigate the web crawling issue impacting oss projects? what reasonable standards and best practices should we implement? </span> <span class=chatlog__reply-edited-timestamp title="Sunday, April 13, 2025 2:27 AM">(edited)</span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=mitomon data-user-id=209117391076982785>Mitomon</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, April 13, 2025 5:23 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1360817745804918974>4/13/2025 5:23 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Depending on the license, probably not. If it&#39;s allowed for commercial use then technically it&#39;s fair game, and if it isn&#39;t, you&#39;d need a team of lawyers willing to fight these trillion dollar companies.</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1360818064471625810 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1360818064471625810><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, April 13, 2025 5:25 AM">5:25 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>We&#39;d have to make a separate internet, maybe more intranet, for only humans to use. Proving one&#39;s humanity has proven to be quite difficult though, without resorting to something macabre like asking for blood samples to access a blog post.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1360824698459521104 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1360824698459521104><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/8242935291434d7f907f31028888f962-E62F3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/ff1e5587d0409067ee4e1875f9b14715-7CD06.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=mitomon>Mitomon</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1360817745804918974')"> Depending on the license, probably not. If it&#39;s allowed for commercial use then technically it&#39;s fair game, and if it isn&#39;t, you&#39;d need a team of lawyers willing to fight these trillion dollar companies. </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=goldfishlaser data-user-id=526171283444989954>goldfishlaser#1337</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, April 13, 2025 5:51 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1360824698459521104>4/13/2025 5:51 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Licensing is an entirely separate issue - this isn&#39;t about source code use, we&#39;re talking about bandwidth. This would more be covered by something like a terms of use document. True about the cost of enforcing.
I think addressing this is likely to require a multipronged approach that evolves over time, much like security efforts. We&#39;ll need to educate people about how to maintain a healthy ecosystem, define the bounds of legitimate web scraping activity and identify and discourage bad practices. It is probably easier to put pressure on companies that are more familiar to/dependent on the public, or that are causing bigger problems.</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Sunday, April 13, 2025 5:59 AM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1360833155233484870 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1360833155233484870><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/ff1e5587d0409067ee4e1875f9b14715-7CD06.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/8242935291434d7f907f31028888f962-E62F3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=goldfishlaser>goldfishlaser#1337</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1360824698459521104')"> Licensing is an entirely separate issue - this isn&#39;t about source code use, we&#39;re talking about bandwidth. This would more be covered by something like a terms of use document. True about the cost of enforcing.
I think addressing this is likely to require a multipronged approach that evolves over time, much like security efforts. We&#39;ll need to educate people about how to maintain a healthy ecosystem, define the bounds of legitimate web scraping activity and identify and discourage bad practices. It is probably easier to put pressure on companies that are more familiar to/dependent on the public, or that are causing bigger problems. </span> <span class=chatlog__reply-edited-timestamp title="Sunday, April 13, 2025 5:59 AM">(edited)</span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=mitomon data-user-id=209117391076982785>Mitomon</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, April 13, 2025 6:25 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1360833155233484870>4/13/2025 6:25 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Well, the current system is an honor based system. Crawlers can choose to ignore the robots.txt file if it asks them not to visit the rest of the site. I have heard of people making malicious files that make the bot get stuck on the same page somehow, but I&#39;m not really sure how that would work, so I fell back on the only other option which would be legal recourse</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1360833156537909499 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1360833156537909499><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/def5e0a7ff07e73d477a87df10a3dc4f-BFBB1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(153,45,34) title=Arcane#7800 data-user-id=437808476106784770>Arcane</span> <span class=chatlog__author-tag>BOT</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, April 13, 2025 6:25 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1360833156537909499>4/13/2025 6:25 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="mitomon">@Mitomon</span> has reached level <strong>2</strong>. GG!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1360833256102166711 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1360833256102166711><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/ff1e5587d0409067ee4e1875f9b14715-7CD06.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=mitomon data-user-id=209117391076982785>Mitomon</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, April 13, 2025 6:25 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1360833256102166711>4/13/2025 6:25 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>The malicious bit wouldn&#39;t help bandwidth either</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1360833960057241761 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1360833960057241761><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/8242935291434d7f907f31028888f962-E62F3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=goldfishlaser data-user-id=526171283444989954>goldfishlaser#1337</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, April 13, 2025 6:28 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1360833960057241761>4/13/2025 6:28 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>yeah, I hear you
It will probably take some time to figure it out. I have plans to study webscrapers and ai webscrapers, but haven&#39;t gotten there yet</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1360835071371907152 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1360835071371907152><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/ff1e5587d0409067ee4e1875f9b14715-7CD06.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=mitomon data-user-id=209117391076982785>Mitomon</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, April 13, 2025 6:32 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1360835071371907152>4/13/2025 6:32 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I think I&#39;ll go the bioinformatics route</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1360835166020435978 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1360835166020435978><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, April 13, 2025 6:33 AM">6:33 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>The computers in our bodies are fascinating</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1360835640962584618 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1360835640962584618><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/8242935291434d7f907f31028888f962-E62F3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=goldfishlaser data-user-id=526171283444989954>goldfishlaser#1337</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, April 13, 2025 6:34 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1360835640962584618>4/13/2025 6:34 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>have you checked out rosalind.info ?</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Sunday, April 13, 2025 6:35 AM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1360838454078083093 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1360838454078083093><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/ff1e5587d0409067ee4e1875f9b14715-7CD06.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=mitomon data-user-id=209117391076982785>Mitomon</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, April 13, 2025 6:46 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1360838454078083093>4/13/2025 6:46 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>woah that&#39;s awesome! thanks for the link. I&#39;ll have to check this out once I reach that stage</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1360839082070249595 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1360839082070249595><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/8242935291434d7f907f31028888f962-E62F3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=goldfishlaser data-user-id=526171283444989954>goldfishlaser#1337</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, April 13, 2025 6:48 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1360839082070249595>4/13/2025 6:48 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>no problem <img
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src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> once was neighbors with someone who went into bioinformatics. its very interesting, and a fun way to learn algorithms too</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1360871180021530736 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1360871180021530736><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/2-ADBB4.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=0f0o430h25 data-user-id=943580430769197106>Among fascists</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, April 13, 2025 8:56 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1360871180021530736>4/13/2025 8:56 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--inline">AI is obviously great in many ways, but failure to regulate it properly is causing ecological devastation, </code>
1. why you want to regulate it ?
2. AI doesnt cause ecological devastation though, people do : <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@jorgethevanguard5/video/7491817081504173358">https://www.tiktok.com/@jorgethevanguard5/video/7491817081504173358</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><video class=chatlog__embed-generic-video width=720 height=1280 controls><source src=media-ose/7491817081504173358-CF3B8 alt="Embedded video"></video></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1360871714967519303 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1360871714967519303><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, April 13, 2025 8:58 AM">8:58 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>as for scraping, bad practices : its not a big deal - its happening at data center level, there might be only a few bots at a time though</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1360920592781672590 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1360920592781672590><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/424ae264027d3300fd2b40602e3d3f61-B52E7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/2-ADBB4.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=0f0o430h25>Among fascists</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1360871180021530736')"> <code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--inline">AI is obviously great in many ways, but failure to regulate it properly is causing ecological devastation, </code>
1. why you want to regulate it ?
2. AI doesnt cause ecological devastation though, people do : <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@jorgethevanguard5/video/7491817081504173358">https://www.tiktok.com/@jorgethevanguard5/video/7491817081504173358</a> </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=paradoxblu data-user-id=752306736030810183>polly (she/her)</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, April 13, 2025 12:12 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1360920592781672590>4/13/2025 12:12 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Please visit the Center for Humane Technology&#39;s website, beginning by listening to the past year&#39;s Your Undivided Attention podcast (found there) will help you start on a path of ethical, informed action.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1360949249826619527 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1360949249826619527><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/2-ADBB4.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=0f0o430h25 data-user-id=943580430769197106>Among fascists</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, April 13, 2025 2:06 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1360949249826619527>4/13/2025 2:06 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>thanks, will do; was just 5 clicks away, <a href="https://www.humanetech.com/podcast">https://www.humanetech.com/podcast</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.humanetech.com/podcast><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Your Undivided Attention Podcast - Center for Humane Technology</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Co-hosts Tristan Harris and Aza Raskin explore the incredible power that technology has over our lives and how we can use it to catalyze a humane future. We explore solutions with a wide-range of thought leaders, change-makers, and whistleblowers. Now part of the TED Audio Collective.</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/6205565a5fdd562e495021f6_your-undivided-at-144C3.png> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/6205565a5fdd562e495021f6_your-undivided-at-144C3.png alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1360949401773805740 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1360949401773805740><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, April 13, 2025 2:07 PM">2:07 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>&#39;path of ethical, informed action&#39;, sounds really ambitious <img
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actually, every time I tried that, we&#39;ve got in serious trouble though</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Sunday, April 13, 2025 2:15 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1360987280550002838 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1360987280550002838><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/424ae264027d3300fd2b40602e3d3f61-B52E7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/2-ADBB4.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=0f0o430h25>Among fascists</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1360949401773805740')"> &#39;path of ethical, informed action&#39;, sounds really ambitious <img
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actually, every time I tried that, we&#39;ve got in serious trouble though </span> <span class=chatlog__reply-edited-timestamp title="Sunday, April 13, 2025 2:15 PM">(edited)</span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=paradoxblu data-user-id=752306736030810183>polly (she/her)</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, April 13, 2025 4:37 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1360987280550002838>4/13/2025 4:37 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>What do you mean?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1360987311931658492 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1360987311931658492><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/2-ADBB4.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=0f0o430h25 data-user-id=943580430769197106>Among fascists</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, April 13, 2025 4:37 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1360987311931658492>4/13/2025 4:37 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>ok, gave it a try, gave up at &#39;we have to prevent, we have to control ...&#39; - never understood people&#39;s desire to control, deciding for others - that starts literally with distrust though
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cB0_-qKbal4&amp;ab_channel=Summit">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cB0_-qKbal4&amp;ab_channel=Summit</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMGlHWuKnlWVoY5GXpXTYzg><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Summit</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cB0_-qKbal4"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Center for Humane Technology Co-Founders Tristan Harris and Aza Ras...</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/cB0_-qKbal4 width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1360987485630501066 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1360987485630501066><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/424ae264027d3300fd2b40602e3d3f61-B52E7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/2-ADBB4.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=0f0o430h25>Among fascists</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1360987311931658492')"> ok, gave it a try, gave up at &#39;we have to prevent, we have to control ...&#39; - never understood people&#39;s desire to control, deciding for others - that starts literally with distrust though
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cB0_-qKbal4&amp;ab_channel=Summit">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cB0_-qKbal4&amp;ab_channel=Summit</a> </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=paradoxblu data-user-id=752306736030810183>polly (she/her)</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, April 13, 2025 4:38 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1360987485630501066>4/13/2025 4:38 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Sounds like you aren&#39;t interested in reality.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1360987630388379728 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1360987630388379728><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/2-ADBB4.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/424ae264027d3300fd2b40602e3d3f61-B52E7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=paradoxblu>polly (she/her)</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1360987280550002838')"> What do you mean? </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=0f0o430h25 data-user-id=943580430769197106>Among fascists</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, April 13, 2025 4:38 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1360987630388379728>4/13/2025 4:38 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>longer story, ... but I learned over and over that truth gets you rather in trouble - lies is the utmost currency <img
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alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1360987712144015632 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1360987712144015632><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, April 13, 2025 4:39 PM">4:39 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--inline">Sounds like you aren&#39;t interested in reality.</code> : what makes you say that ? literally addicted to it <img
loading="lazy"
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alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1360988263170445553 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1360988263170445553><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, April 13, 2025 4:41 PM">4:41 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>anyway, also learned that those morals are actually meaningless, in &#39;reality&#39;, I spend 10-16 hours a day to feed a corrupt system, paying with health, and life ...</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1360988264214827118 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1360988264214827118><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/def5e0a7ff07e73d477a87df10a3dc4f-BFBB1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(153,45,34) title=Arcane#7800 data-user-id=437808476106784770>Arcane</span> <span class=chatlog__author-tag>BOT</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, April 13, 2025 4:41 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1360988264214827118>4/13/2025 4:41 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="0f0o430h25">@Among fascists</span> has reached level <strong>2</strong>. GG!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1360989027632677034 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1360989027632677034><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/2-ADBB4.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=0f0o430h25 data-user-id=943580430769197106>Among fascists</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, April 13, 2025 4:44 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1360989027632677034>4/13/2025 4:44 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>reality, there is this saying &#39;too much truth makes your heat sick, and your mind mad&#39;, ... cant agree more - being fully aware is a real painful experience though</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1360989408983122050 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1360989408983122050><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, April 13, 2025 4:46 PM">4:46 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>looks like luxurity problems, of the west <img
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alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-D922C.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-D922C.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (491.7 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1360989505833926887 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1360989505833926887><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, April 13, 2025 4:46 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1360989505833926887>4/13/2025 4:46 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Hi big g long time no see</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1360989560091312151 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1360989560091312151><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, April 13, 2025 4:46 PM">4:46 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>What’re you getting up to these days?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1360989890044756098 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1360989890044756098><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/2-ADBB4.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=0f0o430h25 data-user-id=943580430769197106>Among fascists</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, April 13, 2025 4:47 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1360989890044756098>4/13/2025 4:47 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>porting firmware, to ESP, going for the next level, OS meets business demands, touchscreens, ... outsourcing production, plugging AI into content creation tools, stuff like that <img
loading="lazy"
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alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Sunday, April 13, 2025 4:47 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1360990364928049356 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1360990364928049356><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, April 13, 2025 4:49 PM">4:49 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>&#39;Cursor&#39; doing a great job debugging &amp; fixing on ESP-32
neat, saves me hundreds of hours</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Sunday, April 13, 2025 4:50 PM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-5A0DE.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-5A0DE.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (251.11 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1361003262735548637 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1361003262735548637><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/8242935291434d7f907f31028888f962-E62F3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/2-ADBB4.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=0f0o430h25>Among fascists</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1360871180021530736')"> <code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--inline">AI is obviously great in many ways, but failure to regulate it properly is causing ecological devastation, </code>
1. why you want to regulate it ?
2. AI doesnt cause ecological devastation though, people do : <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@jorgethevanguard5/video/7491817081504173358">https://www.tiktok.com/@jorgethevanguard5/video/7491817081504173358</a> </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=goldfishlaser data-user-id=526171283444989954>goldfishlaser#1337</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, April 13, 2025 5:41 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1361003262735548637>4/13/2025 5:41 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>&quot;ai doesnt cause ecological devastation, people do&quot; - hence the need for regulation.
why do I want to regulate it? because I want clean air and water and a working internet and thriving open source community projects.
<a href="https://youtu.be/DGjj7wDYaiI">https://youtu.be/DGjj7wDYaiI</a></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Sunday, April 13, 2025 5:52 PM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCehBVAPy-bxmnbNARF-_tvA><div class=chatlog__embed-author>More Perfect Union</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGjj7wDYaiI"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Data Centers Use A Shocking Amount Of Electricity &amp; Water. Your Tow...</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/DGjj7wDYaiI width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=100><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=💯 src=media-ose/1f4af-4CFF5.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1361003653087101038 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1361003653087101038><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a1bd7c6b6f546f050464599bb3c6ac68-1F3AA.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=daggersnatch data-user-id=698967116564660324>Katie</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, April 13, 2025 5:42 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1361003653087101038>4/13/2025 5:42 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I understand that a ToS or login requirement might be a bit of an anathema to open source ideology, but if companies like Amazon and Alibaba are not acting in good faith and are threatening the open sources with their irresponsible usage, I don&#39;t see another way around it.</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Sunday, April 13, 2025 5:45 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1361003855633977386 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1361003855633977386><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, April 13, 2025 5:43 PM">5:43 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I don&#39;t trust that governments are sufficiently technologically literate to effectively or appropriately regulate, either.</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=thumbsup><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=👍 src=media-ose/1f44d-27259.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1361004430345896076 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1361004430345896076><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/8242935291434d7f907f31028888f962-E62F3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/a1bd7c6b6f546f050464599bb3c6ac68-1F3AA.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=daggersnatch>Katie</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1361003653087101038')"> I understand that a ToS or login requirement might be a bit of an anathema to open source ideology, but if companies like Amazon and Alibaba are not acting in good faith and are threatening the open sources with their irresponsible usage, I don&#39;t see another way around it. </span> <span class=chatlog__reply-edited-timestamp title="Sunday, April 13, 2025 5:45 PM">(edited)</span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=goldfishlaser data-user-id=526171283444989954>goldfishlaser#1337</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, April 13, 2025 5:45 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1361004430345896076>4/13/2025 5:45 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>it&#39;s going to be important to head this off with an appreciation for privacy preserving technological solutions for authenticating- which I think are possible</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Sunday, April 13, 2025 5:46 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1361005208775299234 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1361005208775299234><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a1bd7c6b6f546f050464599bb3c6ac68-1F3AA.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/8242935291434d7f907f31028888f962-E62F3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=goldfishlaser>goldfishlaser#1337</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1361004430345896076')"> it&#39;s going to be important to head this off with an appreciation for privacy preserving technological solutions for authenticating- which I think are possible </span> <span class=chatlog__reply-edited-timestamp title="Sunday, April 13, 2025 5:46 PM">(edited)</span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=daggersnatch data-user-id=698967116564660324>Katie</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, April 13, 2025 5:48 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1361005208775299234>4/13/2025 5:48 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Big agree.</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1361006797732970807 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1361006797732970807><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, April 13, 2025 5:55 PM">5:55 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>It is really striking to me the similarity between this situation and other open communities.
My gut reaction to this situation was: can&#39;t this be set up as an API with limits / subscription to charge for larger/ more frequent requests?
And I hate that. It&#39;s really upsetting that something that is intended to be free and open gets to a point where it must be moderated in this way.</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Sunday, April 13, 2025 6:17 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1361007203393474560 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1361007203393474560><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Sunday, April 13, 2025 5:56 PM">5:56 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>P.S. I apologize if I&#39;m using the incorrect terminology / thought process here. I&#39;m definitely approaching this from a place of limited knowledge, so if I&#39;m incorrect, y&#39;all please let me know.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1361007204647567380 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1361007204647567380><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/def5e0a7ff07e73d477a87df10a3dc4f-BFBB1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(153,45,34) title=Arcane#7800 data-user-id=437808476106784770>Arcane</span> <span class=chatlog__author-tag>BOT</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, April 13, 2025 5:56 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1361007204647567380>4/13/2025 5:56 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="daggersnatch">@Katie</span> has reached level <strong>2</strong>. GG!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1361027052681171196 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1361027052681171196><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/2-ADBB4.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=0f0o430h25 data-user-id=943580430769197106>Among fascists</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, April 13, 2025 7:15 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1361027052681171196>4/13/2025 7:15 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--inline">I don&#39;t trust that governments are sufficiently technologically literate to effectively or appropriately regulate, either.</code> Amen that, soon we&#39;ve got machines with brain sizes of an entire planet at our finger tips (incl. all the knowledge of the past centuries); my physics teacher from 1994 comes to mind, <code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--inline">I&#39;d rather trust a machine to take care of pressing issues as resources, ... than a machine</code>
Comes in well together, the truth movement, now able to create a better future</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Sunday, April 13, 2025 7:16 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1361035248892121318 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1361035248892121318><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/8242935291434d7f907f31028888f962-E62F3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=goldfishlaser data-user-id=526171283444989954>goldfishlaser#1337</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, April 13, 2025 7:48 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1361035248892121318>4/13/2025 7:48 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>the lack of technological literacy in government is definitely one my top concerns... and lately omg has it been a madhouse</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1361047584655015976 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1361047584655015976><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/2-ADBB4.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=0f0o430h25 data-user-id=943580430769197106>Among fascists</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, April 13, 2025 8:37 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1361047584655015976>4/13/2025 8:37 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I consider &#39;government&#39; soon obsolete, they know it, no matter how hard they try, covid, ukraine, ...</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=purple_heart><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=💜 src=media-ose/1f49c-71A75.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1361314080681496596 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1361314080681496596><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/2edc9a6d26f57e10ef4979d3089636a2-5838D.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=lord_ipsi data-user-id=288465374809161730>Lord IPSI (William)</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, April 14, 2025 2:16 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1361314080681496596>4/14/2025 2:16 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Government never was the problem. It&#39;s bad people in power.</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=thumbsup_tone1><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=👍🏻 src=media-ose/1f44d-1f3fb-ED2AA.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>4</span></div><div class=chatlog__reaction title=zany_face><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=🤪 src=media-ose/1f92a-55954.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1361314083407659088 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1361314083407659088><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/def5e0a7ff07e73d477a87df10a3dc4f-BFBB1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(153,45,34) title=Arcane#7800 data-user-id=437808476106784770>Arcane</span> <span class=chatlog__author-tag>BOT</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, April 14, 2025 2:16 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1361314083407659088>4/14/2025 2:16 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="lord_ipsi">@Lord IPSI (William)</span> has reached level <strong>1</strong>. GG!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1362540765070495905 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1362540765070495905><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/8242935291434d7f907f31028888f962-E62F3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=goldfishlaser data-user-id=526171283444989954>goldfishlaser#1337</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, April 17, 2025 11:30 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1362540765070495905>4/17/2025 11:30 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://gizmodo.com/wikipedia-is-making-a-dataset-for-training-ai-because-its-overwhelmed-by-bots-2000590704">https://gizmodo.com/wikipedia-is-making-a-dataset-for-training-ai-because-its-overwhelmed-by-bots-2000590704</a> Wikipedia has come up with a solution of creating a cache of the site for bots</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,255,255,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://gizmodo.com/wikipedia-is-making-a-dataset-for-training-ai-because-its-overwhelmed-by-bots-2000590704><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Wikipedia Is Making a Dataset for Training AI Because It&#39;s Overwhel...</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">The company wants developers to stop straining its website, so it created a cache of Wikipedia pages formatted specifically for developers.</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/WikiHed-7477F.jpg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/WikiHed-7477F.jpg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=thumbsup_tone1><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=👍🏻 src=media-ose/1f44d-1f3fb-ED2AA.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>2</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1364476603953971261 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1364476603953971261><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/8242935291434d7f907f31028888f962-E62F3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=goldfishlaser data-user-id=526171283444989954>goldfishlaser#1337</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, April 23, 2025 7:42 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1364476603953971261>4/23/2025 7:42 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://dontasktoask.com/">https://dontasktoask.com/</a> Heh, I saw this in the rules of another discord channel and thought I&#39;d drop it in here. Has quality online community etiquette advice. This and the linked pages should be mandatory instruction in schools XD</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Wednesday, April 23, 2025 7:44 AM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://dontasktoask.com/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Don&#39;t ask to ask, just ask</div></a></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/favicon-B931F.png> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/favicon-B931F.png alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=100><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=💯 src=media-ose/1f4af-4CFF5.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1369615408897855570 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1369615408897855570><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/49aadad55fa7263c92d0246b7a20dbed-A178A.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=hr6qmy0yrbee data-user-id=945016081087610900>hr6qmy0yrbee</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, May 7, 2025 12:02 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1369615408897855570>5/7/2025 12:02 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><code class="chatlog__markdown-pre chatlog__markdown-pre--multiline nohighlight">Do you have twin-screws extruders?
We need twin screws to better mix 2 types of polymers.
Also, do you have a dealer in the USA?
Thank you.
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Best regards,
Sergei Makaev, PhD
Nanostructured Materials Lab: http://nsmlab.com/
University of Georgia</code>
Anyone ? Twin Lab Extruders on Ali... insane expensive for what it is, whopping 6-7k</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1369781164868370452 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1369781164868370452><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/49aadad55fa7263c92d0246b7a20dbed-A178A.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=hr6qmy0yrbee data-user-id=945016081087610900>hr6qmy0yrbee</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, May 7, 2025 11:01 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1369781164868370452>5/7/2025 11:01 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>New TikTok cherry, <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@alimcforever/video/7501293993024605462">https://www.tiktok.com/@alimcforever/video/7501293993024605462</a> - irish, ADHD, bang on - helped me a lot to understand the west&#39;s desperate desire to rule, others of course <img
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title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> ...</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Thursday, May 8, 2025 8:21 AM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><video class=chatlog__embed-generic-video width=720 height=1280 controls><source src=media-ose/7501293993024605462-FC125 alt="Embedded video"></video></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1369781723298271362 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1369781723298271362><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Wednesday, May 7, 2025 11:03 PM">11:03 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@brunoblockchain/video/7481103158429682987">https://www.tiktok.com/@brunoblockchain/video/7481103158429682987</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><video class=chatlog__embed-generic-video width=1080 height=1920 controls><source src=media-ose/7481103158429682987-C5DFF alt="Embedded video"></video></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1369781724988444823 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1369781724988444823><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/def5e0a7ff07e73d477a87df10a3dc4f-BFBB1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(153,45,34) title=Arcane#7800 data-user-id=437808476106784770>Arcane</span> <span class=chatlog__author-tag>BOT</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, May 7, 2025 11:03 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1369781724988444823>5/7/2025 11:03 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="hr6qmy0yrbee">@hr6qmy0yrbee</span> has reached level <strong>3</strong>. GG!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1369809312813285398 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1369809312813285398><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/424ae264027d3300fd2b40602e3d3f61-B52E7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/49aadad55fa7263c92d0246b7a20dbed-A178A.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=hr6qmy0yrbee>hr6qmy0yrbee</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1369781164868370452')"> New TikTok cherry, <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@alimcforever/video/7501293993024605462">https://www.tiktok.com/@alimcforever/video/7501293993024605462</a> - irish, ADHD, bang on - helped me a lot to understand the west&#39;s desperate desire to rule, others of course <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"> ... </span> <span class=chatlog__reply-edited-timestamp title="Thursday, May 8, 2025 8:21 AM">(edited)</span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=paradoxblu data-user-id=752306736030810183>polly (she/her)</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, May 8, 2025 12:53 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1369809312813285398>5/8/2025 12:53 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>What do you mean?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1369971125853093949 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1369971125853093949><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/49aadad55fa7263c92d0246b7a20dbed-A178A.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=hr6qmy0yrbee data-user-id=945016081087610900>hr6qmy0yrbee</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, May 8, 2025 11:36 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1369971125853093949>5/8/2025 11:36 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>ups, i fixed the typo &#39;help&#39; -&gt; &#39;helped&#39; - equally right <img
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alt="🙂"
title="slight_smile"
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1370750970543341708 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1370750970543341708><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/49aadad55fa7263c92d0246b7a20dbed-A178A.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=hr6qmy0yrbee data-user-id=945016081087610900>hr6qmy0yrbee</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Saturday, May 10, 2025 3:14 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1370750970543341708>5/10/2025 3:14 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>code to music <img
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<a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@switch.angel/video/7502395547828145454">https://www.tiktok.com/@switch.angel/video/7502395547828145454</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><video class=chatlog__embed-generic-video width=1080 height=1920 controls><source src=media-ose/7502395547828145454-17CF5 alt="Embedded video"></video></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1374050387304251494 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1374050387304251494><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/05c3ccb5d0d3e1beea2e33c94d96c666-59884.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=henriette0373_23660 data-user-id=1360716796805648394>The Silenced, among Fascists</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, May 19, 2025 5:45 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1374050387304251494>5/19/2025 5:45 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Tractor build in progress : <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@building.no2/video/7505395929323736363">https://www.tiktok.com/@building.no2/video/7505395929323736363</a>, design on the go <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1375551679377707048 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1375551679377707048><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/424ae264027d3300fd2b40602e3d3f61-B52E7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=paradoxblu data-user-id=752306736030810183>polly (she/her)</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, May 23, 2025 9:11 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1375551679377707048>5/23/2025 9:11 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Free webinar next week:
<a href="https://calaborlab.ucsf.edu/webinars">https://calaborlab.ucsf.edu/webinars</a>
Tracking Antimicrobial Resistance on Farms: Surveillance, Partnerships, and Protecting Worker Health
This presentation will explore antimicrobial resistance (AMR) risks in dairy farming environments, highlighting findings from an environmental surveillance study in California and a partnership-based research effort in Maryland. It will examine challenges to community engagement in occupational health research within the agricultural industry and discuss strategies for strengthening collaborations that protect farmworker health.
A Community-Based Participatory Approach to Examine Risk and Protective Factors for Farmworkers’ Health &amp; Well-Being
This presentation shares findings from an ongoing 5-year community-based research project in Oregon that examines workplace risk and protective factors for Latino/Hispanic farmworkers, with a focus on the impact of new farmworker overtime legislation. Attendees will learn about the study’s methodological approach, key qualitative and quantitative findings, and the importance of addressing economic stressors and leveraging protective factors to support farmworker wellbeing.</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Friday, May 23, 2025 9:11 PM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=thumbsup><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=👍 src=media-ose/1f44d-27259.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>3</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1377679986957226126 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1377679986957226126><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, May 29, 2025 6:08 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1377679986957226126>5/29/2025 6:08 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>New gender just dropped
<a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreeFem%2B%2B">https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreeFem%2B%2B</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(234,236,240,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreeFem%2B%2B><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">FreeFem++</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">FreeFem++ is a programming language and a software focused on solving partial differential equations using the finite element method. FreeFem++ is written in C++ and developed and maintained by Universit&#233; Pierre et Marie Curie and Laboratoire Jacques-Louis Lions. It runs on Linux, Solaris, macOS and Microsoft Windows systems. FreeFem++ is free ...</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/FreeFEM%252B%252B_CS_Example_-_Dirichlet-BFDCC.png> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/FreeFEM%252B%252B_CS_Example_-_Dirichlet-BFDCC.png alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=heart><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=❤️ src=media-ose/2764-A3D25.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>2</span></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1377680125193355315 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1377680125193355315><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, May 29, 2025 6:08 PM">6:08 PM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>(Was looking for an OS Alternative to AnyLogic and i saw the name and just had to shitpost about it :3 )</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1377680262258888867 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1377680262258888867><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/e775cea03b7bc7e06e54f5991c33950d-0D9E7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=tvtrepair_93171 data-user-id=1286745085878341683>IRC Enthusiast</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, May 29, 2025 6:09 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1377680262258888867>5/29/2025 6:09 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>you can forcefem right from the terminal with sudo rm -rf masc</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=rofl><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=🤣 src=media-ose/1f923-5854E.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>3</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1377680263894798417 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1377680263894798417><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/def5e0a7ff07e73d477a87df10a3dc4f-BFBB1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(153,45,34) title=Arcane#7800 data-user-id=437808476106784770>Arcane</span> <span class=chatlog__author-tag>BOT</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, May 29, 2025 6:09 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1377680263894798417>5/29/2025 6:09 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="tvtrepair_93171">@IRC Enthusiast</span> has reached level <strong>1</strong>. GG!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1378714938385891489 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1378714938385891489><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze>Eric Lotze</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1377679986957226126')"> New gender just dropped
<a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreeFem%2B%2B">https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreeFem%2B%2B</a> </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, June 1, 2025 2:40 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1378714938385891489>6/1/2025 2:40 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I actually have this on my computer and kept forgetting what it was for ^.^</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1378768242759303168 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1378768242759303168><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze>Eric Lotze</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1377680125193355315')"> (Was looking for an OS Alternative to AnyLogic and i saw the name and just had to shitpost about it :3 ) </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=303adastra data-user-id=457390086879969280>303adastra</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, June 1, 2025 6:12 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1378768242759303168>6/1/2025 6:12 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>How are you with PDE&#39;s and FEM?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1378804525305040986 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1378804525305040986><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze>Eric Lotze</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1377679986957226126')"> New gender just dropped
<a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreeFem%2B%2B">https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreeFem%2B%2B</a> </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=303adastra data-user-id=457390086879969280>303adastra</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, June 1, 2025 8:36 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1378804525305040986>6/1/2025 8:36 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I need to model transient conduction, convection, and radiation for designing a passive solar rooftop heating/cooling system for passive heating during the winter and cooling during the summer for a greenhouse, worm bin, and possibly house, and have been hitting the limits of what the idealized examples from my heat transfer textbooks can offer. So, I&#39;d be curious how well FreeFEM can support such a use case</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Sunday, June 1, 2025 9:02 PM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=eyes><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=👀 src=media-ose/1f440-6C64D.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>2</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1378819751769280542 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1378819751769280542><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=303adastra data-user-id=457390086879969280>303adastra</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, June 1, 2025 9:37 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1378819751769280542>6/1/2025 9:37 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>(After some perusing) it looks like FEniCS is another PDE solver using FEM. FreeFEM looks like it&#39;s more declarative and faster, but I might experiment w/ FEniCS first, as it&#39;s available as a python package (which my dev environment is already configured for) <a href="https://fenicsproject.org/">https://fenicsproject.org/</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(85,85,85,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://fenicsproject.org/"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">FEniCS</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Open-source finite element library</div></div></div></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=thumbsup><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=👍 src=media-ose/1f44d-27259.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1378902786984640562 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1378902786984640562><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, June 2, 2025 3:07 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1378902786984640562>6/2/2025 3:07 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I don’t know much about it at all.
I was looking into some proprietary program that basically gave you a SCADA for a simulated -plant (Power plant, wastewater treatment plant, refinery etc)
So <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention">#bio-petrochemistry</span> nerd me was like <em>oooooh</em> was trying to see if there was anything OS that did do something similar.</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1378902969432412220 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1378902969432412220><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, June 2, 2025 3:08 AM">3:08 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I was kind of intrigued by OpenFOAM etc a while back but i haven’t properly delved into any of these software packages at all.</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1378903013028266078 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1378903013028266078><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Monday, June 2, 2025 3:08 AM">3:08 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Good luck and that sounds like a neat project!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1378921618633654332 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1378921618633654332><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze>Eric Lotze</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1378902969432412220')"> I was kind of intrigued by OpenFOAM etc a while back but i haven’t properly delved into any of these software packages at all. </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=303adastra data-user-id=457390086879969280>303adastra</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, June 2, 2025 4:22 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1378921618633654332>6/2/2025 4:22 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Iiuc, openfoam is better suited for CFD. We used it for computing drag coefficients circa 2016 for a hyperloop project</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1378921883746963516 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1378921883746963516><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze>Eric Lotze</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1378903013028266078')"> Good luck and that sounds like a neat project! </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=303adastra data-user-id=457390086879969280>303adastra</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, June 2, 2025 4:23 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1378921883746963516>6/2/2025 4:23 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Thanks, I&#39;ll keep the server posted for anyone interested. Do we have a passive heating cooling related channel? Maybe I&#39;ll start a thread</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1378927357837967541 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1378927357837967541><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=303adastra>303adastra</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1378921883746963516')"> Thanks, I&#39;ll keep the server posted for anyone interested. Do we have a passive heating cooling related channel? Maybe I&#39;ll start a thread </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=303adastra data-user-id=457390086879969280>303adastra</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Monday, June 2, 2025 4:45 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1378927357837967541>6/2/2025 4:45 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I suppose I can post it in <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention">#permaculture</span> ; goes with the whole &quot;capture and store energy&quot; principle</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1379568586305175623 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1379568586305175623><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/8242935291434d7f907f31028888f962-E62F3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=goldfishlaser data-user-id=526171283444989954>goldfishlaser#1337</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, June 3, 2025 11:13 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1379568586305175623>6/3/2025 11:13 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Not a bad amount of updoots for a fringe part of the internet and only a few days/hours</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-38CDD.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-38CDD.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (160.88 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=arrow_up><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=⬆️ src=media-ose/2b06-8CE23.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>3</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1379568691745918996 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1379568691745918996><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/a59bdf31ad3906622763d3c59fff87ef-058D1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=saphnich data-user-id=209482834379931658>Alexa</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Tuesday, June 3, 2025 11:13 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1379568691745918996>6/3/2025 11:13 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Nice doots bro <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1379891582823563315 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1379891582823563315><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/490b20cb14508152c66245d6337ccbce-54BC2.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=brent050630_76945 data-user-id=1361100903238598817>Among Fascists</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, June 4, 2025 8:36 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1379891582823563315>6/4/2025 8:36 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>finally, another few hundreds hours screen time less doing CAD
image to 3D, respectable results
<a href="https://www.adamcad.com/#product-demo">https://www.adamcad.com/#product-demo</a>
just tried,...
that will help with modding, fixing old machines as well - i hope the do image to circuit some day too <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1379939632334114922 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1379939632334114922><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, June 4, 2025 11:47 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1379939632334114922>6/4/2025 11:47 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Interesting and pretty nuanced take on the impacts of using AI (mainly in regards to energy use/climate impact, as that is his area of training, although a BIT of properly pointed out editorializing at the end)
<a href="https://youtu.be/5sFBySzNIX0?si=eV51DgRYW30lZVBF">https://youtu.be/5sFBySzNIX0?si=eV51DgRYW30lZVBF</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRRr_xrOm66qaigIbwFLvbQ><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Simon Clark</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sFBySzNIX0"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Should I feel guilty using AI?</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/5sFBySzNIX0 width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1379942202389696705 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1379942202389696705><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/38d5d2e37cc203fb164cfc0f3c74c4b5-09A30.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze>Eric Lotze</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1379939632334114922')"> Interesting and pretty nuanced take on the impacts of using AI (mainly in regards to energy use/climate impact, as that is his area of training, although a BIT of properly pointed out editorializing at the end)
<a href="https://youtu.be/5sFBySzNIX0?si=eV51DgRYW30lZVBF">https://youtu.be/5sFBySzNIX0?si=eV51DgRYW30lZVBF</a> </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=303adastra data-user-id=457390086879969280>303adastra</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Wednesday, June 4, 2025 11:57 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1379942202389696705>6/4/2025 11:57 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>That&#39;s a lot of digital cow farts - which I guess (thanks to <span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="goldfishlaser">@goldfishlaser#1337</span>) is on brand with the fact that all AI logos look like buttholes <a href="https://youtu.be/vEckXfvmj1o">https://youtu.be/vEckXfvmj1o</a></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Wednesday, June 4, 2025 11:59 PM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPyeggNvRlXuBr4nuMRYVzA><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Audie Lagarra</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEckXfvmj1o"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Smash or Pass: AI Logos</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/vEckXfvmj1o width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=high_brightness><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=🔆 src=media-ose/1f506-55112.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1380029454562099202 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1380029454562099202><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/8242935291434d7f907f31028888f962-E62F3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze>Eric Lotze</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1379939632334114922')"> Interesting and pretty nuanced take on the impacts of using AI (mainly in regards to energy use/climate impact, as that is his area of training, although a BIT of properly pointed out editorializing at the end)
<a href="https://youtu.be/5sFBySzNIX0?si=eV51DgRYW30lZVBF">https://youtu.be/5sFBySzNIX0?si=eV51DgRYW30lZVBF</a> </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=goldfishlaser data-user-id=526171283444989954>goldfishlaser#1337</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, June 5, 2025 5:44 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1380029454562099202>6/5/2025 5:44 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Yep, I&#39;ve watched this one. I do take a similar reasoning for why my personal use of trained models is not something to worry myself too much about. If I recall correctly, his take is similar to mine - that we must restrain companies from wreaking ecological havoc on communities in their quest to provide more computation for $$ (i.e. don&#39;t let them just build data centers with abandon - protect communites from their externalized costs - and try to incentivise the growth of resource-sparing data center technologies above less resource-sparing (but cheaper) ones).</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Thursday, June 5, 2025 6:57 AM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1380030062509686854 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1380030062509686854><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, June 5, 2025 5:46 AM">5:46 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I think professionals in all forms of computing, AI or not, need to start being accountable in some way for energy usage. As part of the ethics taught to new developers, we need to teach about respecting resource consumption and the importance of tracking and moderating it. Not everyone will agree entirely, but critical thinking about the issue is what&#39;s important.
As a matter of principle, it seems to me that we want to avoid replacing conventional computing operations with more expensive AI versions when it adds negligible or 0 value... And also, shall we continue to just let the advertising industry go amok like this? What, these companies can just exponentially increase the number of ads they show us per value &quot;free services&quot; provided to us, using everyone&#39;s digital footprint to manipulate everyone at huge computational (energy) cost, AND they can pollute our water and air freely to do it with no regulation for the privilege?</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Thursday, June 5, 2025 6:04 AM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1380030232290918531 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1380030232290918531><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, June 5, 2025 5:47 AM">5:47 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>However, legislation doesn&#39;t look to be going in that direction, sadly.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1380057140437450752 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1380057140437450752><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/490b20cb14508152c66245d6337ccbce-54BC2.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=brent050630_76945 data-user-id=1361100903238598817>Among Fascists</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, June 5, 2025 7:34 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1380057140437450752>6/5/2025 7:34 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>sad sad, I suppose thats the outcome treating OS as fashion, or confusing a project with &#39;a company&#39;, no dialog, no transparency but &#39;we know whats best&#39;, RIP :<a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44175773">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44175773</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,102,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><div class=chatlog__embed-author>diggan</div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44175773"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Precious Plastic is in trouble</div></a></div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-footer><img class=chatlog__embed-footer-icon src=media-ose/y18-27627.gif alt="Footer icon" loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__embed-footer-text> Hacker News • 6/4/2025 1:11 AM </span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1380057141573845032 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1380057141573845032><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/def5e0a7ff07e73d477a87df10a3dc4f-BFBB1.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(153,45,34) title=Arcane#7800 data-user-id=437808476106784770>Arcane</span> <span class=chatlog__author-tag>BOT</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, June 5, 2025 7:34 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1380057141573845032>6/5/2025 7:34 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="brent050630_76945">@Among Fascists</span> has reached level <strong>2</strong>. GG!</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1380069562451624029 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1380069562451624029><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/8242935291434d7f907f31028888f962-E62F3.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(149,165,166) title=goldfishlaser data-user-id=526171283444989954>goldfishlaser#1337</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, June 5, 2025 8:23 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1380069562451624029>6/5/2025 8:23 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>this song (and the rest of the musical project its from) express my feelings on the above conversation lol
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3v-0NRdPYE\">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3v-0NRdPYE\</a></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Thursday, June 5, 2025 8:32 AM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEtR1hAjm4M2yZxuk8-S8JA><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Big Data</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3v-0NRdPYE"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Big Data - &quot;Get Some Freedom (feat. Dragonette)&quot; [LYRIC VIDEO]</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/T3v-0NRdPYE width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1380071010941927565 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1380071010941927565><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, June 5, 2025 8:29 AM">8:29 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>my smash or pass lmao but if I was tipsy maybe the first 3 in pass would also move up into smash lol
I&#39;ve watched a few more of this person&#39;s videos after this one, she&#39;s got an amusing schtick...</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Thursday, June 5, 2025 8:33 AM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/image-FE494.png> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/image-FE494.png alt="Image attachment" title="Image: image.png (332.14 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1380085070693531678 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1380085070693531678><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/490b20cb14508152c66245d6337ccbce-54BC2.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src=media-ose/490b20cb14508152c66245d6337ccbce-54BC2.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=brent050630_76945>Among Fascists</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1380057140437450752')"> sad sad, I suppose thats the outcome treating OS as fashion, or confusing a project with &#39;a company&#39;, no dialog, no transparency but &#39;we know whats best&#39;, RIP :<a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44175773">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44175773</a> </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=brent050630_76945 data-user-id=1361100903238598817>Among Fascists</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, June 5, 2025 9:25 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1380085070693531678>6/5/2025 9:25 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>btw. its not that bad as they say in the comments, once you strip all the hype, recycling, Opensource, ... - you&#39;re left with a beautiful trade - there&#39;s still space, and need for smart/open systems, running somewhere in the basement, unattented, producing diving glasses, lighters, ... raw stock - designs &amp; systems are still to be invented <img
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src="media-ose/1f642-83E8A.svg"></span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Thursday, June 5, 2025 9:25 AM">(edited)</span></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/DSC02931-C4682.JPG> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/DSC02931-C4682.JPG alt="Image attachment" title="Image: DSC02931.JPG (312.99 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/spc-stacked-test-C9FF6.jpg> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/spc-stacked-test-C9FF6.jpg alt="Image attachment" title="Image: spc-stacked-test.jpg (192.6 KB)" loading=lazy> </a></div><div class=chatlog__attachment><a href=media-ose/table420-D9E23.jpg> <img class=chatlog__attachment-media src=media-ose/table420-D9E23.jpg alt="Image attachment" title="Image: table420.jpg (1.16 MB)" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1381346799272460390 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1381346799272460390><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/490b20cb14508152c66245d6337ccbce-54BC2.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=brent050630_76945 data-user-id=1361100903238598817>Among Fascists</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Sunday, June 8, 2025 8:59 PM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1381346799272460390>6/8/2025 8:59 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@1tkst2/video/7509701856176868654">https://www.tiktok.com/@1tkst2/video/7509701856176868654</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(254,44,85,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://www.tiktok.com/@1tkst2/video/7509701856176868654><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">TikTok &#183; 逆向协议</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">4559 likes, 89 comments. “Learn Reverse Engineering.”</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/o0jUIdiAwESdvBI3DJBAIfN5Rlog0BkEk8iyfF~tpl-773A5.jpeg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/o0jUIdiAwESdvBI3DJBAIfN5Rlog0BkEk8iyfF~tpl-773A5.jpeg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1385096357731369044 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1385096357731369044><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, June 19, 2025 5:18 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1385096357731369044>6/19/2025 5:18 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><em>don’t let me on Ebay lol</em></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1385096792697209024 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1385096792697209024><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, June 19, 2025 5:20 AM">5:20 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><em>after all</em> why <em>shouldn’t</em> i get a Lab Grade Wax Melter <img
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title="thinking"
src="media-ose/1f914-15707.svg"></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1385096804437065859 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1385096804437065859><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, June 19, 2025 5:20 AM">5:20 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://ebay.us/m/MjQ7ZO">https://ebay.us/m/MjQ7ZO</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href=https://ebay.us/m/MjQ7ZO><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Premiere Paraffin Wax Dispenser XH-4002 | eBay</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">We are unable to get it to function properly. Lab-Line Model 120 Benchtop Low Temperature Incubator. We provide a detailed report of the testing results. Step 5: Recertification. our high standards for accuracy, precision, and reliability.</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=media-ose/s-l400-9FB69.jpg> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=media-ose/s-l400-9FB69.jpg alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1385096869470015619 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1385096869470015619><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, June 19, 2025 5:20 AM">5:20 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><em>the candles must flow</em></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1385096908829102120 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1385096908829102120><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, June 19, 2025 5:20 AM">5:20 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><s>or hybrid rocket motors</s></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1385097062781157416 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1385097062781157416><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Thursday, June 19, 2025 5:21 AM">5:21 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Also fucking Mantle Lanterns but those are even harder to justify but they are so coooooooool</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1385109494501212160 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1385109494501212160><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/c9cfe319963eb619a7412175759ee00b-2F0D7.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=nohbdyahtall data-user-id=200423697616601088>Nohbdy Ahtall</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Thursday, June 19, 2025 6:10 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1385109494501212160>6/19/2025 6:10 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I am new to using Ebay as well &gt;.&gt; desire for thingies.</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=100><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=💯 src=media-ose/1f4af-4CFF5.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1385421691953479690 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1385421691953479690><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, June 20, 2025 2:51 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1385421691953479690>6/20/2025 2:51 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>That “vacation is almost over and j haven’t gotten nearly enough done” panic is already setting <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="💀"
title="skull"
src="media-ose/1f480-94524.svg"></span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=pensive><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=😔 src=media-ose/1f614-BB5EE.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1385433352609333329 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1385433352609333329><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src=media-ose/fe9d6d498e75ec6840f40990fd96d9fc-92B21.png alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(109,75,75) title=ericlotze data-user-id=695693240753586188>Eric Lotze</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp title="Friday, June 20, 2025 3:37 AM"><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1385433352609333329>6/20/2025 3:37 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://youtu.be/Vdy1Jup1jHA?si=0p5_nmD4FDADy3G8">https://youtu.be/Vdy1Jup1jHA?si=0p5_nmD4FDADy3G8</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9_p50tH3WmMslWRWKnM7dQ><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Adam Ragusea</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vdy1Jup1jHA"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">On food and immigration</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/Vdy1Jup1jHA width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1385433378307833916 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1385433378307833916><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, June 20, 2025 3:37 AM">3:37 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>THIS</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1385433563272314890 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1385433563272314890><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, June 20, 2025 3:38 AM">3:38 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>As much as i whine about that Landfill Job, it was right next to a Strawberry Field and THOSE workers are the fucking real ones.</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1385433669941858415 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1385433669941858415><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, June 20, 2025 3:38 AM">3:38 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Same with probably some of the Drywallers i worked with.</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1385433734043537449 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1385433734043537449><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="Friday, June 20, 2025 3:39 AM">3:39 AM</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Yet they still just did a job and were <em>people</em> <img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="😡"
title="rage"
src="media-ose/1f621-066B3.svg"> , not thugs. They had lives, families, etc.</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="Friday, June 20, 2025 3:40 AM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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